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[01:23.200 --> 01:25.680] You're listening to The David Knight Show.
[01:28.160 --> 01:32.640] All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Anthony Frida. He's got a new book that's coming
[01:32.640 --> 01:38.560] out. We're going to talk to him about that, The Thought Crimes of Anthony Frida. And he's got,
[01:38.560 --> 01:50.080] he's been very successful as an artist, and his art is full of very important critiques of the,
[01:50.080 --> 01:56.640] of what we see politically. He's actually had his art put on display at the 9-11 Museum
[01:56.800 --> 02:02.480] and Memorial in New York City, and he's on the same page as we are, I think, about 9-11.
[02:02.480 --> 02:10.480] His tenure with Infowars as an illustrator and writer fully submitted his place in the world of
[02:10.480 --> 02:16.880] controversial alternative news, and he's been very vocal about his role in that space, and so that's
[02:16.880 --> 02:22.640] where I got to know Anthony, as well as his work with Charles Slinty and Trends Journal.
[02:22.640 --> 02:25.200] So thank you for joining us, Anthony. Good to see you again.
[02:25.200 --> 02:31.280] Great to see you, David, and thanks for having me. A beautiful set, actually.
[02:31.280 --> 02:36.800] Well, thank you, thank you. Yeah, I always wanted to talk to you about your background here, and
[02:36.800 --> 02:39.920] there's a whole other aspect of your background that I wasn't aware of
[02:40.720 --> 02:46.160] now that you're getting into Christian art, and you've got a project with that as well,
[02:46.160 --> 02:51.760] and GoFundMe to help realize that project. But let's talk about your personal journey here.
[02:52.720 --> 03:01.520] You began doing copy stuff for the advertising industry, and you began helping them to sell
[03:01.520 --> 03:06.160] Joe Campbell. Talk a little bit about that and how you got from there to where you are now.
[03:07.840 --> 03:13.040] Yeah, so it's quite a journey. I've been doing it for 40 years, so I'll give you the condensed
[03:13.040 --> 03:18.880] version, but yeah, I got out of art school. I had this dream of becoming this famous,
[03:19.840 --> 03:27.760] prosperous, thriving artist, and I just wasn't prepared. I mean, I went to Pratt at four years
[03:27.760 --> 03:34.000] of training in art and painting and drawing, and I was pretty proficient, and I was pretty confident.
[03:35.200 --> 03:40.640] But they really didn't train you how to make a living as an artist, so I sort of figured it
[03:40.640 --> 03:46.080] out on my own. Now I have to make a living doing this? So crossing that threshold from
[03:46.080 --> 03:51.280] academia into the professional world for any artist is a scary time. I mean, I teach seniors
[03:51.280 --> 03:56.720] now at FIT, and it's my way of giving back, because I know how scared they are. So I try to
[03:58.400 --> 04:02.960] sort of pivot that. And I think it's a scarier time right now than ever has been. I mean,
[04:02.960 --> 04:08.160] we look at AI, and a lot of people are just content to throw a prompt at AI and take whatever
[04:08.160 --> 04:11.360] it gives them. What do you think about that? How is that going to affect art?
[04:11.440 --> 04:16.640] Well, I think it's going to be not just art. I mean, I think it's designed to create a post-human
[04:16.640 --> 04:24.400] future where the robots do all the work, and they work 24 hours a day. And I mean, the transhumanist
[04:24.400 --> 04:30.720] elevator pitch or elevator to hell pitch is that the robots do everything for us, and we have the
[04:30.720 --> 04:36.480] freedom to do whatever we want, and they'll give us a basic unit of income. I don't think it's
[04:37.440 --> 04:42.160] going to work out that way, but that's their utopian, post-human, transhumanist future.
[04:43.920 --> 04:48.320] I had my class yesterday. The kids were crying. They were literally crying,
[04:49.280 --> 04:52.560] because they just went to school for four years to learn how to be an artist, and now
[04:52.560 --> 05:00.400] anyone who has an AI program can do what they do. So it's very demoralizing to the creatives,
[05:00.400 --> 05:04.880] but I mean, the same thing goes for the guys who, remember they said learn to code? Like,
[05:04.880 --> 05:08.320] not anymore. Yeah, they're putting themselves out of a job. That's right.
[05:09.680 --> 05:13.120] Well, the other part of it is though, and I think we'll get to this when we get to where you are
[05:13.120 --> 05:19.680] right now, the machine has no soul. It's going to put things together statistically, and it can copy
[05:19.680 --> 05:27.200] and paste and throw things against the wall. And in a sense, it's a sophisticated version of a
[05:27.200 --> 05:33.200] chimpanzee painting, right? And so there is still going to be a niche there, I think, for the human
[05:33.200 --> 05:38.560] soul, communicating truth and beauty. I think that's really the issue there, and that's what
[05:38.560 --> 05:42.720] we have to focus on. And I think that that's going to be pretty obvious to people. You know,
[05:42.720 --> 05:49.200] there's a lot of things that AI can do, especially, I think, in the art aspect, because it can
[05:49.200 --> 05:56.400] hallucinate, and it looks like it's having a drug trip or whatever, and that can be useful
[05:56.400 --> 06:02.480] in art or even in music to some degree. But when I look at it for music, for example,
[06:03.600 --> 06:10.080] the thing about AI is that you can't precisely get it to do what you want. You know, it can get
[06:10.080 --> 06:16.960] like 80% there or 85% there, which is not good enough for art. As many people have said, art
[06:16.960 --> 06:21.680] is never finished. It's simply abandoned. At some point, you've got to stop tweaking it and just go
[06:21.680 --> 06:26.800] do something different, the next project or whatever. And I think that's the problem with AI.
[06:26.800 --> 06:30.400] It just throws this stuff out there, and people say, yeah, that's good enough. I think there's
[06:30.400 --> 06:36.240] going to be a qualitative difference that people will be able to tell that last 15 or 20%
[06:37.120 --> 06:41.200] that is there. That's my hope. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah, that's my hope.
[06:43.040 --> 06:49.360] But I think you're right. Listen, our advantage moving forward is the robots don't laugh,
[06:49.360 --> 06:54.640] they don't cry, they don't love. That's right. They're not connected to God. In fact,
[06:54.640 --> 07:03.120] I think it's the opposite. I have this idea that just as the Holy Spirit is this unifying
[07:03.120 --> 07:12.320] force and universal force of good and God, the obverse, the yin to that yang is this unifying
[07:12.320 --> 07:18.960] force of darkness, which informs and which has basically a cauldron for this AI to be created.
[07:18.960 --> 07:26.000] And we're incarnating it by giving it prompts and giving it life. But that spirit
[07:26.000 --> 07:29.760] is a dark spirit, and I sense that and I feel that it's an anti-human spirit.
[07:29.760 --> 07:34.320] I agree. So does Elon Musk agrees with you as well. He said we're summoning the demon.
[07:35.520 --> 07:38.080] Yeah, maybe we should pay attention to what he's saying about that.
[07:41.360 --> 07:45.280] Some of these guys who are atheists say there's something here that mathematics doesn't
[07:45.920 --> 07:50.400] describe or define. It's something beyond mathematics. So what's going on? They don't
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[08:54.320 --> 08:57.120] You know, these systems arrive at the decisions that they make.
[08:58.560 --> 09:05.840] To a certain point, it's called black box technology. It's opaque. But robots understand
[09:05.840 --> 09:12.480] it. But they understand us though. That's the problem. We don't understand how they do what
[09:12.480 --> 09:18.080] they do. But they understand us. I mean, they have so much big data about humanity and what
[09:18.080 --> 09:26.240] moves us and that influences us that it's a lopsided relationship. That's why it's such
[09:26.240 --> 09:30.720] a good fit for the government because the government knows everything about us. But the
[09:30.720 --> 09:37.120] government itself is by design a black box. That black box is labeled national security. We can't
[09:37.120 --> 09:43.200] tell you. It would have to kill you, right? Exactly. I mean, I could talk about AI for hours.
[09:44.640 --> 09:49.920] Yeah, but let's go back to your story. You started working at an ad agency as you got out.
[09:52.400 --> 10:00.560] Yeah, I was a young man. I listed after money and women. I was in my 20s and I
[10:01.520 --> 10:10.640] became very successful working for Fortune 500 companies. I was in advertising about 10 years.
[10:10.640 --> 10:16.400] I started to learn and see all the psychological tricks and manipulations, you know, informed by
[10:16.400 --> 10:24.080] the ideas of Edward Bernays and his book, Propaganda. He was a master of mass psychological
[10:24.400 --> 10:30.560] manipulation, right? And that was employed. He was contracted by the government and by ad agencies.
[10:31.360 --> 10:38.080] It's a long story, but those ideas work because people respond positively to certain stimuli,
[10:38.080 --> 10:42.640] negatively to other stimuli. We're pretty predictable animals. And once you break that code,
[10:43.360 --> 10:48.240] you're trying to sell something and you're smart and clever, you can figure out a way to do it.
[10:48.800 --> 10:53.920] But I got really turned off. I was working on the Joel Campbell ad campaign.
[10:54.640 --> 11:00.160] And in those days, they were, you know, paying us a lot of money to do this stuff. And I was just
[11:00.160 --> 11:05.280] enamored with the money and I bought a condo in Manhattan. And I thought I was like,
[11:05.280 --> 11:12.960] on top of the world. And then so I kind of got lost in that, that world of money and success.
[11:12.960 --> 11:22.640] And then the FTC determined that our campaign was illegal because we were using cartoon camels.
[11:22.640 --> 11:29.440] They said we were marketing cigarettes to children. So I sort of had a moral crisis and
[11:29.440 --> 11:32.800] I didn't become an artist to sell cigarettes to kids, right? And I said, you know,
[11:34.240 --> 11:38.080] maybe you can get a job for Pfizer because they, they sell poison to kids all the time.
[11:38.240 --> 11:44.400] Well, that's later on in the story. So I had this moral crisis. It's come to Jesus moment.
[11:44.400 --> 11:48.400] I said, that's it. I'm done with advertising. I'm not going to sell my soul to the devil.
[11:49.360 --> 11:55.920] So I was still, you know, now I'm a young man in my thirties. I was pretty naive politically at that
[11:55.920 --> 12:02.240] time. And I said, I'm going to work with the good guys, right? I'm going to work for New York Times
[12:02.240 --> 12:08.800] and the New Yorker. And I started working for, you know, all these mainstream publications as an
[12:08.800 --> 12:13.760] editorial illustrator. And I worked for the op-ed page in the New York Times, which is like a premier
[12:13.760 --> 12:23.440] showcase for thinkers and for, I kind of like where the elite speak to each other. And I was,
[12:24.240 --> 12:28.880] again, I was on top of the world and I'm working like the best place for an illustrator to be.
[12:28.880 --> 12:35.920] And I was doing articles for them on a regular basis. And then I got to see how the sausage is
[12:35.920 --> 12:43.840] made there. And the art director and the editor told me that every single word that goes through
[12:43.840 --> 12:50.560] here has to be vetted by the state department. And I said, I thought, you know, you're the fourth
[12:50.560 --> 12:54.880] ward, you're, I said, that's like Pravda. What do you mean every word has to be for the state
[12:54.880 --> 13:03.120] department? And they said, that's how it is. So my naive taste started to unravel at that point.
[13:03.120 --> 13:09.280] I started to become a little more educated about how the world really works. And I feel silly now
[13:09.280 --> 13:12.720] saying that, but I thought the New York Times was this like beacon of truth and
[13:13.520 --> 13:21.920] objectivity. I mean, I couldn't be more wrong. But so I got an assignment to do, it was a
[13:21.920 --> 13:27.920] not bad piece right before the Iraq war penned by the then secretary of state Condoleezza Rice.
[13:29.040 --> 13:32.640] And it was outlining all the lies that we know now that took us to that war.
[13:32.640 --> 13:38.720] And I illustrated the piece. And then I had another moral crisis. This guy said to myself,
[13:39.760 --> 13:47.440] my God, I went from selling cigarettes to kids to selling war. I didn't think I could do worse than
[13:47.440 --> 13:56.240] that. But I did. So I had another, another, you know, time to question what am I doing with my life?
[13:56.240 --> 14:00.400] What are my life choices? What do I really, what do I really want to do with my skills and my,
[14:01.600 --> 14:07.840] my whatever gift God's given me and my passions? And I mean, I love to create imagery is just
[14:07.840 --> 14:11.440] like the only thing I'm good at. So I wanted to stay in that lane.
[14:11.760 --> 14:18.000] So right then was about the time that these seminal alternative news sites started coming out,
[14:18.000 --> 14:24.160] like Infowars, and there was a few others and TransJournal. And I reached out to them. And
[14:24.960 --> 14:32.080] because I figured these guys are exposing the lies of the mainstream media that I used to work for
[14:32.640 --> 14:36.880] and of the advertising agencies I used to work for. So I wanted to bite the hand that fed me.
[14:36.960 --> 14:42.720] So I started, I started working for people in the health, freedom movement, people in the liberty
[14:42.720 --> 14:50.800] movement, people in all these different movements, you know, people like you included. And I've been
[14:50.800 --> 14:56.960] there ever since because I do think there are, there are good people out there who are trying to
[14:56.960 --> 15:03.280] get to the truth of the matter about all these issues. And journalists, you know, journalists,
[15:04.080 --> 15:11.840] all these issues and journalists and activists and filmmakers and writers, and I've worked for
[15:11.840 --> 15:21.920] a lot of them and they're my heroes. So and politically, I got I was on the contract for
[15:21.920 --> 15:26.080] the RFK campaign when he was running for president, because I believed in what he was doing in his,
[15:26.880 --> 15:32.960] his work to expose the vaccines and the dangers of pharmaceuticals.
[15:33.760 --> 15:42.320] Right. So I still have a hand in the political realm. But I'm basically working for people who
[15:42.320 --> 15:46.800] I think are the good guys, you know, that I can sleep well at night now, David, because I think
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[16:47.840 --> 16:53.120] Well, at least trying to tell the truth, you know, it's like, it's not equivalent like when
[16:54.080 --> 16:58.720] like when people get fined for like the way they went after Alex for what he said,
[16:59.520 --> 17:06.000] like the New York Times and CNN tell lies of much greater magnitude every day and
[17:06.000 --> 17:11.360] nobody sued. And by the way, their lives lead to wars that kill millions of people.
[17:11.360 --> 17:15.760] Their lives sell products that kill millions of people like and they're never held accountable.
[17:16.400 --> 17:22.960] And then and they're not the difference between them and say what independent journalists do is
[17:22.960 --> 17:28.400] that they're purposely trying to lie to you. They know they're lying to you. Yeah. You know,
[17:28.400 --> 17:33.520] it's one thing to make a mistake in the search for the truth. We're not always going to be perfect,
[17:33.520 --> 17:39.600] but there's a big difference to somebody who's purposely knowing to lie to you to hurt you
[17:40.160 --> 17:44.320] and your children than somebody who's just trying to figure out in real time what the hell's going
[17:44.320 --> 17:51.120] on because it's very confusing. I agree. We've been lied to so much about so about everything
[17:51.840 --> 17:58.080] that people become so skeptical that, you know, I think unfortunately for us, there's this
[17:58.080 --> 18:02.160] environment where nobody believes anything. And that's where we're at now. Nobody believes
[18:02.160 --> 18:06.240] anything. So they come up with a hundred different theories of how Charlie Kirk was killed,
[18:06.240 --> 18:11.200] right? No, because nobody believes the official story. That's right. And we can never get to the
[18:11.200 --> 18:16.800] bottom of anything because everybody has their own theory about what happened. And there's no
[18:16.800 --> 18:22.720] universal truth anymore. We're in the post-truth age. And I think that's so the truth is going to
[18:22.720 --> 18:28.880] be the greatest, most valuable commodity in the future. I mean, here's what you need. Here's the
[18:28.880 --> 18:34.560] fundamental truth. Government lies. It always has always will for its own interest. So if you
[18:34.560 --> 18:39.360] understand that and come to whatever the government says or the official press says with a healthy
[18:39.360 --> 18:43.600] dose of skepticism, I think that's the most important thing. You know, you mentioned the
[18:43.600 --> 18:47.760] fact that you realized that they had to get the approval of the state department for what they
[18:47.760 --> 18:52.160] were saying at the New York Times. And of course, we know about Operation Mockingbird and the rest
[18:52.160 --> 18:59.280] of this stuff. I thought it was really amazing, the disingenuous astonishment at the fact that
[18:59.280 --> 19:04.400] Hegseth openly said, well, you're going to have to get approval for anything to release. I don't
[19:04.400 --> 19:08.960] like that. But that's not anything that's really different. The only thing that's different about
[19:08.960 --> 19:14.880] that is that they're going to own it and say it out loud rather than doing it behind closed doors.
[19:14.880 --> 19:20.160] I had a friend who worked at the Pentagon and he worked for the side that was vetting movie
[19:20.160 --> 19:25.200] scripts. If they liked your movie script, if it was complimentary of them and their agenda,
[19:25.200 --> 19:29.600] they would give you access to military equipment that you could use to film your movie. If they
[19:29.600 --> 19:34.080] didn't like it, you didn't get that equipment. And that might sink your movie because the expense
[19:34.080 --> 19:39.200] of trying to get that equipment, otherwise they'd provide it at a reduced cost or for free. So that
[19:39.200 --> 19:45.760] kind of thing has been going along for a very long time. Yeah. I mean, I'm still surprised. I
[19:45.760 --> 19:49.040] remember, I'm old enough to remember Frank Church, the Church committee here, and it's like,
[19:49.040 --> 19:54.240] he had the receipts. He proved it back in the seventies and nobody cared. It's like,
[19:54.240 --> 19:59.680] it did nothing. They just went back to business as usual. Yeah. That's right. I mean, you know,
[20:00.480 --> 20:04.800] thank God for him and his work, but I mean, he really didn't do anything in the big picture.
[20:04.800 --> 20:09.760] Yeah. And all the stuff about the heart attack gun, as I've said before, that was a really
[20:09.760 --> 20:15.680] a distraction because the whole thing began because from their inception, the CIA and the NSA
[20:15.680 --> 20:19.920] were spying on Americans without a search warrant, which, you know, takes us, we've been
[20:19.920 --> 20:25.680] fighting that thing going up to, you know, 2012, 2013, it snowed and all the rest of stuff.
[20:25.680 --> 20:32.400] So the result of that was still the result of the Church committee hearings was the FISA Act,
[20:32.400 --> 20:36.640] the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, which they then used to give themselves legal cover
[20:36.640 --> 20:41.760] to do what they'd been doing from their inception, which was to spy on Americans without a search
[20:41.760 --> 20:47.840] warrant. As Rand Paul says, you know, spying on Mr. and Mrs. Verizon, you know, you go to one judge
[20:47.840 --> 20:53.600] and a secret court that nobody knows about and you get legal cover to violate the constitution.
[20:54.240 --> 20:56.560] So they'll always turn this stuff to their own advantage.
[20:57.600 --> 21:02.080] Well, yeah. And I was speaking of that subject. I worked on one of my heroes, William Binney,
[21:02.080 --> 21:06.960] and I had the pleasure of working on a documentary about William. I met him,
[21:07.040 --> 21:13.680] just a great guy. And I mean, we quit because he said the systems he designed to spy on
[21:13.680 --> 21:19.680] potential terrorists would be being used to spy on everybody. And that's against the oath he took
[21:19.680 --> 21:24.400] and that's illegal. And he said he's not going to do it. So what do they do? The FBI raided his
[21:24.400 --> 21:32.240] house and arrested him under false pretenses and false charges. But yeah, so just get back to my
[21:32.240 --> 21:40.080] journey. So I don't lose track. After the RFK thing, I worked for him for a year and it was
[21:40.080 --> 21:45.360] a great experience. And I got to see just how dirty the Democrats are. I mean, Republicans
[21:45.360 --> 21:51.120] basically left him alone. You know, Trump would make some, you know, nasty comments now and then,
[21:51.120 --> 21:59.680] but the Democrats actively tried to destroy him with lawsuits and moles and people doing dirty
[21:59.680 --> 22:06.400] tricks. And it was a constant relentless assault on him that really opened my eyes again. I mean,
[22:06.400 --> 22:14.240] I was naive again. Whenever I underestimate how evil these people are and how mean they are to be
[22:14.240 --> 22:22.000] corrupt and to use the power they have or abuse any power they have in the courts, in the media,
[22:22.000 --> 22:28.400] in academia, in tech, I mean, which they control those institutions, unfortunately.
[22:29.040 --> 22:35.360] And it just, it sickened me. It sickened me the way that they smeared him and lied about him
[22:35.360 --> 22:41.440] and sued him and tried to play dirty tricks with ballots and just on and on and on.
[22:43.600 --> 22:50.160] So then I got out, that made me realize that the battle isn't political. This battle is spiritual.
[22:50.880 --> 22:56.240] So I wanted to move from the temporal plane into the spiritual plane of my work and come back to my
[22:56.240 --> 23:04.640] Christian roots. I was raised a Catholic and I had a personal experience where my fiance
[23:08.320 --> 23:12.560] started having seizures one night. We were watching, actually it was the Obama movie.
[23:15.520 --> 23:21.600] It was like an apocalyptic Obama movie, Leave the World Behind, which had to be a foreboding
[23:21.600 --> 23:28.080] title because my girlfriends were watching this. She said, my heart hurts and I don't
[23:28.080 --> 23:35.280] feel right. And I said, maybe it's anxiety from this Obama show. Screw Obama. Let's not watch this.
[23:37.600 --> 23:43.840] And then she just went into seizures and she was extremely healthy. She was extremely,
[23:44.560 --> 23:50.400] there was nothing, no preexisting condition. She just started convulsing and seizing and just
[23:50.400 --> 23:56.640] went a thousand yards stair and stopped breathing. And I'm not a doctor, but I think breathing is
[23:56.640 --> 24:03.840] pretty important. And I didn't know what to do, David. I felt so inadequate and helpless. I had
[24:03.840 --> 24:10.400] no idea what to do. Should I do chest compression? I didn't know what to do except to call 911.
[24:11.200 --> 24:19.520] And I just held her and she was in this state of like a comatose state.
[24:21.040 --> 24:27.440] I didn't know if she was dying. I thought she was dying. And then she came out of it for a brief
[24:27.440 --> 24:36.080] moment with this, from this look of just terror and fear to this calm and this peace came over her.
[24:36.080 --> 24:43.280] And she started laughing. And I started, was this all a joke? But she's not that,
[24:44.160 --> 24:49.440] she's not that kind of person. And she was laughing and her whole face and her whole body was
[24:49.440 --> 24:56.080] just relaxed and she was at a place of peace. And then she clenched back and went back into this
[24:56.080 --> 25:03.040] convulsive state. And I believe like she went to the other side. I believe she was at peace with
[25:03.040 --> 25:12.000] God for a brief period and that it just wasn't her time or she's got sent back or I don't know
[25:12.000 --> 25:15.920] obviously what happened, but it was extraordinary. Does she have any recollection of that?
[25:17.120 --> 25:22.240] None, none of any of it. Your brain doesn't remember that stuff and probably to protect you.
[25:22.880 --> 25:31.920] But it was extraordinary and it reawakened my faith. And that was a year and a half ago. And
[25:32.000 --> 25:36.720] thank God she's healthy now. 75% of the people who go through when she went through,
[25:36.720 --> 25:43.760] it was a brain, brain bleed. 75% of the people die that happens to. So she was in coma. She
[25:43.760 --> 25:51.200] had a long convalescence, but thank God she's on, she's healthy now. And it brought both of us
[25:51.200 --> 26:00.000] closer to God. And it made me want to dedicate my work to the Lord. And every piece I do now is a
[26:00.000 --> 26:08.720] devotion to God. Every stroke of my pen is a meditation and prayer. And I want to lean into
[26:08.720 --> 26:12.960] that as much as I possibly can. That's great. You know, before you came on, we were talking about
[26:12.960 --> 26:19.280] what's going on in Canterbury Cathedral. And that used to be the basis for why people would make
[26:19.280 --> 26:25.600] these elaborate cathedrals was out of a devotion to God and wanting to honor him. And of course,
[26:25.680 --> 26:30.560] depending on what gifts he has given us, we can all have different ways that we can do that.
[26:30.560 --> 26:37.040] And, you know, whatever your job is, you can always do it in a way that you try to honor God.
[26:37.600 --> 26:44.480] And yet, what do you think about, did you see that story where they paid somebody to do graffiti on
[26:44.480 --> 26:54.640] the interior walls of Canterbury Cathedral? Did you see that? Yeah, to me it's worse than graffiti.
[26:54.800 --> 27:00.880] It's vandalism. But, you know, it's so funny because these things that were created in the
[27:00.880 --> 27:05.280] so-called dark ages, they couldn't make those today. And it's because of what you said,
[27:06.320 --> 27:10.720] it's because they weren't doing it for the profit motive, right? They were doing it
[27:12.080 --> 27:19.680] the profit motives, you know, spelled differently. And that's the only way humans can create something
[27:19.680 --> 27:23.840] like that. Your heart and soul has to be in it. I mean, you go into those cathedrals and you feel
[27:23.840 --> 27:30.240] the presence of God. You feel the presence of the highest achievement humanity is capable of.
[27:30.240 --> 27:35.200] And they did it in the so-called dark ages, like with none of the tools and the technology we have.
[27:35.200 --> 27:43.440] That's right. It's astonishing. And just the amount of time and human labor and life force
[27:43.440 --> 27:47.200] and sacrifice and artistry and craftsmanship and skill that went into those things,
[27:48.000 --> 27:51.440] just that alone is enough to uplift your spirit. They're uplifting
[27:52.560 --> 28:00.960] edifices and monuments. And today we have monuments like the 9-11 monument, which is a
[28:01.680 --> 28:08.560] it's a black box. It's a hole. It's like a giant urinal. You go to it's the, you know, that black
[28:08.560 --> 28:16.880] box memorial, and it's just like a spinning sucking hole to hell with no light escapes.
[28:16.880 --> 28:22.320] And it's just, there's nothing uplifting about it. That's right. So you want to jump in and kill
[28:22.320 --> 28:30.000] yourself and be sucked into hell. So that's the feeling I get when I go there. And I think in
[28:30.000 --> 28:37.920] some ways it's appropriate considering that we know what happened there. Yeah. But it's just
[28:38.800 --> 28:44.560] the answer to everything I think is just we had to try to live like saints. I mean, if everybody
[28:44.560 --> 28:51.040] lived to the to the better angels, the whole world would overnight become a better place.
[28:51.040 --> 28:55.920] Everybody's trying to fix going to all these marches and protests and all this nonsense. And
[28:55.920 --> 29:01.600] it's like, fix yourself first. That's right. If you fix and you just just be a good person.
[29:01.600 --> 29:07.520] That's it. Don't lie. Don't cheat. Don't steal. Don't hurt your neighbor. That alone. There'll
[29:07.520 --> 29:12.400] be no more crime, right? Why would there be no crime? Crime is based on a human doing something
[29:12.400 --> 29:18.800] that he knows is sinful and knows is illegal and knows is wrong. So instead of trying to fix the
[29:18.800 --> 29:26.000] world from the outside, you got to fix it inwardly. You know, get closer to God and understand that
[29:27.840 --> 29:33.040] the infinite power and glory of God is not a separate thing from you. It's within you.
[29:33.040 --> 29:43.520] That light is within you and you just need to accept it and let that connection grow
[29:43.520 --> 29:47.840] and become stronger with everything you do. And every good thing you do makes it stronger.
[29:48.400 --> 29:52.000] You feel closer to God from every good thing you do, every good work you make.
[29:53.360 --> 30:01.440] And yeah, it's a very powerful sermon that they actually wound up doing as a lecture as to what
[30:01.440 --> 30:06.720] is wrong with our society, I think. Because when you look at the graffiti, not only did they go
[30:06.720 --> 30:13.920] into a place that was beautiful and uplifting, and they essentially tear it down with their ugly stuff
[30:13.920 --> 30:19.760] that they put on it. And the ugliest thing about what they were putting on there with their graffiti
[30:19.760 --> 30:27.440] was what it actually said. It was a rage against God and his creation, every bit of it. And that's
[30:27.440 --> 30:34.160] really kind of shows us where our society is. So the Church of England is still setting the foundation.
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[31:21.840 --> 31:39.120] For England, it's just setting a satanic foundation that is there.
[31:39.120 --> 31:46.000] Oh, absolutely. That's satanic. I mean, that's a purposeful defilement. It's like putting the cross
[31:46.080 --> 31:51.360] upside down. Like everything they do is an inversion. Like the pentagram, the original
[31:51.360 --> 31:58.160] five-point star was supposed to represent the five wounds of Christ. And so the Satanist inverted it
[31:58.160 --> 32:05.920] and turned it into the pentagram. So those symbols are very important and imagery is important. And
[32:05.920 --> 32:15.600] they know that, and they use it to their satanic purposes. And the defilement of God and dishonoring
[32:15.600 --> 32:25.040] of God. And we see the result. Just look around you. I mean, it's like there's demons everywhere.
[32:25.680 --> 32:33.440] And there are demons in high places and low places. And a society rots from the top down.
[32:33.440 --> 32:40.720] I think it starts with these people who just design these so-called utopias for us, like the
[32:40.720 --> 32:48.240] AI posthuman utopia. I think they hate themselves, the misanthropes, and they project their hatred,
[32:48.800 --> 32:53.920] self-hatred onto humanity. And then if they can destroy humanity, they can somehow destroy the
[32:53.920 --> 32:59.440] parts of themselves that they hate, like in a Jungian shadow sort of. I agree. Yeah. Especially
[32:59.440 --> 33:03.520] when you look at the transgender stuff, the purpose of that is to take very young,
[33:04.480 --> 33:09.200] impressionable people, or maybe even somebody who's an adult and that's very impressionable, like
[33:10.160 --> 33:14.480] Christopher Beck, who was a Navy SEAL that they pushed into becoming a training.
[33:14.480 --> 33:21.520] But it's to train them to hate their body, to hate themselves, and then to engage in self-mutilation.
[33:21.520 --> 33:27.120] And so I think that is truly the satanic aspect of it. Tell us a little bit about your project,
[33:28.560 --> 33:33.840] Jesus Park, that you're working on. You've got a GoFundMe attached to that as well. But tell us
[33:34.480 --> 33:38.560] about that. I think we've got a picture, Lance, that you can show the audience of that.
[33:39.280 --> 33:50.400] So Free Flicker, I just started. Yeah, I had this dream, this vision, David, of this park
[33:52.400 --> 34:03.040] in this beautiful sort of pastoral, natural setting with trees and rocks. And
[34:03.040 --> 34:12.080] I've done a lot of imagery of Christ, and I wanted to create the face of Christ out of all
[34:12.080 --> 34:19.280] natural materials, like his crown of thorns would be actual trees. So the scale would be enormous,
[34:19.280 --> 34:27.280] like his face might take up a half acre or more. But it'll be a place of contemplation, a place of
[34:27.280 --> 34:34.960] prayer, a place of peace. And for me, it'll be a labor of love and a devotion to God.
[34:35.840 --> 34:45.040] And they say it came to me in a dream, a download, and I just feel like I have to make this thing.
[34:46.080 --> 34:56.160] And while I'm still young enough, which might not be much more. So that's what I'm working on right
[34:56.160 --> 35:06.080] now. And I do need some funds to realize it, talking to some churches and to have land and
[35:06.080 --> 35:14.720] trying to find the right spot for it. But I think it would be an incredible lasting
[35:16.480 --> 35:21.520] monument and shrine, really, that I hope that people can enjoy.
[35:22.160 --> 35:26.000] And so you'd be able to see the picture that we got. That'd be like an aerial view
[35:26.000 --> 35:32.560] that people would be able to see. In my vision, you know, I've done models of it. And it's,
[35:33.120 --> 35:37.600] I mean, if it's on a slight slope, you should be able to make out his face from the ground,
[35:38.160 --> 35:42.240] but you won't be able to get the full picture. So maybe, you know, from a drone shot or something
[35:42.240 --> 35:50.320] like that, but you'll be able to see what it is. And it looks great in my dream, you know, now I
[35:50.320 --> 35:56.560] just have to make it real. You haven't got a site for it yet, but are you angling for any particular
[35:56.560 --> 36:02.720] geographical area that would have a large population? Yeah, I live on Long Island,
[36:02.720 --> 36:08.160] and there's this beautiful shrine out on the east end of Long Island called Our Lady of the Island.
[36:08.960 --> 36:15.360] And they have, I think, about a hundred acres of land. And there's a whole 20-foot marble
[36:15.360 --> 36:21.680] sculpture of Mary. There's an outdoor church that I go to there, and it overlooks the Great
[36:21.680 --> 36:28.960] South Bay. It's just an incredible spot, and they have a lot of land there. So I reached out to them.
[36:30.240 --> 36:33.920] I don't know if it's going to work out, but, you know, there's a lot of logistics involved. So
[36:35.280 --> 36:41.280] it's going to take some planning and a little time, but I'm determined. So if I have to,
[36:41.280 --> 36:47.120] at some point, just buy a small piece of land, maybe upstate New York, you can get an expensive
[36:47.120 --> 36:54.560] land. Whatever I have to do, you know, I'm going to make this happen. Yeah, that's great. Well,
[36:54.560 --> 36:59.680] you know, in Tennessee, land is fairly cheap, and they have a lot of unusual sites for people
[36:59.680 --> 37:05.440] to come see. So you might get a lot of traffic there if you put it further south. That's a good
[37:05.440 --> 37:10.080] idea. I don't know much about it, but I'll take it right down to Tennessee. Why not? Yeah, instead
[37:10.080 --> 37:15.760] of people going to see Rock City, they can see the Jesus Park that's there. Where can people find
[37:17.040 --> 37:22.160] the GoFundMe? How do they find that? Well, you can find all of my thought crimes on
[37:22.160 --> 37:29.280] just anthonyfrieda.com, anthonyfrda.com. Like, there's links to all my projects there. Okay,
[37:29.280 --> 37:34.960] good. And your book is not out yet. Is it Thought Crimes of Anthony Frieda? Is that out yet?
[37:35.760 --> 37:41.120] No, that's not. But that was the title was inspired by an actual crime that was
[37:42.720 --> 37:47.200] happening because of my artwork. I did a book cover for CJ Hopkins, who wrote this book,
[37:49.360 --> 37:59.040] The Rise and Fall of the New Normal. And I did a take off of Rise and Fall of the Third Reich,
[37:59.760 --> 38:07.200] that cover. And I put the COVID mask with a swastika barely visible behind the mask,
[38:07.200 --> 38:15.200] the COVID mask. And they decided to charge him for disseminating Nazi propaganda in Germany.
[38:17.680 --> 38:23.120] He was facing like years in prison. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, so that was my book cover.
[38:23.120 --> 38:32.320] And all he did was tweet that cover to get it indicted. So that's a literal crime that I've
[38:32.320 --> 38:37.200] been involved with as an accessory. So you can't use the symbols of the Nazi regime,
[38:37.200 --> 38:44.160] but you can act like Nazis and that's okay, right? No, but it's selectively enforced because,
[38:44.160 --> 38:50.240] you know, there's Stern and magazines in Germany, they'll show Trump in full Hitler regalia all the
[38:50.240 --> 38:56.640] time. That's just, that's fine. And if it's used for the purposes of the left, they get a pass.
[38:57.760 --> 39:03.120] And CJ is not even a right-wing guy. He's just one of these guys who is a skeptic. He questions
[39:03.120 --> 39:11.200] everything. So it's kind of ironic that they're using this illegal subversion of their own laws,
[39:11.760 --> 39:15.040] which is something that Nazis will do to prove that they're not Nazis.
[39:15.360 --> 39:22.720] There's a lot of ironies there, but anyway, he has this ongoing legal battle with them.
[39:22.720 --> 39:28.240] And in Germany, they don't have double jeopardy like we do. So they charged him and he went to
[39:28.240 --> 39:32.080] trial and he was acquitted. And now they're going to charge him again with the same crime.
[39:34.640 --> 39:40.080] They can keep coming until they get the verdict they want. Wow. Wow. And it's not a new incident
[39:40.080 --> 39:45.360] of anything. It's for the same exact thing, right? Well, we just had somebody that was arrested here
[39:45.360 --> 39:52.720] in Tennessee for a meme that he put up and they got him in, you know, two million dollar bond to
[39:52.720 --> 39:58.800] get him out of jail. And again, it was because, and we see this kind of censorship is going on
[39:58.800 --> 40:04.480] both the left and the right. This was about the fact that this guy didn't like Charlie Kirk or
[40:04.480 --> 40:09.040] conservatives. And so there was a school that was going to have an event to honor Charlie Kirk.
[40:09.680 --> 40:15.840] And he put up a meme that he didn't even create that other people had created. It was a picture
[40:15.840 --> 40:21.360] of Trump. And it was a quote about what Trump had said about a school shooting. And it said,
[40:22.080 --> 40:27.200] we got to get over this and move on. And so he put that up as his comment about the Charlie Kirk
[40:27.200 --> 40:33.040] shooting. And because the place that he did it was something at Perry, Idaho or something was where
[40:33.040 --> 40:40.480] the high school was, where the shooting had been. And this was in Perry County. And they said,
[40:40.480 --> 40:45.680] well, you were trying to intimidate people here in Perry County by using this meme that you didn't
[40:45.680 --> 40:52.000] even create. And so the sheriff arrested him for that. Two million dollar bail. We're seeing free
[40:52.000 --> 40:58.800] speech attacked everywhere. Every country, every political philosophy is coming for speech. Because
[40:58.800 --> 41:02.000] especially when we're looking at memes or political commentary like you do,
[41:04.080 --> 41:06.640] it's very, very powerful. They wouldn't be coming after it otherwise.
[41:08.160 --> 41:12.640] Yeah, definitely. Well, I'm pretty certain he's going to win that lawsuit because that's
[41:13.440 --> 41:21.840] outrageous. I'm used to censorship and I've been, I mean, I know you've been through it too, just
[41:21.920 --> 41:30.160] constantly de-platformed and de-monetized and D this and D that. And by the way, everything that
[41:30.160 --> 41:36.320] I was censored for turns out I was right about it. That's right. I was right about all of it.
[41:36.320 --> 41:41.440] Every single thing I said, it was mostly about COVID. And then I'm also fairly certain I was
[41:41.440 --> 41:47.920] put on a domestic terror list because Biden had a list of anyone who questioned the COVID narrative
[41:47.920 --> 41:55.280] was put on a list. And I profile about that. So, I mean, I'm considered a potential violent,
[41:55.280 --> 42:02.400] they use the word violent, potential violent domestic extremist terrorists if you were
[42:02.400 --> 42:08.160] questioning COVID. That's right. Yeah, because they say that, you know, speech is violence.
[42:09.040 --> 42:15.200] And I say no, censorship is violence. And the people who use and enforce censorship are the
[42:15.200 --> 42:19.920] ones who usually do resort to violence in one shape or the other, you know, like arresting this
[42:19.920 --> 42:24.880] guy. The sad thing is, is that you see that both sides of the political spectrum, and I'm talking
[42:24.880 --> 42:30.000] about not just the politicians, I'm talking about the grassroots people are cheering this kind of
[42:30.000 --> 42:36.880] censorship if they don't like what you have to say. We have lost the understanding of the importance
[42:36.880 --> 42:41.280] of free speech in our society. And that includes America, it's not just in Europe, but it's in
[42:41.280 --> 42:48.160] America as well. People don't realize that these tools of tyranny will be used against them
[42:48.800 --> 42:53.760] eventually, and have already been used against them in many cases, and they still are cheering
[42:53.760 --> 42:59.840] this on. It's truly amazing. I don't know how to get around it. Yeah. Oh, no, I've never seen the
[42:59.840 --> 43:06.640] country so divided. There's no room. That's why, you know, the Charlie Kurt thing was so symbolic,
[43:06.640 --> 43:12.800] because if you're not going to talk, you're going to kill each other. And people that it's like,
[43:12.800 --> 43:17.520] because they don't want to talk, they want to kill. And what is that? I mean, if you, I know
[43:17.520 --> 43:21.840] you're a great student of history, like, where does this go? It goes one place, it's called civil
[43:21.840 --> 43:26.000] war. That's where it goes. It's like, this is nothing new. We've seen it thousands of times
[43:26.000 --> 43:33.120] before all throughout history. This, when there's a divide of this extreme nature, where there's no,
[43:33.120 --> 43:37.200] there's no communication, you're either good or evil, you're either with me or against me,
[43:38.480 --> 43:44.560] it leads to civil war. I mean, I don't know how close we are to it, but unless something radically
[43:44.560 --> 43:51.040] changes, which I don't see any evidence of, we're in some perilous times here. I agree. I agree.
[43:51.040 --> 43:56.000] Yeah, we have, we've lost our foundation. You know, we've lost our foundation in terms of
[43:56.000 --> 44:01.120] principles that made the West great. And we've lost our foundation because we turn our back on God.
[44:01.120 --> 44:06.560] That's what we were talking about earlier. And that truly is the foundation as the Lord Jesus
[44:06.560 --> 44:14.320] Christ. And once we turn away from that, we are adrift as a society. And so, even though we used
[44:14.320 --> 44:18.640] to have guns everywhere, now the guns are being turned on each other and being used on us. And
[44:18.640 --> 44:24.880] there's a lot of different aspects to it. I think the heavy use of drugs is a part of that. I think
[44:24.880 --> 44:31.360] that even plays a role actually in the technocrats. I had been told years ago that when these guys
[44:31.360 --> 44:37.280] would go hang out at the Burning Man thing, that they were dropping, you know, LSD and they were
[44:37.280 --> 44:42.240] also taking, what was that, DMT or something, where they come in contact with machine elves.
[44:42.240 --> 44:47.440] And the interesting thing about this is that you hear from the same people who are in different
[44:47.440 --> 44:52.160] geographical areas, they start talking about how they had the same types of encounters.
[44:52.640 --> 44:58.880] And they're channeling technology from these entities that they're coming in contact with.
[44:58.880 --> 45:04.400] And you can have people in radically different places that have the same experiences that are
[45:04.400 --> 45:10.160] there. They even call them psycho-knots. Not nuts, but knots, like an astronaut or something.
[45:10.160 --> 45:16.240] And so, yeah. It's interdimensional travel, I think. I mean, they're opening a portal to
[45:17.200 --> 45:20.560] hell, for lack of a better word. I mean, this tells another dimension heaven.
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[46:20.640 --> 46:26.640] Dimension, our plane is dimension. And those drugs somehow, I don't know how it works,
[46:26.640 --> 46:34.240] I can't even come close to explain it, but it makes the veil between the dimensions permeable.
[46:36.000 --> 46:42.720] And they're able to permeate it with these substances and it's a dark energy and we're
[46:42.720 --> 46:45.600] seeing it and that's connected to the whole way I think we were talking about before.
[46:47.120 --> 46:51.120] And these drugs are facilitating it and you're totally right. But the other thing is when you
[46:51.120 --> 46:57.360] turn away from God, I mean, Deepak Chopra said you leave a God-shaped hole. So what do you fill
[46:57.360 --> 47:04.560] that hole with? Are you going to fill it with drugs or porn or locus or something or Satan?
[47:05.760 --> 47:12.480] It has to be filled because that's part of our human makeup that we have to have something
[47:12.480 --> 47:20.000] to believe in. So if you don't fill it with God, the alternatives are anti-human and they're
[47:20.000 --> 47:24.800] satanic and they're dark. You're taking something that should be filled with light and you're filling
[47:24.800 --> 47:29.440] it with darkness. That's right. Absolutely. Well, you know, it is kind of interesting. I use this
[47:29.440 --> 47:36.000] quite a bit to attack the pharmaceutical companies. I'd call them pharmakia because that's the
[47:36.960 --> 47:42.720] Greek term that's used in the New Testament. Frequently it was translated as sorcery
[47:42.720 --> 47:49.440] because people would include these hallucinogenic drugs as part of their spiritual experience and
[47:49.440 --> 47:55.120] that type of thing. It's a very old thing. But also it talks about how the pharmakia and the great
[47:55.120 --> 47:58.960] men of the world would not repent of their murders. That's how I was using it for the
[47:58.960 --> 48:04.640] pharmaceutical companies and I thought it really fit. But that really is what we're seeing. And
[48:05.600 --> 48:11.120] with all the technology that we've got and all of this idea about how we are so scientific
[48:11.120 --> 48:16.080] and materialistic and we don't believe anything unless we can measure it, well that we have seen
[48:16.080 --> 48:22.000] over and over again is simply not true. The people that we disagree with are more than willing to
[48:22.000 --> 48:27.280] pursue by faith a lot of different things. Whether you're talking about the climate change agenda
[48:27.280 --> 48:34.000] or the pandemic, they accept a lot of stuff on the basis of faith. It's just what they have faith in.
[48:34.080 --> 48:40.080] They have faith in these institutions. They have faith in people who have credentials that say
[48:40.080 --> 48:44.000] that they're a scientist or an authority in something. So it's just a difference in what
[48:44.000 --> 48:49.120] they have faith in. But I think it's very important what you're doing in terms of artwork.
[48:49.120 --> 48:54.960] That gets to people on a different level than just talking to them straight about the facts.
[48:54.960 --> 49:01.360] Whenever we can engage the emotions and art does that and movies do that and Christians are
[49:01.360 --> 49:06.480] starting to learn to use the tools of moviemaking. And so I think there's going to be some
[49:06.480 --> 49:12.080] very important work that is done there. But gradually the Christian movie industry is picking
[49:12.080 --> 49:17.680] up. But I think there's so much that's been lost in terms of artwork that would move people. I
[49:17.680 --> 49:22.960] think that what you're doing is very important. Well, thank you, David. Yeah, speaking of film,
[49:22.960 --> 49:27.280] I started working with a film production company. I think you're right. The answer is to create
[49:27.280 --> 49:36.320] a parallel M&E economy that is in accordance with our values and the values of Western
[49:36.320 --> 49:41.680] civilization and Christendom and things that we have faith in, things that we believe in.
[49:41.680 --> 49:47.360] And a lot of it's been sort of kind of hulky, kitschy stuff up to this point. But we're trying
[49:47.360 --> 49:52.880] to create with Man Alive Media Group, this group I'm working with right now, working on a film
[49:53.120 --> 49:58.960] about World War I. We're going to do a film about Joan of Arc. And we're trying to make them very
[49:58.960 --> 50:04.720] high minded and to the best of our ability, great pieces of art. Because you're right,
[50:04.720 --> 50:11.040] art speaks on a different level than just conversation, different kind of conversation.
[50:11.040 --> 50:18.000] It's like poetry or prose. It's like it's something that engages our mind in a different way
[50:18.000 --> 50:24.880] and hopefully opens up our mind to this conversation. But we have to be able to
[50:24.880 --> 50:31.040] talk. And censorship is the enemy of all of us because then we're not talking. And if we're
[50:31.040 --> 50:37.360] not talking, we're probably shooting each other. That's right. We make peaceful change impossible.
[50:37.360 --> 50:42.400] We make violent change inevitable, as Kennedy said. That's right. And I think it's very important,
[50:42.400 --> 50:47.680] you know, for the longest time, Christians have retreated from the arts and they feel like the
[50:47.680 --> 50:54.080] best way to engage people is with a didactic aspect. And of course there's value in that. But
[50:54.080 --> 50:59.280] there's another way to reach people and that is by showing them, you know, and portraying as a
[50:59.280 --> 51:07.120] narrative. I just talked to the author of Flags of Our Fathers, who's just done a book on Vietnam.
[51:07.120 --> 51:12.640] He spent 10 years in Vietnam talking to people there. And his name was James, was it James
[51:12.640 --> 51:18.240] Bradley? I think it was Bradley or Radley. I'm sorry, I can't remember his last name, but
[51:19.200 --> 51:25.440] very interesting guy. And when he did this book, you know, his previous books were nonfiction,
[51:26.080 --> 51:30.400] but he wanted to do a fictional book because he said there were so many facets and so many
[51:30.400 --> 51:35.600] different things that he had to use fictional characters to bring them together. And so not
[51:35.600 --> 51:41.840] only does it engage our emotions more so if we have a narrative story, but it also allows us to
[51:42.960 --> 51:48.080] pull together the relevant things in a way that we couldn't if we had to stick to exactly what
[51:48.080 --> 51:52.000] the true story was. And Hollywood knows that for the longest time. You go see something that's
[51:52.000 --> 51:55.920] based on a true event, they always change it, always begin. This is based on a true story,
[51:55.920 --> 52:01.520] but the actual characters are fictionalized and so forth. They always do that. And so I think it's
[52:01.520 --> 52:06.240] good, the kind of projects that you mentioned there, we're talking about people living their
[52:06.240 --> 52:12.160] life according to Christian principles. I think that's probably the best way that can be done
[52:12.160 --> 52:17.120] rather than going into the Bible and then fictionalizing that. That always kind of
[52:17.120 --> 52:23.440] rubs me the wrong way. Trying to rewrite it. It doesn't have to be didactic or so
[52:24.240 --> 52:29.920] blatant. Like, I mean, there was great Christian authors, you know, Tolkien and C.S. Lewis,
[52:29.920 --> 52:34.240] and they were they were coming up with their own mythology to sort of mirror
[52:35.040 --> 52:39.840] Christian themes without, you know, saying literally this is Jesus and this is what happened.
[52:39.920 --> 52:46.480] That's right. So, you know, Christianity to me is the myth that's true.
[52:46.480 --> 52:52.320] Yes. But we need to create alternative myths to reinforce that myth, to bring people to us,
[52:52.320 --> 52:58.400] because it's just so boring to just, you know, tell the same story. Even in brilliant filmmakers'
[52:58.400 --> 53:03.920] hands, like it's been done and it's so it's just going to turn a lot of people off. But if you do
[53:03.920 --> 53:10.800] it in a way that's creative and original and interesting and unexpected and entertaining
[53:11.760 --> 53:17.200] and edifying something different, now it's a work of art on its own, not just pastiche and not just
[53:18.000 --> 53:24.080] biblical scripture translated into film. That's right. I remember the film critic Brian Godawa,
[53:24.080 --> 53:31.040] and he actually was able to do a film. I think it was called To End All Wars. I'm not sure about
[53:31.040 --> 53:37.920] that, but it took place at an American soldiers and Japanese prison camp during World War II.
[53:37.920 --> 53:43.680] But his whole idea is that very much like, you know, I think it was C.S. Lewis who said that
[53:43.680 --> 53:48.560] the Christian myth is the greatest myth and it's real. You know, he doesn't mean that it's
[53:48.560 --> 53:55.280] fictional. He just means by myth, he means an epic story. And so that was kind of Brian Godawa's
[53:55.280 --> 54:00.240] take on it. He said, you know, every one of our, really the stories that really resonate with
[54:00.240 --> 54:07.440] people always have a redemptive arc in the story. And he did a really good job with that. And
[54:08.800 --> 54:15.680] he also would kind of draw that out in his film reviews that he did. But that I think is something
[54:15.680 --> 54:20.400] that, you know, we're not going to be able to fight a culture war if we don't have culture,
[54:20.400 --> 54:25.840] someone said. I think that's exactly true, right? I got to steal that line, David.
[54:25.840 --> 54:27.520] We're going in unarmed, right?
[54:29.760 --> 54:34.160] I mean, yeah, it's stating the obvious, but yeah, I mean, we got to listen, you know,
[54:34.800 --> 54:40.400] it's on us, you know. I think it's incumbent upon Christians of people who are means,
[54:40.400 --> 54:43.280] people who are creative, people who have talent or something to give, like,
[54:44.320 --> 54:49.040] put it towards the chorus because the other side certainly is, you know, the Satanists and the
[54:49.040 --> 54:56.880] demons and the world lunatics and the Islamists and the Marxists, like, they're all on board.
[54:56.880 --> 55:00.880] You know, you just watch Netflix and there's messaging in every single thing they do.
[55:00.880 --> 55:01.380] Oh, yeah.
[55:02.160 --> 55:07.920] So anti-Christian, anti-male, anti-white, anti-American, and it's just, I mean,
[55:07.920 --> 55:12.400] it's so ham-fisted, but they shoehorn it into everything. The story does nothing to do with
[55:12.400 --> 55:16.800] what they're talking about, those sheep. You know, white people are bad. What does that have
[55:16.800 --> 55:24.320] to do with the comedy I was watching? So, you know, we could do it more artfully. There's so
[55:24.320 --> 55:28.160] many great artists and writers out there that are Christian, and we need to come together
[55:29.200 --> 55:33.120] and build these teams, and that's what I'm trying to do in my own little way.
[55:33.760 --> 55:39.440] That's great. So best place for people to find out how they can get your book when it's available,
[55:39.440 --> 55:44.640] and also to find out about the Jesus Park if they want to get involved in the GoFundMe.
[55:44.720 --> 55:50.400] We need to go to your website, Anthony Frida, and that is F-R-E-D-A dot com, right?
[55:51.120 --> 55:55.520] Is that the best way for them to find you? Anthony, it's always been great talking to you.
[55:55.520 --> 56:00.800] I only had a chance to meet you once, and that was up at Gerald's event four years ago,
[56:00.800 --> 56:06.240] and his Occupy Peace thing, and so when I saw that you had a book out there, I was like,
[56:06.240 --> 56:10.400] oh yeah, I'd definitely love to talk to Anthony about that. You've got a great story to tell,
[56:10.400 --> 56:15.520] and it's been a great journey that you've been on, and I really want to thank you for the work
[56:15.520 --> 56:20.640] that you have done. It's been very important, and I look forward to a lot more to come from you in
[56:20.640 --> 56:26.320] the future. Thank you so much for joining us. Thank you, David. All right, thank you. Before
[56:26.320 --> 56:32.480] we run out of time, let me get to some of the comments that are up here, and as Lance,
[56:32.480 --> 56:38.240] my producer, said, Jesus used parables and analogies. That's right. So we're following in
[56:38.240 --> 56:44.240] the right way when we use those type of things as well. So one of his favorite ways to get a
[56:44.240 --> 56:50.800] point across was to use a parable, a story about something, and in most cases, I think there was
[56:51.440 --> 56:57.520] at least one or two that were not fictional, but they were all giving a story there.
[56:58.000 --> 57:07.440] And so Crash and Splash 75 says, average lifespan of a lithium miner, 30 years,
[57:08.000 --> 57:15.120] so enjoy your battery. Like a lot of these things, cobalt as well. Cobalt is being dug out of the
[57:15.120 --> 57:23.280] mines by young children operating at slave wages in a situation that kills them. So yeah, that is
[57:23.280 --> 57:29.520] a, we have to understand that's behind a lot of this stuff. Car insurance is now higher to pay
[57:29.520 --> 57:35.360] for than battery burns, says Jolson's. And Gard Goldsmith, good to see you, Gard. Liberty Conspiracy
[57:35.360 --> 57:42.080] says, last year, the very U.S. Government Bureau tasked with promoting EV travel banned EV bikes
[57:42.080 --> 57:47.680] and scooters from being brought into their Colorado building for fear of fire. That's right.
[57:48.480 --> 57:54.640] Jason Barker, Nice of the Storm, good to see you. He says AI is good for memes, but not for real art.
[57:55.520 --> 58:01.440] Meme images and music, and that's really what it does. I mean, a meme just kind of picks up on a
[58:01.440 --> 58:08.400] theme and imitates it, and that's precisely what AI is. But the real danger of AI is not that it's
[58:08.400 --> 58:13.680] going to become some self-aware Skynet thing. I think the real danger is that it is a very
[58:13.680 --> 58:19.120] effective tool for pulling together data and for doing searches and surveillance
[58:19.760 --> 58:24.640] that can be used to control us. That's really where the devil is in that detail.
[58:24.640 --> 58:26.960] Thank you so much for joining us. Have a good day.
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