2026-06-19-Fri_Episode_2289_UFO_Disclosure_And_Spiritual_Warfare.timecode

[00:31.080 --> 00:36.480]  As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 19th of June, year of our Lord 2026.
[00:36.480 --> 00:43.280]  Well, as I said, it is Friday and although we have a new program, Never Before Aired
[00:43.280 --> 00:48.880]  Interviews, we're going to take the day to look at some broader issues and get a little
[00:48.880 --> 00:51.520]  further back away from the current events.
[00:51.520 --> 00:54.120]  So we can see what's really happening with the forest.
[00:54.120 --> 01:00.080]  Our first guest has written a book and has a documentary coming out, UFOs and God.
[01:00.080 --> 01:04.480]  And so we're going to talk about the UFOs from a Christian perspective.
[01:04.480 --> 01:05.480]  What should we know?
[01:05.480 --> 01:07.160]  How should we deal with this?
[01:07.160 --> 01:11.320]  Is this going to be a threat to Christian faith like evolution was?
[01:11.320 --> 01:15.680]  Are we going to get ahead of this or are we going to be forever reacting to it?
[01:15.680 --> 01:20.440]  And we're also going to be joined by Eric Peters and especially, you know, when we talk
[01:20.440 --> 01:24.600]  about mobility, what do you do when government thinks that it's God?
[01:24.600 --> 01:26.760]  That's what Eric is always focused on.
[01:26.760 --> 01:30.440]  And so we've got some great topics coming up, some great guests.
[01:30.440 --> 01:32.240]  I think you're really going to enjoy these interviews.
[01:32.240 --> 01:33.240]  So stick around.
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[03:21.180 --> 03:25.760]  So without further delay, let's go to our first interview about UFOs and God.
[03:25.760 --> 03:32.920]  I think you're going to find this fascinating and very important and a much more important
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[05:36.200 --> 05:41.380]  Well, our guest who's joining us now has been ahead of the curve.
[05:41.380 --> 05:46.700]  He started this book five years ago, and it is a very hot topic right now, UFOs and
[05:46.700 --> 05:47.700]  God.
[05:47.700 --> 05:53.460]  He was the head of Spielberg who just came out, and we're going to talk about that.
[05:53.460 --> 05:54.460]  What is really behind this?
[05:54.460 --> 05:56.660]  I mean, this is something that's not just new.
[05:56.660 --> 06:01.820]  I mean, I remember as a child, The Day of the Earth Stood Still, I loved that movie,
[06:01.820 --> 06:06.740]  but there were a lot of theological implications in that particular film and many others as
[06:06.740 --> 06:07.740]  well.
[06:08.060 --> 06:13.460]  See, Clark's Childhood Sin, boy, that is loaded with references to Christianity, but Spielberg
[06:13.460 --> 06:17.540]  kind of threw down the gauntlet, and so has the Pentagon in the last week or so.
[06:17.540 --> 06:20.140]  So joining us now is Derek Warfeld.
[06:20.140 --> 06:24.820]  He wrote a book called UFOs and God, and we're going to talk about that, the challenge to
[06:24.820 --> 06:28.380]  our belief, because that's what Steven Spielberg sees it as.
[06:28.380 --> 06:34.740]  You know, Derek, I've seen just in the last few days, last week or so, another Pentagon
[06:34.780 --> 06:40.780]  release where they're talking about spinning discs, glowing orbs, and a potato-shaped thing.
[06:40.780 --> 06:42.780]  I thought, was that Sputnik?
[06:42.780 --> 06:48.340]  I don't know what the potato-shaped thing was, but again, this is, you know, we're looking
[06:48.340 --> 06:53.860]  at this, how much of it is something like a Sputnik, and how much of it is something
[06:53.860 --> 06:55.700]  that is supernatural.
[06:55.700 --> 06:59.020]  I'd like to get your take on this, since you've been thinking about this for quite some time.
[06:59.020 --> 07:04.340]  Tell us a little bit, first, let's talk about Hollywood's influence on this.
[07:04.340 --> 07:08.100]  Before we get into the Pentagon, and what the government would like to do with this.
[07:08.100 --> 07:09.940]  Hollywood's been pushing on this for a very long time.
[07:09.940 --> 07:12.940]  I mean, the day of the Earth is still, that goes back to the 1950s.
[07:12.940 --> 07:16.540]  Well, as a writer, I worked there in Hollywood for 40 years.
[07:16.540 --> 07:21.660]  I've produced eight feature films, a lot of shorts, worked on other ones as well.
[07:21.660 --> 07:25.660]  I mean, you know, just, I mean, as a writer, you're just looking for something new, something
[07:25.660 --> 07:27.740]  different that would be fun to talk about.
[07:27.740 --> 07:28.980]  And usually it's just fiction.
[07:28.980 --> 07:31.900]  It's just saying, what if?
[07:31.940 --> 07:35.500]  I think a lot of the films that are made are basically just writers saying, well, what
[07:35.500 --> 07:36.980]  if, what if this happened?
[07:36.980 --> 07:37.980]  What if that happened?
[07:37.980 --> 07:38.980]  Let's try this.
[07:38.980 --> 07:40.180]  And they're not that serious about it.
[07:40.180 --> 07:45.420]  But this particular film, Declosure Day, it seems like he's trying to cross fiction here
[07:45.420 --> 07:46.420]  with reality.
[07:46.420 --> 07:47.420]  Yes.
[07:47.420 --> 07:51.620]  And basically say that there are these ships.
[07:51.620 --> 07:59.100]  And you know, myself, in the 1990s, early 90s, I just thought it was all just a bunch
[07:59.100 --> 08:00.100]  of bunk myself.
[08:00.100 --> 08:06.220]  But as I began to just look and see, there's so many cases of people seeing these ships,
[08:06.220 --> 08:12.340]  so many people having been involved in meeting these beings that I just couldn't dismiss
[08:12.340 --> 08:13.340]  it all.
[08:13.340 --> 08:17.860]  And as a believer, I didn't have a category in my faith for this.
[08:17.860 --> 08:22.780]  And so I just began to investigate, picked up a book by John Ankerberg and John Weldon.
[08:22.780 --> 08:28.940]  And as I read it, it was like, well, of course, this is the obvious answer to this whole thing.
[08:28.980 --> 08:33.900]  The thing is, if you look, every major religion, every simple nation all throughout history,
[08:33.900 --> 08:42.620]  maybe up till the 1900s, has believed there's a supernatural world around us, ghosts, poltergeists,
[08:42.620 --> 08:48.940]  ancient Near Eastern gods, ancient Egyptian gods, Arabic jinn, fairies, Rothman of West
[08:48.940 --> 08:54.220]  Virginia, whatever, that there's something that is not within the three dimensional time
[08:54.220 --> 08:58.820]  and space that we live in, that impinges on us.
[08:58.900 --> 09:04.420]  And the only real big difference about this one is they're coming in flying saucers.
[09:04.420 --> 09:09.100]  You know, I mean, let me take a step back and say where I think this comes from.
[09:09.100 --> 09:14.180]  I believe God did create another species besides human beings.
[09:14.180 --> 09:19.900]  For lack of a better word, I'm going to use the word angels, okay, to do his tasks.
[09:19.900 --> 09:24.220]  And that's clear that every, almost every major religion accepts that.
[09:24.220 --> 09:29.220]  And at a certain point, one third of those angels split off and decided to war against
[09:29.220 --> 09:34.100]  God and try to take over God, which was kind of foolish, but that's what they did.
[09:34.100 --> 09:38.660]  And ever since, there's been this invisible war going throughout all of history.
[09:38.660 --> 09:43.860]  And if I had time, I could document it all, and I do in the book.
[09:43.860 --> 09:48.500]  And so their goal, they can't obviously fight against the creator who's almighty, but they
[09:48.580 --> 09:53.780]  do fight against us and the other fallen other angels.
[09:53.780 --> 10:01.980]  And I think the problem is most people have this concept of fallen angels or demons or
[10:01.980 --> 10:06.100]  watchers, whatever you want to call them, as kind of stupid bumbling things.
[10:06.100 --> 10:10.820]  You know, we have these Renaissance art and pictures of little fat men in red body suits
[10:10.820 --> 10:12.540]  with a pitchfork.
[10:12.620 --> 10:18.780]  They were created by God to be very, very intelligent, very powerful beings.
[10:18.780 --> 10:21.140]  And anything we can do, they can do much better.
[10:21.140 --> 10:26.540]  So the fact that they have flying saucers that can run circles around our best fighter
[10:26.540 --> 10:29.780]  jets is not a surprise.
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[11:18.860 --> 11:24.820]  You know, the answer people are trying to give is their intergalactic visitors.
[11:24.820 --> 11:30.300]  And we talked to a astrophysicist who basically just shot that right down.
[11:30.300 --> 11:32.180]  There's three reasons why it can't be that.
[11:32.180 --> 11:37.420]  First reason is Earth is just too unique a planet.
[11:37.420 --> 11:39.620]  They keep saying, well, there's billions of planets like Earth.
[11:39.620 --> 11:41.180]  No, they're not.
[11:41.180 --> 11:47.060]  There's 14 constants and minimum highly tuned that make life, advanced life on Earth
[11:47.060 --> 11:51.220]  possible. For example, the tilt of the Earth has to be exactly a certain thing.
[11:51.340 --> 11:56.140]  The moon, the certain size, the certain distance, the certain rotation, the asteroid belt has
[11:56.140 --> 11:57.660]  to be just like this.
[11:57.660 --> 12:03.100]  So you can find other planets out there, but they're not exactly like if they won't support
[12:03.100 --> 12:05.060]  life like Earth.
[12:05.060 --> 12:08.180]  Secondly, the universe is too big.
[12:08.180 --> 12:11.620]  It's 100 billion light years wide.
[12:11.620 --> 12:15.420]  The distance light travels in a year times 100 billion.
[12:15.420 --> 12:20.460]  Now suppose there is another planet, very rare like Earth, but it's 100 billion light
[12:20.460 --> 12:21.660]  years away.
[12:21.660 --> 12:23.420]  We're never going to know about them.
[12:23.420 --> 12:28.460]  And just I did the calculation just just to get to the closest star, which is four point
[12:28.460 --> 12:34.220]  three light years away, which is twenty five trillion miles away.
[12:34.220 --> 12:39.180]  Take the Voyager one, which we launched in the 1970s, going thirty eight thousand miles
[12:39.180 --> 12:43.340]  an hour. You know how long it would take to get to Alpha Centauri?
[12:43.340 --> 12:45.620]  Seventy five thousand years.
[12:45.620 --> 12:49.300]  And even if they had a technology goes ten times that fast, it would take seven point
[12:49.340 --> 12:53.180]  five thousand years and nothing can go faster than the speed of light.
[12:53.180 --> 12:55.180]  In fact, nothing can really go the speed of light.
[12:55.180 --> 12:59.540]  The whole thing with Star Trek of Warp Nine is just a fiction.
[12:59.540 --> 13:03.900]  And even if we could go one tenth the speed of light.
[13:03.900 --> 13:06.620]  There's space dust out there.
[13:06.620 --> 13:10.140]  It would literally tear any ship we sent apart.
[13:10.140 --> 13:15.460]  And the last thing is and mathematicians have been.
[13:15.500 --> 13:19.620]  Poking biologists on the shoulder for like decades now and saying, hey,
[13:19.620 --> 13:22.580]  you're not going to get life evolving by chance.
[13:22.580 --> 13:25.100]  There has to be some other input.
[13:25.100 --> 13:30.380]  The people with reason to believe with who Ross Astrophysicist ran a calculation,
[13:30.380 --> 13:35.100]  they said, just for a simple bacterium.
[13:35.100 --> 13:40.740]  The odds are ten to the five hundred and fifty six power to one.
[13:40.780 --> 13:46.740]  That's ten followed by five hundred and fifty six zeros to one.
[13:46.740 --> 13:51.180]  Just by a point of comparison, the California State lottery is like ten to
[13:51.180 --> 13:53.020]  the ninth power to one.
[13:53.020 --> 13:56.380]  I mean, you add those three things up and it's impossible.
[13:56.380 --> 14:01.860]  In other words, they do not operate by our laws of physics, nor our three
[14:01.860 --> 14:05.620]  dimension, one dimension time synonym.
[14:05.620 --> 14:10.500]  They come from a different dimension and perhaps the most knowledgeable guy
[14:10.500 --> 14:13.140]  and secular guy in UFOs.
[14:13.140 --> 14:18.580]  A guy called Jacques Valle basically said he I think he was speaking to the UN
[14:18.580 --> 14:22.940]  when he said this, he says these beings are trying to engineer a belief that
[14:22.940 --> 14:26.860]  they're from our universe, but they're not.
[14:26.860 --> 14:29.580]  He says they're interdimensional beings.
[14:29.580 --> 14:31.740]  They come from another dimension.
[14:31.740 --> 14:33.940]  In other words, we live in three dimensions.
[14:33.940 --> 14:39.260]  If there's another dimension, literally they could be this close to you and you'd
[14:39.260 --> 14:41.860]  never see them.
[14:41.860 --> 14:46.660]  I mean, you look and you say, well, what is there any examples of that in history?
[14:46.660 --> 14:48.900]  Well, in the Bible there is.
[14:48.900 --> 14:52.740]  I mean, look at the angels that sang on the night of Christ's birth.
[14:52.740 --> 14:56.980]  The shepherds looked up in the hills and there's angels.
[14:56.980 --> 14:59.740]  And then a little bit later, they're gone.
[14:59.740 --> 15:01.900]  Well, where did they go to?
[15:01.900 --> 15:03.700]  They didn't go to Mars or Jupiter.
[15:04.140 --> 15:09.540]  They travel between the dimensions that we know and another dimension.
[15:09.540 --> 15:13.020]  There's countless examples in the Bible if you look closely.
[15:13.020 --> 15:15.540]  And, you know, and frankly.
[15:15.540 --> 15:18.340]  Well, look at Christ after his resurrection, right?
[15:18.340 --> 15:19.780]  He's physical. They can touch him.
[15:19.780 --> 15:22.180]  He can eat. He says, touch my wounds.
[15:22.180 --> 15:23.340]  And then he disappears.
[15:23.340 --> 15:25.700]  And then he reappears in another place.
[15:25.700 --> 15:28.740]  And the same thing with the angels who visited a lot.
[15:28.740 --> 15:30.820]  They kind of appear.
[15:30.820 --> 15:33.340]  They're there. They're gone. Where do they go?
[15:33.340 --> 15:35.500]  I mean, you know, there's another dimension.
[15:35.500 --> 15:40.780]  And frankly, almost all religions recognize this until the 20th century,
[15:40.780 --> 15:46.620]  when basically science, which is supposed to be a technology to test hypotheses,
[15:46.620 --> 15:50.340]  became itself a religion called scientism.
[15:50.340 --> 15:55.500]  And the basic premise is there's nothing outside the material universe.
[15:55.500 --> 15:57.740]  Well, that's an assumption, you know.
[15:58.420 --> 16:06.500]  So to me, the thing is that one third of these fallen angels have rebelled against God.
[16:06.500 --> 16:11.340]  And their goal is to hurt us, to destroy us, to overtake us,
[16:11.340 --> 16:14.100]  because they can't get back at God directly.
[16:14.100 --> 16:19.180]  And so when Steven Spielberg comes out with a film and basically says,
[16:19.180 --> 16:22.620]  oh, these aliens are our friends, they're our visitors.
[16:22.620 --> 16:26.020]  They're going to take us to the next level of human evolution.
[16:26.060 --> 16:28.100]  I mean, it's poppycock.
[16:28.100 --> 16:31.540]  I mean, they say that we hurt them.
[16:31.540 --> 16:35.020]  We hurt the aliens. We dissected them, whatever.
[16:35.020 --> 16:37.020]  I don't know if I'd never saw a case of that.
[16:37.020 --> 16:38.300]  Maybe there was one.
[16:38.300 --> 16:43.340]  But I can tell you, there's hundreds of cases where they have taken people,
[16:43.340 --> 16:47.140]  abducted them, was it to their spaceships, was it somewhere else,
[16:47.140 --> 16:51.180]  and run experiments on them and poked them and fooled around with their genitals.
[16:51.180 --> 16:53.540]  And they did. I mean, it's literally.
[16:53.580 --> 16:56.380]  And there's people who will test to this.
[16:56.380 --> 16:59.660]  Now, they don't want to because people call them nuts.
[16:59.660 --> 17:04.380]  But the point is, there's countless cases that the film doesn't mention that at all.
[17:04.380 --> 17:09.220]  It assumes that these people are just benign, wonderful people.
[17:09.220 --> 17:15.780]  And that's why a friend of mine, Wes, who was the director on their film,
[17:15.780 --> 17:19.500]  said it's the most dangerous film he's ever seen, you know.
[17:19.500 --> 17:22.740]  And, you know, it's interesting that when you look at the artwork for it,
[17:22.740 --> 17:26.700]  I mean, it's kind of like a cloud that looks like a traditional flying saucer thing.
[17:26.700 --> 17:28.300]  Well, with like a human eye in it.
[17:28.300 --> 17:31.540]  And it's like, well, that's not a coffee, is it?
[17:31.540 --> 17:36.820]  But as one person commented, it's like they're making these aliens in their own image
[17:36.820 --> 17:41.820]  because they're always about four to six feet tall, you know, and bilaterally symmetrical.
[17:41.820 --> 17:45.140]  And they kind of look like us, but some changes, you know.
[17:45.140 --> 17:48.460]  I think it's very fascinating how this is all evolved.
[17:48.460 --> 17:51.660]  And, of course, last Friday, I didn't go see the film.
[17:51.660 --> 17:57.300]  But I had an interview with a scientist, Michael Glenn, who worked for many years for TV.
[17:57.300 --> 18:00.660]  And he was a teacher of physics at Harvard.
[18:00.660 --> 18:07.540]  And he became a presenter for, he's a science editor actually for, I think it was ABC.
[18:07.540 --> 18:14.220]  But he came at all this because of, he's done a documentary called The Invisible Everywhere and a book as well.
[18:14.220 --> 18:20.540]  But he was looking at this from a perspective of almost worshiping science from a kid.
[18:20.580 --> 18:24.260]  And so he was all about, you know, you got to show me this before I'll believe it.
[18:24.260 --> 18:30.620]  But then he started actually doing science and looking at these strange things like quantum physics and stuff like that.
[18:30.620 --> 18:32.740]  And he says, now, this doesn't make any sense.
[18:32.740 --> 18:35.140]  This is very different.
[18:35.140 --> 18:39.620]  And he said he didn't really have any answers for it in terms of physics.
[18:39.620 --> 18:45.060]  But then he noticed how it kind of aligned with the Bible's worldview because his wife was a Christian.
[18:45.060 --> 18:47.780]  And I think that really is the case.
[18:47.820 --> 18:53.300]  There's not really these two different competing, contradicting philosophies.
[18:53.300 --> 18:55.780]  They meld together in a wonderful way.
[18:55.780 --> 18:58.740]  And that's what he discovered as he started looking at that personally.
[18:58.740 --> 19:03.580]  And this is somebody who knows a great deal about cosmology, about quantum physics and many other things.
[19:03.580 --> 19:06.260]  And he said that really is the only reasonable explanation.
[19:06.260 --> 19:11.860]  That's one of the reasons why I think you have so many cultures and religions have said, well, there are other beings out there.
[19:11.900 --> 19:19.180]  Because we look at creation and we understand that what we see had to be made by an intelligence that we don't see.
[19:19.180 --> 19:21.620]  And so then the question becomes, well, what is that?
[19:21.620 --> 19:23.820]  You know, can we find that? Has it spoken to us?
[19:23.820 --> 19:28.780]  Is it communicated to us? Is it God speaking to us through the Bible?
[19:28.780 --> 19:30.980]  That's the real issue, I think.
[19:30.980 --> 19:36.940]  I think the thing that's important to note, could God have created life on other planets?
[19:36.940 --> 19:39.340]  Of course he could. He's omnipotent.
[19:39.340 --> 19:41.300]  But did he?
[19:41.780 --> 19:48.300]  The Bible tells us, it says that there's everything there for life and knowledge that we need to know.
[19:48.300 --> 19:50.340]  So why wouldn't he have told us?
[20:11.300 --> 20:16.580]  Houston, the football season is already here, but a big trailer accident isn't a game.
[20:16.580 --> 20:21.420]  Football players can shoot from the field, but there's nothing false about your injuries.
[20:21.420 --> 20:25.860]  Call 281-888-888.
[20:25.860 --> 20:27.300]  And I think there is.
[20:27.300 --> 20:31.620]  And the thing is, what is the danger about that?
[20:31.660 --> 20:36.100]  Call 281-888-888.
[20:36.100 --> 20:37.300]  And I think there is.
[20:37.300 --> 20:41.980]  And the thing is, what is the danger about these beings?
[20:41.980 --> 20:46.260]  I said, well, there's danger because they say, we don't hurt you, and then they hurt you.
[20:46.260 --> 20:53.380]  But there have been people who've communicated with these beings, OK?
[20:53.380 --> 20:58.260]  There's a guy called Jack Sparks, who's been abducted many times, Travis Walton.
[20:58.260 --> 20:59.060]  What is it?
[20:59.060 --> 21:00.020]  Whitley Strieber.
[21:00.020 --> 21:01.180]  There's other people.
[21:01.780 --> 21:07.700]  Several of the people in our film, basically, had that thing.
[21:07.700 --> 21:10.740]  And I was very interested, well, what's their doctrine?
[21:10.740 --> 21:12.260]  What are they teaching?
[21:12.260 --> 21:14.380]  And you know what they teach?
[21:14.380 --> 21:17.940]  They completely deny everything in Christianity.
[21:17.940 --> 21:21.620]  They deny that there's a personal God.
[21:21.620 --> 21:24.020]  There's a God force, but not a personal God.
[21:24.020 --> 21:26.340]  And if there's not a personal God, he can't be sinned against.
[21:26.340 --> 21:28.940]  If he can't be sinned against, there's no judgment.
[21:28.980 --> 21:31.660]  And therefore, there's no need for a savior like Jesus.
[21:31.660 --> 21:35.340]  And Jesus is just an ascended guru.
[21:35.340 --> 21:37.100]  And so you get this thing.
[21:37.100 --> 21:40.740]  And the answer to life is reincarnation.
[21:40.740 --> 21:46.020]  I mean, this sounds to me very much like New Age religion, which they might have created
[21:46.020 --> 21:48.380]  themselves working with humans.
[21:48.380 --> 21:53.980]  In other words, basically, the apostle Paul says in one of his letters, if we, even if
[21:53.980 --> 22:01.500]  we or an angel come to you and preach a different gospel, let him be accursed.
[22:01.500 --> 22:12.580]  You know, this is very much they are pushing a doctrine, a philosophy, which is very dangerous.
[22:12.580 --> 22:18.660]  And when a film like Disclosure Day comes out and basically the bad guys are the humans,
[22:18.660 --> 22:23.580]  because at one point in 1973, there was some mistreatment of these aliens.
[22:23.580 --> 22:28.180]  And the fact that the real bad guys are the government because they haven't told us about
[22:28.180 --> 22:34.500]  this, when in fact, the real bad guys and from the hundreds of examples I've seen are
[22:34.500 --> 22:38.060]  the aliens themselves who try to hurt us.
[22:38.060 --> 22:42.100]  Now, they're not Independence Day where they're coming in a big mothership and they're blowing
[22:42.100 --> 22:43.100]  things up.
[22:44.100 --> 22:48.700]  But you look in the Bible at how Satan works.
[22:48.700 --> 22:52.100]  I mean, the book of Job is a perfect example.
[22:52.100 --> 22:58.900]  God said to Satan, Lucifer, you know, go tempt Job.
[22:58.900 --> 23:03.940]  And there's all kinds of things that these fallen angels do.
[23:03.940 --> 23:10.740]  They create fire, they create wind and destroy houses, they put in people's minds to raid
[23:10.740 --> 23:12.700]  and destroy Job's children.
[23:12.700 --> 23:19.620]  I mean, basically, they are very intelligent, very powerful beings, and it's only the grace
[23:19.620 --> 23:22.740]  of God that holds them back in this present age.
[23:22.740 --> 23:28.300]  And I believe in the future, you know, the Bible says the one who restrains will be withdrawn.
[23:28.300 --> 23:32.700]  And at that point, you know, these beings will have a free heyday.
[23:32.700 --> 23:39.060]  And I don't like to even call them gray aliens as much as I do evil spirits, because that's
[23:39.060 --> 23:42.860]  who they've normally presented at throughout all of history.
[23:42.860 --> 23:48.620]  Now, you know, but you're saying, well, there's a lot of questions I have.
[23:48.620 --> 23:53.780]  And that's why I wrote a 350-page book, because to try to answer all those questions and say,
[23:53.780 --> 23:55.140]  well, how do you explain this?
[23:55.140 --> 23:56.980]  How do you explain that?
[23:56.980 --> 24:02.020]  And I think the answers the Bible gives are much more logical than the ones you see on
[24:02.020 --> 24:06.140]  ancient aliens or Eric von Deineken.
[24:06.140 --> 24:11.500]  Because one of the guys we interviewed said, you know, he looked down at the Nazca lines
[24:11.500 --> 24:14.060]  and he said, well, maybe they're runways.
[24:14.060 --> 24:19.940]  And I'm thinking he said directly, he said, if you could travel across the galaxies in
[24:19.940 --> 24:23.180]  a little ship, do you really need runways?
[24:23.180 --> 24:28.260]  You know, I mean, it was just it's just, you know, people desperately trying to grab on
[24:28.260 --> 24:34.820]  because they want to believe that this material universe is all there is.
[24:34.820 --> 24:41.620]  And if they didn't come from other planets, well, then maybe that whole theory just completely
[24:41.620 --> 24:42.620]  collapses.
[24:42.620 --> 24:43.620]  Yes.
[24:43.620 --> 24:46.860]  And if they're evil, then there's a real danger there.
[24:46.860 --> 24:50.260]  And it's not, as I say, evil in terms of Independence Day where the big ship and they're
[24:50.260 --> 24:51.380]  blowing things away.
[24:51.380 --> 24:57.620]  It's evil in terms of individually getting to people, tempting people.
[24:57.620 --> 25:01.660]  You know, like you're talking about with Job, you know, that that is a really interesting
[25:02.500 --> 25:09.260]  Because when you see that when he's given license to attack Job, as you pointed out,
[25:09.260 --> 25:13.820]  he can modify the way he can use the weather, but he can also manipulate people.
[25:13.820 --> 25:16.420]  You know, he had these multiple attacks.
[25:16.420 --> 25:19.980]  Some of them were weather based, some of them extraordinary weather based.
[25:19.980 --> 25:21.800]  Some of them were extraordinary attacks.
[25:21.800 --> 25:26.660]  So he was motivating, somehow, individuals.
[25:26.660 --> 25:29.260]  And that is the way that Satan works.
[25:29.860 --> 25:33.020]  And when you look at these individuals that are into this New Age religion and they've
[25:33.020 --> 25:38.700]  got a different theology, worldview, all of that, did they have that before they were
[25:38.700 --> 25:39.700]  abducted?
[25:39.700 --> 25:48.020]  Well, usually what happens is there's a gateway, you know, like you saw the film The Exorcist
[25:48.020 --> 25:50.140]  fooling around with a Ouija board.
[25:50.140 --> 25:54.260]  When you're dealing with a cult, remember the film Beetlejuice, he says, say my name
[25:54.260 --> 25:55.260]  three times.
[25:55.260 --> 26:00.420]  And it's almost like you have to invite them in in some way by doing drugs.
[26:00.420 --> 26:06.380]  You open up your mind by doing transcendental meditation, which they claim is a technology.
[26:06.380 --> 26:07.380]  It's not.
[26:07.380 --> 26:08.380]  It's a religion.
[26:08.380 --> 26:10.380]  It's an offshoot of Hinduism.
[26:10.380 --> 26:15.220]  The initiation ceremony could tell you that you have to bring an offering you go before
[26:15.220 --> 26:16.660]  an ascended master.
[26:16.660 --> 26:19.180]  You have to give prayers or sing songs to them.
[26:19.180 --> 26:27.300]  I mean, it's and you're given at the end a mantra, which is a usually a Sanskrit word.
[26:27.300 --> 26:33.700]  And that Sanskrit word is usually the name of a Hindu god that you're supposed to repeat.
[26:33.700 --> 26:35.980]  You're opening yourself up.
[26:35.980 --> 26:40.180]  And when you open yourself, you're sort of giving permission for these other forces to
[26:40.180 --> 26:41.180]  come in.
[26:41.180 --> 26:43.020]  You know, it's interesting to me.
[26:43.020 --> 26:45.780]  People said, well, how do you communicate with these beings?
[26:45.780 --> 26:53.260]  And you have an ex-ER doctor called Greer, who basically takes people out and hilltops.
[26:53.260 --> 26:59.700]  And what they do is they have them do transcendental meditation, OK, which I said is basically
[26:59.700 --> 27:03.100]  a religion of offshoot of Hinduism.
[27:03.100 --> 27:07.500]  And you see these little dots of light circling around them.
[27:07.500 --> 27:11.440]  And I'm thinking, you're inviting demons into your life.
[27:11.440 --> 27:12.440]  This is crazy.
[27:12.440 --> 27:16.880]  But another thing, there were some people who wanted to communicate with a UFO offshore
[27:16.880 --> 27:17.880]  and they saw it offshore.
[27:17.880 --> 27:18.880]  They saw the lights.
[27:18.880 --> 27:20.400]  They didn't know how to communicate.
[27:20.400 --> 27:21.880]  You know what they used to communicate?
[27:21.880 --> 27:22.880]  What's that?
[27:22.880 --> 27:23.880]  A Ouija board.
[27:23.880 --> 27:24.880]  Oh, oh, there you go.
[27:24.880 --> 27:25.880]  Does that tell you?
[27:25.880 --> 27:28.680]  And there was basically you're using the tools of the occult.
[27:28.680 --> 27:30.760]  Does that tell you who these beings are?
[27:30.760 --> 27:31.760]  Yeah.
[27:31.760 --> 27:36.000]  And then Greer creates some kind of a quasi-religion, I mean, beyond the transcendental meditation,
[27:36.000 --> 27:40.120]  doesn't he have something that he gave a title to, I think?
[27:40.120 --> 27:41.640]  I think it's called S-4 or something.
[27:41.840 --> 27:42.840]  That was it.
[27:42.840 --> 27:43.840]  Yeah.
[27:43.840 --> 27:44.840]  He has a technology that he has.
[27:44.840 --> 27:48.120]  He says, we can't wait for governments to get us in touch with these beings.
[27:48.120 --> 27:49.320]  We need to get in touch with them ourselves.
[27:49.320 --> 27:52.240]  Yeah, I think it's CE-5 or something like that he called it.
[27:52.240 --> 27:53.240]  Yes, yes, yes.
[27:53.240 --> 27:56.240]  Yeah, it's a technology he invented to help people get in touch.
[27:56.240 --> 27:59.240]  But it's basically TM.
[27:59.240 --> 28:04.520]  And I mean, to me, this is incredibly dangerous.
[28:04.520 --> 28:10.640]  Just one line in the film that's repeated several times, supposedly from the aliens
[28:10.640 --> 28:17.640]  to themselves is, don't be afraid of what you don't know.
[28:17.640 --> 28:22.640]  Now, is that a good principle for life in general?
[28:22.640 --> 28:27.640]  If you're going to a car dealership that you don't know and you're not aware of the
[28:27.640 --> 28:32.640]  salesman, you don't know the car you're looking at, do you think you should be a little bit
[28:32.640 --> 28:35.640]  concerned that you might be taken advantage of?
[28:35.640 --> 28:41.000]  And if you run across some being that says they're from the Zeta Reticula Galaxy and
[28:41.000 --> 28:46.160]  they hurt you and they basically, you don't know where they're from or what their agenda
[28:46.160 --> 28:51.640]  is, do you think maybe it's not a bad idea to be a little concerned?
[28:51.640 --> 28:59.040]  And the idea in the film is you're just being xenophobic because they're space aliens.
[28:59.040 --> 29:02.520]  And I think at the end of the at the one point in the film, I will not give anything away,
[29:02.520 --> 29:08.520]  but they they have this one alien that speaks one word and he says he is like a wise old
[29:08.520 --> 29:09.520]  alien.
[29:09.520 --> 29:15.520]  And he says, listen, what to you, to what you're saying, what truth is.
[29:15.520 --> 29:17.520]  I mean, I question the Bible.
[29:17.520 --> 29:21.400]  I question every religion, but I can't question you.
[29:21.400 --> 29:25.040]  I mean, you know, I mean, I need to know, is there proof?
[29:25.040 --> 29:32.000]  And it's just, as I said, to me, it's like a propaganda puff piece for the aliens who
[29:32.000 --> 29:33.840]  couldn't have done a better job themselves.
[29:33.840 --> 29:34.840]  That's right.
[29:34.840 --> 29:43.200]  You know, so that's why I think it's it's a dangerous thing, you know, and it concerns
[29:43.200 --> 29:45.120]  me that young people are going to get caught up.
[29:45.120 --> 29:52.200]  I mean, they look at these ships that, you know, on radar can go forty five thousand
[29:52.200 --> 29:57.600]  to two hundred thousand miles per hour and then they disappear and you're going, wow,
[29:57.600 --> 29:58.960]  that's cool.
[29:59.960 --> 30:05.920]  If their technology is that great, they must have better answers to why we're here, who
[30:05.920 --> 30:14.640]  we are, you know, what's the purpose of life and and you know, then some dusty old Bible
[30:14.640 --> 30:17.760]  preacher back two thousand years ago named Jesus.
[30:17.760 --> 30:20.040]  I mean, why are we listening to that anymore?
[30:20.040 --> 30:25.920]  I mean, this is now this is the answer or Moses or, you know, any one of the the heroes
[30:25.920 --> 30:26.920]  of the Bible.
[30:26.920 --> 30:28.840]  I mean, why are we listening to them?
[30:28.840 --> 30:34.840]  And the amazing thing is, too, you look at, you know, I looked at all these supernatural
[30:34.840 --> 30:36.160]  events in the Bible.
[30:36.160 --> 30:42.560]  You look at the magicians in Egypt where Moses went to confront Pharaoh and the magicians
[30:42.560 --> 30:44.480]  took a rod.
[30:44.480 --> 30:47.480]  They threw it to the ground and it turned into a snake.
[30:47.480 --> 30:49.920]  Well, we can't do that.
[30:49.920 --> 30:50.920]  This is a technology.
[30:50.920 --> 30:55.280]  I mean, they have a technology because they were able to multiply frogs.
[30:55.760 --> 30:59.000]  Now they can't do everything God could do in the ten plagues.
[30:59.000 --> 31:05.320]  But the point is, these beings seem incredibly interested in biology and they're trying
[31:05.320 --> 31:12.720]  to develop ways to either raise up another whole race of beings or I don't know.
[31:12.720 --> 31:18.200]  You know, I mean, I think it dovetails very well with the transhumanist and post humanism
[31:18.200 --> 31:20.480]  and all the rest of the stuff, technocracy that's there.
[31:20.480 --> 31:24.600]  I mean, these things look like it looks to me like there's a convergence going on.
[31:24.600 --> 31:28.600]  And we should think about that kind of stuff instead of just listening and passively accepting
[31:28.600 --> 31:29.800]  all this stuff.
[31:29.800 --> 31:31.800]  We should question everything.
[31:31.800 --> 31:34.520]  And that's what discernment is really about.
[31:34.520 --> 31:38.240]  You should be concerned and you should discern what these people are telling you.
[31:38.240 --> 31:42.960]  When you're talking about the teenagers, you mentioned something, the star seed movement
[31:42.960 --> 31:43.960]  on TikTok.
[31:43.960 --> 31:44.960]  I'm not familiar with that.
[31:44.960 --> 31:47.280]  Tell people what that is if they're not on TikTok.
[31:47.280 --> 31:50.480]  It's something that's kind of targeted towards teenagers, right?
[31:50.480 --> 31:53.840]  I am not as familiar with the star seed movement, I think.
[31:53.840 --> 32:02.040]  But I think what they're talking about is panspermia is basically, even Richard Dawkins,
[32:02.040 --> 32:08.680]  for goodness sake, an atheist that just did this, that literally, you know, they recognize,
[32:08.680 --> 32:14.860]  as I said, the complexity of the DNA molecule, the complexity of life.
[32:14.860 --> 32:17.640]  It's hard to justify that it happened by chance.
[32:17.640 --> 32:18.640]  Yeah.
[32:18.640 --> 32:26.520]  So rather than saying God created us, they say, well, these beings seeded life on Earth.
[32:26.520 --> 32:27.520]  They seeded DNA.
[32:27.520 --> 32:33.280]  In fact, the beings themselves say, you know, we found this very primitive animal life form
[32:33.280 --> 32:36.680]  on Earth and we injected DNA.
[32:36.680 --> 32:40.480]  So they're our creation rather than God's.
[32:40.480 --> 32:42.860]  I mean, so that's it.
[32:42.860 --> 32:45.880]  It's like literally star seed.
[32:46.520 --> 32:49.240]  They are, how can I say it?
[32:49.240 --> 32:54.240]  They're our creators rather than the almighty God, you know, which obviously for Jews and
[32:54.240 --> 32:59.280]  for Christians is just blasphemous because, and the idea is if we get in touch with them,
[32:59.280 --> 33:02.280]  we'll get into, you know, everybody wants to find out who their parents were, right?
[33:02.280 --> 33:07.360]  Even if they were adopted, you know, so, you know, people are saying, well, I want to know
[33:07.360 --> 33:10.680]  who are the people who put me here in the first place and they're missing out.
[33:10.680 --> 33:17.120]  And the most obvious one is the almighty Yahweh, Jehovah, you know, I mean, basically.
[33:17.120 --> 33:25.600]  And so I, as I said, their goal all along has been to distract people from God, to get
[33:25.600 --> 33:30.560]  people to follow them, to raise up their own army.
[33:30.560 --> 33:35.120]  And you know, that's, that's what's going on.
[33:35.120 --> 33:39.840]  They're here to deceive us, which is what they've been doing all along.
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[34:06.200 --> 34:31.660]  Yeah, you know, when you talk about DNA, I look at that and it is so significant.
[34:32.420 --> 34:37.140]  it is, I think, you know, we're talking about the fingerprints of God and of intelligence
[34:37.140 --> 34:38.140]  and how it is organized.
[34:38.140 --> 34:42.920]  And yet the people who discovered it, Crick and Watson, again, because they don't want
[34:42.920 --> 34:47.980]  that to be true, they have to invent another perspective on that.
[34:47.980 --> 34:55.420]  So I think DNA tells us, A, there is a God and we know that, and B, we can be very closed
[34:55.420 --> 35:00.140]  to that, so closed that we will invent our own fictions to avoid that from happening.
[35:00.620 --> 35:04.020]  You get two lessons out of the DNA thing right away.
[35:04.020 --> 35:06.260]  And I think that's key.
[35:06.260 --> 35:11.140]  And I think when you talk about this, you mentioned the fact that the church has had
[35:11.140 --> 35:15.940]  multiple times when the Bible has been questioned, when their faith has been questioned, we've
[35:15.940 --> 35:20.620]  had the Enlightenment, we've had situations where they would go in with higher criticism
[35:20.620 --> 35:24.220]  and they would say, well, there's no evidence that the Hittites ever existed and that type
[35:24.220 --> 35:25.220]  of thing.
[35:25.300 --> 35:30.460]  You know, they completely discount the Bible because of that, then all of a sudden archaeology
[35:30.460 --> 35:32.460]  comes around and we start seeing all that.
[35:32.460 --> 35:39.540]  Then you have Darwin saying everything happened by chance and so forth, and then eventually
[35:39.540 --> 35:45.820]  we start seeing things like DNA, we see microbiology, and the wonder of what God has created comes
[35:45.820 --> 35:46.940]  to light.
[35:46.940 --> 35:51.900]  And so I think we're going to, the danger here is that we get caught flat-footed, and
[35:51.900 --> 35:54.180]  I think that's why your book is very important.
[35:55.140 --> 35:57.620]  That's exactly it.
[35:57.620 --> 36:02.740]  The reason I mentioned those three examples is, think of a person at that time when Darwin
[36:02.740 --> 36:07.780]  and Lyle were around, who was going to a local church, they probably never heard of that.
[36:07.780 --> 36:10.420]  They thought, even if they did hear of it, they thought, this isn't going to affect
[36:10.420 --> 36:11.660]  my life.
[36:11.660 --> 36:17.620]  And yet within 100 years, almost every major university bought that theory of evolution.
[36:17.620 --> 36:23.600]  The same thing, the search for the historical Jesus or the JEPD theory of the theologians,
[36:24.080 --> 36:27.360]  in Germany, most people have probably never even heard of that.
[36:27.360 --> 36:35.560]  And yet today, I give an example, statistics, where most young preachers today reject a
[36:35.560 --> 36:38.440]  lot of the basic principles of Christianity.
[36:38.440 --> 36:42.840]  I mean, it's like literally, people say, oh, this isn't going to affect me.
[36:42.840 --> 36:45.600]  This is just people with tin hats.
[36:45.600 --> 36:51.600]  And I'm saying, it concerns me that this is actually gaining traction.
[36:52.240 --> 36:54.240]  Yeah, I agree.
[36:54.240 --> 36:56.240]  Trying to nip it in the bud.
[36:56.240 --> 37:00.800]  For years, I would see Carl Sagan on with Johnny Carson, billions and billions of years,
[37:00.800 --> 37:01.440]  right?
[37:01.440 --> 37:06.960]  As if, if you add an infinite amount of time, of course, it's inevitable that all of this,
[37:08.000 --> 37:10.240]  that life is going to evolve everywhere, right?
[37:10.240 --> 37:12.000]  That was his basic premise.
[37:12.000 --> 37:17.680]  And as ridiculous as that is, that really works, that kind of repetition.
[37:17.680 --> 37:20.320]  We see that with product advertising, right?
[37:20.320 --> 37:24.800]  They come up with something really ridiculous, like Mr. Clean or the Jolly Green Giant,
[37:25.360 --> 37:28.160]  except it's that repetition that really is what works.
[37:28.160 --> 37:29.760]  It has to get your attention.
[37:29.760 --> 37:32.480]  And then you have to repeat it over and over and over again.
[37:32.960 --> 37:39.200]  Or like if you get the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, you won't get COVID and you won't pass it on.
[37:39.760 --> 37:43.920]  Well, we found that both of those are not true, but they repeated it so much.
[37:43.920 --> 37:45.040]  Everybody thought it was true.
[37:45.200 --> 37:51.520]  So yeah, there's this thing that literally, it's interesting to me that even Carl Sagan,
[37:51.520 --> 37:57.680]  maybe sneeringly so, had heard accounts of these gray aliens or whatever.
[37:58.480 --> 37:59.840]  And you know what he said about them?
[37:59.840 --> 38:06.720]  He said, it reminds me more of medieval demonics than it does of real beings from other planets.
[38:07.280 --> 38:12.320]  Like literally, I mean, even he saw that this was not what you would expect from a
[38:12.320 --> 38:13.520]  being from another planet.
[38:15.200 --> 38:18.240]  But you know, the thing is, as a writer, as a filmmaker,
[38:18.960 --> 38:23.920]  you're always just trying to come up with fictional ideas to kind of explore,
[38:23.920 --> 38:25.920]  which isn't a bad thing per se.
[38:26.560 --> 38:37.680]  Because for instance, in Twilight Zone, Rod Sterling, I mean, he would use
[38:37.680 --> 38:44.240]  fictional space stories to indirectly talk about social problems in society,
[38:44.240 --> 38:46.880]  like racism or outsiders.
[38:46.880 --> 38:50.960]  Because the networks would never have let him do a regular drama on those things.
[38:50.960 --> 38:52.480]  So he said it in space.
[38:53.200 --> 38:55.760]  And he did some amazing stuff.
[38:55.760 --> 38:58.960]  Like Jonathan Swift and his Gulliver's Travels, right?
[38:58.960 --> 39:00.480]  I can't directly talk about this.
[39:00.480 --> 39:02.800]  I can do it as a satire and people will get it, you know?
[39:03.680 --> 39:08.480]  Yeah. So, you know, but basically, so that's fine for fiction to explore.
[39:08.480 --> 39:10.720]  But these guys are trying to make this thing.
[39:10.720 --> 39:13.600]  One other thing I should mention, there's one other possibility.
[39:14.240 --> 39:20.880]  That maybe some of these gray aliens aren't in fact the demonic beings themselves,
[39:21.600 --> 39:26.080]  but rather very sophisticated robotics or avatars.
[39:26.640 --> 39:27.920]  I mean, think about it in this section.
[40:15.120 --> 40:18.560]  If you go, if we can't live on the planet Mars,
[40:19.120 --> 40:24.080]  but we can send little robots there to examine for us, right?
[40:25.200 --> 40:30.160]  Well, why couldn't these beings who are far more sophisticated than we are?
[40:30.960 --> 40:33.440]  And look, look at what we can do with robotics today.
[40:33.440 --> 40:36.000]  How much more could we do if a thousand years from now?
[40:36.560 --> 40:40.160]  You know, that literally, then there's people out there
[40:40.160 --> 40:43.920]  saying maybe these gray aliens aren't the aliens themselves.
[40:43.920 --> 40:49.440]  Maybe they're robotics, you know, and like there's people calling them sabers,
[40:49.440 --> 40:52.240]  like synthetic, what is it?
[40:52.240 --> 40:56.640]  Synthetic, autonomous, biological, you know, robots or something.
[40:56.640 --> 41:03.040]  I mean, the bottom line is I got this idea additionally from a guy called L.A. Marzulli,
[41:03.040 --> 41:07.840]  who kind of has spent a lot of time looking in all possibilities.
[41:07.840 --> 41:10.720]  And when you think about that, it makes sense because
[41:11.040 --> 41:13.760]  they don't have to do all of it themselves.
[41:13.760 --> 41:20.320]  It seems, you know, they, because it seems like, you know, fallen angels have lost some
[41:20.320 --> 41:23.440]  of their ability to manifest in three dimensional time and space.
[41:24.400 --> 41:32.480]  So they need to send something else just like we send robots to Mars to be able to do that.
[41:32.480 --> 41:34.480]  Because there's some questions that remain.
[41:34.480 --> 41:39.200]  Well, if these are, if these are really, you know, demonic beings, why does this happen?
[41:39.920 --> 41:41.120]  Why do they die?
[41:41.120 --> 41:42.720]  Because angels don't die.
[41:44.000 --> 41:49.280]  But, you know, if they have, if their robots have a skin type coat, that can die.
[41:50.960 --> 41:55.040]  The other thing is, you know, Jesus makes a very interesting statement one time when
[41:55.040 --> 41:56.720]  he's talking about casting out demons.
[41:57.840 --> 42:03.120]  He says, you know, if a demon is cast out, that person needs to turn back to God.
[42:03.680 --> 42:07.920]  Otherwise, all these other demons are going to come back and re-inhabit the person.
[42:08.720 --> 42:13.440]  And he says, they pass over waterless spaces, and then they find a person,
[42:14.000 --> 42:15.440]  and they come back inside him.
[42:15.440 --> 42:19.120]  And you're thinking, so why, why waterless spaces?
[42:19.120 --> 42:21.920]  Why, why do they have to come back inside him?
[42:22.560 --> 42:29.120]  Apparently, there's some need to be inside a watered space, and we're what, 60% water,
[42:30.160 --> 42:35.360]  you know, to survive in this three dimensional time space that we live in.
[42:36.240 --> 42:41.440]  So it's possible that these fallen angels have deteriorated in their own ability to
[42:41.440 --> 42:46.800]  manifest in our dimension, that they need, you know, that's demonic possession.
[42:48.000 --> 42:50.560]  Or it's basically they could be robots.
[42:51.200 --> 42:55.840]  But the other thing, too, that's interesting, as I said, I spent a whole chapter talking about
[42:56.400 --> 43:01.280]  holy angels, because falling angels originally were holy angels before they
[43:02.240 --> 43:02.720]  rebelled.
[43:03.280 --> 43:07.840]  So they would have a lot of the same characteristics that holy angels would.
[43:07.840 --> 43:12.640]  And holy angels can transition between three dimensions and higher dimensions.
[43:14.240 --> 43:19.920]  And they don't, I mean, we have these pictures of Renaissance art angels.
[43:20.640 --> 43:26.080]  And, you know, the Bible talks about the fact that angels can look just like us.
[43:26.080 --> 43:29.920]  Holy angels who visited a lot look exactly like us.
[43:30.560 --> 43:35.120]  You know, the angels, they can also look like angels of light.
[43:35.760 --> 43:37.440]  And so I would be surprised.
[43:37.440 --> 43:42.320]  I mean, some people talk about these beings of aliens called Nordics,
[43:42.960 --> 43:48.640]  which means they look like Scandinavians, you know, big husky, blonde hair, the whole thing.
[43:48.640 --> 43:54.640]  And it's entirely possible that that is a division of fallen angels.
[43:55.520 --> 43:58.640]  The Bible says there's at least four branches.
[43:58.640 --> 44:04.640]  There's principalities, powers, world forces of darkness, spiritual forces of wickedness
[44:04.640 --> 44:12.000]  in heavenly places, that there could be a huge variety of angels, of angelic type beings.
[44:12.640 --> 44:20.320]  And so, you know, I mean, you look at the animal world, God seems to delight in variety.
[44:21.760 --> 44:24.160]  That was always one of the things when we talk about evolution.
[44:24.160 --> 44:26.560]  And when I was growing up, dinosaurs were a big thing.
[44:26.560 --> 44:27.760]  They were always pushing that to us.
[44:28.320 --> 44:33.840]  And we'd always see them, and they'd always be just skin, and it would just be gray or green
[44:33.840 --> 44:34.960]  or something like that.
[44:34.960 --> 44:37.040]  And I thought, hey, you know, that's interesting.
[44:37.040 --> 44:38.560]  There's no colors or anything with them.
[44:38.560 --> 44:43.840]  I thought, you know, and later on when I started thinking about it and teaching my own kids that,
[44:43.840 --> 44:46.560]  I thought, you know, God doesn't work that way.
[44:46.560 --> 44:50.480]  But you would never look at the skeleton of a lion if you'd never seen a lion before,
[44:50.480 --> 44:53.760]  and not know that you wouldn't know that it had a mane.
[44:53.760 --> 44:56.000]  You wouldn't know that a zebra had stripes.
[44:56.000 --> 45:00.400]  You wouldn't know all of these details that God delights in putting in animals,
[45:00.400 --> 45:03.920]  and yet we have no imagination when it comes to that kind of stuff.
[45:03.920 --> 45:05.760]  It's even more amazing than that.
[45:06.320 --> 45:11.600]  You go down to the bottom of the oceans, and there's animals, there's fish down there.
[45:12.240 --> 45:13.040]  And you know what?
[45:13.040 --> 45:16.080]  There's no light down there, but the fish have colors.
[45:17.120 --> 45:17.620]  Why?
[45:18.400 --> 45:19.760]  Why do they have colors?
[45:19.760 --> 45:21.040]  God can see them, we can't.
[45:21.040 --> 45:23.520]  We didn't even know they did, you know?
[45:23.520 --> 45:28.000]  And it's like, when I was in an aquarium in Long Beach, I looked around and I was
[45:28.000 --> 45:31.600]  looking at these seahorses, which I like, you know, it's kind of interesting.
[45:32.240 --> 45:36.000]  There's at least 40 different varieties of seahorses.
[45:36.000 --> 45:37.760]  Why so many varieties?
[45:37.760 --> 45:41.520]  I mean, so I believe that, you know, if there's varieties of
[45:42.160 --> 45:45.360]  holy angels, there's also varieties of fallen angels.
[45:46.000 --> 45:50.960]  And so we would expect to see these supernatural beings in different ways.
[45:50.960 --> 45:57.040]  You look in Revelation 4 and 5, you're going to see visions of angels that you've never
[45:57.040 --> 45:59.680]  seen in Renaissance art, you know what I mean?
[46:00.800 --> 46:07.040]  I think the thing is we, you know, most people try to reduce the Christian viewpoint on this
[46:07.040 --> 46:09.200]  as, oh, they're demons, you know?
[46:09.200 --> 46:11.520]  Well, I think it's much broader.
[46:11.520 --> 46:17.440]  I think what we call demons is just a very small branch of the entire fallen angelic
[46:17.440 --> 46:20.000]  realm, and they all have different duties.
[46:20.000 --> 46:24.400]  They all have different, you know, tasks to try to get us away from God.
[46:25.440 --> 46:33.200]  And this thing with UFOs is just another fresh coat of paint on an old deception,
[46:33.760 --> 46:34.960]  and we're falling for it.
[46:34.960 --> 46:35.460]  Yeah.
[46:35.680 --> 46:36.480]  Yeah, we talk about it.
[46:36.480 --> 46:39.360]  I mean, of all people, you know, Christians that say, well, of course there's
[46:40.000 --> 46:40.960]  extraterrestrial life.
[46:40.960 --> 46:43.920]  I mean, the Bible is full of accounts of that.
[46:43.920 --> 46:46.000]  And as you point out, sometimes it looks like people.
[46:46.000 --> 46:51.360]  Sometimes we have these strange creatures that are wheels within wheels and eyes all
[46:51.360 --> 46:55.840]  over the wheels, or we get a situation where they've got four faces, and one of them is a
[46:55.840 --> 47:00.240]  man, and the other one's an eagle, and the other one is an oxen, and all this.
[47:00.240 --> 47:04.800]  Yeah, and so it's like, whoa, what does that even look like, you know?
[47:04.800 --> 47:06.560]  And those are just a couple of them.
[47:06.560 --> 47:08.000]  Most of them are not even described.
[47:08.000 --> 47:12.000]  They just have angels typically like a work description, right?
[47:12.000 --> 47:15.360]  It's like a messenger, but it doesn't really describe, you know,
[47:15.360 --> 47:17.520]  the Bible doesn't go into detail describing this.
[47:17.520 --> 47:24.000]  We've had this tradition of little tiny cherubs being little fat babies with wings,
[47:24.000 --> 47:28.320]  but that's kind of far from the biblical version of what a cherubim is.
[47:28.320 --> 47:37.520]  Well, you know, just to say, I mean, if God created this angelic race to do his tasks
[47:37.520 --> 47:43.600]  for him, he would have created the best, the brightest, the smartest, the most powerful
[47:44.160 --> 47:45.600]  beings ever.
[47:48.240 --> 47:51.840]  Humans, God calls us sheep, okay?
[47:52.720 --> 47:54.960]  Sheep are the dumbest animals in the farm.
[47:55.680 --> 48:02.800]  God never calls angels sheep, and I think that, you know, we basically are just fooled.
[48:02.800 --> 48:07.040]  We think that these are just stupid beings that don't know what they're doing.
[48:07.040 --> 48:12.000]  They're very, very smart, and they wrap us around their fingers all the time.
[48:12.560 --> 48:19.120]  Unless we trust in God, unless we walk with him, because, yeah, these beings are,
[48:20.400 --> 48:21.760]  you know, we need to be aware.
[48:21.760 --> 48:27.040]  I mean, they do have knowledge we do not have, and they've been giving it to man
[48:27.600 --> 48:30.400]  throughout the ages to lure us.
[48:31.680 --> 48:35.280]  You look at Edgar Cayce, you know, the sleeping prophet.
[48:35.280 --> 48:40.320]  He would go into a trance in Virginia Beach, and he'd give these readings with people he'd
[48:40.320 --> 48:40.960]  never met.
[48:41.520 --> 48:48.000]  He'd tell them what their disease was, and then he'd suggest a cure that wasn't even
[48:48.000 --> 48:49.280]  existing at that point.
[48:51.440 --> 48:52.880]  He's got an eighth grade education.
[48:52.880 --> 48:53.680]  He's a photographer.
[48:53.680 --> 48:54.640]  Where did he get that?
[48:55.360 --> 48:55.920]  You know what?
[48:56.560 --> 49:03.520]  There's a mathematician in India who basically had a basic education in math, and he came up
[49:03.520 --> 49:08.480]  with some of the most brilliant mathematical formulas, and he had just a basic education.
[49:08.480 --> 49:10.080]  And you know where he said he got them from?
[49:10.640 --> 49:14.000]  He said he got them in a dream from a Hindu goddess.
[49:15.120 --> 49:19.440]  I mean, basically, they have much greater knowledge than we do.
[49:19.440 --> 49:22.240]  And there's another example that I mentioned in the book.
[49:22.240 --> 49:25.520]  I'm not going to mention here because I might get sued by a major corporation.
[49:26.640 --> 49:31.440]  But literally, it's something so advanced that the patent office wouldn't even patent
[49:31.440 --> 49:32.240]  it at the time.
[49:32.800 --> 49:38.320]  You know, it's like literally, these are very powerful, very intelligent beings.
[49:39.280 --> 49:44.400]  They certainly could create craft that could go 40,000 miles an hour in our atmosphere
[49:45.440 --> 49:51.760]  without any signs of propulsion, and then seemingly just disappear, go to another dimension.
[49:51.760 --> 49:52.480]  Yeah, I agree.
[49:52.480 --> 49:57.920]  I mean, you know, it's like, oh, and no, no, no, no, uh, sonic boom, no sonic boom.
[49:57.920 --> 49:58.640]  We can't do that.
[49:58.640 --> 50:01.680]  I mean, they're not subject to our laws of physics.
[50:01.680 --> 50:03.440]  They're working with something else.
[50:04.080 --> 50:08.640]  And I just say, you know, people who are, you know, the old thing,
[50:08.640 --> 50:10.400]  if you play with fire, you're going to get burned.
[50:33.440 --> 51:03.120]  You're dealing with the whole occult is a very, very dangerous place.
[51:03.200 --> 51:06.400]  It's very attractive at times because it can give you knowledge.
[51:06.400 --> 51:11.520]  It can give you power, but you look at the people who've been affected by these beings
[51:12.240 --> 51:14.000]  and their lives have been destroyed.
[51:15.840 --> 51:21.280]  I've heard several accounts of people who were writers and they'd say, yeah, I get my,
[51:21.280 --> 51:23.840]  you know, I lay down on the couch here and kind of go into a trance.
[51:24.400 --> 51:28.880]  And then my muse gives me the ideas for the plots and all the rest of the stuff.
[51:28.880 --> 51:31.120]  Or you have a situation like my son just pointed out,
[51:31.120 --> 51:36.880]  Kerry Mullis who developed PCR said he got it when he was on LSD.
[51:36.880 --> 51:39.760]  And of course we've got a lot of people who are using, what is that?
[51:40.880 --> 51:43.440]  That one drug that I have, you show us.
[51:43.440 --> 51:44.000]  Ecstasy.
[51:44.720 --> 51:46.080]  Not ecstasy, but the other one.
[51:46.080 --> 51:47.200]  Hiawaska.
[51:47.200 --> 51:47.760]  Hiawaska.
[51:47.760 --> 51:51.280]  Yeah, Hiawaska, where they say they encounter machine elves, right?
[51:51.280 --> 51:57.360]  And they're giving them some, and they keep seeing this basically the same thing, you know,
[51:57.360 --> 52:01.760]  so they're actually getting together and some of them are doing research, they say,
[52:01.760 --> 52:06.720]  so they take this drug and they call themselves psychonauts instead of astronauts.
[52:06.720 --> 52:10.640]  And they're trying to take notes to see what the different ones say to them.
[52:12.480 --> 52:17.120]  You're opening yourself up to higher dimensional beings that will take advantage of you.
[52:17.120 --> 52:18.000]  That's right.
[52:18.000 --> 52:20.080]  And that's been a long term thing.
[52:20.080 --> 52:25.040]  If you look at the Bible, I've talked about this a lot during the pharmaceutical wars that we had
[52:25.040 --> 52:31.280]  six years ago, the pharmacia, which is basically translated to sorcery in the New Testament.
[52:31.280 --> 52:37.040]  But basically it was a combination of drugs with the occult and with other religions
[52:37.040 --> 52:39.280]  to get people in touch with these other beings.
[52:39.280 --> 52:41.840]  So there is another dimension that is there.
[52:41.840 --> 52:43.200]  I truly believe that.
[52:43.200 --> 52:45.200]  And we see a lot of evidence of that.
[52:45.200 --> 52:50.000]  And I think that really is what is at play here, especially when you look at the
[52:50.000 --> 52:52.000]  level of deception that is involved.
[52:52.000 --> 52:53.200]  I think that is a real tell.
[52:54.080 --> 52:56.320]  Yeah, that's, as I said, the doctrine.
[52:56.320 --> 52:57.520]  I say there's two tests.
[52:57.520 --> 52:58.960]  The Bible gives two tests.
[52:58.960 --> 53:01.760]  It says test the spirits, and these are spirits.
[53:02.480 --> 53:04.960]  The first test is the doctrinal test.
[53:04.960 --> 53:09.120]  It says anyone who doesn't confess Jesus come into the flesh is not of God.
[53:09.120 --> 53:12.560]  And apostle Paul says, if somebody features a different doctrine
[53:12.560 --> 53:15.360]  than the one we gave you about the gospel, let him be accursed.
[53:15.360 --> 53:18.000]  That's the first test that tells you who the spirits are.
[53:18.000 --> 53:20.080]  The second test is their fruits.
[53:20.640 --> 53:25.120]  A bad tree can't produce good fruits.
[53:25.120 --> 53:30.160]  And that's what this whole film is about, this disclosure day,
[53:30.160 --> 53:33.200]  is they don't talk about the fruits of these beings
[53:34.000 --> 53:35.440]  because the fruits are very negative.
[53:35.440 --> 53:37.440]  They say they're not going to hurt people, and then they hurt them.
[53:38.160 --> 53:40.240]  And they say they're not lying, and then they lie.
[53:40.960 --> 53:44.960]  I mean, you know, basically that alone should tell you.
[53:45.040 --> 53:50.720]  One other thing I will mention is that this is kind of the thing that gives it away.
[53:51.680 --> 53:56.160]  When people say they've been abducted or been influenced by these beings,
[53:57.040 --> 53:58.880]  they say it can't stop.
[53:58.880 --> 54:01.520]  It continues, and you can't stop it.
[54:02.480 --> 54:06.960]  But there's one thing that does stop it, and that's calling on Jesus' name.
[54:08.320 --> 54:08.800]  Yes.
[54:08.800 --> 54:13.120]  No, I mean, it's literally there's a picture of a videotape of a guy
[54:13.120 --> 54:19.760]  who is being lifted up off his bed by these beings, and he didn't want to go.
[54:19.760 --> 54:21.600]  And he just cries out, Jesus, save me.
[54:22.880 --> 54:26.000]  He's pushed back on the bed immediately, and it stops.
[54:26.000 --> 54:31.200]  There's a guy called Joe Dorden who basically has been an exit counselor for over 600 people
[54:31.200 --> 54:32.480]  who wanted to get out of this.
[54:33.200 --> 54:38.560]  And there's a guy we interviewed called Blake Healy, you know, who's the same sort of thing.
[54:38.560 --> 54:41.920]  I mean, as I said, I mean, obviously I wrote the book as a companion book,
[54:41.920 --> 54:44.960]  but what started out as this documentary five years ago.
[54:44.960 --> 54:47.120]  And it's finally coming out in September.
[54:47.120 --> 54:48.880]  The book's coming out in August.
[54:48.880 --> 54:51.680]  The other producer said, why don't you write a companion book?
[54:51.680 --> 54:55.040]  And foolishly, I said yes, because I thought it would be like a 70-page book.
[54:55.680 --> 54:57.520]  And it turned about 350 pages.
[54:57.520 --> 55:00.240]  But I tried to answer most of the questions people would have.
[55:00.880 --> 55:05.680]  And if you want to know more about it, just go to ufosandgod.com for the film,
[55:05.680 --> 55:10.480]  or ufosandgodbook.com for the book.
[55:10.480 --> 55:15.520]  And the book's not coming out until August, but you can preorder now on Barnes & Noble.
[55:16.400 --> 55:20.400]  But basically, I tried to, because I figured people are going to have a lot of questions,
[55:20.400 --> 55:23.760]  and I can't cover them all in an interview like this.
[55:23.760 --> 55:26.640]  And I do thank you so much for allowing me to come on.
[55:26.640 --> 55:28.240]  Oh, I thank you for doing this.
[55:28.240 --> 55:29.600]  I mean, it's a very important topic.
[55:29.600 --> 55:30.240]  It really is.
[55:30.240 --> 55:32.640]  And like I said before, we don't want to be caught flat-footed.
[55:33.360 --> 55:37.200]  Frequently, we're trying to catch up to whatever the initiative is,
[55:37.200 --> 55:38.960]  wherever the attack is coming from.
[55:38.960 --> 55:40.640]  And it's always based in deception.
[55:41.360 --> 55:44.320]  Before we end the interview, though, I had a couple questions.
[55:44.320 --> 55:45.040]  We have time.
[55:47.040 --> 55:49.680]  What is your take on the government's role in this?
[55:49.680 --> 55:52.880]  We've talked a lot about media and entertainment.
[55:52.880 --> 55:55.920]  And of course, some of this is just creating a fantasy world.
[55:55.920 --> 55:59.440]  Some of the people are very seriously trying to sell us a worldview,
[55:59.440 --> 56:00.800]  as Steven Spielberg is now.
[56:00.800 --> 56:03.040]  But what is your take on the government?
[56:03.680 --> 56:05.520]  Why did they cover it up?
[56:05.520 --> 56:09.200]  Why are they now pushing it out there in the way that they are?
[56:10.000 --> 56:17.760]  Well, I think secular governments have always felt that religion is useful
[56:18.640 --> 56:21.120]  because it keeps people in line.
[56:23.120 --> 56:27.040]  If there wasn't a God, government couldn't be everywhere to keep an eye on everybody.
[56:27.040 --> 56:31.520]  So we want to be able to put a guilt grip on people so they behave the law.
[56:32.480 --> 56:37.200]  And so they're always afraid that if people stop believing in religion,
[56:37.200 --> 56:40.400]  just Katie bar the door, all hell's going to break loose.
[56:40.400 --> 56:46.560]  And so when they see something like this that could undermine different faiths,
[56:48.160 --> 56:50.320]  basically they want to cover it up.
[56:50.320 --> 56:53.680]  And that's, I believe, is one of the primary reasons.
[56:53.680 --> 56:57.040]  One of the people we interviewed is a political science professor who says,
[56:57.200 --> 56:58.000]  the noble lie.
[56:58.800 --> 57:04.800]  It's better to have a noble lie that keeps people in check than to tell them the truth.
[57:05.360 --> 57:08.400]  And that's kind of the way governments kind of operate.
[57:09.840 --> 57:13.840]  Maybe it's better to tell them that this COVID shot works than tell them that it doesn't.
[57:17.280 --> 57:18.880]  They don't believe in the Bible, they don't believe in Christ,
[57:18.880 --> 57:20.880]  but they look at it and they say, you know, we could use that.
[57:21.440 --> 57:21.940]  Yes.
[57:23.440 --> 57:28.240]  Now, that's not all people in government, but I think, you know, they've been pretty
[57:28.240 --> 57:31.680]  tight-lipped about the whole thing and they've tried to cover it up for years.
[57:31.680 --> 57:33.440]  I mean, that's just a given.
[57:34.080 --> 57:42.080]  But I've seen interviews on TV of both the former head of intelligence in Israel,
[57:42.880 --> 57:48.000]  the former head of intelligence in Canada, and they just flat out come out and say,
[57:48.000 --> 57:50.960]  oh yeah, they exist, these beings exist, and we've talked to them.
[57:51.600 --> 57:54.160]  In fact, we're trying to work out agreements with them.
[57:54.160 --> 57:57.200]  They're trying to get us to join a federation just like Star Trek.
[57:58.240 --> 58:02.640]  And I'm going, I don't know if I buy that, but this is a credible guy,
[58:02.640 --> 58:04.720]  and he's coming out and saying that.
[58:04.720 --> 58:07.840]  And a lot of people who've been doing it say, well, we don't tell the presidents,
[58:07.840 --> 58:12.000]  because those are in office for four years and they're gone, you know.
[58:12.000 --> 58:16.000]  We want the people who are going to be around in government offices for 20, 30 years
[58:16.000 --> 58:18.080]  to be handling things this sensitive.
[58:18.080 --> 58:23.200]  So I think that they live on a very, what can I say,
[58:24.560 --> 58:30.560]  just practical level of just what's the most expedient thing to do.
[58:34.480 --> 58:37.920]  They're going to get called wackos if they say it's religious, you know.
[58:37.920 --> 58:44.800]  I mean, I saw a documentary about disclosure and this one guy who was in the government
[58:44.800 --> 58:48.480]  and he said, you know, this guy in the Pentagon says, oh, it's all,
[58:48.480 --> 58:50.160]  you know, demonic or something.
[58:50.160 --> 58:54.000]  And he said, I can't believe these people, you know, it's like literally
[58:54.800 --> 58:58.160]  they believe in a strictly material universe.
[58:58.880 --> 59:01.840]  And so a lot of the people refuse to accept.
[59:02.800 --> 59:06.320]  And, you know, look, does this really affect my daily life?
[59:06.320 --> 59:09.120]  I mean, my daily life is, you know, we had a war in Iran.
[59:09.120 --> 59:11.760]  We have an ongoing war in Ukraine.
[59:11.760 --> 59:14.240]  My kids are, you know, smoking dope.
[59:14.640 --> 59:16.160]  We've got crime on the streets.
[59:16.160 --> 59:17.760]  We've got, you know, all kinds of stuff.
[59:17.760 --> 59:20.000]  This thing about UFOs, how does that affect me?
[59:20.000 --> 59:24.080]  I'm not going to, you know, and I think, you know, my answer is that
[59:24.960 --> 59:27.120]  the thing is it all comes from the same source.
[59:28.080 --> 59:35.600]  The source is from this realm of fallen evil beings that desires to destroy us.
[59:36.240 --> 59:38.640]  Jesus says to kill, steal and destroy.
[59:39.360 --> 59:42.960]  And they'll do it indirectly through temptations,
[59:42.960 --> 59:48.800]  through sexual and drug obsesses, through pride, the lust of the flesh,
[59:48.800 --> 59:49.920]  the lust of the eyes.
[59:49.920 --> 59:53.920]  But sometimes they'll do it directly through confronting us,
[59:53.920 --> 59:59.120]  like in the book of Job or when Jesus tried to, you know,
[59:59.120 --> 01:00:00.960]  when Satan tried to tempt Jesus.
[01:00:00.960 --> 01:00:03.440]  I mean, there are times of direct temptation.
[01:00:04.960 --> 01:00:07.040]  So it all comes from the same source.
[01:00:07.120 --> 01:00:11.280]  But government tends to be, you know, what's practical, what's expedient,
[01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:12.880]  and we're going to get rid of the rest.
[01:00:12.880 --> 01:00:16.880]  So they don't want to even get into the spiritual aspect.
[01:00:16.880 --> 01:00:19.120]  And I see where they're coming from.
[01:00:19.120 --> 01:00:23.120]  And it's surprising that even JD Vance is even venturing that way,
[01:00:23.120 --> 01:00:26.000]  because, you know, you get labeled as being a kook.
[01:00:28.400 --> 01:00:35.440]  And of course, Luna, Paula, the Florida congresswoman has weighed in on it
[01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:39.920]  and talked about, well, I think it's, you know, the book of Enoch or whatever.
[01:00:41.200 --> 01:00:45.120]  And so, you know, we look at this and certainly in the past,
[01:00:45.120 --> 01:00:48.960]  I think, as they would engage people and try to deceive them,
[01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:52.480]  I think they would present themselves as gods, for example, right?
[01:00:52.480 --> 01:00:53.840]  And create a mythology of that.
[01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:57.520]  But they've been working for quite some time through the entertainment industry,
[01:00:57.520 --> 01:01:01.600]  creating a mythology, I think, just for their grand entrance.
[01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:05.280]  Well, I mean, you take a film like Poltergeist.
[01:01:05.920 --> 01:01:10.800]  I mean, my gosh, there's a whole mythology they create there
[01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:13.680]  to avoid it being spiritual beings, you know?
[01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:18.960]  And, well, I'm going to have to go here in a second.
[01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:21.200]  But gosh, I thank you so much.
[01:01:21.200 --> 01:01:22.720]  Well, it's great to have you on.
[01:01:22.720 --> 01:01:25.840]  And tell everybody again, you got the film is coming out in September
[01:01:25.840 --> 01:01:26.880]  and the book in August.
[01:01:26.880 --> 01:01:28.240]  Early September, late September.
[01:01:28.240 --> 01:01:30.400]  And if you ever want, I'll send you an email.
[01:01:30.400 --> 01:01:34.800]  If you ever want to call me back or interview the directors,
[01:01:35.440 --> 01:01:37.360]  I could get you in touch with them, too.
[01:01:37.360 --> 01:01:39.200]  Yeah, this is a topic that's not going to go away.
[01:01:39.200 --> 01:01:40.560]  It's only going to build.
[01:01:40.560 --> 01:01:41.440]  I think you're right.
[01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:41.760]  Yeah.
[01:01:41.760 --> 01:01:43.680]  So again, thank you so, so much.
[01:01:43.680 --> 01:01:44.560]  Thank you.
[01:01:44.560 --> 01:01:46.320]  Our goal is just to get the word out there.
[01:01:46.320 --> 01:01:47.760]  Hey, there's an alternative.
[01:01:47.760 --> 01:01:50.480]  Don't just buy into the one answer.
[01:01:50.480 --> 01:01:52.720]  And of course, we didn't get into it with this.
[01:01:52.720 --> 01:01:56.720]  But of course, you also talk about how we can engage this with our family,
[01:01:56.720 --> 01:01:59.680]  with others without being sensationalist about it,
[01:01:59.680 --> 01:02:02.240]  without being paranoid and fearful about it.
[01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:04.000]  And that is the key thing.
[01:02:04.720 --> 01:02:06.800]  As my son was saying, he left me a note.
[01:02:06.800 --> 01:02:08.880]  He said, yeah, if they look like a little cherub
[01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:11.040]  that they have on all the different greeting cards and everything,
[01:02:11.040 --> 01:02:12.560]  they wouldn't say, fear not.
[01:02:12.560 --> 01:02:13.520]  They would say, don't laugh.
[01:02:15.360 --> 01:02:15.920]  That's true.
[01:02:16.800 --> 01:02:20.080]  Well, the other thing in the book, I go into spiritual warfare
[01:02:20.080 --> 01:02:21.200]  and how to protect yourself.
[01:02:21.200 --> 01:02:24.400]  And I also say, if you run into one of these encounters,
[01:02:24.400 --> 01:02:25.360]  here's what you can do.
[01:02:26.160 --> 01:02:28.560]  So basically, giving practical advice.
[01:02:28.560 --> 01:02:30.640]  And also talk a little bit in the end times.
[01:02:30.640 --> 01:02:32.320]  How might this play into the end times?
[01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:33.920]  That's very important.
[01:02:33.920 --> 01:02:34.480]  Very important.
[01:02:34.480 --> 01:02:35.200]  Thank you very much.
[01:02:35.200 --> 01:02:39.600]  Derek Warfeld and the book in the movie are UFOs and God.
[01:02:39.600 --> 01:02:42.240]  Is that with an ampersand or do you spell it out, A-N-D?
[01:02:42.240 --> 01:02:43.040]  I spell it out.
[01:02:43.040 --> 01:02:44.320]  UFOs and God.
[01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:44.640]  Okay.
[01:02:44.640 --> 01:02:48.320]  And then ufosandgod.com or ufosandgodbook.com.
[01:02:48.320 --> 01:02:49.040]  Okay.
[01:02:49.040 --> 01:02:52.240]  And you can pre-book the book that's coming out in August.
[01:02:52.240 --> 01:02:56.080]  And so take a look at those websites.
[01:02:56.080 --> 01:02:57.840]  I think you're going to find a lot of practical information
[01:02:57.840 --> 01:02:59.280]  that's going to answer a lot of questions for you.
[01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:00.400]  Thank you so much.
[01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:02.000]  Derek Warfeld, thank you.
[01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:03.040]  Thank you so much, David.
[01:03:03.040 --> 01:03:03.360]  Thank you.
[01:03:03.360 --> 01:03:03.860]  Sure.
[01:03:57.840 --> 01:04:12.400]  Liberty, it's your move.
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[01:04:57.520 --> 01:05:21.600]  Well, joining us now is one of my favorite guests,
[01:05:21.600 --> 01:05:24.240]  Eric Peters of erikpetersautos.com.
[01:05:24.800 --> 01:05:26.640]  He always has very interesting articles.
[01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:30.480]  Hot politics as well as vintage cars.
[01:05:30.480 --> 01:05:32.880]  And the trends of where we're going with our cars right now.
[01:05:33.520 --> 01:05:36.960]  Not a good trend actually, but it is interesting to look at them.
[01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:39.200]  And so we're going to talk to Eric about some of the excellent
[01:05:39.200 --> 01:05:40.480]  articles that he has on his site.
[01:05:40.480 --> 01:05:42.400]  He always has great stuff on his site.
[01:05:43.040 --> 01:05:46.240]  But I want to begin with the politics because Eric,
[01:05:46.240 --> 01:05:49.760]  you had an interesting article caught my eye right away.
[01:05:49.760 --> 01:05:50.800]  It's a deal or no deal.
[01:05:50.800 --> 01:05:54.960]  And I started thinking about Monty Python, Monty Hall.
[01:05:54.960 --> 01:05:58.400]  I guess where we are right now is really like the Monty Python
[01:05:58.400 --> 01:05:59.600]  version of Let's Make a Deal.
[01:06:01.520 --> 01:06:04.000]  And so I went back and I looked at one of these shows
[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:06.960]  because I thought maybe there's something in there I could use
[01:06:06.960 --> 01:06:08.720]  if it's a familiar enough theme.
[01:06:08.720 --> 01:06:10.240]  But no, it wasn't anything like that.
[01:06:10.240 --> 01:06:12.560]  But I looked at it and it was kind of interesting
[01:06:12.560 --> 01:06:14.400]  because it got a couple of clownish characters,
[01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:16.400]  which could be the MAGA crowd, right?
[01:06:17.520 --> 01:06:20.400]  And he offers them a deal and he says,
[01:06:20.720 --> 01:06:26.160]  so here's $500 cash or you can take a chance on what's behind
[01:06:26.160 --> 01:06:27.520]  this box over here, right?
[01:06:27.520 --> 01:06:29.440]  So I said, well, let's go for the box.
[01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.360]  And they open up the box and they got like three jars
[01:06:31.360 --> 01:06:32.640]  of peanut butter or something, right?
[01:06:32.640 --> 01:06:35.680]  And he goes, and I was like, you know, so he goes,
[01:06:35.680 --> 01:06:36.960]  well, I'll tell you what I'll do.
[01:06:36.960 --> 01:06:40.080]  I'll buy the peanut butter from you for $200 per jar.
[01:06:40.080 --> 01:06:42.240]  So now instead of 500, they got 600.
[01:06:42.240 --> 01:06:44.160]  He goes, or you can take that 600.
[01:06:44.160 --> 01:06:45.360]  That's a sure thing.
[01:06:45.360 --> 01:06:49.600]  Or you can go for what's behind the stage door up there, right?
[01:06:49.600 --> 01:06:53.040]  So they go for the $600 and then behind the stage door
[01:06:53.040 --> 01:06:58.240]  is a brand new Corvette, which in 1973 cost $6,000.
[01:07:00.240 --> 01:07:03.120]  A Corvette convertible is no less, you know?
[01:07:03.120 --> 01:07:05.440]  And so I thought, yeah, that's really,
[01:07:05.440 --> 01:07:08.480]  I guess the deal that we have made as Americans
[01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:10.480]  is that we're going to take the easy money
[01:07:10.480 --> 01:07:14.080]  and we wind up having money that is not worth anything,
[01:07:14.080 --> 01:07:14.960]  which is really where we are.
[01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:16.640]  That's kind of the deal that's been made, isn't it?
[01:07:17.520 --> 01:07:20.720]  Yes, and it's on the verge of apparently being changed yet again.
[01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:26.480]  He's bellicose-ly bloviating about bombing the Iranians again.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.880]  Meanwhile, my understanding of this memorandum of agreement,
[01:07:30.880 --> 01:07:34.320]  it's basically agreeing to all of Iran's war aims, basically.
[01:07:34.320 --> 01:07:37.920]  So it's return of the status quo at a cost of what?
[01:07:38.720 --> 01:07:41.360]  How much has been spent on this fiasco?
[01:07:41.360 --> 01:07:44.960]  And how much have Americans been compelled to pay?
[01:07:44.960 --> 01:07:46.880]  The figure that I've heard is $40 billion.
[01:07:47.680 --> 01:07:48.960]  Yeah, I've heard more than that.
[01:07:48.960 --> 01:07:52.000]  I've heard, you know, like the first couple of days or something,
[01:07:52.000 --> 01:07:53.840]  there were $16 or $17 billion.
[01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:57.920]  I've seen figures anywhere from $100 billion to $113 billion
[01:07:57.920 --> 01:08:02.080]  based on the military expenditures in terms of bombs and missiles
[01:08:02.080 --> 01:08:04.080]  and planes and drones that have been shot down.
[01:08:04.640 --> 01:08:09.360]  And then there's the crazy $300 billion, okay?
[01:08:09.360 --> 01:08:11.280]  This is kind of like the mystery amount, you know?
[01:08:11.280 --> 01:08:17.280]  When we go for this deal, there's this memorandum of understanding
[01:08:17.280 --> 01:08:20.560]  that we're not allowed to see until Monte says so.
[01:08:20.560 --> 01:08:23.040]  And it's really kind of like a three-card Monte, isn't it?
[01:08:24.160 --> 01:08:27.040]  He says, we hold all the cards, but he's playing a card trick on us.
[01:08:28.240 --> 01:08:32.480]  It seems superficially as if he's trying to find the exit lane,
[01:08:32.480 --> 01:08:35.360]  that he's trying to figure out a way to extricate himself,
[01:08:35.360 --> 01:08:40.000]  the Republican party from this fiasco that he got us all into.
[01:08:41.360 --> 01:08:46.160]  Whether that's in fact for real or just another show, it's hard to divine.
[01:08:46.160 --> 01:08:49.280]  My understanding is that the Israelis are furious about this.
[01:08:49.280 --> 01:08:51.040]  Oh yeah, they made no question about that.
[01:08:51.040 --> 01:08:54.480]  I mean, and all their surrogates in the media as well, right?
[01:08:54.480 --> 01:08:59.760]  Yeah, and they're absolutely continuing to, you know, engage in war in Lebanon.
[01:09:00.400 --> 01:09:03.280]  Just today, they launched a number of new attacks
[01:09:03.280 --> 01:09:06.080]  and the Iranians have made it clear that they're not going to put up with that.
[01:09:06.080 --> 01:09:08.480]  So the thing that worries me, and this might sound a little bit dark,
[01:09:08.480 --> 01:09:10.880]  paranoid, conspiratorial, I hope I'm wrong.
[01:09:11.040 --> 01:09:15.040]  I hope it's just that I've become cynical after doing journalism for 30 something years
[01:09:15.040 --> 01:09:16.960]  and dealing with all of this stuff.
[01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:21.600]  But what I worry about is that this is a lull before the storm
[01:09:21.600 --> 01:09:25.600]  and that there is going to be some event that Trump will hope,
[01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:30.080]  will try to use to jumpstart enthusiasm for the war in this country.
[01:09:30.080 --> 01:09:33.040]  The war is very unpopular, except with the diehard MAGAites.
[01:09:34.080 --> 01:09:39.360]  Generally speaking, the American people are tired of this and want out as soon as possible.
[01:09:39.360 --> 01:09:43.280]  But, you know, if there was some attack that could be dropped in the lap of the Iranians,
[01:09:44.400 --> 01:09:46.720]  and the claim is made that they did this, and now, you know,
[01:09:46.720 --> 01:09:49.600]  cue the Lee Greenwood song, it's time to fight for freedom.
[01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:50.240]  Yeah.
[01:09:50.240 --> 01:09:50.800]  Something like that.
[01:09:50.800 --> 01:09:53.680]  Well, I said something along those lines, as a matter of fact,
[01:09:53.680 --> 01:09:54.800]  when this thing all kicked off.
[01:09:54.800 --> 01:09:56.880]  I said, where's our false flag?
[01:09:56.880 --> 01:09:59.760]  I mean, normally they have enough respect for public opinion
[01:09:59.760 --> 01:10:02.160]  that they would give us a false flag at the least, you know,
[01:10:02.160 --> 01:10:05.200]  and say that there's been this terrorist attack and it was done by Iran.
[01:10:05.200 --> 01:10:08.160]  So, you know, cue the Lee Greenwood, as you point out.
[01:10:08.880 --> 01:10:11.840]  But they don't even have enough respect for public opinion,
[01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:17.280]  or the Constitution, or the law, to even pretend that there is a rationale for this.
[01:10:17.280 --> 01:10:20.560]  We just did it because we wanted to, because I can do anything I want.
[01:10:21.440 --> 01:10:23.120]  I didn't do it because of Israel.
[01:10:23.120 --> 01:10:24.240]  I just did it because I want to.
[01:10:24.240 --> 01:10:25.200]  I can do whatever I want.
[01:10:25.200 --> 01:10:30.720]  And in their immense arrogance, they may have thought that they could do it successfully.
[01:10:30.720 --> 01:10:35.760]  They may have thought that by killing the Ayatollah and most of his family,
[01:10:35.760 --> 01:10:39.840]  and a bunch of Iranian generals, they believed their own propaganda,
[01:10:39.840 --> 01:10:43.840]  that the Iranians would themselves put the Lee Greenwood song on,
[01:10:43.840 --> 01:10:48.960]  and convert to, you know, U.S. style rapacious extractive capitalism,
[01:10:48.960 --> 01:10:51.680]  and become another satrap of the empire.
[01:10:51.680 --> 01:10:53.360]  Well, that didn't work out, obviously.
[01:10:53.920 --> 01:10:58.400]  And, you know, it's not only been not what they want,
[01:10:58.400 --> 01:11:03.440]  but it's been, you know, it's been really a slap in the face of the American hegemon.
[01:11:03.440 --> 01:11:08.000]  You know, you've got this routinely portrayed as sort of a backward third world place,
[01:11:08.000 --> 01:11:09.360]  which isn't true, by the way.
[01:11:09.360 --> 01:11:13.360]  You know, the Iranians are not, you know, dumb Bedouins, you know,
[01:11:13.360 --> 01:11:15.760]  out there, you know, eating scorpions.
[01:11:15.760 --> 01:11:16.320]  Not at all.
[01:11:17.360 --> 01:11:20.400]  But the signal that's been sent is that America can be confronted.
[01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:21.920]  America can eat.
[01:11:21.920 --> 01:11:27.120]  This is potentially disasters for this, the neocon deep state elite that run this country.
[01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:29.920]  And of course, the way that confrontation looks,
[01:11:29.920 --> 01:11:32.800]  they hit all the key aspects of our military bases.
[01:11:33.440 --> 01:11:36.720]  So the military bases are becoming something of an anachronism.
[01:11:38.160 --> 01:11:39.360]  Anachronism, I should say.
[01:11:40.400 --> 01:11:46.080]  They become an anachronism just like a battleship or a tank or something like that.
[01:11:46.080 --> 01:11:50.000]  You know, they have some uses, but they're really not the powerhouse that they used to be,
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:51.040]  just like a tank.
[01:11:51.040 --> 01:11:53.360]  When you look at what is going on with drones and so forth,
[01:11:53.360 --> 01:11:57.280]  it's kind of neutralized these really, really expensive tanks.
[01:11:57.280 --> 01:11:59.600]  It's neutralized the bases.
[01:11:59.600 --> 01:12:04.640]  And of course, what Iran has done is to go after military targets.
[01:12:05.280 --> 01:12:09.840]  And there's a guy who wrote a book called Bombing to Win.
[01:12:10.480 --> 01:12:12.080]  And he made that very point.
[01:12:12.080 --> 01:12:14.400]  He said, you know, when we look at all the different wars that America's had
[01:12:14.400 --> 01:12:15.600]  and how we've lost them,
[01:12:15.600 --> 01:12:19.120]  most of them is because you hear people like Pete Hegsath out there.
[01:12:19.120 --> 01:12:21.360]  And of course, Colonel McGregor said the same thing.
[01:12:22.000 --> 01:12:25.120]  He's out there boasting about the number of bombs that they've dropped
[01:12:25.120 --> 01:12:28.800]  as if that equates to winning the war.
[01:12:28.880 --> 01:12:29.840]  And it doesn't.
[01:12:29.840 --> 01:12:34.320]  And we bombed North Korea into the Stone Age, and we didn't win that war.
[01:12:34.320 --> 01:12:36.640]  Look at all the bombs that we dropped in Vietnam.
[01:12:36.640 --> 01:12:38.880]  And you start going by bombs and body counts.
[01:12:38.880 --> 01:12:46.000]  That is not a metric of victory, not by a long shot.
[01:12:46.000 --> 01:12:48.800]  Instead, bombing civilian populations.
[01:12:48.800 --> 01:12:53.200]  And the point he was making was when you do that, even in a bad regime,
[01:12:53.200 --> 01:12:56.320]  and we've now seen that with Iran, even in a bad regime,
[01:12:56.320 --> 01:12:57.760]  and Iran is a bad regime.
[01:12:57.920 --> 01:12:59.280]  Look what they've done to their own people.
[01:13:00.160 --> 01:13:02.160]  It galvanizes the people around them.
[01:13:04.080 --> 01:13:07.120]  The same regime that was attacking and arresting people,
[01:13:07.120 --> 01:13:08.800]  torturing them and killing them,
[01:13:08.800 --> 01:13:11.280]  you still had a significant number of people who,
[01:13:11.280 --> 01:13:14.000]  when Trump threatened to take out their infrastructure,
[01:13:14.000 --> 01:13:16.720]  they go out and use themselves as human shields to stop it.
[01:13:17.600 --> 01:13:19.600]  So he's had exactly the opposite effect.
[01:13:19.600 --> 01:13:22.800]  If he wanted regime change, he should have done nothing
[01:13:22.800 --> 01:13:25.760]  and let this all take its course.
[01:13:25.760 --> 01:13:30.400]  They're not about to start singing songs about America
[01:13:30.400 --> 01:13:34.560]  because they remember the Shah and all this stuff about 47 years,
[01:13:34.560 --> 01:13:37.120]  blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, that they always talk about.
[01:13:37.120 --> 01:13:41.440]  That is such an ignorant, popular view of history.
[01:13:41.440 --> 01:13:45.760]  They completely ignore the fact that we overthrew their elected president
[01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:46.800]  and installed a king.
[01:13:46.800 --> 01:13:48.720]  That's what Shah means in Persian.
[01:13:49.440 --> 01:13:52.000]  So yeah, this whole thing is just beyond stupid.
[01:13:52.560 --> 01:13:54.800]  But I just have to say, in terms of a disclaimer,
[01:13:55.520 --> 01:13:58.400]  since Trump's truth changes hour to hour,
[01:13:58.960 --> 01:14:01.600]  Eric and I are recording this on Wednesday afternoon.
[01:14:01.600 --> 01:14:03.760]  This is going to air on Friday.
[01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:07.440]  And we have to put that in there because the stuff that we say
[01:14:07.440 --> 01:14:09.680]  may be completely different by the time we get to Friday.
[01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:11.840]  Who knows what's going to be in the MOU by then?
[01:14:12.480 --> 01:14:13.840]  Yeah, I mean, they said that there's going to be
[01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.400]  some sort of a signing ceremony, I guess, on Friday.
[01:14:17.440 --> 01:14:19.040]  It seems very opaque to me.
[01:14:19.040 --> 01:14:21.040]  It seems that the Iranians may not even show up.
[01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:27.280]  And the points that have been put forward in that memorandum of understanding
[01:14:27.280 --> 01:14:32.320]  are apparently not acceptable to Trump and certainly not to Israel.
[01:14:32.960 --> 01:14:36.960]  Well, what he said, Israel has said, yeah, we're not going by this at all.
[01:14:36.960 --> 01:14:41.200]  And so when I was talking to Gerald Slenty earlier today on Wednesday,
[01:14:42.240 --> 01:14:43.200]  we were talking about this.
[01:14:43.200 --> 01:14:46.720]  And it looks like our sense of this is that he's just going to drag this out
[01:14:46.720 --> 01:14:49.680]  through the summer because he wants to buy a little bit of time.
[01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.480]  And things are getting really tight with supplies.
[01:14:52.480 --> 01:14:54.240]  So this might ease things up a little bit.
[01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.520]  And he can buy a little bit of time to get through the summer.
[01:14:57.520 --> 01:15:01.360]  And then that's that 60 days that's there, right?
[01:15:01.360 --> 01:15:02.960]  And then after that, say, well, this didn't work out.
[01:15:02.960 --> 01:15:04.240]  So we're back to war again.
[01:15:04.240 --> 01:15:06.560]  He could very easily do something like that.
[01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.680]  And when you look at the memorandum of understanding,
[01:15:10.240 --> 01:15:11.760]  there seems to be no understanding at all.
[01:15:13.520 --> 01:15:17.200]  You've got you got Trump and JD Vance saying one thing
[01:15:17.200 --> 01:15:18.720]  and you got Iran saying another.
[01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:24.480]  And by the way, when you look at the MOU that was released by the Saudi news agency,
[01:15:25.120 --> 01:15:29.200]  it confirms what the what the Iranians have been saying.
[01:15:29.200 --> 01:15:31.920]  And we saw this before with the ceasefire.
[01:15:31.920 --> 01:15:35.920]  We saw the Iranians and the Pakistanis who were moderating this said one thing.
[01:15:36.480 --> 01:15:40.400]  And they were in agreement with what was in that older agreement.
[01:15:40.400 --> 01:15:43.280]  And then the Trump administration was saying something completely different.
[01:15:43.280 --> 01:15:46.400]  And since the Trump administration is constantly lying to us,
[01:15:46.400 --> 01:15:48.960]  I would say they're probably the ones who are lying at this point in time.
[01:15:49.760 --> 01:15:52.560]  But it's completely different.
[01:15:52.560 --> 01:15:56.160]  And now, of course, as of Wednesday, the big thing that broke
[01:15:56.800 --> 01:16:00.240]  the first couple of days of this week was this 300 billion dollars that's there.
[01:16:00.880 --> 01:16:06.480]  And Trump refuted that and said, oh, all this talk about the 300 million
[01:16:07.040 --> 01:16:09.840]  is all fake news, he said, by Democrats.
[01:16:09.840 --> 01:16:11.280]  And he doesn't even know how to spell dumb.
[01:16:11.280 --> 01:16:24.400]  And then I think this is a, you know, allegedly some sort of a peace agreement
[01:16:24.400 --> 01:16:26.560]  that has one of the parties not involved.
[01:16:26.560 --> 01:16:26.880]  Yeah.
[01:16:26.880 --> 01:16:27.920]  I mean, it's a three way thing.
[01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:32.640]  So, you know, whatever the United States agrees to with Iran on the face of it is
[01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:34.320]  that's well and good, I suppose.
[01:16:34.320 --> 01:16:37.920]  But if the Israelis don't agree to it and they continue to
[01:16:37.920 --> 01:16:40.080]  bomb Lebanon as they're doing today.
[01:16:40.080 --> 01:16:40.960]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:16:41.520 --> 01:16:44.240]  The Iranians have said they're not going to tolerate that.
[01:16:44.240 --> 01:16:49.440]  They're not going to stand by and watch Israel do to Lebanon what's been done to Gaza.
[01:17:11.280 --> 01:17:13.920]  The Houston Baylor College of Medicine and UT Health.
[01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:40.240]  So as long as these Israelis are determined to continue to push into Lebanon,
[01:17:40.320 --> 01:17:45.920]  it's a near certainty that this deal, you know, it's not worth the paper it was written on,
[01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:47.120]  kind of like the Munich agreement.
[01:17:47.120 --> 01:17:50.160]  It's just a total ridiculous show and a waste of time.
[01:17:50.160 --> 01:17:51.040]  That's right.
[01:17:51.040 --> 01:17:54.400]  You point out, you say Iran was attacked not because it attacked another country,
[01:17:54.400 --> 01:17:59.120]  certainly not because it attacked the United States, but because a certain country
[01:17:59.920 --> 01:18:05.520]  cannot hide the idea, cannot abide the idea of Iran being able to defend itself
[01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:07.440]  from an attack by that country.
[01:18:07.440 --> 01:18:07.840]  That's right.
[01:18:07.840 --> 01:18:11.360]  Because there's only one country, Eric, that's got a right to exist, right?
[01:18:11.360 --> 01:18:14.480]  Nobody else has their weapons in that part of the world, apparently.
[01:18:14.480 --> 01:18:15.280]  That's right.
[01:18:15.280 --> 01:18:18.720]  Nobody else, no other state has a right to exist, according to Israel.
[01:18:18.720 --> 01:18:25.280]  And oh, by the way, no people have a right to exist except for the state of Israel.
[01:18:25.280 --> 01:18:30.320]  And so your right to exist, your idea that you're going, that we are all created equal,
[01:18:31.040 --> 01:18:33.360]  endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights,
[01:18:33.360 --> 01:18:35.600]  among those are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
[01:18:36.160 --> 01:18:43.760]  Zionism says that they are entitled to inflict death, war on people because they are in pursuit
[01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:48.320]  of greater Israel and the territory that it takes to fulfill their vision.
[01:18:48.320 --> 01:18:50.480]  And they can do that by any means necessary.
[01:18:51.600 --> 01:18:52.720]  It's quite something, isn't it?
[01:18:52.720 --> 01:18:52.960]  Yeah.
[01:18:52.960 --> 01:18:57.360]  Also, it is the official position of the United States government not to acknowledge the fact
[01:18:57.360 --> 01:18:59.760]  that the Israelis have several hundred nuclear weapons.
[01:19:00.880 --> 01:19:04.800]  And at the same time, they're up in arms about the prospect that Iran
[01:19:04.800 --> 01:19:07.520]  might be pursuing a nuclear deterrent.
[01:19:07.520 --> 01:19:09.760]  It's, it's, it's Kafkaesque.
[01:19:09.760 --> 01:19:10.240]  That's right.
[01:19:10.240 --> 01:19:12.240]  It's, it's surreal.
[01:19:12.240 --> 01:19:12.960]  That's right.
[01:19:12.960 --> 01:19:14.800]  And that is all happening in a backdrop.
[01:19:14.800 --> 01:19:20.400]  And I've played several times, Jonathan Pollard, the arguably the worst trader America's ever had
[01:19:20.400 --> 01:19:26.320]  in terms of the damage that he's done, has gone on multiple podcasts in Israel,
[01:19:26.880 --> 01:19:31.680]  bragging about the fact that the Israeli government blackmailed, nuclear blackmailed
[01:19:32.240 --> 01:19:35.840]  the United States in order to get weapons from them in 1973 with their
[01:19:35.840 --> 01:19:37.520]  war that they were having at that point in time.
[01:19:38.080 --> 01:19:42.320]  And he said, yeah, we showed them our nuclear weapons and said we're going to use them against
[01:19:42.960 --> 01:19:46.960]  Egypt if they don't give us the weapons that we wanted for our conventional war.
[01:19:47.600 --> 01:19:50.640]  And he's bragged about that on multiple podcasts.
[01:19:50.640 --> 01:19:54.800]  And the interesting thing about that, I think, is also that because we gave them,
[01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:59.040]  because we succumbed to that nuclear blackmail and gave them the weapons they wanted,
[01:19:59.120 --> 01:20:03.680]  what we got in exchange for that was the original OPEC oil embargo of 1973.
[01:20:03.680 --> 01:20:04.720]  And here we are again.
[01:20:06.160 --> 01:20:07.440]  History rhymes, doesn't it?
[01:20:08.080 --> 01:20:08.320]  Yeah.
[01:20:08.320 --> 01:20:13.440]  And you know, there's a compounding factor, at least it is to me, in that as everybody has heard,
[01:20:13.440 --> 01:20:15.200]  certainly during the first Trump administration,
[01:20:15.200 --> 01:20:20.320]  America now produces enough oil for its own needs internally.
[01:20:20.320 --> 01:20:23.280]  And yet somehow we're still paying $4 a gallon for gas.
[01:20:23.280 --> 01:20:23.600]  That's right.
[01:20:23.600 --> 01:20:24.240]  Why is that?
[01:20:24.800 --> 01:20:27.920]  Well, because a lot of it's being shipped outside of the United States.
[01:20:27.920 --> 01:20:28.240]  Yep.
[01:20:28.800 --> 01:20:31.360]  ExxonMobil and Shell can make a lot of money.
[01:20:32.000 --> 01:20:37.760]  So this whole MAGA idea that somehow this guy, Trump, is putting Americans first.
[01:20:37.760 --> 01:20:41.040]  Well, why is it that he's not doing something to assure
[01:20:41.040 --> 01:20:44.960]  that the oil that's produced in this country is used in this country?
[01:20:44.960 --> 01:20:49.680]  Goes to Americans not to prop up some other country somewhere.
[01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:54.160]  Wasn't the whole idea behind the tariffs that we have this nationalistic economy,
[01:20:54.160 --> 01:20:56.800]  that we don't want markets anywhere.
[01:20:56.800 --> 01:21:00.000]  We want to make sure that everything is in America for Americans.
[01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.760]  And he's not going to do that for oil.
[01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:04.960]  And of course, that hasn't really worked out too well for us with the tariffs either, has it?
[01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.440]  No, it's been an absolute disaster.
[01:21:07.440 --> 01:21:07.680]  Yeah.
[01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:11.680]  It's so bad that a number of vehicle manufacturers have decided to withdraw
[01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:16.080]  certain cars from this market because they can no longer sell them economically.
[01:21:16.080 --> 01:21:20.560]  A good example of that, Dodge has a little crossover called the Hornet.
[01:21:20.560 --> 01:21:25.200]  You know, they rebooted that name from, you know, which once adorned an AMC product
[01:21:25.200 --> 01:21:26.080]  back in the 70s.
[01:21:26.080 --> 01:21:29.440]  But anyway, it's a little crossover and they brought that out about a year or so ago.
[01:21:30.160 --> 01:21:31.600]  It's based on a Fiat.
[01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:33.520]  So, you know, it's European.
[01:21:33.520 --> 01:21:37.760]  And if they were to bring it here, it would get hit with a 25% tariff.
[01:21:37.760 --> 01:21:42.400]  And it would become just so expensive that basically it would be uncompetitive in the market.
[01:21:42.400 --> 01:21:45.360]  So Dodge decided to withdraw it from their lineup.
[01:21:45.360 --> 01:21:48.080]  They don't offer it for sale anymore because it's pointless to do that.
[01:21:48.080 --> 01:21:49.120]  It's just a money waster.
[01:21:49.920 --> 01:21:52.720]  There are a number of other vehicles, same thing, you know,
[01:21:52.800 --> 01:21:56.160]  including vehicles that are made in Japan, vehicles that are made in China and so on.
[01:21:56.160 --> 01:21:59.840]  All it has done is to jack up the cost that we pay for vehicles.
[01:21:59.840 --> 01:22:04.160]  The average transaction price for a car in this country is now $52,000.
[01:22:04.160 --> 01:22:07.920]  It's gone up $2,000 over the course of a little more than a year.
[01:22:07.920 --> 01:22:08.720]  It was $50,000.
[01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:11.920]  And people were appalled and aghast that people are spending what?
[01:22:11.920 --> 01:22:13.200]  $50,000 for a car?
[01:22:13.200 --> 01:22:14.960]  Well, it's up to $52,000 now.
[01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:17.440]  Well, even if you make the thing completely here in the United States,
[01:22:17.440 --> 01:22:20.320]  you've got to pay higher prices for the components that you have to bring in.
[01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:24.080]  Because we don't have, you know, he jumps into this thing with this
[01:22:24.080 --> 01:22:27.840]  grand idea that is idiotic in the first place.
[01:22:27.840 --> 01:22:30.560]  And then he says, but we're going to be completely self-sufficient.
[01:22:30.560 --> 01:22:34.000]  Well, if you're going to do it that way, you need to have a path to get there.
[01:22:34.000 --> 01:22:38.960]  You can't just declare that you are self-sufficient and jump off the roof.
[01:22:41.120 --> 01:22:42.640]  Which is what he's done basically.
[01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:45.120]  And it works, I guess, for what men can call the bourgeoisie.
[01:22:45.680 --> 01:22:48.480]  He simplified catchphrase types of policies.
[01:22:48.480 --> 01:22:52.160]  A good example of it is a few months back, he was talking about tiny cars.
[01:22:52.160 --> 01:22:54.160]  We're just going to have tiny cars, you know?
[01:22:55.520 --> 01:22:55.840]  Okay.
[01:22:55.840 --> 01:22:58.880]  But what he meant was these small, inexpensive little cars
[01:22:58.880 --> 01:23:03.520]  that are available in other markets, Asia, Central South America, and so on.
[01:23:03.520 --> 01:23:04.800]  And yeah, great.
[01:23:04.800 --> 01:23:05.600]  That's a wonderful idea.
[01:23:05.600 --> 01:23:07.520]  There are a lot of people who'd like to be able to buy
[01:23:08.080 --> 01:23:11.040]  a little $15,000 basic little car.
[01:23:11.040 --> 01:23:11.540]  Great.
[01:23:12.160 --> 01:23:13.280]  But whatever happened to that?
[01:23:13.280 --> 01:23:13.920]  Absolutely nothing.
[01:23:13.920 --> 01:23:15.760]  Because it's illegal to bring them into the country.
[01:23:15.760 --> 01:23:18.320]  It's illegal to sell them because they don't comply
[01:23:18.320 --> 01:23:21.520]  with all of the federal folder, all of the various requirements
[01:23:21.520 --> 01:23:23.600]  that cars have to comply with in this country.
[01:23:23.600 --> 01:23:26.880]  So, you know, an intelligent approach, if he'd been serious, would have been to say,
[01:23:26.880 --> 01:23:30.560]  look, what we've got to do is get rid of these regulations that make it impossible,
[01:23:30.560 --> 01:23:33.680]  illegal to sell these kinds of vehicles in this country.
[01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:35.120]  That's what I'm going to do as president.
[01:23:35.120 --> 01:23:40.160]  I'm going to pursue legislation to get those obstacles out of the way of any manufacturer
[01:23:40.160 --> 01:23:44.160]  that would like to bring to this country a tiny car and offer it for sale.
[01:23:44.160 --> 01:23:47.680]  So the American people have access to inexpensive alternatives.
[01:23:47.680 --> 01:23:50.560]  But that's not a simple soundbite type of policy.
[01:23:50.560 --> 01:23:51.360]  So that's what Trump does.
[01:23:52.000 --> 01:23:56.080]  He'll say tiny cars one week and then he'll come up with some other thing the next week.
[01:23:56.080 --> 01:23:57.840]  And it all just kind of goes away.
[01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.800]  And then it's replaced by a new catchphrase soundbite.
[01:24:00.800 --> 01:24:04.800]  And I guess that appeals to the, you know, it's awful to have to put it this way,
[01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:09.120]  but like a certain low IQ kind of person who just doesn't have a long term memory
[01:24:09.120 --> 01:24:12.480]  and doesn't go, wait a minute, didn't you say last week this
[01:24:12.480 --> 01:24:16.000]  and now you're saying this week that and these two things, they conflict.
[01:24:16.000 --> 01:24:19.760]  And by the way, whatever happened to this $5,000 rebates we were supposed to get for,
[01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:24.160]  you know, Doge and cutting out all the inefficiency and waste in the government,
[01:24:24.720 --> 01:24:26.560]  people have no memory in this country anymore.
[01:24:26.560 --> 01:24:29.200]  And a lot of people don't want to be confronted with the memory.
[01:24:29.200 --> 01:24:32.480]  A lot of these people, when you point these things out to them,
[01:24:32.480 --> 01:24:36.480]  they draw themselves up and make all sorts of excuses and change the subject.
[01:24:36.480 --> 01:24:37.920]  They just don't want to deal with it.
[01:24:37.920 --> 01:24:40.400]  They say you have Trump arrangement syndrome.
[01:24:40.400 --> 01:24:41.040]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:24:41.040 --> 01:24:41.600]  Yeah.
[01:24:41.600 --> 01:24:42.160]  Yeah.
[01:24:42.160 --> 01:24:44.640]  Just like that example you gave, the tiny cars, right?
[01:24:44.640 --> 01:24:45.680]  Well, what does that mean?
[01:24:45.920 --> 01:24:47.760]  That means different things to different people.
[01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:53.520]  So he uses this deliberate ambiguity to confuse people and people can read into it,
[01:24:53.520 --> 01:24:54.080]  whatever they want.
[01:24:54.080 --> 01:24:56.880]  I remember the end of the Obama administration, you had,
[01:24:58.320 --> 01:24:59.120]  let's see, who was it?
[01:24:59.120 --> 01:25:04.080]  It was Harry Belafonte, I think, who was very heavily on the left.
[01:25:04.640 --> 01:25:07.040]  And he said, we don't know who this guy is, Obama.
[01:25:07.040 --> 01:25:10.400]  He said, we just projected onto him what we wanted him to be.
[01:25:10.400 --> 01:25:14.240]  I thought that is precisely what people are doing with Trump.
[01:25:14.320 --> 01:25:15.680]  They don't know what he's about.
[01:25:15.680 --> 01:25:18.560]  I mean, I've had people who do know better and who should know better
[01:25:18.560 --> 01:25:23.520]  and who do know better defend his tariffs to me on this program and say,
[01:25:23.520 --> 01:25:28.880]  well, as people have said, you don't take Trump literally, you take him seriously.
[01:25:28.880 --> 01:25:31.280]  And it's like, what really does that mean?
[01:25:31.280 --> 01:25:35.360]  Does that mean that he's just going to lie and obfuscate about what he's going to do?
[01:25:36.480 --> 01:25:40.240]  And yes, you do take him seriously because he's got a lot of power, unfortunately.
[01:25:40.800 --> 01:25:42.880]  That power should be taken away from him.
[01:25:42.880 --> 01:25:46.160]  But yeah, he is a serious problem.
[01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:49.680]  But you can't take him literally because he's literally a liar.
[01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:51.760]  He lies about everything.
[01:25:52.560 --> 01:25:54.560]  He's almost, as you say, he's never specific.
[01:25:54.560 --> 01:25:55.920]  And that's his trick.
[01:25:55.920 --> 01:25:57.440]  He has this persona.
[01:25:57.440 --> 01:26:02.720]  When he's in top form, he comes across as sort of this hail fellow well-met,
[01:26:02.720 --> 01:26:07.600]  like a regular guy, even though he's a billionaire New York real estate developer.
[01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:08.960]  It's like Clinton did.
[01:26:08.960 --> 01:26:12.800]  Clinton had that Bubba quality, like just a good old boy from the South,
[01:26:12.800 --> 01:26:16.560]  who comes across like a regular guy that you could sit down and have a beer with.
[01:26:17.840 --> 01:26:22.560]  Trump deliberately presents and amplifies that sort of bluto persona
[01:26:22.560 --> 01:26:25.360]  because he knows it has a certain appeal out there.
[01:26:26.160 --> 01:26:31.280]  And people, as you say, they sort of vaguely hear things that sound good to them.
[01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:33.520]  They're vague, but they sound good.
[01:26:33.520 --> 01:26:37.280]  And their brain starts to concretize that.
[01:26:37.280 --> 01:26:40.800]  And they think, well, just because I heard this, it must mean that.
[01:26:40.800 --> 01:26:44.160]  And they think that Trump is going to give a small government, less invasive,
[01:26:44.160 --> 01:26:45.520]  less expensive government.
[01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:47.680]  He's going to cut the regulatory system.
[01:26:47.680 --> 01:26:50.080]  He's going to do all these wonderful things for Americans.
[01:26:50.640 --> 01:26:54.160]  In other words, the people try to put specifics onto Trump's vagueness.
[01:26:56.720 --> 01:27:01.920]  Yeah, they fill in the gaps and they create Trump in the image that they want him to be.
[01:27:01.920 --> 01:27:04.160]  And you mentioned get rid of regulations.
[01:27:04.160 --> 01:27:08.080]  I said from the very beginning, if you want to bring manufacturing back,
[01:27:08.080 --> 01:27:09.840]  get rid of a lot of regulations.
[01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:13.840]  Instead, what he does is he adds more regulations and he adds
[01:27:13.840 --> 01:27:17.200]  more expense and more inflation and more taxes with tariffs
[01:27:18.000 --> 01:27:21.360]  because there are taxes and regulation involved in all that.
[01:27:22.000 --> 01:27:25.360]  So really, if you want to bring back manufacturing,
[01:27:26.000 --> 01:27:31.280]  put the kind of environment there where manufacturing prospered in the United States.
[01:27:31.920 --> 01:27:35.920]  He tries to say, well, we had these periods of growth when we had tariffs.
[01:27:36.480 --> 01:27:41.040]  The tariffs are small enough that that was the only taxes that we had.
[01:27:41.040 --> 01:27:46.240]  And they were small enough that people could still live their lives in a productive way.
[01:27:46.240 --> 01:27:48.800]  The problem is the massive burden that we have.
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[01:28:19.760 --> 01:28:23.120]  La temporada de fútbol más grande del mundo llega a Houston,
[01:28:23.120 --> 01:28:25.680]  pero más tráfico significa más accidentes.
[01:28:25.680 --> 01:28:28.320]  Cuando alguien comete una falta contra ti en la carretera,
[01:28:28.320 --> 01:28:33.840]  háblale a Adam Ramsey, 281-888-888.
[01:28:33.840 --> 01:28:35.440]  CallTheRam.com
[01:28:35.440 --> 01:28:38.640]  And I think that's the other issue that is going to catch up to him.
[01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:42.400]  And that is what is happening with the debt, the overall debt.
[01:28:42.400 --> 01:28:46.080]  You know, I joked earlier today, I said, they love to say,
[01:28:46.080 --> 01:28:48.160]  JD Vance says, yeah, we got all the cards.
[01:28:48.160 --> 01:28:50.320]  I said, yeah, they got all the credit cards.
[01:28:50.320 --> 01:28:51.920]  Oh, that's brilliant.
[01:28:51.920 --> 01:28:54.160]  And they've maxed them out.
[01:28:54.960 --> 01:28:56.560]  And guess who's going to have to pay the bill?
[01:28:56.560 --> 01:28:58.640]  Us. We're the ones who are going to have to pay for that.
[01:28:59.280 --> 01:29:01.200]  Ultimately, Trump is a corporate guy.
[01:29:01.840 --> 01:29:04.640]  He's not a free enterprise kind of a guy.
[01:29:04.640 --> 01:29:08.560]  And that's why this whole tiny car thing is to go back to that is never going to happen
[01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:11.920]  because the corporations, the major car companies,
[01:29:11.920 --> 01:29:17.280]  like the fact that inexpensive alternatives are excluded from this market.
[01:29:17.280 --> 01:29:20.320]  So what they want is for you when you go to a dealership
[01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:23.360]  to get pigeonholed into buying the $50,000 vehicle.
[01:29:24.960 --> 01:29:26.720]  Can you imagine if you did have the alternative?
[01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.920]  Let's say that you could go to a Toyota dealer because you need a truck.
[01:29:30.880 --> 01:29:34.480]  And on this side of the lot, they've got the Tacomas all lined up,
[01:29:35.520 --> 01:29:37.200]  starting around $35,000.
[01:29:37.200 --> 01:29:40.000]  And probably most of the ones on the lot are going to be $45,000
[01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:41.920]  because they loaded them up with everything.
[01:29:41.920 --> 01:29:46.320]  But then on the other side of the lot, they've got some Hilux champs over here.
[01:29:47.040 --> 01:29:50.080]  And the little trucks are available for $15,000 or $16,000.
[01:29:51.200 --> 01:29:54.400]  Even if you don't buy one, the salesman knows you could.
[01:29:55.120 --> 01:29:57.280]  The fact that there's that alternative there,
[01:29:57.280 --> 01:30:02.160]  I think, is going to put positive pressure a good way on the salesman and then on Toyota
[01:30:02.160 --> 01:30:04.080]  to champ down the prices.
[01:30:04.080 --> 01:30:06.800]  But when there's no alternative, you want a vehicle, you need a truck,
[01:30:06.800 --> 01:30:07.680]  this is what you got.
[01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:08.480]  That's all there is.
[01:30:09.200 --> 01:30:10.400]  They don't want that.
[01:30:10.400 --> 01:30:12.880]  They want you to get into a six-year loan
[01:30:12.880 --> 01:30:15.920]  where you're spending $800 a month on a car payment.
[01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:18.720]  They don't want you to be able to buy a vehicle in three years,
[01:30:18.720 --> 01:30:20.560]  like it was once common in this country,
[01:30:20.560 --> 01:30:23.200]  which you could do if it was a $15,000 vehicle.
[01:30:23.200 --> 01:30:26.800]  And you don't want to be paying $250 a month for that thing, too.
[01:30:26.800 --> 01:30:27.520]  They don't want that.
[01:30:28.080 --> 01:30:29.040]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:30:29.040 --> 01:30:32.720]  Yeah, I was going back and rearranging all of our old photographs,
[01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:34.800]  and I'm looking at the old cars and I'm thinking,
[01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:36.880]  and I paid that much for that one and that much for that one.
[01:30:36.880 --> 01:30:38.160]  It's like, this is crazy.
[01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:42.480]  I thought it was a lot of money when I paid $12,000 for a car.
[01:30:42.480 --> 01:30:45.280]  When I paid $4,000 for a car, I thought it was a lot of money.
[01:30:45.280 --> 01:30:47.680]  And it's like, that's just a joke today.
[01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:51.200]  You can't get a rent for most of these prices that are like that.
[01:30:51.200 --> 01:30:53.680]  And so you talk about him being inflation man.
[01:30:53.680 --> 01:30:55.360]  I love inflation, said Trump.
[01:30:55.360 --> 01:30:58.480]  Well, he loves it so much, he's giving it to us in spades, isn't he?
[01:30:59.120 --> 01:30:59.760]  He is, really.
[01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:03.440]  That's, to me, I don't know what to make of that,
[01:31:03.440 --> 01:31:08.000]  whether it's a symptom of incipient dementia
[01:31:08.000 --> 01:31:10.880]  or just evidence of his callous mean streak.
[01:31:11.920 --> 01:31:14.000]  People give him great credit for being politically savvy.
[01:31:14.000 --> 01:31:16.800]  Well, that is the most politically stupid thing imaginable.
[01:31:16.800 --> 01:31:17.200]  That's right.
[01:31:17.200 --> 01:31:18.800]  No matter what you think internally.
[01:31:18.800 --> 01:31:23.440]  To publicly say, I love inflation or I don't care about affordability.
[01:31:23.440 --> 01:31:25.120]  I don't care what the cost of getting it.
[01:31:25.600 --> 01:31:30.640]  How does he think that resonates with people who are literally facing the prospect
[01:31:30.640 --> 01:31:33.440]  of potentially not being able to put food on the table
[01:31:33.440 --> 01:31:35.200]  and fill the tank at the same time?
[01:31:35.760 --> 01:31:37.280]  Yeah, I don't think he's savvy.
[01:31:37.280 --> 01:31:41.920]  I think the thing that he leans into is he wants people to fear him.
[01:31:41.920 --> 01:31:44.160]  He wants to show people that he's got power.
[01:31:44.160 --> 01:31:47.840]  He does that by insulting, especially the G7 leaders.
[01:31:47.840 --> 01:31:49.760]  There was an article talking about how,
[01:31:49.760 --> 01:31:52.320]  as he is flying out to meet all these people for the G7.
[01:31:52.320 --> 01:31:53.520]  Here's what he said about this one.
[01:31:53.520 --> 01:31:54.640]  Here's what he said about that one.
[01:31:54.800 --> 01:31:55.840]  It's pretty amazing.
[01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:59.200]  You go back and look at the litany of things that he has said
[01:31:59.200 --> 01:32:03.520]  and the way that he's embarrassed and gone out of his way to embarrass these leaders.
[01:32:03.520 --> 01:32:06.800]  To think now he's got to meet this group of six other people,
[01:32:06.800 --> 01:32:10.240]  all of whom he's tried his best to publicly humiliate.
[01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.040]  So that really is, I think, more than anything, it's a power play.
[01:32:15.040 --> 01:32:17.280]  I talk about his geopolitics.
[01:32:17.280 --> 01:32:20.480]  I said, it's not really geopolitics, it's ego politics.
[01:32:20.480 --> 01:32:23.760]  This is really about, I'm the boss of everybody.
[01:32:24.400 --> 01:32:25.040]  Fear me.
[01:32:25.040 --> 01:32:28.240]  This is kind of a mafia attitude that he has,
[01:32:28.240 --> 01:32:31.600]  which I think he probably picked up from being in New York City
[01:32:31.600 --> 01:32:34.560]  and being in the mafia groups with the casinos and so forth.
[01:32:34.560 --> 01:32:35.920]  Everybody talks about him being a builder.
[01:32:35.920 --> 01:32:37.600]  Yeah, he's John Gotti.
[01:32:37.600 --> 01:32:40.320]  He's John Gotti, and a more current reference would be Tony Soprano.
[01:32:43.120 --> 01:32:43.680]  What was that show?
[01:32:43.680 --> 01:32:44.400]  I can't remember the name.
[01:32:45.680 --> 01:32:46.180]  Sopranos?
[01:32:47.440 --> 01:32:48.080]  Yeah, Sopranos.
[01:32:48.080 --> 01:32:48.720]  Right, exactly.
[01:32:48.720 --> 01:32:49.280]  Sorry.
[01:32:49.280 --> 01:32:50.640]  I guess I'm getting dimension too.
[01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:54.320]  The eponymous Tony Soprano.
[01:32:54.880 --> 01:32:57.200]  I never watched it, but I knew that.
[01:32:58.800 --> 01:33:01.200]  The funny thing about him is that I just look at him,
[01:33:01.200 --> 01:33:02.640]  I see an organized crime figure.
[01:33:03.280 --> 01:33:05.440]  That's all I see from Donald Trump.
[01:33:05.440 --> 01:33:06.560]  I don't see a builder.
[01:33:06.560 --> 01:33:08.800]  I don't see an entrepreneur.
[01:33:08.800 --> 01:33:12.880]  I just see somebody who's a criminal, a mafia don.
[01:33:12.880 --> 01:33:13.440]  And that's really what he is.
[01:33:13.440 --> 01:33:14.160]  He's a family.
[01:33:15.280 --> 01:33:16.640]  As a barometer of that,
[01:33:16.640 --> 01:33:18.800]  Barron Trump, who is barely 20 years old,
[01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:22.480]  is worth, from what I read, $150 million.
[01:33:23.840 --> 01:33:25.440]  How does a barely 20-year-old kid,
[01:33:25.440 --> 01:33:27.440]  who to my knowledge hasn't produced anything,
[01:33:27.440 --> 01:33:28.720]  he's not Steve Jobs,
[01:33:28.720 --> 01:33:29.840]  like what's his invention?
[01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.200]  What company did he found?
[01:33:32.080 --> 01:33:33.680]  He has $150 million.
[01:33:34.320 --> 01:33:36.320]  Well, look at the way these guys are just openly.
[01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:38.000]  There's another article I had,
[01:33:38.000 --> 01:33:42.160]  and it's like here's all of Trump's 36,000 trades that he did.
[01:33:43.200 --> 01:33:46.000]  This guy is manipulating the market in the open.
[01:33:46.640 --> 01:33:48.640]  In the past, we've had a lot of people who are criminals,
[01:33:48.640 --> 01:33:51.040]  and they tried to cover it up, and they tried to deny it.
[01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:53.200]  They don't even care about that anymore.
[01:33:53.200 --> 01:33:54.880]  We saw what happened with the Bidens,
[01:33:54.880 --> 01:34:00.240]  and Hunter winds up being on the board of an oil company.
[01:34:00.240 --> 01:34:01.440]  Where did he get that expertise?
[01:34:01.440 --> 01:34:02.400]  Does he have any expertise?
[01:34:02.400 --> 01:34:03.600]  No, because he's not there
[01:34:03.600 --> 01:34:05.920]  because he knows anything about oil, at Burisma.
[01:34:05.920 --> 01:34:08.880]  He's there because of his dad being the president.
[01:34:08.880 --> 01:34:12.640]  And we see this in spades with Eric and Don Jr.,
[01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:15.200]  and with Jared Kushner, and of course even with Barron.
[01:34:15.200 --> 01:34:16.000]  That's happening now.
[01:34:16.000 --> 01:34:18.640]  They're going around using their influence
[01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:23.040]  to push their way into these various business arrangements
[01:34:23.040 --> 01:34:25.120]  with foreign governments.
[01:34:25.120 --> 01:34:27.520]  I mean, it's the most amazing corruption.
[01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:31.520]  If the Democrats get charged of the Congress,
[01:34:31.520 --> 01:34:33.520]  it's going to be a target-rich environment.
[01:34:34.160 --> 01:34:35.760]  They're going to have a problem deciding
[01:34:35.760 --> 01:34:37.920]  which one of the charges that they want to bring
[01:34:37.920 --> 01:34:39.040]  against him to impeach him.
[01:34:39.040 --> 01:34:40.560]  I mean, there's too many choices.
[01:34:40.560 --> 01:34:44.160]  Ernest, Trump, though, this is an equal opportunity scene.
[01:34:44.160 --> 01:34:46.400]  The whole institution of government now has gotten
[01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:48.240]  so blatantly egregiously corrupt.
[01:34:49.040 --> 01:34:50.240]  It's unsalvageable.
[01:34:50.240 --> 01:34:50.720]  It is.
[01:34:50.720 --> 01:34:52.240]  It's depraved beyond imagining.
[01:34:52.800 --> 01:34:54.720]  And that ties into this whole, all this Epstein stuff.
[01:34:54.720 --> 01:34:56.400]  I think the reason they shoved that under the rug
[01:34:56.400 --> 01:34:58.560]  is because it involves all of them.
[01:34:58.560 --> 01:35:00.720]  It's not like, oh, it's those guys over here.
[01:35:00.720 --> 01:35:01.840]  It's all of them.
[01:35:01.840 --> 01:35:04.880]  And they've circled wagons to protect their mutual interests.
[01:35:04.880 --> 01:35:06.000]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:35:06.000 --> 01:35:06.500]  Absolutely.
[01:35:07.040 --> 01:35:09.200]  Well, let's get off of politics a little bit
[01:35:09.200 --> 01:35:12.160]  and let's talk a little bit about cars
[01:35:12.160 --> 01:35:15.280]  because that's one of the things I really love about your car site.
[01:35:15.280 --> 01:35:19.680]  And that is, you understand that liberty and mobility,
[01:35:21.200 --> 01:35:24.160]  to paraphrase Jefferson, what he said about life and liberty,
[01:35:24.160 --> 01:35:28.240]  he said, you can destroy them, but you cannot disjoin them.
[01:35:28.240 --> 01:35:29.280]  They go together.
[01:35:29.280 --> 01:35:32.080]  And I think the same thing is true of liberty and mobility.
[01:35:33.200 --> 01:35:34.800]  So you talk about politics at your site,
[01:35:34.800 --> 01:35:38.000]  but you also talk about older cars
[01:35:38.000 --> 01:35:41.360]  and as an example of why things don't have to be
[01:35:41.360 --> 01:35:42.480]  the way that they are right now.
[01:35:42.480 --> 01:35:46.640]  Here's a good example, 53 miles per gallon and no hybrid required.
[01:35:46.640 --> 01:35:47.600]  What are you talking about there?
[01:35:48.400 --> 01:35:51.520]  Well, sometimes I think it's good to glance up in the rear view mirror
[01:35:51.520 --> 01:35:54.400]  and look at the past because it helps us to understand
[01:35:54.400 --> 01:35:55.920]  what's going on in the present.
[01:35:55.920 --> 01:35:58.640]  And particularly, I do these kinds of articles
[01:35:58.640 --> 01:36:00.800]  so that young people, people who are in their 20s today,
[01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:03.440]  who have no memory of what we're talking about,
[01:36:03.440 --> 01:36:07.120]  will know that, for example, in the early 80s,
[01:36:07.120 --> 01:36:12.560]  it was common for cars to get 40 or even 50 miles per gallon back then,
[01:36:12.560 --> 01:36:13.680]  40 years ago.
[01:36:13.680 --> 01:36:16.160]  And here we are 40 years later.
[01:36:16.160 --> 01:36:20.640]  And the only cars that can match that are cars like the Prius Hybrid.
[01:36:20.640 --> 01:36:25.520]  They have to have that hybrid adjunct in order to achieve parity
[01:36:25.520 --> 01:36:29.360]  with what was possible, which was abundant 40 years ago.
[01:36:30.160 --> 01:36:33.360]  Haven't had any technological advances in the last 40 years?
[01:36:33.360 --> 01:36:36.880]  Well, yeah, but we've also had weight advances
[01:36:37.120 --> 01:36:38.320]  in the last 40 years.
[01:36:39.040 --> 01:36:43.520]  The average car's curb weight is about 500 pounds heavier today
[01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:45.760]  than it was back in the early 80s.
[01:36:45.760 --> 01:36:48.240]  And it takes energy to move weight.
[01:36:48.240 --> 01:36:49.680]  That's the bottom line.
[01:36:49.680 --> 01:36:52.080]  So these heavier cars, they have all the advantages
[01:36:52.080 --> 01:36:54.640]  of electronic fuel injection, computer engine management,
[01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:58.800]  overdrive transmissions, low rolling resistance things,
[01:36:58.800 --> 01:36:59.680]  all of that.
[01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:02.880]  And yet they still use, comparatively speaking,
[01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:04.560]  a lot of fuel because they're heavy.
[01:37:05.280 --> 01:37:08.800]  The current Prius, I think its curb weight is something like 3,400 pounds.
[01:37:08.800 --> 01:37:10.640]  Now, to put that into some context,
[01:37:10.640 --> 01:37:15.280]  the vehicle I focused on in that article was the 82 Dodge 400,
[01:37:15.280 --> 01:37:18.240]  which was sort of an upmarket version of the Aries K car.
[01:37:18.240 --> 01:37:19.760]  Some will remember the Aries K car.
[01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:24.720]  That was Lee Iacocca's baby that they introduced to save the corporation.
[01:37:24.720 --> 01:37:27.680]  It was considered a mid-sized car back then, but it was very light.
[01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:29.520]  It weighed about 2,600 pounds.
[01:37:29.520 --> 01:37:30.560]  That's a huge difference.
[01:37:31.120 --> 01:37:34.320]  This is a family car that weighed that much less.
[01:37:34.480 --> 01:37:37.520]  As a result, even though it still had a carburetor, if you can believe it,
[01:37:37.520 --> 01:37:41.360]  it had either a three-speed automatic or a four-speed manual,
[01:37:41.360 --> 01:37:43.120]  neither of which had overdrive.
[01:37:43.120 --> 01:37:49.040]  Nonetheless, it was capable of getting Prius equivalent gas mileage way back then.
[01:37:49.040 --> 01:37:53.680]  Now, you can only imagine today if it were possible for a car company
[01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:58.240]  to build a modern day analog of something like an Aries K car,
[01:37:58.240 --> 01:38:02.960]  light and with low rolling resistance tires and with fuel injection
[01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.240]  and with an overdrive transmission, we would have cars that get 60,
[01:38:06.240 --> 01:38:09.520]  65 miles per gallon routinely without the hybrid stuff.
[01:38:10.640 --> 01:38:13.200]  I'm not trying to curb stomp the hybrids.
[01:38:13.200 --> 01:38:15.040]  I'm saying it's kind of a crutch.
[01:38:15.840 --> 01:38:19.600]  Hybrids have their place, but they also add weight complexity and cost.
[01:38:19.600 --> 01:38:22.000]  They're not necessary to have good gas mileage.
[01:38:22.000 --> 01:38:25.520]  What's necessary to have good gas mileage is lightweight
[01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:28.480]  and an engine that's smaller and burns less gas
[01:38:28.480 --> 01:38:32.480]  because it doesn't need to be that big or powerful to pull all that weight around.
[01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:36.960]  Of course, I'm looking at this and thinking 1982 Dodge.
[01:38:37.760 --> 01:38:38.640]  I had an 81.
[01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:41.600]  I hate to admit it, but I bought a French car.
[01:38:43.600 --> 01:38:45.120]  We learn lessons as we get older.
[01:38:45.120 --> 01:38:46.800]  Was it a Fuego?
[01:38:46.800 --> 01:38:48.560]  It was a Peugeot.
[01:38:50.880 --> 01:38:51.600]  But it was diesel.
[01:38:51.600 --> 01:38:55.920]  Now, the diesel engine was solid and I got tremendous fuel economy.
[01:38:55.920 --> 01:38:57.520]  I got in the high 30s off of that.
[01:38:58.880 --> 01:39:01.280]  And yet, it was a very simple engine.
[01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:04.320]  The French had to make it simple because everything else that they made
[01:39:04.320 --> 01:39:06.720]  that had at least a bit of complexity to it broke.
[01:39:10.080 --> 01:39:11.920]  I've had a British car before.
[01:39:11.920 --> 01:39:13.760]  I had a Triumph Spitfire,
[01:39:13.760 --> 01:39:17.120]  but I've never had an electrical system that was as bad as the Peugeots.
[01:39:19.440 --> 01:39:22.880]  The car totaled itself, catching fire while it was turned off
[01:39:22.880 --> 01:39:28.560]  and parked in a parking lot because of a short or something that was in it
[01:39:28.560 --> 01:39:30.160]  when it was about two years old.
[01:39:30.160 --> 01:39:34.240]  And the cigarette lighter shorted out and just melted down right down through the dash.
[01:39:35.280 --> 01:39:37.840]  When we called the insurance company, they just totaled it.
[01:39:37.840 --> 01:39:39.760]  It's not worth trying to fix this thing.
[01:39:39.760 --> 01:39:41.440]  But it was...
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[01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:15.280]  Houston, la temporada de fútbol ya está aquí,
[01:40:15.280 --> 01:40:18.080]  pero un gran accidente de trailer no es un juego.
[01:40:18.080 --> 01:40:20.400]  Los jugadores de fútbol pueden tirarse del campo,
[01:40:20.400 --> 01:40:22.960]  pero no hay nada falso sobre tus lesiones.
[01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:27.440]  Llama al 281-888-888.
[01:40:27.440 --> 01:40:29.760]  You know, you and I have talked over and over again
[01:40:29.760 --> 01:40:32.320]  about how diesel became public enemy number one,
[01:40:32.880 --> 01:40:34.800]  and how they had to come after Volkswagen,
[01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.280]  even though they had these wonderfully reliable,
[01:40:37.280 --> 01:40:40.560]  extended fuel economy cars and shut that down.
[01:40:41.280 --> 01:40:41.680]  They just...
[01:40:42.480 --> 01:40:43.600]  That's not what they want.
[01:40:43.600 --> 01:40:46.320]  As a matter of fact, as you and I have both talked about many times,
[01:40:46.320 --> 01:40:49.040]  we both know they don't want us to have private cars.
[01:40:49.040 --> 01:40:50.320]  That's the bottom line.
[01:40:51.440 --> 01:40:52.320]  Oh, absolutely it is.
[01:40:52.480 --> 01:40:55.040]  They've largely succeeded with regard to diesel engines.
[01:40:55.040 --> 01:40:58.320]  I'm trying to access my memory core here.
[01:40:58.320 --> 01:41:00.560]  I don't think currently, 2026,
[01:41:00.560 --> 01:41:04.640]  there's a single 2026 model year passenger car, not a truck,
[01:41:05.280 --> 01:41:08.560]  that's even available with a diesel engine in this country anymore.
[01:41:08.560 --> 01:41:10.640]  And I think there are a handful of trucks
[01:41:11.600 --> 01:41:14.720]  that are not in the 25, 3500 class,
[01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:18.080]  heavy duty class, 1500s and so on,
[01:41:18.080 --> 01:41:19.520]  that still have a diesel engine.
[01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:21.120]  And you probably don't want it anyway.
[01:41:21.120 --> 01:41:24.800]  The diesel engine has gotten to be more complicated than a gas engine.
[01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:26.320]  Yeah, because the government mandates.
[01:41:26.320 --> 01:41:27.440]  Yeah, they've complicated.
[01:41:27.440 --> 01:41:28.240]  They've got the...
[01:41:28.240 --> 01:41:34.240]  What? Mercedes had that blue thing or whatever to get rid of some kind of rare...
[01:41:34.240 --> 01:41:35.280]  Blue tech.
[01:41:35.280 --> 01:41:36.000]  What's that?
[01:41:36.000 --> 01:41:37.520]  The blue tech, yeah, blue tech.
[01:41:37.520 --> 01:41:43.360]  They all now have particulate traps and DEF, diesel exhaust, fluid injection and so on.
[01:41:43.360 --> 01:41:46.480]  And this is something that you don't get with a gas engine.
[01:41:46.480 --> 01:41:48.960]  And it's been a role reversal.
[01:41:48.960 --> 01:41:51.520]  One of the great attractions of the diesel engine in the past
[01:41:51.520 --> 01:41:55.280]  was that it was an inherently simpler engine, required less maintenance.
[01:41:55.280 --> 01:41:58.240]  You didn't need to tune ups ever on those old diesels.
[01:41:58.800 --> 01:42:01.600]  And they would run for three, 400,000 miles routinely.
[01:42:02.480 --> 01:42:05.840]  And of course, another thing too, was that diesel fuel used to cost less than gas.
[01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:08.720]  A lot of young people who are listening to us may not know that,
[01:42:08.720 --> 01:42:10.800]  but diesel was cheaper.
[01:42:10.800 --> 01:42:14.320]  So you paid less for the fuel, the fuel took you farther
[01:42:14.320 --> 01:42:17.520]  and the engine cost you less both to buy and to maintain.
[01:42:17.600 --> 01:42:20.480]  Well, they systematically destroyed all those advantages.
[01:42:20.480 --> 01:42:24.560]  So there's very little advantage anymore to buying a diesel, which is what they want.
[01:42:24.560 --> 01:42:27.760]  The last thing that they want, if they had not been involved in this,
[01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:30.960]  you could go back again, back to the late 70s, early 80s.
[01:42:30.960 --> 01:42:34.400]  Volkswagen at that time was selling the Rabbit diesel on a pickup variant
[01:42:34.400 --> 01:42:39.440]  that was based on the Rabbit with the diesel that got nearly 60 miles per gallon back then.
[01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:42.160]  And as you point out, the fuel was cheaper.
[01:42:42.160 --> 01:42:43.920]  That was one of the selling points for us as well.
[01:42:44.320 --> 01:42:48.880]  That plus, including the simplicity and the durability and things like that.
[01:42:48.880 --> 01:42:51.360]  And I remember in the early 80s, when we looked at it,
[01:42:52.400 --> 01:42:55.520]  all of the Mercedes were diesel except for one model.
[01:42:55.520 --> 01:42:58.400]  And that was like the S class or whatever, you know, there.
[01:42:58.400 --> 01:43:03.280]  And I think the two-seater sports car, those are the only two gasoline engines that they had.
[01:43:03.280 --> 01:43:06.320]  Every other car was diesel, but we couldn't afford a Mercedes.
[01:43:06.320 --> 01:43:09.520]  So we looked at it and, you know, they would have,
[01:43:09.520 --> 01:43:13.760]  the Peugeot people would sell a lot of their cars in the third world, right?
[01:43:13.760 --> 01:43:16.800]  So people would get these things in Africa and they would drive them for 30 years,
[01:43:16.800 --> 01:43:18.560]  you know, and so on and so forth.
[01:43:18.560 --> 01:43:20.400]  All right, well, let's give that a try, you know.
[01:43:20.400 --> 01:43:25.200]  But it had everything else in the car, just fell apart, you know.
[01:43:25.200 --> 01:43:29.200]  But I remember when it was a lot cheaper than even regular gas.
[01:43:29.760 --> 01:43:33.040]  And then all of a sudden it jumped up and it was basically
[01:43:33.040 --> 01:43:36.960]  mandates from the federal government in terms of things that they had to add to the fuel.
[01:43:37.840 --> 01:43:40.480]  Yeah, and to the engines and to the vehicles.
[01:43:40.480 --> 01:43:46.000]  Then even when manufacturers managed to comply with pretty much all of that,
[01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:50.800]  which Volkswagen did, Mercedes did too, and a number of other manufacturers,
[01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:52.960]  it became problematic.
[01:43:52.960 --> 01:43:56.720]  You know, if you go back to around 2014-ish, 2015-ish,
[01:43:56.720 --> 01:44:00.880]  when Volkswagen was offering diesel powered variants of most of its models
[01:44:00.880 --> 01:44:04.000]  and you could pick up something like a Jetta sedan, fine little family car
[01:44:04.880 --> 01:44:09.280]  with a TDI diesel engine that would get 50-something miles per gallon on the highway
[01:44:09.280 --> 01:44:12.800]  easily, you know, more than that if you drove it gently.
[01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:15.440]  That was a problem because that was right around the time
[01:44:15.440 --> 01:44:17.760]  that they really seriously began this EV push.
[01:44:18.640 --> 01:44:22.160]  And I think it would have been one thing if there were like, you know, a handful of
[01:44:22.160 --> 01:44:26.160]  one or two Mercedes diesels over here at the higher end of the market.
[01:44:26.160 --> 01:44:27.520]  That's not going to be a big factor.
[01:44:27.520 --> 01:44:31.120]  But when you have affordable mass market vehicles like that TDI Jetta,
[01:44:31.120 --> 01:44:36.000]  which you could have bought for $22,000 brand new back in 2015,
[01:44:36.000 --> 01:44:40.240]  juxtapose that against a $50,000 Tesla 3 that, you know,
[01:44:40.240 --> 01:44:43.040]  has a range of 240 or something miles like that,
[01:44:43.040 --> 01:44:45.520]  whereas you could go 600 miles in the Jetta.
[01:44:46.080 --> 01:44:46.960]  Which one are you going to buy?
[01:44:46.960 --> 01:44:49.840]  I mean, unless you're an ideolog or just a tech person
[01:44:49.840 --> 01:44:52.400]  who really likes the idea of having an electric car, which is fine.
[01:44:52.400 --> 01:44:53.760]  I don't have a problem with that.
[01:44:53.760 --> 01:44:57.040]  But most people from a practical common sense point of view,
[01:44:57.040 --> 01:45:00.560]  you know, weighing the two options, well, this one costs a lot less.
[01:45:00.560 --> 01:45:02.880]  It costs a lot less to drive and fuel.
[01:45:02.880 --> 01:45:05.600]  It's going to last longer and I can drive it farther.
[01:45:06.160 --> 01:45:08.160]  I think I'll buy this one rather than that one.
[01:45:08.160 --> 01:45:09.280]  They didn't want that.
[01:45:09.280 --> 01:45:14.320]  And Volkswagen was working on a little commuter hybrid car
[01:45:14.320 --> 01:45:16.640]  that was going to use a diesel engine with a hybrid.
[01:45:17.280 --> 01:45:21.440]  And it was going to get something like 150 to 200 miles per gallon.
[01:45:21.440 --> 01:45:22.480]  They were working on it.
[01:45:22.480 --> 01:45:22.640]  Yeah.
[01:45:22.640 --> 01:45:23.840]  That was in development right around the time.
[01:45:23.840 --> 01:45:26.960]  That's why they had to go after them and shut them down and all that stuff.
[01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:27.520]  Yeah.
[01:45:27.520 --> 01:45:28.400]  Absolutely.
[01:45:28.400 --> 01:45:32.160]  Well, I had a listener from Texas who really did me a solid, you know,
[01:45:32.160 --> 01:45:36.080]  when I blew head gasket on the head cooling system,
[01:45:36.080 --> 01:45:41.360]  go out on my hose brake and it, you know, messed up my engine.
[01:45:41.360 --> 01:45:44.080]  So he said, I was talking about that on air and he said,
[01:45:44.080 --> 01:45:50.800]  well, I get diesels, Volkswagen diesels, and I fix them up and sell them for a profit.
[01:45:50.800 --> 01:45:55.920]  And so he was going to come all the way over to the East Coast and go up north
[01:45:55.920 --> 01:45:58.480]  and pick up a car up there and then go down to South Carolina.
[01:45:58.480 --> 01:46:00.480]  But he said, I can't tow three cars.
[01:46:00.480 --> 01:46:01.920]  So he said, so I'll tell you what I'll do.
[01:46:01.920 --> 01:46:03.760]  I'll pick that one up that's north of you.
[01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:04.720]  I'll leave it at your house.
[01:46:04.720 --> 01:46:08.400]  I'll get your head gasket and I'll bring that back with me and machine it.
[01:46:08.400 --> 01:46:12.000]  And then I'll come and I'll leave the one car there at your place.
[01:46:12.640 --> 01:46:15.280]  And he did that and it was a great thing.
[01:46:15.280 --> 01:46:17.120]  It really was a nice thing that he did for me.
[01:46:17.120 --> 01:46:18.480]  But that was what he was doing.
[01:46:18.480 --> 01:46:22.560]  He's going around and getting these diesels that people had
[01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:25.840]  and getting them in top shape and then reselling them
[01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:27.840]  because they do last for a very long time.
[01:46:27.840 --> 01:46:28.640]  It's a great car.
[01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:29.920]  Yeah.
[01:46:29.920 --> 01:46:32.480]  And I think there's going to be a burgeoning market for that.
[01:46:32.480 --> 01:46:39.520]  And also for just rehabbing cars that were made before all of this creepy big brother tech
[01:46:39.520 --> 01:46:42.000]  started to filter into the new vehicle market.
[01:46:42.000 --> 01:46:45.600]  I've had a lot of people express to me that they just don't want any part of it.
[01:46:45.600 --> 01:46:48.240]  And when they find out that in just a few months from now,
[01:46:48.240 --> 01:46:54.480]  as the 2027 model year begins to roll out and they're finding out that all these cars
[01:46:54.480 --> 01:46:59.040]  are going to have eye movement monitors per federal requirement
[01:46:59.040 --> 01:47:03.680]  because they have to have this distracted drowsy driver technology now.
[01:47:03.680 --> 01:47:06.320]  So the way the manufacturers are trying to comply with that
[01:47:06.320 --> 01:47:08.720]  is to put these eye movement monitors in there.
[01:47:10.240 --> 01:47:12.640]  If you glance to your left or glance to your right,
[01:47:12.640 --> 01:47:16.480]  you get pestered by the car that tells you to look ahead.
[01:47:16.480 --> 01:47:18.560]  And it's just constantly watching you.
[01:47:18.560 --> 01:47:23.200]  It's the creepiest thing imaginable on top of all the other creepy things.
[01:47:23.280 --> 01:47:24.560]  And people just don't want it.
[01:47:25.200 --> 01:47:28.560]  So I foresee there's going to be a market for people like me
[01:47:28.560 --> 01:47:31.120]  who have some mechanical skills who are going to go out and
[01:47:31.120 --> 01:47:36.160]  find cars made in the say early 2000s that are fully modern in every meaningful way.
[01:47:36.160 --> 01:47:38.640]  But maybe they're a little tired and they need their engine going through,
[01:47:38.640 --> 01:47:41.360]  the transmission going through, the brakes, the mechanical things.
[01:47:41.360 --> 01:47:44.640]  I'm not talking about making it into a garage queen show car.
[01:47:45.760 --> 01:47:48.800]  Making it into a good, functional, solid, reliable car.
[01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:54.320]  A lot of people out there would happily pay $15,000 for a 1990s car
[01:47:54.320 --> 01:47:59.040]  or early 2000s car that they'll be able to drive for the next 15 years.
[01:47:59.040 --> 01:47:59.680]  That's right.
[01:47:59.680 --> 01:48:00.880]  As long as we can get the fuel.
[01:48:00.880 --> 01:48:02.160]  And that's the thing about diesel.
[01:48:04.160 --> 01:48:06.000]  You got more flexibility in terms of the fuel.
[01:48:06.000 --> 01:48:10.240]  But yeah, when we talk about distracted drowsy drivers,
[01:48:10.240 --> 01:48:11.520]  I think that's all of America.
[01:48:11.520 --> 01:48:13.920]  If we let the government do this kind of stuff to us,
[01:48:13.920 --> 01:48:18.080]  we're all distracted and asleep really is what is happening as this stuff happens.
[01:48:18.960 --> 01:48:19.840]  That's an aspect of it.
[01:48:19.840 --> 01:48:22.240]  I think, though, the part that grates on me the most,
[01:48:22.240 --> 01:48:27.040]  and this is not peculiar to this particular thing we're talking about, it's general,
[01:48:27.040 --> 01:48:28.640]  is this presumption.
[01:48:28.640 --> 01:48:32.320]  It's always the presumption that you're distracted, drowsy,
[01:48:32.320 --> 01:48:36.080]  the presumption that you're drunk, the presumption that you're everything imaginable.
[01:48:36.080 --> 01:48:37.680]  You're a terrorist at the airport.
[01:48:38.240 --> 01:48:40.000]  In other words, everything's been reversed.
[01:48:40.000 --> 01:48:43.120]  In the absence of any kind of probable cause, anything that you have done
[01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:49.920]  to warrant a suspicion that you're doing something that needs to be addressed.
[01:48:49.920 --> 01:48:52.240]  You're just being yourself, not doing anything.
[01:48:52.240 --> 01:48:54.240]  You're guilty until proven innocent, right?
[01:48:54.240 --> 01:48:55.760]  Yeah, and you're being treated.
[01:48:55.760 --> 01:48:59.200]  It's this suffocating infantilism.
[01:48:59.200 --> 01:49:03.520]  This idea that it's bad enough to have a tyrannical authoritarian government,
[01:49:03.520 --> 01:49:06.480]  even worse to have a tyrannical authoritarian parent
[01:49:06.480 --> 01:49:10.480]  that thinks that you're its child and that you need to be put in the corner
[01:49:10.720 --> 01:49:13.520]  and wear the hat and all these other things.
[01:49:13.520 --> 01:49:16.960]  We're grown adults and we're being parented by the federal government.
[01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:22.080]  I think one of the worst cases of that is the person who's likely to be our next governor here
[01:49:22.080 --> 01:49:22.880]  in Tennessee.
[01:49:22.880 --> 01:49:24.560]  That's Marsha Blackburn.
[01:49:24.560 --> 01:49:29.280]  She has been carrying the water for the Trump administration on an internet ID,
[01:49:29.840 --> 01:49:34.720]  and you talk about being considered guilty and having to prove that you're innocent.
[01:49:34.720 --> 01:49:36.720]  They're doing it all in the name of protecting the kids,
[01:49:36.720 --> 01:49:41.120]  and yet isn't it interesting, Eric, that you see the same things being done
[01:49:41.120 --> 01:49:44.240]  by the supposedly very conservative Republican woman
[01:49:44.240 --> 01:49:47.840]  that are being done by Keir Starmer in the UK.
[01:49:47.840 --> 01:49:49.200]  They're doing exactly the same thing.
[01:49:49.200 --> 01:49:51.760]  Last time we saw that, it was the global agenda
[01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:53.760]  about the pandemic and the vaccine, wasn't it?
[01:49:53.760 --> 01:49:56.560]  Yeah, and I think that's why they brought Trump in, frankly.
[01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:57.600]  Yeah, I agree.
[01:49:57.600 --> 01:50:03.440]  They sold him as this guy who was going to address the problem of overweening government,
[01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:06.640]  you know, invasive authoritarian government.
[01:50:06.640 --> 01:50:08.560]  Everybody was sick of it from the Biden years.
[01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:11.520]  Well, Trump's going to come in and he's going to be riding his white horse
[01:50:11.520 --> 01:50:14.880]  and he's going to restore the republic, and so everybody went to sleep.
[01:50:14.880 --> 01:50:19.120]  And we are getting the most invasive totalitarian government imaginable
[01:50:19.120 --> 01:50:25.840]  by things like Palantir, the flock cameras, the possibility of digital coinage,
[01:50:25.840 --> 01:50:28.960]  all of it being filtered through these creepy data centers
[01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:30.480]  that are suddenly popping up everywhere.
[01:50:30.480 --> 01:50:33.040]  All of a sudden, apparently climate change isn't a problem.
[01:50:33.040 --> 01:50:38.560]  It's okay to have all of our electrical grid pour into these data centers
[01:50:38.560 --> 01:50:43.040]  that are also generating immense heat and fouling groundwater and all these other things.
[01:50:43.040 --> 01:50:47.280]  The environment suddenly has taken a backseat to the necessity somehow
[01:50:47.280 --> 01:50:48.720]  to have these data centers everywhere.
[01:50:48.720 --> 01:50:51.520]  Why? And it's all happening under the watch of Donald Trump.
[01:50:51.520 --> 01:50:53.280]  That's right, because it's all about power.
[01:50:53.280 --> 01:50:56.160]  And it's not about electrical power, it's about political power.
[01:50:56.160 --> 01:50:58.320]  That's what the data centers are truly about.
[01:50:58.320 --> 01:51:01.280]  And it is interesting to see that, you know, Marsha Blackburn
[01:51:01.280 --> 01:51:03.840]  and the Trump administration are out there saying,
[01:51:03.840 --> 01:51:08.720]  well, we're going to shut down the state's ability to regulate these things, right?
[01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:11.120]  Because they're worried that people are going to shut down these data centers.
[01:51:11.120 --> 01:51:17.440]  So they want to try to shut that down and keep that lifeline to the brave new world open.
[01:51:17.440 --> 01:51:20.320]  And so they're united on that.
[01:51:20.320 --> 01:51:23.760]  Trump begins his second administration by saying,
[01:51:23.760 --> 01:51:28.080]  we're going to combine artificial intelligence with that last great innovation that I had,
[01:51:28.160 --> 01:51:29.280]  mRNA shots.
[01:51:30.000 --> 01:51:32.720]  And now we've just had, you know, of course,
[01:51:32.720 --> 01:51:34.960]  we were supposed to believe that there was Maha out there, right?
[01:51:34.960 --> 01:51:36.400]  They're going to make America healthy again.
[01:51:37.040 --> 01:51:42.320]  And he puts in an RFK Jr. who says, well, my job is to get people's trust restored
[01:51:42.320 --> 01:51:43.200]  in this institution.
[01:51:43.200 --> 01:51:44.800]  So they'll put on the wearables.
[01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:51.360]  Yeah, no, your job is to make this institution trustworthy,
[01:51:51.360 --> 01:51:52.480]  not just to get our trust.
[01:51:52.480 --> 01:51:57.200]  And so they use him to get people to buy on board with this thing.
[01:51:57.680 --> 01:51:58.960]  And what are they doing?
[01:51:58.960 --> 01:52:04.320]  Well, they're spending a one and a quarter billion dollars on new mRNA vaccines.
[01:52:04.320 --> 01:52:07.600]  And they are talking about how their next generation of vaccines
[01:52:07.600 --> 01:52:11.840]  is not going to be working on RNA, but it's going to be working on DNA.
[01:52:11.840 --> 01:52:16.800]  And that's supposed to be a feature, but it's not something that any of us really want.
[01:52:16.800 --> 01:52:19.440]  But they're doubling down on this and going further down that road.
[01:52:20.880 --> 01:52:23.760]  And I don't know why people would be surprised that that's really happening.
[01:52:23.760 --> 01:52:25.840]  Well, you know, I believe, I mean, did you,
[01:52:25.920 --> 01:52:27.200]  I'm sure you caught Trump's comment.
[01:52:27.200 --> 01:52:30.400]  I think this was about two months ago when he said, I don't believe these are,
[01:52:30.400 --> 01:52:33.920]  I'm paraphrasing that all vaccines should be mandated.
[01:52:35.600 --> 01:52:39.760]  Just some, you know, the ones that he says ought to be mandated.
[01:52:39.760 --> 01:52:41.280]  You're never a corpudiation.
[01:52:41.280 --> 01:52:44.320]  Hey, this is something that is up, should be up to the individual.
[01:52:44.320 --> 01:52:47.120]  You know, we're not cattle, you know, we have a choice
[01:52:47.120 --> 01:52:48.960]  as to what's going to be put into our bodies.
[01:52:48.960 --> 01:52:52.560]  No, this wonderful, wonderful alternative to Biden,
[01:52:52.560 --> 01:52:57.360]  airfingers quotes that was put up there is the guy who's pushing all of this stuff.
[01:52:57.360 --> 01:52:59.920]  And people don't see it because they think he's on their side.
[01:52:59.920 --> 01:53:00.480]  That's right.
[01:53:01.040 --> 01:53:03.680]  Yeah, he's the guy that brought in and I've said before,
[01:53:04.480 --> 01:53:07.680]  it's a lot less dangerous to have somebody who is coming at,
[01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:09.280]  you know, the fifth column approach, right?
[01:53:09.920 --> 01:53:11.520]  Yeah, we've got four columns outside the city,
[01:53:11.520 --> 01:53:13.520]  but there's a fifth column in there that they don't know about.
[01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:14.960]  That's our most powerful one. Why?
[01:53:15.520 --> 01:53:19.120]  Because people don't know that that's against them, right?
[01:53:19.120 --> 01:53:20.160]  It's like espionage.
[01:53:20.160 --> 01:53:25.680]  When you catch somebody that's a spy, you don't afford them the humane treatment
[01:53:25.680 --> 01:53:28.320]  and the dignity that you're supposed to give to prisoners of war.
[01:53:28.320 --> 01:53:33.760]  Because as we all know, we're now executing people on site against the Geneva Convention.
[01:53:33.760 --> 01:53:39.440]  But presumably, you would give a soldier in uniform humane treatment
[01:53:39.440 --> 01:53:42.960]  because you want that kind of humane treatment for your own people, right?
[01:53:42.960 --> 01:53:44.880]  But a spy you execute.
[01:53:44.880 --> 01:53:48.560]  Well, they want to have the fifth column in and I've said over and over again,
[01:53:48.560 --> 01:53:53.520]  I'd rather have some Democrat who's coming at me waving his flag, his rainbow flag,
[01:53:53.520 --> 01:53:57.600]  and telling me how he wants to trans my kids or something like that
[01:53:57.600 --> 01:54:00.640]  because I'm going to fight against that and I know that's the enemy.
[01:54:00.640 --> 01:54:04.640]  But when somebody starts using all this conservative rhetoric
[01:54:04.640 --> 01:54:08.720]  and says he's on my side and then he gets behind me so he can stab me in the back.
[01:54:08.720 --> 01:54:10.960]  I said that's the most dangerous thing.
[01:54:10.960 --> 01:54:12.720]  It's really demoralizing, yeah.
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[01:54:59.680 --> 01:55:03.200]  If there is a silver lining to the dark cloud of the war,
[01:55:03.200 --> 01:55:07.680]  I think it may be that the gas prices have awakened a lot of people
[01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:12.080]  who might otherwise not have been awakened because it really is, it's unavoidable.
[01:55:12.080 --> 01:55:15.600]  You know, you'd be somebody who's, let's say, not particularly sophisticated
[01:55:15.600 --> 01:55:19.200]  and doesn't really understand markets and doesn't understand economics
[01:55:19.200 --> 01:55:21.360]  and all these complex abstract things.
[01:55:21.360 --> 01:55:25.920]  But when you go to fill up your Tahoe and it costs 120 or 150 bucks,
[01:55:25.920 --> 01:55:27.600]  you can't help but notice that.
[01:55:27.600 --> 01:55:30.800]  And it has really soured a lot of people on Trump.
[01:55:30.800 --> 01:55:32.320]  And that's a good thing in a way.
[01:55:32.320 --> 01:55:33.120]  It is, it is.
[01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:35.920]  So it's soured a lot of people on him, just like the Epstein's.
[01:55:35.920 --> 01:55:37.840]  It's soured a lot of people on him.
[01:55:37.840 --> 01:55:40.960]  But you know, there was an article where they went through and they said,
[01:55:40.960 --> 01:55:44.000]  well, let's figure, you know, what was the average price?
[01:55:44.000 --> 01:55:47.200]  Because it varies significantly from state to state based on taxes.
[01:55:47.200 --> 01:55:48.880]  What was the average price before this happened?
[01:55:48.880 --> 01:55:50.720]  And what was the price afterwards?
[01:55:50.720 --> 01:55:52.560]  And it's this amount of money.
[01:55:52.560 --> 01:55:57.360]  So if you hadn't had to spend that amount of money on gas,
[01:55:57.360 --> 01:56:00.640]  what could you have bought in terms of food, right?
[01:56:00.640 --> 01:56:02.640]  And so one of the things they had there was a picnic.
[01:56:02.640 --> 01:56:06.240]  And I said, yeah, war is no picnic, quite literally.
[01:56:06.800 --> 01:56:09.120]  It is the, it is the lifeblood of the state,
[01:56:09.120 --> 01:56:14.160]  but it is death to your budget as well as perhaps to your life
[01:56:14.160 --> 01:56:16.960]  when the chickens come home to roost.
[01:56:16.960 --> 01:56:19.920]  And the inflation chickens are now coming home to roost.
[01:56:19.920 --> 01:56:21.280]  You know, they say it's 4%.
[01:56:21.280 --> 01:56:24.160]  That's probably not even close to what it actually is.
[01:56:24.160 --> 01:56:26.640]  Certainly not according to my, you know,
[01:56:26.640 --> 01:56:29.760]  anecdotal survey of what it costs when I buy stuff at the supermarket.
[01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:32.640]  People are beginning to notice that too.
[01:56:32.640 --> 01:56:34.560]  Well, we know that they lie to us about everything.
[01:56:34.560 --> 01:56:37.840]  They lie to us about the job reports, the labor statistics.
[01:56:37.840 --> 01:56:39.760]  They especially lie to us about inflation.
[01:56:39.760 --> 01:56:42.800]  And the new federal reserve chair is coming in
[01:56:42.800 --> 01:56:46.400]  with yet another adjustment to the way that they calculate inflation.
[01:56:46.400 --> 01:56:51.760]  They have adjusted it eight different ways over the last 32 years.
[01:56:51.760 --> 01:56:55.040]  And of course, now when you look at core inflation,
[01:56:55.040 --> 01:56:58.000]  it doesn't include food or energy costs.
[01:56:58.000 --> 01:56:59.200]  Why would that be?
[01:56:59.200 --> 01:57:01.360]  Is that so they can manipulate things?
[01:57:01.360 --> 01:57:03.920]  I mean, they do have an inflation number that includes that.
[01:57:03.920 --> 01:57:05.120]  Include the necessities.
[01:57:05.120 --> 01:57:09.600]  Like that's a really great way to try to understand
[01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:12.880]  the effect of all of these things on the lives of average people.
[01:57:12.880 --> 01:57:15.760]  Oh, don't worry about what food and energy and gas,
[01:57:15.760 --> 01:57:16.480]  none of that matters.
[01:57:17.440 --> 01:57:18.480]  What does matter then?
[01:57:19.040 --> 01:57:19.520]  That's right.
[01:57:19.520 --> 01:57:23.600]  Yeah, I'd also put in their taxes, tariffs and things like that.
[01:57:23.600 --> 01:57:25.600]  Well, Lance put up a quote from C.S. Lewis
[01:57:25.600 --> 01:57:27.360]  that since we were talking about Marshall Blackburn,
[01:57:27.360 --> 01:57:29.760]  I think he wrote this about Marshall Blackburn, didn't he?
[01:57:30.640 --> 01:57:31.680]  He says, of all the tyrannies,
[01:57:31.680 --> 01:57:34.480]  a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims
[01:57:35.120 --> 01:57:36.400]  may be the most oppressive.
[01:57:36.400 --> 01:57:38.720]  It would be better to live under robber barons
[01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:41.920]  than under an omnipotent moral busybodies.
[01:57:41.920 --> 01:57:44.640]  The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep.
[01:57:45.200 --> 01:57:48.800]  His cupidity may at some point be satiated.
[01:57:48.800 --> 01:57:50.800]  But those who torment us for our own good
[01:57:50.800 --> 01:57:52.400]  will torment us without end
[01:57:53.040 --> 01:57:56.080]  because they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
[01:57:56.880 --> 01:57:59.040]  Yeah, there's something like,
[01:57:59.040 --> 01:58:00.480]  if I'm going to get robbed,
[01:58:00.480 --> 01:58:02.800]  I kind of like the honesty of the guy
[01:58:02.800 --> 01:58:04.800]  who sticks a gun in my rib in the alley
[01:58:04.800 --> 01:58:06.880]  and says, give me your money or your life.
[01:58:06.880 --> 01:58:09.120]  That's an honest transaction in a way.
[01:58:09.120 --> 01:58:11.120]  Spare me the pieties,
[01:58:11.120 --> 01:58:13.600]  the lecture about how you're keeping me safe.
[01:58:13.600 --> 01:58:15.200]  And it's all for my own good.
[01:58:15.200 --> 01:58:16.400]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:58:16.400 --> 01:58:19.040]  Or as Spooner said,
[01:58:19.040 --> 01:58:21.680]  he said the difference between government and highway robber
[01:58:21.680 --> 01:58:23.440]  is highway robber will steal your purse,
[01:58:23.440 --> 01:58:24.800]  but the government will steal your purse
[01:58:24.800 --> 01:58:26.320]  and then follow you down the road nagging you.
[01:58:27.280 --> 01:58:29.360]  Sure, and you can't defend yourself.
[01:58:29.920 --> 01:58:32.480]  At least legally, if some guy sticks a gun in your ribs,
[01:58:32.480 --> 01:58:34.720]  you have the option of trying to hit him
[01:58:34.720 --> 01:58:38.560]  and prevent him from taking your money.
[01:58:38.560 --> 01:58:40.240]  If you try that with an agent of the state,
[01:58:40.240 --> 01:58:41.120]  you're a criminal.
[01:58:41.120 --> 01:58:42.320]  And they'll drag you off to jail
[01:58:42.320 --> 01:58:43.680]  if they don't kill you on the spot.
[01:58:43.680 --> 01:58:45.360]  Yeah, most likely they'll kill you on the spot.
[01:58:45.360 --> 01:58:46.800]  But yeah, with all that in mind,
[01:58:46.800 --> 01:58:48.640]  when you're talking about the rear view mirror,
[01:58:48.640 --> 01:58:49.760]  that's what I think about.
[01:58:51.600 --> 01:58:53.200]  That's the only reason I have a rear view mirror
[01:58:53.200 --> 01:58:54.720]  is to see if there's a cop behind me.
[01:58:56.880 --> 01:58:57.760]  I always think about it.
[01:58:57.760 --> 01:58:59.280]  I've played it on the show, Eric.
[01:58:59.280 --> 01:59:01.840]  You probably remember it from a gumball rally
[01:59:01.840 --> 01:59:05.040]  where they have the Italian guy gets in the car and he goes,
[01:59:05.040 --> 01:59:06.800]  well, the first rule of Italian driving
[01:59:06.800 --> 01:59:08.320]  and he rips the rear view mirror off.
[01:59:08.320 --> 01:59:09.440]  He goes, you don't need one of these.
[01:59:12.080 --> 01:59:15.520]  He was riffing on what Ferruccio Lamborghini supposedly said,
[01:59:15.520 --> 01:59:18.240]  which is what is behind me does not matter.
[01:59:18.240 --> 01:59:18.800]  There you go.
[01:59:21.360 --> 01:59:22.160]  Unless it's a cop.
[01:59:22.800 --> 01:59:23.520]  Unless it's a cop.
[01:59:23.520 --> 01:59:24.800]  But if you're in a Lamborghini,
[01:59:25.760 --> 01:59:27.600]  you can deal with that problem effectively.
[01:59:27.600 --> 01:59:28.480]  That's right.
[01:59:28.480 --> 01:59:31.680]  Well, you got another article, GM's Super Beetle.
[01:59:31.680 --> 01:59:33.120]  I thought it was a great article.
[01:59:34.320 --> 01:59:35.920]  And there's a lot of things in there
[01:59:35.920 --> 01:59:37.840]  that I did not know about the Corvair.
[01:59:37.840 --> 01:59:39.520]  Why do you call it the Super Beetle?
[01:59:39.520 --> 01:59:40.640]  Tell everybody.
[01:59:40.640 --> 01:59:42.000]  Well, because it kind of was.
[01:59:42.000 --> 01:59:43.360]  People who know about Volkswagens
[01:59:43.360 --> 01:59:45.200]  know that Volkswagen made a Super Beetle.
[01:59:45.840 --> 01:59:47.520]  It was basically a standard Beetle
[01:59:47.520 --> 01:59:48.880]  instead of having the flat windshield.
[01:59:48.880 --> 01:59:51.360]  It had a convex windshield.
[01:59:51.360 --> 01:59:53.680]  It had different marker lights.
[01:59:53.680 --> 01:59:55.120]  And it had a little bit of a bigger engine.
[01:59:55.120 --> 01:59:56.240]  But really, fundamentally,
[01:59:56.240 --> 01:59:58.240]  it wasn't that much different from your standard Beetle.
[01:59:58.960 --> 01:59:59.440]  GM.
[02:00:23.680 --> 02:00:49.600]  Put out something that arguably was a Super Beetle
[02:00:49.600 --> 02:00:53.120]  for 10 years from 1960 to 1969.
[02:00:53.120 --> 02:00:54.160]  And that was the Corvair.
[02:00:55.360 --> 02:00:57.200]  Unlike the Volkswagen,
[02:00:57.200 --> 02:01:00.480]  it had an air-cooled six-cylinder engine.
[02:01:00.480 --> 02:01:03.760]  The Volkswagen had an air-cooled four-cylinder engine.
[02:01:03.760 --> 02:01:05.280]  And it was a larger car.
[02:01:05.280 --> 02:01:06.400]  And I've owned both, by the way.
[02:01:06.400 --> 02:01:08.720]  So this is not just me reading out
[02:01:08.720 --> 02:01:10.960]  of a technical specifications book.
[02:01:10.960 --> 02:01:12.400]  I lived with both these cars.
[02:01:13.200 --> 02:01:15.920]  And so I had the opportunity to know the pros and cons.
[02:01:15.920 --> 02:01:16.960]  And I love Beetles.
[02:01:16.960 --> 02:01:17.840]  Beetles are great.
[02:01:17.840 --> 02:01:20.480]  But they're marginally powerful, very tiny.
[02:01:20.480 --> 02:01:22.240]  The heater, if you want to call it that,
[02:01:22.240 --> 02:01:24.400]  it kind of got the car sort of warm sometimes.
[02:01:25.120 --> 02:01:27.360]  It had a particularly good ventilation system.
[02:01:27.360 --> 02:01:29.040]  The Corvair and cars of that period,
[02:01:29.040 --> 02:01:31.520]  Volkswagen's, too, they had the wing vent quarter windows,
[02:01:31.520 --> 02:01:33.760]  which you could open to let air flow into the car.
[02:01:33.760 --> 02:01:36.320]  But the Corvair had this brilliant system of ductwork.
[02:01:36.320 --> 02:01:38.560]  You could close that, close the wing vent windows
[02:01:38.560 --> 02:01:40.400]  when you're on the highway, for example,
[02:01:40.400 --> 02:01:42.080]  not be buffeted by the slipstream.
[02:01:42.080 --> 02:01:43.760]  And you could pull open these vents
[02:01:43.760 --> 02:01:45.600]  that allowed a rush of air into the car.
[02:01:45.600 --> 02:01:47.440]  It was like poor man's air conditioning.
[02:01:47.440 --> 02:01:49.760]  And the six-cylinder engine had plenty of power
[02:01:49.760 --> 02:01:51.440]  to cruise at 75 miles an hour.
[02:01:52.080 --> 02:01:54.160]  With keep pace with highway traffic,
[02:01:54.160 --> 02:01:55.920]  75 miles an hour is about the top speed
[02:01:55.920 --> 02:01:57.360]  of a super Beetle close to it.
[02:01:57.360 --> 02:02:00.400]  I mean, it's really running hard at that speed.
[02:02:01.360 --> 02:02:03.680]  And Chevrolet made it not just in a two-door,
[02:02:03.680 --> 02:02:05.920]  which is the Beetle, it was always a two-door.
[02:02:05.920 --> 02:02:06.960]  You could get it as a sedan.
[02:02:06.960 --> 02:02:07.920]  You could get it as a coupe.
[02:02:07.920 --> 02:02:09.200]  They even made station wagons
[02:02:09.200 --> 02:02:12.240]  and they made little kind of utility pickups,
[02:02:12.240 --> 02:02:14.640]  cab-forward trucks called the Greenbrier.
[02:02:14.640 --> 02:02:16.080]  And there were a number of other iterations.
[02:02:16.080 --> 02:02:17.360]  Really a neat vehicle.
[02:02:17.360 --> 02:02:18.880]  A lot of people who've heard about the Corvair
[02:02:18.880 --> 02:02:21.200]  think it was Ralph Nader that killed the Corvair.
[02:02:21.200 --> 02:02:24.320]  With his hit book, you know, unsafe at any speed.
[02:02:24.320 --> 02:02:26.080]  I maintain that really the Corvair
[02:02:26.080 --> 02:02:27.920]  was just a victim of bad timing.
[02:02:27.920 --> 02:02:30.240]  You know, it was introduced in late 1959
[02:02:30.240 --> 02:02:32.080]  for the 1960 model year.
[02:02:32.080 --> 02:02:33.920]  And it came out at just about the time
[02:02:33.920 --> 02:02:36.080]  that the Ford Mustang came out a few years later.
[02:02:36.960 --> 02:02:39.920]  And all of a sudden the pony car market developed.
[02:02:39.920 --> 02:02:41.600]  And at that time gas was cheap
[02:02:41.600 --> 02:02:44.640]  and Americans post-war baby boomers flush with money.
[02:02:44.640 --> 02:02:46.240]  And you know, this weird little car
[02:02:46.240 --> 02:02:48.480]  that was kind of out of place in General Motors.
[02:02:48.480 --> 02:02:50.400]  You know, you went to a Chevrolet dealer
[02:02:50.400 --> 02:02:52.960]  and you're confronted with this odd thing
[02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:55.680]  that has a rear-mounted air-cooled engine.
[02:02:55.680 --> 02:02:57.040]  You don't have any, you know, that's just,
[02:02:57.040 --> 02:02:58.240]  that's a little bit, you know,
[02:02:58.240 --> 02:03:00.720]  you think about Don Draper going to a car dealership,
[02:03:00.720 --> 02:03:03.280]  you know, in 1961 and looking at that.
[02:03:03.280 --> 02:03:06.160]  I think I want a Nova or I want to, you know,
[02:03:06.160 --> 02:03:07.760]  I want something more traditional.
[02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:08.800]  People who knew Volkswagens,
[02:03:08.800 --> 02:03:10.560]  you went to a Volkswagen store specifically
[02:03:10.560 --> 02:03:13.120]  because you wanted that weird little car
[02:03:13.120 --> 02:03:14.480]  with the, you know, with the rear engine,
[02:03:14.480 --> 02:03:16.080]  the air cooling, all of that.
[02:03:16.080 --> 02:03:17.680]  That was that market for that car.
[02:03:17.680 --> 02:03:19.360]  So it was a natural market for it.
[02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:22.000]  The Corvair really didn't have a natural market.
[02:03:22.000 --> 02:03:24.080]  And, you know, they tried all kinds of things
[02:03:24.080 --> 02:03:25.600]  to present it to people in different ways.
[02:03:25.600 --> 02:03:27.440]  And it just didn't work out very well.
[02:03:27.440 --> 02:03:30.080]  And ultimately they ended up canceling it in 1969.
[02:03:30.080 --> 02:03:34.000]  I think that if General Motors had introduced that car
[02:03:34.000 --> 02:03:36.400]  around the time of the first OPEC oil crisis,
[02:03:36.400 --> 02:03:39.680]  around 1972, 73, when the market changed,
[02:03:40.320 --> 02:03:44.080]  dramatically by then, small, high economy,
[02:03:44.080 --> 02:03:45.520]  affordable cars were in.
[02:03:47.120 --> 02:03:48.800]  And if General Motors had brought that car out,
[02:03:48.800 --> 02:03:51.120]  because it was just a much more viable car.
[02:03:51.120 --> 02:03:53.440]  You know, the Beetle was a great car if you were single.
[02:03:53.440 --> 02:03:55.520]  You know, if you had a family and you needed more room
[02:03:55.520 --> 02:03:57.360]  and you needed a practical car,
[02:03:57.360 --> 02:04:01.360]  that Corvair was vastly superior, you know, in that sense.
[02:04:01.360 --> 02:04:03.440]  And I think it would have sold extremely well.
[02:04:03.440 --> 02:04:04.480]  And it's a shame because, you know,
[02:04:04.480 --> 02:04:06.400]  if it had had better timing
[02:04:06.400 --> 02:04:08.480]  and General Motors had had the opportunity
[02:04:08.480 --> 02:04:09.920]  to develop it farther,
[02:04:09.920 --> 02:04:12.880]  I think it would have been a really remarkable car.
[02:04:12.880 --> 02:04:14.880]  It already was, you know, if you look at it.
[02:04:14.880 --> 02:04:17.200]  And again, I owned a 64 Manza.
[02:04:17.200 --> 02:04:18.400]  It was a wonderful little car.
[02:04:18.960 --> 02:04:20.720]  You know, it's a shame that it died the way that it did.
[02:04:20.720 --> 02:04:21.760]  Now, you know, when we look at it
[02:04:21.760 --> 02:04:23.920]  and say that Ralph Nader killed it,
[02:04:23.920 --> 02:04:25.600]  he was complaining about the handling
[02:04:25.600 --> 02:04:27.760]  because the weight distribution and that type of thing.
[02:04:27.760 --> 02:04:29.360]  Did you notice anything like that?
[02:04:29.360 --> 02:04:30.560]  Did you ever take it to the limit
[02:04:31.200 --> 02:04:32.560]  to see anything like that?
[02:04:32.560 --> 02:04:33.520]  Sure, but you know what?
[02:04:33.520 --> 02:04:35.840]  I followed the air pressure recommendations.
[02:04:35.840 --> 02:04:37.200]  That was a key factor.
[02:04:37.200 --> 02:04:39.760]  And it was with the first generation Corvair, by the way.
[02:04:39.760 --> 02:04:42.720]  You know, the 60 through 64 was the first generation.
[02:04:42.720 --> 02:04:44.240]  And they came out with a modified one
[02:04:44.240 --> 02:04:46.480]  with a different body after that.
[02:04:46.480 --> 02:04:49.840]  And it had the same basic swing axle rear suspension
[02:04:49.840 --> 02:04:51.440]  similar to what the Beetle had.
[02:04:51.440 --> 02:04:54.640]  The difference was the Beetle didn't have a lot of power.
[02:04:54.640 --> 02:04:56.240]  And most people who bought a Beetle
[02:04:56.240 --> 02:04:59.280]  didn't really drive it too sportily, let's say.
[02:04:59.280 --> 02:05:01.600]  But the Corvair was bought by a lot of people who looked at it.
[02:05:01.600 --> 02:05:03.680]  It was even called this back in the day,
[02:05:03.680 --> 02:05:04.800]  a poor man's Porsche,
[02:05:05.440 --> 02:05:07.680]  because it had that six cylinder engine.
[02:05:07.680 --> 02:05:08.720]  It had dual carburetors.
[02:05:08.720 --> 02:05:10.000]  You could get four carburetors.
[02:05:10.640 --> 02:05:11.920]  You know, it's kind of a little little,
[02:05:11.920 --> 02:05:13.360]  kind of a little hot roddy little car
[02:05:13.360 --> 02:05:15.520]  that was also an economical car.
[02:05:15.520 --> 02:05:17.680]  So sure, and if you were an American at the time
[02:05:17.680 --> 02:05:21.120]  who didn't understand that, you know, all four tires,
[02:05:21.760 --> 02:05:24.080]  you know, don't have the same tire pressure in a Corvair,
[02:05:24.080 --> 02:05:26.080]  because again, almost all the weight was in the back.
[02:05:26.080 --> 02:05:28.720]  Chevrolet specified different inflation pressure
[02:05:28.720 --> 02:05:29.760]  for front to rear.
[02:05:29.760 --> 02:05:31.440]  And if you followed that recommendation,
[02:05:31.440 --> 02:05:32.720]  the handling was fine.
[02:05:32.720 --> 02:05:35.440]  The problem was a lot of people just didn't pay any attention.
[02:05:35.440 --> 02:05:37.840]  They filled up all four tires to the same PSI.
[02:05:38.400 --> 02:05:40.640]  And they also don't know how to deal with,
[02:05:40.640 --> 02:05:42.400]  you know, tail out throttle oversteer,
[02:05:42.400 --> 02:05:44.160]  which was an issue with those things.
[02:05:44.160 --> 02:05:46.000]  And they didn't even come around on them.
[02:05:46.000 --> 02:05:47.200]  It didn't happen a lot,
[02:05:47.200 --> 02:05:48.960]  but it got exaggerated and overplayed,
[02:05:48.960 --> 02:05:50.880]  kind of like the Pinto fire thing.
[02:05:50.880 --> 02:05:53.200]  You know, there are hundreds of thousands of Corvairs.
[02:05:53.200 --> 02:05:55.920]  How many of those types of accidents happen?
[02:05:55.920 --> 02:05:57.200]  Proportionately, not that many,
[02:05:57.200 --> 02:06:00.160]  but they got a lot of press thanks to Nader, you know.
[02:06:00.160 --> 02:06:03.760]  And he did his best as a guy who hates cars
[02:06:03.760 --> 02:06:04.800]  and was just being malicious,
[02:06:06.160 --> 02:06:08.960]  to use the Corvair to beat on cars.
[02:06:08.960 --> 02:06:10.000]  That's what he did.
[02:06:10.000 --> 02:06:11.280]  Yeah, that's interesting.
[02:06:11.280 --> 02:06:12.720]  Well, you know, I had an MR2.
[02:06:13.120 --> 02:06:17.920]  We're talking about timing and GM having a car
[02:06:17.920 --> 02:06:22.320]  that you compare the Corvair to a Volkswagen,
[02:06:22.320 --> 02:06:23.360]  that type of thing.
[02:06:23.360 --> 02:06:25.680]  I always go back and think about the MR2
[02:06:25.680 --> 02:06:27.840]  versus the Fiero that they came out with.
[02:06:27.840 --> 02:06:31.280]  I loved the body style of the Fiero.
[02:06:31.280 --> 02:06:32.160]  And I thought it was great,
[02:06:32.160 --> 02:06:34.240]  the fact that it was fiberglass.
[02:06:34.240 --> 02:06:36.720]  We were saying, well, it'd be a lot of aftermarket stuff for it,
[02:06:36.720 --> 02:06:38.000]  but it never really developed
[02:06:38.000 --> 02:06:39.920]  because it didn't get that popular.
[02:06:39.920 --> 02:06:42.960]  But they made something that kind of went against
[02:06:43.680 --> 02:06:45.520]  why you would buy a car like that.
[02:06:45.520 --> 02:06:47.920]  They made it kind of heavy, right?
[02:06:47.920 --> 02:06:53.280]  And so it wasn't as lightweight and as responsive as the MR2,
[02:06:53.280 --> 02:06:54.240]  from what people said.
[02:06:54.240 --> 02:06:56.000]  I never drove a Fiero.
[02:06:56.000 --> 02:06:59.760]  I had an MR2 and I had one time,
[02:06:59.760 --> 02:07:02.560]  I had a situation with it spinning like that
[02:07:02.560 --> 02:07:04.160]  because I would drive it pretty aggressively.
[02:07:04.160 --> 02:07:07.440]  I went through my first set of tires within six months
[02:07:07.440 --> 02:07:10.480]  and I had proper inflation in them.
[02:07:10.480 --> 02:07:12.960]  I was taking it around the corners pretty quickly.
[02:07:12.960 --> 02:07:14.400]  But I did lose it once
[02:07:16.080 --> 02:07:18.880]  because of that mid-engine weight distribution.
[02:07:18.880 --> 02:07:23.200]  It's not as easy to drive as something that is like the Miata,
[02:07:23.200 --> 02:07:24.800]  where you got the engine up front.
[02:07:24.800 --> 02:07:28.880]  And of course, Porsche has had an issue with that as well.
[02:07:28.880 --> 02:07:33.600]  The Porsche tendency for some of the 911s that had a rear engine,
[02:07:33.600 --> 02:07:35.120]  there was talk about that.
[02:07:35.120 --> 02:07:37.680]  And also in the second generation of MR2,
[02:07:37.680 --> 02:07:38.720]  there was an issue with that.
[02:07:38.720 --> 02:07:40.560]  So I always looked at that and I thought,
[02:07:40.560 --> 02:07:42.480]  well, maybe there was something to that
[02:07:42.960 --> 02:07:45.040]  that Nader was talking about.
[02:07:45.040 --> 02:07:48.800]  But I'd never realized that it was the tire inflation thing,
[02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:49.440]  as you pointed out.
[02:07:49.440 --> 02:07:50.480]  That was a factor.
[02:07:50.480 --> 02:07:52.640]  That and driving experience and lack of skill.
[02:07:52.640 --> 02:07:55.680]  You know, because to drive a mid-engine or rear-engine car
[02:07:55.680 --> 02:07:58.320]  like that near its limits,
[02:07:58.320 --> 02:08:00.000]  it's really not for somebody who's a novice.
[02:08:00.000 --> 02:08:02.880]  You know, they dial in understeer and oversteer in most cars
[02:08:03.600 --> 02:08:06.480]  so that when the thing does begin to kind of break loose,
[02:08:06.480 --> 02:08:08.240]  it does so in a more predictable way.
[02:08:09.280 --> 02:08:12.480]  Those types of cars, they would come around on you just like that.
[02:08:12.480 --> 02:08:12.880]  That's right.
[02:08:12.880 --> 02:08:15.600]  And you know, if you weren't somebody who had some track time,
[02:08:15.600 --> 02:08:17.600]  you know, really understood vehicle dynamics
[02:08:17.600 --> 02:08:20.160]  and how to recover a skid and better overall,
[02:08:20.160 --> 02:08:21.920]  how to avoid one in the first place.
[02:08:21.920 --> 02:08:23.280]  Most people didn't, you know.
[02:08:23.280 --> 02:08:26.960]  And again, the juxtaposition issue was that
[02:08:26.960 --> 02:08:29.760]  the Corvair was kind of marketed as an economy car.
[02:08:29.760 --> 02:08:32.720]  So it wasn't expensive and people bought it
[02:08:33.120 --> 02:08:35.200]  911 is a high-performance sports car.
[02:08:35.200 --> 02:08:35.680]  That's right.
[02:08:35.680 --> 02:08:39.440]  So you understand that when somebody gets out there and they lose it,
[02:08:39.440 --> 02:08:41.040]  it's like, okay, this guy is probably pushing it.
[02:08:41.040 --> 02:08:43.440]  You know, same thing with the MR2, you could say, right?
[02:08:43.440 --> 02:08:44.480]  Because somebody is doing that.
[02:08:44.480 --> 02:08:46.640]  But you know, when you get something that is marketed
[02:08:46.640 --> 02:08:49.920]  as kind of a cross between economy and a sports car,
[02:08:49.920 --> 02:08:53.440]  then people say, well, wait a minute, you know, I bought this as an economy car.
[02:08:53.440 --> 02:08:55.360]  Maybe I was driving a little bit aggressive or something.
[02:08:55.360 --> 02:09:00.000]  But you know, that was the thing I think that really did hurt the reputation.
[02:09:00.000 --> 02:09:03.200]  But, you know, they kind of with the Fiero,
[02:09:03.200 --> 02:09:07.120]  I always felt like they kind of missed it in a sense.
[02:09:07.120 --> 02:09:08.640]  You know, that was the criticism.
[02:09:09.840 --> 02:09:11.440]  You know, that's the tragedy of the Fiero.
[02:09:12.800 --> 02:09:14.800]  It was marketed as a sports car.
[02:09:14.800 --> 02:09:16.880]  But people very quickly found out, you know,
[02:09:16.880 --> 02:09:19.440]  the first cars that came off the line the first couple of years,
[02:09:19.440 --> 02:09:21.360]  it was basically a Chevette under the skin.
[02:09:21.920 --> 02:09:24.480]  You know, a lot of Chevette suspension components.
[02:09:24.480 --> 02:09:28.320]  It had an Iron Duke four-cylinder engine, which wasn't a bad engine,
[02:09:28.320 --> 02:09:32.000]  but it wasn't a particularly sporty sports car engine.
[02:09:32.000 --> 02:09:35.120]  And ironically, you know, they rectified it just in time to cancel it.
[02:09:35.120 --> 02:09:38.960]  They put in a punchy little V6 with a Getrag five-speed manual.
[02:09:38.960 --> 02:09:40.880]  The suspension was completely different.
[02:09:40.880 --> 02:09:43.600]  And, you know, they'd sorted it out and it was a fine handling car.
[02:09:43.600 --> 02:09:44.880]  I've gotten to driven them.
[02:09:44.880 --> 02:09:46.480]  I've driven them and they're wonderful.
[02:09:46.480 --> 02:09:49.920]  But, you know, the reputation had been so ruined by that time
[02:09:49.920 --> 02:09:51.040]  that it was irrecoverable.
[02:09:51.040 --> 02:09:53.040]  They weren't able to, you know, to resurrect it
[02:09:53.040 --> 02:09:54.960]  and convince people to come in and buy one.
[02:09:54.960 --> 02:09:56.080]  And so it got canceled.
[02:09:56.480 --> 02:10:00.240]  Yeah, I remember with the MR2 when Car and Driver did a comparison.
[02:10:00.240 --> 02:10:04.160]  This thing that sold me on it really was a Car and Driver magazine.
[02:10:04.160 --> 02:10:05.920]  It was the front cover of it.
[02:10:05.920 --> 02:10:09.760]  And they compared it to the Ferrari at the time,
[02:10:09.760 --> 02:10:11.520]  which was, I forget what the name of it was,
[02:10:11.520 --> 02:10:14.800]  but it was the same one you'd see on Tom Selleck's...
[02:10:14.800 --> 02:10:16.480]  Oh, the 308.
[02:10:16.480 --> 02:10:16.960]  Yeah, yeah.
[02:10:16.960 --> 02:10:18.080]  So they compared the two of those.
[02:10:18.080 --> 02:10:20.160]  They said, well, you know, the other one, you know,
[02:10:20.160 --> 02:10:23.600]  certainly that's a better car, but, you know, for the money,
[02:10:23.600 --> 02:10:26.080]  this is like 99% of it that's right there.
[02:10:26.080 --> 02:10:27.760]  And it was a great driving car.
[02:10:27.760 --> 02:10:29.040]  I loved driving that car.
[02:10:29.040 --> 02:10:30.000]  It was wonderful.
[02:10:30.000 --> 02:10:32.320]  But, you know, that was back in the day.
[02:10:32.320 --> 02:10:34.160]  Things are very different now, aren't they?
[02:10:34.160 --> 02:10:38.320]  They don't make cars that are there for your entertainment at all.
[02:10:38.320 --> 02:10:42.560]  But well, we didn't have time to get to the trends that are coming out there,
[02:10:42.560 --> 02:10:45.440]  but you've got some excellent articles about how tall is in
[02:10:45.440 --> 02:10:47.680]  and how one computer is enough.
[02:10:47.680 --> 02:10:52.080]  I think maybe we're kind of, as we're looking back at the old cars,
[02:10:52.080 --> 02:10:54.480]  we're going to look back at the old programs too and say,
[02:10:54.480 --> 02:10:55.680]  yeah, eight is not enough.
[02:10:55.680 --> 02:10:58.240]  That is what they would come out and say.
[02:10:58.240 --> 02:11:00.480]  I get some people sometimes will go after me and say,
[02:11:00.480 --> 02:11:02.000]  you know, that I'm a Luddite.
[02:11:02.000 --> 02:11:03.040]  I don't like technology.
[02:11:03.040 --> 02:11:03.760]  It's not true.
[02:11:04.800 --> 02:11:08.000]  Technology is a tool and it has its place and there's nothing wrong at all.
[02:11:08.000 --> 02:11:10.880]  And a lot that's good with electronic fuel injection.
[02:11:10.880 --> 02:11:15.040]  You know, the early systems operated the fuel injection and that was it.
[02:11:15.040 --> 02:11:16.000]  And that's all you need.
[02:11:16.000 --> 02:11:19.040]  Why do you have to have a computer to control the power windows?
[02:11:19.040 --> 02:11:19.520]  That's right.
[02:11:20.160 --> 02:11:21.120]  That's where we are now.
[02:11:21.120 --> 02:11:24.400]  Literally people don't know that, you know, it's no longer a simple switch.
[02:11:24.400 --> 02:11:26.880]  It is connected to something called a body control module
[02:11:26.880 --> 02:11:28.880]  and it's all integrated and multiplexed.
[02:11:28.880 --> 02:11:31.440]  It's so ridiculously over complicated.
[02:11:31.440 --> 02:11:34.960]  I can get in my 50 year old Pontiac, the power windows in it go up and down
[02:11:34.960 --> 02:11:37.760]  just as well as they do in any new car.
[02:11:37.760 --> 02:11:42.080]  So what's the advantage of what's been gained from the standpoint of the vehicle owner?
[02:11:42.080 --> 02:11:44.000]  What is the benefit of this technology?
[02:11:44.000 --> 02:11:44.720]  There isn't any.
[02:11:44.720 --> 02:11:48.240]  It's just made it needlessly complicated, more failure prone,
[02:11:48.240 --> 02:11:52.800]  more likely to have a premature catastrophic expensive failure
[02:11:52.800 --> 02:11:54.800]  that essentially bricks the car.
[02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:56.000]  What's the upside to this?
[02:11:56.000 --> 02:11:58.240]  And you better make sure that you got something to break the window
[02:11:58.240 --> 02:12:02.560]  because that computer is not going to let you roll over the window.
[02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:05.520]  So you better be able to break your way out of those things as well.
[02:12:05.520 --> 02:12:08.800]  So yeah, it is kind of crazy when we look at what is happening with it.
[02:12:08.800 --> 02:12:10.400]  And you know, I love technology.
[02:12:10.400 --> 02:12:11.040]  I really do.
[02:12:11.040 --> 02:12:15.200]  But what I have seen happening, Eric, is that technology is increasingly
[02:12:15.200 --> 02:12:19.120]  being driven by government and driven to the point
[02:12:19.120 --> 02:12:21.840]  of how can I use this to control people?
[02:12:21.840 --> 02:12:25.440]  That's why I have become, I guess you could say something of a Luddite.
[02:12:25.440 --> 02:12:28.000]  I resent most of the technology that is new
[02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:30.880]  because most of the technology that is new has one purpose.
[02:12:30.880 --> 02:12:34.720]  And that is not to serve us, but it is to control us.
[02:12:34.720 --> 02:12:37.680]  And that is nowhere more clear than in the cars that we see.
[02:12:37.680 --> 02:12:40.960]  Yeah, I'd say it's two things, control and money.
[02:12:40.960 --> 02:12:41.760]  It's extractive.
[02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:44.800]  They want to monetize you, every bit of you.
[02:12:44.800 --> 02:12:46.880]  They want to get as much money out of you as possible,
[02:12:46.880 --> 02:12:48.560]  while at the same time controlling you.
[02:12:48.560 --> 02:12:50.400]  That's right. Absolutely right.
[02:12:50.400 --> 02:12:52.240]  Well, it's always great talking to you.
[02:12:52.240 --> 02:12:56.240]  You're a soulmate when it comes to both liberty and mobility.
[02:12:56.240 --> 02:12:58.240]  And thank you so much for what you do.
[02:12:58.240 --> 02:13:01.600]  Your excellent site, ericpetersautos.com, folks.
[02:13:01.600 --> 02:13:05.440]  You've got many other wonderful articles that we have not touched on
[02:13:05.440 --> 02:13:06.720]  that are still there.
[02:13:06.720 --> 02:13:10.640]  And so go by and check out ericpetersautos.com.
[02:13:10.640 --> 02:13:12.000]  Thank you so much, Eric.
[02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:13.280]  Thank you, David. I always enjoy it.
[02:13:13.280 --> 02:13:13.780]  Thank you.
[02:13:14.800 --> 02:13:25.040]  The Common Man.
[02:13:28.320 --> 02:13:31.360]  They created Common Core to dumb down our children.
[02:13:31.360 --> 02:13:34.560]  They created Common Pass to track and control us.
[02:13:34.560 --> 02:13:38.480]  Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing
[02:13:39.440 --> 02:13:40.880]  and the communist future.
[02:13:41.120 --> 02:13:45.120]  They see the common man as simple, unsophisticated, ordinary.
[02:13:45.120 --> 02:13:51.120]  But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
[02:13:51.120 --> 02:13:53.120]  That is what we have in common.
[02:13:53.120 --> 02:13:55.120]  That is what they want to take away.
[02:13:55.120 --> 02:13:59.120]  Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.
[02:13:59.120 --> 02:14:05.120]  They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us.
[02:14:05.920 --> 02:14:12.480]  It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.
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