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[01:09.880 --> 01:14.880]  I mentioned yesterday briefly the Christmas Carol
[01:19.800 --> 01:20.640]  by Charles Dickens.
[01:20.640 --> 01:23.640]  It was kind of interesting, the history of this.
[01:24.520 --> 01:29.520]  There was an interview on World Magazine, W-N-G.org.
[01:30.520 --> 01:33.400]  They talked to Bruce Forbes.
[01:33.400 --> 01:35.520]  He's a holiday historian,
[01:35.520 --> 01:39.560]  and an author of Christmas, A Candid History.
[01:39.560 --> 01:42.040]  He said, everybody thinks, well,
[01:42.040 --> 01:44.360]  this is the way they celebrated Christmas
[01:44.360 --> 01:45.960]  back in Victorian England.
[01:45.960 --> 01:49.000]  He said, actually, it wasn't a portrait
[01:49.000 --> 01:51.180]  of Victorian Christmas at the time.
[01:52.100 --> 01:57.100]  And actually, Dickens actually made Christmas popular
[01:59.100 --> 02:02.220]  when it was not popular at the time.
[02:02.220 --> 02:04.300]  And he points out, going back to the 1600s,
[02:04.300 --> 02:08.860]  English Puritans tried to stamp out Christmas celebrations
[02:08.860 --> 02:11.380]  based on two main objections.
[02:11.380 --> 02:14.540]  Number one, they said, well, it's not in early Christianity,
[02:14.540 --> 02:15.760]  so we're not called to do it.
[02:15.760 --> 02:20.160]  Number two, is there too much wild partying going on?
[02:20.160 --> 02:24.600]  And again, the way I look at it is,
[02:24.600 --> 02:27.760]  some people look at one day as holier than another.
[02:27.760 --> 02:29.960]  Other people see every day as alike.
[02:29.960 --> 02:33.840]  Let everybody follow their conscience.
[02:33.840 --> 02:36.160]  And it depends on how you celebrate it.
[02:36.160 --> 02:37.520]  Is it gonna be wild partying?
[02:37.520 --> 02:39.680]  Is it going to be rampant materialism?
[02:39.680 --> 02:42.340]  Or is it gonna be an opportunity to reflect
[02:42.340 --> 02:46.320]  on the incarnation of Christ and his purpose?
[02:46.320 --> 02:48.040]  And so, Parliament even went so far
[02:48.040 --> 02:51.580]  as to ban Christmas in 1647.
[02:51.580 --> 02:53.800]  The historian Forbes said, at some points,
[02:53.800 --> 02:57.760]  they would send town criers around on Christmas Eve,
[02:57.760 --> 03:00.640]  crying, no Christmas, no Christmas.
[03:01.960 --> 03:03.520]  What would Megyn Kelly say?
[03:05.680 --> 03:07.320]  And Bill O'Reilly, these are the people
[03:07.320 --> 03:08.480]  he used to always talk about,
[03:08.480 --> 03:10.360]  that were on Christmas every year.
[03:10.360 --> 03:12.260]  Forbes said, for a century or more,
[03:12.260 --> 03:15.280]  Christmas remained diminished.
[03:15.280 --> 03:17.080]  A survey of stories, as a matter of fact,
[03:17.080 --> 03:21.280]  from the London Times, between 1790 and 1836,
[03:21.280 --> 03:24.560]  shows just how much Christmas had fallen out of favor.
[03:24.560 --> 03:25.680]  In 20 of those years,
[03:25.680 --> 03:27.280]  nothing at all is said about Christmas.
[03:27.280 --> 03:31.480]  And in the other 25, it's mentioned only briefly,
[03:31.480 --> 03:32.760]  in the kind of sense of, well,
[03:32.760 --> 03:36.680]  that's something that people used to do a long time ago.
[03:36.680 --> 03:39.620]  Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol in just six weeks,
[03:39.620 --> 03:42.000]  and he published it a few days before Christmas,
[03:42.000 --> 03:44.040]  on December the 19th, 1843.
[03:44.040 --> 03:45.340]  He was up against a deadline,
[03:45.820 --> 03:47.900]  just barely making it like we did with this book
[03:47.900 --> 03:49.260]  and the bookmark, you know?
[03:50.740 --> 03:53.260]  Anyway, the public reaction was instant.
[03:53.260 --> 03:56.020]  They loved it, it sold out, they printed it over and over,
[03:56.020 --> 03:58.260]  reprints over and over again in the following years,
[03:58.260 --> 04:00.420]  and it got very big in America as well.
[04:01.260 --> 04:03.940]  In 1868, Dickens sailed to the US
[04:03.940 --> 04:06.300]  to perform dramatic readings of his books,
[04:06.300 --> 04:08.900]  including A Christmas Carol.
[04:08.900 --> 04:10.700]  I used to watch Bonanza when I was a kid,
[04:10.700 --> 04:12.260]  and I remember they had an episode
[04:12.300 --> 04:14.300]  of Charles Dickens in America,
[04:14.300 --> 04:16.860]  and he went to the ranch, you know?
[04:16.860 --> 04:18.780]  He got to meet the cartwrights, I guess,
[04:18.780 --> 04:20.620]  because they got a lot of money.
[04:20.620 --> 04:24.260]  Anyway, Forbes said he was like a rock star.
[04:24.260 --> 04:27.940]  He had 150 people waiting overnight to get tickets in Boston,
[04:27.940 --> 04:29.500]  and the tickets all sold out.
[04:30.700 --> 04:32.740]  So he said, A Christmas Carol expressed
[04:32.740 --> 04:35.740]  Dickens' deep concern for the poor.
[04:35.740 --> 04:39.020]  And see, this is why, you know, when my friend
[04:39.020 --> 04:40.920]  who was from the Libertarian Party,
[04:40.920 --> 04:43.560]  he got so upset about Dickens,
[04:43.560 --> 04:47.520]  because he saw this as the wedge
[04:47.520 --> 04:50.760]  that was used to enact socialism, right?
[04:50.760 --> 04:52.320]  When in reality, you know, we need,
[04:52.320 --> 04:55.000]  we understand that they use children,
[04:55.000 --> 04:56.360]  as I said before, they're always,
[04:56.360 --> 04:59.480]  children are always, and the welfare of children
[04:59.480 --> 05:01.960]  is always the poster child for whatever it is
[05:01.960 --> 05:03.800]  that they want to do, whether it's setting up
[05:03.800 --> 05:06.960]  a digital ID on the internet or whatever it is.
[05:06.960 --> 05:08.960]  And yet we do need to be concerned
[05:08.960 --> 05:10.640]  about the welfare of children.
[05:11.280 --> 05:13.200]  It's just that we don't need to do it through government.
[05:13.200 --> 05:15.600]  And we do need to be concerned about the poor,
[05:15.600 --> 05:18.240]  and yet we shouldn't do it through government.
[05:18.240 --> 05:20.320]  And even though he wasn't advocating
[05:20.320 --> 05:22.840]  helping the people out through government,
[05:23.880 --> 05:26.480]  he even points out, you know, that one point he said,
[05:26.480 --> 05:29.920]  well, don't we have poor houses and institutions like that?
[05:29.920 --> 05:31.880]  And you look at how they had,
[05:31.880 --> 05:35.760]  the government had failed to help the poor in that.
[05:35.760 --> 05:38.640]  It really was an individual concern.
[05:38.640 --> 05:43.640]  And I think that was a key thrust of the Christmas Carol.
[05:43.840 --> 05:46.760]  So the story of Ebenezer Scrooge's transformation
[05:46.760 --> 05:48.320]  grabbed a hold of the public mind
[05:48.320 --> 05:51.680]  and added a new layer of meaning to the holiday,
[05:51.680 --> 05:52.920]  one which laid the groundwork
[05:52.920 --> 05:55.920]  for widespread Christmas celebrations,
[05:55.920 --> 05:59.080]  even among those who don't believe Christ came
[05:59.080 --> 06:00.960]  as a baby in a manger.
[06:00.960 --> 06:02.200]  And that's the other thing about it.
[06:02.200 --> 06:06.240]  You know, we need to understand the,
[06:06.240 --> 06:08.440]  when you look at Dickens' Christmas Carol,
[06:09.240 --> 06:11.160]  that was one thing that always kind of bothered me.
[06:11.160 --> 06:12.480]  You know, it's kind of like the beginning
[06:12.480 --> 06:13.600]  of it's a wonderful life
[06:13.600 --> 06:16.120]  and the phony angel narrative that's there.
[06:17.200 --> 06:20.800]  And, you know, how we're going to, you know,
[06:20.800 --> 06:25.800]  manipulate this guy's life in order to do various things.
[06:27.800 --> 06:30.400]  Still, helping the poor is not something
[06:30.400 --> 06:31.560]  that we should despise.
[06:31.560 --> 06:35.000]  Nevertheless, it's not, as Dickens puts it out there,
[06:35.000 --> 06:37.880]  it's not that good works are going to win us
[06:37.880 --> 06:38.720]  the favor of God.
[06:38.720 --> 06:40.760]  There are rewards for good works
[06:40.760 --> 06:42.520]  in both this life and the next life,
[06:42.520 --> 06:46.120]  but you gotta make sure that you make the next life
[06:46.120 --> 06:49.440]  and the good works are not going to give you eternal life.
[06:49.440 --> 06:50.600]  That's what Christ came for
[06:50.600 --> 06:54.840]  and that's the message, I think, should be of Christmas.
[06:54.840 --> 06:56.920]  As Forbes said, generosity becomes the theme
[06:56.920 --> 07:00.440]  that people can embrace, whether they're Christian or not,
[07:00.440 --> 07:02.680]  or whether they're religious or not.
[07:02.680 --> 07:04.440]  Generosity is a beautiful thing
[07:04.440 --> 07:05.280]  and it's, I think,
[07:05.280 --> 07:08.520]  Dickens' Christmas Carol's greatest contribution.
[07:08.520 --> 07:11.680]  It shifts what Christmas becomes
[07:11.680 --> 07:16.680]  and he made it kind of a secular orientation.
[07:18.880 --> 07:22.840]  You know, Jesus said, I am the way
[07:23.800 --> 07:27.240]  and no one comes to the Father but my me, right?
[07:27.240 --> 07:29.080]  It's a very narrow way.
[07:29.080 --> 07:30.880]  It's only one person wide.
[07:30.880 --> 07:33.000]  You come through or by Christ
[07:33.000 --> 07:35.840]  or you don't come at all to eternal life.
[07:35.840 --> 07:39.640]  And that is the message of Christmas, really.
[07:39.640 --> 07:42.480]  You know, some will say that, you know,
[07:42.480 --> 07:45.200]  we've seen Bloomberg say many times,
[07:45.200 --> 07:47.440]  they say, well, if there is a heaven,
[07:47.440 --> 07:48.280]  I'm going straight in
[07:48.280 --> 07:49.600]  because of all the good things that I've done.
[07:49.600 --> 07:54.120]  So everybody can come up with their own set of things
[07:54.120 --> 07:56.760]  that they think earned them salvation.
[07:57.960 --> 07:59.920]  God will not be impressed.
[07:59.920 --> 08:01.440]  You know, when we disobey him,
[08:01.440 --> 08:04.040]  we have rebelled against him.
[08:04.040 --> 08:07.400]  And that's why we don't realize how serious that is
[08:07.400 --> 08:10.720]  and we don't realize why we need Christ.
[08:10.720 --> 08:13.560]  But, you know, helping the poor,
[08:13.560 --> 08:15.160]  having healthcare for Tiny Tim,
[08:15.160 --> 08:17.000]  those are all great things.
[08:17.000 --> 08:19.800]  But, you know, the socialists have made those things
[08:19.800 --> 08:21.240]  that the government does.
[08:22.120 --> 08:25.400]  And so today, you know, if they were to come around,
[08:25.400 --> 08:26.480]  Ebenezer Scrooge would say,
[08:26.480 --> 08:29.240]  well, don't we have welfare programs for those things?
[08:29.240 --> 08:30.360]  I don't need to help anybody.
[08:30.360 --> 08:33.200]  And he would miss the personal reward
[08:33.200 --> 08:35.640]  of helping someone like that.
[08:35.640 --> 08:38.040]  You know, and these are all good things.
[08:38.040 --> 08:41.280]  But still, the only way to have that life
[08:41.280 --> 08:43.320]  is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
[08:43.320 --> 08:45.280]  You know, Dickens' story, I also thought about
[08:45.280 --> 08:47.800]  the fact that he has these three ghosts in it, right,
[08:47.800 --> 08:51.080]  that come back and they're the ones that, you know,
[08:52.200 --> 08:55.560]  reason with Scrooge and convince him.
[08:55.560 --> 08:56.680]  And I always thought, you know,
[08:56.680 --> 09:01.680]  that's really very much like a twisted version
[09:01.680 --> 09:04.160]  of the story that Jesus gave about Lazarus
[09:04.160 --> 09:06.840]  and the rich man in Luke 16.
[09:06.840 --> 09:09.760]  And I don't think that's a parable.
[09:09.760 --> 09:10.800]  I think that's a real story.
[09:10.800 --> 09:14.040]  He uses real names, even references Abraham.
[09:15.160 --> 09:17.360]  He doesn't mention the name of the rich man
[09:18.400 --> 09:20.120]  because of the context of the story,
[09:20.120 --> 09:23.080]  you realize why he doesn't mention that.
[09:23.080 --> 09:25.640]  But, you know, we could just call him Scrooge,
[09:25.640 --> 09:29.520]  for example, right, or say Marley.
[09:29.520 --> 09:31.640]  It'd be Marley, not Scrooge.
[09:31.640 --> 09:34.600]  Because the rich man, as he's in torment,
[09:34.600 --> 09:37.600]  he begs Abraham, he said,
[09:37.600 --> 09:40.800]  let me go back and warn my family about this.
[09:40.800 --> 09:42.120]  You know, I don't want my brothers
[09:42.120 --> 09:44.760]  to make the same mistakes that I have made.
[09:44.760 --> 09:47.520]  And kind of like Marley, right?
[09:47.520 --> 09:50.000]  Except what does Abraham say to him?
[09:50.000 --> 09:52.160]  He said, well, they have the law and the prophets
[09:52.160 --> 09:53.960]  and if they won't listen to them,
[09:53.960 --> 09:57.080]  they won't listen to somebody that comes back from the dead.
[09:57.080 --> 10:00.120]  I think about that every time I watch the show.
[10:02.160 --> 10:03.680]  So what would he tell them, right?
[10:03.680 --> 10:04.800]  What would he tell them about that?
[10:04.800 --> 10:07.880]  And what would they learn from the law and the prophets?
[10:07.880 --> 10:11.160]  Well, when Jesus was confronted with the religious leaders,
[10:11.160 --> 10:13.080]  he said, you search the scriptures,
[10:13.080 --> 10:15.120]  that is the law and the prophets,
[10:15.120 --> 10:17.600]  because you think in them you will find eternal life,
[10:17.600 --> 10:19.840]  but they testify of me.
[10:20.840 --> 10:25.400]  And they do, and that is the message of Christmas as well.
[10:25.400 --> 10:28.200]  You know, the prophecies and the whole narrative
[10:28.200 --> 10:31.040]  of the Old Testament all points to Christ.
[10:31.040 --> 10:33.680]  It's not about the end of the world.
[10:33.680 --> 10:35.600]  It's not about Zionism.
[10:35.600 --> 10:37.000]  It's not about any of that stuff
[10:37.000 --> 10:38.080]  and what happens to Israel,
[10:38.080 --> 10:39.320]  what happens at the end of the world.
[10:39.320 --> 10:43.520]  No, even, that's such a misreading of revelation.
[10:44.480 --> 10:47.200]  People will often call it revelations.
[10:48.200 --> 10:49.920]  And I think it's because they think of it
[10:49.920 --> 10:51.760]  as revelations about the end of the world,
[10:51.760 --> 10:56.760]  but the actual title is the revelation of Jesus Christ.
[10:57.480 --> 11:00.680]  That's what the Bible is from start to finish.
[11:00.680 --> 11:03.880]  And so it testifies of him.
[11:03.880 --> 11:08.880]  And again, the law and the prophets testify.
[11:08.920 --> 11:11.280]  So, you know, Marley's not gonna go back
[11:11.280 --> 11:13.000]  and tell Scrooge this.
[11:13.000 --> 11:14.800]  Scrooge has got the law and the prophets,
[11:14.800 --> 11:17.520]  and if he doesn't want to see
[11:17.520 --> 11:19.600]  what they have to say about Christ,
[11:20.680 --> 11:23.220]  then, you know, that's the real message
[11:23.220 --> 11:24.700]  of Christmas Charlie Brown.
[11:30.040 --> 11:30.880]  So that's,
[11:34.480 --> 11:36.280]  that's the reason that we celebrate it.
[11:36.280 --> 11:37.480]  Yeah. Yeah.
[11:37.480 --> 11:41.920]  It's always any chance you have to remember
[11:41.920 --> 11:43.840]  what Christ has done for you.
[11:44.040 --> 11:45.240]  That's right.
[11:45.240 --> 11:46.720]  And to tell people, you know, I mean,
[11:46.720 --> 11:49.560]  what is the end of the Christmas story?
[11:49.560 --> 11:51.360]  And nobody ever kept Christmas
[11:51.360 --> 11:53.560]  like Ebenezer Scrooge kept Christmas.
[11:53.560 --> 11:54.680]  So it's like, is that it?
[11:54.680 --> 11:56.200]  Is that the moral of the story?
[11:56.200 --> 11:59.920]  Kind of as an anticlimactic ending here, right?
[11:59.920 --> 12:02.680]  He still dies at some point in time,
[12:02.680 --> 12:03.760]  but they remembered him fondly
[12:03.760 --> 12:05.600]  because he was very generous with everybody.
[12:05.600 --> 12:06.440]  Well.
[12:06.440 --> 12:09.160]  No one put up more wreaths than Ebenezer.
[12:09.160 --> 12:12.600]  I hope that you enjoy the reward of that,
[12:12.600 --> 12:14.200]  and that is a rewarding thing,
[12:14.200 --> 12:17.040]  but that is not the ultimate thing.
[12:17.040 --> 12:18.400]  We'll be right back.
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[14:46.920 --> 14:51.000]  Welcome back and joining us now is Zoe Smith.
[14:51.000 --> 14:56.000]  She has set up a website, thrillkillmedicalcult.com.
[14:56.040 --> 14:58.920]  You can also find her on Substack.
[14:58.920 --> 15:01.080]  The name of the Substack is Zoe.
[15:01.080 --> 15:04.800]  That's Z-O-W-E dot Substack dot com.
[15:04.800 --> 15:08.320]  And we want to talk to her about being a whistleblower
[15:08.320 --> 15:11.480]  and the things that she saw during the pandemic lockdown.
[15:12.720 --> 15:15.840]  Zoe worked as a medical coder for over a decade.
[15:15.840 --> 15:16.800]  Tell us a little bit about that.
[15:16.800 --> 15:17.880]  What was that involved with?
[15:17.880 --> 15:20.240]  Is that for insurance purposes,
[15:20.240 --> 15:23.880]  identifying the procedures and putting the right code on it?
[15:23.880 --> 15:24.720]  Yeah.
[15:24.720 --> 15:25.840]  Hi, thanks for inviting me.
[15:25.840 --> 15:27.320]  Thanks for being here.
[15:27.320 --> 15:28.560]  Yeah, so a medical coder.
[15:28.560 --> 15:30.640]  A lot of people don't even know that it exists
[15:30.640 --> 15:32.920]  because you don't really see it as a patient,
[15:32.920 --> 15:36.800]  but everything that happens to you in a hospital, clinic,
[15:36.800 --> 15:38.600]  x-ray, lab, whatever,
[15:38.600 --> 15:40.840]  has to have a diagnosis and procedure assigned
[15:40.840 --> 15:42.960]  and that's how your doctor gets paid.
[15:42.960 --> 15:46.600]  So the coder is the one who reviews that documentation,
[15:46.600 --> 15:48.240]  assigns the right diagnosis code,
[15:48.240 --> 15:49.800]  assigns the right procedure code,
[15:49.800 --> 15:52.240]  and that's what gets put on the bill
[15:52.240 --> 15:55.320]  and that your insurance or Medicare uses to pay your doctor
[15:55.320 --> 15:58.240]  or the lab or the hospital for their services.
[15:58.920 --> 16:01.080]  So it was really boring until COVID happened.
[16:01.080 --> 16:03.520]  Then you had a bird's eye view of what was going on.
[16:03.520 --> 16:04.800]  I was just telling you off air,
[16:04.800 --> 16:08.680]  I said the aha moment for me was the AHA,
[16:08.680 --> 16:10.960]  the American Hospital Association,
[16:10.960 --> 16:13.400]  and I believe it was August of 2020.
[16:13.400 --> 16:14.880]  I've talked about this many times.
[16:14.880 --> 16:18.880]  They got very upset because they said to CMS
[16:18.880 --> 16:19.800]  who was paying them, they said,
[16:19.800 --> 16:22.280]  you told us that we didn't have to have
[16:22.280 --> 16:24.800]  a PCR documentation for this.
[16:24.800 --> 16:26.440]  They said that you didn't have enough of them
[16:26.440 --> 16:27.680]  and you said they didn't work
[16:27.680 --> 16:29.080]  and you said we just pointed somebody
[16:29.080 --> 16:31.160]  to a clinical diagnosis and you would give us
[16:31.160 --> 16:35.360]  a 20% bonus on everything that we did to the people
[16:35.360 --> 16:39.200]  as well as the upfront cash bonus of $13,000.
[16:39.200 --> 16:42.320]  And now you wanna have this new requirement.
[16:42.320 --> 16:43.200]  That's not fair.
[16:43.200 --> 16:46.280]  So they were complaining because they weren't getting paid
[16:46.280 --> 16:48.200]  and it kind of exposed the whole thing
[16:48.200 --> 16:49.720]  except nobody would cover that.
[16:49.720 --> 16:52.880]  It was amazing to me how there was dead silence
[16:52.880 --> 16:54.160]  everywhere about that.
[16:54.160 --> 16:58.120]  I mean, you incentivize people to that degree
[16:58.120 --> 16:59.760]  and I would always say to people,
[16:59.760 --> 17:02.760]  look, the money is the issue.
[17:02.760 --> 17:05.520]  The declaration of the emergency by Trump
[17:05.520 --> 17:08.320]  unleashed the money and then they put out these rules
[17:08.320 --> 17:12.680]  through CMS and paid these people to kill
[17:12.680 --> 17:13.760]  is really what was happening.
[17:13.760 --> 17:14.600]  Absolutely.
[17:14.600 --> 17:16.560]  And that's what you saw as well, right?
[17:16.560 --> 17:18.760]  Yeah, they did.
[17:18.760 --> 17:21.160]  I don't know if you're familiar with the vaxed bus,
[17:21.160 --> 17:23.760]  but Children's Health Defense, they sent out a third one.
[17:24.360 --> 17:27.240]  So they've done a part one, part two, and now part three.
[17:27.240 --> 17:30.800]  The part three is called authorized to kill for that reason
[17:30.800 --> 17:33.040]  because the CARES Act really did,
[17:33.040 --> 17:37.040]  it incentivized a behavior change in hospitals
[17:37.040 --> 17:39.760]  and with physicians and how they were able
[17:39.760 --> 17:41.080]  to practice medicine.
[17:41.080 --> 17:42.920]  It set everything on its head
[17:42.920 --> 17:44.560]  and it incentivized everything.
[17:44.560 --> 17:47.600]  What you're talking about, what the AHA said about
[17:47.600 --> 17:49.960]  you didn't even need a PCR test result
[17:49.960 --> 17:53.520]  to get that COVID diagnosis is absolutely correct.
[17:54.240 --> 17:55.360]  And that was one of the things that I noticed
[17:55.360 --> 17:58.240]  in the Pandora's box of things that changed
[17:58.240 --> 18:03.160]  right when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve
[18:03.160 --> 18:08.160]  in March of 2020, they changed all the coding rules as well.
[18:09.040 --> 18:12.900]  So April 1st, 2020 is when the COVID-19 diagnosis
[18:12.900 --> 18:14.560]  went into effect.
[18:14.560 --> 18:18.720]  And we were actually told to commit fraud before that time
[18:18.720 --> 18:21.560]  because we didn't have a code to reflect COVID-19
[18:21.600 --> 18:23.840]  and we needed to track that so much.
[18:23.840 --> 18:26.160]  And of course everyone had to get the PCR test
[18:26.160 --> 18:28.700]  in order to get the diagnosis.
[18:28.700 --> 18:31.340]  But then there was this official coding guideline
[18:31.340 --> 18:33.220]  which is what we use as coders.
[18:33.220 --> 18:36.920]  It's like our Bible, it tells us what's correct,
[18:36.920 --> 18:40.760]  what's fraud and it's essentially it lays out the rules.
[18:40.760 --> 18:44.040]  And in those rules, there's a part that says
[18:44.040 --> 18:46.200]  in order to be diagnosed with COVID-19,
[18:46.200 --> 18:49.840]  all your physician needs to do is write down
[18:49.880 --> 18:51.240]  in their medical opinion
[18:51.240 --> 18:53.800]  that they think that you have COVID-19.
[18:53.800 --> 18:55.480]  They didn't need to do an exam.
[18:55.480 --> 18:57.600]  They didn't need to have a PCR test result.
[18:57.600 --> 19:00.240]  And it says right in that official guideline,
[19:00.240 --> 19:02.680]  this is an exception to section two H
[19:02.680 --> 19:04.160]  inpatient coding guidelines,
[19:04.160 --> 19:06.680]  which says for every other diagnosis,
[19:06.680 --> 19:08.320]  they have to do an exam
[19:08.320 --> 19:11.960]  and they have to have some sort of clinical documentation,
[19:11.960 --> 19:15.460]  usually some sort of lab work or diagnostics
[19:15.460 --> 19:18.800]  to prove their working diagnosis.
[19:18.800 --> 19:21.400]  So COVID was an exception for that.
[19:21.400 --> 19:24.160]  And that was one of the really big red flags
[19:24.160 --> 19:26.120]  that came up for me.
[19:26.120 --> 19:28.880]  And of course I noticed in my position,
[19:28.880 --> 19:32.160]  not only is everyone getting this PCR test when we come in,
[19:32.160 --> 19:33.700]  they're not all sick,
[19:33.700 --> 19:36.840]  but then they get this COVID-19 diagnosis.
[19:36.840 --> 19:38.960]  And the part that most people
[19:38.960 --> 19:41.120]  that still a lot of people aren't familiar with
[19:41.120 --> 19:43.720]  is when they did the two weeks to flatten the curve
[19:43.720 --> 19:45.400]  and they locked down everybody,
[19:45.400 --> 19:49.000]  they actually kicked people out of the ICU early
[19:49.000 --> 19:52.540]  and they shut down other wings of the hospital.
[19:52.540 --> 19:54.760]  They went down to a skeleton crew.
[19:55.820 --> 19:58.200]  So they consolidated wings within the hospital.
[19:58.200 --> 20:01.680]  So the ER and the ICU stayed open,
[20:01.680 --> 20:04.120]  but the rest of the hospital was shut down.
[20:04.120 --> 20:07.340]  We were getting furloughed and laid off
[20:07.340 --> 20:11.160]  and hiring freezes and no raises, no bonuses
[20:11.160 --> 20:13.280]  during the time when the media was saying,
[20:13.320 --> 20:15.160]  these healthcare heroes are showing up
[20:15.160 --> 20:18.320]  to fight the onslaught of COVID-19 patients.
[20:18.320 --> 20:21.040]  What was the onslaught of false positive tests,
[20:21.040 --> 20:23.840]  but it wasn't an onslaught of a whole bunch of patients.
[20:23.840 --> 20:25.080]  We were getting furloughed.
[20:25.080 --> 20:27.600]  So the hospital really, really needed that money
[20:27.600 --> 20:29.800]  because they were bankrupted
[20:29.800 --> 20:32.680]  right before those incentives came out.
[20:32.680 --> 20:35.440]  So they really needed those incentives.
[20:35.440 --> 20:39.440]  So they were absolutely excited to label someone as COVID-19
[20:39.440 --> 20:41.400]  and get that 20% diagnosis
[20:41.400 --> 20:42.840]  and then hook them up to the ventilator,
[20:43.400 --> 20:44.760]  which they got another bonus for.
[20:44.760 --> 20:47.120]  And then the Randesa beer,
[20:47.120 --> 20:49.040]  which they were giving out like candy
[20:49.040 --> 20:51.840]  during this entire time.
[20:51.840 --> 20:54.920]  The bonus really didn't go into effect until August of 2020,
[20:54.920 --> 20:58.200]  but they were using it from about April all the way through.
[20:58.200 --> 21:01.120]  And I noticed how the protocols were killing people.
[21:01.120 --> 21:02.920]  And doctors would just say,
[21:02.920 --> 21:05.340]  oh, this is a progression of COVID-19.
[21:05.340 --> 21:07.540]  And to this day, a lot of people will say,
[21:08.640 --> 21:11.120]  oh, I had a family member that died of COVID.
[21:11.120 --> 21:13.520]  They went to the hospital because they had COVID
[21:13.520 --> 21:15.000]  and they died of COVID.
[21:15.000 --> 21:17.360]  But I asked them, did they really die of COVID
[21:17.360 --> 21:18.760]  or did they die of the protocol?
[21:18.760 --> 21:20.680]  Were they not that sick until they got there?
[21:20.680 --> 21:22.880]  And then they circled the drain
[21:22.880 --> 21:24.880]  because in my experience,
[21:24.880 --> 21:29.080]  most of the patients within sometimes a few days to,
[21:29.080 --> 21:31.320]  sometimes it took up to a month,
[21:31.320 --> 21:33.680]  but those protocols were killing people,
[21:33.680 --> 21:37.680]  shutting down their organs and then they would die.
[21:37.680 --> 21:41.480]  And that wasn't normal to have that happen
[21:41.480 --> 21:42.640]  to a pneumonia patient.
[21:42.640 --> 21:44.400]  Normally they'd be there three days.
[21:44.400 --> 21:47.120]  We pump them full of antibiotics,
[21:47.120 --> 21:49.600]  which we weren't using for COVID-19.
[21:49.600 --> 21:51.240]  And then they would go home.
[21:51.240 --> 21:53.280]  So this was totally backwards.
[21:53.280 --> 21:55.640]  And then I started to notice all the incentives
[21:55.640 --> 21:57.440]  because even as a coder,
[21:57.440 --> 21:59.920]  they have all these checks and balances
[21:59.920 --> 22:02.120]  in the electronic medical record system.
[22:02.120 --> 22:04.480]  And it counts against you if you miss something.
[22:04.480 --> 22:07.240]  So like if I missed someone for COVID-19,
[22:07.240 --> 22:08.520]  I would get a notice about it.
[22:08.520 --> 22:10.920]  Like, oh, this is gonna count against your score
[22:10.920 --> 22:12.400]  and might not get a raise this year
[22:12.400 --> 22:14.400]  because you weren't a good coder.
[22:14.400 --> 22:16.480]  And they were watching that for remdesivir
[22:16.480 --> 22:18.960]  because the bonuses were so much.
[22:18.960 --> 22:23.960]  On the bill, every single remdesivir infusion
[22:24.400 --> 22:26.440]  was $4,000.
[22:26.440 --> 22:28.280]  Give or take a little bit throughout the country
[22:28.280 --> 22:30.120]  because it's weighted based on like where you live.
[22:30.120 --> 22:32.680]  So it'd be more expensive in New York or California,
[22:33.640 --> 22:37.760]  but around $4,000 per dose
[22:37.760 --> 22:39.120]  is how much they were getting.
[22:39.120 --> 22:39.960]  Yeah, the ventilators.
[22:39.960 --> 22:42.920]  I interviewed a woman who was a nurse.
[22:42.920 --> 22:44.480]  She wrote a book called Pandemic Nurse
[22:44.480 --> 22:45.400]  and she was in Florida.
[22:45.400 --> 22:48.720]  And she said, I wasn't seeing the kind of narrative
[22:48.720 --> 22:50.000]  that they were talking about with the pandemic.
[22:50.000 --> 22:51.960]  And everybody was saying it was all happening up in New York.
[22:51.960 --> 22:54.040]  So she left and went to New York to help
[22:54.040 --> 22:55.600]  and sat around for a couple of days
[22:55.600 --> 22:56.720]  after she told them she was there
[22:56.720 --> 22:57.880]  before they brought her in.
[22:57.880 --> 22:59.040]  When they finally did bring her in,
[22:59.040 --> 23:00.760]  she's like, what's going on?
[23:00.760 --> 23:01.880]  They're not busy either.
[23:01.880 --> 23:03.080]  When they brought her in,
[23:03.080 --> 23:05.280]  physician walked around, showed the people on the ventilators
[23:05.280 --> 23:06.120]  and he said, you know,
[23:06.120 --> 23:08.000]  about 90% of these people are gonna die.
[23:08.000 --> 23:10.120]  And she said, it was horrible.
[23:10.120 --> 23:10.960]  They were just killing people.
[23:10.960 --> 23:12.600]  And of course, when you look at it,
[23:12.600 --> 23:16.840]  if you get a $13,000 bonus for pointing at somebody
[23:16.840 --> 23:18.200]  and saying they got COVID,
[23:18.200 --> 23:20.800]  they may not even be sick as you pointed out.
[23:20.800 --> 23:22.520]  Then if you put them on a ventilator,
[23:22.520 --> 23:24.880]  you get $39,000 already right there.
[23:24.880 --> 23:29.160]  You got $52,000 for a machine that costs you $50,000.
[23:29.320 --> 23:32.480]  And then they will pay you 20% on the charges
[23:32.480 --> 23:34.160]  that you've got for them to use it
[23:34.160 --> 23:36.240]  until you kill them with that ventilator.
[23:36.240 --> 23:39.080]  And again, pulmonologists were looking at this
[23:39.080 --> 23:41.960]  and come back and said, this never made any sense.
[23:41.960 --> 23:42.960]  We never did it like this.
[23:42.960 --> 23:44.680]  You're pointing out they give people antibiotics
[23:44.680 --> 23:45.720]  and other things like that.
[23:45.720 --> 23:48.160]  So we would never put people on a ventilator,
[23:48.160 --> 23:50.160]  you know, for pneumonia or things like that.
[23:50.160 --> 23:51.000]  Exactly.
[23:51.000 --> 23:55.880]  All of it was so incredibly corrupt and counterintuitive
[23:55.880 --> 23:57.720]  and they turned the hospitals
[23:57.720 --> 24:00.240]  into killing machines for money.
[24:00.240 --> 24:01.240]  And everybody was willing to do that.
[24:01.240 --> 24:03.320]  I mean, if you got somebody that's there
[24:03.320 --> 24:08.320]  and even if it wasn't an economic emergency
[24:08.600 --> 24:10.720]  that had been created partially by the government,
[24:10.720 --> 24:12.260]  you know, if you were to tell somebody,
[24:12.260 --> 24:13.440]  you point to that person and say,
[24:13.440 --> 24:17.800]  they've got this condition, I'll give you $13,000.
[24:17.800 --> 24:19.560]  We know how human nature works
[24:19.560 --> 24:21.800]  and we know how the corporate hospitals work.
[24:21.800 --> 24:24.280]  I mean, the incentives to do that are gonna be huge.
[24:24.280 --> 24:27.680]  Just like the disincentives to report somebody
[24:27.680 --> 24:30.200]  when they've had a reaction to the vaccines
[24:30.200 --> 24:31.540]  are gonna be huge as well.
[24:31.540 --> 24:32.400]  Were you still there
[24:32.400 --> 24:34.240]  when they started the vaccination program
[24:34.240 --> 24:35.080]  or had you left?
[24:35.080 --> 24:36.640]  Because you say that you left
[24:36.640 --> 24:40.000]  when they made the vaccine mandatory.
[24:40.000 --> 24:42.040]  Did you see it happening before that?
[24:42.960 --> 24:45.680]  I started to wake up during,
[24:45.680 --> 24:47.440]  really when they started declaring two weeks
[24:47.440 --> 24:48.280]  to flatten the curve
[24:48.280 --> 24:50.680]  and I started seeing people wearing masks in public.
[24:50.680 --> 24:54.200]  I knew this was not a pandemic
[24:55.120 --> 24:57.960]  and there was some kind of psychological operation going on
[24:57.960 --> 24:59.040]  because I had worked in the hospital
[24:59.040 --> 25:00.720]  for the swine flu scare.
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[25:14.620 --> 25:15.460]  Why?
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[25:18.640 --> 25:20.540]  It was a nice idea, sure,
[25:20.540 --> 25:24.280]  but I had no idea just how much that simple act
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[26:41.060 --> 26:42.980]  And it wasn't a thing in the hospital.
[26:42.980 --> 26:44.660]  Like it was just regular flu.
[26:44.660 --> 26:46.900]  I didn't even talk to people that were on the front lines,
[26:47.140 --> 26:49.620]  like ER doctors and nurses.
[26:49.620 --> 26:52.060]  And they said, some of them even said that they got it
[26:52.060 --> 26:53.740]  and it wasn't that big of a deal.
[26:53.740 --> 26:56.900]  So when they declared COVID, I was really suspicious.
[26:56.900 --> 26:59.340]  This is just gonna be another vaccination campaign
[26:59.340 --> 27:02.220]  because they already had mandates for the flu shot
[27:02.220 --> 27:05.540]  for healthcare workers for like a decade before that.
[27:05.540 --> 27:08.380]  And I had been doing the exemption every year.
[27:08.380 --> 27:10.580]  And the reason I did that is because the first year
[27:10.580 --> 27:13.460]  that they made healthcare workers get the flu shot,
[27:13.460 --> 27:15.300]  everybody was getting the flu.
[27:15.300 --> 27:18.180]  And so that was the year that we came up with the,
[27:18.180 --> 27:20.580]  it was just a rumor within the university lab
[27:20.580 --> 27:22.340]  where I worked, but everybody was saying it,
[27:22.340 --> 27:24.420]  that you get the flu from the flu shot.
[27:24.420 --> 27:26.820]  So ever since then, I just didn't wanna do it.
[27:26.820 --> 27:29.580]  So during that whole year of operation work speed,
[27:29.580 --> 27:31.220]  the only thing that's gonna get us back to normal
[27:31.220 --> 27:32.540]  is this vaccine.
[27:32.540 --> 27:35.700]  I thought if the flu shot never worked,
[27:35.700 --> 27:38.620]  the chances that the COVID shot is gonna work
[27:38.620 --> 27:40.420]  is slim to nil.
[27:40.420 --> 27:42.540]  And the amount of pressure for this one
[27:42.540 --> 27:46.100]  compared to the flu shot is astronomical.
[27:46.100 --> 27:47.900]  So there's something to it.
[27:47.900 --> 27:50.780]  So that made me actually not just look at the COVID shot,
[27:50.780 --> 27:53.060]  but look at all the other vaccines.
[27:53.060 --> 27:56.220]  And what I learned was they don't teach coders
[27:56.220 --> 28:00.140]  or doctors or nurses anything about vaccine side effects
[28:00.140 --> 28:04.260]  or adverse effects, despite the fact that they have codes
[28:04.260 --> 28:07.620]  to assign for vaccine effects.
[28:07.620 --> 28:10.100]  But I would see patients come in with like Guillain-Barre
[28:10.100 --> 28:12.980]  before this, and the doctors would try very hard
[28:12.980 --> 28:15.380]  not to relate it to a vaccine.
[28:15.380 --> 28:16.780]  And there would be codes in there,
[28:16.780 --> 28:18.860]  like adverse effect of flu shot
[28:18.860 --> 28:20.700]  or adverse effect of whatever.
[28:20.700 --> 28:24.460]  And those are supposed to be like a safety signal code.
[28:24.460 --> 28:27.340]  Like one of the reasons why the ICD-10 system,
[28:27.340 --> 28:29.180]  which is owned by the WHO, by the way.
[28:29.180 --> 28:32.740]  So every member state that is part of the WHO
[28:32.740 --> 28:34.740]  has to report these codes
[28:34.740 --> 28:37.100]  and it's for statistical monitoring purposes.
[28:37.100 --> 28:39.740]  So this is how they monitor pandemics.
[28:39.740 --> 28:42.500]  This is how they monitor cancer,
[28:42.500 --> 28:45.180]  like how many cases of cancer there are
[28:45.180 --> 28:50.180]  throughout the world or heart problems or pneumonia cases.
[28:50.220 --> 28:52.220]  This is the system that they use.
[28:52.220 --> 28:54.100]  And it's also supposed to be used starting
[28:54.100 --> 28:57.500]  in clinical trials for devices and drugs
[28:57.500 --> 28:59.820]  to look for a safety signal.
[28:59.820 --> 29:02.460]  So I thought with this COVID-19 vaccine,
[29:02.460 --> 29:06.900]  there should be a code for adverse effect of this shot
[29:06.900 --> 29:08.860]  and it should be my job to assign it.
[29:08.860 --> 29:10.260]  So I did my due diligence
[29:10.260 --> 29:12.460]  and I looked into all the warnings
[29:12.460 --> 29:15.100]  and what could happen if people got the shot.
[29:15.100 --> 29:16.500]  And then I looked at what could happen
[29:16.500 --> 29:18.100]  if people got the other vaccines.
[29:18.100 --> 29:20.820]  And I started to realize that they had been varying
[29:20.820 --> 29:24.540]  all of the effects that people would get from vaccines
[29:24.540 --> 29:28.900]  and not assigning these adverse effect codes up until 2020.
[29:28.900 --> 29:31.100]  And then when the COVID-19 vaccine came out,
[29:31.100 --> 29:32.940]  there was no code to report it.
[29:32.940 --> 29:34.420]  So it should have been my job
[29:34.420 --> 29:36.300]  to collect that danger signal.
[29:36.300 --> 29:38.340]  And I even went on a podcast called
[29:38.340 --> 29:42.820]  Deborah Gets Red Pill was just a radio show in early 2021
[29:42.820 --> 29:44.660]  right after I quit my job.
[29:44.660 --> 29:48.820]  And I said, the COVID-19 vaccine is more dangerous
[29:48.820 --> 29:52.140]  than all of the other vaccines combined.
[29:52.140 --> 29:54.980]  And that was with my, that was just an observation,
[29:54.980 --> 29:59.180]  but it was 10 years of medical coding experience
[29:59.180 --> 30:02.740]  and then learning what I learned about vaccine side effects
[30:02.740 --> 30:05.100]  and all the cases that I saw of children in the ER
[30:05.100 --> 30:07.060]  constantly having eczema or rashes
[30:07.060 --> 30:10.060]  or even anaphylactic responses.
[30:10.060 --> 30:12.420]  And then I look at the record, they just got a vaccine,
[30:12.420 --> 30:15.020]  but the doctor's not connecting the two.
[30:15.020 --> 30:18.100]  So when COVID-19 came out, people were having strokes
[30:18.100 --> 30:22.380]  and acetylitis and blood clots like I've never seen before.
[30:22.380 --> 30:24.540]  Myocarditis, they were getting COVID-19
[30:24.540 --> 30:26.180]  immediately after getting the shot
[30:26.180 --> 30:28.260]  like the same day or the next day
[30:28.260 --> 30:29.900]  and then being hospitalized.
[30:29.900 --> 30:32.100]  There were people with paralytic problems,
[30:32.100 --> 30:34.900]  seizure disorders, blood disorders
[30:35.700 --> 30:36.900]  where they couldn't even figure out what was going on
[30:36.900 --> 30:38.660]  because the patient was clotting and bleeding
[30:38.660 --> 30:41.660]  at the same time and they didn't even know how to treat it.
[30:43.380 --> 30:46.860]  Crazy stuff started happening just in the first four months
[30:46.860 --> 30:48.060]  of the vaccine rollout.
[30:48.060 --> 30:51.460]  So it wasn't even available to the rest of the public yet.
[30:51.460 --> 30:55.140]  But by summer of 2021 is when they started saying,
[30:55.140 --> 30:57.900]  you at home, like this is the hospital leadership.
[30:57.900 --> 31:01.260]  They would have videos that they would send to all staff
[31:01.260 --> 31:03.980]  all the time monitoring COVID.
[31:03.980 --> 31:06.380]  And they were really, really pushing us to get that shot.
[31:06.380 --> 31:08.380]  They were saying, we're not doing as good
[31:08.380 --> 31:10.940]  as the other hospitals who are getting incentivized
[31:10.940 --> 31:13.460]  for meeting their vaccination quota.
[31:13.460 --> 31:14.580]  And we weren't.
[31:14.580 --> 31:17.300]  So they were pointing to us, people who worked from home,
[31:17.300 --> 31:20.580]  who never saw patients, who never walked into a hospital.
[31:20.580 --> 31:22.940]  You guys are spreading it around society
[31:22.940 --> 31:24.700]  and we're gonna have to fire you
[31:24.700 --> 31:26.980]  if you don't get your shots.
[31:26.980 --> 31:30.300]  So at that point, I couldn't take it anymore.
[31:30.300 --> 31:33.340]  I knew that my job had been to get them money
[31:33.340 --> 31:35.020]  for murdering patients.
[31:35.020 --> 31:37.980]  And I was having a crisis of conscience over that.
[31:37.980 --> 31:40.500]  And then before the vaccine went out,
[31:40.500 --> 31:43.540]  I decided I was gonna be a spy at that point
[31:43.540 --> 31:45.900]  and just see if the vaccine really was as bad
[31:45.900 --> 31:48.100]  as old warnings said.
[31:48.100 --> 31:52.260]  And then it turned out to be far worse than I anticipated.
[31:52.260 --> 31:54.660]  And I didn't think that the chances would be very good
[31:54.660 --> 31:57.820]  that I would get an exemption
[31:57.820 --> 32:00.540]  because it changed the rules for getting an exemption.
[32:01.460 --> 32:03.860]  A lot of people got fired
[32:03.860 --> 32:06.180]  and I didn't wanna work for them anymore.
[32:06.180 --> 32:07.740]  I didn't wanna continue helping them
[32:07.740 --> 32:09.420]  get money to murder people.
[32:09.420 --> 32:10.540]  So. Good for you.
[32:10.540 --> 32:11.500]  Good for you.
[32:11.500 --> 32:13.500]  Yeah, you really did have. That's why I chose to walk out.
[32:13.500 --> 32:16.020]  You really did have a bird's eye view of this whole thing
[32:16.020 --> 32:18.740]  because you're seeing the diagnostic codes
[32:18.740 --> 32:21.580]  as well as the treatments that are there.
[32:21.580 --> 32:24.860]  And so you could get a good picture
[32:24.860 --> 32:26.900]  of what was actually coming on
[32:26.900 --> 32:30.300]  and seeing the trends that were there.
[32:30.340 --> 32:32.180]  That's very interesting, your perspective.
[32:32.180 --> 32:34.180]  Yeah, I've got something and I apologize
[32:34.180 --> 32:35.420]  because we can't feed this to you.
[32:35.420 --> 32:36.260]  So you can't hear this.
[32:36.260 --> 32:38.260]  I'll kind of talk about it and describe it.
[32:38.260 --> 32:42.300]  But I want the audience to hear what Lutnik,
[32:42.300 --> 32:45.860]  I call him Lucky Lutnik, what he said
[32:45.860 --> 32:48.820]  in terms about the money that can be made
[32:48.820 --> 32:49.660]  off of this kind of stuff.
[32:49.660 --> 32:52.420]  And he uses an example of the vaccines.
[32:53.300 --> 32:55.860]  The United States government, the most powerful,
[32:55.860 --> 32:58.300]  the greatest customer, buys stuff.
[32:58.300 --> 33:00.260]  We walk in, we're going to buy,
[33:00.260 --> 33:01.740]  here's the example I like to use.
[33:01.740 --> 33:06.180]  We're going to buy two billion COVID vaccines.
[33:07.180 --> 33:10.860]  When we buy it, Pfizer and Moderna stocks are going to triple.
[33:11.980 --> 33:13.100]  They're going to triple.
[33:13.100 --> 33:16.140]  So then we say, everyone's going to have this vaccine.
[33:17.500 --> 33:20.900]  If I were, after Jared Kushner negotiated
[33:20.900 --> 33:22.100]  the best deal he could,
[33:22.100 --> 33:23.700]  if Howard Lutnik walked in the room,
[33:23.700 --> 33:27.020]  Howard Lutnik would say, what do you think, 20% warrants?
[33:27.980 --> 33:30.140]  20% warrants, right?
[33:30.140 --> 33:30.980]  What?
[33:30.980 --> 33:33.740]  So we'd make $50 billion off of who?
[33:33.740 --> 33:34.860]  Nobody.
[33:34.860 --> 33:36.460]  We didn't take from anybody.
[33:36.460 --> 33:38.540]  Okay, the shareholders of Pfizer,
[33:38.540 --> 33:41.620]  who we've just tripled them with our order.
[33:41.620 --> 33:43.620]  Now, how many of my customers?
[33:45.740 --> 33:49.180]  Yeah, Zoe, what he's saying, Zoe, he says,
[33:49.180 --> 33:51.780]  yeah, the U.S. government's the most powerful customer.
[33:51.780 --> 33:53.260]  So we're going to go in and we're going to buy
[33:53.300 --> 33:55.740]  two billion dollars worth of these vaccines
[33:55.740 --> 33:57.260]  from Pfizer and Moderna.
[33:57.260 --> 33:58.700]  We're going to force people to take them.
[33:58.700 --> 33:59.740]  He goes, so I'm looking at this.
[33:59.740 --> 34:01.620]  I'm saying, well, I'm going to get some 20% warrants.
[34:01.620 --> 34:02.540]  I want some action of that.
[34:02.540 --> 34:04.260]  I know what's going to happen with all this.
[34:04.260 --> 34:06.780]  And he says, and who have we harmed with all this stuff?
[34:06.780 --> 34:09.540]  It's like the people who got the shot, obviously.
[34:09.540 --> 34:11.380]  But he doesn't even see that.
[34:11.380 --> 34:14.820]  He sees nothing but dollar signs.
[34:14.820 --> 34:16.140]  This is the guy, of course,
[34:16.140 --> 34:19.420]  that is now the commerce secretary for Trump.
[34:19.420 --> 34:22.140]  And he's the guy who's pushing through the stable coins
[34:22.140 --> 34:23.700]  and all the rest of this stuff.
[34:23.700 --> 34:26.500]  Makes you wonder what he is going to be doing to us
[34:26.500 --> 34:27.700]  with the stable coins
[34:27.700 --> 34:30.900]  and the resetting of the financial system.
[34:30.900 --> 34:34.300]  These are people who see nothing other than money
[34:34.300 --> 34:37.860]  and they don't care what they have to do to other people
[34:37.860 --> 34:38.900]  in order to make money.
[34:38.900 --> 34:41.860]  It truly is amazing, the greed and the system
[34:41.860 --> 34:42.700]  and the corruption.
[34:42.700 --> 34:44.260]  Right.
[34:44.260 --> 34:46.700]  It is so hard for me to wrap my brain around
[34:46.700 --> 34:49.460]  how many people they killed.
[34:49.500 --> 34:53.820]  It was a silent genocide that is still invisible.
[34:53.820 --> 34:56.180]  But there's no family that I can,
[34:56.180 --> 34:57.980]  that I've talked to in the last five years
[34:57.980 --> 35:00.420]  that hasn't been touched by it in some way.
[35:00.420 --> 35:03.460]  Either someone they know is suffering from cancer
[35:03.460 --> 35:07.700]  or some horrible chronic condition after getting the shot
[35:07.700 --> 35:08.900]  or they've lost somebody.
[35:08.900 --> 35:12.020]  Like I lost my cousin who was 17
[35:12.020 --> 35:13.780]  who suddenly just drove into a tree
[35:13.780 --> 35:17.100]  and they didn't do an autopsy or look into it.
[35:17.100 --> 35:21.220]  And there's countless other people out there like that.
[35:21.220 --> 35:23.700]  And I mean, this was our family
[35:23.700 --> 35:25.460]  and people are still just kind of
[35:25.460 --> 35:28.380]  burying their heads in the sand and wanting to go on
[35:28.380 --> 35:29.780]  like it didn't happen.
[35:29.780 --> 35:30.620]  The amazing thing is-
[35:30.620 --> 35:32.180]  But our system is still set up
[35:32.180 --> 35:34.900]  to where it could still happen again.
[35:34.900 --> 35:37.580]  Like we haven't even held those people accountable.
[35:37.580 --> 35:40.980]  As a matter of fact, we put them back in office again.
[35:40.980 --> 35:44.740]  And so, you know, that's why to me, I look at it
[35:44.780 --> 35:47.140]  and what astounds me the most
[35:47.140 --> 35:51.180]  is just how effective the control of information has been.
[35:51.180 --> 35:53.220]  That's why what you're doing is so important.
[35:53.220 --> 35:55.580]  You've got to get out there and tell people what happened
[35:55.580 --> 35:59.300]  because as you point out, almost everybody I know as well,
[35:59.300 --> 36:01.140]  there's been somebody in their family,
[36:01.140 --> 36:03.860]  immediate or extended family that's been harmed by this.
[36:03.860 --> 36:06.060]  But everybody thinks that this is a one-off.
[36:06.060 --> 36:07.820]  It didn't happen to everybody else.
[36:07.820 --> 36:10.620]  They don't realize that it happened how broad this is
[36:10.620 --> 36:12.060]  and how extensive it is.
[36:12.060 --> 36:13.580]  And they think that they're alone.
[36:13.580 --> 36:15.740]  Just like they wanted us to think that we were alone
[36:15.740 --> 36:17.380]  if we saw what was happening
[36:17.380 --> 36:19.380]  and we weren't going to participate in it.
[36:19.380 --> 36:21.580]  Well, you're the only one who thinks like that.
[36:21.580 --> 36:23.020]  And we're not.
[36:23.020 --> 36:24.260]  You know, there's a lot of people out there
[36:24.260 --> 36:25.740]  who saw what was happening
[36:25.740 --> 36:28.620]  and were onto this scam from the very beginning.
[36:28.620 --> 36:33.060]  And I had the help of a person who gave me a heads up
[36:33.060 --> 36:34.740]  about a year before this happened.
[36:34.740 --> 36:38.500]  He said, there's a lot of chatter about Dark Winter 2.
[36:38.500 --> 36:40.180]  And he goes, you know what Dark Winter 1 was?
[36:40.180 --> 36:41.420]  And I was like, yeah, I know about that.
[36:41.420 --> 36:43.340]  And so when I saw all of this,
[36:44.060 --> 36:46.180]  it was falling right in the pattern of all these germ games.
[36:46.180 --> 36:48.940]  The very first one was two months before 9-11.
[36:48.940 --> 36:51.100]  So I knew exactly what was happening with this.
[36:51.100 --> 36:53.180]  And I also knew about the PCR test
[36:53.180 --> 36:54.300]  and what Kerry Mullis had said.
[36:54.300 --> 36:57.100]  Talk a little bit about what you saw with the PCR.
[36:58.180 --> 37:00.740]  Right, so that was another part of the Pandora's box
[37:00.740 --> 37:04.580]  that changed right at the beginning of March, 2020
[37:04.580 --> 37:06.540]  when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve
[37:06.540 --> 37:09.100]  and changed our whole lives upside down.
[37:09.100 --> 37:10.340]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[37:10.340 --> 37:12.420]  And I want you to pause what you're doing
[37:12.420 --> 37:13.500]  for just one minute.
[37:13.500 --> 37:16.300]  And I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[37:16.300 --> 37:19.780]  She lives in a remote community with very few resources
[37:19.780 --> 37:22.300]  and little to no healthcare.
[37:22.300 --> 37:24.300]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[37:24.300 --> 37:26.420]  her parents have no real options,
[37:26.420 --> 37:28.660]  no doctors in their community,
[37:28.660 --> 37:32.020]  and no money for real medical care.
[37:32.020 --> 37:34.780]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[37:34.780 --> 37:38.100]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
[37:38.100 --> 37:40.900]  I can't take the pain anymore.
[37:40.940 --> 37:42.700]  I can't keep going.
[37:42.700 --> 37:45.500]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[37:45.500 --> 37:49.180]  who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[37:49.180 --> 37:52.660]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[37:52.660 --> 37:56.620]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[37:56.620 --> 37:59.860]  Now through compassion, Alejandra was treated
[37:59.860 --> 38:02.900]  and against all odds, she survived.
[38:02.900 --> 38:06.900]  She lived because someone just like you took action.
[38:06.900 --> 38:09.180]  Right now, unfortunately, there are children
[38:09.220 --> 38:11.980]  just like Alejandra who won't survive
[38:11.980 --> 38:14.540]  unless someone like you steps in.
[38:14.540 --> 38:18.320]  Compassion International partners with local churches,
[38:18.320 --> 38:21.340]  providing children with the support that they need,
[38:21.340 --> 38:25.360]  critical medical care, plus food, education,
[38:25.360 --> 38:29.440]  and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
[38:29.440 --> 38:33.220]  So help a child just like Alejandra today.
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[39:08.860 --> 39:13.180]  I noticed that before COVID,
[39:13.180 --> 39:15.900]  I worked in a university lab when I was in college,
[39:15.900 --> 39:19.220]  and we had what's called a rapid flu test.
[39:19.220 --> 39:22.320]  And it was something that, it was a nose swab too,
[39:22.320 --> 39:23.780]  or it could be a saliva swab,
[39:23.780 --> 39:25.460]  but it wasn't something that went all the way up
[39:25.460 --> 39:28.760]  to your brain like the COVID PCR swab did.
[39:29.900 --> 39:32.260]  And even the instructions, like us in the lab
[39:32.260 --> 39:35.300]  as lab assistants, one of the number one things we did
[39:35.300 --> 39:38.060]  was coach people on how to collect specimens properly,
[39:38.060 --> 39:39.580]  because it was our job to like screen them,
[39:39.580 --> 39:43.380]  make sure they were gonna work for the test.
[39:43.380 --> 39:45.980]  And if they weren't in a correct format
[39:45.980 --> 39:47.420]  to accept for the test,
[39:47.420 --> 39:49.420]  then we'd have to tell the nurse or doctor,
[39:49.420 --> 39:51.780]  we need you to go recollect that specimen.
[39:51.780 --> 39:53.300]  So these rapid flu tests,
[39:53.300 --> 39:54.820]  they had to be done within 15 minutes,
[39:54.820 --> 39:56.660]  and it was basically a PCR test.
[39:56.660 --> 40:01.420]  It didn't have the same cycle threshold part,
[40:01.420 --> 40:05.100]  so it was kind of a predecessor to the COVID-19 PCR test,
[40:05.980 --> 40:07.880]  but it wasn't done on every patient
[40:08.700 --> 40:11.080]  that had a cold or flu symptom or a pneumonia at all.
[40:11.080 --> 40:13.840]  It was only done on patients that came in
[40:13.840 --> 40:17.520]  like with a recurrent pneumonia that they couldn't cure
[40:17.520 --> 40:19.000]  or a recurrent cold,
[40:19.000 --> 40:21.580]  and it would be done to try and figure out
[40:21.580 --> 40:23.560]  which types of medications
[40:23.560 --> 40:26.000]  this particular disease would respond to.
[40:26.000 --> 40:28.320]  So it was like a case by case basis.
[40:28.320 --> 40:30.960]  It wasn't just everybody that walked into the hospital.
[40:30.960 --> 40:33.160]  And so when COVID-19 came around and they said,
[40:33.160 --> 40:36.920]  you need to stick this all the way up into people's brains,
[40:36.960 --> 40:41.960]  no saliva, and it has to be on every single person.
[40:42.080 --> 40:44.560]  Because I mean, it really flipped it at one point.
[40:44.560 --> 40:47.080]  It went from, you can't get the PCR test
[40:47.080 --> 40:49.040]  because they had a drive-through
[40:49.040 --> 40:52.020]  where you could go out into society at first,
[40:52.020 --> 40:54.440]  and you'd have to go to one of these PCR testing centers,
[40:54.440 --> 40:56.280]  and they'd say, you have to have symptoms.
[40:56.280 --> 40:57.780]  You can't get it unless you have symptoms.
[40:57.780 --> 40:58.880]  And then people were mad
[40:58.880 --> 41:00.840]  that they couldn't get the PCR test.
[41:00.840 --> 41:02.860]  And then overnight, it flipped to,
[41:02.860 --> 41:05.360]  now everybody has to get it for everything.
[41:05.360 --> 41:07.080]  You have to get it if you walk in the ER,
[41:07.080 --> 41:08.920]  even if you don't have COVID symptoms.
[41:08.920 --> 41:10.100]  And I thought that was weird.
[41:10.100 --> 41:12.000]  We never did that before.
[41:12.000 --> 41:15.200]  That is not supposed to be a screening test.
[41:15.200 --> 41:17.240]  It's supposed to be a diagnostic test
[41:17.240 --> 41:19.760]  because the screen is down when you don't have symptoms.
[41:19.760 --> 41:23.840]  It's trying to rule out if you're developing something.
[41:23.840 --> 41:26.840]  And they were telling us asymptomatic spread.
[41:26.840 --> 41:28.220]  Well, I could see in the hospital,
[41:28.220 --> 41:30.500]  there's no such thing as asymptomatic spread.
[41:30.500 --> 41:34.180]  This six feet thing is made up, masks don't work.
[41:34.180 --> 41:35.740]  I knew that from the very beginning
[41:35.740 --> 41:38.860]  because masks in the hospital had only been used
[41:38.860 --> 41:42.420]  for like collecting spittle over like a surgery case.
[41:42.420 --> 41:44.740]  It wasn't meant to like prevent germ spread.
[41:44.740 --> 41:48.580]  That was never part of our infection control.
[41:48.580 --> 41:52.220]  So I knew there was something up with these PCR tests.
[41:52.220 --> 41:53.860]  And I kept looking at the results.
[41:53.860 --> 41:57.500]  And finally I find that it's done by PCR.
[41:57.500 --> 41:59.900]  And I recall my time at a university lab
[41:59.900 --> 42:01.640]  when we were just starting PCR testing,
[42:01.640 --> 42:03.500]  cause this was early 2000s.
[42:03.500 --> 42:05.700]  And Mollis invented it like late 86
[42:05.700 --> 42:10.100]  is when the NIH took it up and started using PCR.
[42:10.100 --> 42:13.580]  So it got into healthcare early 2000s and all the texts,
[42:13.580 --> 42:15.300]  like my mom was a medical technologist.
[42:15.300 --> 42:17.940]  It was her job, which she actually ran one of these labs.
[42:17.940 --> 42:20.820]  It was her job to run those tests.
[42:20.820 --> 42:24.680]  And they were all talking like this was like their new tech.
[42:24.680 --> 42:27.740]  Like they were kidding and candy store excited about it.
[42:27.740 --> 42:30.380]  This PCR thing, but it was all genetic testing.
[42:30.380 --> 42:31.220]  It was genetic.
[42:31.220 --> 42:33.300]  It was done for cancer screening,
[42:34.100 --> 42:34.940]  which they thought was genetic.
[42:34.940 --> 42:38.540]  And it was done for like women that would like,
[42:38.540 --> 42:40.860]  they would call it genetic counseling.
[42:40.860 --> 42:43.940]  If you're a couple and you're a female and you go
[42:43.940 --> 42:45.300]  and you want to have genetic counseling,
[42:45.300 --> 42:49.620]  you can see if you have like a hereditary disease,
[42:49.620 --> 42:51.540]  like Huntington's, and then maybe decide
[42:51.540 --> 42:55.740]  if you want to continue with procreation or not.
[42:55.740 --> 42:57.060]  So it was genetic.
[42:57.060 --> 42:59.980]  So I thought why all of a sudden are we testing
[42:59.980 --> 43:01.820]  for viruses with PCR?
[43:01.820 --> 43:03.100]  Well, while I wasn't looking,
[43:03.900 --> 43:05.380]  because for 10 years I was a medical coder.
[43:05.380 --> 43:08.060]  So I wasn't really looking at what was going on in the lab
[43:08.060 --> 43:10.140]  until COVID happened.
[43:10.140 --> 43:14.100]  So then I find it's by PCR and I start looking at,
[43:14.100 --> 43:17.060]  well, there's obviously this problem with false positives.
[43:17.060 --> 43:19.700]  Even Elon Musk was saying, I got two tests in one day.
[43:19.700 --> 43:21.860]  One of them was negative, one of them was positive.
[43:21.860 --> 43:23.940]  And I could see the hospital was running over
[43:23.940 --> 43:25.940]  and over and over these PCR tests,
[43:25.940 --> 43:27.580]  waiting to get a positive result
[43:27.580 --> 43:29.320]  if they didn't get the right result.
[43:29.320 --> 43:32.340]  And I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
[43:32.380 --> 43:34.220]  What is going on here?
[43:34.220 --> 43:38.380]  And it fast forward to like after the PCR tests
[43:38.380 --> 43:42.260]  evolved a little bit toward the end of 2020 into 2021,
[43:43.940 --> 43:47.300]  they had what's called a PCR multiplex assay.
[43:47.300 --> 43:49.020]  So it was four different viruses
[43:49.020 --> 43:50.860]  they were actually monitoring.
[43:50.860 --> 43:55.540]  Flu A, Flu B, RSV, and COVID-19.
[43:56.620 --> 43:59.500]  And then the only one that ever came up positive
[43:59.860 --> 44:03.620]  for a whole year of running all four of these viruses
[44:03.620 --> 44:04.460]  was COVID.
[44:05.380 --> 44:08.860]  Not one flu, not one RSV.
[44:08.860 --> 44:11.180]  And they say we have a RSV pandemic now.
[44:12.220 --> 44:13.580]  It's such an amazing thing.
[44:13.580 --> 44:15.460]  And you know, we go back and we used to play the clips
[44:15.460 --> 44:17.980]  all the time of Mollus calling out Fauci
[44:17.980 --> 44:21.980]  because Fauci used the PCR test
[44:22.940 --> 44:26.340]  to claim that AIDS was caused by a virus.
[44:26.340 --> 44:29.460]  And that created a big back and forth between them
[44:30.460 --> 44:32.020]  and Mollus said, well, I'm not gonna get involved
[44:32.020 --> 44:34.500]  in that fight, but I'll tell you this,
[44:34.500 --> 44:37.900]  that you can't prove it using the PCR test.
[44:37.900 --> 44:40.020]  It can't be used as a diagnostic like that.
[44:40.020 --> 44:42.140]  And so it was very interesting
[44:42.140 --> 44:44.820]  because they also did not isolate the HIV,
[44:44.820 --> 44:48.540]  you know, the virus that supposedly caused AIDS either.
[44:48.540 --> 44:51.140]  And so this whole thing has been kind of a bluff.
[44:51.140 --> 44:55.500]  What it reminds me of Zoe is the polygraph tests.
[44:55.500 --> 44:57.740]  My wife used to be a district personnel manager
[44:57.740 --> 44:58.700]  for convenience stores.
[44:58.700 --> 45:00.860]  And what they would do if they would have,
[45:00.860 --> 45:02.260]  you know, massive shortages somewhere
[45:02.260 --> 45:03.300]  and they thought there was theft
[45:03.300 --> 45:05.020]  that was going on with the employees,
[45:05.020 --> 45:07.140]  they would call them in and polygraph them.
[45:07.140 --> 45:09.540]  And the polygraph did not work,
[45:09.540 --> 45:12.220]  but it only worked if people believed
[45:12.220 --> 45:16.260]  that it could tell them whether or not they were lying.
[45:16.260 --> 45:17.820]  And then they would tell the truth about it
[45:17.820 --> 45:19.300]  and make a confession, right?
[45:19.300 --> 45:21.420]  So it was simply a mind game that was being played
[45:21.420 --> 45:22.940]  on the people that were there.
[45:22.940 --> 45:25.780]  And that's what the PCR thing is.
[45:25.780 --> 45:27.180]  It really is a mind game,
[45:27.180 --> 45:29.940]  except that it's become something of a lie detector
[45:29.940 --> 45:31.460]  for the people who are administering it.
[45:31.460 --> 45:33.940]  We realize now that they are the liars
[45:33.940 --> 45:35.260]  who are putting this stuff out.
[45:35.260 --> 45:38.380]  I just had in a comment, Lance put up my producer,
[45:38.380 --> 45:40.500]  he said that video of Lutnick where he's talking about that
[45:40.500 --> 45:43.380]  reminds him of this scene out of the big short,
[45:43.380 --> 45:45.380]  which we just went back and watched again
[45:45.380 --> 45:47.500]  because of the AI bubble.
[45:47.500 --> 45:50.820]  And at one point this guy gets up and he's talking
[45:50.820 --> 45:53.980]  and one of the guys who's onto the whole scam says,
[45:53.980 --> 45:55.460]  why is he confessing?
[45:55.460 --> 45:58.340]  And the other guy says, he's not confessing, he's bragging.
[45:58.340 --> 46:01.380]  And that's basically what Lutnick was doing.
[46:01.380 --> 46:03.220]  He wasn't confessing about all this stuff,
[46:03.220 --> 46:04.700]  he was bragging about it.
[46:04.700 --> 46:07.460]  And he continues to get away with this kind of stuff.
[46:07.460 --> 46:08.300]  Truly is amazing.
[46:08.300 --> 46:10.860]  Yeah, well, what's even more nefarious
[46:10.860 --> 46:12.660]  about the PCR test is,
[46:12.660 --> 46:15.980]  so the false positive narrative that is only,
[46:15.980 --> 46:18.060]  it's about the cycle threshold, but you're correct.
[46:18.060 --> 46:21.340]  They didn't actually sequence the,
[46:21.340 --> 46:23.620]  they didn't sequence SARS-CoV-2.
[46:23.660 --> 46:26.300]  So they never had a sequence.
[46:26.300 --> 46:28.900]  They have what's called a consensus sequence,
[46:28.900 --> 46:32.300]  which is an average that an AI came up with.
[46:32.300 --> 46:34.860]  And that's what they use because they knew they would find
[46:34.860 --> 46:36.780]  this in a percentage of people.
[46:36.780 --> 46:38.140]  And then they could dial it in
[46:38.140 --> 46:40.380]  with the cycle threshold up or down.
[46:40.380 --> 46:41.820]  Same thing with the AIDS thing.
[46:41.820 --> 46:45.620]  They never isolated AIDS and they used their antibody tests
[46:45.620 --> 46:47.700]  at first, which could be dialed up or down
[46:47.700 --> 46:49.900]  in the same way as the cycle threshold.
[46:49.900 --> 46:52.300]  And David Rasnick, PhD who I've interviewed
[46:52.780 --> 46:53.740]  can vouch for that.
[46:53.740 --> 46:57.500]  He's got all the science on his webpage to prove all of that.
[46:58.420 --> 47:01.340]  But what I was looking past the cycle threshold,
[47:01.340 --> 47:04.740]  because I knew this test is dialed in for some reason,
[47:04.740 --> 47:07.740]  like they can predict the results somehow.
[47:07.740 --> 47:11.260]  And I needed to know how they were manipulating the test.
[47:11.260 --> 47:13.060]  And so I looked a little bit further
[47:13.060 --> 47:15.740]  and I find a document from the CDC
[47:15.740 --> 47:18.300]  that says for every COVID test,
[47:18.300 --> 47:21.100]  every CLIA certified lab, which is all of them,
[47:21.980 --> 47:24.540]  they all have to be in order to build insurance or anything,
[47:24.540 --> 47:26.740]  have to be CLIA certified,
[47:26.740 --> 47:30.820]  then they have to send a genetic sequence
[47:30.820 --> 47:35.820]  to one of two gene banks, either NCBI or GISAID gene banks.
[47:38.820 --> 47:41.380]  And it listed like eight different sequences.
[47:41.380 --> 47:45.500]  So they're saying the variants in the details.
[47:45.500 --> 47:49.660]  But if you look at some of these labs
[47:49.660 --> 47:51.380]  that were running PCR tests
[47:51.380 --> 47:54.860]  and making all the money off running these PCR tests,
[47:54.860 --> 47:58.500]  they could also take that same sample off that machine,
[47:58.500 --> 48:01.540]  put it on another machine, run a sequence.
[48:01.540 --> 48:03.700]  And they needed to, in order to comply
[48:03.700 --> 48:06.860]  with the CDC's directive to send genetic sequences
[48:06.860 --> 48:08.540]  to these gene banks.
[48:08.540 --> 48:10.100]  And I interviewed David Rasnick,
[48:10.100 --> 48:11.940]  who is a chemistry professor
[48:11.940 --> 48:14.500]  who worked with Carey Mullis and knew Carey Mullis.
[48:14.500 --> 48:15.540]  I asked him directly,
[48:15.540 --> 48:18.460]  do you think that they were just clipping
[48:18.500 --> 48:22.060]  a tiny little section of the genetic code
[48:22.060 --> 48:24.180]  and then sending it to these gene banks?
[48:24.180 --> 48:26.500]  Or do you think they were getting the entire sequence?
[48:26.500 --> 48:28.980]  And he says, well, they're running a lab.
[48:28.980 --> 48:29.980]  They're busy.
[48:29.980 --> 48:33.380]  They're not really thinking about taking the time
[48:33.380 --> 48:34.860]  to clip out a sequence.
[48:34.860 --> 48:35.820]  So could they?
[48:35.820 --> 48:36.660]  Yes.
[48:36.660 --> 48:38.220]  But would they really do that?
[48:38.220 --> 48:39.900]  No, it'd be so much easier for them
[48:39.900 --> 48:41.260]  to just send the whole thing
[48:41.260 --> 48:44.140]  and then let the gene bank decide which part
[48:44.140 --> 48:48.180]  that they want to determine is the variance of concern.
[48:49.340 --> 48:52.980]  So they were, and you look at the different gene banks,
[48:52.980 --> 48:54.780]  there's one called DataVance,
[48:54.780 --> 48:57.060]  which is now a public-private partnership.
[48:57.060 --> 48:59.100]  You look at the Human Genome Project,
[48:59.100 --> 49:04.100]  which is now BGI Genetics, I think, in China,
[49:04.300 --> 49:06.340]  which is their biggest biotech company.
[49:06.340 --> 49:09.060]  And there's billions of billions of dollars
[49:09.060 --> 49:11.540]  in collecting our DNA.
[49:11.540 --> 49:13.300]  And what they say they're using it for
[49:13.340 --> 49:17.260]  is to, and now we have Larry Ellison actually admitting it
[49:17.260 --> 49:19.180]  day two of the Trump administration,
[49:19.180 --> 49:20.540]  that they're going to use AI,
[49:20.540 --> 49:22.900]  which is what they use to get the consensus sequence
[49:22.900 --> 49:25.220]  that they dial the PCR test in with.
[49:26.540 --> 49:29.140]  They're going to use AI to look at our blood
[49:29.140 --> 49:34.140]  and then make a drug or a therapeutic or a vaccine
[49:34.300 --> 49:37.540]  tailored to our individual genome.
[49:37.540 --> 49:39.340]  And now there's a massive industry
[49:39.340 --> 49:41.220]  of all these big tech oligarchs
[49:41.220 --> 49:45.180]  that are using AI to develop different vaccines
[49:45.180 --> 49:48.140]  or different therapeutics, biotech therapeutics
[49:48.140 --> 49:50.100]  tailored to the individual genome.
[49:50.100 --> 49:52.580]  So whether or not they're successful with this technology,
[49:52.580 --> 49:55.220]  there's a whole bunch of money invested in it.
[49:55.220 --> 49:59.500]  So I think PCR was actually a data mining operation
[49:59.500 --> 50:01.620]  as well as a money laundering operation.
[50:01.620 --> 50:02.700]  That's interesting, yeah.
[50:02.700 --> 50:05.620]  And of course, if they want to make a bioweapon
[50:05.620 --> 50:08.220]  that is going to target certain groups of people,
[50:08.220 --> 50:10.700]  that makes it very easy to do that as well.
[50:11.260 --> 50:12.380]  When you look at the PCR,
[50:12.380 --> 50:14.340]  Handy, who also has a substack
[50:14.340 --> 50:16.220]  and he's been a regular listener
[50:16.220 --> 50:17.740]  and commenter on the program,
[50:17.740 --> 50:21.420]  he worked in hospitals and he said,
[50:21.420 --> 50:22.900]  he was suspicious of these things,
[50:22.900 --> 50:27.100]  finally got a nurse to take one of these swabs
[50:27.100 --> 50:30.060]  right out of the package and run it through
[50:30.060 --> 50:33.660]  and got a positive test without swapping anybody.
[50:33.660 --> 50:36.100]  So some of these, it was such garbage.
[50:36.100 --> 50:38.180]  I mean, either it's preloaded with something
[50:38.180 --> 50:40.860]  or the PCR test is just so off the charts
[50:40.860 --> 50:42.340]  with its magnification,
[50:42.340 --> 50:43.900]  whatever you can find anything anywhere,
[50:43.900 --> 50:44.740]  Kerry Mullis said.
[50:44.740 --> 50:47.060]  Well, didn't the president of Tanzania,
[50:47.060 --> 50:50.140]  I think he did some PCR tests on like a papaya
[50:50.140 --> 50:53.340]  and like a Coca-Cola and got positive results too.
[50:53.340 --> 50:55.740]  That's right, it's total nonsense and garbage.
[50:55.740 --> 50:58.780]  And I remember when they had the Cannes Film Festival,
[50:58.780 --> 51:01.180]  it was in the summer of 2020
[51:01.180 --> 51:04.220]  and he had all these elitists who somehow they got there,
[51:04.220 --> 51:05.300]  I guess on their private jets,
[51:05.300 --> 51:06.740]  didn't have to get screened too much.
[51:06.740 --> 51:09.220]  But anyway, they're there and they were complaining
[51:09.220 --> 51:11.340]  that they had to do spit tests.
[51:11.340 --> 51:12.700]  They said, that's disgusting.
[51:12.700 --> 51:13.860]  We got a spit in this thing
[51:13.860 --> 51:15.460]  and they got to test it and so forth.
[51:15.460 --> 51:17.460]  I said, yeah, so why don't they allow us
[51:17.460 --> 51:19.260]  to do a spit test, right?
[51:19.260 --> 51:21.780]  They got to ram that thing up your nose,
[51:21.780 --> 51:22.620]  but you don't get that.
[51:22.620 --> 51:25.860]  But the elites, the jet setters, the private jets,
[51:25.860 --> 51:27.860]  they get the spit test or whatever.
[51:27.860 --> 51:29.780]  Oh my God, that's funny.
[51:29.780 --> 51:30.620]  All this stuff was just so ridiculous.
[51:30.620 --> 51:32.940]  When I worked in the university lab,
[51:32.940 --> 51:35.540]  there was something called sputum testing,
[51:35.540 --> 51:36.620]  which is exactly that.
[51:36.620 --> 51:39.140]  You basically hawk a loogie into a cup
[51:39.140 --> 51:41.980]  and it was the most disgusting sample
[51:41.980 --> 51:44.820]  I ever had to deal with when I worked in the lab.
[51:44.820 --> 51:46.580]  And I make a joke in my book,
[51:46.580 --> 51:51.380]  we all were spared that they didn't make that the test
[51:51.380 --> 51:52.500]  that we had to do.
[51:53.820 --> 51:56.100]  But you're telling me that's what the elites do.
[51:56.100 --> 51:57.700]  Yeah, I think that's preferable
[51:57.700 --> 51:59.500]  to have that thing ram rotted up your nose.
[51:59.500 --> 52:01.420]  I guess I didn't have that done to me.
[52:01.420 --> 52:03.580]  So I went through the whole thing
[52:03.580 --> 52:05.300]  without having a PCR test.
[52:06.060 --> 52:06.900]  Sorry, go ahead.
[52:06.900 --> 52:07.740]  Me neither.
[52:07.740 --> 52:09.580]  That was another reason why I walked out
[52:09.580 --> 52:12.460]  because if I were to stay in the hospital,
[52:12.460 --> 52:16.180]  they are stay working for them and get the exemption
[52:16.180 --> 52:18.980]  that I was gonna have to take a PCR test every week.
[52:18.980 --> 52:21.300]  And I didn't want to have to take a PCR test.
[52:21.300 --> 52:24.260]  I was pretty sure they were gonna be collecting our DNA
[52:24.260 --> 52:27.940]  with it or sensing if we're vaccinated or not,
[52:27.940 --> 52:30.420]  or somehow tying that in with the vaccine passport.
[52:30.420 --> 52:32.580]  I wasn't entirely sure how it was gonna work,
[52:32.580 --> 52:35.660]  but I knew that it wasn't what they were telling us
[52:35.660 --> 52:37.740]  and I wasn't about to play along.
[52:37.740 --> 52:39.820]  So that was another reason why I couldn't.
[52:39.820 --> 52:41.260]  And of course, some of the other things too,
[52:41.260 --> 52:44.580]  were some people did some zoomed in on the microscope
[52:44.580 --> 52:47.700]  looking at the tip of the swab and said, look at this,
[52:47.700 --> 52:50.740]  here's one of the cotton swab and here's this PCR thing
[52:50.740 --> 52:52.220]  that's got all these spikes on it.
[52:52.220 --> 52:54.500]  And if I run it across some of these things,
[52:54.500 --> 52:56.020]  those spikes stick and stay.
[52:56.020 --> 52:58.780]  So are they actually implanting something into you?
[53:00.100 --> 53:01.620]  I did some research on it
[53:01.620 --> 53:04.300]  and I found there were two chemicals
[53:04.300 --> 53:05.860]  on the tip of the swab.
[53:05.860 --> 53:08.940]  One of them was ethylene oxide and that alone can like,
[53:08.940 --> 53:11.140]  they were putting it way up in your nose
[53:11.140 --> 53:13.580]  where your pineal gland is your third eye,
[53:13.580 --> 53:15.300]  which is right at the top.
[53:15.300 --> 53:17.660]  So putting that chemical right there
[53:17.660 --> 53:19.740]  is known to cause cancer.
[53:19.740 --> 53:20.980]  And so the more you do it,
[53:20.980 --> 53:22.860]  the more personogenic it's gonna be.
[53:22.860 --> 53:24.940]  And then it also has a chemical property
[53:24.940 --> 53:29.140]  where it will basically block and calcify your pineal gland
[53:29.140 --> 53:30.900]  so it like closes your third eye.
[53:30.900 --> 53:34.260]  And it's also a way that your brain can sense light.
[53:34.260 --> 53:39.260]  It's how your body basically like synchronizes hormones
[53:39.380 --> 53:40.300]  throughout your whole body.
[53:40.300 --> 53:44.060]  So it can like change your whole endocrine system
[53:44.060 --> 53:45.500]  if you set off your,
[53:45.500 --> 53:48.500]  if you close or calcify your pineal gland.
[53:48.500 --> 53:50.060]  So all sorts of things could happen
[53:50.060 --> 53:51.660]  just with that one chemical.
[53:51.660 --> 53:54.780]  But I think there was also graphene oxide on there.
[53:54.780 --> 53:57.020]  There was different schools that said
[53:57.020 --> 54:00.900]  they have been given these special masks even
[54:00.900 --> 54:02.940]  that had graphene in them similar,
[54:02.940 --> 54:06.060]  like the exact same phenomenon about the fibers
[54:06.060 --> 54:09.340]  that actually move and respond to magnetics.
[54:09.340 --> 54:12.580]  Well, graphene oxide has a magnetic property to it.
[54:12.580 --> 54:15.220]  That's why they wanted to use it.
[54:15.220 --> 54:17.820]  But it's also supposed to be clean.
[54:17.820 --> 54:18.780]  So they were saying like,
[54:18.780 --> 54:22.660]  we're using this to make it antibacterial
[54:22.660 --> 54:25.180]  because it has antibacterial properties.
[54:26.140 --> 54:30.100]  But both the swabs and some of the masks
[54:30.100 --> 54:35.100]  had graphene fibers in them that could maybe do that.
[54:35.860 --> 54:38.860]  And I have no idea what that would do
[54:38.860 --> 54:42.020]  if you shove it up your nose over and over and over.
[54:42.020 --> 54:43.980]  So they can inject the graphene into you.
[54:43.980 --> 54:46.180]  They can get it in there another way.
[54:46.180 --> 54:48.420]  And of course, I've mentioned this many times too.
[54:48.420 --> 54:50.180]  There's a couple of different batches,
[54:50.180 --> 54:54.220]  each of them over a million of these shots in Japan.
[54:54.260 --> 54:56.940]  And they noticed that they were getting black particulates.
[54:56.940 --> 54:57.860]  I don't know if it happened
[54:57.860 --> 54:58.740]  because they didn't keep them
[54:58.740 --> 55:01.140]  at the super cold temperatures or whatever.
[55:01.140 --> 55:04.460]  But they noticed black particulates
[55:04.460 --> 55:08.260]  and they said they reacted with magnets.
[55:08.260 --> 55:09.420]  Yeah, so what is that?
[55:09.420 --> 55:12.060]  But they were, end of story.
[55:12.060 --> 55:13.700]  No more talking about that.
[55:13.700 --> 55:15.500]  And the Japanese government threw away
[55:15.500 --> 55:17.260]  a couple million of these vaccines
[55:17.260 --> 55:18.660]  because of that type of thing.
[55:18.660 --> 55:21.660]  But yeah, there's just so many issues there.
[55:21.660 --> 55:25.540]  And people have been lied to so thoroughly
[55:25.540 --> 55:26.380]  about all this stuff.
[55:26.380 --> 55:28.420]  This is why it's not a dead issue.
[55:28.420 --> 55:29.660]  It is still alive
[55:29.660 --> 55:32.100]  and they're gonna try to do all this stuff again.
[55:32.100 --> 55:33.380]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[55:33.380 --> 55:36.060]  And I want to be honest with you for a second
[55:36.060 --> 55:38.980]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[55:38.980 --> 55:40.100]  A couple of years ago,
[55:40.100 --> 55:42.300]  I made the choice to partner
[55:42.300 --> 55:44.420]  with an amazing organization called
[55:44.420 --> 55:46.020]  Compassion International.
[55:46.020 --> 55:46.860]  Why?
[55:46.860 --> 55:50.020]  Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[55:50.060 --> 55:51.940]  It was a nice idea, sure.
[55:51.940 --> 55:55.700]  But I had no idea just how much that simple act
[55:55.700 --> 55:57.780]  would change my life as well.
[55:57.780 --> 56:00.900]  I sponsored Nadia and got to watch her life
[56:00.900 --> 56:02.980]  change right in front of my eyes.
[56:02.980 --> 56:06.540]  Going from starving literally alone on the streets
[56:06.540 --> 56:08.700]  to getting the healthcare and education
[56:08.700 --> 56:12.660]  she needs to reach her God given full potential.
[56:12.660 --> 56:14.820]  I got to be a part of that change.
[56:14.820 --> 56:16.780]  And the light of that compassion
[56:16.780 --> 56:18.780]  not only illuminates in her,
[56:18.780 --> 56:20.820]  it illuminates now in me.
[56:20.820 --> 56:23.420]  That is the power of compassion.
[56:23.420 --> 56:27.020]  The light of Christ shines on all of us.
[56:27.020 --> 56:31.140]  Feel it for yourself and change literally a child's life.
[56:31.140 --> 56:34.220]  Change the world and you also change yourself.
[56:34.220 --> 56:36.140]  You can sponsor a child today.
[56:36.140 --> 56:38.740]  Visit Compassion.com.
[56:38.740 --> 56:42.220]  That's Compassion.com.
[56:42.220 --> 56:43.060]  You know what?
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[56:44.860 --> 56:45.940]  But when I get on my phone
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[57:12.140 --> 57:14.700]  And since it worked so well,
[57:14.700 --> 57:16.580]  they will use the same tactics again.
[57:16.580 --> 57:17.500]  That's why it's very important
[57:17.500 --> 57:19.580]  to talk about these different tactics.
[57:19.580 --> 57:20.420]  And that's what you do with them.
[57:20.420 --> 57:21.500]  Well, they're using.
[57:21.500 --> 57:22.780]  Yes. Right.
[57:22.780 --> 57:25.460]  They're moving forward with the mRNA.
[57:25.460 --> 57:27.940]  I mean, they're not only putting it in our food.
[57:27.940 --> 57:29.340]  Like we've probably heard,
[57:29.340 --> 57:31.420]  I'm sure your audience has heard about the bird flu
[57:31.420 --> 57:33.980]  and how they're doing the self-amplifying
[57:33.980 --> 57:36.340]  bird flu injections for poultry.
[57:36.340 --> 57:38.780]  And they're trying to get it in cattle.
[57:38.780 --> 57:41.540]  And they've had mRNA shots in pork.
[57:41.540 --> 57:43.860]  So almost all the pork is tainted now
[57:43.900 --> 57:46.020]  since like 2018.
[57:46.020 --> 57:47.500]  Now they're rolling it out for pets.
[57:47.500 --> 57:48.580]  So now when you go in,
[57:48.580 --> 57:52.420]  you have to get your annual rabies shot for your pets.
[57:52.420 --> 57:54.300]  Now that's gonna be mRNA.
[57:54.300 --> 57:56.940]  They're moving over to the mRNA platform
[57:56.940 --> 57:58.700]  for all the vaccines.
[57:58.700 --> 58:03.700]  So normies who might be a little cautious about COVID-19
[58:04.100 --> 58:07.140]  because they've heard the rumors by now, most of them.
[58:07.140 --> 58:12.020]  But they haven't heard that now your RSV, your flu,
[58:12.020 --> 58:14.180]  and a lot of even like the childhood vaccines
[58:14.180 --> 58:16.740]  are moving over to this mRNA platform
[58:16.740 --> 58:19.820]  where they get to bypass clinical trials.
[58:19.820 --> 58:20.740]  So it still hasn't been,
[58:20.740 --> 58:24.300]  this is an experiment that is now being rolled out
[58:24.300 --> 58:27.860]  to all our vaccines under the guise of,
[58:27.860 --> 58:29.220]  this is totally fine.
[58:29.220 --> 58:30.820]  This is normal science.
[58:30.820 --> 58:35.020]  We've totally tested this, but it's absolutely not.
[58:35.020 --> 58:36.780]  I mean, they've been had-
[58:36.780 --> 58:37.620]  That's right.
[58:37.620 --> 58:38.460]  People need to understand.
[58:38.460 --> 58:41.740]  For like three years, for the first one,
[58:42.460 --> 58:45.340]  we just barely passed the first part of monetary.
[58:45.340 --> 58:46.300]  That's right.
[58:46.300 --> 58:47.340]  And people need to understand
[58:47.340 --> 58:49.300]  that the guy who boasted about being the father
[58:49.300 --> 58:52.620]  of the vaccine, first things he did, as you pointed out,
[58:52.620 --> 58:54.100]  Stargate thing with Larry Ellison,
[58:54.100 --> 58:55.740]  where he's talking about, well, we're gonna use AI
[58:55.740 --> 58:58.100]  to design custom design this for your genetics.
[58:58.100 --> 59:01.260]  And then we will deliver it with an MRA platform.
[59:01.260 --> 59:03.940]  And the person that they put in as the,
[59:03.940 --> 59:06.700]  they chose to put in at the head of the CDC
[59:06.700 --> 59:08.220]  was Susan Monarez.
[59:08.220 --> 59:11.060]  And that had been what she was working on
[59:11.100 --> 59:14.380]  with BARDA and with ARPA-H
[59:14.380 --> 59:19.380]  and these dark bioweapon companies
[59:19.540 --> 59:22.020]  that are part of the government
[59:22.020 --> 59:25.100]  and the military industrial complex
[59:25.100 --> 59:27.900]  and the bioweapon platforms and things like that.
[59:27.900 --> 59:30.420]  So there's all these different threads
[59:30.420 --> 59:34.020]  that tie this throughout the Trump administration,
[59:34.020 --> 59:36.260]  pushing MRA for all these various things.
[59:36.260 --> 59:37.860]  And of course then, Brooke Rollins,
[59:37.860 --> 59:40.300]  who's the agricultural secretary,
[59:40.300 --> 59:43.100]  she decides on her own initiative
[59:43.100 --> 59:47.220]  that she's going to end this mass culling of chickens
[59:47.220 --> 59:50.780]  by authorizing the mRNA bird flu for chickens.
[59:50.780 --> 59:54.500]  And then they authorize it for other livestock as well.
[59:54.500 --> 59:56.420]  It is, the signals are all there
[59:56.420 --> 59:58.540]  that this is all still going on,
[59:58.540 --> 01:00:02.780]  that Trump is right at the epicenter of all this mRNA stuff.
[01:00:02.780 --> 01:00:06.500]  And I guess what we could call now the mRNA-I
[01:00:06.500 --> 01:00:08.460]  as in AI, artificial intelligence,
[01:00:08.460 --> 01:00:10.940]  it's all connected together, isn't it?
[01:00:10.940 --> 01:00:13.380]  Absolutely, it's a giant web
[01:00:13.380 --> 01:00:18.380]  and it is gonna be tied to our behavior scores
[01:00:18.980 --> 01:00:23.340]  and if we comply, how much we comply with it.
[01:00:23.340 --> 01:00:25.940]  Looking at who's monitoring the DNA,
[01:00:25.940 --> 01:00:29.900]  where they have to report the PCR results
[01:00:29.900 --> 01:00:34.900]  to who's hiding the adverse effects of the vaccine,
[01:00:35.980 --> 01:00:37.260]  putting that all together
[01:00:37.260 --> 01:00:42.260]  and looking at where are they actually,
[01:00:42.500 --> 01:00:46.020]  where are we reporting all of these PCR results
[01:00:46.020 --> 01:00:51.020]  and where are we reporting the COVID-19 case numbers?
[01:00:51.220 --> 01:00:53.660]  And now we actually have a code
[01:00:53.660 --> 01:00:56.500]  to report the COVID-19 adverse effects,
[01:00:56.500 --> 01:00:58.940]  but it's still not being used.
[01:00:58.940 --> 01:01:02.220]  So looking at that and trying to figure out
[01:01:02.220 --> 01:01:06.900]  where the code was and why we're not able to report it still,
[01:01:06.900 --> 01:01:09.060]  I happen to find that every agency
[01:01:09.060 --> 01:01:12.300]  involved in monitoring COVID-19 cases
[01:01:12.300 --> 01:01:15.420]  and vaccination tracking specifically
[01:01:15.420 --> 01:01:17.620]  because there's so many vaccine registries,
[01:01:17.620 --> 01:01:21.380]  it blows your mind, it's tied to national security.
[01:01:21.380 --> 01:01:22.220]  Oh yeah.
[01:01:22.220 --> 01:01:24.980]  So it's a matter of national security
[01:01:24.980 --> 01:01:27.540]  if you participate in this scheme or not.
[01:01:28.580 --> 01:01:29.900]  Yeah, and this was all DARPA
[01:01:29.900 --> 01:01:33.380]  and it was all the military and the intelligence agencies
[01:01:33.380 --> 01:01:36.020]  and all of the dark winter stuff they had,
[01:01:36.060 --> 01:01:38.100]  Fauci and the former head of the CIA
[01:01:38.100 --> 01:01:40.460]  was playing the role of the president
[01:01:40.460 --> 01:01:42.780]  during the first germ game in dark winter.
[01:01:42.780 --> 01:01:45.020]  I mean, it's all the usual suspects
[01:01:45.020 --> 01:01:46.500]  that are involved in all this stuff.
[01:01:46.500 --> 01:01:48.860]  It really is a bioweapon
[01:01:48.860 --> 01:01:52.180]  that is really targeted to the population
[01:01:52.180 --> 01:01:54.300]  and it truly is amazing.
[01:01:54.300 --> 01:01:57.020]  I think they're even gonna try and do more data mining,
[01:01:57.020 --> 01:02:00.140]  like go even further than PCR testing
[01:02:00.140 --> 01:02:04.020]  with the wearables rollout that we're getting now
[01:02:04.020 --> 01:02:06.220]  because the information,
[01:02:06.220 --> 01:02:11.220]  like when I learned that our COVID-19 case numbers,
[01:02:11.260 --> 01:02:14.100]  the PCR test is actually getting reported
[01:02:15.020 --> 01:02:19.420]  to foreign countries and our DNA is being data mined
[01:02:19.420 --> 01:02:22.340]  and they're able to tell if we've had a vaccine or not,
[01:02:22.340 --> 01:02:24.740]  what's our ethnicity, where we are,
[01:02:24.740 --> 01:02:25.740]  how much money we make,
[01:02:25.740 --> 01:02:28.420]  like they're layering all of this information
[01:02:28.420 --> 01:02:29.980]  and during operation work speed,
[01:02:29.980 --> 01:02:32.780]  they had a program called Tiberius
[01:02:32.780 --> 01:02:35.500]  which was used in hospitals.
[01:02:35.500 --> 01:02:37.260]  There's different Palantir programs
[01:02:37.260 --> 01:02:39.540]  that are used in hospitals to monitor
[01:02:39.540 --> 01:02:42.540]  and manage the hospital down to like staffing.
[01:02:42.540 --> 01:02:44.220]  There was even a program that was part
[01:02:44.220 --> 01:02:47.780]  of operation work speed called HHS Protect
[01:02:47.780 --> 01:02:49.260]  and the hospitals had to report
[01:02:49.260 --> 01:02:50.780]  how many ventilators were in use,
[01:02:50.780 --> 01:02:52.500]  how many patients were there.
[01:02:54.540 --> 01:02:56.980]  I don't know why my camera just stopped.
[01:02:56.980 --> 01:02:57.980]  That was weird.
[01:02:57.980 --> 01:02:59.580]  Well, I still have audio.
[01:03:00.580 --> 01:03:01.980]  Literally just, I didn't do it.
[01:03:01.980 --> 01:03:03.060]  You're back, you're back.
[01:03:03.060 --> 01:03:04.380]  That's good, you're back.
[01:03:06.100 --> 01:03:08.900]  So they had this program that hospitals had to report
[01:03:08.900 --> 01:03:12.700]  how many ventilators, how many patients are in the ICU,
[01:03:12.700 --> 01:03:15.340]  how much remdesivir we were using,
[01:03:15.340 --> 01:03:18.820]  what's our census report, like all kinds of information
[01:03:18.820 --> 01:03:21.260]  that even the hospital didn't want to have to report
[01:03:21.260 --> 01:03:24.500]  in addition to all the other data mining we were doing
[01:03:24.500 --> 01:03:29.500]  and that program was a Palantir program called Tiberius
[01:03:29.780 --> 01:03:32.660]  which it's used in Gaza
[01:03:32.660 --> 01:03:36.500]  and that's the one that they use to assign risk scores.
[01:03:36.500 --> 01:03:38.780]  Well, they used that here already in America
[01:03:38.780 --> 01:03:40.820]  during operation work speed
[01:03:40.820 --> 01:03:42.900]  to figure out if you were vaccinated or not,
[01:03:42.900 --> 01:03:46.500]  to target different ethnic groups for vaccines
[01:03:46.500 --> 01:03:48.580]  and then to figure out where the countermeasures
[01:03:48.580 --> 01:03:50.700]  as in where did the ventilators need to go?
[01:03:50.700 --> 01:03:53.580]  Where did the remdesivir need to go?
[01:03:53.580 --> 01:03:57.380]  So they've already had these programs in place
[01:03:57.380 --> 01:03:59.420]  that are tied into our medical records
[01:04:00.260 --> 01:04:01.820]  and then to hear Larry Ellison say,
[01:04:01.820 --> 01:04:04.660]  we're gonna use your medical records and your DNA,
[01:04:04.660 --> 01:04:08.580]  your personal data to design stuff directly to you
[01:04:08.580 --> 01:04:10.300]  and then in addition they say,
[01:04:10.300 --> 01:04:12.260]  we're gonna put wearables on you.
[01:04:12.260 --> 01:04:16.300]  They're going to monitor your body at all times
[01:04:16.300 --> 01:04:18.300]  for the purposes of national security
[01:04:18.300 --> 01:04:20.140]  and I don't know how that doesn't send shivers
[01:04:20.140 --> 01:04:22.580]  down the spine of every single citizen in this country.
[01:04:22.580 --> 01:04:23.420]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:04:23.420 --> 01:04:24.780]  I mean, we look at their big data thing
[01:04:24.780 --> 01:04:27.500]  that they have to have total information awareness.
[01:04:27.540 --> 01:04:29.620]  Remember how everybody was creeped out about that
[01:04:29.620 --> 01:04:31.660]  and yet that is what this really is,
[01:04:31.660 --> 01:04:33.060]  the implementation of this.
[01:04:33.060 --> 01:04:35.020]  The big data is looking at everything that you're doing,
[01:04:35.020 --> 01:04:38.140]  not just online but they've got to get it out of cyberspace
[01:04:38.140 --> 01:04:41.780]  into physical space with all these other aspects of it
[01:04:41.780 --> 01:04:44.500]  and companies like Palantir,
[01:04:44.500 --> 01:04:47.700]  they have been focused on geospatial intelligence
[01:04:47.700 --> 01:04:52.420]  and data mining and drawing all these conclusions
[01:04:52.420 --> 01:04:54.500]  about people's politics or religion and so forth
[01:04:54.500 --> 01:04:57.180]  based just on even geospatial intelligence.
[01:04:57.180 --> 01:05:00.380]  When they get to additional factors like this,
[01:05:01.380 --> 01:05:03.100]  they know everything about you
[01:05:03.100 --> 01:05:05.260]  and we're not allowed to know anything
[01:05:05.260 --> 01:05:07.380]  about what they do or the results.
[01:05:07.380 --> 01:05:09.220]  That's why it really is at its essence
[01:05:09.220 --> 01:05:10.740]  that is an information war
[01:05:10.740 --> 01:05:15.020]  because all the information is flowing in one direction
[01:05:15.020 --> 01:05:17.940]  and they have an insatiable appetite
[01:05:17.940 --> 01:05:20.220]  to know everything about everybody.
[01:05:20.220 --> 01:05:23.180]  It is part and parcel of their control,
[01:05:23.180 --> 01:05:26.500]  this total knowledge about everyone and everything
[01:05:26.700 --> 01:05:29.660]  and now AI and especially companies like Palantir
[01:05:29.660 --> 01:05:32.020]  have given them the ability to go through
[01:05:32.020 --> 01:05:34.020]  and collate this massive amount of data
[01:05:34.020 --> 01:05:35.980]  that they've been collecting for some time.
[01:05:35.980 --> 01:05:37.580]  Now they can make sense of it
[01:05:37.580 --> 01:05:39.660]  because it was so much information
[01:05:39.660 --> 01:05:40.980]  they've been collecting on people,
[01:05:40.980 --> 01:05:42.540]  they couldn't sort through it with humans
[01:05:42.540 --> 01:05:45.820]  and so now they've got the AI that can sort through this.
[01:05:45.820 --> 01:05:48.540]  That is what's so concerning about all of this.
[01:05:49.500 --> 01:05:51.660]  It really is because when you go on social media
[01:05:51.660 --> 01:05:53.380]  and you're fed an algorithm of like
[01:05:53.380 --> 01:05:56.300]  which posts do you get to see today,
[01:05:57.140 --> 01:06:00.420]  that's going to be how our whole lives are run
[01:06:00.420 --> 01:06:02.140]  and I don't know how many people I've known
[01:06:02.140 --> 01:06:03.900]  complain about their algorithm.
[01:06:03.900 --> 01:06:06.060]  Oh, it's just, it's triggering me today
[01:06:06.060 --> 01:06:08.060]  or I don't know why my algorithm's all screwed up
[01:06:08.060 --> 01:06:09.500]  and it's showing me blah, blah.
[01:06:09.500 --> 01:06:11.780]  Well, imagine if that same algorithm
[01:06:11.780 --> 01:06:13.900]  is now your government gets to make decisions
[01:06:13.900 --> 01:06:15.420]  about if you're a good person or not
[01:06:15.420 --> 01:06:17.020]  and if you get to go out today
[01:06:17.020 --> 01:06:18.100]  or if you get to eat today
[01:06:18.100 --> 01:06:19.780]  or if you get to use your money today.
[01:06:19.780 --> 01:06:21.420]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:06:21.420 --> 01:06:22.620]  Yeah, it's all about total control
[01:06:22.620 --> 01:06:25.500]  and of course that guy Lucky Lutnick,
[01:06:26.380 --> 01:06:28.900]  who is bragging about how much money he can make
[01:06:28.900 --> 01:06:32.940]  knowing that the government was going to just flood cash
[01:06:32.940 --> 01:06:34.860]  into these pharmaceutical companies.
[01:06:34.860 --> 01:06:37.460]  Now I can go in and I can make money off of that, right?
[01:06:37.460 --> 01:06:39.460]  So he's got this insider information
[01:06:39.460 --> 01:06:41.660]  and he's the guy that's gonna be doing
[01:06:41.660 --> 01:06:46.140]  the new public-private version of a CBDC
[01:06:46.140 --> 01:06:49.100]  and once they know all your financial transactions,
[01:06:49.100 --> 01:06:51.940]  all the rest, any part of this puzzle
[01:06:51.940 --> 01:06:54.860]  would give them pretty much total control over your life
[01:06:54.860 --> 01:06:57.620]  but they've got so many different facets
[01:06:57.620 --> 01:07:00.540]  where they are monitoring and collating information
[01:07:00.540 --> 01:07:04.540]  about you that it truly is just overwhelming
[01:07:04.540 --> 01:07:05.620]  to even try to think about it.
[01:07:05.620 --> 01:07:09.020]  But again, it's the ignorance and the darkness
[01:07:09.020 --> 01:07:11.780]  that they have fooled everybody with.
[01:07:11.780 --> 01:07:13.740]  That's why it's so important what you're doing
[01:07:13.740 --> 01:07:18.740]  and again, the site is thrillkillmedicalcult.com
[01:07:19.340 --> 01:07:21.460]  and you're also on Substack
[01:07:21.460 --> 01:07:26.460]  and people find that at zowe.substack.com
[01:07:27.060 --> 01:07:30.860]  and it's very important for people to use this information
[01:07:30.860 --> 01:07:33.540]  to try to wake people up as to what's going on.
[01:07:33.540 --> 01:07:36.140]  They've not only hidden stuff from people
[01:07:36.140 --> 01:07:38.380]  but they have, in terms of inoculation,
[01:07:38.380 --> 01:07:42.500]  the one thing they've inoculated you against is the truth
[01:07:42.500 --> 01:07:44.740]  and they've inoculated you against questioning
[01:07:44.740 --> 01:07:47.740]  what they tell people and that's why you need to
[01:07:47.740 --> 01:07:51.020]  try to wake people up with sites like Zoe's as well.
[01:07:51.540 --> 01:07:53.820]  So is there anything else that you would like to hit?
[01:07:55.380 --> 01:07:58.220]  I just, if anyone is interested,
[01:07:58.220 --> 01:08:01.540]  I'm gonna be doing a memorial for the people
[01:08:01.540 --> 01:08:04.060]  that we've lost to hospital protocols
[01:08:04.060 --> 01:08:09.060]  and vaccine injured, including women who may have had
[01:08:09.140 --> 01:08:14.140]  a stillbirth or a miscarriage due to the shot.
[01:08:15.260 --> 01:08:19.700]  So if you go to my website, there's a page called Vigil
[01:08:19.700 --> 01:08:22.660]  and if you'd like to submit a name of a loved one,
[01:08:22.660 --> 01:08:24.620]  you don't have to tell us anything more,
[01:08:24.620 --> 01:08:25.900]  just the name of a loved one.
[01:08:25.900 --> 01:08:29.540]  You could even just put baby boy or baby girl if you like
[01:08:29.540 --> 01:08:32.940]  and we're gonna be lighting a candle
[01:08:32.940 --> 01:08:35.820]  in remembrance of your loved ones.
[01:08:36.820 --> 01:08:40.020]  So if you like, please go in and submit a name
[01:08:40.020 --> 01:08:41.700]  and we will honor your loss.
[01:08:41.700 --> 01:08:42.820]  It's important.
[01:08:42.820 --> 01:08:44.860]  We cannot forget what they've done to us
[01:08:44.860 --> 01:08:47.260]  and we cannot forget those that they have killed.
[01:08:47.260 --> 01:08:49.540]  That's absolutely vital.
[01:08:49.580 --> 01:08:50.980]  Thank you so much for what you do.
[01:08:50.980 --> 01:08:55.980]  Again, Zoe Smith, her website is thrillkillmedicalcult.com
[01:08:57.380 --> 01:09:01.500]  and you can find her on Substack at zoe.substack.com
[01:09:01.500 --> 01:09:03.660]  and she spells Zoe, Z-O-W-E.
[01:09:03.660 --> 01:09:05.340]  Thank you so much for joining us.
[01:09:05.340 --> 01:09:07.060]  We're gonna take a quick break, folks,
[01:09:07.060 --> 01:09:08.380]  and we will be right back.
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[01:10:08.460 --> 01:10:11.100]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause
[01:10:11.100 --> 01:10:12.940]  what you're doing for just one minute
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[01:10:15.740 --> 01:10:19.220]  She lives in a remote community with very few resources
[01:10:19.220 --> 01:10:21.700]  and little to no healthcare.
[01:10:21.700 --> 01:10:23.700]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[01:10:23.700 --> 01:10:25.820]  her parents have no real options,
[01:10:25.820 --> 01:10:28.060]  no doctors in their community,
[01:10:28.060 --> 01:10:31.460]  and no money for real medical care.
[01:10:31.460 --> 01:10:34.180]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[01:10:34.260 --> 01:10:37.580]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
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[01:10:40.380 --> 01:10:42.180]  I can't keep going.
[01:10:42.180 --> 01:10:44.940]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[01:10:44.940 --> 01:10:48.620]  who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[01:10:48.620 --> 01:10:52.100]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[01:10:52.100 --> 01:10:56.060]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
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[01:12:09.020 --> 01:12:11.540]  Well, let's take a look at the AI bubble.
[01:12:11.540 --> 01:12:13.860]  And of course, it's kind of interesting.
[01:12:13.860 --> 01:12:15.260]  SoftBank, you know, we were just talking
[01:12:15.260 --> 01:12:17.700]  about Stargate project with Larry Ellison,
[01:12:17.700 --> 01:12:19.380]  and the bank that came in
[01:12:19.380 --> 01:12:22.740]  was this Japanese bank called SoftBank.
[01:12:22.740 --> 01:12:26.140]  They're very much invested in technology issues.
[01:12:26.140 --> 01:12:29.340]  And that was what Trump kicked off
[01:12:29.340 --> 01:12:30.860]  his second administration with.
[01:12:30.860 --> 01:12:35.860]  Well, SoftBank dumped every single share of NVIDIA,
[01:12:35.900 --> 01:12:38.740]  and that had an effect on the entire market,
[01:12:38.740 --> 01:12:40.940]  not just on NVIDIA stock.
[01:12:40.940 --> 01:12:43.540]  And remember, we talked about Michael Burry,
[01:12:43.540 --> 01:12:45.580]  the guy behind the,
[01:12:48.940 --> 01:12:50.980]  who sussed out, Big Short,
[01:12:50.980 --> 01:12:53.700]  who sussed out what was going on in the market,
[01:12:53.740 --> 01:12:56.180]  real estate market fraud and bubble.
[01:12:56.180 --> 01:13:01.180]  And he focused on shorting NVIDIA as well as Palantir.
[01:13:01.460 --> 01:13:04.940]  And so we've had a lot of big players,
[01:13:04.940 --> 01:13:08.020]  and people who are very professional, very savvy,
[01:13:08.020 --> 01:13:09.340]  who are calling bubble.
[01:13:09.340 --> 01:13:13.740]  And so NVIDIA went down by one and a half percent
[01:13:13.740 --> 01:13:17.540]  after SoftBank sold all of their shares.
[01:13:17.540 --> 01:13:21.220]  And then of course, Palantir is also going down.
[01:13:21.220 --> 01:13:23.660]  Palantir was really the biggest bet
[01:13:24.620 --> 01:13:25.980]  that Michael Burry of the Big Short put on.
[01:13:25.980 --> 01:13:27.900]  It was actually when he did the Big Short
[01:13:27.900 --> 01:13:29.100]  of over a billion dollars,
[01:13:29.100 --> 01:13:33.460]  which is like 80% of his company or his fund or whatever.
[01:13:34.540 --> 01:13:38.260]  So 84% of that short was Palantir,
[01:13:38.260 --> 01:13:43.260]  and 14% or 16% was the NVIDIA.
[01:13:44.060 --> 01:13:47.700]  And somebody put this up, Inverse Kramer.
[01:13:47.700 --> 01:13:50.620]  So look at Kramer as being a contra indicator
[01:13:50.620 --> 01:13:52.220]  of what they should invest in.
[01:13:52.220 --> 01:13:56.140]  They said, Jim Kramer remains undefeated.
[01:13:56.140 --> 01:13:59.140]  And so what they have there is a tweet that he put out
[01:13:59.140 --> 01:14:01.460]  as recently as the 29th of October.
[01:14:01.460 --> 01:14:02.620]  And he was saying,
[01:14:02.620 --> 01:14:04.740]  I'm taking my price target for Palantir
[01:14:04.740 --> 01:14:08.180]  from 200 to 250 exclamation mark.
[01:14:08.180 --> 01:14:10.740]  Well, it went from 200 when he said that,
[01:14:10.740 --> 01:14:15.740]  down to now about maybe 165 or 170.
[01:14:15.860 --> 01:14:18.060]  As I said, he remains undefeated
[01:14:18.060 --> 01:14:20.500]  as always being the counter indicator
[01:14:20.500 --> 01:14:22.260]  of where things should go.
[01:14:22.260 --> 01:14:25.540]  And you know, when I look at all of this hype
[01:14:25.540 --> 01:14:29.860]  about AI robots that we got from Elon Musk last week,
[01:14:29.860 --> 01:14:32.380]  and so many others, the AI hype,
[01:14:32.380 --> 01:14:34.220]  the robotic hype and everything,
[01:14:34.220 --> 01:14:36.820]  this is Russia and their robot
[01:14:36.820 --> 01:14:37.940]  that they wanted to demonstrate.
[01:14:37.940 --> 01:14:40.900]  Again, we always hear about Russian bots, right?
[01:14:40.900 --> 01:14:43.140]  They're talking about AI
[01:14:43.140 --> 01:14:46.380]  that is putting out narratives on social media.
[01:14:46.380 --> 01:14:48.860]  But here's a literal Russian bot
[01:14:48.860 --> 01:14:51.500]  and people's comments about this.
[01:14:51.500 --> 01:14:53.780]  It looks like they used a drunk
[01:14:53.780 --> 01:14:56.060]  to teach its robot how to walk.
[01:14:57.300 --> 01:14:58.740]  See how it's walking there?
[01:14:58.740 --> 01:14:59.900]  And watch what happens.
[01:14:59.900 --> 01:15:01.460]  Takes another couple of steps.
[01:15:01.460 --> 01:15:04.180]  And just like a drunk, it falls down on the side.
[01:15:04.180 --> 01:15:05.380]  Watch this, it's coming.
[01:15:06.300 --> 01:15:08.380]  It's staggering, there it goes down.
[01:15:08.380 --> 01:15:11.500]  So let's hope that that is a metaphor
[01:15:11.500 --> 01:15:13.460]  for robotics and for AI.
[01:15:13.460 --> 01:15:15.260]  Again, as I said last week,
[01:15:15.260 --> 01:15:16.740]  a lot of people are looking at this and they said,
[01:15:16.740 --> 01:15:19.060]  well, how does this end?
[01:15:19.060 --> 01:15:23.220]  Well, there's only two or three combinations of this
[01:15:23.220 --> 01:15:28.220]  that could go either the AI hype and the bubble bursts
[01:15:28.220 --> 01:15:31.260]  and takes down the economy big time
[01:15:31.260 --> 01:15:33.860]  or global economy big time,
[01:15:33.860 --> 01:15:36.940]  or it is successful and it takes everybody's jobs.
[01:15:36.940 --> 01:15:39.260]  And I said, well, there's a third alternative
[01:15:39.260 --> 01:15:43.460]  that it is sustained by the governments
[01:15:43.460 --> 01:15:45.700]  who use it to control us.
[01:15:45.700 --> 01:15:48.500]  And I think that is true of both AI and robotics.
[01:15:48.500 --> 01:15:53.380]  I think that the best use case for all this stuff
[01:15:53.380 --> 01:15:55.820]  is tyranny and totalitarianism.
[01:15:55.820 --> 01:15:59.380]  Well, SoftBank dumped their entire Nvidia stake,
[01:15:59.380 --> 01:16:03.140]  but they're not getting out of AI completely.
[01:16:03.140 --> 01:16:07.900]  So it's not a complete pushback against AI.
[01:16:07.900 --> 01:16:10.700]  They just decided that they would move from Nvidia
[01:16:10.700 --> 01:16:13.660]  to some other platforms.
[01:16:13.700 --> 01:16:15.900]  They're still involved in AI.
[01:16:15.900 --> 01:16:20.900]  And they had just under $6 billion stake in Nvidia.
[01:16:21.300 --> 01:16:25.060]  And the guy who is the head of SoftBank,
[01:16:25.060 --> 01:16:26.620]  his name is Gotoo.
[01:16:26.620 --> 01:16:28.100]  I guess he's the Gotoo guy.
[01:16:29.300 --> 01:16:31.420]  If you want some tech capital.
[01:16:31.420 --> 01:16:34.540]  I can't say if we're in an AI bubble or not, said Gotoo.
[01:16:35.540 --> 01:16:37.780]  Adding that the sale was for capital
[01:16:37.780 --> 01:16:39.820]  and can be utilized for our financing.
[01:16:39.820 --> 01:16:41.860]  So he's not gonna say that we're in an AI bubble
[01:16:41.860 --> 01:16:45.140]  because he's got some other irons in the fire
[01:16:45.140 --> 01:16:46.620]  and he doesn't wanna tank this thing.
[01:16:46.620 --> 01:16:50.140]  I can neither confirm nor deny that we are in an AI bubble.
[01:16:51.180 --> 01:16:53.500]  Yeah, but a lot of people have been confirming that.
[01:16:53.500 --> 01:16:55.180]  As a matter of fact, Zero Hedge pointed out and said,
[01:16:55.180 --> 01:16:57.820]  well, we've had four recent articles
[01:16:57.820 --> 01:16:58.700]  that are really must read.
[01:16:58.700 --> 01:17:00.060]  Here's the headlines.
[01:17:00.060 --> 01:17:04.340]  The AI bubble watch out metric has just snapped.
[01:17:05.260 --> 01:17:10.260]  AI is now a debt bubble too, quietly surpassing all banks
[01:17:10.300 --> 01:17:13.620]  to become the largest sector in the market.
[01:17:13.620 --> 01:17:17.940]  And Sam Altman denying OpenAI needs a government bailout.
[01:17:17.940 --> 01:17:21.260]  He just wants massive government subsidies.
[01:17:21.260 --> 01:17:23.420]  So yeah, we do the subsidy
[01:17:23.420 --> 01:17:25.500]  so we don't have to do the bailout.
[01:17:25.500 --> 01:17:28.420]  So it had an effect of course on Nvidia,
[01:17:28.420 --> 01:17:31.980]  but also on a lot of different stocks of futures,
[01:17:31.980 --> 01:17:35.300]  slid down as AI jitters return.
[01:17:35.300 --> 01:17:37.980]  And yet, no matter how many people come out,
[01:17:38.020 --> 01:17:40.820]  no matter how many people who are large and connected
[01:17:40.820 --> 01:17:42.540]  come out against this,
[01:17:42.540 --> 01:17:46.340]  you still have the bubble continues to inflate.
[01:17:46.340 --> 01:17:49.420]  And another company was involved in that as well, CoreWeave.
[01:17:49.420 --> 01:17:54.060]  They rent out access to the AI chips
[01:17:54.060 --> 01:17:57.500]  and they had some interesting issues there
[01:17:57.500 --> 01:17:59.220]  and setbacks as well.
[01:17:59.220 --> 01:18:04.220]  But this article from Free Thought Project is very timely.
[01:18:04.660 --> 01:18:07.700]  They said it is time to pay attention.
[01:18:08.420 --> 01:18:11.260]  Europe has just eviscerated monetary privacy
[01:18:11.260 --> 01:18:14.020]  and it's gonna be coming here to the United States next.
[01:18:14.020 --> 01:18:16.060]  They're basically starting down the path
[01:18:16.060 --> 01:18:20.260]  of banning all cash, state-run digital money.
[01:18:20.260 --> 01:18:21.420]  That's a law that has passed
[01:18:21.420 --> 01:18:24.140]  and it goes live in only 400 days.
[01:18:24.140 --> 01:18:27.020]  And so they're going to make it criminal to pay cash
[01:18:27.020 --> 01:18:29.140]  for anything over 10,000 euros.
[01:18:29.140 --> 01:18:32.020]  But of course that level is gonna continue to come down.
[01:18:32.020 --> 01:18:35.820]  That's why you need to get into physical gold and silver.
[01:18:35.820 --> 01:18:37.180]  You gotta get out of this system
[01:18:37.220 --> 01:18:38.060]  and that's what they're talking about.
[01:18:38.060 --> 01:18:39.300]  They have a lot of different alternatives
[01:18:39.300 --> 01:18:41.900]  in this Free Thought Project article.
[01:18:41.900 --> 01:18:43.540]  One thing they don't mention, strangely enough,
[01:18:43.540 --> 01:18:45.180]  is physical gold and silver.
[01:18:45.180 --> 01:18:48.020]  I think that is the simplest, easiest,
[01:18:48.020 --> 01:18:53.020]  most direct thing to essentially short the totalitarianism.
[01:18:53.300 --> 01:18:54.300]  That's what you need to be doing.
[01:18:54.300 --> 01:18:56.740]  Don't short the market, short the totalitarianism.
[01:18:56.740 --> 01:18:57.900]  Go to David Nightdyde Gold
[01:18:57.900 --> 01:19:00.860]  that'll take you to Tony Arderman's Wise Wolf Gold.
[01:19:00.860 --> 01:19:03.140]  Have a good day, thank you for joining us.
[01:19:03.140 --> 01:19:04.340]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson
[01:19:04.580 --> 01:19:07.580]  I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute
[01:19:07.580 --> 01:19:10.900]  and I want you to hear about love, generosity,
[01:19:10.900 --> 01:19:11.820]  and compassion.
[01:19:11.820 --> 01:19:15.020]  We say those words all the time and they sound good.
[01:19:15.020 --> 01:19:16.100]  They feel good.
[01:19:16.100 --> 01:19:17.540]  But here's the truth.
[01:19:17.540 --> 01:19:21.740]  Those words don't mean anything unless they turn into action.
[01:19:21.740 --> 01:19:25.300]  And right now, not later today, not tomorrow,
[01:19:25.300 --> 01:19:29.660]  there's a child in the world who doesn't know if they'll eat,
[01:19:29.660 --> 01:19:31.780]  if they'll have a chance to learn,
[01:19:31.780 --> 01:19:34.060]  or if there's any hope at all.
[01:19:34.220 --> 01:19:38.300]  And while we're all busy, life keeps moving forward,
[01:19:38.300 --> 01:19:40.020]  but that child is waiting.
[01:19:40.020 --> 01:19:42.060]  This is where you come in.
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[01:20:41.900 --> 01:20:44.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:11.900 --> 01:21:14.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:41.900 --> 01:21:44.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:44.900 --> 01:21:47.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:47.900 --> 01:21:50.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:50.900 --> 01:21:53.900]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:21:55.300 --> 01:21:58.540]  Keith Riegert says that there's only two possibilities
[01:21:58.540 --> 01:21:59.900]  for AI.
[01:21:59.900 --> 01:22:02.220]  It's either gonna collapse the economy,
[01:22:02.220 --> 01:22:03.940]  if it doesn't work out,
[01:22:03.940 --> 01:22:05.220]  or if it does work out,
[01:22:05.220 --> 01:22:08.020]  the use case is to take everybody's job
[01:22:08.020 --> 01:22:10.780]  and make everybody's jobs obsolete.
[01:22:10.780 --> 01:22:12.540]  It's not a good prospect
[01:22:12.540 --> 01:22:14.780]  if those are the two choices that are there.
[01:22:14.780 --> 01:22:16.700]  I think, though, that there is a third choice,
[01:22:16.700 --> 01:22:18.980]  and that is that the government,
[01:22:18.980 --> 01:22:21.300]  maybe it won't take everybody's jobs,
[01:22:21.300 --> 01:22:23.060]  and maybe it won't collapse the economy
[01:22:23.060 --> 01:22:26.140]  because maybe the AI bubble won't burst,
[01:22:26.140 --> 01:22:30.860]  but we will live under a dystopian control surveillance grid
[01:22:30.860 --> 01:22:32.900]  because that's what the government will use it for.
[01:22:32.900 --> 01:22:34.420]  So there's a third alternative.
[01:22:34.420 --> 01:22:37.580]  AI's killer use case, folks,
[01:22:37.620 --> 01:22:40.740]  is surveillance and control of us.
[01:22:40.740 --> 01:22:43.300]  And that's why the government is going to be so desperate
[01:22:43.300 --> 01:22:45.180]  to fund it, whatever it takes.
[01:22:45.180 --> 01:22:47.460]  If you wanna know why gold and silver and Bitcoin
[01:22:47.460 --> 01:22:52.420]  are soaring, it's the debasement of the dollar
[01:22:52.420 --> 01:22:56.100]  in order to fund the AI arms race, they said.
[01:22:56.100 --> 01:23:00.460]  And of course, energy is the reality factor in all of this.
[01:23:00.460 --> 01:23:02.140]  That's where it gets real.
[01:23:02.140 --> 01:23:04.340]  And that's one of the reasons why Bill Gates and others
[01:23:04.380 --> 01:23:08.060]  are moving back away from the climate MacGuffin.
[01:23:08.060 --> 01:23:11.380]  The pandemic MacGuffin gives them all the justification
[01:23:11.380 --> 01:23:13.300]  that they need, and they need to have
[01:23:13.300 --> 01:23:16.020]  this surveillance control and ID,
[01:23:17.060 --> 01:23:18.380]  this control grid that is there.
[01:23:18.380 --> 01:23:19.220]  They need to have that,
[01:23:19.220 --> 01:23:21.260]  and they need to have artificial intelligence to run that.
[01:23:21.260 --> 01:23:22.820]  So they're pulling back from that
[01:23:22.820 --> 01:23:25.300]  because in order to have the AI control structure,
[01:23:25.300 --> 01:23:27.940]  they've got to have massive amounts of energy.
[01:23:34.900 --> 01:23:39.140]  All right, and joining us now is Dr. Richard Restak, MD,
[01:23:39.140 --> 01:23:41.700]  and he is a neuroscientist as well,
[01:23:41.700 --> 01:23:45.140]  and he has written a lot of books on the brain.
[01:23:45.140 --> 01:23:49.660]  And now this is one, kind of the nexus of our brain
[01:23:49.660 --> 01:23:51.660]  and artificial intelligence.
[01:23:51.660 --> 01:23:53.860]  So I wanted to get him on because we, as you know,
[01:23:53.860 --> 01:23:57.740]  we talk about AI and its impact on society quite a bit.
[01:23:57.740 --> 01:23:59.580]  Thank you for joining us, Dr. Restak.
[01:24:00.780 --> 01:24:02.660]  Well, I'm happy to be here, thank you, David.
[01:24:02.660 --> 01:24:05.900]  You've written so many books, and a bestselling author,
[01:24:05.900 --> 01:24:07.900]  and of course, people can find this on Amazon.
[01:24:07.900 --> 01:24:09.900]  You've written so many books.
[01:24:09.900 --> 01:24:11.260]  What is different about the brain?
[01:24:11.260 --> 01:24:13.300]  What is different about this one?
[01:24:13.300 --> 01:24:15.660]  And why did you write this book?
[01:24:15.660 --> 01:24:20.140]  I wrote this book to announce and to discuss
[01:24:20.140 --> 01:24:24.380]  the dangers that are lurking, so to speak,
[01:24:24.380 --> 01:24:28.420]  in the 21st century, and are unique to the 21st century,
[01:24:28.420 --> 01:24:32.100]  but are having an effect on the brain and the negative one,
[01:24:32.140 --> 01:24:37.140]  so that we really are in peril by eight different factors,
[01:24:37.140 --> 01:24:39.220]  one of which is the global warming.
[01:24:39.220 --> 01:24:44.220]  We have new diseases that are present in the 21st century
[01:24:44.620 --> 01:24:49.420]  that are increasing, starting with COVID moving forward.
[01:24:49.420 --> 01:24:54.380]  We have problems, of course, with the global warming,
[01:24:54.380 --> 01:24:56.100]  which we'll talk about in more detail.
[01:24:56.100 --> 01:24:58.380]  And then the internet, the effect of the internet,
[01:24:58.380 --> 01:25:02.700]  the effect of AI, memory, the alteration,
[01:25:02.700 --> 01:25:06.540]  the attempt to alter memory, almost to alter our memories
[01:25:06.540 --> 01:25:07.900]  of what the past was like.
[01:25:07.900 --> 01:25:12.220]  This is an ongoing enterprise by various governments
[01:25:12.220 --> 01:25:14.700]  in the world, including our own.
[01:25:14.700 --> 01:25:17.980]  We also have surveillance, the seventh,
[01:25:17.980 --> 01:25:19.940]  the surveillance becoming increasingly
[01:25:19.940 --> 01:25:21.900]  a surveillance society.
[01:25:21.900 --> 01:25:26.300]  It's almost impossible to not be revealing things
[01:25:26.300 --> 01:25:29.580]  about yourself because there's surveillance cameras
[01:25:29.580 --> 01:25:30.580]  everywhere.
[01:25:30.580 --> 01:25:32.300]  I can give you several examples of that
[01:25:32.300 --> 01:25:33.900]  just in my own personal life.
[01:25:33.900 --> 01:25:37.420]  And then finally, the eighth one is anxiety.
[01:25:37.420 --> 01:25:39.420]  All of these things are creating
[01:25:39.420 --> 01:25:42.700]  what I call an existential anxiety.
[01:25:42.700 --> 01:25:45.460]  People are being given information,
[01:25:45.460 --> 01:25:49.340]  but it's being molded according to the thoughts
[01:25:49.340 --> 01:25:52.300]  and the inclinations of people in power.
[01:25:52.300 --> 01:25:54.100]  For instance, let's take today's,
[01:25:54.100 --> 01:25:58.660]  right out of today's New York Times on page A7,
[01:25:58.660 --> 01:26:00.540]  there's an article called,
[01:26:00.540 --> 01:26:04.260]  the air in New Delhi is life-threatening.
[01:26:04.260 --> 01:26:09.100]  And it tells the tale of the New York Times reporters
[01:26:09.100 --> 01:26:11.820]  who have spread themselves throughout New Delhi
[01:26:11.820 --> 01:26:14.340]  from 6 a.m. until late in the evening
[01:26:14.340 --> 01:26:17.340]  of a certain day recently,
[01:26:17.340 --> 01:26:21.540]  and they measured the particulate matter in the air,
[01:26:21.540 --> 01:26:25.020]  and it was anywhere from 10 times to 30 times
[01:26:25.020 --> 01:26:30.020]  as great as would be considered minimally normal.
[01:26:30.580 --> 01:26:33.700]  Now, on top of that, you have the statement
[01:26:33.700 --> 01:26:36.740]  that they state that the government
[01:26:36.740 --> 01:26:41.420]  is actually trying to hide this kind of insight
[01:26:41.420 --> 01:26:46.220]  to the populace by spraying water and other things like that.
[01:26:46.220 --> 01:26:50.660]  It says that they're doing this around the measuring stations.
[01:26:50.660 --> 01:26:54.780]  They're also losing data from measuring stations
[01:26:54.780 --> 01:26:57.380]  during the worst amounts of pollution.
[01:26:57.380 --> 01:27:01.660]  So there you have the molding of the facts,
[01:27:01.660 --> 01:27:05.580]  either denying them altogether or trying to improve them
[01:27:05.580 --> 01:27:07.820]  so people say, oh, well, they measured it down
[01:27:07.820 --> 01:27:09.660]  at such and such a measuring station,
[01:27:09.660 --> 01:27:11.620]  and it was really not all that high.
[01:27:11.620 --> 01:27:13.780]  Well, of course, they were spreading water
[01:27:13.780 --> 01:27:16.540]  and other things to try to reduce this.
[01:27:16.540 --> 01:27:20.620]  So we've got a capitalist society here in the United States,
[01:27:20.660 --> 01:27:25.260]  which has a vested interest in pushing forward
[01:27:25.260 --> 01:27:28.220]  certain scientific points of view.
[01:27:28.220 --> 01:27:31.380]  So science is being put sort of in the back seat,
[01:27:31.380 --> 01:27:33.820]  and there's politicians and other people,
[01:27:33.820 --> 01:27:35.980]  all of whom share one thing,
[01:27:35.980 --> 01:27:40.020]  capitalistic enterprises in which they're part of
[01:27:40.020 --> 01:27:42.140]  or which they are advancing.
[01:27:43.660 --> 01:27:45.340]  And a kind of crony capitalism
[01:27:45.340 --> 01:27:49.140]  where they can get protection and subsidies as well.
[01:27:49.180 --> 01:27:52.340]  And the control is being taken away from us
[01:27:52.340 --> 01:27:55.180]  because, as I was just reporting earlier today,
[01:27:55.180 --> 01:27:56.820]  they're working very hard to make sure
[01:27:56.820 --> 01:27:58.740]  that state and local governments
[01:27:58.740 --> 01:28:02.620]  can't enact any control on artificial intelligence.
[01:28:02.620 --> 01:28:04.620]  And that came up in the context
[01:28:04.620 --> 01:28:08.460]  of talking about how the manufacturers of tasers,
[01:28:08.460 --> 01:28:11.420]  also big manufacturers of police body cams,
[01:28:11.420 --> 01:28:14.540]  how they want to wed that to artificial intelligence.
[01:28:14.540 --> 01:28:17.220]  And the question is, what could possibly go wrong with that
[01:28:17.260 --> 01:28:19.460]  if they identify you, they misidentify you
[01:28:19.460 --> 01:28:21.340]  as a dangerous criminal,
[01:28:21.340 --> 01:28:24.340]  and warn the police about how dangerous you are?
[01:28:24.340 --> 01:28:25.820]  They could get people killed.
[01:28:26.860 --> 01:28:30.180]  Well, not only that, but all of these efforts
[01:28:30.180 --> 01:28:35.020]  set up a sense of anxiety and fear.
[01:28:35.020 --> 01:28:38.460]  Let me just tell you what happened to me one morning.
[01:28:38.460 --> 01:28:41.140]  Called a cab to go to a medical appointment,
[01:28:41.140 --> 01:28:43.420]  and we started going down the road.
[01:28:43.420 --> 01:28:44.660]  I said to the driver,
[01:28:44.660 --> 01:28:46.580]  you're not going the most efficient
[01:28:46.620 --> 01:28:48.220]  or the quickest way.
[01:28:48.220 --> 01:28:49.460]  He said, I know that.
[01:28:49.460 --> 01:28:51.460]  He said, but I don't want to go that way
[01:28:51.460 --> 01:28:53.340]  because there's speed cameras.
[01:28:53.340 --> 01:28:55.860]  I said, well, you're driving very sensibly
[01:28:55.860 --> 01:28:58.340]  and you're not speeding, and I'm in no hurry,
[01:28:58.340 --> 01:29:00.180]  so what's the problem?
[01:29:00.180 --> 01:29:02.060]  He said, well, they take pictures of everybody
[01:29:02.060 --> 01:29:04.100]  that goes by those cameras
[01:29:04.100 --> 01:29:05.980]  because they want to see who's in those photos,
[01:29:05.980 --> 01:29:07.940]  in those cars.
[01:29:07.940 --> 01:29:10.260]  So I asked him to give me a reference for that,
[01:29:10.260 --> 01:29:14.300]  and he didn't say anything else for the rest of the trip.
[01:29:14.300 --> 01:29:16.140]  So when I got down to the medical building,
[01:29:16.140 --> 01:29:17.940]  I got in the elevator and said,
[01:29:17.940 --> 01:29:20.860]  in this facility, there is surveillance,
[01:29:20.860 --> 01:29:23.700]  both obvious and hidden.
[01:29:24.700 --> 01:29:26.180]  That's the thing.
[01:29:26.180 --> 01:29:27.020]  And the third-
[01:29:27.020 --> 01:29:28.860]  Santa Claus was watching you now.
[01:29:28.860 --> 01:29:31.380]  This is all one morning,
[01:29:31.380 --> 01:29:34.100]  and then when I got up to sign in,
[01:29:34.100 --> 01:29:37.420]  I signed the board with an electronic pen
[01:29:37.420 --> 01:29:39.740]  and I didn't see no signature.
[01:29:39.740 --> 01:29:41.220]  I said, well, it didn't take.
[01:29:41.220 --> 01:29:42.380]  She said, oh, it took,
[01:29:42.380 --> 01:29:44.500]  but we don't allow it to go on the screen
[01:29:44.500 --> 01:29:45.620]  so it could be seen.
[01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:46.820]  I said, why is that?
[01:29:46.820 --> 01:29:49.140]  She said, well, somebody behind you might see the thing
[01:29:49.140 --> 01:29:53.100]  and then remember it and use your signature
[01:29:53.100 --> 01:29:55.820]  to forward something somewhere.
[01:29:55.820 --> 01:29:56.980]  Well, first of all, there was a sign
[01:29:56.980 --> 01:29:59.700]  that said stand 10 feet back,
[01:29:59.700 --> 01:30:02.100]  and secondly, there's nobody else behind me.
[01:30:02.100 --> 01:30:05.340]  So there's three examples just drawn at random
[01:30:05.340 --> 01:30:08.820]  that were becoming an increasingly surveilled society,
[01:30:08.820 --> 01:30:12.780]  which is creating a sense of paranoia and a sense of fear.
[01:30:12.820 --> 01:30:16.020]  So the brain has to adjust to these type of things, Dave,
[01:30:16.020 --> 01:30:17.700]  and it's very hard to do.
[01:30:18.620 --> 01:30:20.620]  And I think that is calculated.
[01:30:21.700 --> 01:30:24.140]  They want to do this even to the extent,
[01:30:24.140 --> 01:30:25.460]  when you talk about these cameras
[01:30:25.460 --> 01:30:26.740]  taking everybody's picture,
[01:30:26.740 --> 01:30:28.380]  the flock network that is out there,
[01:30:28.380 --> 01:30:30.140]  this corporation that is saying,
[01:30:30.140 --> 01:30:31.180]  well, we can do whatever we want
[01:30:31.180 --> 01:30:33.500]  because it's in public space
[01:30:33.500 --> 01:30:36.580]  and we're not government
[01:30:36.580 --> 01:30:38.020]  so we can collect this information,
[01:30:38.020 --> 01:30:39.620]  and yet they collect it
[01:30:39.620 --> 01:30:41.420]  in order to sell it to the government.
[01:30:41.420 --> 01:30:43.540]  So it's just one level indirect,
[01:30:43.540 --> 01:30:46.660]  but they not only grab your license plate,
[01:30:46.660 --> 01:30:50.180]  but they also do a complete profile of your car
[01:30:50.180 --> 01:30:51.700]  and all of its idiosyncrasies.
[01:30:51.700 --> 01:30:53.020]  Does it have a dent here?
[01:30:53.020 --> 01:30:54.020]  Does it have a scrape there?
[01:30:54.020 --> 01:30:55.460]  What about a bumper sticker?
[01:30:55.460 --> 01:30:57.700]  So it creates a model of your car.
[01:30:57.700 --> 01:31:00.740]  And so they almost have biometric identification
[01:31:00.740 --> 01:31:03.540]  of your cars as well as of you.
[01:31:03.540 --> 01:31:05.540]  And this is now made possible
[01:31:05.540 --> 01:31:08.220]  because of the advances of AI.
[01:31:08.220 --> 01:31:09.900]  But this has been something
[01:31:09.900 --> 01:31:12.260]  that has been concerning me.
[01:31:12.260 --> 01:31:15.260]  I look at things kind of from a libertarian perspective,
[01:31:15.260 --> 01:31:17.540]  and this has been concerning me for a long time.
[01:31:17.540 --> 01:31:21.340]  The idea that government is using technology
[01:31:21.340 --> 01:31:23.500]  many different ways, internet, social media,
[01:31:23.500 --> 01:31:25.540]  things like that to monitor
[01:31:25.540 --> 01:31:28.060]  and to manipulate us all the time.
[01:31:28.060 --> 01:31:30.900]  And to me, artificial intelligence
[01:31:30.900 --> 01:31:32.860]  just puts this on steroids.
[01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:36.700]  And so I think there is something to be anxious about
[01:31:36.700 --> 01:31:38.980]  if we're going to look at this.
[01:31:38.980 --> 01:31:39.980]  We should be concerned about it.
[01:31:39.980 --> 01:31:42.580]  Maybe not anxious, but we should be concerned
[01:31:42.580 --> 01:31:44.300]  about the goals of people
[01:31:44.300 --> 01:31:47.020]  who are putting this kind of stuff together.
[01:31:47.020 --> 01:31:48.260]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson,
[01:31:48.260 --> 01:31:50.340]  and I want you to pause what you're doing
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[01:33:24.540 --> 01:33:25.740]  Oh, yeah.
[01:33:25.740 --> 01:33:26.580]  Well, there's that,
[01:33:26.580 --> 01:33:29.780]  and then if you can manage to change the present,
[01:33:29.780 --> 01:33:32.060]  you can manipulate the future.
[01:33:32.900 --> 01:33:35.620]  The real way to get it is to get control of past,
[01:33:35.620 --> 01:33:37.860]  as Orwell pointed out.
[01:33:37.860 --> 01:33:40.180]  You control the past, you know,
[01:33:40.180 --> 01:33:43.380]  you can control the present by the implication,
[01:33:43.380 --> 01:33:44.540]  control the future,
[01:33:44.540 --> 01:33:48.060]  and we're seeing alterations of materials,
[01:33:48.060 --> 01:33:53.060]  even government documents, government films, documentaries,
[01:33:53.060 --> 01:33:55.180]  things like that are being altered
[01:33:55.180 --> 01:33:58.740]  in ways that are not visible,
[01:33:58.740 --> 01:34:00.300]  I should say detectable,
[01:34:00.460 --> 01:34:02.540]  not detectable to the ordinary person.
[01:34:02.540 --> 01:34:05.980]  So they get ideas about what the past was like,
[01:34:05.980 --> 01:34:07.540]  which are wrong,
[01:34:07.540 --> 01:34:10.460]  and don't show you,
[01:34:10.460 --> 01:34:11.620]  as I mentioned in the book,
[01:34:11.620 --> 01:34:15.220]  if you were at a dance in 1850
[01:34:15.220 --> 01:34:18.300]  before the Civil War,
[01:34:18.300 --> 01:34:20.340]  and it's a film we're watching,
[01:34:20.340 --> 01:34:23.820]  let's just say we're watching a film about 1850,
[01:34:23.820 --> 01:34:25.940]  and we're seeing people ballroom dancing, all that,
[01:34:25.940 --> 01:34:27.860]  and then one of them pulls to the side
[01:34:27.860 --> 01:34:29.580]  and pulls out a cell phone,
[01:34:30.260 --> 01:34:31.380]  and you say, wait a minute,
[01:34:31.380 --> 01:34:33.100]  we didn't have cell phones then.
[01:34:33.100 --> 01:34:33.940]  Well, you know,
[01:34:33.940 --> 01:34:37.980]  there were a lot of things that were going on now
[01:34:37.980 --> 01:34:40.420]  that were not going on in the past,
[01:34:40.420 --> 01:34:42.020]  and it's not to our advantage
[01:34:42.020 --> 01:34:45.500]  to try to pretend that they were, they weren't.
[01:34:45.500 --> 01:34:48.620]  We have to understand the past, understand the future,
[01:34:48.620 --> 01:34:53.620]  and we're not only creating situations that are false,
[01:34:54.380 --> 01:34:58.140]  but we're also, like in 1984,
[01:34:58.140 --> 01:35:02.780]  Orwell created a character called Commander Ogilvy.
[01:35:02.780 --> 01:35:04.300]  He was a war hero.
[01:35:04.300 --> 01:35:06.820]  He got all sorts of medals,
[01:35:06.820 --> 01:35:08.900]  and it was all the proletarians
[01:35:08.900 --> 01:35:11.820]  that were all told to honor him and so forth.
[01:35:11.820 --> 01:35:13.140]  Well, he never existed.
[01:35:14.140 --> 01:35:16.900]  He actually was made up entirely,
[01:35:16.900 --> 01:35:17.900]  and that's one of the things
[01:35:17.900 --> 01:35:21.420]  that the narrator is doing in the job at work,
[01:35:21.420 --> 01:35:24.020]  is filling in photographs
[01:35:24.020 --> 01:35:27.940]  of secreting Ogilvy into historical events
[01:35:28.780 --> 01:35:30.980]  that happened, wartime scenarios, et cetera.
[01:35:30.980 --> 01:35:34.500]  And while reading it, we'll say, wow, this is some man.
[01:35:34.500 --> 01:35:36.780]  Well, he was a complete fabrication.
[01:35:36.780 --> 01:35:38.820]  We're just about at that point,
[01:35:38.820 --> 01:35:42.540]  with Sora out, the AI out.
[01:35:42.540 --> 01:35:45.540]  Well, it could take you and had you, you know,
[01:35:45.540 --> 01:35:47.620]  to say, let's get David Knight
[01:35:47.620 --> 01:35:50.660]  and have him leading some sort of a parade or whatever,
[01:35:50.660 --> 01:35:52.260]  and you know, suddenly people say,
[01:35:52.260 --> 01:35:54.860]  well, gosh, I saw him with my own eyes.
[01:35:54.900 --> 01:35:59.380]  So what's happening is that the actual seeing is believing
[01:35:59.380 --> 01:36:00.740]  is being turned on its head.
[01:36:00.740 --> 01:36:02.900]  So that's no longer true.
[01:36:02.900 --> 01:36:04.940]  You're talking about a completely fabricated character
[01:36:04.940 --> 01:36:06.700]  out of Orwell.
[01:36:06.700 --> 01:36:08.780]  It's just recently they had Tilly Norwood,
[01:36:08.780 --> 01:36:11.420]  who is a completely fabricated AI personality.
[01:36:11.420 --> 01:36:13.100]  And the person who came up with it
[01:36:13.100 --> 01:36:15.780]  has got agents representing her.
[01:36:15.780 --> 01:36:18.340]  They got her out there as an actress.
[01:36:18.340 --> 01:36:19.180]  Yeah.
[01:36:19.180 --> 01:36:21.820]  I mean, it's like, so I've created an AI actress,
[01:36:21.820 --> 01:36:24.540]  which will do a lot of different roles for you.
[01:36:25.220 --> 01:36:27.260]  She probably does her own stunts as well, I imagine.
[01:36:27.260 --> 01:36:29.580]  People in SAG, the Screen Actors Guild,
[01:36:29.580 --> 01:36:31.260]  and they're furious about this.
[01:36:31.260 --> 01:36:35.340]  And I said, any agent that represents this AI character
[01:36:35.340 --> 01:36:37.220]  is not gonna do any business with us.
[01:36:37.220 --> 01:36:39.260]  But we're already at that point.
[01:36:39.260 --> 01:36:40.700]  It truly is interesting.
[01:36:42.100 --> 01:36:43.700]  And one of the ways of neutralizing it
[01:36:43.700 --> 01:36:46.180]  is to create the situation that exists right now
[01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:47.420]  between you and me.
[01:36:47.420 --> 01:36:49.100]  You're laughing and I'm laughing
[01:36:49.100 --> 01:36:51.540]  because it seems funny, and it is funny,
[01:36:51.540 --> 01:36:54.700]  but it's a very serious purpose behind all this.
[01:36:54.700 --> 01:36:59.460]  It's all about trying to alter people's perceptions
[01:36:59.460 --> 01:37:02.220]  so that they begin to doubt the veredity
[01:37:02.220 --> 01:37:03.860]  of what they're seeing.
[01:37:03.860 --> 01:37:04.700]  That's right.
[01:37:04.700 --> 01:37:06.660]  Yes, and I've talked for the longest time
[01:37:06.660 --> 01:37:09.220]  about how the whole idea for the internet
[01:37:09.220 --> 01:37:11.020]  was created by DARPA psychologists.
[01:37:11.020 --> 01:37:13.300]  And I've been concerned that it was all about
[01:37:13.300 --> 01:37:15.500]  psychological manipulation from the get-go
[01:37:15.500 --> 01:37:16.340]  with all of this.
[01:37:16.340 --> 01:37:21.340]  But as a physician and as a neuroscientist,
[01:37:21.740 --> 01:37:23.460]  I'd be interested in your take on
[01:37:23.460 --> 01:37:24.540]  what is currently going on.
[01:37:24.540 --> 01:37:26.900]  Because besides manipulating the past
[01:37:26.900 --> 01:37:28.860]  by changing information about the past
[01:37:28.860 --> 01:37:31.020]  or memory-holing it or writing
[01:37:31.020 --> 01:37:33.500]  a new alternative history of it,
[01:37:33.500 --> 01:37:34.740]  they are also concerned,
[01:37:34.740 --> 01:37:38.220]  and there's been projects that have been put out by DARPA.
[01:37:38.220 --> 01:37:40.180]  And I don't know if they've been successful or not,
[01:37:40.180 --> 01:37:41.860]  but they're putting out requests for people
[01:37:41.860 --> 01:37:45.700]  to come up with things to manipulate people's memories.
[01:37:45.700 --> 01:37:47.860]  So you've got a soldier, they say,
[01:37:47.860 --> 01:37:50.300]  who's got bad PTSD.
[01:37:50.300 --> 01:37:52.020]  Let's get rid of that memory.
[01:37:52.020 --> 01:37:54.460]  Let's give them different memories.
[01:37:54.460 --> 01:37:56.340]  What do you see in terms of someone
[01:37:56.340 --> 01:37:58.700]  who studies the brain and neuroscience?
[01:37:58.700 --> 01:37:59.940]  What do you see about that?
[01:37:59.940 --> 01:38:04.700]  What do you think is the state of the art with that?
[01:38:04.700 --> 01:38:05.940]  Well, my last book was called
[01:38:05.940 --> 01:38:07.140]  The Complete Book of Memory.
[01:38:07.140 --> 01:38:08.180]  It had to do with memory.
[01:38:08.180 --> 01:38:11.020]  I studied memory in great detail.
[01:38:11.020 --> 01:38:13.180]  And of course, you have to do away
[01:38:13.180 --> 01:38:17.140]  with the concept that memory is like a video tape
[01:38:17.140 --> 01:38:19.100]  or something that you just store in your brain
[01:38:19.500 --> 01:38:22.060]  when you want to get it, you just bring it out,
[01:38:22.060 --> 01:38:23.980]  like you bring out a video tape.
[01:38:23.980 --> 01:38:25.060]  It's not like that.
[01:38:25.060 --> 01:38:26.740]  It's a reconstruction.
[01:38:26.740 --> 01:38:30.540]  Each time you think back to a certain event,
[01:38:30.540 --> 01:38:34.420]  you alter that memory so that you have memory one,
[01:38:34.420 --> 01:38:37.700]  memory two, memory three, on and on and on.
[01:38:37.700 --> 01:38:40.140]  That's the nature of memory.
[01:38:40.140 --> 01:38:42.380]  And memory can be manipulated.
[01:38:42.380 --> 01:38:45.100]  It's always, like in the courtroom,
[01:38:45.100 --> 01:38:47.540]  they're always trying to avoid the contamination
[01:38:47.540 --> 01:38:48.820]  of the witness.
[01:38:48.820 --> 01:38:49.980]  An example of that would be,
[01:38:49.980 --> 01:38:52.860]  well, which car went through the red light?
[01:38:53.780 --> 01:38:56.060]  And to ask a witness.
[01:38:56.060 --> 01:38:59.500]  He said, oh, it was a red car went through the red light.
[01:38:59.500 --> 01:39:01.060]  Well, wouldn't it surprise you to know
[01:39:01.060 --> 01:39:02.220]  that it wasn't a red light,
[01:39:02.220 --> 01:39:06.020]  but it was a stop sign, Mr. Witness?
[01:39:06.020 --> 01:39:08.500]  Of course, his credibility is gone
[01:39:08.500 --> 01:39:12.500]  because he took the suggestion that it was a red light,
[01:39:12.500 --> 01:39:15.020]  instead of, and it would be very easy to do
[01:39:15.020 --> 01:39:17.540]  because you don't necessarily have that image
[01:39:17.540 --> 01:39:19.900]  of that intersection in your mind.
[01:39:19.900 --> 01:39:22.860]  So that's why there's protections, even in the courtroom,
[01:39:22.860 --> 01:39:26.140]  against leading the witness, they call it.
[01:39:26.140 --> 01:39:28.020]  In other words, providing information
[01:39:28.020 --> 01:39:31.700]  that's either not true at all or half true.
[01:39:31.700 --> 01:39:36.700]  So we've got that, this didn't start in the 21st century.
[01:39:36.740 --> 01:39:40.100]  That started as long as we've had courtrooms.
[01:39:40.100 --> 01:39:44.100]  This is more an emphasis on altering memory
[01:39:44.300 --> 01:39:46.140]  because the people will get up there
[01:39:46.140 --> 01:39:48.660]  and under cross-examination, they'll do pretty well
[01:39:48.660 --> 01:39:50.540]  because their whole memory has been altered.
[01:39:50.540 --> 01:39:53.420]  They've changed it by various mechanisms,
[01:39:53.420 --> 01:39:57.380]  suggestion, repeating the information, which is false,
[01:39:57.380 --> 01:39:59.820]  of course, which is the misinformation.
[01:39:59.820 --> 01:40:04.300]  There's a cartoon about a week ago by Ramirez
[01:40:04.300 --> 01:40:07.980]  in which he spoke to prize winner.
[01:40:07.980 --> 01:40:11.860]  He has three doctors in an operating room,
[01:40:11.860 --> 01:40:13.420]  in a laboratory.
[01:40:13.420 --> 01:40:15.820]  One of them is looking into a microscope
[01:40:15.820 --> 01:40:17.380]  and he looks up and he says,
[01:40:17.380 --> 01:40:21.620]  this is the most dangerous pathogen we have ever encountered.
[01:40:21.620 --> 01:40:24.700]  And the second doctor says, well, is it bubonic plague?
[01:40:24.700 --> 01:40:26.540]  Is it smallpox?
[01:40:26.540 --> 01:40:28.500]  And then the one that he says, no,
[01:40:28.500 --> 01:40:31.340]  it's misinformation and disinformation.
[01:40:33.340 --> 01:40:34.420]  That's right.
[01:40:34.420 --> 01:40:38.060]  And we gotta be very careful because many times
[01:40:38.060 --> 01:40:40.300]  the people who will tell us about that
[01:40:40.300 --> 01:40:42.860]  are the people who want to be the ones who define
[01:40:42.860 --> 01:40:45.580]  what the information is for us.
[01:40:45.580 --> 01:40:47.020]  And they will ask those leading questions.
[01:40:47.020 --> 01:40:48.860]  You know, when we're talking about leading questions
[01:40:48.860 --> 01:40:50.460]  and manipulating people,
[01:40:50.460 --> 01:40:51.980]  there's been a lot of reports
[01:40:51.980 --> 01:40:54.900]  about artificial intelligence,
[01:40:54.900 --> 01:40:59.900]  kind of people who have particular psychosis or something
[01:41:00.180 --> 01:41:03.140]  and they get involved with the AI
[01:41:03.140 --> 01:41:05.820]  and it starts to confirm the things that they want
[01:41:05.820 --> 01:41:08.460]  because that's what it is set up to do in terms of bias
[01:41:08.460 --> 01:41:12.300]  that wanna be empathetic and sympathetic to people.
[01:41:12.300 --> 01:41:14.740]  And so it starts doing that and leading them
[01:41:14.740 --> 01:41:17.060]  further and further down a particular rabbit hole.
[01:41:17.060 --> 01:41:19.660]  There's been situations of, you know,
[01:41:19.660 --> 01:41:21.780]  people who got into severe mental distress,
[01:41:21.780 --> 01:41:24.100]  some suicides of some young children
[01:41:24.100 --> 01:41:25.580]  and other things like that.
[01:41:25.580 --> 01:41:28.900]  Speak to that aspect of it and the real danger of that.
[01:41:28.900 --> 01:41:33.900]  That is really kind of, I think speaks to the psychological
[01:41:34.100 --> 01:41:36.580]  aspect and potential of artificial intelligence.
[01:41:36.580 --> 01:41:37.940]  And that could be weaponized.
[01:41:37.940 --> 01:41:40.260]  Right now it's just kind of happening
[01:41:40.260 --> 01:41:41.980]  out of their business model, right?
[01:41:42.660 --> 01:41:45.220]  But that could definitely be weaponized against people.
[01:41:45.220 --> 01:41:46.700]  Well, I talk about that in my book
[01:41:46.700 --> 01:41:48.380]  in the chapter on the internet.
[01:41:48.380 --> 01:41:51.460]  There's famous examples of people who have
[01:41:51.460 --> 01:41:56.460]  suicided right on the internet, live feed,
[01:41:57.940 --> 01:41:59.980]  and they've been manipulated to doing that
[01:41:59.980 --> 01:42:03.980]  by other people who've encouraged them,
[01:42:03.980 --> 01:42:05.700]  said this would be a sign of strength,
[01:42:05.700 --> 01:42:10.300]  this would be a sign that you're not afraid to die
[01:42:10.300 --> 01:42:11.660]  if necessary.
[01:42:12.340 --> 01:42:15.660]  And there's cases of it that actually led to the suicide.
[01:42:15.660 --> 01:42:18.740]  One of them is the most grisly I have in my book
[01:42:18.740 --> 01:42:21.980]  about a person who was talked into pouring gasoline
[01:42:21.980 --> 01:42:23.980]  over themselves and setting a match,
[01:42:23.980 --> 01:42:27.460]  all on open feed, internet,
[01:42:27.460 --> 01:42:30.460]  and while this fire is burning, you can hear.
[01:42:30.460 --> 01:42:33.060]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause
[01:42:33.060 --> 01:42:34.900]  what you're doing for just one minute
[01:42:34.900 --> 01:42:37.700]  and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
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[01:42:41.140 --> 01:42:43.620]  and little to no healthcare.
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[01:42:45.620 --> 01:42:47.740]  her parents have no real options,
[01:42:47.740 --> 01:42:49.980]  no doctors in their community,
[01:42:49.980 --> 01:42:53.380]  and no money for real medical care.
[01:42:53.380 --> 01:42:56.100]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[01:42:56.100 --> 01:42:59.420]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
[01:42:59.420 --> 01:43:04.020]  I can't take the pain anymore, I can't keep going.
[01:43:04.020 --> 01:43:06.780]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[01:43:06.780 --> 01:43:10.460]  who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital,
[01:43:10.500 --> 01:43:13.980]  and that was impossible for her family to afford,
[01:43:13.980 --> 01:43:17.940]  and that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[01:43:17.940 --> 01:43:21.180]  Now through Compassion, Alejandra was treated,
[01:43:21.180 --> 01:43:24.220]  and against all odds, she survived.
[01:43:24.220 --> 01:43:28.180]  She lived because someone just like you took action.
[01:43:28.180 --> 01:43:30.460]  Right now, unfortunately, there are children
[01:43:30.460 --> 01:43:33.300]  just like Alejandra who won't survive
[01:43:33.300 --> 01:43:35.860]  unless someone like you steps in.
[01:43:35.860 --> 01:43:39.620]  Compassion International partners with local churches,
[01:43:39.660 --> 01:43:42.660]  providing children with the support that they need,
[01:43:42.660 --> 01:43:46.700]  critical medical care, plus food, education,
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[01:43:54.540 --> 01:43:57.100]  You can visit Compassion.com.
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[01:44:30.300 --> 01:44:33.300]  Everybody in the background's cheering.
[01:44:33.300 --> 01:44:36.020]  We did it, we did it, we got him to do it.
[01:44:36.020 --> 01:44:37.860]  Wow, that's amazing.
[01:44:39.020 --> 01:44:39.860]  That's amazing.
[01:44:39.860 --> 01:44:41.460]  So there's something about the internet
[01:44:41.460 --> 01:44:46.460]  and about, that actually brings out sadistic,
[01:44:47.260 --> 01:44:51.300]  criminal, psychopathic trends, and we don't know why.
[01:44:51.300 --> 01:44:53.580]  Is it the fact that you don't necessarily
[01:44:53.580 --> 01:44:55.420]  can't be identified?
[01:44:55.420 --> 01:44:57.420]  It's something that is gonna be influencing,
[01:44:57.420 --> 01:44:59.780]  it has influenced the internet greatly,
[01:44:59.780 --> 01:45:03.700]  and it will continue to do so until we understand it.
[01:45:04.620 --> 01:45:06.380]  I think that's one of the things that's so dangerous
[01:45:06.380 --> 01:45:08.460]  about the things that we saw with lockdown
[01:45:09.220 --> 01:45:10.060]  and other aspects of it.
[01:45:10.060 --> 01:45:12.060]  There's an atomization here.
[01:45:12.060 --> 01:45:14.620]  And so many different ways the government
[01:45:14.620 --> 01:45:18.540]  and tech companies are trying to make sure
[01:45:18.540 --> 01:45:22.100]  that we're not in person with each other.
[01:45:22.100 --> 01:45:24.660]  Many cases, like for example, in this interview,
[01:45:24.660 --> 01:45:26.220]  we couldn't do this interview if we both had,
[01:45:26.220 --> 01:45:28.740]  if one of, both of us had to travel.
[01:45:28.740 --> 01:45:30.460]  We're able to do this because we can do it
[01:45:30.460 --> 01:45:35.460]  over Zoom or whatever, but just taking ordinary things
[01:45:35.980 --> 01:45:39.300]  that you would normally do in terms of interacting
[01:45:39.300 --> 01:45:41.980]  with people in school or in church
[01:45:41.980 --> 01:45:43.580]  or in your community or whatever,
[01:45:43.580 --> 01:45:45.460]  taking that away and putting a screen
[01:45:45.460 --> 01:45:47.100]  between the two of you, it really does change
[01:45:47.100 --> 01:45:48.780]  the way people interact with each other.
[01:45:48.780 --> 01:45:51.060]  I remember Errol Morris, the film director,
[01:45:51.060 --> 01:45:54.500]  was able to get people to say all kinds of things to him.
[01:45:54.500 --> 01:45:55.940]  He got a murderer to confess.
[01:45:55.940 --> 01:46:00.940]  He got Robert McNamara to confess
[01:46:00.980 --> 01:46:02.780]  about the false flag of the Vietnam War.
[01:46:02.780 --> 01:46:04.580]  He got people to say all kinds of stuff
[01:46:04.620 --> 01:46:06.940]  because there was that distance between him and them.
[01:46:06.940 --> 01:46:09.140]  He could have interviewed them in person,
[01:46:09.140 --> 01:46:11.420]  but what he did was he put an interrotron,
[01:46:11.420 --> 01:46:12.820]  which is what he called it.
[01:46:12.820 --> 01:46:15.980]  It was basically a teleprompter that he had set up
[01:46:15.980 --> 01:46:18.100]  so he could do two-way communication at the time.
[01:46:18.100 --> 01:46:20.420]  And once he had that distance there,
[01:46:20.420 --> 01:46:23.580]  then it completely changed the dynamics
[01:46:23.580 --> 01:46:27.180]  that he would have versus with somebody person to person.
[01:46:27.180 --> 01:46:29.700]  And that's what we're talking about here, isn't it?
[01:46:29.700 --> 01:46:30.820]  Yeah, we're talking about that.
[01:46:30.820 --> 01:46:33.140]  And of course, there's the integrations of this
[01:46:33.180 --> 01:46:34.380]  and it continues.
[01:46:34.380 --> 01:46:36.420]  Like you're interviewing me.
[01:46:36.420 --> 01:46:37.260]  We're discussing.
[01:46:37.260 --> 01:46:39.220]  I feel like it's a discussion.
[01:46:39.220 --> 01:46:42.500]  If I were to say something that later I regretted,
[01:46:42.500 --> 01:46:44.220]  I could probably say, oh, well, that wasn't me.
[01:46:44.220 --> 01:46:45.500]  That was my avatar.
[01:46:47.860 --> 01:46:49.260]  Or my agent, right?
[01:46:49.260 --> 01:46:50.100]  Yeah.
[01:46:50.100 --> 01:46:52.380]  I got an AI agent that's out there doing stuff.
[01:46:52.380 --> 01:46:53.220]  Autonomous assist.
[01:46:55.220 --> 01:46:56.460]  That's right, it's crazy.
[01:46:56.460 --> 01:46:58.580]  We also see, though, as a doctor,
[01:46:58.580 --> 01:47:02.700]  you're seeing people have noticed actual physical changes
[01:47:02.700 --> 01:47:04.980]  that can be observed in people's brains.
[01:47:04.980 --> 01:47:07.460]  I'm thinking of the story about the London taxi drivers
[01:47:07.460 --> 01:47:08.940]  who would do the knowledge.
[01:47:08.940 --> 01:47:12.020]  And they would find that after they memorized
[01:47:12.020 --> 01:47:16.740]  all these factual details and drew on that all the time
[01:47:16.740 --> 01:47:20.660]  in order to take people to this very complicated city
[01:47:20.660 --> 01:47:22.220]  with its complicated streets,
[01:47:22.220 --> 01:47:23.580]  that they had a particular part of their brain
[01:47:23.580 --> 01:47:26.860]  that was larger than the typical person.
[01:47:26.860 --> 01:47:29.820]  And then they found that once they stopped doing that,
[01:47:29.820 --> 01:47:30.820]  it started to shrink again.
[01:47:30.820 --> 01:47:33.940]  We're starting to see that happening with people
[01:47:33.940 --> 01:47:35.460]  in a lot of different areas of their life,
[01:47:35.460 --> 01:47:36.940]  that kind of atrophy.
[01:47:36.940 --> 01:47:39.060]  And it's physically observable, isn't it?
[01:47:39.980 --> 01:47:40.820]  Well, it is.
[01:47:40.820 --> 01:47:43.700]  You have to learn, you have to use the things
[01:47:43.700 --> 01:47:45.740]  that you have learned to do.
[01:47:45.740 --> 01:47:47.100]  Like I mentioned in my memory book,
[01:47:47.100 --> 01:47:50.140]  there's all kinds of memory exercises that you could do.
[01:47:50.140 --> 01:47:51.540]  I do them every day.
[01:47:51.540 --> 01:47:52.860]  And they're very easy,
[01:47:52.860 --> 01:47:57.180]  and they help you to continue with your memory,
[01:47:57.180 --> 01:47:58.700]  and to keep it sharp.
[01:47:58.700 --> 01:47:59.700]  Give us some examples.
[01:47:59.700 --> 01:48:01.380]  I'm sure everybody would love to know that.
[01:48:01.380 --> 01:48:02.660]  We'd all like to have a better memory.
[01:48:02.660 --> 01:48:05.740]  What kind of things can we do to exercise our memory?
[01:48:05.740 --> 01:48:06.820]  Well, think about the fact
[01:48:06.820 --> 01:48:09.660]  that you never had to learn pictures.
[01:48:09.660 --> 01:48:12.580]  When you were an infant and a young child,
[01:48:13.460 --> 01:48:15.860]  a picture was something that you could,
[01:48:15.860 --> 01:48:17.300]  may not know what you're looking at,
[01:48:17.300 --> 01:48:20.060]  but you could see it without an intermediary.
[01:48:20.060 --> 01:48:21.420]  Whereas language is something
[01:48:21.420 --> 01:48:24.140]  that you have to hear from other people.
[01:48:24.140 --> 01:48:28.460]  It's something that's sort of added on to the brain, okay?
[01:48:28.460 --> 01:48:29.620]  So as a result,
[01:48:29.620 --> 01:48:33.940]  the most best way of remembering something
[01:48:33.940 --> 01:48:38.940]  is to make a image for it, okay?
[01:48:39.700 --> 01:48:43.660]  For instance, I have a little dog called a Skipperkey.
[01:48:43.660 --> 01:48:46.460]  Skipperkey is a Belgian dog.
[01:48:46.460 --> 01:48:48.540]  He's a nice little fellow.
[01:48:48.540 --> 01:48:50.620]  But it was embarrassing to me when walking the street,
[01:48:50.620 --> 01:48:52.580]  people say, what kind of a dog is that?
[01:48:52.580 --> 01:48:54.380]  And I couldn't come up with a name
[01:48:54.380 --> 01:48:56.820]  because it was such a complicated,
[01:48:56.820 --> 01:48:58.060]  and I thought, that's Skipperkey.
[01:48:58.060 --> 01:49:00.620]  I didn't speak any Dutch or anything.
[01:49:00.620 --> 01:49:03.420]  So then I got this image of a small boat
[01:49:03.420 --> 01:49:08.380]  with a large captain with a beard holding a big key.
[01:49:08.380 --> 01:49:12.060]  So it was Skipperkey, and I remember forever.
[01:49:12.060 --> 01:49:13.420]  So I was gonna have the picture.
[01:49:13.420 --> 01:49:15.700]  Once I have the picture, it's easy to do.
[01:49:17.020 --> 01:49:18.660]  Another way, easy way to do it,
[01:49:18.660 --> 01:49:21.380]  and you can do that with all kinds of times, all the time.
[01:49:21.380 --> 01:49:25.500]  I was going upstairs before I came down to the office
[01:49:25.500 --> 01:49:27.700]  and I wanted to get my wallet,
[01:49:27.740 --> 01:49:30.460]  and I wanted to get my cell phone.
[01:49:30.460 --> 01:49:33.620]  So I just had an image of a wallet
[01:49:33.620 --> 01:49:34.940]  in the form of a cell phone,
[01:49:34.940 --> 01:49:36.340]  and I was walking up the stairs
[01:49:36.340 --> 01:49:39.500]  talking into the wallet cell phone.
[01:49:39.500 --> 01:49:42.380]  So I got up, and I knew I had these two elements to get.
[01:49:42.380 --> 01:49:44.980]  It'd be very easy to get one and forget the other.
[01:49:44.980 --> 01:49:47.900]  So you have these images all the time.
[01:49:47.900 --> 01:49:51.180]  And the quickest, this is sort of off the topic of the book,
[01:49:51.180 --> 01:49:56.180]  but if you wanna have a firepower memory
[01:49:56.260 --> 01:50:01.260]  for a load of things, that's up to 10 things,
[01:50:01.900 --> 01:50:04.780]  and get 10 areas that you are familiar with,
[01:50:04.780 --> 01:50:07.100]  that you see every day,
[01:50:07.100 --> 01:50:11.500]  and then you can put on those images
[01:50:11.500 --> 01:50:13.620]  the thing you're trying to remember.
[01:50:13.620 --> 01:50:18.140]  So if I'm trying to remember a loaf of bread, milk,
[01:50:21.140 --> 01:50:25.060]  maybe batteries, I have a regular way of doing that.
[01:50:25.580 --> 01:50:29.500]  I remember the library that's near my home,
[01:50:29.500 --> 01:50:33.300]  the coffee shop, liquor store,
[01:50:33.300 --> 01:50:36.300]  Georgetown University Medical School where I went,
[01:50:36.300 --> 01:50:39.980]  Georgetown University, Cafe Milano,
[01:50:39.980 --> 01:50:43.620]  which is a place in Washington everybody gathers,
[01:50:43.620 --> 01:50:48.620]  and then Keybridge, Iwo Jima Memorial, and Reagan Airport.
[01:50:50.860 --> 01:50:53.700]  So that bread would be, for instance, the loaf of bread.
[01:50:53.700 --> 01:50:55.340]  I would look in the window of the library
[01:50:55.340 --> 01:50:59.380]  instead of seeing books, I'd see bread, loaves of bread.
[01:50:59.380 --> 01:51:02.060]  And when I get down to the liquor store,
[01:51:02.060 --> 01:51:04.140]  instead of it being filled with liquor,
[01:51:04.140 --> 01:51:05.300]  there'd all be milk bottles.
[01:51:05.300 --> 01:51:06.980]  So that's how I got to get to it.
[01:51:06.980 --> 01:51:09.780]  So I have those 10, so I can get 10 items together
[01:51:09.780 --> 01:51:12.860]  without any problems at all.
[01:51:12.860 --> 01:51:13.700]  That's great.
[01:51:13.700 --> 01:51:15.540]  Yeah, it's interesting you talk about
[01:51:15.540 --> 01:51:18.540]  the importance of a visualization.
[01:51:18.540 --> 01:51:20.140]  It's one of the things that I do
[01:51:21.180 --> 01:51:22.380]  in terms of preparing for the show.
[01:51:22.380 --> 01:51:24.580]  I have a lot of articles that I go through.
[01:51:24.580 --> 01:51:27.300]  And it's really when I highlight things
[01:51:27.300 --> 01:51:29.740]  or when I write them down, that's when I can remember them.
[01:51:29.740 --> 01:51:31.740]  If I don't do that, if I were just to read these things,
[01:51:31.740 --> 01:51:33.020]  I wouldn't remember them.
[01:51:33.020 --> 01:51:35.500]  But if I interact with it and write it down,
[01:51:35.500 --> 01:51:37.220]  that helps me to remember it.
[01:51:37.220 --> 01:51:40.020]  That is a kind of visualization there, I guess, as well.
[01:51:42.100 --> 01:51:42.940]  It truly is interesting.
[01:51:42.940 --> 01:51:44.660]  And what you said earlier about memory
[01:51:44.660 --> 01:51:46.580]  not being something that is stored in a place
[01:51:46.580 --> 01:51:50.340]  as somebody coming from a computer science background,
[01:51:50.340 --> 01:51:51.700]  that was a very different thing.
[01:51:51.700 --> 01:51:54.700]  When you construct your memory,
[01:51:54.700 --> 01:51:55.980]  how do you reconstruct that?
[01:51:55.980 --> 01:52:00.980]  I mean, that opens up a whole new area of questions as well.
[01:52:01.020 --> 01:52:03.900]  In other words, if every time somebody brings up a subject,
[01:52:03.900 --> 01:52:07.500]  I mean, there isn't something that's stored initially
[01:52:07.500 --> 01:52:09.780]  to reference that and then rebuild from that?
[01:52:10.980 --> 01:52:11.820]  Yeah, there's that.
[01:52:11.820 --> 01:52:14.500]  Plus, there's the interconnections.
[01:52:14.500 --> 01:52:16.420]  Somebody listening to us might say,
[01:52:16.420 --> 01:52:19.100]  well, gee, this is called the 21st century of brain,
[01:52:19.100 --> 01:52:20.780]  but I haven't heard that much about the brain.
[01:52:20.860 --> 01:52:23.980]  Let me just link that up so that these things make sense.
[01:52:24.980 --> 01:52:27.220]  We have a new version, or I should say,
[01:52:27.220 --> 01:52:28.580]  a new understanding of the brain
[01:52:28.580 --> 01:52:30.780]  called the connectomic brain,
[01:52:30.780 --> 01:52:35.180]  in which there's all kinds of interactions in the brain
[01:52:35.180 --> 01:52:37.660]  of parts of the brain which you don't,
[01:52:37.660 --> 01:52:39.580]  we're just learning about.
[01:52:39.580 --> 01:52:43.180]  I have the, I use the metaphor of a bowl of spaghetti.
[01:52:43.180 --> 01:52:46.460]  You pull out one of the strains of spaghetti
[01:52:46.460 --> 01:52:48.940]  and you never have any idea what it's connected to,
[01:52:48.940 --> 01:52:53.420]  how many other strains of spaghetti this is connected to.
[01:52:53.420 --> 01:52:54.980]  So that's, if you think of the brain
[01:52:54.980 --> 01:52:59.980]  as being kind of set to make connections,
[01:53:00.260 --> 01:53:03.060]  that's its natural processing.
[01:53:03.060 --> 01:53:04.420]  So it gets back to these things
[01:53:04.420 --> 01:53:06.660]  that we were talking about earlier,
[01:53:06.660 --> 01:53:10.900]  global warming and memory and surveillance and all that.
[01:53:10.900 --> 01:53:12.460]  How are we gonna solve all those?
[01:53:12.460 --> 01:53:14.140]  Well, somehow or other,
[01:53:14.140 --> 01:53:18.660]  those things are connected with each other.
[01:53:18.660 --> 01:53:21.380]  That's the take home message to this book.
[01:53:21.380 --> 01:53:25.580]  And the basic goal is to try to figure out
[01:53:25.580 --> 01:53:28.300]  what it is that connects these things,
[01:53:28.300 --> 01:53:30.420]  what it is that would allow us to,
[01:53:31.780 --> 01:53:36.220]  by solving one of them, solve the other.
[01:53:36.220 --> 01:53:37.460]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson,
[01:53:37.460 --> 01:53:39.540]  and I want you to pause what you're doing
[01:53:39.540 --> 01:53:40.660]  for just one minute,
[01:53:40.660 --> 01:53:43.460]  and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[01:53:43.460 --> 01:53:46.940]  She lives in a remote community with very few resources
[01:53:46.940 --> 01:53:49.460]  and little to no healthcare.
[01:53:49.460 --> 01:53:51.460]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[01:53:51.460 --> 01:53:53.580]  her parents have no real options,
[01:53:53.580 --> 01:53:55.780]  no doctors in their community,
[01:53:55.780 --> 01:53:59.220]  and no money for real medical care.
[01:53:59.220 --> 01:54:01.940]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[01:54:01.940 --> 01:54:05.220]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
[01:54:05.220 --> 01:54:08.060]  I can't take the pain anymore.
[01:54:08.060 --> 01:54:09.860]  I can't keep going.
[01:54:09.860 --> 01:54:12.620]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[01:54:12.620 --> 01:54:14.180]  who tried everything,
[01:54:14.180 --> 01:54:16.300]  but she needed a private hospital.
[01:54:16.540 --> 01:54:19.860]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[01:54:19.860 --> 01:54:23.820]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[01:54:23.820 --> 01:54:27.060]  Now through Compassion, Alejandra was treated,
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[01:55:36.260 --> 01:55:39.500]  And I mentioned at the end of the book,
[01:55:39.540 --> 01:55:42.020]  experts so far haven't done it.
[01:55:42.020 --> 01:55:45.060]  So it's useful, as Hayek said,
[01:55:45.060 --> 01:55:47.660]  to get ordinary people to give,
[01:55:47.660 --> 01:55:51.180]  when I say ordinary, I mean non-specialized people,
[01:55:51.180 --> 01:55:52.540]  to give their ideas.
[01:55:52.540 --> 01:55:55.700]  Gee, I wonder what such and such would happen.
[01:55:55.700 --> 01:55:57.060]  What would happen about global warming?
[01:55:57.060 --> 01:55:58.260]  For a while there was, in fact,
[01:55:58.260 --> 01:56:02.260]  there's still experiments going on on the effect of sulfur
[01:56:02.260 --> 01:56:06.300]  that would help the CO2 problem.
[01:56:07.300 --> 01:56:11.580]  And shooting sulfur up into the atmosphere.
[01:56:11.580 --> 01:56:16.260]  Of course, the reason for that was the volcano in 1980,
[01:56:16.260 --> 01:56:20.860]  something, in which after that volcano in Hawaii,
[01:56:20.860 --> 01:56:23.860]  it was noted that the air was clearer
[01:56:23.860 --> 01:56:26.180]  and there was less pollution.
[01:56:26.180 --> 01:56:28.020]  So that's something to think about.
[01:56:28.020 --> 01:56:32.220]  Is there some way of using that particular sulfur experiment
[01:56:32.220 --> 01:56:34.660]  to decrease global warming?
[01:56:36.380 --> 01:56:38.660]  War, for instance, we don't think of war
[01:56:38.660 --> 01:56:41.180]  as a cause of global warming, but it is.
[01:56:41.180 --> 01:56:42.580]  Or CO2.
[01:56:42.580 --> 01:56:44.140]  Thermonuclear warning.
[01:56:44.140 --> 01:56:49.140]  Yeah, but what upsets the Ukraine war and the Gaza war,
[01:56:51.260 --> 01:56:55.060]  then the tremendous amount that's gonna overcome
[01:56:55.060 --> 01:56:58.380]  and exceed the benefit of any of these things
[01:56:58.380 --> 01:57:01.780]  like non-gasoline engines,
[01:57:01.780 --> 01:57:04.580]  but using lighter and things like that.
[01:57:04.660 --> 01:57:05.500]  Absolutely, yeah.
[01:57:05.500 --> 01:57:08.380]  It's kind of like shooting up rockets
[01:57:08.380 --> 01:57:09.980]  in order to put satellites up.
[01:57:09.980 --> 01:57:14.980]  How many cars and lifetime use of cars from people
[01:57:15.020 --> 01:57:16.060]  would that be equivalent to?
[01:57:16.060 --> 01:57:17.900]  And then you start talking about all the missiles
[01:57:17.900 --> 01:57:18.860]  that are being shot,
[01:57:18.860 --> 01:57:21.660]  and then you get to the explosives as well.
[01:57:21.660 --> 01:57:24.900]  It is really interesting how they focus
[01:57:24.900 --> 01:57:28.940]  on their objectives for their ways to control it.
[01:57:28.940 --> 01:57:32.100]  The manipulation's been going on for quite some time.
[01:57:32.860 --> 01:57:35.580]  So, yeah, that is pretty amazing.
[01:57:35.580 --> 01:57:37.580]  And I guess that's my,
[01:57:39.380 --> 01:57:40.220]  when you look at this stuff,
[01:57:40.220 --> 01:57:41.700]  it really does look like science fiction,
[01:57:41.700 --> 01:57:44.820]  and I'm almost inclined to write it off when I first see it,
[01:57:44.820 --> 01:57:45.660]  when DARPA is saying,
[01:57:45.660 --> 01:57:46.900]  well, we need to find some way
[01:57:46.900 --> 01:57:50.700]  that we can erase memories in people
[01:57:50.700 --> 01:57:52.700]  and insert new memories into them.
[01:57:52.700 --> 01:57:55.860]  I mean, we're going back to total recall, right?
[01:57:55.860 --> 01:57:59.260]  So it sounds like something from a Philip K. Dick novel,
[01:57:59.260 --> 01:58:01.100]  but they're really working on that.
[01:58:01.100 --> 01:58:02.940]  And I guess one of the most striking things that we saw,
[01:58:02.940 --> 01:58:05.180]  we reported on a couple of weeks ago,
[01:58:05.180 --> 01:58:07.980]  and it was a company that was bragging about
[01:58:07.980 --> 01:58:12.380]  how they could read your mind more accurately
[01:58:12.380 --> 01:58:14.220]  and quickly than their competitors,
[01:58:14.220 --> 01:58:15.620]  because there's a lot of different companies
[01:58:15.620 --> 01:58:16.820]  that are doing this.
[01:58:16.820 --> 01:58:18.180]  And how they could,
[01:58:19.180 --> 01:58:21.900]  it was called Brain IT was the name of the company,
[01:58:21.900 --> 01:58:26.420]  and so they had a way that they would do MRI,
[01:58:26.420 --> 01:58:31.420]  and they could essentially train it on your brain
[01:58:31.700 --> 01:58:33.260]  in a much shorter period of time than the other people,
[01:58:33.260 --> 01:58:34.740]  and they could get much better results,
[01:58:34.740 --> 01:58:36.420]  and our producers just pulled this up.
[01:58:36.420 --> 01:58:38.980]  So what they do is they show you an image,
[01:58:38.980 --> 01:58:40.540]  and you're looking at that image,
[01:58:40.540 --> 01:58:41.740]  and then it's reading your mind
[01:58:41.740 --> 01:58:43.900]  and reconstructing what you're looking at,
[01:58:43.900 --> 01:58:46.060]  which I thought was absolutely amazing
[01:58:46.060 --> 01:58:48.140]  and terrifying at the same time.
[01:58:48.140 --> 01:58:49.700]  How is this going to be used?
[01:58:49.700 --> 01:58:51.500]  I guess that's the real issue.
[01:58:51.500 --> 01:58:53.580]  When we start talking about all these different things,
[01:58:53.580 --> 01:58:56.140]  I think that is the real case
[01:58:56.740 --> 01:58:59.300]  that it's difficult for people to understand just how far
[01:58:59.300 --> 01:59:02.340]  and how quickly the technology has progressed,
[01:59:02.340 --> 01:59:05.260]  and then to say, and how do we control this
[01:59:05.260 --> 01:59:07.940]  from it being used for bad purposes?
[01:59:09.060 --> 01:59:12.980]  Well, that's a specifically 21st century problem,
[01:59:12.980 --> 01:59:16.180]  because all of these things have either originated
[01:59:16.180 --> 01:59:17.780]  in the 21st century,
[01:59:17.780 --> 01:59:20.740]  or they have in fact further developed
[01:59:20.740 --> 01:59:23.660]  and become increasingly threatening.
[01:59:23.660 --> 01:59:27.180]  And bear in mind, we have to solve these problems,
[01:59:27.180 --> 01:59:29.580]  because they're not something that's gonna go away.
[01:59:29.580 --> 01:59:32.500]  And then the most important thing to remember, David,
[01:59:32.500 --> 01:59:36.220]  is that all of these things harm the brain,
[01:59:36.220 --> 01:59:39.700]  and the brain is the thinking processor
[01:59:39.700 --> 01:59:41.140]  that's gonna save us.
[01:59:41.140 --> 01:59:43.540]  It's gonna figure out what the problems,
[01:59:43.540 --> 01:59:45.820]  what the solutions to the problems are.
[01:59:45.820 --> 01:59:49.220]  So we know now that wildfire smoke, for instance,
[01:59:49.220 --> 01:59:51.420]  it creates dementia.
[01:59:51.420 --> 01:59:55.580]  It enhances the likelihood of somebody coming to med it.
[01:59:55.580 --> 01:59:58.860]  So as the brain is affected negatively,
[01:59:58.860 --> 02:00:02.380]  increasingly over longer and longer periods of time,
[02:00:02.380 --> 02:00:06.180]  our ability to solve these problems is going to decrease.
[02:00:06.180 --> 02:00:07.700]  So we've got to do it now.
[02:00:07.700 --> 02:00:09.700]  We've got to get serious about it.
[02:00:09.700 --> 02:00:12.500]  And this business of people getting up and saying
[02:00:12.500 --> 02:00:14.780]  that global warming is fiction,
[02:00:14.780 --> 02:00:18.500]  and all that is really very, very disturbing.
[02:00:19.460 --> 02:00:21.740]  Well, the example that you gave earlier
[02:00:21.740 --> 02:00:24.460]  of the fact that the Indian government
[02:00:24.460 --> 02:00:26.140]  was manipulating the temperature
[02:00:26.140 --> 02:00:27.980]  at some of the stations there,
[02:00:27.980 --> 02:00:30.140]  that kind of works both ways.
[02:00:30.140 --> 02:00:32.020]  They have put some of these temperature stations
[02:00:32.020 --> 02:00:33.700]  on the airport tarmacs.
[02:00:33.700 --> 02:00:37.460]  And in the UK, they have a lot of the temperature stations
[02:00:37.460 --> 02:00:38.300]  that they've got there.
[02:00:38.300 --> 02:00:39.860]  They're just extrapolating the data.
[02:00:39.860 --> 02:00:42.460]  They don't have real temperature measurement stations there.
[02:00:42.460 --> 02:00:44.740]  So it all really gets back, I think,
[02:00:44.740 --> 02:00:46.540]  to the scientific method.
[02:00:46.580 --> 02:00:48.980]  And that's really where we have to hold people's feet
[02:00:48.980 --> 02:00:49.820]  to the fire.
[02:00:49.820 --> 02:00:51.020]  We're talking about something like that.
[02:00:51.020 --> 02:00:54.300]  We can have an absolute standard of what truth is.
[02:00:54.300 --> 02:00:56.980]  And that truth is going to be being able
[02:00:56.980 --> 02:00:58.700]  to measure something accurately
[02:00:58.700 --> 02:01:00.940]  and being able to reproduce that.
[02:01:00.940 --> 02:01:03.620]  And then I think a good yardstick for that
[02:01:03.620 --> 02:01:06.340]  is when somebody is trying to hide their data,
[02:01:06.340 --> 02:01:09.740]  that's the clue right there that they're not doing science
[02:01:09.740 --> 02:01:11.420]  because if they're doing science
[02:01:11.420 --> 02:01:13.900]  and they've come to the right conclusion,
[02:01:13.900 --> 02:01:15.060]  they don't have a problem with somebody
[02:01:15.060 --> 02:01:17.020]  looking at their data.
[02:01:17.020 --> 02:01:19.060]  And so I've got a question here for you
[02:01:19.060 --> 02:01:22.300]  from a person in the audience asking if you know
[02:01:22.300 --> 02:01:26.020]  about Drs. James Giordano and Charles Morgan
[02:01:26.020 --> 02:01:27.020]  and their work with military.
[02:01:27.020 --> 02:01:28.900]  I'm not familiar with those names.
[02:01:28.900 --> 02:01:31.260]  I don't know if you know anything about that or not.
[02:01:31.260 --> 02:01:32.940]  The Giordano says familiar.
[02:01:32.940 --> 02:01:36.700]  What particular thing are they asking about them?
[02:01:36.700 --> 02:01:37.540]  I don't know.
[02:01:37.540 --> 02:01:38.420]  It just says their work with military.
[02:01:38.420 --> 02:01:39.940]  I guess it would have to do with something,
[02:01:39.940 --> 02:01:41.060]  but you haven't heard of it.
[02:01:41.060 --> 02:01:41.900]  I'm not sure.
[02:01:42.540 --> 02:01:46.140]  I could say Giordano did this or did that.
[02:01:46.140 --> 02:01:47.700]  Sure, I understand.
[02:01:47.700 --> 02:01:49.780]  Yeah, let's talk a little bit about the things
[02:01:49.780 --> 02:01:52.460]  that we have been anxious about.
[02:01:52.460 --> 02:01:55.260]  And of course, as Christians, we have one answer to it,
[02:01:55.260 --> 02:01:57.340]  but you talk about how this is something
[02:01:57.340 --> 02:02:00.820]  that has been around pretty much all of our life.
[02:02:00.820 --> 02:02:04.540]  I mean, I grew up with anxiety about nuclear war,
[02:02:04.540 --> 02:02:08.060]  for example, that was on everybody's television
[02:02:08.060 --> 02:02:11.140]  and that was forefront of our mind,
[02:02:11.140 --> 02:02:13.340]  especially growing up in Florida
[02:02:13.340 --> 02:02:14.940]  when the Cuban Missile Crisis was happening.
[02:02:14.940 --> 02:02:16.420]  They got us really afraid of that
[02:02:16.420 --> 02:02:18.060]  when I was in elementary school.
[02:02:18.060 --> 02:02:19.460]  It's like, there's not gonna be enough time
[02:02:19.460 --> 02:02:22.460]  for you to get home when the nuclear bombs start falling.
[02:02:22.460 --> 02:02:25.260]  And so, I mean, there's all these different ways
[02:02:25.260 --> 02:02:26.300]  that you can panic people.
[02:02:26.300 --> 02:02:31.100]  I guess part of it is how do we identify the real problems
[02:02:31.100 --> 02:02:34.140]  and how do we deal with those problems?
[02:02:34.140 --> 02:02:37.420]  Because there's always things that are competing
[02:02:37.420 --> 02:02:40.140]  for our attention and our anxiety,
[02:02:40.180 --> 02:02:41.940]  many of which are not real.
[02:02:41.940 --> 02:02:43.540]  And usually the things that you're really
[02:02:43.540 --> 02:02:45.820]  the most concerned about don't happen.
[02:02:45.820 --> 02:02:47.180]  And it may be sometimes
[02:02:47.180 --> 02:02:49.900]  because you have taken a precaution about it.
[02:02:49.900 --> 02:02:52.220]  What would you say about that, about anxiety?
[02:02:57.220 --> 02:02:58.980]  You're starting to break up a little bit.
[02:02:58.980 --> 02:03:00.060]  Can you hear me clearly?
[02:03:00.060 --> 02:03:01.180]  I hear you, yes, yes.
[02:03:01.180 --> 02:03:02.020]  Sorry about that.
[02:03:02.020 --> 02:03:02.860]  You're talking about-
[02:03:02.860 --> 02:03:04.620]  It's breaking up a little bit.
[02:03:04.620 --> 02:03:07.180]  You're talking about traumatizing a population.
[02:03:07.940 --> 02:03:10.700]  You know, what do I do to guard against that type of thing?
[02:03:10.700 --> 02:03:13.340]  And of course, that's going to really escalate
[02:03:13.340 --> 02:03:17.260]  with the ability of AI to create a narrative.
[02:03:19.900 --> 02:03:24.220]  Yeah, well, let's talk as an avenue to get into that.
[02:03:24.220 --> 02:03:27.340]  Let's go back to what you brought about the atomic weapons
[02:03:27.340 --> 02:03:30.460]  and the atomic war and the fears of the people
[02:03:30.460 --> 02:03:33.140]  that there's gonna be another atomic war.
[02:03:33.140 --> 02:03:35.980]  I mean, you know, this is not unrealistic.
[02:03:35.980 --> 02:03:38.620]  There's even been a movie that's just come out
[02:03:38.620 --> 02:03:41.100]  that's getting all kinds of attention, as you know,
[02:03:41.100 --> 02:03:45.460]  and it has to do with the threat of a nuclear war.
[02:03:45.460 --> 02:03:48.980]  Things in the, if you look at what's happening
[02:03:48.980 --> 02:03:52.260]  in Europe right now, there's all kinds of suggestions
[02:03:52.260 --> 02:03:53.900]  that it could lead to a nuclear war.
[02:03:53.900 --> 02:03:56.260]  I mean, Ukraine now has announced
[02:03:56.260 --> 02:03:57.940]  that they're under no conditions
[02:03:57.940 --> 02:03:59.260]  willing to give up any land.
[02:03:59.260 --> 02:04:03.780]  And Stalin is, I mean, Putin is thinking
[02:04:03.780 --> 02:04:05.540]  what he can do to change that.
[02:04:06.180 --> 02:04:08.020]  Maybe he'll attack another country.
[02:04:08.020 --> 02:04:10.700]  I mean, this is scary stuff.
[02:04:10.700 --> 02:04:13.780]  So what's happening in response to the government
[02:04:13.780 --> 02:04:17.260]  is to try to show that, oh, we shouldn't worry about it.
[02:04:17.260 --> 02:04:18.500]  We have things under control,
[02:04:18.500 --> 02:04:20.700]  but I don't think things are under control.
[02:04:23.060 --> 02:04:25.220]  And we've talked about the problems
[02:04:25.220 --> 02:04:26.260]  and we've talked about problems.
[02:04:26.260 --> 02:04:31.140]  You have your final chapter is new ways of thinking.
[02:04:31.140 --> 02:04:34.100]  And I'd like to talk about that.
[02:04:34.100 --> 02:04:36.660]  One of the things that you say is Ockham was wrong,
[02:04:36.660 --> 02:04:40.020]  Ockham's razor that people are familiar with.
[02:04:40.020 --> 02:04:41.020]  Tell us a little bit about that.
[02:04:41.020 --> 02:04:42.020]  Why is Ockham wrong?
[02:04:43.780 --> 02:04:45.340]  Well, because he says that, you know,
[02:04:45.340 --> 02:04:48.140]  the entities are not to be multiplied,
[02:04:48.140 --> 02:04:50.300]  meaning that we can always explain things best
[02:04:50.300 --> 02:04:54.340]  by limiting ourselves to the minimal amount of factors,
[02:04:54.340 --> 02:04:55.180]  ideally.
[02:04:55.180 --> 02:04:56.340]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[02:04:56.340 --> 02:04:58.420]  And I want you to pause what you're doing
[02:04:58.420 --> 02:04:59.540]  for just one minute.
[02:04:59.540 --> 02:05:02.340]  And I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[02:05:02.340 --> 02:05:05.820]  She lives in a remote community with very few resources
[02:05:05.820 --> 02:05:08.300]  and little to no healthcare.
[02:05:08.300 --> 02:05:10.300]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[02:05:10.300 --> 02:05:12.420]  her parents have no real options,
[02:05:12.420 --> 02:05:14.660]  no doctors in their community
[02:05:14.660 --> 02:05:18.060]  and no money for real medical care.
[02:05:18.060 --> 02:05:20.780]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[02:05:20.780 --> 02:05:24.140]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
[02:05:24.140 --> 02:05:26.940]  I can't take the pain anymore.
[02:05:26.940 --> 02:05:28.700]  I can't keep going.
[02:05:28.700 --> 02:05:31.460]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[02:05:31.460 --> 02:05:35.180]  who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[02:05:35.180 --> 02:05:38.660]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[02:05:38.660 --> 02:05:42.620]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[02:05:42.620 --> 02:05:45.860]  Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated
[02:05:45.860 --> 02:05:48.900]  and against all odds, she survived.
[02:05:48.900 --> 02:05:52.860]  She lived because someone just like you took action.
[02:05:52.860 --> 02:05:55.140]  Right now, unfortunately, there are children
[02:05:55.140 --> 02:05:57.980]  just like Alejandra who won't survive
[02:05:57.980 --> 02:06:00.540]  unless someone like you steps in.
[02:06:00.540 --> 02:06:04.300]  Compassion International partners with local churches,
[02:06:04.300 --> 02:06:07.300]  providing children with the support that they need.
[02:06:07.300 --> 02:06:11.340]  Critical medical care plus food, education
[02:06:11.340 --> 02:06:15.420]  and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
[02:06:15.420 --> 02:06:19.180]  So help a child just like Alejandra today.
[02:06:19.180 --> 02:06:21.740]  You can visit Compassion.com.
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[02:06:55.020 --> 02:06:57.900]  One, one cause of every fact.
[02:06:57.900 --> 02:06:58.740]  That's not true.
[02:06:58.740 --> 02:07:00.980]  It's certainly not true in the 21st century
[02:07:00.980 --> 02:07:03.140]  where there's all kinds of interactions
[02:07:03.140 --> 02:07:06.180]  between factors and causes.
[02:07:06.180 --> 02:07:08.900]  So that Ockham was wrong in that basis.
[02:07:08.900 --> 02:07:12.100]  We have to think of an interconnecting pool,
[02:07:12.100 --> 02:07:14.860]  just as in the brain of interconnections of neurons,
[02:07:14.860 --> 02:07:16.500]  interconnections of these problems,
[02:07:16.500 --> 02:07:18.180]  and they're all related.
[02:07:18.180 --> 02:07:19.020]  They're all related.
[02:07:19.020 --> 02:07:21.260]  All eight of them I talk about in my book,
[02:07:21.260 --> 02:07:22.220]  they're all related.
[02:07:22.220 --> 02:07:24.860]  And if you can figure a way of influencing one,
[02:07:24.860 --> 02:07:26.580]  you influence all the others.
[02:07:26.820 --> 02:07:29.900]  I mean, who would think there'd be a connection
[02:07:29.900 --> 02:07:33.260]  between global warming and the amount of partisan
[02:07:33.260 --> 02:07:37.220]  and cheese, for instance, high-end cheese?
[02:07:37.220 --> 02:07:41.420]  Well, there is because chickens don't lay many eggs
[02:07:41.420 --> 02:07:43.420]  and there'd be all the various other things
[02:07:43.420 --> 02:07:47.020]  that'll come on in terms of making cheese.
[02:07:47.020 --> 02:07:48.780]  I learned that the other day.
[02:07:48.780 --> 02:07:51.580]  That was something that was a surprise to me.
[02:07:51.580 --> 02:07:52.460]  You know, it's kind of interesting
[02:07:52.460 --> 02:07:54.180]  when you talk about connections so much.
[02:07:54.180 --> 02:07:56.060]  There was a series that was,
[02:07:56.100 --> 02:07:57.340]  I think it was on PBS.
[02:07:57.340 --> 02:07:58.620]  I think the guy's name was Burke.
[02:07:58.620 --> 02:07:59.740]  I can't remember his first name.
[02:07:59.740 --> 02:08:00.940]  I'm not sure about the last name,
[02:08:00.940 --> 02:08:03.780]  but he had a series called Connections.
[02:08:03.780 --> 02:08:05.740]  And I thought it was fascinating
[02:08:05.740 --> 02:08:08.220]  because what he would do is he would take
[02:08:08.220 --> 02:08:10.860]  a whole series of connections to show
[02:08:10.860 --> 02:08:13.540]  how a particular technology had evolved.
[02:08:13.540 --> 02:08:18.180]  So he might go from the quill to the jet engine
[02:08:18.180 --> 02:08:19.380]  or something like that.
[02:08:19.380 --> 02:08:23.500]  And it was a fascinating thread of things.
[02:08:23.500 --> 02:08:25.860]  It's very much like what you're talking about.
[02:08:26.900 --> 02:08:27.740]  It really is.
[02:08:27.740 --> 02:08:29.780]  And I did consult his work, actually.
[02:08:29.780 --> 02:08:30.620]  Did you?
[02:08:30.620 --> 02:08:31.660]  I was writing this book
[02:08:31.660 --> 02:08:33.860]  because he did that Connections.
[02:08:33.860 --> 02:08:36.260]  He did a book called The Day the World Changed
[02:08:36.260 --> 02:08:37.100]  and all this.
[02:08:37.100 --> 02:08:39.460]  He also did a book called Circles
[02:08:39.460 --> 02:08:42.100]  in which he would start with one particular event
[02:08:42.100 --> 02:08:43.860]  that it had carried in history.
[02:08:43.860 --> 02:08:45.300]  And if you go around the circle,
[02:08:45.300 --> 02:08:48.300]  you come back to the beginning where it started
[02:08:48.300 --> 02:08:51.300]  where this particular inventor invented something.
[02:08:51.300 --> 02:08:52.500]  What led up to it?
[02:08:52.500 --> 02:08:54.380]  What was the circle leading to that?
[02:08:54.460 --> 02:08:56.300]  What was the circle leading to that?
[02:08:56.300 --> 02:08:58.820]  So yes, we're talking about connections
[02:08:58.820 --> 02:09:00.620]  and we're talking about the inability
[02:09:00.620 --> 02:09:03.660]  to understand things without reference
[02:09:03.660 --> 02:09:06.780]  to supporting and accessory factors.
[02:09:06.780 --> 02:09:09.060]  We have that going on all the time,
[02:09:09.060 --> 02:09:12.060]  denying things that are going to be happening.
[02:09:12.060 --> 02:09:13.740]  And of course, I think the fearful thing
[02:09:13.740 --> 02:09:16.940]  is that the government is aiding in this denial
[02:09:17.940 --> 02:09:20.500]  because if you would deny that there's a problem,
[02:09:20.500 --> 02:09:23.940]  then there's very little impetus to try to solve it.
[02:09:25.340 --> 02:09:28.780]  If there ain't no problem, don't try to solve it.
[02:09:30.780 --> 02:09:33.460]  They're throwing out their own chaos
[02:09:33.460 --> 02:09:36.420]  and uncertainty and anxiety that's out there all the time,
[02:09:36.420 --> 02:09:38.180]  always, I guess.
[02:09:38.180 --> 02:09:39.980]  So the question is,
[02:09:39.980 --> 02:09:42.420]  she's talking about volatility, uncertainty,
[02:09:42.420 --> 02:09:44.300]  complexity, and ambiguity.
[02:09:44.300 --> 02:09:46.620]  I mean, it sounds like a government policy.
[02:09:46.620 --> 02:09:49.420]  I think they've got bureaucracies that specialize in that.
[02:09:50.660 --> 02:09:51.500]  Yeah.
[02:09:51.500 --> 02:09:53.460]  Well, actually, that's true.
[02:09:53.700 --> 02:09:56.340]  That's in your section there about new ways of thinking.
[02:09:56.340 --> 02:09:58.340]  And so how do we incorporate that
[02:09:58.340 --> 02:09:59.580]  in the new ways of thinking
[02:09:59.580 --> 02:10:01.700]  that help us to solve this riddle?
[02:10:03.460 --> 02:10:05.500]  Well, each of those factors
[02:10:05.500 --> 02:10:10.420]  is a factor that helps you to understand things
[02:10:10.420 --> 02:10:12.140]  and to have more control.
[02:10:12.140 --> 02:10:12.980]  It doesn't necessarily mean
[02:10:12.980 --> 02:10:15.020]  it helps you to link them together.
[02:10:15.020 --> 02:10:17.260]  That has to be done by original thinking.
[02:10:18.740 --> 02:10:20.540]  You have to be under those things.
[02:10:20.580 --> 02:10:21.460]  Things are volatile.
[02:10:21.460 --> 02:10:25.980]  You don't have a basic situation that doesn't change.
[02:10:25.980 --> 02:10:27.740]  It changes all the time.
[02:10:27.740 --> 02:10:31.340]  So the other thing that I want to emphasize most
[02:10:31.340 --> 02:10:35.500]  is the role of capitalism in all of this.
[02:10:35.500 --> 02:10:38.460]  I mean, there's all this, like the private equity,
[02:10:38.460 --> 02:10:43.220]  the business of people having a point of view
[02:10:43.220 --> 02:10:47.020]  that is going to advance them financially
[02:10:47.020 --> 02:10:50.500]  and that blinding them to the problems
[02:10:51.460 --> 02:10:52.300]  that are here.
[02:10:52.300 --> 02:10:53.900]  Like, for instance, we talked about global warming.
[02:10:53.900 --> 02:10:56.340]  Well, the rich people, very rich people,
[02:10:56.340 --> 02:11:00.940]  are buying multimillion dollar apartments and condominiums
[02:11:00.940 --> 02:11:03.380]  which have special air filters
[02:11:03.380 --> 02:11:06.140]  which will keep the wildfire smoke out
[02:11:06.140 --> 02:11:11.140]  and will try to keep the global warming effect at bay
[02:11:12.020 --> 02:11:16.700]  by super power air conditioners.
[02:11:16.700 --> 02:11:17.540]  So the-
[02:11:17.540 --> 02:11:20.300]  Of course, they're building their own bunkers too.
[02:11:21.140 --> 02:11:22.940]  They're building things that are creating all kinds
[02:11:22.940 --> 02:11:27.060]  of chaos and weapons of war, mass destruction.
[02:11:27.060 --> 02:11:30.620]  They're building super bunkers in various places as well.
[02:11:30.620 --> 02:11:32.700]  So I think they're somewhat pessimistic
[02:11:32.700 --> 02:11:33.940]  about what they're doing.
[02:11:34.940 --> 02:11:37.060]  Well, it's basically the idea is that
[02:11:37.060 --> 02:11:39.460]  we don't care about the ordinary person.
[02:11:39.460 --> 02:11:40.540]  We're going to survive.
[02:11:40.540 --> 02:11:42.820]  We're going to see to our own survival.
[02:11:42.820 --> 02:11:46.060]  And in order to do that, we have to deny certain things
[02:11:46.060 --> 02:11:48.540]  that are going on will do so.
[02:11:48.540 --> 02:11:52.420]  Now, incidentally, all of this is not conscious thinking.
[02:11:52.420 --> 02:11:53.500]  They don't necessarily say,
[02:11:53.500 --> 02:11:56.460]  well, I'm going to deny global warming
[02:11:56.460 --> 02:11:58.900]  because it'll be to my advantage financially
[02:11:58.900 --> 02:12:03.340]  because all my investment is in the oil and gas industry.
[02:12:03.340 --> 02:12:05.140]  They don't do it that way.
[02:12:05.140 --> 02:12:08.100]  They come up with pseudo logic,
[02:12:08.100 --> 02:12:09.980]  things that seem to make sense to them.
[02:12:09.980 --> 02:12:14.260]  But if they didn't have a financial thrust in the matter,
[02:12:14.260 --> 02:12:16.820]  they would look at upon it quite differently.
[02:12:16.860 --> 02:12:17.700]  That's right.
[02:12:17.700 --> 02:12:19.620]  We can always find a justification for what it was,
[02:12:19.620 --> 02:12:22.020]  what it is that we really want.
[02:12:22.020 --> 02:12:23.820]  Everybody should understand that if you're a parent
[02:12:23.820 --> 02:12:25.540]  this time of year at Christmas time,
[02:12:25.540 --> 02:12:27.900]  you can always understand that people will come up
[02:12:27.900 --> 02:12:29.820]  with a justification for what they want.
[02:12:29.820 --> 02:12:32.220]  And that's as true of a government
[02:12:32.220 --> 02:12:33.820]  as it is of corporations out there.
[02:12:33.820 --> 02:12:35.660]  And it's really dangerous when the two of them
[02:12:35.660 --> 02:12:36.820]  connect with each other.
[02:12:36.820 --> 02:12:38.140]  I think that's one of the things,
[02:12:38.140 --> 02:12:40.460]  you talk about connections and the importance of it
[02:12:40.460 --> 02:12:43.820]  and how we can try to connect these different factors,
[02:12:43.820 --> 02:12:44.780]  each of us individually.
[02:12:44.780 --> 02:12:48.020]  But I think it's the human connection that is out there
[02:12:48.020 --> 02:12:50.660]  that is going to be essential for all of this.
[02:12:50.660 --> 02:12:54.260]  It's gonna be our collective work on all this.
[02:12:54.260 --> 02:12:55.260]  What do you think about that?
[02:12:55.260 --> 02:12:56.500]  Would you agree with that?
[02:12:58.020 --> 02:12:58.940]  Well, I'd agree with it,
[02:12:58.940 --> 02:13:00.860]  but there's so many things that are taking place now
[02:13:00.860 --> 02:13:03.780]  that are causing the schisms
[02:13:03.780 --> 02:13:08.420]  and splitting people into factors and belief systems
[02:13:08.420 --> 02:13:11.500]  and political points of view that are,
[02:13:11.500 --> 02:13:12.980]  and that's very dangerous
[02:13:12.980 --> 02:13:16.300]  because then you can't get together any kind of unity,
[02:13:16.300 --> 02:13:18.740]  even in the face of an emergency.
[02:13:18.740 --> 02:13:22.700]  Well, I think we've always had these factor,
[02:13:22.700 --> 02:13:24.060]  factions and things like that.
[02:13:24.060 --> 02:13:25.780]  The founders of the country warned about
[02:13:25.780 --> 02:13:27.060]  factions and political parties.
[02:13:27.060 --> 02:13:28.860]  But I think what makes it unique
[02:13:28.860 --> 02:13:31.420]  is that when you're interacting with people
[02:13:31.420 --> 02:13:33.220]  on a personal basis,
[02:13:33.220 --> 02:13:35.220]  you interact with them a little bit differently
[02:13:35.220 --> 02:13:38.340]  than if you've got that separation between you
[02:13:38.340 --> 02:13:40.340]  that technology is giving us now.
[02:13:40.340 --> 02:13:42.100]  Because now you're interacting with something
[02:13:42.100 --> 02:13:44.140]  that's abstract, it's not with another person.
[02:13:44.140 --> 02:13:46.220]  And there's also the body language
[02:13:46.220 --> 02:13:48.140]  that you're not picking up on.
[02:13:48.140 --> 02:13:50.620]  But it makes it easier for you to be harder on people
[02:13:50.620 --> 02:13:53.060]  when there's that distance there, I think.
[02:13:53.060 --> 02:13:55.300]  That's why I think the personal connection,
[02:13:55.300 --> 02:13:58.780]  I think is really vital to making these connections
[02:13:58.780 --> 02:14:01.260]  and coming up with an understanding of what's going on.
[02:14:01.260 --> 02:14:04.140]  When you talk about the hidden factors that are out there,
[02:14:04.140 --> 02:14:06.380]  hidden unrelated topics, other people,
[02:14:06.380 --> 02:14:08.140]  as you pointed out earlier,
[02:14:08.140 --> 02:14:09.740]  just talking to ordinary people
[02:14:09.780 --> 02:14:12.260]  about what it is that you see with different things.
[02:14:12.260 --> 02:14:13.820]  I think that is the genius
[02:14:13.820 --> 02:14:16.140]  of the collective free market out there,
[02:14:16.140 --> 02:14:19.660]  that there's so many observers
[02:14:19.660 --> 02:14:22.500]  who are looking at things and thinking about them.
[02:14:22.500 --> 02:14:24.660]  And it's kind of their collective decision
[02:14:24.660 --> 02:14:27.380]  that is kind of guiding things along,
[02:14:27.380 --> 02:14:30.780]  as opposed to having a central planner who's doing that.
[02:14:30.780 --> 02:14:31.820]  What do you think about that?
[02:14:31.820 --> 02:14:34.220]  You've got to, in your final chapter,
[02:14:34.220 --> 02:14:35.340]  A New Way of Thinking,
[02:14:35.340 --> 02:14:37.900]  you have what you call a sensible solution.
[02:14:38.860 --> 02:14:40.700]  What does that really involve?
[02:14:41.820 --> 02:14:43.820]  I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said.
[02:14:43.820 --> 02:14:44.660]  What's the last part?
[02:14:44.660 --> 02:14:46.660]  You have a sensible solution.
[02:14:46.660 --> 02:14:48.300]  What do you think a sensible solution
[02:14:48.300 --> 02:14:53.300]  to the kind of stress and chaos and anxiety
[02:14:53.420 --> 02:14:54.700]  that we have, manipulation that we have,
[02:14:54.700 --> 02:14:56.740]  what is the solution to that?
[02:14:56.740 --> 02:14:59.660]  Well, I think the Wikipedia is a good example of that.
[02:14:59.660 --> 02:15:02.340]  They have people from all walks of life,
[02:15:02.340 --> 02:15:04.140]  all levels of education,
[02:15:05.100 --> 02:15:08.100]  free to contribute to whatever topic
[02:15:08.100 --> 02:15:09.740]  they may want to do that.
[02:15:09.740 --> 02:15:10.820]  It may be health.
[02:15:10.820 --> 02:15:14.220]  I mentioned earlier about the effect of global warming
[02:15:14.220 --> 02:15:17.540]  on the making of cheese.
[02:15:17.540 --> 02:15:19.420]  There might be somebody who makes cheese
[02:15:19.420 --> 02:15:22.020]  that's gonna come up with some idea.
[02:15:22.020 --> 02:15:23.020]  We don't know that.
[02:15:23.020 --> 02:15:24.460]  We don't know that that may not be
[02:15:24.460 --> 02:15:26.940]  where comes some original idea
[02:15:26.940 --> 02:15:29.180]  on what to do about global warming.
[02:15:29.180 --> 02:15:30.940]  And you put it on what I'd like to think,
[02:15:31.020 --> 02:15:32.740]  and I hope it will be developed,
[02:15:32.740 --> 02:15:36.180]  a kind of Wikipedia where the ordinary person
[02:15:36.180 --> 02:15:39.580]  can feel free to put forth their ideas about it.
[02:15:39.580 --> 02:15:41.420]  Now, you say, well, we already have that.
[02:15:41.420 --> 02:15:42.780]  We have the internet.
[02:15:42.780 --> 02:15:43.780]  No, we don't.
[02:15:43.780 --> 02:15:46.580]  The internet is a commercial situation.
[02:15:46.580 --> 02:15:48.500]  It's all done for making money
[02:15:48.500 --> 02:15:50.380]  and grab attention and all that.
[02:15:50.380 --> 02:15:52.700]  And there's no criticism on it.
[02:15:52.700 --> 02:15:54.780]  There's no peer review, if you will.
[02:15:54.780 --> 02:15:57.100]  Whereas in the Wikipedia, I mean,
[02:15:57.100 --> 02:15:58.260]  people can write in and say,
[02:15:58.300 --> 02:16:01.540]  well, that particular contribution is bonkers
[02:16:01.540 --> 02:16:03.180]  and then give an example why it is,
[02:16:03.180 --> 02:16:04.820]  or that was a very good idea.
[02:16:04.820 --> 02:16:09.300]  And after that, you begin to get things coming together
[02:16:09.300 --> 02:16:11.900]  in unpredictable ways that may help us
[02:16:11.900 --> 02:16:14.260]  solve these eight problems.
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[02:17:52.940 --> 02:17:54.940]  Yeah, the problem is it seems like whenever you wind up
[02:17:54.940 --> 02:17:57.900]  having a forum or a place where things can be,
[02:17:57.900 --> 02:17:58.980]  and that's true of the internet,
[02:17:58.980 --> 02:18:00.700]  it's also true of Wikipedia,
[02:18:00.700 --> 02:18:03.060]  then it becomes you have gatekeepers who are there.
[02:18:03.060 --> 02:18:07.820]  And we saw this in spades throughout the COVID stuff
[02:18:07.820 --> 02:18:10.420]  that if somebody's got a different idea,
[02:18:10.420 --> 02:18:11.900]  rather than debate them,
[02:18:11.900 --> 02:18:15.340]  the impetus is to silence them
[02:18:15.340 --> 02:18:17.340]  by the people who are in authority.
[02:18:17.340 --> 02:18:20.500]  And so that really, I think, is the key thing.
[02:18:20.500 --> 02:18:22.420]  And I think as part of that,
[02:18:22.420 --> 02:18:27.420]  we see a continuing rise in disgust and deprivation
[02:18:30.500 --> 02:18:32.740]  of free speech.
[02:18:32.740 --> 02:18:36.020]  People are not interested in the principle of free speech.
[02:18:36.020 --> 02:18:37.540]  They don't wanna have open debate.
[02:18:37.540 --> 02:18:40.460]  And I see this regardless of where people are coming from
[02:18:40.460 --> 02:18:41.900]  on the political spectrum,
[02:18:41.900 --> 02:18:46.180]  there is a declining interest in debate
[02:18:46.180 --> 02:18:50.460]  and thinking, the debate is critical to critical thinking.
[02:18:50.460 --> 02:18:53.620]  And so the people who are in charge,
[02:18:53.620 --> 02:18:55.860]  the gatekeepers, whether it's Wikipedia or the internet
[02:18:55.860 --> 02:18:59.020]  or any other form of information,
[02:18:59.020 --> 02:19:00.700]  they are weighing in on that
[02:19:00.700 --> 02:19:04.540]  and they don't want things that they disagree with.
[02:19:04.540 --> 02:19:06.180]  And it might be because they've got an agenda
[02:19:06.180 --> 02:19:07.700]  or it might be because they've just got
[02:19:07.700 --> 02:19:10.260]  a particular prejudice about something.
[02:19:10.260 --> 02:19:12.140]  They want to make sure
[02:19:12.140 --> 02:19:15.140]  that the contrary views don't get out there.
[02:19:15.140 --> 02:19:18.380]  That, I think, is the real key that's there.
[02:19:18.380 --> 02:19:21.540]  And again, this is part of this atomization
[02:19:21.540 --> 02:19:23.580]  that we have of people,
[02:19:23.580 --> 02:19:24.940]  feeding that tribalism in a way
[02:19:24.940 --> 02:19:28.340]  that we've never seen it before, using technology.
[02:19:28.340 --> 02:19:31.220]  I would agree with everything you've just said, exactly.
[02:19:31.220 --> 02:19:34.820]  And I think we have to try to get beyond that,
[02:19:34.820 --> 02:19:37.820]  but we get back again to this business of people
[02:19:37.820 --> 02:19:42.260]  having their own personal financial point of view
[02:19:42.300 --> 02:19:45.340]  and position and pushing that,
[02:19:45.340 --> 02:19:47.940]  basically on the fact that they look upon it as.
[02:19:47.940 --> 02:19:51.020]  So maybe we're talking about a capitalism problem.
[02:19:51.900 --> 02:19:54.500]  We've got capitalism, that's what this country's all about.
[02:19:54.500 --> 02:19:56.580]  But I mean, it's in certain parts of it now.
[02:19:56.580 --> 02:19:59.220]  We've gotten to the point where people are unable
[02:19:59.220 --> 02:20:01.180]  to take another point of view
[02:20:01.180 --> 02:20:05.020]  if it's going to be financially harmful and hurtful to them.
[02:20:05.020 --> 02:20:05.860]  Yeah.
[02:20:05.860 --> 02:20:08.540]  I think that, you know,
[02:20:08.540 --> 02:20:10.540]  we started looking at the tech companies.
[02:20:10.540 --> 02:20:12.620]  I don't think that their capitalism would exist.
[02:20:12.620 --> 02:20:13.980]  I don't think they'd have billions of dollars
[02:20:13.980 --> 02:20:15.620]  if they weren't unified with the government.
[02:20:15.620 --> 02:20:18.940]  So there's a symbiosis there
[02:20:18.940 --> 02:20:23.700]  that the two of these entities feed off of each other.
[02:20:23.700 --> 02:20:27.940]  And I think that nexus right there is the difficult thing.
[02:20:27.940 --> 02:20:31.580]  And so I think, you know, when I think of capitalism,
[02:20:31.580 --> 02:20:33.860]  I don't like to refer to capitalism anymore
[02:20:33.860 --> 02:20:36.380]  because I think of it as a partnership,
[02:20:36.380 --> 02:20:38.260]  a public-private partnership,
[02:20:38.260 --> 02:20:40.740]  some kind of a economic fascism
[02:20:40.740 --> 02:20:42.020]  where they are working together.
[02:20:42.020 --> 02:20:44.700]  But I like to think of a free competitive market
[02:20:44.700 --> 02:20:46.980]  where the government doesn't have any role
[02:20:46.980 --> 02:20:48.860]  except as some kind of a referee
[02:20:48.860 --> 02:20:51.300]  between two parties that have a conflict or something.
[02:20:51.300 --> 02:20:54.740]  But yeah, that's the thing that's really driving this.
[02:20:54.740 --> 02:20:56.860]  You know, many people, when they talk about AI,
[02:20:56.860 --> 02:20:57.700]  they said, well, you know,
[02:20:57.700 --> 02:20:59.620]  here's a couple of different outcomes.
[02:20:59.620 --> 02:21:01.700]  Maybe this stuff really works the way it's supposed to work
[02:21:01.700 --> 02:21:03.020]  and it takes everybody's jobs
[02:21:03.020 --> 02:21:04.540]  and we wind up with a depression.
[02:21:04.540 --> 02:21:06.340]  Or maybe it doesn't work at all,
[02:21:06.340 --> 02:21:10.380]  in which case the big AI stock bubble that we've got burst
[02:21:10.380 --> 02:21:12.820]  and everybody loses their job because of that.
[02:21:12.820 --> 02:21:14.580]  And I said, well, there's a third alternative.
[02:21:14.580 --> 02:21:17.020]  And that is that the government keeps propping it up
[02:21:17.020 --> 02:21:21.420]  with public funds because it feeds their surveillance
[02:21:21.420 --> 02:21:24.700]  and manipulation needs,
[02:21:24.700 --> 02:21:28.060]  their ability to surveil and to control us.
[02:21:28.060 --> 02:21:29.620]  And I really think that that's
[02:21:29.620 --> 02:21:30.900]  where this is all going to head.
[02:21:30.900 --> 02:21:32.220]  I don't really, you know,
[02:21:32.220 --> 02:21:34.380]  those other two things may happen and they may be true,
[02:21:34.380 --> 02:21:37.900]  but I think there is a customer out there
[02:21:37.900 --> 02:21:40.180]  for the AI stuff that is driving all this stuff
[02:21:40.180 --> 02:21:41.980]  that has been putting out these proposals
[02:21:41.980 --> 02:21:42.820]  for the longest time.
[02:21:42.820 --> 02:21:45.100]  And that's governments, governments around the world.
[02:21:45.100 --> 02:21:46.940]  I mean, we look at the brain project
[02:21:46.940 --> 02:21:48.820]  that we had a few years ago.
[02:21:48.820 --> 02:21:50.260]  That was during the Obama administration,
[02:21:50.260 --> 02:21:53.260]  but things like the brain computer interface
[02:21:53.260 --> 02:21:56.060]  that Elon Musk and many other tech companies
[02:21:56.060 --> 02:21:58.700]  are doing out there, this Neuralink.
[02:21:58.700 --> 02:22:00.980]  And there's a lot of them that are doing that.
[02:22:00.980 --> 02:22:03.620]  That's being driven by the government
[02:22:03.660 --> 02:22:05.980]  wanting to connect into our minds,
[02:22:05.980 --> 02:22:07.620]  hack into our minds really.
[02:22:07.620 --> 02:22:09.180]  And they've been funding that kind of stuff.
[02:22:09.180 --> 02:22:11.100]  So how do we break that?
[02:22:11.100 --> 02:22:11.940]  Yeah.
[02:22:12.820 --> 02:22:15.300]  On the Musk side, he's doing it for money.
[02:22:15.300 --> 02:22:16.660]  I mean, obviously to make money.
[02:22:16.660 --> 02:22:17.500]  That's right.
[02:22:17.500 --> 02:22:20.020]  So that there's an unholy alliance, if you will,
[02:22:20.020 --> 02:22:23.780]  between someone who can't see anything other than the dollar
[02:22:23.780 --> 02:22:25.860]  and another side of the government can't see anything
[02:22:25.860 --> 02:22:28.340]  other than increasing power and surveillance
[02:22:28.340 --> 02:22:29.980]  over the population.
[02:22:29.980 --> 02:22:30.940]  Yeah, that's right.
[02:22:30.940 --> 02:22:32.140]  Absolutely true.
[02:22:32.140 --> 02:22:33.500]  Well, it's a fascinating book.
[02:22:34.340 --> 02:22:36.180]  It's a fascinating take on this.
[02:22:36.180 --> 02:22:39.980]  And of course, you've written many books on the brain,
[02:22:39.980 --> 02:22:41.700]  the memory one, very interesting.
[02:22:41.700 --> 02:22:46.340]  And you do have sections about memory in this book as well.
[02:22:46.340 --> 02:22:48.620]  And people will be able to find this on Amazon,
[02:22:48.620 --> 02:22:51.180]  I guess is the best place that they can find it,
[02:22:51.180 --> 02:22:53.180]  looking for the title of this.
[02:22:53.180 --> 02:22:58.180]  And it is something that I think we all need to think
[02:22:58.780 --> 02:23:02.700]  about how we're going to operate the effects
[02:23:02.980 --> 02:23:04.820]  that this technology is having on our brains
[02:23:04.820 --> 02:23:05.660]  in the 21st century.
[02:23:05.660 --> 02:23:07.300]  And that is the title of the book,
[02:23:07.300 --> 02:23:11.100]  The 21st Century Brain by Richard Restak.
[02:23:11.100 --> 02:23:12.860]  Thank you very much, Dr. Restak.
[02:23:12.860 --> 02:23:13.980]  Thank you.
[02:23:13.980 --> 02:23:14.820]  Appreciate you coming on.
[02:23:14.820 --> 02:23:16.300]  Good day, I enjoyed it very much.
[02:23:16.300 --> 02:23:17.140]  Thank you.
[02:23:17.140 --> 02:23:18.140]  Yeah, very interesting conversation.
[02:23:18.140 --> 02:23:19.340]  Thank you, have a good day.
[02:23:19.340 --> 02:23:20.740]  Folks, we're gonna take a quick break
[02:23:20.740 --> 02:23:23.300]  and we will be right back.
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[02:26:02.180 --> 02:26:11.900]  All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Wayne Morrow.
[02:26:11.900 --> 02:26:15.300]  He is the CEO of the John Birch Society.
[02:26:16.060 --> 02:26:22.900]  He's got something I think is very interesting to talk about, and that is Fabian Socialism.
[02:26:22.900 --> 02:26:27.700]  You probably heard this term before, but maybe you don't understand what it is or the difference
[02:26:27.700 --> 02:26:34.620]  between it and Karl Marx's approach, and how much more dangerous it is.
[02:26:34.620 --> 02:26:41.900]  For me growing up, Fabian was a teen idol, and I saw Fabian Socialism as like, what is
[02:26:41.900 --> 02:26:42.900]  that?
[02:26:43.500 --> 02:26:51.740]  Actually, he was a famous Roman general, and I guess Fabian's parents were Italian, and
[02:26:51.740 --> 02:26:56.580]  I guess maybe that was the namesake, or they might have been socialists, I don't know.
[02:26:56.580 --> 02:27:02.300]  But anyway, it is important to understand the distinction, because they have very different
[02:27:02.300 --> 02:27:06.820]  tactics that they use to achieve the same totalitarian goals.
[02:27:06.820 --> 02:27:10.420]  So joining us now is Wayne Morrow, CEO of the John Birch Society.
[02:27:10.420 --> 02:27:11.940]  Thank you for joining us, sir.
[02:27:11.980 --> 02:27:12.980]  Thank you, David.
[02:27:12.980 --> 02:27:19.180]  Appreciate being here, and yeah, Fabian's, much like the Council on Foreign Relations,
[02:27:19.180 --> 02:27:22.420]  very little known about people in their respective countries.
[02:27:22.420 --> 02:27:25.660]  It's sort of that secretive, behind-the-scenes group.
[02:27:25.660 --> 02:27:27.700]  That's part of the plan.
[02:27:27.700 --> 02:27:31.860]  And you mentioned, you told me just as we were talking here, just before you came on,
[02:27:31.860 --> 02:27:38.180]  there is also a book that the John Birch Society sells called the Fabian Freeway, a very in-depth
[02:27:38.180 --> 02:27:39.180]  book.
[02:27:39.420 --> 02:27:43.220]  Yeah, it's a book we've written past, and we republished it.
[02:27:43.220 --> 02:27:47.140]  We have our own publishing company called the Western Islands, and the Fabian Freeway
[02:27:47.140 --> 02:27:53.060]  is a book about the genesis of the Fabians, and how it impacted even our US policies and
[02:27:53.060 --> 02:27:54.060]  our foreign policies.
[02:27:54.060 --> 02:27:59.660]  It all ties together, but it's a real good book, and it's over about 600 pages, so it's
[02:27:59.660 --> 02:28:04.380]  not a quick read, but it's in-depth, and I think it's for people who are serious students
[02:28:04.380 --> 02:28:05.380]  about history.
[02:28:05.580 --> 02:28:10.620]  And what goes on today, surely, I call it, we're the top of the puzzle box, you know.
[02:28:10.620 --> 02:28:12.180]  Now we understand what goes on.
[02:28:12.180 --> 02:28:13.180]  That's right.
[02:28:13.180 --> 02:28:14.180]  That's right.
[02:28:14.180 --> 02:28:16.580]  But tell us a little bit about Fabian socialism.
[02:28:16.580 --> 02:28:22.580]  What was it about that general that they liked, and how does that tell us about their tactics,
[02:28:22.580 --> 02:28:24.340]  and how is it different from Marxism?
[02:28:24.340 --> 02:28:26.220]  Well, that's a good question.
[02:28:26.220 --> 02:28:32.860]  Well, anyway, the genesis, as you mentioned, Quintus Fabius Maximus, he was a Roman general,
[02:28:33.340 --> 02:28:41.220]  very slow-moving, he was very, you know, quiet, but he was slow and un-forceful, and much
[02:28:41.220 --> 02:28:46.620]  like the Fabians took his name, because that's the process they want, you know, their moniker
[02:28:46.620 --> 02:28:51.420]  originally was a wolf in sheep's clothing, and that didn't work over too well, figure
[02:28:51.420 --> 02:28:55.820]  that one out for a while, and they said, now we'll go switch to a turtle, right?
[02:28:55.820 --> 02:29:00.020]  I think the Republicans and Democrats could use that imagery as well, thanks to a donkey
[02:29:00.180 --> 02:29:04.020]  and an elephant, they could have a wolf in a sheep's clothing for both of them, yeah.
[02:29:04.020 --> 02:29:07.460]  They had to change their moniker because it wasn't going over well, but you know, if you
[02:29:07.460 --> 02:29:14.260]  go back to the genesis of it all, Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner were involved in forming this
[02:29:14.260 --> 02:29:20.980]  elite group, and George Bernard Shaw was certainly one of the members, and the web, Sidney Webb
[02:29:20.980 --> 02:29:28.620]  and all, and you know, they were very open about socialism, and you know, the dispute
[02:29:28.620 --> 02:29:34.020]  they had between Marx and themselves was they wanted to believe in the more of the
[02:29:34.020 --> 02:29:44.300]  ethical, slow-moving educational route versus violence, and so that was their goal.
[02:29:44.300 --> 02:29:49.900]  So you know, they formed, you know, the London School of Economics, and out of that school,
[02:29:49.900 --> 02:29:57.500]  you know, they put in place various key legislators in government and even in institutions around
[02:29:57.980 --> 02:30:04.940]  the UK, and they knew that by influencing public policy, it didn't make any difference
[02:30:04.940 --> 02:30:09.660]  who was the elected official, because they were setting the policy, they do that today, as a
[02:30:09.660 --> 02:30:16.540]  matter of fact, and so George Bernard Shaw was, he was also very large on eugenics, as a matter of
[02:30:16.540 --> 02:30:20.860]  fact, I don't have that video clip, but if you could listen to that audio clip, he talks about
[02:30:20.860 --> 02:30:25.820]  once every five years, listen to this one, we'd have to stand in front of this board to determine
[02:30:25.820 --> 02:30:30.220]  if we should be worthy of staying alive or not. He actually said that, you know,
[02:30:31.820 --> 02:30:38.140]  so he's gonna go imagine that. Just destroyed my appreciation of my fair lady, right? Can you
[02:30:38.140 --> 02:30:42.300]  imagine? You can listen to it, go believe me, you can look it up, you can listen to the video
[02:30:42.300 --> 02:30:49.260]  audio clip, it's amazing, and you know, and so every prime minister, every Labour Party member
[02:30:49.260 --> 02:30:59.660]  of the UK is a Fabian, and so the Fabian's goal is, is always has been, as we call it, socialism
[02:30:59.660 --> 02:31:06.060]  with a slow walk to Marxism, and what they wanted to do is govern every aspect of your life and
[02:31:06.060 --> 02:31:11.900]  force globalism, so as you see now today with Keir Starberg, who by the way is a Fabian, as well as
[02:31:11.900 --> 02:31:18.380]  the Mayor of London, you're watching it happen, the country being destroyed, and I have podcasts
[02:31:19.020 --> 02:31:26.860]  with folks in London, and I tell them this is all to queue, this is exactly what the plan is to
[02:31:26.860 --> 02:31:33.100]  destroy their heritage, their history, to bring in usher in world government. Now when you say,
[02:31:34.940 --> 02:31:40.860]  when you say they're Fabians, is there still an organization that they belong as an active member
[02:31:40.860 --> 02:31:45.340]  like somebody would belong to the John Birch Society, so they actually, so have the Fabian
[02:31:45.340 --> 02:31:49.180]  Society there, yeah, yes, yeah, Tony Blair is a member of the Fabians, you know,
[02:31:50.060 --> 02:31:55.500]  guard carry a member, he's very active with it by the way, you know, with the World Economic Forum,
[02:31:55.500 --> 02:31:59.740]  interesting, but if you go online you can look up the Fabian Society, they have organization
[02:31:59.740 --> 02:32:06.060]  Australia, they're young Fabians, you know, but they exist, I mean they exist today, and when I
[02:32:06.060 --> 02:32:12.860]  speak to the British, very few really understand the Fabians. Liz Truss, I met Liz Truss, the past
[02:32:12.860 --> 02:32:18.540]  prime minister, I was at a CEO conference, and I gave her my card, and I said I'll send you a copy
[02:32:18.540 --> 02:32:24.620]  of the Fabian freeway, now she's actively doing YouTube phenomenas, because I said you never
[02:32:24.620 --> 02:32:30.300]  mentioned the Fabians, Liz, but you know, I think she knew exactly what they were, but the whole
[02:32:30.300 --> 02:32:39.820]  thing was, David, back in Woodrow Wilson's days, when he actually worked with Colonel Mandel House,
[02:32:39.820 --> 02:32:44.940]  another globalist, they formed this thing called the Inquiry, and the Inquiry was a group of men,
[02:32:44.940 --> 02:32:51.340]  we're British and US, and they disguise how are we going to work together, and kind of really
[02:32:51.340 --> 02:32:57.740]  conquer the world as far as the political agenda, and then eventually total, and so that was the
[02:32:57.740 --> 02:33:02.540]  genesis of the Council on Foreign Relations, so the Council on Foreign Relations, which is
[02:33:02.540 --> 02:33:09.980]  house in New York City, they and the Fabians work together as we speak today, and setting
[02:33:09.980 --> 02:33:14.380]  governance and policy, and they do that, regardless what the elections look like,
[02:33:15.020 --> 02:33:20.220]  they're behind the scenes doing foreign policy, and that's why we always look at each other,
[02:33:20.220 --> 02:33:26.300]  why doesn't everything change? Well, that's because behind the scenes, the same folks have been
[02:33:26.300 --> 02:33:31.420]  working the agenda, that's what's going on, and we have to bring the light to the UK people,
[02:33:31.420 --> 02:33:37.820]  as well as the United States, that this group, these groups are hard at work directing our
[02:33:37.820 --> 02:33:43.180]  foreign policy, but our future, it is for world government, it's nothing to do with freedom,
[02:33:43.180 --> 02:33:49.020]  and our job at the Bird Society is through education, to make people aware of who they are,
[02:33:49.020 --> 02:33:54.220]  so we know what to do, it's not mystical, it's not magical, it's not a beauty contest when you elect
[02:33:54.220 --> 02:34:00.380]  somebody, but we have to know the threats are real, and we see it today. Yes, it sounds very
[02:34:00.380 --> 02:34:05.980]  much like Antonio Gramsci, the father of the Italian Communist Party's strategy, where he
[02:34:05.980 --> 02:34:11.980]  wanted to march through the institutions, how is it different than Gramsci's communism? Because,
[02:34:11.980 --> 02:34:18.540]  and I mentioned Antonio Gramsci because Pete Buttigieg is what I call him, because he's very
[02:34:18.540 --> 02:34:23.980]  proud of that, but you know, his father spent his entire career at Notre Dame, that was really his
[02:34:23.980 --> 02:34:32.700]  specialty, Antonio Gramsci, and he had him go to Harvard, where he studied under Sokvan Berkovich,
[02:34:33.340 --> 02:34:40.940]  who was also very much a fan of Italian communism, he changed his name to honor Soko and Vanzetti,
[02:34:40.940 --> 02:34:48.460]  and so, you know, that, I've learned something about Antonio Gramsci because of Buttigieg,
[02:34:48.460 --> 02:34:51.900]  but I also called him Booty Marks, because that's really where they're trying to take us,
[02:34:51.900 --> 02:34:57.500]  but again, it is a slow march through the institutions, and so, what is the difference,
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[02:36:35.660 --> 02:36:39.660]  That one of them was Italian, and the other one was predominantly English and American, kind of
[02:36:39.660 --> 02:36:47.900]  Anglo. Yeah, well, Gramsci was involved as an Italian. He's from Sardinia, and he was grew up
[02:36:47.900 --> 02:36:53.420]  in that area of farm. He watched the farmer owners take advantage of the farmer workers.
[02:36:53.420 --> 02:36:59.340]  He actually has a book called, David, called the Gramsci papers, prison papers, and that's about
[02:36:59.340 --> 02:37:03.580]  this thing I have behind me in my library, and it was written on toilet paper, by the way,
[02:37:04.220 --> 02:37:12.540]  and he passed it to his sister, and it became the Gramsci paper, the prison papers, and
[02:37:12.540 --> 02:37:18.140]  Gramsci was, you know, a threat to, you know, the Nazis in Germany, and that's why it was
[02:37:18.140 --> 02:37:22.140]  called the Frankfurt School, and Hitler tossed them out of the United States. They end up in
[02:37:22.140 --> 02:37:32.380]  Clubby University, and so the goal then was then to indoctrinate and reduce the morality of young
[02:37:32.380 --> 02:37:36.860]  college students and shove down their throats socialism and communism, so now we have the
[02:37:36.860 --> 02:37:44.300]  professors from various institutions in the country, about, remember that, then the 60s,
[02:37:44.300 --> 02:37:47.740]  about the hippie movement, all that was all coming from the Frankfurt School through
[02:37:47.740 --> 02:37:52.540]  Columbia University, destroying, they knew they had, this is what Gramsci said, David,
[02:37:52.540 --> 02:37:59.740]  I can't, we can't destroy the United States or Western society as we talk to it economically.
[02:37:59.740 --> 02:38:04.780]  That's hard. We have to change them morally, because if we could do that,
[02:38:04.780 --> 02:38:08.300]  we could destroy the morality, because that's the glue that holds them together,
[02:38:08.300 --> 02:38:13.580]  then we can destroy them, and that's what, that's the whole story with the Frankfurt School,
[02:38:13.580 --> 02:38:17.900]  which ended up at Clubby University. If you think about it, where we are back in the 40s,
[02:38:17.900 --> 02:38:21.500]  to where today you can see the morality of the United States going the other direction,
[02:38:21.500 --> 02:38:25.900]  and that's all according to plan, and that's why they got so heavily involved in Hollywood,
[02:38:25.900 --> 02:38:29.820]  the entertainment business as well. Absolutely correct, and that's what happened,
[02:38:29.820 --> 02:38:35.980]  so they knew that's exactly one of the key points that makes the United States and Western
[02:38:35.980 --> 02:38:41.660]  civilization so strong is our moral behavior and our beliefs, so that's what we see today,
[02:38:41.660 --> 02:38:46.620]  but that's the difference between the two, and so they're Marxists, but they use that social
[02:38:46.620 --> 02:38:51.900]  element, they said Karl Marx wasn't right, he thought economics was the only way, no, we're
[02:38:51.900 --> 02:38:55.740]  going to have to do the moral end of it, so that's, they morphed it into another strategy,
[02:38:55.740 --> 02:39:01.180]  but it's all the same man, goal is still slavery. And you can see that very much in what Sackman
[02:39:01.180 --> 02:39:10.300]  Berkovich focused on there at Harvard, everything for him was a product of Puritanism, and so we've
[02:39:10.300 --> 02:39:15.260]  got to overthrow this whole, the Puritan roots of America, and we've got to attack it at its
[02:39:15.260 --> 02:39:20.460]  foundation, but he was really, what he was trying to do was to attack the moral foundation of the
[02:39:20.460 --> 02:39:26.220]  country, that's why he focused on that so much, but everything he talked about was in terms of
[02:39:26.220 --> 02:39:31.900]  that, you know, well this is because of the Mayflower, and we've got to get rid of that,
[02:39:31.900 --> 02:39:37.580]  but it is kind of interesting, and of course we see other approaches as well, you had people like
[02:39:41.580 --> 02:39:47.340]  Bill Ayres, okay, they decided that they would, they said well we've had class struggles over,
[02:39:48.220 --> 02:39:52.700]  you know, for Marxism in Europe, that's not going to work here, it's not working here that well,
[02:39:52.700 --> 02:39:58.300]  so let's go to a race struggle, so there's yet another approach that the Communists have taken,
[02:39:58.300 --> 02:40:03.580]  they've got so many different prongs to get all of them take us to the same hell, don't they?
[02:40:06.620 --> 02:40:12.620]  Yeah, we do the dirty work for them, we have, you know, class struggles, men against women,
[02:40:12.620 --> 02:40:17.740]  that's another big one right now, children against their parents, black versus white,
[02:40:17.740 --> 02:40:26.300]  or tan, it's all about conflict and war, that's their goal, because they need that to enforce
[02:40:26.300 --> 02:40:31.500]  more rules and regulations of the government, and less freedom, you guys can't play nice, okay,
[02:40:31.500 --> 02:40:37.820]  well we're going to incite that, and you know, Marxists knew that's one of the goals, and it's
[02:40:37.820 --> 02:40:43.180]  written over a period of time, lots of documentation on how that works, but that's the
[02:40:43.180 --> 02:40:50.860]  goal, so they're playing to our frailties of humans, you know, rich versus poor, black versus
[02:40:50.860 --> 02:40:57.820]  white, tan versus white, Chinese, whatever, doesn't make a difference, because their end game is world
[02:40:57.820 --> 02:41:03.020]  government, and they know that they can't have a lot of us, so we have to, we have to exterminate
[02:41:03.020 --> 02:41:09.020]  some, so let those guys exterminate themselves, and that's what we see, you know, and we're seeing
[02:41:09.020 --> 02:41:14.380]  that now in the UK, as we start our conversation about the Fabians, as I talk to the folks in the
[02:41:14.380 --> 02:41:20.460]  UK, we're watching their country, and I used to live there, work there, in Oxfordshire, so I know
[02:41:20.460 --> 02:41:28.060]  the country rather well, and I'm watching those folks being destroyed by the invaders on purpose,
[02:41:28.060 --> 02:41:34.220]  but they're doing their dirty work, destroying all their history, and inflict terror and terror
[02:41:34.220 --> 02:41:41.340]  into those folks in Ireland, as well as the UK, and they're concerned, but I'm seeing a resurgence
[02:41:41.340 --> 02:41:48.300]  of the British citizen rising up, it was about a month ago, you recall in London, they had
[02:41:49.340 --> 02:41:55.740]  people marching with the British flag, it wasn't 200,000, David, we had people that were there,
[02:41:55.740 --> 02:42:00.780]  and they said it was more like 3 million people were there, you'll see farmer trucks now marching
[02:42:00.780 --> 02:42:06.860]  into London with their tractors, they don't want to be slaves, and I've talked to enough Europeans,
[02:42:07.500 --> 02:42:12.140]  they don't want to be a part of the European EC any longer, they're losing their sovereignty,
[02:42:12.140 --> 02:42:17.340]  they love their history, David, and they really respect, and when I travel throughout Europe,
[02:42:17.340 --> 02:42:23.660]  when I live there, they really love their history, and they love their heritage, it's being destroyed
[02:42:23.660 --> 02:42:29.740]  systematically, and it does not work. One thing I wanted to tell you, which is interesting, I found
[02:42:29.740 --> 02:42:36.380]  out talking to several of the folks within, you know, past legislators, they tell me, they get
[02:42:36.380 --> 02:42:44.380]  their news about the United States in two ways, CNN and the New York Times. What does that tell you, David?
[02:42:44.380 --> 02:42:54.700]  Yeah, you're going to see CNN. I go, what is that doing? I'm in Hungary, or I'm in
[02:42:54.700 --> 02:43:00.860]  Italy, I'm watching CNN, but that's how they look at the United States. I said, well, that's totally
[02:43:00.860 --> 02:43:07.500]  upside down, you know? Yeah, well, I had a friend who worked in the Pentagon about 20, 30 years ago,
[02:43:07.500 --> 02:43:12.140]  and when I talked to him, he said, yeah, CNN is playing on the screen all over the Pentagon,
[02:43:12.140 --> 02:43:16.700]  all the different rooms and everything, you know? Oh, yeah? That's a- Communist News Network.
[02:43:16.700 --> 02:43:22.620]  That's right. It's very important that who you listen to, you know, and I've always tried to
[02:43:22.620 --> 02:43:30.540]  listen to various sources, and I would go to the- I always preferred people who would tell me
[02:43:31.340 --> 02:43:36.620]  what they think and why they think it, rather than the people who try to be this mushy middle, like
[02:43:36.620 --> 02:43:41.660]  Time and Newsweek, you know? So I was always looking at The Nation or National Review or
[02:43:41.660 --> 02:43:47.020]  something like that. Even though I don't support their views, I'd like to see that conflict that
[02:43:47.020 --> 02:43:51.980]  was there, because a lot of times that would help me to understand where I stood on the issue. So I
[02:43:51.980 --> 02:43:56.460]  try to get these people that are opposed to each other, but most people just go for something like
[02:43:56.460 --> 02:44:02.860]  Time or Newsweek or CNN, and it's kind of the mushy middle that's put out there by the Mockingbird
[02:44:03.500 --> 02:44:07.500]  programs that are out there for people. But that's why it's very important for people to educate
[02:44:07.500 --> 02:44:11.660]  themselves, and that's a very important thing that you do at the John Birch Society. Tell us
[02:44:11.660 --> 02:44:15.660]  a little bit about the John Birch Society and how it's organized at local level.
[02:44:15.660 --> 02:44:21.580]  Yes, thank you. We started in 1958, and our goal is education. You know, education is really critical
[02:44:21.580 --> 02:44:27.500]  for us, educating people about American values. Our job is limited government. You know, so people
[02:44:27.500 --> 02:44:32.140]  call us far right. That's not true. We're actually constitutional moderates. Some form of government,
[02:44:32.220 --> 02:44:38.460]  not total. All the left is all the isms. Glee, fascism, right? And our job is to teach American
[02:44:38.460 --> 02:44:44.380]  Americanism. It's not taught anymore. So we have free courses online, the JBS.org, about teaching
[02:44:44.380 --> 02:44:49.420]  about the Constitution. And we said, how do you elect constitutional minor representative, state,
[02:44:49.420 --> 02:44:55.900]  local, or federal, if you don't know the playbook? So how do you hold them accountable? And it's not
[02:44:55.900 --> 02:45:01.020]  taught on purpose. So now it becomes a personality contest. We don't want that. So we teach people
[02:45:01.100 --> 02:45:04.940]  Americanism, and we give them the history, and we show them who's behind the curtain,
[02:45:04.940 --> 02:45:10.700]  like we mentioned the Fabians and the CFR and who's forming foreign policy. And once people know
[02:45:10.700 --> 02:45:14.940]  what goes on, that's important. We call it a conspiracy. It's not theory any longer,
[02:45:14.940 --> 02:45:21.100]  but the conspiracy says this. The first goal is to deny its existence, of course. So we said,
[02:45:21.100 --> 02:45:25.500]  look, let's expose them. It's not us. That's why I have a thousand books behind me, is that over the
[02:45:25.500 --> 02:45:31.020]  course of time, it proves that they does exist, and they actually come out and talk about it.
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[02:47:08.700 --> 02:47:15.340]  It's interesting as we look through time and look through history,
[02:47:15.340 --> 02:47:21.260]  I always go back to my UK experience where Otis Huxley was a Fabian. I'll go back to that for a
[02:47:21.260 --> 02:47:26.220]  second to answer your question. And what happened is he was writing, this guy was a young author,
[02:47:26.220 --> 02:47:31.980]  writing all the information about what he heard. He was so excited about it that he decided to write
[02:47:31.980 --> 02:47:38.140]  a book. And he said, I can't use my pen name. My name is Eric Blair. I can't use that. I have to
[02:47:38.140 --> 02:47:45.180]  use a pen name. So I'll think my name is George. George Orwell is really the Eric Blair. And he
[02:47:45.180 --> 02:47:51.740]  wrote 1984 about the Fabians. And the question becomes, why is it 1984? Well, January 4th of
[02:47:51.740 --> 02:47:58.140]  1884 is the foundation of the Fabians. And he said, within 100 years, we have a world government.
[02:47:58.140 --> 02:48:04.220]  That's why that book's titled 1984. Oh, interesting. I'd heard people say,
[02:48:04.220 --> 02:48:10.220]  because he wrote it in 1948, but yeah, that's the 100th anniversary. Yeah. I don't believe it,
[02:48:10.220 --> 02:48:16.220]  because he was indoctrinated by H.G. Wells and Otis Huxley about when he writes about Big Brother,
[02:48:16.220 --> 02:48:22.780]  Newspeak, that's all about the Fabians. And now that's in vogue, I'm saying, hey, look, that wasn't
[02:48:22.780 --> 02:48:29.580]  done as a science fiction. That was really his telling you. And he couldn't hold himself. He
[02:48:29.580 --> 02:48:35.260]  said, I have to really talk about this. That's why I personally believe that's why it's 1984.
[02:48:35.260 --> 02:48:40.300]  It's 100 years of existence. And of course, I mentioned the Council on Formulations is a
[02:48:40.300 --> 02:48:46.300]  child of the Fabians. And now we have an American version and we have the European version working
[02:48:46.300 --> 02:48:52.460]  in unison. So our job at the Birch Society is educate people what's going on to be personally
[02:48:52.460 --> 02:48:57.820]  responsible to elect constitutional moderates and constitutional minded representatives,
[02:48:57.820 --> 02:49:05.260]  state, local and federal, so we can monitor not only our behavior, but go back to constitutional
[02:49:05.260 --> 02:49:12.060]  based law and not rule by elitists. And that's what we see today. Yeah. And so, you know,
[02:49:12.060 --> 02:49:18.060]  and it's important for people to understand how many different ways they come at us in order to
[02:49:18.060 --> 02:49:23.580]  set up a totalitarian government. They have so many different tactics and strategies. And of course,
[02:49:23.580 --> 02:49:26.540]  one of those, I think that you're talking about Aldous Huxley and others like that,
[02:49:27.180 --> 02:49:31.740]  H.G. Wells and Huxley, the technocracy that was there. I mean, talk a little bit about
[02:49:31.740 --> 02:49:36.380]  technocracy as well. That's really kind of coming to us. People don't really know where to fit that,
[02:49:36.380 --> 02:49:40.940]  you know, because it doesn't really fit into the left right paradigm. And yet that seems
[02:49:40.940 --> 02:49:45.340]  to be on the ascendancy as well. Talk a little bit about that. Well, you know, the story about
[02:49:45.340 --> 02:49:52.860]  technology, you know, but X used to be a member of the Birch Society. He said, smile a lot because
[02:49:52.860 --> 02:49:58.860]  your picture gets taken about 300 times a day. That's right. More than that now, I guess. Yeah,
[02:49:58.860 --> 02:50:08.060]  you go bang, grocery store, go get gas. But technocracy is a tool for monitoring and governance.
[02:50:08.060 --> 02:50:14.060]  And that's why you see AI data centers and all every little thing that you've done. And they
[02:50:14.060 --> 02:50:17.660]  openly said this in the Bank of International Settlements. They want to have this digital
[02:50:17.660 --> 02:50:24.380]  currency where they can monitor every, any of your expenditures from a hundred dollars on up.
[02:50:24.380 --> 02:50:28.700]  So they could determine by checking China, if you have a bad social score, then you're not going to
[02:50:28.700 --> 02:50:34.220]  buy anything. So if you think about technology is going to be their weapon or tool to keep you in
[02:50:34.220 --> 02:50:38.940]  line. That's where I see it happening. And they're doing it through a lot of different angles. It
[02:50:38.940 --> 02:50:43.580]  looks kind of cool, but that's really the goal. One of the things I began the program with today
[02:50:43.580 --> 02:50:48.940]  was talking about the fact that, you know, I mentioned all the time about how artificial
[02:50:48.940 --> 02:50:54.860]  intelligence is really going to be a superpower for any kind of government tyranny to be able to
[02:50:54.860 --> 02:50:59.500]  monitor you and everything that you're doing as you're just talking about, but also to manipulate
[02:50:59.500 --> 02:51:05.500]  opinion as well. And that's why it's very concerning to me to see that this latest
[02:51:05.500 --> 02:51:12.700]  executive order from Trump that essentially presumes to prohibit any state laws that would
[02:51:12.700 --> 02:51:18.380]  curb things that are happening with AI companies. Because I think where that would really happen
[02:51:18.380 --> 02:51:21.740]  would be with the data centers. I think it's where the big conflict is going to come.
[02:51:22.620 --> 02:51:23.180]  Very true.
[02:51:23.180 --> 02:51:27.260]  And, you know, that is the bottleneck for them. And that would be one of the ways that you could
[02:51:27.260 --> 02:51:32.380]  limit them to buy a little bit of time to try to get some control of the situation or structure
[02:51:32.380 --> 02:51:40.380]  to keep some of these things at bay. But again, to prohibit that at the federal level. And that is
[02:51:41.020 --> 02:51:45.100]  in direct conflict with the 10th Amendment. And of course, the Democrats will tell you that now
[02:51:45.100 --> 02:51:48.700]  because they're not in Bauer. But as soon as they get in Bauer, they don't care about the 10th
[02:51:48.700 --> 02:51:57.980]  Amendment either. But it is really a real concern about this concentration of power and the, you
[02:51:57.980 --> 02:52:02.380]  know, the destruction of the 10th Amendment. And of course, the enforcement mechanism that
[02:52:02.380 --> 02:52:07.900]  it's going to run through is going to be to use financial carrots and sticks for people
[02:52:08.540 --> 02:52:11.420]  coming out of the federal government. That's the way they always get around the 10th Amendment,
[02:52:11.420 --> 02:52:16.460]  isn't it? Absolutely correct. Yes, the technocracy. That's exactly what we call
[02:52:16.460 --> 02:52:22.300]  technocracy. The techno bureaucrats. That's where they use that technology, as I call it,
[02:52:22.300 --> 02:52:26.620]  digital prison. That's basically where you're looking at. And that's kind of where we're at.
[02:52:26.620 --> 02:52:31.020]  And that's what they're setting up, digital prison. So you can't go anywhere to do anything
[02:52:31.020 --> 02:52:34.940]  within your 15-minute city, whatever you want to be, to monitor where you are.
[02:52:35.660 --> 02:52:38.620]  So you lose all your freedoms. They're constantly coming up with different
[02:52:38.620 --> 02:52:43.980]  justifications to take us to the same kind of Orwellian hell that they want to set up.
[02:52:43.980 --> 02:52:47.900]  And that's why, you know, when you look at the Chinese communists, many times I'd look at them
[02:52:47.900 --> 02:52:52.060]  and say, okay, so are they really communist anymore or are they fascist? Because they've
[02:52:52.060 --> 02:52:57.260]  kind of merged economics and politics to a great extent there. And it's highly nationalistic and
[02:52:57.260 --> 02:53:01.340]  all the rest of these other things. So it's important to understand all these different strains,
[02:53:01.340 --> 02:53:05.900]  but then to not get boxed in by any of them. To understand these people mix and match.
[02:53:05.900 --> 02:53:10.700]  They'll take whatever they can use, make these different strategies. And, you know, when you
[02:53:10.700 --> 02:53:14.220]  look at them, if you were to construct a Venn diagram, it seems like they're all starting
[02:53:14.220 --> 02:53:17.900]  to reach convergence instead of one little point of overlap, doesn't it?
[02:53:18.620 --> 02:53:23.500]  Yeah, exactly. Well, you know, communism is just a tool. That's all it is, a tool for global
[02:53:23.500 --> 02:53:28.780]  governance. It's not the be all end all. Just like any other religious things that we see,
[02:53:28.940 --> 02:53:32.780]  it's got nothing to do with it at all. Matter of fact, the men who are globalists are not
[02:53:32.780 --> 02:53:37.260]  communists. They're not. That's a tool. They're not fascist, but they use that mentality. But
[02:53:37.260 --> 02:53:41.500]  it's all the tool for world government. It's all going to come through the United Nations. And you
[02:53:41.500 --> 02:53:48.460]  see the UN. That's the center point of it all. And we have a magazine called The New American.
[02:53:48.460 --> 02:53:54.700]  And matter of fact, we're actually launching it in Eric called the New European. And I can show you
[02:53:54.700 --> 02:54:01.260]  this. Oh, good. Yeah. Matt here, David, these little bubble diagrams, if you can see this all,
[02:54:01.260 --> 02:54:06.140]  these are all the UN offices in the world. They're not just one location in, you know,
[02:54:06.140 --> 02:54:10.780]  these river in Brussels. What are these people doing all these locations? Well, you're on the
[02:54:10.780 --> 02:54:17.260]  menu. That's what's going on. Imagine all those, you know, it's all over the United States. So
[02:54:17.260 --> 02:54:20.540]  I'd be happy to send this to you in a new American magazine. We have this one called
[02:54:21.260 --> 02:54:27.740]  The Global Power Grab. We did this one and it talks and I show this around the Australians and
[02:54:27.740 --> 02:54:33.980]  the New Zealand's and UK folks and the lady in France. They were totally amazed the depth of
[02:54:33.980 --> 02:54:39.340]  the United Nation, all these offices all over the world. Yes. And they're busy carving up
[02:54:39.980 --> 02:54:44.700]  the world for global governance. So that's, that's where our part of our job at the Birch
[02:54:44.700 --> 02:54:50.300]  site exposed what's happening through education and making the way is it's not too late
[02:54:50.300 --> 02:54:54.700]  because there's more of us than them. And they know that our job, their job is to keep us off
[02:54:54.700 --> 02:55:01.500]  message and looking at sports figures or Hollywood or this or that the same time they're destroying
[02:55:02.380 --> 02:55:06.380]  our foundational principles of freedom. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I've had Alex Newman on
[02:55:06.380 --> 02:55:12.700]  many times. I've talked to Alex and a great guy there at the New American and I've had other
[02:55:12.700 --> 02:55:17.340]  people as well from the New American. It's great publication. And as you point out with that map
[02:55:17.340 --> 02:55:22.540]  and you see all the different areas where they have areas of responsibility and actual physical
[02:55:22.540 --> 02:55:26.860]  locations and everything, I think that's a key thing for people to understand is that it's not
[02:55:26.860 --> 02:55:30.380]  necessarily going to be as you point out in Brussels when you say, well, there's the seat
[02:55:30.380 --> 02:55:36.140]  of government or whatever, or the East River in New York. It really is not so much about that.
[02:55:36.140 --> 02:55:41.740]  It's about global governance. It's about this network of different organizations that are out
[02:55:41.740 --> 02:55:47.900]  there. And that's one of the things that I see about technocracy is really that not just the
[02:55:47.900 --> 02:55:52.620]  electronic network networking that's out there, but actually the political networking that is there
[02:55:52.620 --> 02:55:57.820]  and the interlocking of these different financial interests that are out there. So they can all have
[02:55:57.820 --> 02:56:05.340]  their own goals and things, but it is all pushing us towards this global governance. And the
[02:56:05.340 --> 02:56:10.700]  technology is really giving them power that they've never had before. That's the key thing that's
[02:56:10.700 --> 02:56:16.940]  really concerning me. So we saw that with COVID-19 was a good data set beta test for them.
[02:56:16.940 --> 02:56:21.100]  I had the whole world under control. I'm sure they were absolutely laughing and amazed how
[02:56:21.100 --> 02:56:26.140]  easy it was to make that happen. I know. I was absolutely astounded how easy it was for them as
[02:56:26.140 --> 02:56:31.260]  well. And again, I think, you know, you look at the stimulus checks and all the rest of this stuff,
[02:56:31.260 --> 02:56:37.020]  that was training wheels for universal basic income, which was something that Elon Musk has
[02:56:37.020 --> 02:56:42.300]  always been focused on. When you had Andrew Yang come out, said he was going to run for president,
[02:56:42.300 --> 02:56:46.540]  and that was going to be his issue, the main issue. He branched out and some other things later on.
[02:56:46.540 --> 02:56:51.100]  But as soon as he came out and said universal basic income, Elon Musk candid him a million dollars.
[02:56:51.100 --> 02:56:55.500]  You know, he wanted him to push that idea. Well, it got pushed really big in 2020.
[02:56:57.660 --> 02:57:03.420]  Well, that's all part of the program, universal income through the UN. Of course it is. The whole
[02:57:03.420 --> 02:57:08.460]  job they want you to be industrious. They want you to be collective, not individualists.
[02:57:08.460 --> 02:57:13.100]  And we fight collectivism. We believe in individualism, not collectivism. That's all
[02:57:13.100 --> 02:57:19.420]  part of the rule. You know, there's a call to herd mentality and that's exactly what they need
[02:57:19.420 --> 02:57:24.300]  to control us. It's all that's the end game is that world government and they will determine,
[02:57:24.300 --> 02:57:29.740]  as I mentioned early on, we started the show, George Bernard Shaw before the eugenics committee,
[02:57:29.740 --> 02:57:35.180]  who lives and who dies. And you may not have that choice. If you're a strong crowd Christian
[02:57:35.180 --> 02:57:39.340]  or belief, you may not fit into it because they're amoral. They don't have any beliefs.
[02:57:39.340 --> 02:57:43.420]  The state is their belief. You may not fit into their program. If you can't be indoctrinated
[02:57:43.420 --> 02:57:49.020]  correctly, you may be exterminated. That's right. That's written about that. So it's these guys
[02:57:49.020 --> 02:57:56.060]  play for keeps and it's serious. And our job has been to expose their plan since the late fifties
[02:57:56.060 --> 02:58:00.940]  and really what they want to do. And they're very open about it. Not more so than ever because they
[02:58:00.940 --> 02:58:07.980]  feel like young adults have been so indoctrinated through the universities and school that socialism
[02:58:07.980 --> 02:58:13.500]  is good. Like we saw the last mayor race in New York City. Can you imagine? Yeah. Yeah.
[02:58:13.500 --> 02:58:18.140]  Nothing's free. You know, schools have indoctrinated that. But then we also have the situation where
[02:58:18.940 --> 02:58:23.340]  the, you know, the Gen Z people are finding it very, the kids are finding it very difficult
[02:58:23.340 --> 02:58:27.020]  to find a job. Even if they go to college, they're finding it difficult to find a job.
[02:58:27.580 --> 02:58:30.940]  And that is something I think that really drives this because again,
[02:58:31.820 --> 02:58:35.580]  one of the things that socialism has always pushed out there, I think, is envy. You know,
[02:58:35.580 --> 02:58:42.220]  they find these different at its core, I think, like Saul Alinsky, you know, dedicated his book
[02:58:42.220 --> 02:58:47.100]  rules for radicals to Satan. And I think at the core of it, there's all these different satanic
[02:58:47.100 --> 02:58:53.260]  appeals to the evil aspects of our nature, you know, whether it's about greed, whether it's
[02:58:53.260 --> 02:58:59.580]  about envy, whether it's about hatred, racism, tribalism, all these different things. And they
[02:58:59.580 --> 02:59:04.220]  identify these things and seek to exploit them with these different approaches that they take,
[02:59:04.780 --> 02:59:10.540]  you know. And so that's what I think is you have to be aware of the tactics and the strategies
[02:59:10.540 --> 02:59:13.980]  that are there if we're ever going to be able to defeat them. Otherwise, we're just putting in
[02:59:13.980 --> 02:59:18.620]  their hands, aren't we? That's exactly and you're exactly correct. That's exactly what they do. They
[02:59:18.620 --> 02:59:24.700]  pit one group against another one philosophy because it's all about conflict. It's all about
[02:59:24.700 --> 02:59:29.820]  the conflict. That's critically important, but we have to identify what it is and expose what it is.
[02:59:29.820 --> 02:59:34.060]  That's really important. So we know the game. It's a charades. You remember, they remember the,
[02:59:35.020 --> 02:59:40.540]  the movie where we had with Julie Garland follow the yellow pick road, you know, and all of a
[02:59:40.540 --> 02:59:45.100]  sudden, who's the man behind the curtain? Don't pay attention to him. Well, we expose who's behind
[02:59:45.100 --> 02:59:50.460]  the curtain, you know, and that's really what it's all about. It's really a plan. It's not done by
[02:59:50.460 --> 02:59:57.580]  accident. And we see a lot of Kubuki theater, but the thing is, is that we identify really what it
[02:59:57.580 --> 03:00:03.020]  is. And to tell you what, it's very difficult for people to believe it because some of their
[03:00:03.020 --> 03:00:08.060]  heroes of the past were not good people. And I'm sorry, folks. Or the heroes of the present.
[03:00:08.700 --> 03:00:12.540]  Or the president. I mentioned about George Bernard Shaw. The guy was, you know,
[03:00:12.540 --> 03:00:16.220]  thinking about that one. Well, I mean, I can go on, but there's a lot of them
[03:00:16.220 --> 03:00:21.180]  and they were not who they thought they were. I mean, yeah, he wrote Pygmalion, which was then
[03:00:21.180 --> 03:00:25.980]  turned into My Fair Lady, you know, the musical and the play and, you know, enjoy the music with
[03:00:25.980 --> 03:00:31.420]  that. But yeah, the guy who was there. And even when you look at all these different science fiction
[03:00:31.420 --> 03:00:35.420]  novels, they've basically become a blueprint for them. But when you're talking about how they like
[03:00:35.420 --> 03:00:39.740]  to set up conflict between different groups, that's why I think we really need to have our
[03:00:39.740 --> 03:00:45.660]  guard up about partisan politics, because that is another way they do it. They don't just do it by
[03:00:45.660 --> 03:00:52.540]  race or by sex or this or that. They do it also with political factions. And, you know, when people
[03:00:52.540 --> 03:00:57.100]  buy into these things and start to excuse the actions of their leaders, what they really need
[03:00:57.100 --> 03:01:02.620]  to do is to look at the longer historical view and say, where were the Fabian socialists trying
[03:01:02.620 --> 03:01:06.220]  to take us? You know, where were the Gramsci socialists trying to take us? Where were the
[03:01:06.220 --> 03:01:13.820]  Marxists trying to take us? And if the actions of the person that's the hero of your party
[03:01:13.820 --> 03:01:20.460]  is going to move us in the direction of these socialists and Marxists, they need to pull back
[03:01:21.020 --> 03:01:25.660]  and say, we're not going to follow that, even though that's part of our tribe here or whatever.
[03:01:25.660 --> 03:01:27.580]  I think that's a very important thing, you know.
[03:01:28.060 --> 03:01:33.740]  Elections change government, but institutions change nations. That's really important. They
[03:01:33.740 --> 03:01:38.780]  actually, Fabian's even said that. They also said power shifts from representation to management,
[03:01:38.780 --> 03:01:43.340]  and that's where we are. No matter, you know, it's left or right, you know, on the politics scene,
[03:01:43.980 --> 03:01:49.020]  the policy being set forward doesn't make a difference who runs back and forth. It's all
[03:01:49.020 --> 03:01:54.780]  Kabuki theater for us because they're not setting the policy someone else is, and we identify who
[03:01:54.780 --> 03:02:00.060]  they are. That's really critically important. So it's all a big game in front of us, but we have
[03:02:00.060 --> 03:02:05.340]  to identify really who they are, what's happening. And that's all part of what we do, educate people
[03:02:05.340 --> 03:02:10.940]  and make them aware. There's more of us than them, but our job is to wake people up. And sometimes
[03:02:10.940 --> 03:02:14.860]  they don't want to, they want to hear about it. You know, our job is to wake people up and tell
[03:02:14.860 --> 03:02:20.140]  them really what's going on, much like the story I gave to the UK folks about the Fabians. I said,
[03:02:20.140 --> 03:02:26.300]  look, they're destroying your country on plan. It's not by accident. That's why, you know,
[03:02:26.300 --> 03:02:30.860]  I question, you know, so do they still have a Fabian society that people belong to? Because
[03:02:30.860 --> 03:02:36.060]  typically these things are done in secret, you know, or quietly. So you have secret societies,
[03:02:36.060 --> 03:02:40.460]  you know, things like the Masons or whatever, but, you know, people will be members of this. But
[03:02:40.460 --> 03:02:44.700]  I don't think, do we have a Fabian society that you have politicians that are part of here in the
[03:02:44.700 --> 03:02:51.500]  U.S. or is it mainly the CFR that you'll see? Mostly the CFR. Yeah. Yeah. It's exactly what's
[03:02:51.500 --> 03:02:56.780]  it, you know, it's a, it's a, it's more what it's a partner of with the Fabian. So back to Cecil
[03:02:56.780 --> 03:03:01.900]  Rhodes and Lord Milner and, and, you know, Woodrow Wilson took command of house. They had this
[03:03:01.900 --> 03:03:06.220]  thing called the inquiry back in the 19 hundreds or so, and they, they formed this group and they
[03:03:06.220 --> 03:03:11.180]  want the United States and council for relations born in 1921, and they're going to set foreign
[03:03:11.180 --> 03:03:16.060]  policy up, march through, through David Rockefeller. And today you have members of the
[03:03:16.060 --> 03:03:22.380]  cabinet, 40, 50% of the people in presidential cabinets were part of the CFR. I had Clinton,
[03:03:22.380 --> 03:03:26.700]  Eisenhower, all those guys were all involved in the CFR. They knew exactly what was going on. So
[03:03:26.700 --> 03:03:32.300]  they were tearing the water for the CFR policy group. And that's exactly what goes on. So it was
[03:03:32.300 --> 03:03:38.380]  all, it looked good, you know, but reality is, uh, one of the stories that goes this way. Hey,
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[03:05:18.940 --> 03:05:24.540]  every year of several years we have an election. It's like when you're in high school,
[03:05:24.540 --> 03:05:27.820]  you know, the president of the student council. Remember those back in high school?
[03:05:30.940 --> 03:05:34.860]  Yeah. And by the way, I'm going to have longer lunch hours. We're going to have less homework.
[03:05:34.860 --> 03:05:38.940]  Right. And all of a sudden they get elected and they're like, who's running this show?
[03:05:38.940 --> 03:05:43.340]  The superintendent of the principal high school. It never happened. And that's it. Sorry. With the
[03:05:43.340 --> 03:05:48.140]  CFR, we have a beauty contest, which is a public, you know, either presidential election or
[03:05:48.140 --> 03:05:53.420]  congressional. And then who's running a show behind the scenes. It's really, it's really those
[03:05:53.420 --> 03:05:59.500]  groups, those unelected bureaucratic officials or unelected divide. And we expose what they are.
[03:05:59.500 --> 03:06:05.740]  We have that book called the shadows of power. Another book that we published years ago called
[03:06:05.740 --> 03:06:12.460]  the shadows of power exposes the council on foreign relations, war one, war two,
[03:06:12.460 --> 03:06:18.620]  Korean, Vietnam, how they all morphed into all part of the plan. That's called the shadows of
[03:06:18.620 --> 03:06:24.060]  power. So we know we did. So the Fabians is freeways about the Fabians. The shadows of power
[03:06:24.060 --> 03:06:29.100]  is about the council on foreign relations. And once people look at history, they get pretty angry
[03:06:29.100 --> 03:06:35.020]  because they know it's all been a theater for not for us, but for them. Yeah. And they play the game
[03:06:35.020 --> 03:06:39.260]  to make it look like you're running the show, but you're not. You're just a victim of the
[03:06:39.260 --> 03:06:45.420]  globalist plan. I agree. And when I think of the John Burr society, you guys have done a great job
[03:06:45.420 --> 03:06:49.900]  of educating people about the council on foreign relations, the CFR stuff. And yet we still have
[03:06:50.780 --> 03:06:57.020]  these people run for office. And I think you'll see them proudly list that as part of their CV,
[03:06:57.020 --> 03:07:01.900]  you know, that, yeah, a member of the council on foreign relations. And it surprises me.
[03:07:02.860 --> 03:07:08.860]  It's like, yeah, I'm part of this satanic group over here. But it's, you know, they see it as a,
[03:07:09.260 --> 03:07:15.980]  because it really does have a lot of, um, um, uh, Panache or whatever, or clout in Washington,
[03:07:15.980 --> 03:07:21.420]  to be a member of that club. And they're proud of it. And, uh, we need to call them out on it.
[03:07:21.420 --> 03:07:26.540]  We need to understand the history of it. And we need to understand really just how, uh, evil the
[03:07:26.540 --> 03:07:30.780]  actions have been and how that has really been there. So I guess in the UK, they still have
[03:07:30.780 --> 03:07:36.140]  people who are part of the Fabian society, but here you'll see it in the CFR and they'll be
[03:07:36.140 --> 03:07:40.300]  doing the same type of thing. Yeah. Bill Clinton was a member. Madeline Albright was a member.
[03:07:40.300 --> 03:07:46.060]  Robert Rubin was a member of being Cohen, Larry Summers, George W. Bush was going on. Leah Rice,
[03:07:46.060 --> 03:07:50.700]  Colin Power, Robert Gates, Henry Paulson, Barack Obama was president, described a candidate
[03:07:50.700 --> 03:07:56.300]  to be Gaithered, Susan Rice, you know, John Bolton, Henry McMaster, and Mike Pompeo. I
[03:07:56.300 --> 03:08:01.820]  don't know. I want you to see what's going on here. So they're there in strategic locations to,
[03:08:01.820 --> 03:08:07.660]  to monitor and steer public policy. That's what it's going on. So when you see this,
[03:08:07.660 --> 03:08:13.980]  we hear the song, Garza was Democrat, Republican. You get to the same place all the time. That's
[03:08:13.980 --> 03:08:18.380]  the key. And I remember when Reagan got elected, people were excited. Oh, look, he's not CFR,
[03:08:18.380 --> 03:08:22.540]  you know? And we, I can't remember the last time we had a president that wasn't CFR. And yet what
[03:08:22.540 --> 03:08:26.860]  he did was he put CFR people in all the different positions around him, you know?
[03:08:27.420 --> 03:08:31.100]  That's exactly. Well, Trump, Trump is not a member of the CFR. I can tell you that. So he's not a
[03:08:31.100 --> 03:08:36.620]  member. But he's got people around to make sure he doesn't get too far off the script, although he
[03:08:36.620 --> 03:08:42.460]  does. That's right. I think what Trump is really as much as anything, it's the technocracy because
[03:08:42.460 --> 03:08:47.820]  these guys are writing the checks there. I'm very concerned that, you know, we all know now what the
[03:08:48.620 --> 03:08:56.940]  CVDC is. And yet I think the same thing can be accomplished with a stable coin and they can make
[03:08:56.940 --> 03:09:01.980]  a lot of money putting the stable coin out there at the same time. So it's one way they can get
[03:09:01.980 --> 03:09:06.780]  rich. They can get rich off of that or they can't get rich off of the CVDC. And since everybody's
[03:09:06.780 --> 03:09:11.340]  kind of wise to the game of the CVDC, they don't realize that stable coin is still going to have
[03:09:11.340 --> 03:09:17.900]  those capabilities to be able to turn off your ability to trade and do other things like that.
[03:09:17.900 --> 03:09:22.220]  Tell us a little bit about the John Burr Society. I mean, I know you guys have had a lot of fights
[03:09:22.220 --> 03:09:26.380]  and that. Have you been hit with any kind of debanking or stuff like that? Because, I mean,
[03:09:26.380 --> 03:09:32.140]  I have. And I've been kicked off of PayPal and Venmo and other formats like that because
[03:09:32.940 --> 03:09:38.060]  of things that I was saying in 2020 about the lockdown and the pandemic and the vaccine,
[03:09:38.060 --> 03:09:43.020]  climate change and all the rest of stuff. Are you seeing that kind of debanking and
[03:09:43.020 --> 03:09:50.860]  deplatforming in various places? Yeah, well, sometimes we say that we get too much of truth.
[03:09:50.860 --> 03:09:54.620]  YouTube will take us down for a while or something like that and we'll come back on again.
[03:09:55.580 --> 03:10:01.020]  You know, we don't have that issue with banking, per se, but they ignore us because they don't need
[03:10:01.020 --> 03:10:05.900]  attention. We get attacked, you know, we start to grow. So they try to pretend we don't exist any
[03:10:05.900 --> 03:10:10.540]  longer. Yeah, that's when I first learned of the John Burr Society was when William F. Buckley was
[03:10:10.540 --> 03:10:15.660]  on a tear with an actual view to come after you guys. Well, I think I agree with these guys and
[03:10:15.660 --> 03:10:28.060]  I'm with Buckley. So he's a CFR member, by the way. Probably CIA as well. He was a good guy,
[03:10:28.060 --> 03:10:32.940]  right? Yeah, sure. You know, his organization exists today. Don't listen to those guys over
[03:10:32.940 --> 03:10:38.540]  there. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's why he was a good guy. That's why MPR had him on. That's right.
[03:10:38.540 --> 03:10:44.700]  Yeah, right. We wrote a book about that called the Pied Piper of the Establishment. We wrote
[03:10:45.340 --> 03:10:49.820]  Jack McMaster, our past president. You may have known him. He wrote the book about Buckley and he
[03:10:49.820 --> 03:10:55.900]  was, you know, he was all put together to make sure that he steers the conservative movement,
[03:10:55.900 --> 03:11:00.300]  their direction of the CFR, in which he was a member of the CFR. So, you know, it's like,
[03:11:00.300 --> 03:11:05.740]  you know, as I said, it's not matter who, it's all controlled, you know, and he was control
[03:11:05.740 --> 03:11:10.300]  opposition. He's a very poster child for that, isn't he? Absolutely correct. And people still
[03:11:10.300 --> 03:11:14.780]  hold him up as he was something, you know, super conservative. He was not. Yeah. I remember, you
[03:11:14.780 --> 03:11:21.180]  know, Rush Limbaugh really analyzed him. I was like, man, you don't realize who this guy is?
[03:11:21.180 --> 03:11:28.860]  That's kind of telling. But anyway, it really is a great organization and I really do appreciate
[03:11:28.860 --> 03:11:38.220]  what you guys do. And again, the quiet ideology reshaping policy from London parlors to D.C.
[03:11:38.220 --> 03:11:44.380]  power. Is that a book or is that an article? Because that's how I found out about about you.
[03:11:45.260 --> 03:11:48.780]  It sounds like the Fabian Freeway. That's what it sounds like. OK, that's the subtitle.
[03:11:50.860 --> 03:11:56.140]  The JBS has been around for a long time. We have area chapters. We educate people on the voting
[03:11:56.140 --> 03:12:01.740]  record of their representatives. And so we try to encourage people to be active participants
[03:12:01.740 --> 03:12:07.020]  in the process. How do you change your representative, David, is if you don't understand
[03:12:07.020 --> 03:12:11.420]  the Constitution or at least go visit them and say, why did you vote unconstitutionally?
[03:12:11.420 --> 03:12:15.980]  So we have this thing called the scorecard. We print it out every quarter and it talks
[03:12:15.980 --> 03:12:20.700]  about the voting record. Constitutionally, we pick them on Congress, you know, the Senate,
[03:12:20.700 --> 03:12:25.660]  as well as the House, where they are. So people know if they're voting in Constitution or not.
[03:12:25.660 --> 03:12:33.100]  And it's our personal responsibility as Americans to uphold their representative's work for us
[03:12:33.180 --> 03:12:37.820]  and say, hey, why are you voting this way? And would they have not? I mean, representative
[03:12:37.820 --> 03:12:43.500]  called me said no one ever very rarely calls me on the phone and talks about anything.
[03:12:44.140 --> 03:12:49.420]  And so we can't it's not, you know, we can't sit back. And I said, and one day we have a
[03:12:49.420 --> 03:12:53.180]  handsome young conservative show up in Congress. It doesn't happen that way.
[03:12:53.900 --> 03:13:01.180]  So my biggest goal is fight complacency in Americans and it's life is too good.
[03:13:01.900 --> 03:13:05.500]  And even though the economics today is hurting them, now they're listening,
[03:13:06.300 --> 03:13:11.420]  but life is too good and they have to, you know, we have to get behind and spend a little time
[03:13:12.060 --> 03:13:17.580]  protecting our sovereignty and our freedoms. But we have to know who we are first. And that's
[03:13:17.580 --> 03:13:22.460]  what we try to teach Americanist principles and hold up representatives who work for us to make
[03:13:22.460 --> 03:13:28.220]  sure that happens. I agree. Yeah. And that's what I liked about the John Bush society was the focus on
[03:13:28.860 --> 03:13:34.700]  local activism as well. And you know, knowing what is happening locally in your state as well. And
[03:13:34.700 --> 03:13:39.100]  I've seen what you're talking about in terms of representatives who say nobody ever calls me.
[03:13:39.740 --> 03:13:43.740]  I saw the power of that. And I've talked about this on the program. When I lived in North Carolina,
[03:13:43.740 --> 03:13:50.060]  I was involved with homeschooling. And at that point in time, all of North Carolina's government
[03:13:50.060 --> 03:13:55.740]  was Democrat, Democrat House and Senate, as well as the governor and all the rest of stuff. So the
[03:13:55.820 --> 03:13:59.020]  they decided the teachers unions decided that they're
[03:13:59.020 --> 03:14:03.900]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want
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[03:15:59.180 --> 03:16:03.820]  homeschooling and it looked like they were going to be able to do it because it was all Democrats and
[03:16:05.500 --> 03:16:10.540]  an active minority of homeschoolers, which was really small at the time. There wasn't a lot of
[03:16:10.540 --> 03:16:15.580]  people homeschooling. There's so many more who are doing it today, but everybody got actively
[03:16:15.580 --> 03:16:20.700]  involved and started writing and it made them look so much bigger than they actually were
[03:16:20.700 --> 03:16:26.140]  and actually beat down the teachers unions in a Democrat state that were going to try to
[03:16:26.140 --> 03:16:32.540]  regulate homeschooling out of existence. And so that is a, was a very important firsthand lesson
[03:16:32.540 --> 03:16:35.660]  to learn, but it's difficult to get people to do that. And that's one of the things that John
[03:16:35.660 --> 03:16:41.740]  Birch Society does, I think is excellent, which is to educate each other about what is happening
[03:16:41.820 --> 03:16:47.500]  locally within your state and, and how you can take action at a local level. I remember my,
[03:16:48.220 --> 03:16:53.420]  probably my earliest memory of the John Birch Society was the support your local sheriff stuff,
[03:16:53.420 --> 03:17:00.380]  being concerned about the federalization and of the police. And that is something that is now really
[03:17:00.380 --> 03:17:05.100]  escalating, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah. We actually have a, we have that group. It still exists
[03:17:05.100 --> 03:17:09.500]  called support your local police. We want to keep them independent of federalized. We have a group,
[03:17:09.500 --> 03:17:14.860]  we have an affiliate not-for-profit called support your local police. And we also have a,
[03:17:14.860 --> 03:17:20.300]  you mentioned school with the homeschool. We've been existing for 15 years called the Freedom
[03:17:20.300 --> 03:17:26.300]  Project Academy. It goes from kindergarten to high school. We have live, you know, education,
[03:17:26.300 --> 03:17:32.060]  of course, online, or you can buy a recorded version of it. And that's been around. So we're
[03:17:32.060 --> 03:17:39.900]  educating all over the world. Adults are having their children sign up to learn really Americanism,
[03:17:39.900 --> 03:17:48.380]  who we are, not fabricated history. And we teach you how the kids how to write cursive and do math
[03:17:48.380 --> 03:17:53.420]  or read books. How about that for a change? And so we, you know, it hasn't happened in a public
[03:17:53.420 --> 03:17:59.260]  school, I can tell you that. And we spent more time in education than social, emotional learning.
[03:17:59.260 --> 03:18:02.460]  But the thing is, and it goes, you mentioned Alison, we wrote a lot of books about that.
[03:18:02.460 --> 03:18:07.980]  But the thing is, is that so we look at education, our children, our adults, bring the bring it to
[03:18:07.980 --> 03:18:13.260]  view really who we are, what we're all about, because we've been indoctrinated. And we know
[03:18:13.260 --> 03:18:18.220]  that brainwashing has existed through all the mass media, David, all the mass media, as you know,
[03:18:18.780 --> 03:18:22.060]  very well, because you're in the media business. That's all controlled by the Council on Foreign
[03:18:22.060 --> 03:18:26.300]  Relations. Every one of the New York Times, the other networks, including Fox News,
[03:18:26.300 --> 03:18:32.300]  is all controlled media. And they all say the same thing, same deal. So guess what? That's the
[03:18:32.300 --> 03:18:36.780]  only thing you hear. That's the only thing you believe. So we said, no timeout, let's talk about
[03:18:36.780 --> 03:18:42.060]  reality here. And it's hard for some people to swallow. But once you've been red pilled,
[03:18:42.860 --> 03:18:47.980]  all of a sudden, the world changes. Like, now I see what's going on here. So our that's our job in
[03:18:47.980 --> 03:18:52.460]  the Birch Society with kids with school, you write about the law enforcement want to keep them
[03:18:52.460 --> 03:18:57.900]  independent. We teach the Constitution, we get people involved. It's about education, get people
[03:18:57.900 --> 03:19:03.580]  activated and evolve. That's really important. I absolutely agree. And that's how we save our
[03:19:03.580 --> 03:19:09.500]  country, as well as the people over in England. They see the problem now because they're watching
[03:19:09.500 --> 03:19:14.460]  their country be destroyed. And I mentioned the Fabians we first came on, because that's coming
[03:19:14.460 --> 03:19:19.260]  to tractions for the United States. What you see in Europe is coming to tractions for here. Oh,
[03:19:19.260 --> 03:19:25.100]  yeah, just delayed just a little bit. Yeah, it's a warning. That's right. Yeah. And so, you know,
[03:19:25.100 --> 03:19:29.260]  getting back to the federalization of the police, you know, we look at these things and we say,
[03:19:29.900 --> 03:19:35.340]  okay, even if you like the guy who's doing it, and even if you agree with the stated goal,
[03:19:35.340 --> 03:19:40.140]  you have to look at this and say, Yeah, but that policy is going to establish a precedent
[03:19:40.140 --> 03:19:45.820]  of the federalization of law enforcement. And so I know where that leads, right. So we pull this
[03:19:45.820 --> 03:19:53.180]  back. Okay, so let's walk this back. And we have to oppose this, even if we agree with the stated
[03:19:53.180 --> 03:20:02.940]  purpose, that's the wrong way to do it. And it is so important that we not sacrifice the, you know,
[03:20:02.940 --> 03:20:07.980]  that the means does not, it's not just that the end does not justify the means. That's how these
[03:20:07.980 --> 03:20:13.420]  people always get us there. And it's understanding those principles and what America is about,
[03:20:13.420 --> 03:20:17.020]  understanding the Constitution and what that's about, and why those things are there,
[03:20:17.660 --> 03:20:23.180]  those important safeguards against tyranny, and understand that if we wipe those things away,
[03:20:23.180 --> 03:20:28.780]  because it's going to make it more expedient for us to achieve this particular policy goal,
[03:20:29.740 --> 03:20:34.140]  we are going to pay the price in the long run, aren't we? Nationalized police force is one of
[03:20:34.140 --> 03:20:39.340]  Marx's, one of Karl Marx's plan. And so that's what we're trying to avoid, keep them local and
[03:20:39.340 --> 03:20:44.620]  independent. Your sheriff is a very important person in your county, very important person.
[03:20:44.620 --> 03:20:50.140]  And I always, I encourage people to know who the sheriff is and talk to them and making sure that
[03:20:50.140 --> 03:20:55.580]  you understand, they understand about America's principles and our rights. And they have, you have
[03:20:55.580 --> 03:21:01.020]  to know who the sheriff is so they know who you are, much like legislators and state legislator.
[03:21:01.020 --> 03:21:07.020]  You know, go back to our basics of our country. Our United States were formed as independent
[03:21:07.020 --> 03:21:12.780]  states, sovereign states. Over a period of time, David, that we've given, the states have given
[03:21:12.780 --> 03:21:17.900]  power from themselves to the federal government. That's not the way it was supposed to operate.
[03:21:17.900 --> 03:21:23.340]  The government's supposed to defend us against public and domestic enemies, you know? And that's
[03:21:23.340 --> 03:21:27.500]  very limited powers. Look at Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution, very limited powers
[03:21:27.500 --> 03:21:32.380]  Congress has, right? And government, and so we have actually given more power to the federal
[03:21:32.380 --> 03:21:37.340]  government, why it's all upside-side and distorted today. So we spend time with our local
[03:21:37.340 --> 03:21:42.860]  legislators in each state to make sure they uphold the constitutional responsibility. Each
[03:21:42.860 --> 03:21:48.140]  state has a constitution. The word democracy does not exist. It's always a republic. That's
[03:21:48.140 --> 03:21:52.060]  all another thing we teach people. That word does not appear in our constitution or any state
[03:21:52.060 --> 03:21:57.820]  constitution. And people don't even know that. And I said you have to understand states are sovereign.
[03:21:57.820 --> 03:22:02.220]  Make sure you make, this is where it begins. So if you look at our history,
[03:22:02.220 --> 03:22:06.940]  it was done with that phenomenal idea that keep them sovereign independent states. So
[03:22:07.900 --> 03:22:12.540]  those basic things I just said to you, most Americans I talked to do not understand that.
[03:22:12.540 --> 03:22:18.620]  Yeah. That's right. They absolutely do not. And it's so important that we
[03:22:19.580 --> 03:22:23.580]  understand the foundation of the principles and why these things were set up the way they were.
[03:22:23.580 --> 03:22:27.660]  Actually, it's a good plan, even though the constitution has been completely
[03:22:27.660 --> 03:22:31.900]  violated. It's still a good plan and we should try it someday in our lifetime, I think.
[03:22:33.500 --> 03:22:36.380]  It's like the Ten Commandments, not the Ten Suggestions, you know?
[03:22:36.380 --> 03:22:40.780]  That's right. And the constitution, you have to know it before you can uphold it.
[03:22:41.820 --> 03:22:46.940]  And everybody, whether they're local or state or especially federal, they take an oath to the
[03:22:46.940 --> 03:22:53.260]  constitution as a requirement of their authority. And so when they violate that, they no longer
[03:22:53.260 --> 03:22:58.140]  have any legitimate authority, but they do have a lot of power. And so we need to understand that
[03:22:58.140 --> 03:23:02.300]  we can have power collectively. And that's one of the things I think the John Birch Society does
[03:23:02.300 --> 03:23:07.420]  bring to the table. Thank you so much for joining us. It's been a fascinating discussion, Mr. Morrow.
[03:23:09.180 --> 03:23:14.060]  Thank you, Wayne Morrow, the CEO of the John Birch Society. Always great talking to you guys.
[03:23:14.060 --> 03:23:16.940]  We're going to take a quick break, folks, and we'll be right back. We'll talk a little bit
[03:23:16.940 --> 03:23:21.660]  about what's going on with cars here in just a second. So we'll be right back. Stay with us.
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[03:27:27.020 --> 03:27:31.580]  Welcome back folks. We got a lot of comments and Jersey Boy, thank you so much for the support.
[03:27:31.580 --> 03:27:34.780]  He says, can you please ask if he was ever heard of William Cooper who wrote,
[03:27:34.780 --> 03:27:38.540]  Behold a Pale Horse? I'm sorry, I didn't see that comment in time. I'm sorry.
[03:27:39.340 --> 03:27:43.180]  And does he know about Jimmy from Brooklyn who JBS interviewed,
[03:27:43.180 --> 03:27:49.420]  who I'm trying to get on your show? Okay. Well, I'm sorry I missed that. I'm very sorry.
[03:27:49.420 --> 03:27:53.820]  Yes, apologies. Owen 61, thank you so much for the support. He just says,
[03:27:53.820 --> 03:27:56.300]  thank you. Well, thank you, Owen. Appreciate it.
[03:27:56.300 --> 03:28:01.180]  Yes, thank you so much. And Jersey Boy again says, I remember a few years ago from JBS an email,
[03:28:01.180 --> 03:28:07.260]  history of, and I need to, history of Republicans, it was started by a communist. Does he know what
[03:28:07.260 --> 03:28:13.580]  it was and what does he think of JFK? You know, it's interesting. A book I really enjoyed
[03:28:14.860 --> 03:28:19.820]  was an alternative history book by Harry Turledove. He's written a lot of alternative
[03:28:19.820 --> 03:28:25.980]  history books and this one was about the Civil War. It's called How Few Remain. And in it,
[03:28:25.980 --> 03:28:31.820]  you know, you may know the history that Antietam, as bloody as the battle was,
[03:28:34.540 --> 03:28:40.460]  nearly was, could have been a victory for the South except that one of the couriers dropped
[03:28:40.460 --> 03:28:46.620]  the orders that he was carrying and they fell into the Union's hands. And so in his book,
[03:28:47.740 --> 03:28:50.860]  the guy said, hey, you dropped those orders, better pick those up. Can you imagine what
[03:28:50.860 --> 03:28:56.300]  would happen if the other guy's got that right? And so that causes an early end to the war.
[03:28:56.940 --> 03:29:03.580]  And pretty much all the major figures of both North and South survive. And the
[03:29:05.260 --> 03:29:13.660]  causes early end of the war and the South to gain its independence. And in his alternative history,
[03:29:13.660 --> 03:29:20.140]  Lincoln is entirely discredited because he lost the war. But then he makes a comeback as this
[03:29:20.140 --> 03:29:25.420]  book is picking up a couple of decades on at that point in time. I think he's got Stonewall
[03:29:25.420 --> 03:29:31.900]  Jackson as the president of the Confederacy. And Lincoln makes a political comeback as head
[03:29:31.900 --> 03:29:36.300]  of the Socialist Party. And that's one of the things that made that book so interesting was
[03:29:36.300 --> 03:29:42.780]  he really did understand these people, what motivated them and the things behind them.
[03:29:42.780 --> 03:29:48.860]  And so yeah, there was an early connection with that. And if you look at, always think
[03:29:48.860 --> 03:29:53.660]  about the Pledge of Allegiance that was put in by the Grand Army of the Republic. Most of the
[03:29:53.660 --> 03:29:58.940]  veterans, especially if they were well known or successful or played an important part in the war,
[03:29:59.660 --> 03:30:04.700]  they got very big positions in the subsequent governments that were there. And the Grand
[03:30:04.700 --> 03:30:11.020]  Army of the Republic, which was the organization of Civil War veterans for the North, had a
[03:30:11.020 --> 03:30:15.980]  tremendous amount of influence. They were the ones who instituted the Pledge of Allegiance.
[03:30:15.980 --> 03:30:22.780]  And it initially did not have under God in it until the mid 1950s. And so the emphasis was on
[03:30:22.780 --> 03:30:30.620]  one nation, indivisible. And that, you know, very harsh with that. And the Pledge was done
[03:30:30.620 --> 03:30:37.980]  with one arm extended out, palm down, just like the Nazi salute. They changed it to hand over
[03:30:37.980 --> 03:30:45.180]  your heart because of the Nazi salute. But yeah, socialism and a lot of other things were there.
[03:30:45.180 --> 03:30:51.980]  And as well as the concentration of power, really talking about the destruction of the states as
[03:30:51.980 --> 03:30:56.780]  sovereign entities and the understanding that the states had created the federal government,
[03:30:56.780 --> 03:30:59.900]  all that stuff disappeared with the Civil War. Go ahead.
[03:31:01.340 --> 03:31:06.620]  We have username 0123456789. AI will be kosher and DEI.
[03:31:08.620 --> 03:31:14.220]  Nibuduru, 2029, says we have the best government money can buy. And that's a quote from Mark Twain.
[03:31:15.980 --> 03:31:24.060]  And they spend more and more every single day. Pezzonovante, 1776. Ask the guest his take on war,
[03:31:24.060 --> 03:31:27.660]  Gaza, Trump's anti-Semitism, czar, and the Heritage Foundation's Project Esther.
[03:31:27.660 --> 03:31:29.660]  I apologize. I didn't see that. Yes.
[03:31:29.660 --> 03:31:31.180]  The conversation was too good.
[03:31:33.100 --> 03:31:37.420]  Guard Goldsmith says, curiously, people often claim Marx was focused solely on economics,
[03:31:37.420 --> 03:31:40.860]  but his entire worldview was cultural based on envy and hate.
[03:31:40.860 --> 03:31:46.380]  Yeah. Conflict, yeah. Like going in dialectic. That's why, you know, we have to look at the
[03:31:46.380 --> 03:31:51.660]  different ways that they divide us. You know, it was very explicit what Bill Ayers and Bernadine
[03:31:51.660 --> 03:31:59.100]  Dorn, the weathermen, wanted to do. They wouldn't have a race war. Marx focused, the thing about
[03:31:59.100 --> 03:32:06.300]  economics was there, but that was really a class struggle, right? And the economics was a part of
[03:32:06.300 --> 03:32:11.580]  that class struggle. But it's always about dividing us. And that's why he said, you know,
[03:32:11.580 --> 03:32:16.780]  we have to be very careful about the Republican versus Democrat thing, any kind of division
[03:32:16.780 --> 03:32:23.100]  that they can use like that. And when we attach ourselves to a different ethnic group or different
[03:32:23.100 --> 03:32:29.500]  political group, these different types of things, those attachments draw us away from the principles
[03:32:29.500 --> 03:32:34.460]  that can be the bulwark against this kind of socialist hell that they want to put us in.
[03:32:35.260 --> 03:32:40.380]  Yeah. And Mama C 1996 says, I never learned so much as when I was homeschooling my kids.
[03:32:41.020 --> 03:32:46.140]  That's right. That's right. That's excellent. And that was the thing that I really missed about it.
[03:32:46.140 --> 03:32:51.420]  That was, that was where I put all of my effort before I had the show. As a matter of fact,
[03:32:51.420 --> 03:32:57.820]  that was at one point, it was kind of bothering me because I was filling in for Alex at the very
[03:32:57.820 --> 03:33:00.780]  beginning. He said, you know, there's going to be millions of people listening to you. I said,
[03:33:00.780 --> 03:33:07.900]  don't tell me that right now. But because I was not very much into public speaking or anything
[03:33:07.900 --> 03:33:12.380]  like that. And I said, no, the way I think of this, and that was in his original studio,
[03:33:12.380 --> 03:33:16.860]  which was really small and intimate. I said, the way I think of this is I'm talking to the
[03:33:16.860 --> 03:33:20.780]  guys over there running the board. I could see them. And I said, I'm just thinking like I'm
[03:33:20.780 --> 03:33:25.340]  doing homeschooling with my kids. So I said, don't talk to me about millions of people
[03:33:25.420 --> 03:33:30.860]  listening. That'll freeze me up. So that's the way I always looked at it. And it was such a
[03:33:30.860 --> 03:33:38.220]  wonderful thing because it gave us an opportunity to go back and look at content that was compelled
[03:33:38.220 --> 03:33:45.340]  on us in the schools and to, to view it in a different way. And that's one of the things I've
[03:33:45.340 --> 03:33:50.460]  always said about biology and evolution. You know, when it's taught to us in the schools,
[03:33:50.540 --> 03:33:56.540]  it was always dumbed down into skeletons and death, right? For the evolutionists, death
[03:33:57.420 --> 03:34:04.380]  is the thing, the engine of creation. For us, it is the giver of life. And we didn't look at
[03:34:04.380 --> 03:34:11.100]  comparative anatomy of skeletons. We looked at the unique design of each and every animal. And that
[03:34:11.100 --> 03:34:15.980]  was a thing that was so fascinating. So it really is a blessing and an opportunity. I hope if you
[03:34:15.980 --> 03:34:19.500]  have the opportunity, you take that to homeschool your kids. Have a good day. Thank you.
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