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[01:07.600 --> 01:10.400]  Joining us now, it's always a pleasure to have Eric on.
[01:10.400 --> 01:12.400]  It's been too long since we talked.
[01:12.400 --> 01:16.600]  Eric Peters of ericpetersautos.com.
[01:16.600 --> 01:22.100]  A real soulmate when it comes to the issues of liberty and
[01:22.100 --> 01:24.300]  mobility, as these companies like to call it.
[01:24.300 --> 01:27.100]  But you know, it's really driving cars is what we think of.
[01:27.100 --> 01:28.400]  We think of mobility.
[01:28.400 --> 01:31.900]  I'm not looking at getting into some self-driving taxi,
[01:31.900 --> 01:34.900]  and I'm not looking at, I don't think of that as mobility.
[01:34.900 --> 01:38.500]  I think of mobility as being able to use a car to go where I want,
[01:38.500 --> 01:42.500]  when I want, and not have to follow a schedule from some mass
[01:42.500 --> 01:48.300]  transportation thing or get into a car that's owned by these corporate conglomerates.
[01:48.300 --> 01:49.900]  But thank you for joining us, Eric.
[01:49.900 --> 01:51.700]  Oh, thank you, David. I always enjoy being here.
[01:51.700 --> 01:53.600]  And by the way, whenever I hear that word mobility,
[01:53.600 --> 01:55.200]  I almost think of people in wheelchairs.
[01:55.200 --> 01:56.400]  I'm a car guy.
[01:56.400 --> 01:58.800]  I enjoy driving and I like cars.
[01:58.800 --> 02:00.400]  Well, they want to break our legs, don't they?
[02:00.400 --> 02:02.400]  I mean, they sure seem to want to.
[02:02.400 --> 02:04.000]  And it's really something, you know,
[02:04.000 --> 02:06.800]  when I think about how this country has changed in that respect,
[02:06.800 --> 02:09.300]  just over the course of the last 40 years, you know,
[02:09.300 --> 02:11.800]  when I was in high school, most guys loved cars.
[02:11.800 --> 02:13.200]  A lot of girls like cars too.
[02:13.200 --> 02:13.800]  That's right.
[02:13.800 --> 02:18.400]  Now, you know, they have succeeded so effectively in alienating people from cars.
[02:18.400 --> 02:19.000]  I get it.
[02:19.000 --> 02:20.800]  You know, they become appliances.
[02:20.800 --> 02:22.400]  They have become soulless.
[02:22.800 --> 02:26.200]  And on top of that, they become just impossibly expensive
[02:26.200 --> 02:28.800]  for ordinary people to even consider buying anymore.
[02:28.800 --> 02:31.800]  So no wonder people are turning off to cars.
[02:31.800 --> 02:34.800]  And that's unfortunate, getting us back to this whole idea of mobility,
[02:34.800 --> 02:37.100]  which really just means, as you said,
[02:37.100 --> 02:40.200]  being able to just go where you want to go without being leashed,
[02:40.200 --> 02:46.400]  you know, without having to take your hat off and beg for it.
[02:46.400 --> 02:49.000]  Yeah, there was a song about that, you know,
[02:49.200 --> 02:51.600]  got to go where you want to go, do what you want to do.
[02:51.600 --> 02:54.600]  Yeah, what happened to that America?
[02:54.600 --> 02:55.800]  Yeah, what happened to that song?
[02:55.800 --> 02:57.000]  We don't hear that anymore.
[02:57.000 --> 03:00.800]  It's kind of like the other thing we used to say when I was younger,
[03:00.800 --> 03:02.900]  people would say, somebody say, well, can I do this?
[03:02.900 --> 03:04.400]  And it's like, hey, it's a free country.
[03:04.400 --> 03:06.600]  You don't hear anybody say that anymore, do you?
[03:06.600 --> 03:10.400]  No, I don't think I've heard anybody say that since probably 9-11.
[03:10.400 --> 03:12.200]  It's been 25 years now.
[03:12.200 --> 03:14.900]  But that's, you know, at least that's a sign of psychological health.
[03:14.900 --> 03:18.700]  At least people aren't so deluded as to think that we still live in a free country.
[03:18.700 --> 03:19.700]  That's right.
[03:19.700 --> 03:23.700]  But they are deluded enough to think that they should make a federal case out of everything.
[03:23.700 --> 03:24.700]  That was the other thing.
[03:24.700 --> 03:26.300]  Hey, don't make a federal case out of it.
[03:26.300 --> 03:28.100]  You know, if somebody's making a big deal out of it.
[03:28.100 --> 03:30.700]  But now we make a federal case out of everything.
[03:30.700 --> 03:35.500]  Every problem must be solved and managed by government.
[03:35.500 --> 03:37.900]  And it has to be done by government at the highest level.
[03:37.900 --> 03:45.300]  And not even that, but now it has to be done by the president who will save us from all evil.
[03:45.300 --> 03:46.900]  It's such a messianic figure.
[03:46.900 --> 03:51.600]  You know, I was just talking yesterday about this article out of the Atlantic.
[03:51.600 --> 03:55.900]  And they were talking about a study that was done by some people out of the UK.
[03:55.900 --> 03:59.200]  They came to the same conclusions that Strauss and Howe did about the Fourth Turning.
[03:59.200 --> 04:01.600]  They went back 5,000 years of history.
[04:01.600 --> 04:06.300]  One of the things they said was, you know, the corruption and the decay in institutions.
[04:06.300 --> 04:10.200]  But also, people start getting very messianic about their leaders.
[04:10.200 --> 04:12.600]  And I thought, yeah, that's what I see all the time about MAGA.
[04:12.600 --> 04:14.200]  You know, it's got to be Trump.
[04:14.200 --> 04:16.500]  He's got some special mission from God.
[04:16.500 --> 04:19.300]  You know, he's specially anointed and all the rest of this stuff.
[04:19.300 --> 04:20.200]  It is truly amazing.
[04:20.200 --> 04:26.300]  They're so desperate for a messiah that they'll even project that onto somebody like Donald Trump.
[04:26.300 --> 04:28.800]  It's crazy.
[04:28.800 --> 04:30.000]  Sometimes it's jaw-dropping.
[04:30.000 --> 04:33.100]  I'm a professional writer, so usually I'm not at a loss for words.
[04:33.100 --> 04:36.800]  But when it comes to Trump, I often find my jaw hitting the floor.
[04:36.800 --> 04:39.100]  My eyes boggle like Cash Patel.
[04:39.100 --> 04:43.300]  And what am I going to even say about this stuff?
[04:43.300 --> 04:45.300]  That's right. It truly is amazing.
[04:45.300 --> 04:54.600]  Well, you told me when we were just connected and you said there's some interesting news about Miata that I don't think I'm going to like.
[04:54.600 --> 04:56.300]  What is that news?
[04:56.300 --> 04:58.000]  Well, just some background.
[04:58.000 --> 05:00.300]  The Miata has been around since 1989.
[05:00.300 --> 05:09.700]  They introduced it as a 90 model and it has been for many decades one of the most successful models that Mazda has ever brought out because anybody who's driven one will tell you.
[05:10.700 --> 05:16.100]  It is one of the most enjoyable, fun cars that you can possibly get and drive.
[05:16.100 --> 05:19.500]  The problem is that it's gotten to be pretty expensive.
[05:19.500 --> 05:23.900]  The current model, 2025, the base price is nearly $30,000.
[05:23.900 --> 05:29.400]  To put that in some perspective, back in 1990, it was just over $13,000.
[05:29.400 --> 05:34.900]  Now granted, some of that is inflation and some of that, of course, are what I call compliance costs.
[05:34.900 --> 05:42.800]  You know, having to have multiple airbags in the things and all of the other stuff that's been added to vehicles that has been raising the costs.
[05:42.800 --> 05:45.200]  People talk about inflation. And of course, that's true.
[05:45.200 --> 05:52.400]  But the thing that's important to understand is that people's earning power hasn't tracked with the devaluation of buying power.
[05:52.400 --> 05:54.100]  That's really what inflation is.
[05:54.100 --> 05:59.500]  So back in 1990, regular Americans could afford to have two cars or even more.
[05:59.500 --> 06:01.900]  They could afford to have the fun car.
[06:01.900 --> 06:05.700]  They get the Miata as the weekend car, the track car, the fun day car.
[06:05.700 --> 06:07.000]  Summer car, yeah.
[06:07.000 --> 06:10.900]  But they also had, you know, you got to have something that has more than two doors and more than two seats.
[06:10.900 --> 06:14.700]  If you've got kids, you've got a family, you're going to need something that's practical.
[06:14.700 --> 06:18.700]  So they would buy the practical car for that purpose, but they'd have the Miata for fun.
[06:18.700 --> 06:24.900]  Well, now things have gotten to be so tight that most people can only afford one car if they can even afford that.
[06:25.000 --> 06:35.800]  So there aren't many people left who can still afford a $30,000 fun car like a Miata and a $30,000 crossover on top of that and the cost of insurance and everything else that goes along with it.
[06:35.800 --> 06:36.800]  So what are they doing?
[06:36.800 --> 06:42.500]  Well, when you're faced with the choice between the practical and the fun, most people are going to have to pick the practical.
[06:42.500 --> 06:44.200]  That's just the way life is.
[06:44.200 --> 06:47.000]  So it's not that the Miata has lost its appeal.
[06:47.000 --> 06:54.200]  The problem is that there are not enough people anymore who can afford it to sustain the car as a viable enterprise for Mazda.
[06:54.200 --> 06:57.500]  And so apparently that's why they're thinking about canceling it.
[06:57.500 --> 06:58.900]  Wow.
[06:58.900 --> 07:06.000]  Well, I got mine as long as the government doesn't find some way to declare it illegal on the streets.
[07:06.000 --> 07:07.000]  I'm okay with it.
[07:07.000 --> 07:08.000]  I do have mine.
[07:08.000 --> 07:10.900]  And from a practical standpoint, there's this, Eric.
[07:10.900 --> 07:16.300]  Groceries have gotten so expensive that about all we can fit in the car will fit in the back of the Miata trunk.
[07:16.300 --> 07:18.300]  It'll accommodate your groceries, won't it?
[07:18.300 --> 07:18.700]  That's right.
[07:18.700 --> 07:21.400]  There's another facet to this that's kind of interesting.
[07:21.400 --> 07:24.200]  An additional rumor is that they're not going to cancel it.
[07:24.200 --> 07:29.000]  But what they're going to do is put a hybrid drivetrain into it for the next generation.
[07:29.000 --> 07:31.100]  The current car has been out since, I think, 2016.
[07:31.100 --> 07:35.400]  So it's getting a little old, you know, in terms of product cycles.
[07:35.400 --> 07:39.000]  And the reason for that is the reason why you're seeing so many hybrid vehicles now.
[07:39.000 --> 07:44.000]  Everything. It used to be that there was the Prius and maybe one or two other hybrid cars on the market.
[07:44.000 --> 07:48.900]  And they were marketed chiefly toward people who really wanted hyper efficiency above everything else.
[07:48.900 --> 07:50.700]  You know, there's a market for that.
[07:50.700 --> 07:53.400]  I wanted to advert your signal about their greenness.
[07:53.400 --> 07:54.200]  That too.
[07:54.200 --> 07:58.400]  But now you may have noticed if you look at the new car landscape, practically everything is hybrid.
[07:58.400 --> 08:02.400]  And now, you know, to some degree or another, it's either a mild hybrid or a full hybrid or something.
[08:02.400 --> 08:09.900]  And the reason for that, of course, has to do with the federal government continuing to require ever stricter mileage and so-called emission standards,
[08:09.900 --> 08:17.500]  which chiefly means carbon dioxide, that awful gas that plants have used to metabolize and produce oxygen for us so that we breathe.
[08:17.500 --> 08:23.900]  Trump, by the way, today is supposedly going to make an announcement about CAFE, the Corporate Average Fuel Economy Standards.
[08:23.900 --> 08:29.800]  And we'll see whether it's any meaningful reduction or simply to kind of riff on Orwell's 1984.
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[10:35.900 --> 10:39.000]  In fact, of course, it has been decreased for weeks.
[10:39.000 --> 10:45.200]  So, you know, what they had been hinting at was that they were going to just roll them back or keep them at where they were in 2020.
[10:45.200 --> 10:52.800]  Well, the reason everything's being hybridized right now is precisely because the only way to comply with the 2020 standards was to build these hybrids,
[10:52.800 --> 10:58.600]  which cycle the engine off as often as possible and put smaller and smaller engines in cars.
[10:58.600 --> 11:03.400]  It's the only way that they can achieve compliance with these federal dictats.
[11:03.400 --> 11:09.000]  So unless we see them actually rolled back significantly or better yet eliminated altogether,
[11:09.000 --> 11:15.800]  I think we're going to see more and more hybrids and we're also going to see fewer and fewer interesting cars like the Miata available for people.
[11:15.800 --> 11:27.000]  Well, in terms of what Trump is doing, anything less than a complete shutdown of the cafe regime is not anything that I would be favorable of or applaud.
[11:27.000 --> 11:31.900]  But if they roll it back a little bit, you know, it'll be pushed back with the next one.
[11:31.900 --> 11:44.200]  What they really need to do is to go back and change the or get rid of Nixon's EPA and take away their power to regulate air pollution.
[11:44.200 --> 11:50.400]  Right. That is the emission standards that need to be that needs to be taken away from the EPA and the EPA needs to be shut down.
[11:50.400 --> 11:53.300]  I mean, let's not just stop with the cafe rules.
[11:53.300 --> 12:03.300]  Let's get rid of the EPA and let's get rid of this finding that they can they can tell us about all these gases because that is a real fraud.
[12:03.300 --> 12:14.600]  We've got EV pollution is being ignored for this fake climate crisis is the headline of a What's Up That.com article.
[12:14.600 --> 12:17.200]  And it's absolutely true. They ignore the pollution from the EVs.
[12:17.200 --> 12:28.000]  But I think the biggest glaring hypocrisy with all of this has in the past been that they would ignore the two biggest polluters on Earth, China and India.
[12:28.000 --> 12:35.700]  They could make as many power plants as they wanted to and continue to make them put no cleaning devices on them whatsoever.
[12:35.700 --> 12:39.100]  And this was supposed to address a global issue.
[12:39.100 --> 12:40.500]  Well, how does that address a global issue?
[12:40.500 --> 12:41.600]  It's nonsense.
[12:41.600 --> 12:47.900]  But now we've had this kind of come home in the sense of the AI data centers.
[12:47.900 --> 12:49.700]  They want to put these AI data centers out there.
[12:49.700 --> 12:53.400]  So they're obviously not interested in emissions anymore.
[12:53.400 --> 12:59.600]  And this has really made outraged a lot of the environmentalists that are out there.
[12:59.600 --> 13:02.600]  But it is just another example of has real hypocrisy.
[13:02.600 --> 13:04.000]  It's not a real problem.
[13:04.000 --> 13:06.000]  It certainly is not existential.
[13:06.000 --> 13:14.200]  And it is if it's in their advantage to do it and it is in their advantage for the AI stuff because that's all about surveillance and control.
[13:14.200 --> 13:15.800]  That is the killer app.
[13:15.800 --> 13:21.200]  And so they're going to do whatever they have to take and they don't care if we own anything.
[13:21.200 --> 13:25.300]  They don't care if we're able to go anywhere and they don't care if we've got any electricity.
[13:25.300 --> 13:27.400]  You know, you and I have said that for the longest time.
[13:27.400 --> 13:30.100]  You know, they they don't even want us to have electric vehicles.
[13:30.100 --> 13:32.400]  They don't want us to have electricity.
[13:32.400 --> 13:34.300]  Nevertheless, you know, own a car.
[13:34.300 --> 13:36.300]  So that's where this stuff is all going.
[13:36.300 --> 13:42.300]  But when we talk about the Miata, that is such a perversion of the whole idea.
[13:42.300 --> 13:47.300]  The whole idea of the Miata was to make it incredibly light and simple.
[13:47.300 --> 13:50.200]  And so a lot of times, you know, people talk about modifying the Miata.
[13:50.200 --> 13:52.700]  I mean, there's a company called Flying Miata.
[13:52.700 --> 13:55.000]  And it's kind of interesting what they do with it.
[13:55.000 --> 14:02.100]  Since it's such a lightweight car, they would shove in a V8 engine into the Miata.
[14:02.100 --> 14:06.900]  And I would read with curiosity about it, but it was something that I never wanted
[14:06.900 --> 14:08.800]  because then you got to get this heavy transmission.
[14:08.800 --> 14:14.900]  And that was one of the nice things about the Miata was how how it shifted and,
[14:14.900 --> 14:18.400]  you know, very responsive and how it could turn on a dime.
[14:18.400 --> 14:23.200]  And it was all really about being a momentum car rather than a zero to 60 car.
[14:23.200 --> 14:28.600]  Right. And so if these people are going to put in there the, you know,
[14:28.600 --> 14:31.600]  all the added weight and all the rest of stuff to make it a hybrid,
[14:31.900 --> 14:37.100]  and to make it complicated, to make it expensive, they might as well cancel it.
[14:37.100 --> 14:40.500]  Well, I agree. And it just speaks to the kind of tone deafness
[14:40.500 --> 14:42.700]  of the people who are running these car companies.
[14:42.700 --> 14:44.800]  You'll see this happening across the industry.
[14:44.800 --> 14:48.300]  For example, the Dodge, the people in charge of Dodge,
[14:48.300 --> 14:51.400]  who thought it would be a fine idea to take the Challenger and the Charger,
[14:51.400 --> 14:55.800]  which were popular cars, sold well, and turn the thing into an EV.
[14:55.800 --> 15:00.600]  And not only an EV, an EV with a base price that was $20,000 higher
[15:00.600 --> 15:02.100]  than the previous gas engine model.
[15:02.100 --> 15:03.400]  And they thought that that would sell.
[15:03.400 --> 15:06.300]  They're showing what I'm trying to get at is that they were showing contempt
[15:06.300 --> 15:07.800]  for their own buyer demographic.
[15:07.800 --> 15:09.800]  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Or Jeep.
[15:09.800 --> 15:10.900]  I'm sure you wear Jeep.
[15:10.900 --> 15:15.200]  You know, Jeep is this French company and they have upscaled the Jeeps
[15:15.200 --> 15:18.500]  so much that nobody can their market can't afford it.
[15:18.500 --> 15:21.400]  People wanted something that was rugged and affordable.
[15:21.400 --> 15:24.100]  And that's the same kind of thing they're doing to the Miata.
[15:24.100 --> 15:28.300]  They don't they don't want to everybody wants to make the exactly the same car
[15:28.300 --> 15:30.800]  and they all want to upscale everything because they understand
[15:30.800 --> 15:32.300]  how expensive cars are getting.
[15:32.300 --> 15:35.100]  And they know that only the really rich can afford this stuff.
[15:35.100 --> 15:37.600]  So it's going to become a plaything for the rich.
[15:37.600 --> 15:40.800]  It probably I don't know if it'll be in my lifetime
[15:40.800 --> 15:43.400]  because I'm getting at the end of it, but probably in your lifetime,
[15:43.400 --> 15:46.600]  you'll probably see the idea that, you know, owning a car
[15:46.600 --> 15:49.000]  is like having a private plane today.
[15:49.000 --> 15:52.300]  Oh, sure. It's going to be a reversion to the early days
[15:52.300 --> 15:55.300]  of the car industry, the car world.
[15:55.300 --> 15:58.500]  If you went back to say about 1905 or so,
[15:58.500 --> 16:02.400]  the only people who owned a car were extremely wealthy people.
[16:02.400 --> 16:04.600]  You know, go watch episodes of Downton Abbey,
[16:04.600 --> 16:07.500]  you know, the BBC show about that era.
[16:07.500 --> 16:10.100]  Or Toad of Toad Hall, right?
[16:10.100 --> 16:12.300]  Yes, because at that time he could afford a car
[16:12.300 --> 16:13.900]  and he didn't really care what the fines were like.
[16:13.900 --> 16:18.600]  He was very much like Elon Musk who opened up his
[16:18.600 --> 16:20.200]  he opened up a couple of businesses.
[16:20.200 --> 16:23.000]  They're not too far from where he used to live in Texas.
[16:23.000 --> 16:26.300]  He had boring and he had, I think it was,
[16:26.300 --> 16:28.100]  I can't remember, maybe it was SpaceX or something,
[16:28.100 --> 16:32.700]  but it was not, it didn't have anything to do with the launching thing.
[16:32.700 --> 16:36.100]  And he was violating all kinds of rules
[16:36.100 --> 16:37.800]  from the Department of Transportation,
[16:37.800 --> 16:41.400]  as well as dumping wastewater directly into the Colorado River.
[16:41.400 --> 16:43.400]  He didn't care. They kept fining him.
[16:43.400 --> 16:45.700]  They gave him the maximum amounts of fines and he didn't care.
[16:45.700 --> 16:47.300]  So they said, well, we need to raise the fines up.
[16:47.300 --> 16:49.500]  He's like, well, you know what, they raised the fines up.
[16:49.500 --> 16:53.100]  It's going to be applied against people who can't afford it.
[16:53.100 --> 16:56.200]  And you're not going to be able to raise the fine up high enough
[16:56.200 --> 17:00.400]  to affect Elon Musk under any circumstances.
[17:00.400 --> 17:02.600]  So he's kind of like Toad of Toad Hall, you know.
[17:02.600 --> 17:05.600]  Right. You know, here's something to kind of explain the point
[17:05.600 --> 17:08.000]  to people who may not be familiar with the history of it.
[17:08.000 --> 17:10.400]  It used to be that when you opened the door of a General Motors vehicle,
[17:10.400 --> 17:12.000]  you would see this little badge on the sill
[17:12.000 --> 17:13.600]  and it would say Body by Fisher.
[17:13.600 --> 17:14.600]  Yeah. Do you remember that?
[17:14.600 --> 17:14.900]  Oh, yeah.
[17:14.900 --> 17:18.000]  And that is something that harkens back to the days
[17:18.000 --> 17:21.100]  of what were called coach built cars before the Model T.
[17:21.100 --> 17:24.600]  This is around the turn of the last century or 1900 or so.
[17:24.600 --> 17:27.300]  If you wanted a car, you went to a coach builder
[17:27.300 --> 17:30.300]  and you would specify what you wanted and it was all custom.
[17:30.300 --> 17:31.700]  Everything was made to order.
[17:31.700 --> 17:35.300]  And obviously only very wealthy people could afford a vehicle like that.
[17:35.300 --> 17:37.400]  So it's a rich man's toy.
[17:37.400 --> 17:39.900]  And, you know, Henry Ford came along and had the effrontery
[17:39.900 --> 17:43.100]  to simplify the thing and to mass produce the thing
[17:43.100 --> 17:45.400]  that had common parts that were stamped out
[17:45.400 --> 17:47.500]  and so that anybody who worked at a Ford plant
[17:47.500 --> 17:51.900]  could afford a car, you know, and for 100 years afterward,
[17:51.900 --> 17:54.400]  people like you and I, regular people, could afford to have a car.
[17:54.400 --> 17:56.900]  Well, they're trying to bring us back to that era
[17:56.900 --> 17:59.400]  when vehicles were luxury items
[17:59.400 --> 18:03.000]  that only the very affluent people in society could afford.
[18:03.000 --> 18:05.500]  It's really despicable and I wanted to mention something else
[18:05.500 --> 18:07.000]  to get back to what you were mentioning before
[18:07.000 --> 18:11.700]  about the whole emissions slash climate control fraud.
[18:11.700 --> 18:15.700]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson and I want to be honest with you for a second
[18:15.800 --> 18:18.700]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[18:18.700 --> 18:22.000]  A couple of years ago, I made the choice to partner
[18:22.000 --> 18:25.700]  with an amazing organization called Compassion International.
[18:25.700 --> 18:29.700]  Why? Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[18:29.700 --> 18:33.000]  It was a nice idea, sure, but I had no idea
[18:33.000 --> 18:37.500]  just how much that simple act would change my life as well.
[18:37.500 --> 18:42.700]  I sponsored Nadia and got to watch her life change right in front of my eyes,
[18:42.700 --> 18:46.200]  going from starving literally alone on the streets
[18:46.200 --> 18:49.100]  to getting the health care and education she needs
[18:49.100 --> 18:52.300]  to reach her God-given full potential.
[18:52.300 --> 18:54.600]  I got to be a part of that change
[18:54.600 --> 18:58.400]  and the light of that compassion not only illuminates in her,
[18:58.400 --> 19:00.500]  it illuminates now in me.
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[19:53.200 --> 19:55.600]  People don't realize that there are EVs
[19:55.600 --> 19:56.600]  that you can get in Europe.
[19:56.600 --> 19:59.100]  I did an article the other day about a little car
[19:59.100 --> 20:00.600]  called the Micro Microlina.
[20:00.600 --> 20:01.800]  Did you happen to catch that?
[20:01.800 --> 20:04.600]  No, I didn't say what the Micro Microlina.
[20:04.600 --> 20:05.900]  It's cute as a button.
[20:05.900 --> 20:07.200]  It's like Boutros Gali.
[20:07.200 --> 20:09.100]  So nice that they named it twice, right?
[20:09.100 --> 20:12.300]  But what it basically is is a small electric car
[20:12.300 --> 20:15.100]  that's essentially, it looks just like the old BMW Isetta.
[20:15.100 --> 20:17.200]  Do you remember the Isetta?
[20:17.200 --> 20:19.500]  Was that the one that opened in the front?
[20:19.500 --> 20:20.800]  Yes, exactly.
[20:20.800 --> 20:23.600]  I've actually set in one of those up in Chicago.
[20:23.600 --> 20:26.900]  They had it as a display in a garment store there.
[20:26.900 --> 20:28.100]  So the same concept.
[20:28.100 --> 20:29.300]  It's just a little EV.
[20:29.300 --> 20:32.300]  It's not designed to go ludicrously fast.
[20:32.300 --> 20:35.700]  It's designed to be an urban, suburban, runabout little car.
[20:35.700 --> 20:37.700]  And it costs about $16,000.
[20:37.700 --> 20:38.900]  Why can't we have that?
[20:39.800 --> 20:41.300]  I attack electric cars all the time,
[20:41.300 --> 20:42.700]  but fundamentally what I'm attacking
[20:42.700 --> 20:44.900]  is the way they're being forced on people
[20:44.900 --> 20:47.100]  and the way alternatives are being taken away from people,
[20:47.100 --> 20:48.600]  not the EV as such.
[20:48.600 --> 20:50.600]  I really don't have a problem with,
[20:50.600 --> 20:53.000]  why can't people buy a $16,000 basic car
[20:53.000 --> 20:55.300]  if they don't need ludicrous speed,
[20:55.300 --> 20:57.900]  they don't need to go on the highway for several hundred miles?
[20:57.900 --> 21:00.900]  And the point is, if it truly is the case
[21:00.900 --> 21:02.900]  that we're facing this existential threat,
[21:02.900 --> 21:04.800]  the climate is changing.
[21:04.800 --> 21:07.600]  We're all gonna die unless we don't drive electric cars.
[21:07.600 --> 21:09.100]  Well, why wouldn't they want to encourage
[21:09.100 --> 21:11.700]  these affordable little electric cars
[21:11.700 --> 21:13.600]  that people could actually buy
[21:13.600 --> 21:15.900]  as opposed to these elitist cars,
[21:15.900 --> 21:17.600]  these EVs that we're allowed to buy
[21:17.600 --> 21:20.200]  $50,000, $60,000 electric cars,
[21:20.200 --> 21:23.100]  but we can't buy the little $16,000 electric car
[21:23.100 --> 21:24.300]  that you can buy in Europe.
[21:24.300 --> 21:28.200]  It just speaks to the disingenuousness of the narrative,
[21:28.200 --> 21:29.600]  the way they're trying to tell you
[21:29.600 --> 21:31.800]  that you have to make this transition
[21:31.800 --> 21:33.000]  because if you don't,
[21:33.000 --> 21:35.100]  we're all gonna die in the climate catastrophe.
[21:35.100 --> 21:36.500]  Well, it's nonsense.
[21:36.500 --> 21:38.000]  If that were true,
[21:38.000 --> 21:39.900]  they'd be doing everything conceivable
[21:39.900 --> 21:43.800]  to encourage these low cost, efficient, simple little cars.
[21:43.800 --> 21:45.300]  That's right. It's just like the pandemic.
[21:45.300 --> 21:46.900]  If they really believed everybody's gonna die,
[21:46.900 --> 21:49.100]  they'd let us try some alternatives to their vaccine.
[21:49.100 --> 21:52.000]  But the plan had been that they were gonna lock us down
[21:52.000 --> 21:53.600]  until they got their vaccine ready
[21:53.600 --> 21:55.300]  and then they were gonna inject everybody
[21:55.300 --> 21:58.800]  and all the companies harmless with what they did.
[21:58.800 --> 22:01.400]  But that was another smoking gun about that fraud.
[22:01.400 --> 22:03.000]  But as you're pointing out,
[22:03.000 --> 22:04.600]  these little things like that,
[22:04.700 --> 22:06.800]  I remember there was also the Messerschmitt.
[22:06.800 --> 22:07.800]  Do you remember that?
[22:07.800 --> 22:10.100]  That was featured in Brazil.
[22:10.100 --> 22:13.000]  That was the car that the character drove in that.
[22:13.000 --> 22:14.400]  I've never seen one of those in person,
[22:14.400 --> 22:17.600]  but I have sat in the BMW Isetta.
[22:17.600 --> 22:18.400]  I've sat in that thing.
[22:18.400 --> 22:21.400]  But these things are basically golf carts.
[22:21.400 --> 22:22.300]  Just own it.
[22:22.300 --> 22:25.200]  And go with the full vibe.
[22:25.200 --> 22:27.000]  Why not?
[22:27.000 --> 22:29.400]  Back when I was in college, I drove a 74 Beetle.
[22:29.400 --> 22:31.000]  Loved the car, but really it wasn't much more
[22:31.000 --> 22:32.100]  than a golf cart.
[22:32.800 --> 22:35.700]  It had trouble maintaining 65 miles an hour
[22:35.700 --> 22:38.100]  on anything that was at all inclined.
[22:40.100 --> 22:42.700]  If you had a downhill stretch and the wind was at your back,
[22:42.700 --> 22:45.500]  you might be able to get up to about 75 miles an hour
[22:45.500 --> 22:46.200]  in a Beetle.
[22:46.200 --> 22:47.300]  It was fine.
[22:47.300 --> 22:48.400]  It was cheap.
[22:48.400 --> 22:51.000]  It allowed me to get on wheels
[22:51.000 --> 22:53.500]  so that I didn't have to walk or take a bus.
[22:53.500 --> 22:56.000]  And that's why I'm kind of so annoyed about the fact
[22:56.000 --> 22:57.500]  that you can't buy new vehicles
[22:57.500 --> 23:01.100]  like that little inexpensive EV that's available in Europe
[23:01.100 --> 23:03.300]  because after all, if that thing were on the market
[23:03.300 --> 23:04.900]  as a used vehicle,
[23:04.900 --> 23:07.900]  it would probably cost only seven or $8,000
[23:07.900 --> 23:10.600]  after a couple of years of depreciation.
[23:10.600 --> 23:12.600]  And imagine you're an 18-year-old kid
[23:12.600 --> 23:13.900]  and you don't have a lot of money,
[23:13.900 --> 23:15.700]  but you'd like to have a car.
[23:15.700 --> 23:19.300]  So here's a car that would work as your first car.
[23:19.300 --> 23:22.100]  And my point is we're being denied all these alternatives.
[23:22.100 --> 23:25.400]  It's no longer the case that the market responds
[23:25.400 --> 23:26.800]  to what people want.
[23:26.800 --> 23:28.300]  That's right.
[23:28.300 --> 23:30.000]  It's what the government demands
[23:30.000 --> 23:31.700]  and it's one size fits all.
[23:31.700 --> 23:33.600]  And that's why you hear everybody complaining
[23:33.600 --> 23:34.500]  about, oh, they all look the same.
[23:34.500 --> 23:35.900]  Well, there's a reason for that.
[23:35.900 --> 23:37.100]  The reason they all look the same
[23:37.100 --> 23:38.500]  is because they all have to comply
[23:38.500 --> 23:40.400]  with the same government demands.
[23:40.400 --> 23:41.200]  That's right.
[23:41.200 --> 23:43.800]  Yeah, you remember I grew up in Florida.
[23:43.800 --> 23:46.500]  And so the Volkswagen that I aspired to have
[23:46.500 --> 23:48.100]  was the dune buggy.
[23:48.100 --> 23:50.700]  I didn't care if that was practical or not.
[23:50.700 --> 23:53.600]  And then really doubled down with a Thomas Crown affair
[23:53.600 --> 23:56.000]  that had Steve McQueen driving one of those.
[23:56.000 --> 23:56.400]  Remember that?
[23:56.400 --> 23:58.600]  I forget what the company was that put those in.
[23:58.600 --> 23:59.400]  We just called them.
[23:59.400 --> 24:01.400]  Yeah, that's right, the Manx.
[24:01.400 --> 24:03.900]  And we just called them dune buggies for that.
[24:03.900 --> 24:06.400]  But Karen's first car was a Pinto.
[24:06.400 --> 24:08.200]  And that was another example.
[24:08.200 --> 24:13.600]  I remember you talk about how that was your rite of passage.
[24:13.600 --> 24:15.600]  That was how you knew you were an adult
[24:15.600 --> 24:17.500]  and how you now had freedom.
[24:17.500 --> 24:19.000]  It was having the wheels, right?
[24:19.000 --> 24:21.500]  And so I remember scrutinizing the stuff
[24:21.500 --> 24:24.000]  and figuring out how much I would have to work in order
[24:24.200 --> 24:29.500]  to save up and buy a Pinto before I was able to drive.
[24:29.500 --> 24:30.700]  Because they were very cheap.
[24:30.700 --> 24:34.000]  I remember they were like $1,400 or something new.
[24:34.000 --> 24:35.800]  It was incredible how cheap they were.
[24:35.800 --> 24:38.700]  Of course, the dollar was, I had a lot more purchasing power
[24:38.700 --> 24:39.700]  than it does now.
[24:39.700 --> 24:43.700]  But Karen got one of those.
[24:43.700 --> 24:47.200]  It had rubber mats, not carpet.
[24:47.200 --> 24:49.700]  Of course, hand-cranked windows and all that kind of stuff.
[24:49.700 --> 24:54.500]  The trunk was so thin that when you dropped the trunk,
[24:54.500 --> 24:56.600]  it didn't have a hatchback on hers.
[24:56.600 --> 24:59.400]  But it had a little small trunk that was maybe
[24:59.400 --> 25:02.300]  about a foot wide or a foot deep.
[25:02.300 --> 25:05.700]  And when you dropped it, it just shook.
[25:05.700 --> 25:06.700]  It was such thin metal.
[25:06.700 --> 25:09.800]  And of course, they were infamous for exploding
[25:09.800 --> 25:11.800]  when they were hit in the back.
[25:11.800 --> 25:14.000]  But they cut every corner that they could,
[25:14.000 --> 25:16.500]  including the safety equipment to keep it from exploding
[25:16.500 --> 25:17.700]  when it was hit in the back.
[25:17.700 --> 25:20.200]  But it was what she needed.
[25:20.200 --> 25:22.000]  And she was able to get one used.
[25:22.000 --> 25:25.400]  And fortunately for her, before anything happened,
[25:25.400 --> 25:27.700]  if she had an accident, somebody stole it from her.
[25:27.700 --> 25:28.700]  We were all laughing about it.
[25:28.700 --> 25:30.000]  It's like, who would steal this thing?
[25:30.000 --> 25:34.900]  Not only was it that, but she had a slow leak in her radiator.
[25:34.900 --> 25:37.400]  And I was going to fix it over the weekend.
[25:37.400 --> 25:38.800]  But it was like Thursday.
[25:38.800 --> 25:41.200]  She goes out to get in the car, and she's
[25:41.200 --> 25:42.700]  got her water jug with her that she's
[25:42.700 --> 25:45.000]  going to top it up with before she goes to work.
[25:45.000 --> 25:48.500]  And the car was gone.
[25:48.500 --> 25:50.500]  She called me up and she said, you
[25:50.500 --> 25:52.000]  didn't bring me home last night, right?
[25:52.000 --> 25:53.000]  I drove home last night.
[25:53.000 --> 25:54.200]  He's like, yeah, that's right.
[25:54.200 --> 25:55.300]  She goes, my car is gone.
[25:55.300 --> 25:58.500]  It took us a while to actually pinch ourselves and to wake
[25:58.500 --> 26:01.800]  ourselves up to the fact that somebody had stolen the thing.
[26:01.800 --> 26:03.300]  He was like, who would steal this?
[26:03.300 --> 26:05.100]  And everybody jokes that you leave it
[26:05.100 --> 26:07.500]  running with the keys in the car in a bad neighborhood
[26:07.500 --> 26:09.000]  or something to get this to happen.
[26:09.000 --> 26:11.000]  But it was transportation.
[26:11.000 --> 26:12.500]  And sometimes that's what you need.
[26:12.500 --> 26:15.200]  And they don't want us to have that anymore.
[26:15.200 --> 26:15.700]  Yeah, no.
[26:15.700 --> 26:16.600]  Everybody needs that.
[26:16.600 --> 26:18.700]  You know, Leona Koko, who was at Ford at the time
[26:18.700 --> 26:21.100]  and who was responsible for the Pinto,
[26:21.100 --> 26:24.700]  decreed that it would be kept under $2,000, brand new.
[26:24.700 --> 26:27.100]  And they managed to do that.
[26:27.100 --> 26:27.800]  Think about that.
[26:27.800 --> 26:28.300]  Imagine that.
[26:28.300 --> 26:30.600]  A brand new car, now granted inflation and everything,
[26:30.600 --> 26:34.000]  but still $2,000 for a brand new car, meaning that five
[26:34.000 --> 26:37.300]  or six years down the road, cars like that were abundant
[26:37.300 --> 26:40.600]  on the used car market for kids who didn't have a lot of money.
[26:41.100 --> 26:42.800]  Just like you, when I was that age,
[26:42.800 --> 26:44.700]  when I was in high school, I saved the money
[26:44.700 --> 26:47.100]  that I earned from cutting grass and shoveling snow
[26:47.100 --> 26:49.800]  and all that other stuff and my McDonald's after school money
[26:49.800 --> 26:52.100]  so I could buy a car.
[26:52.100 --> 26:55.300]  Everybody knows that today it's almost impossible for a teenager
[26:55.300 --> 26:57.200]  to work a part-time job or cut grass
[26:57.200 --> 27:00.100]  and be able to afford anything as far as a car goes
[27:00.100 --> 27:01.600]  because they're so expensive.
[27:01.600 --> 27:03.100]  And that's really tragic.
[27:03.100 --> 27:04.200]  It's really sad.
[27:04.200 --> 27:06.100]  And it's hurting not just teenagers
[27:06.100 --> 27:08.000]  who are trying to become adults, but people
[27:08.000 --> 27:09.800]  on the lower end of the economic spectrum.
[27:09.800 --> 27:10.800]  They're limited.
[27:10.800 --> 27:11.800]  Their options are limited.
[27:11.800 --> 27:14.200]  It's not just about, hey, I want to go for a joy ride.
[27:14.200 --> 27:17.100]  If you can't drive to work, your work options are limited.
[27:17.100 --> 27:20.100]  If you can only go wherever the bus goes,
[27:20.100 --> 27:22.200]  where the train goes, that means you can only
[27:22.200 --> 27:23.400]  get certain kinds of jobs.
[27:23.400 --> 27:24.200]  And it probably means you're going
[27:24.200 --> 27:25.400]  to have to live in an urban area.
[27:25.400 --> 27:26.000]  But guess what?
[27:26.000 --> 27:28.200]  Everything's more expensive in the urban area
[27:28.200 --> 27:29.900]  than it is farther out.
[27:29.900 --> 27:32.900]  So really, it's a kind of an assault on the...
[27:32.900 --> 27:34.300]  It's ironic, isn't it?
[27:34.300 --> 27:36.400]  We've heard from the Democrats in the left for years
[27:36.400 --> 27:39.100]  about the plight of the working man and the average guy.
[27:39.100 --> 27:40.600]  Well, the average guy and the working men
[27:40.600 --> 27:43.000]  are the ones who are most being harmed by these things.
[27:43.000 --> 27:46.300]  And now it's leached out farther and it's metastasized.
[27:46.300 --> 27:48.400]  And it's beginning to make it very difficult
[27:48.400 --> 27:51.900]  for middle class people to have the standard of living
[27:51.900 --> 27:55.200]  that so-called working class people had 50 years ago.
[27:55.200 --> 27:56.300]  I agree, yeah.
[27:56.300 --> 28:01.100]  And it's like, what is their end game with all this stuff?
[28:01.100 --> 28:02.600]  Is it just to kill us all?
[28:02.600 --> 28:03.500]  Or what is it?
[28:03.500 --> 28:05.400]  Because it doesn't make any sense
[28:05.400 --> 28:08.800]  that they keep taking everything away from everybody.
[28:08.800 --> 28:10.600]  They want to take away our jobs and so forth
[28:10.600 --> 28:12.300]  and put us on universal basic income.
[28:12.300 --> 28:13.600]  You know, what is the end game with that?
[28:13.600 --> 28:16.300]  It is so antithetical to what Henry Ford was about.
[28:16.300 --> 28:18.200]  As he said, you know, we're going to make the cars
[28:18.200 --> 28:21.300]  cheap enough that the people who work on the assembly line
[28:21.300 --> 28:23.700]  manufacture them can afford to have one.
[28:23.700 --> 28:26.600]  And so, you know, what is the end game for the people?
[28:26.600 --> 28:28.400]  They really do hate us.
[28:28.400 --> 28:30.300]  It's this concentration.
[28:30.300 --> 28:32.600]  And that was the other aspect that these people noticed
[28:32.600 --> 28:35.000]  going back over 5,000 years.
[28:35.100 --> 28:40.200]  The frustration and the lack of the sense of control
[28:40.200 --> 28:42.300]  of your own life, no opportunity,
[28:42.300 --> 28:43.500]  and all the rest of this stuff,
[28:43.500 --> 28:47.100]  which is precisely what the agenda is for the technocracy
[28:47.100 --> 28:49.700]  and the people who are around Trump that, you know,
[28:49.700 --> 28:53.100]  Peter Thiel and these Curtis Yarvin types,
[28:53.100 --> 28:58.400]  they want a society that's going to be libertarian for them
[28:58.400 --> 29:00.100]  and authoritarian for us.
[29:00.100 --> 29:01.900]  And that's what they're pushing to.
[29:01.900 --> 29:03.400]  And it's like, how do you think
[29:03.400 --> 29:04.900]  that that's going to be sustainable?
[29:04.900 --> 29:08.100]  People have never put up with that in history.
[29:08.100 --> 29:10.400]  So, you know, they may be able to put it in
[29:10.400 --> 29:11.200]  for a short period of time,
[29:11.200 --> 29:13.500]  but I don't think it was going to last.
[29:13.500 --> 29:15.100]  Yeah, psychologically, it's very interesting.
[29:15.100 --> 29:17.600]  I think part of it is kind of a pathological thing.
[29:17.600 --> 29:18.500]  It is.
[29:18.500 --> 29:23.000]  Some people, it's not enough to have generational wealth,
[29:23.000 --> 29:24.900]  you know, to have enough money not only for themselves
[29:24.900 --> 29:28.900]  to live without any care whatsoever about financial worries.
[29:28.900 --> 29:31.300]  Their kids and their kids' kids are going to be
[29:31.300 --> 29:32.600]  completely taken care of.
[29:32.600 --> 29:34.000]  It's never enough.
[29:34.000 --> 29:35.200]  How many billions do you need?
[29:35.200 --> 29:36.600]  Elon Musk's net worth is what,
[29:36.600 --> 29:39.100]  60 billion or something crazy like that?
[29:39.100 --> 29:41.300]  I think it's more than that, yeah.
[29:41.300 --> 29:42.400]  And it's still not enough.
[29:42.400 --> 29:43.200]  They need more.
[29:43.200 --> 29:44.400]  You know, it's not enough to have a yacht.
[29:44.400 --> 29:46.300]  You have to have two yachts.
[29:46.300 --> 29:48.600]  Then you have to have a private jet.
[29:48.600 --> 29:49.500]  Then you have to have four.
[29:49.500 --> 29:50.300]  The biggest yacht.
[29:50.300 --> 29:53.000]  You got to have the bigger than the billionaire next door.
[29:53.000 --> 29:54.400]  Yeah, and so that, you know,
[29:54.400 --> 29:56.600]  it's almost as if there's an element of sadism in it.
[29:56.600 --> 29:58.700]  It's not that, oh, I've got something really nice.
[29:58.700 --> 30:02.300]  I've got, you know, I've got a Daimler Maybach,
[30:02.300 --> 30:05.200]  but my neighbor, my God, that guy has a Chevy Suburban.
[30:05.200 --> 30:06.100]  The guy down, you know,
[30:06.100 --> 30:08.100]  the guy who cuts grass has a Chevy Suburban.
[30:08.100 --> 30:09.700]  I don't want him to have that.
[30:09.700 --> 30:11.300]  That's somehow a diminishment that, you know,
[30:11.300 --> 30:13.800]  I feel it's only, it's only,
[30:13.800 --> 30:16.900]  I only feel good if I'm the only one who has something nice.
[30:16.900 --> 30:18.900]  I think that's part of psychologically
[30:18.900 --> 30:20.500]  what's motivating all of this.
[30:20.500 --> 30:21.400]  That's right.
[30:21.400 --> 30:22.800]  I think you're absolutely right.
[30:22.800 --> 30:24.900]  That's one of the reasons why they buy things like a Maybach
[30:24.900 --> 30:26.500]  because I'm the only one who's got a Maybach, right?
[30:26.500 --> 30:30.300]  Or they buy a dress or a purse that costs $4,000
[30:30.300 --> 30:34.600]  or $8,000 or something, you know, it's that exclusivity.
[30:34.600 --> 30:36.800]  And then there's only so far that you can go
[30:36.800 --> 30:40.300]  with that exclusivity until it's necessary for you
[30:40.300 --> 30:42.700]  to exclude stuff from other people.
[30:42.700 --> 30:45.600]  And that's really where this is all headed, I agree.
[30:45.600 --> 30:48.200]  It is really a kind of a sickness that's there,
[30:48.200 --> 30:50.000]  but we've always seen that.
[30:50.000 --> 30:52.900]  It's an addiction that these people have to money, right?
[30:52.900 --> 30:55.700]  The love of money, it becomes like a drug to them.
[30:55.700 --> 30:57.000]  It really does.
[30:57.000 --> 30:58.300]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson,
[30:58.300 --> 31:01.000]  and I want to be honest with you for a second
[31:01.000 --> 31:03.900]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[31:03.900 --> 31:05.000]  A couple of years ago,
[31:05.000 --> 31:09.100]  I made the choice to partner with an amazing organization
[31:09.100 --> 31:10.900]  called Compassion International.
[31:10.900 --> 31:11.800]  Why?
[31:11.800 --> 31:15.000]  Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[31:15.000 --> 31:16.900]  It was a nice idea, sure,
[31:16.900 --> 31:20.600]  but I had no idea just how much that simple act
[31:20.600 --> 31:22.700]  would change my life as well.
[31:22.700 --> 31:25.800]  I sponsored Nadia and got to watch her life
[31:25.800 --> 31:27.900]  change right in front of my eyes,
[31:27.900 --> 31:31.500]  going from starving literally alone on the streets
[31:31.500 --> 31:33.600]  to getting the healthcare and education
[31:33.600 --> 31:37.600]  she needs to reach her God-given full potential.
[31:37.600 --> 31:39.800]  I got to be a part of that change,
[31:39.800 --> 31:41.700]  and the light of that compassion
[31:41.700 --> 31:43.700]  not only illuminates in her,
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[31:45.800 --> 31:48.400]  That is the power of compassion.
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[32:38.200 --> 32:39.700]  There's another interesting aspect of this
[32:39.700 --> 32:42.500]  if I might elaborate just a touch.
[32:42.500 --> 32:44.900]  Because it's almost a cartoon indictment of capitalism,
[32:44.900 --> 32:46.300]  but it's not capitalism
[32:46.300 --> 32:47.800]  because almost all of these people
[32:47.800 --> 32:48.900]  and in almost every case,
[32:48.900 --> 32:51.100]  they are acquiring their wealth through government.
[32:51.100 --> 32:52.000]  That's right.
[32:52.000 --> 32:53.900]  First thing we talked about when I had you on
[32:53.900 --> 32:57.000]  was your article about Elon Musk being the king
[32:57.000 --> 32:58.600]  of crony capitalism.
[32:58.600 --> 33:00.100]  That was more than a decade ago
[33:00.100 --> 33:01.500]  when we first talked about that.
[33:01.500 --> 33:04.900]  And that, as you pointed out, was how he got his wealth.
[33:04.900 --> 33:06.200]  I said that earlier in the program.
[33:06.200 --> 33:08.400]  I said, you know, you look at this
[33:08.400 --> 33:09.900]  and so many times you see people
[33:09.900 --> 33:13.400]  who are libertarian or conservative
[33:13.400 --> 33:15.800]  and they want to champion businesses
[33:15.800 --> 33:18.000]  and say business can do nothing wrong
[33:18.000 --> 33:19.900]  and government can do nothing right.
[33:19.900 --> 33:22.400]  And then the Democrats are the other way, right?
[33:22.400 --> 33:24.100]  Government can do nothing wrong.
[33:24.100 --> 33:27.000]  Businesses and private companies can do nothing right.
[33:27.000 --> 33:29.000]  The reality is that they've merged
[33:29.000 --> 33:31.400]  and that's what makes it all so evil.
[33:31.400 --> 33:32.800]  And they don't see that.
[33:32.800 --> 33:35.400]  You know, they imagine that we've got a free market
[33:35.400 --> 33:36.600]  or that we have capitalism,
[33:36.600 --> 33:38.200]  but it's not that at all.
[33:38.200 --> 33:41.900]  It's this kind of mixture that we see in China
[33:41.900 --> 33:43.700]  and we recognize it in China,
[33:43.700 --> 33:45.100]  how they come in and say,
[33:45.100 --> 33:46.700]  well, you're gonna have to give us a piece of that,
[33:46.700 --> 33:50.000]  but we're seeing that in spades now with Trump.
[33:50.100 --> 33:53.200]  You know, he's using, taking over,
[33:53.200 --> 33:55.300]  buying a share of Intel
[33:55.300 --> 33:58.300]  and using government money to start,
[33:58.300 --> 34:00.600]  you know, acquiring assets to own it.
[34:00.600 --> 34:05.000]  I mean, that is socialism, Marxism, central planning,
[34:05.000 --> 34:07.900]  all the things that Republicans used to oppose,
[34:07.900 --> 34:10.400]  they now applaud because Trump is doing it.
[34:10.400 --> 34:12.000]  Yeah, they've so poisoned the well
[34:12.000 --> 34:15.200]  and in addition to that, younger Americans in particular
[34:15.200 --> 34:16.600]  don't know their own history.
[34:16.600 --> 34:17.440]  That's right.
[34:17.440 --> 34:19.600]  Now, Henry Ford can be considered a capitalist.
[34:19.600 --> 34:22.400]  Henry Ford figured out a way to make a better mousetrap
[34:22.400 --> 34:25.300]  and he didn't use the government at all
[34:25.300 --> 34:26.900]  to subsidize his business.
[34:26.900 --> 34:29.500]  What he did was to make a product that people could afford
[34:29.500 --> 34:32.600]  and a very interesting thing about Ford
[34:32.600 --> 34:35.400]  was that the Model T got progressively less expensive
[34:35.400 --> 34:38.500]  with each model year because he would fine tune it,
[34:38.500 --> 34:40.000]  figure out ways to make it cost less
[34:40.000 --> 34:41.300]  and he was able to scale things up
[34:41.300 --> 34:42.600]  and he sold more of them
[34:42.600 --> 34:44.100]  so he could make more on volume
[34:44.100 --> 34:46.100]  than on individual unit sales.
[34:46.100 --> 34:47.100]  Yeah.
[34:47.100 --> 34:49.200]  You know, it was such a boon for average people
[34:49.200 --> 34:51.400]  because it liberated them from the yoke
[34:51.400 --> 34:54.800]  of having to be tied to an urban area, to a city.
[34:54.800 --> 34:57.000]  A farmer could buy a Ford Model T
[34:57.000 --> 34:58.200]  and he could use it as a tractor.
[34:58.200 --> 34:59.800]  You know, they made it to be modular.
[34:59.800 --> 35:01.900]  So, you know, you could have it out on the farm
[35:01.900 --> 35:04.000]  and gasoline, of course, was portable.
[35:04.000 --> 35:06.100]  So even in the time before there were gas stations,
[35:06.100 --> 35:09.200]  you could bring gas to where there wasn't any gas
[35:09.200 --> 35:12.400]  and, you know, we've taken this for granted as a civilization,
[35:12.400 --> 35:15.000]  this idea that we can just go where we want to go.
[35:15.000 --> 35:17.100]  That was not the case once.
[35:17.200 --> 35:19.400]  You know, it was almost kind of a feudal order
[35:19.400 --> 35:22.800]  where you were stuck where you were by circumstances.
[35:22.800 --> 35:23.800]  Yeah.
[35:23.800 --> 35:26.400]  And, you know, the dawn of that age changed that
[35:26.400 --> 35:28.600]  and now we're reverting back to that age
[35:28.600 --> 35:29.900]  and we're being dragged back into it
[35:29.900 --> 35:31.900]  because most people just don't appreciate
[35:31.900 --> 35:33.400]  just how good we had it
[35:33.400 --> 35:35.300]  and they might once it's all gone.
[35:35.300 --> 35:36.600]  That's right. That's right.
[35:36.600 --> 35:37.800]  Well, you know, a lot of this comes
[35:37.800 --> 35:39.700]  and I've mentioned many times
[35:39.700 --> 35:42.100]  there was an op-ed piece that really dropped my jaw
[35:42.100 --> 35:45.300]  when I saw it by the CEO of Lyft.
[35:45.300 --> 35:46.100]  I can't remember his name.
[35:46.100 --> 35:48.200]  I don't know if he's still the CEO,
[35:48.200 --> 35:52.300]  but the guy had been an urban planner by education
[35:52.300 --> 35:54.500]  and so he loved cities
[35:54.500 --> 35:57.100]  and he said cities are the best invention of mankind
[35:57.100 --> 35:59.500]  and cars are the worst invention
[35:59.500 --> 36:04.300]  and I thought this is just so upside down and backwards.
[36:04.300 --> 36:06.600]  Nobody agrees with that in reality
[36:06.600 --> 36:09.700]  because the reason that we have suburbs
[36:09.700 --> 36:12.500]  and the reason that we have what these urban planners
[36:12.500 --> 36:15.200]  derisively call urban sprawl
[36:15.200 --> 36:16.800]  is because people don't like living
[36:16.800 --> 36:18.800]  all pressed up against each other
[36:18.800 --> 36:21.000]  and they're willing to spend time and money
[36:21.000 --> 36:22.800]  so they can get more space around them,
[36:22.800 --> 36:24.000]  but they hate that
[36:24.000 --> 36:26.800]  because these urban planners are all about control
[36:26.800 --> 36:29.000]  and when you look at Lyft
[36:29.000 --> 36:30.500]  and you look at Uber, you know,
[36:30.500 --> 36:32.800]  they were all about owning
[36:32.800 --> 36:35.500]  all of the transportation privately, right,
[36:35.500 --> 36:40.200]  and making it kind of a fascist run system
[36:40.200 --> 36:41.800]  not directly owned by the government
[36:41.800 --> 36:43.600]  as if they would own all the buses
[36:43.600 --> 36:47.000]  and the rails and subways like that,
[36:47.000 --> 36:50.200]  but the fact that they would partner with government
[36:50.200 --> 36:50.900]  to make sure, you know,
[36:50.900 --> 36:52.600]  they do whatever government wants them to do.
[36:52.600 --> 36:54.100]  If the government tells them
[36:54.100 --> 36:56.400]  that David Knight can't ride anywhere,
[36:56.400 --> 36:58.200]  they would enforce that for them
[36:58.200 --> 36:59.700]  and so they're all about that
[36:59.700 --> 37:02.100]  and that kind of a partnership that we see there
[37:02.100 --> 37:04.000]  and they're all about getting rid of,
[37:04.000 --> 37:07.000]  as Travis Kalanick of Uber used to say,
[37:07.000 --> 37:09.300]  the reason our rides are expensive
[37:09.300 --> 37:12.300]  is because of that other dude in the car.
[37:12.400 --> 37:14.000]  We're going to get rid of that other dude in the car.
[37:14.000 --> 37:15.500]  We're going to have self-driving cars.
[37:15.500 --> 37:16.800]  That's where we want to go.
[37:16.800 --> 37:18.400]  So who's going to be able to afford
[37:18.400 --> 37:20.900]  to drive in these things, right?
[37:20.900 --> 37:23.100]  Because it's not just one sector
[37:23.100 --> 37:25.200]  with artificial intelligence or robotics or anything.
[37:25.200 --> 37:28.100]  They're going for every sector all at once.
[37:28.100 --> 37:29.200]  They're trying to reduce.
[37:29.200 --> 37:31.600]  There's an MIT report
[37:31.600 --> 37:33.500]  saying that they could get rid of,
[37:33.500 --> 37:36.500]  I forget how many tens of millions of jobs,
[37:36.500 --> 37:37.300]  but it was massive.
[37:37.300 --> 37:39.100]  It was like maybe 20 million jobs or something.
[37:39.100 --> 37:41.700]  We think we can replace 20 million jobs right now with AI
[37:41.700 --> 37:43.600]  if we get really serious about this
[37:43.600 --> 37:45.700]  and we build the data centers.
[37:45.700 --> 37:46.600]  Well, they'd love to do that
[37:46.600 --> 37:48.100]  because it'll increase their profit margin,
[37:48.100 --> 37:49.800]  it'll reduce their healthcare costs.
[37:49.800 --> 37:51.000]  Something else though, you know,
[37:51.000 --> 37:53.300]  you mentioned how this guy, the Lyft guy,
[37:53.300 --> 37:54.800]  says that cities are bad.
[37:56.500 --> 37:57.800]  Cities are good.
[37:57.800 --> 37:59.100]  But cities are good.
[37:59.100 --> 38:01.400]  It's an unconscious confession.
[38:01.400 --> 38:03.600]  His subjective value,
[38:03.600 --> 38:06.600]  he personally thinks that cities are great
[38:06.600 --> 38:11.200]  and he personally thinks that it's bad to not live in them.
[38:11.200 --> 38:12.600]  And doesn't even appreciate
[38:12.600 --> 38:14.600]  that other people might have a different point of view.
[38:14.600 --> 38:16.300]  And if they have a different point of view,
[38:16.300 --> 38:18.000]  you know, theirs should be stomped.
[38:18.000 --> 38:19.000]  They shouldn't be allowed
[38:19.000 --> 38:20.500]  to have their different point of view.
[38:20.500 --> 38:24.800]  That's the mentality of the people that we're dealing with.
[38:24.800 --> 38:25.900]  They can't live and let live.
[38:25.900 --> 38:28.200]  They can't say, okay, I've got a point of view.
[38:28.200 --> 38:30.200]  I like living in an urban hive.
[38:30.200 --> 38:32.500]  I like living in an apartment.
[38:32.500 --> 38:33.800]  You go ahead and live in the country,
[38:33.800 --> 38:35.300]  you have the ability if you want to.
[38:35.300 --> 38:36.300]  They can't do that.
[38:36.300 --> 38:39.100]  That whole American idea that we used to have
[38:39.100 --> 38:40.300]  of live and let live.
[38:40.300 --> 38:42.500]  We have different strokes for different folks.
[38:42.500 --> 38:44.000]  It's just being exterminated
[38:44.000 --> 38:47.000]  by this arrogant one size fits all.
[38:47.000 --> 38:49.200]  Everybody's gonna do the same thing mentality.
[38:49.200 --> 38:50.100]  I agree.
[38:50.100 --> 38:51.500]  Yeah, I like EVs.
[38:51.500 --> 38:53.600]  So you're going to use an EV, right?
[38:53.600 --> 38:55.000]  I'm gonna demand that you use it.
[38:55.000 --> 38:57.200]  There's not gonna be any other exception.
[38:57.200 --> 38:59.400]  Yeah, I've got a couple of comments here.
[39:00.600 --> 39:01.400]  Birdhouse Blue says,
[39:01.400 --> 39:03.300]  I don't even recognize the cars today.
[39:03.300 --> 39:04.400]  They all look the same.
[39:04.400 --> 39:05.600]  That's absolutely right.
[39:06.600 --> 39:07.800]  And that's not by accident.
[39:07.800 --> 39:09.600]  The reason they all look the same
[39:09.700 --> 39:11.700]  is because they all have to comply
[39:11.700 --> 39:13.300]  with the same federal regulations
[39:13.300 --> 39:16.900]  and that greatly limits the ability of designers
[39:16.900 --> 39:18.900]  to come up with anything different.
[39:18.900 --> 39:20.700]  It's kind of like the best way to understand it.
[39:20.700 --> 39:21.500]  If you follow
[39:23.000 --> 39:23.900]  cop racing,
[39:23.900 --> 39:25.200]  they literally have this template.
[39:25.200 --> 39:28.200]  It's this thing that they put over the body of the car.
[39:29.400 --> 39:31.200]  The car has to be within those parameters
[39:31.200 --> 39:33.300]  in order to be legal to use on the track.
[39:33.300 --> 39:35.900]  So that's why the NASCAR cars all look the same.
[39:35.900 --> 39:38.000]  No matter whether it says Toyota or Ford or whatever,
[39:38.000 --> 39:39.300]  they all look the same.
[39:39.600 --> 39:41.700]  And that's the reason why when you go to a car showroom,
[39:41.700 --> 39:43.500]  pretty much all the cars
[39:43.500 --> 39:45.800]  look like they got stamped out of the same factory
[39:45.800 --> 39:47.600]  and a different badge got put on the fender.
[39:47.600 --> 39:48.400]  Yeah.
[39:48.400 --> 39:49.500]  Yeah, he also has a comment.
[39:49.500 --> 39:50.800]  He says, cars used to have character.
[39:50.800 --> 39:52.700]  You know, you're talking about that.
[39:52.700 --> 39:54.800]  That reminds me of the Superbird
[39:54.800 --> 39:57.400]  and I think it was Richard Petty that did that.
[39:57.400 --> 39:58.300]  I remember that it had,
[39:58.300 --> 39:59.900]  and they actually sold that for consumers.
[39:59.900 --> 40:02.300]  I had a friend of mine in high school.
[40:02.300 --> 40:05.800]  His dad bought him a Roadrunner Superbird
[40:05.800 --> 40:08.500]  and had that long extension on the front
[40:08.500 --> 40:10.400]  and it had like the spoiler on the back
[40:10.400 --> 40:13.300]  that was like five feet above the trunk and everything.
[40:13.300 --> 40:16.200]  It was crazy that he was driving this around on the road,
[40:16.200 --> 40:17.500]  but he could do it, you know.
[40:17.500 --> 40:19.200]  And it was a 200 mile an hour car.
[40:19.200 --> 40:20.300]  Yeah.
[40:20.300 --> 40:22.500]  And the really cool thing about stock car racing
[40:22.500 --> 40:24.800]  and those things is that they literally were stock cars
[40:24.800 --> 40:27.000]  in the sense that they took a production car,
[40:27.000 --> 40:29.700]  you know, and they turned it into a race car.
[40:29.700 --> 40:33.100]  Now the cars that you see on a NASCAR circuit,
[40:33.100 --> 40:35.200]  they're all the same tube frame chassis underneath
[40:35.200 --> 40:37.600]  with this skin on the top
[40:37.600 --> 40:39.700]  that's supposed to vaguely kind of remind you
[40:39.700 --> 40:41.300]  of a Ford or a,
[40:41.300 --> 40:44.200]  it's not anything at all remotely like a car
[40:44.200 --> 40:46.700]  that you can buy at the dealership.
[40:46.700 --> 40:48.500]  Whereas back in the day, like your friend did,
[40:48.500 --> 40:50.700]  you could buy basically Richard Petty's car.
[40:50.700 --> 40:51.700]  Yeah.
[40:51.700 --> 40:53.200]  A version of Richard Petty's car.
[40:53.200 --> 40:54.700]  And that's why people have plants.
[40:54.700 --> 40:55.800]  You know, and they used to say, you know,
[40:55.800 --> 40:57.100]  went on Sunday, sell on Monday.
[40:57.100 --> 40:59.400]  And it was true because, you know, you went to the race
[40:59.400 --> 41:00.900]  and if you were a Chevy guy
[41:00.900 --> 41:03.200]  and you watched the Chevy win the race or a Dodge guy,
[41:03.200 --> 41:04.900]  whatever, you were happy about that
[41:04.900 --> 41:06.800]  and you wanted to be associated with that.
[41:06.800 --> 41:08.500]  So you went and bought that car
[41:08.500 --> 41:09.500]  because you thought it was a winner
[41:09.500 --> 41:11.500]  because it won the race and there was truth in that.
[41:11.500 --> 41:12.500]  Yeah.
[41:12.500 --> 41:14.400]  Now, you know, motorsports, at least as far as NASCAR goes,
[41:14.400 --> 41:15.900]  I know I'm going to get some hate for this,
[41:15.900 --> 41:18.200]  but I consider it to be the World Wrestling Federation
[41:18.200 --> 41:19.900]  of Motorsports.
[41:19.900 --> 41:21.400]  That's a good way to put it.
[41:21.400 --> 41:23.100]  That's funny.
[41:23.100 --> 41:25.400]  Well, I'll tell you, every time I see John in his car,
[41:25.400 --> 41:27.000]  you know, he was really nice guy.
[41:27.000 --> 41:28.200]  And the funny thing about it,
[41:28.200 --> 41:30.600]  he was not the kind of guy that would show off
[41:30.600 --> 41:32.100]  and he didn't do that with anything else.
[41:32.100 --> 41:33.300]  And he was actually,
[41:33.300 --> 41:35.300]  I always felt that he was embarrassed
[41:35.300 --> 41:36.800]  when people noticed his car.
[41:36.800 --> 41:38.800]  It's like, yeah, my dad bought it for me.
[41:38.800 --> 41:40.300]  But it was so out of character.
[41:40.300 --> 41:41.600]  It was amazing.
[41:41.600 --> 41:45.000]  Those cars, those Daytona Superbirds,
[41:45.000 --> 41:48.200]  those cars now are hundreds of thousands of dollars
[41:48.200 --> 41:49.700]  if you want to buy one now.
[41:49.700 --> 41:51.900]  Back in the day when they were available to the dealers,
[41:51.900 --> 41:53.100]  they couldn't sell them.
[41:53.100 --> 41:54.300]  A lot of times they would sit on the lot
[41:54.300 --> 41:56.500]  and they would eventually get fire sold to somebody
[41:56.500 --> 41:58.500]  for a budget price because, like your friend,
[41:58.500 --> 42:00.800]  people felt a little awkward driving around in this thing
[42:00.800 --> 42:02.800]  with this huge wing on the back
[42:02.800 --> 42:04.700]  and that bullet nose that it had on the front.
[42:04.800 --> 42:06.300]  Yeah, yeah, extended it.
[42:06.300 --> 42:08.600]  It was like, yeah, how are you going to park that anywhere?
[42:08.600 --> 42:10.000]  I assume that you didn't use that
[42:10.000 --> 42:12.500]  for your parallel parking driving test.
[42:14.200 --> 42:16.000]  It would never fit in the parking space.
[42:16.000 --> 42:17.200]  It was crazy.
[42:17.200 --> 42:20.300]  And it was always a lot of fun to see him.
[42:20.300 --> 42:21.300]  And I hope he didn't wreck it.
[42:21.300 --> 42:24.100]  Maybe if he kept it, he's going to have a lot of money
[42:24.100 --> 42:25.200]  now he could get for that.
[42:25.200 --> 42:28.100]  But yeah, as a Burnhouse Blue also says,
[42:28.100 --> 42:30.400]  I used to buy many used cars for 500 or less
[42:30.400 --> 42:32.500]  back in the 80s even.
[42:32.500 --> 42:33.400]  That's true.
[42:33.700 --> 42:34.900]  But let's talk a little bit about,
[42:34.900 --> 42:37.700]  you got an article that just came out this week,
[42:37.700 --> 42:39.900]  a solution for a created problem.
[42:39.900 --> 42:40.700]  Tell us about that.
[42:40.700 --> 42:41.500]  Oh, yeah.
[42:41.500 --> 42:43.700]  Well, we all have experienced the frustration
[42:43.700 --> 42:45.600]  of sitting at a traffic light
[42:45.600 --> 42:47.600]  and the light in front of us goes green.
[42:47.600 --> 42:49.400]  And as soon as you cross the intersection up ahead,
[42:49.400 --> 42:51.500]  there's another light and it just went red.
[42:51.500 --> 42:52.300]  Oh, yeah.
[42:52.300 --> 42:55.000]  And so, signal timing, it's a problem.
[42:55.000 --> 42:56.800]  But it's a problem that's easily remedied
[42:56.800 --> 42:58.200]  by timing the signals.
[42:58.200 --> 43:00.600]  So that generally speaking on a given stretch of road,
[43:00.600 --> 43:02.400]  most of the lights will go green,
[43:02.400 --> 43:05.100]  sequentially in order so that the traffic can flow.
[43:05.100 --> 43:07.700]  Well, instead of just doing it the simple way now,
[43:07.700 --> 43:09.500]  one of these tech bro companies
[43:09.500 --> 43:11.300]  associated with the University of Michigan
[43:11.300 --> 43:13.100]  has proposed the fine idea
[43:13.100 --> 43:15.900]  of collating and collecting data
[43:15.900 --> 43:17.400]  being transmitted from your car,
[43:17.400 --> 43:19.300]  your GPS data and other data
[43:19.300 --> 43:22.400]  so that the system recognizes how many cars
[43:22.400 --> 43:24.300]  are on a given stretch of road at a given time,
[43:24.300 --> 43:25.500]  how fast they're moving,
[43:25.500 --> 43:28.400]  and they can use AI to coordinate the lights.
[43:28.400 --> 43:31.100]  Of course, really what this is about again,
[43:31.100 --> 43:34.200]  is monitoring you, collecting data about you.
[43:34.200 --> 43:37.800]  They swear up and down on a stack of brave new worlds
[43:37.800 --> 43:40.500]  that it's anonymized data, but of course it's not.
[43:40.500 --> 43:43.300]  It's only anonymized because they choose it to be anonymized.
[43:43.300 --> 43:45.500]  All of this is tied particularly to your car.
[43:45.500 --> 43:47.900]  People don't realize, most people don't know
[43:47.900 --> 43:51.300]  that pretty much all cars made within the last 10 or 15 years
[43:51.300 --> 43:53.100]  have what they call telematics,
[43:53.100 --> 43:55.700]  which means that they are constantly in communication
[43:55.700 --> 43:58.500]  with the hive, I call it the hive.
[43:58.500 --> 44:00.700]  They're receiving updates, they're transmitting this,
[44:01.000 --> 44:05.200]  and you have no consent and no ability to thwart that.
[44:05.200 --> 44:07.800]  And it's quite remarkable that there hasn't been more outreach
[44:07.800 --> 44:09.500]  as far as, at least as far as I'm concerned.
[44:09.500 --> 44:13.200]  I don't like the idea of my car being like my cell phone
[44:13.200 --> 44:16.300]  in that it is controlled by some corporate entity somewhere
[44:16.300 --> 44:18.900]  that can decide that it wants to update it,
[44:18.900 --> 44:21.800]  i.e. change it, or that it can use this device
[44:21.800 --> 44:24.400]  to track my movements, not because I'm a criminal,
[44:24.400 --> 44:27.600]  but because I don't want people knowing where I'm going.
[44:27.600 --> 44:28.600]  It's reasonable.
[44:28.600 --> 44:31.800]  I don't feel like I ought to have an ankle bracelet on
[44:31.800 --> 44:34.100]  unless I've actually been convicted of a crime.
[44:34.100 --> 44:35.100]  That's right.
[44:35.100 --> 44:37.100]  There was an interesting thing reported
[44:37.100 --> 44:38.800]  on the last couple of weeks.
[44:38.800 --> 44:41.100]  And there was a guy who was pushing back
[44:41.100 --> 44:45.300]  against a bunch of statists who were pushing
[44:45.300 --> 44:47.400]  for some new safety devices or something
[44:47.400 --> 44:49.800]  to be made mandatory on cars.
[44:49.800 --> 44:54.600]  And this is a guy who, before he became a politician,
[44:54.600 --> 44:55.900]  he used to sell cars.
[44:55.900 --> 44:58.800]  And so he decided he would go around and see
[44:58.800 --> 45:02.100]  if these people actually had bought these safety devices
[45:02.100 --> 45:03.400]  that were optional on their car.
[45:03.400 --> 45:06.900]  So he went around and got their VIN numbers for their cars,
[45:06.900 --> 45:09.500]  looked it up, and found out that these people
[45:09.500 --> 45:11.700]  who were saying you absolutely have to have this stuff
[45:11.700 --> 45:15.000]  had declined paying for it when they had the option to
[45:15.000 --> 45:16.300]  and were going to use their money.
[45:16.300 --> 45:19.100]  So he said, so now you're going to force everybody
[45:19.100 --> 45:21.200]  to buy what you chose not to buy
[45:21.200 --> 45:23.300]  when you had the opportunity to do it.
[45:23.300 --> 45:24.700]  And their reaction to it was like,
[45:24.700 --> 45:29.300]  how dare you get my VIN number and look this stuff up?
[45:29.300 --> 45:30.700]  You violated my privacy.
[45:30.700 --> 45:34.000]  And this is the most hypocritical thing
[45:34.000 --> 45:34.800]  you can imagine.
[45:34.800 --> 45:36.900]  These are the people who are spying on us
[45:36.900 --> 45:38.600]  with everything, as you point out, in our car
[45:38.600 --> 45:39.300]  and all the rest of it.
[45:39.300 --> 45:42.500]  But of course, there's also the massive flock network
[45:42.500 --> 45:45.700]  of cameras that are out there doing automated license plate
[45:45.700 --> 45:48.500]  readings, and not just the license plate,
[45:48.500 --> 45:52.400]  but they are creating an ID profile of your car
[45:52.400 --> 45:54.600]  looking at the idiosyncrasies of it.
[45:54.600 --> 45:57.900]  Does it have a dent on the side or a scratch or this or that?
[45:57.900 --> 46:01.600]  And tracking that, literally tracking it
[46:01.600 --> 46:03.200]  for law enforcement all the time,
[46:03.200 --> 46:04.800]  and doing that as a contract.
[46:04.800 --> 46:06.600]  And that is exploding.
[46:06.600 --> 46:10.800]  That's a kind of public-private tyranny
[46:10.800 --> 46:12.400]  that we see over and over again.
[46:12.400 --> 46:16.100]  And I thought it was just the most amazing.
[46:16.100 --> 46:20.200]  I played that clip within the last couple of weeks.
[46:20.200 --> 46:22.800]  And the attitude of these people,
[46:22.800 --> 46:27.000]  how dare you do this when they are mandating stuff for people
[46:27.000 --> 46:29.900]  and they are spying on people all the time.
[46:29.900 --> 46:32.400]  It's really interesting to me that this
[46:32.400 --> 46:34.500]  gets us into the subject of the driver assistance
[46:34.500 --> 46:37.700]  technology, which is related to it.
[46:37.700 --> 46:41.100]  Why is it that it is made standard equipment now
[46:41.100 --> 46:44.400]  in every vehicle, even though the overwhelming majority
[46:44.400 --> 46:46.400]  of people do not want this?
[46:46.400 --> 46:49.300]  I can't tell you how many times I get emails and comments
[46:49.300 --> 46:51.000]  whenever I do shows like yours.
[46:51.000 --> 46:54.300]  People say, you know, I despise being parented by my car.
[46:54.300 --> 46:56.700]  I don't like lane-keep assistance.
[46:56.700 --> 46:57.900]  I don't like any of that.
[46:57.900 --> 46:59.100]  I want to turn it off.
[46:59.100 --> 47:00.300]  You can't turn it off anymore.
[47:00.300 --> 47:01.900]  All you can do is turn it down.
[47:01.900 --> 47:04.600]  And it's interesting that these manufacturers who you think
[47:04.600 --> 47:06.300]  would not want to alienate their customers,
[47:06.300 --> 47:08.100]  why would you put something in a vehicle
[47:08.100 --> 47:10.000]  that most people don't want?
[47:10.000 --> 47:11.300]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[47:11.300 --> 47:14.000]  And I want to be honest with you for a second
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.900]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[47:16.900 --> 47:19.100]  A couple of years ago, I made the choice
[47:19.200 --> 47:22.100]  to partner with an amazing organization
[47:22.100 --> 47:24.000]  called Compassion International.
[47:24.000 --> 47:24.800]  Why?
[47:24.800 --> 47:28.000]  Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[47:28.000 --> 47:31.200]  It was a nice idea, sure, but I had no idea
[47:31.200 --> 47:35.700]  just how much that simple act would change my life as well.
[47:35.700 --> 47:38.800]  I sponsored Nadia and got to watch her life
[47:38.800 --> 47:40.900]  change right in front of my eyes,
[47:40.900 --> 47:44.500]  going from starving literally alone on the streets
[47:44.500 --> 47:46.600]  to getting the health care and education
[47:46.600 --> 47:50.500]  she needs to reach her God-given full potential.
[47:50.500 --> 47:52.800]  I got to be a part of that change.
[47:52.800 --> 47:56.600]  And the light of that compassion not only illuminates in her,
[47:56.600 --> 47:58.700]  it illuminates now in me.
[47:58.700 --> 48:01.300]  That is the power of compassion.
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[48:50.400 --> 48:52.700]  Yeah, well, it's because they want it.
[48:52.700 --> 48:56.100]  And then the question is beg, well, why do they want it?
[48:56.100 --> 48:58.600]  And I think the reason is because there's just gradually
[48:58.600 --> 49:01.600]  piece by piece putting together this system
[49:01.600 --> 49:03.500]  in which you will have no control over your car
[49:03.500 --> 49:06.100]  beyond what they want you to have.
[49:06.100 --> 49:09.900]  So the minute that you go outside the parameters of that,
[49:09.900 --> 49:11.200]  you know, the car will correct you
[49:11.200 --> 49:13.700]  and it may get to the point where it just shuts off
[49:13.700 --> 49:15.400]  or it doesn't operate at all
[49:15.400 --> 49:19.200]  if you don't operate it within the allowable parameters.
[49:19.200 --> 49:20.900]  And at that point we might as well just all sign up
[49:20.900 --> 49:23.700]  for a Johnny cab, which is ultimately
[49:23.700 --> 49:25.100]  I think what they really do want.
[49:25.100 --> 49:26.000]  It is, it is.
[49:26.000 --> 49:29.300]  And that's why these car companies have been partnerships
[49:29.300 --> 49:31.100]  in a partnership with government
[49:31.100 --> 49:33.600]  to add all these expensive add-ons
[49:33.600 --> 49:35.800]  and all these things that people don't want
[49:35.800 --> 49:38.100]  because it drives the price of the car up
[49:38.100 --> 49:39.800]  and they can charge people for that.
[49:40.700 --> 49:43.300]  But the problem is, is that they've kind of, you know,
[49:43.300 --> 49:45.700]  one thing that Vladimir Lenin got right
[49:45.700 --> 49:47.600]  was he said the capitalist will sell the rope
[49:47.600 --> 49:49.000]  that's used to hang them.
[49:49.000 --> 49:53.400]  And that's what's being used to hang these guys now is,
[49:53.400 --> 49:56.100]  you know, they've sold all these safety device ropes
[49:56.100 --> 50:00.200]  to rope you in and now their cars are so expensive
[50:00.200 --> 50:01.100]  people can't afford it.
[50:01.100 --> 50:03.700]  But then of course the solution to that
[50:03.700 --> 50:06.900]  is to get even more into a relationship
[50:06.900 --> 50:08.600]  and a partnership with the government
[50:08.600 --> 50:11.900]  so that they are the providers with this mobility stuff
[50:11.900 --> 50:14.800]  that's going to be privately owned
[50:14.800 --> 50:17.600]  but will be heavily controlled
[50:17.600 --> 50:19.400]  and there'll be a, you know,
[50:19.400 --> 50:21.600]  the government will tell them what to do.
[50:21.600 --> 50:23.000]  And of course you'll have the politicians
[50:23.000 --> 50:25.000]  who will get to wet their beak.
[50:25.000 --> 50:26.700]  As the mafia people say,
[50:26.700 --> 50:28.200]  it's basically how this is gonna operate.
[50:28.200 --> 50:29.900]  It's gonna be the Chinese model.
[50:29.900 --> 50:31.400]  That's why they opened up China, you know,
[50:31.400 --> 50:32.300]  for this type of stuff.
[50:32.300 --> 50:34.800]  Inevitably to speak to your point about
[50:34.800 --> 50:36.200]  not seeing their own self-interest,
[50:36.200 --> 50:37.800]  there will have to be a win-win
[50:37.800 --> 50:39.000]  of the number of manufacturers
[50:39.000 --> 50:40.600]  because it just doesn't make sense
[50:40.600 --> 50:43.700]  to have as many manufacturers as there still are
[50:43.700 --> 50:45.600]  producing essentially the same thing.
[50:45.600 --> 50:47.100]  Why not consolidate everything
[50:47.100 --> 50:48.500]  kind of like they did in the Soviet Union
[50:48.500 --> 50:50.600]  where you could get a lot of maybe
[50:50.600 --> 50:52.400]  after, you know, after 15 or 20 years
[50:52.400 --> 50:56.100]  on a waiting list, it's gonna be, or Trabant.
[50:56.100 --> 50:57.600]  You know, those were your choices
[50:57.600 --> 50:59.200]  back in the old Soviet days.
[50:59.200 --> 51:01.500]  And ultimately I see something like that happening.
[51:01.500 --> 51:04.700]  You know, Philip Dick, the great sci-fi writer foresaw this.
[51:04.700 --> 51:06.100]  If you read his novel, Blade Runner,
[51:06.100 --> 51:08.200]  if you don't get into it, or the novel is
[51:08.200 --> 51:10.200]  Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?
[51:10.200 --> 51:11.400]  The movie Blade Runner is the one
[51:11.400 --> 51:13.100]  that people are more familiar with.
[51:13.100 --> 51:15.300]  But in the novel, everything is controlled
[51:15.300 --> 51:18.200]  by what's called the Turrell Corporation, everything.
[51:18.200 --> 51:20.300]  It's sort of like, you know, the Amazon of our time.
[51:20.300 --> 51:22.700]  It's just this, every single consumer good
[51:22.700 --> 51:25.400]  is made and manufactured by this one
[51:25.400 --> 51:28.500]  pyramidal structured massive corporation
[51:28.500 --> 51:29.900]  that controls everything.
[51:29.900 --> 51:31.300]  You know, and you wrote that book
[51:31.300 --> 51:33.000]  decades and decades and decades ago,
[51:33.000 --> 51:35.500]  and here we are, you know, very prescient
[51:35.500 --> 51:37.300]  in the way it foresaw, you know,
[51:37.300 --> 51:41.500]  what corporatism would turn capitalism into.
[51:41.500 --> 51:43.400]  All these dystopian novels have become
[51:43.400 --> 51:46.300]  a manual for these people, I think.
[51:46.300 --> 51:48.600]  Yeah, you talk about, you'd wait for decades for that.
[51:48.600 --> 51:50.700]  That was one of the best Ronald Reagan jokes
[51:50.700 --> 51:52.700]  basically in Russia, right?
[51:52.700 --> 51:55.000]  The guy orders, I don't know if it was a car,
[51:55.000 --> 51:56.800]  let's just say it was a washing machine.
[51:56.800 --> 51:59.900]  And he goes, we'll have that for you in 10 years.
[51:59.900 --> 52:02.800]  And the guy says, afternoon or morning?
[52:03.800 --> 52:05.800]  And he says, why do you ask?
[52:05.800 --> 52:06.600]  It's 10 years from now.
[52:06.600 --> 52:08.600]  He goes, well, because I've got the dishwasher
[52:08.600 --> 52:10.600]  coming in the morning 10 years from now.
[52:13.000 --> 52:14.200]  It's funny, but it's sad.
[52:14.200 --> 52:15.400]  Yeah.
[52:15.400 --> 52:16.700]  Because those of us who can remember
[52:16.700 --> 52:18.900]  the way America used to be, you know,
[52:18.900 --> 52:21.700]  never thought America would become like the Soviet Union.
[52:21.700 --> 52:22.600]  That's right.
[52:22.600 --> 52:24.400]  And yet, we're rapidly on our way
[52:24.400 --> 52:26.100]  to becoming exactly that.
[52:26.100 --> 52:28.200]  Well, you know, it's even to the extent
[52:28.200 --> 52:32.700]  that you've got a lot of these conservative influencers
[52:32.700 --> 52:35.800]  and again, these are not people who are researchers
[52:35.800 --> 52:37.300]  and not reporters and not journalists.
[52:37.300 --> 52:39.100]  They are influencers.
[52:39.100 --> 52:40.300]  That ought to tell you something,
[52:40.300 --> 52:42.800]  but they're out there trying to rehabilitate
[52:42.800 --> 52:44.500]  Richard Nixon of all people,
[52:45.900 --> 52:48.400]  our 55 mile an hour guy who created the EPA
[52:48.400 --> 52:50.500]  and so many other issues out there.
[52:50.500 --> 52:52.000]  And he opened us up to China
[52:52.000 --> 52:53.400]  and he set us down on this path.
[52:53.400 --> 52:56.100]  And I said, you know, think about it conservatives,
[52:56.100 --> 52:58.000]  if you like Richard Nixon,
[52:58.000 --> 52:59.600]  you got to like Henry Kissinger,
[52:59.600 --> 53:01.800]  Mr. Globalism himself, you know.
[53:01.900 --> 53:05.400]  But it's amazing how this has all, you know,
[53:05.400 --> 53:08.700]  it's a long-term plan that they've been operating on.
[53:08.700 --> 53:10.900]  You know, with regard to what we talked about
[53:10.900 --> 53:12.300]  at the beginning of the interview,
[53:12.300 --> 53:14.300]  the federal fuel economy standards,
[53:14.300 --> 53:16.700]  you know, I think it's the best way to challenge that
[53:16.700 --> 53:19.100]  is to say, why is the government involved in that at all?
[53:19.100 --> 53:20.000]  Yeah, that's right.
[53:20.000 --> 53:22.400]  I mean, what business is it of the government
[53:22.400 --> 53:25.100]  to decree to you or I, how many miles per gallon
[53:25.100 --> 53:28.100]  a vehicle that we choose to buy with our own money
[53:28.100 --> 53:29.400]  must get?
[53:29.400 --> 53:30.800]  Where's that in the constitution
[53:30.800 --> 53:32.400]  and where is the authority for the EPA
[53:32.400 --> 53:33.800]  in the constitution, right?
[53:33.800 --> 53:35.500]  And it's based on a fatuity.
[53:35.500 --> 53:37.200]  You know, the argument is that if the government
[53:37.200 --> 53:39.700]  weren't doing this, then the mean old automakers
[53:39.700 --> 53:42.200]  would make nothing but gas guzzling cars
[53:42.200 --> 53:43.800]  and we'd all be at the mercy of big oil.
[53:43.800 --> 53:44.900]  It's nonsense.
[53:44.900 --> 53:47.800]  Before Cafe came along in the early 70s,
[53:47.800 --> 53:51.000]  there were plenty of fuel efficient cars available.
[53:51.000 --> 53:52.300]  So it's a lie.
[53:52.300 --> 53:54.700]  And you know, these mandates that are coming out,
[53:54.700 --> 53:56.800]  the Cafe thing costs you money.
[53:56.800 --> 53:58.700]  Yeah, your car gets 35 miles per gallon,
[53:58.700 --> 54:01.200]  but it also costs $40,000 now.
[54:01.200 --> 54:03.400]  So you're really not saving any money
[54:03.400 --> 54:05.700]  because you've got this micro engine turbo charged
[54:05.700 --> 54:09.900]  hybrid augmented thing with a CBT transmission.
[54:09.900 --> 54:12.800]  And yay, I'm getting, you know, five miles more per gallon
[54:12.800 --> 54:15.800]  than the vehicle that costs thousands
[54:15.800 --> 54:17.600]  and thousands of dollars less.
[54:17.600 --> 54:18.800]  But you know, I guess people just can't
[54:18.800 --> 54:20.200]  do basic math anymore.
[54:20.200 --> 54:22.400]  So they buy into this nonsense.
[54:22.400 --> 54:24.300]  That's right, yeah.
[54:24.300 --> 54:26.900]  I like the sop ed piece that you put out,
[54:27.000 --> 54:30.000]  the last generation put this out yesterday.
[54:30.000 --> 54:31.700]  You started by saying, before the 90s,
[54:31.700 --> 54:35.700]  men drove cars and kids rode bicycles without helmets.
[54:35.700 --> 54:38.500]  Now men wear helmets to ride a bicycle
[54:38.500 --> 54:40.400]  and kids aren't allowed to ride in a car
[54:40.400 --> 54:43.400]  unless they're strapped in a safety seat.
[54:43.400 --> 54:44.900]  You know, that is the amazing thing.
[54:44.900 --> 54:49.200]  You know, Travis just had to get a car seat for their son.
[54:49.200 --> 54:50.200]  And of course, you know, they're talking about,
[54:50.200 --> 54:52.600]  well, this is gonna last up until, you know,
[54:52.600 --> 54:53.800]  whatever the age is.
[54:54.300 --> 54:56.700]  And, you know, they make the cars
[54:56.700 --> 54:59.200]  so that they have different inserts
[54:59.200 --> 55:00.600]  that you can put in when they're small
[55:00.600 --> 55:03.200]  and they can keep staying in that car seat forever,
[55:03.200 --> 55:05.300]  you know, as they get older and older.
[55:05.300 --> 55:08.300]  It's truly, it's amazing.
[55:08.300 --> 55:09.300]  It's terrible.
[55:09.300 --> 55:11.100]  And you know, one of the hidden costs of that, by the way,
[55:11.100 --> 55:13.000]  with regard to the safety seat mandate,
[55:13.000 --> 55:15.900]  it effectively pushes people to buy a three row SUV
[55:15.900 --> 55:17.800]  at some point or a crossover.
[55:17.800 --> 55:19.900]  Because if you've got more than two kids, you know,
[55:19.900 --> 55:22.700]  it becomes just too difficult to fit the seats
[55:22.700 --> 55:23.700]  in the back of the thing.
[55:24.700 --> 55:26.200]  So then you have to move up
[55:26.200 --> 55:28.900]  and buy this much more expensive vehicle.
[55:28.900 --> 55:32.300]  You know, I just, I miss the days, you know,
[55:32.300 --> 55:34.800]  when we were kids, you went for a drive,
[55:34.800 --> 55:37.000]  mom and dad, you open the door, just jump in the car and go.
[55:37.000 --> 55:38.200]  Yeah, now you gotta go.
[55:38.200 --> 55:39.600]  You gotta be able to get in the car
[55:39.600 --> 55:41.800]  and get them into the car seat and all the rest of this stuff.
[55:41.800 --> 55:44.400]  I mean, we just used to climb in these cars.
[55:44.400 --> 55:45.600]  They didn't have seat belts.
[55:45.600 --> 55:48.600]  They didn't have padded dashboards or anything.
[55:48.600 --> 55:50.000]  We used to joke about it.
[55:50.000 --> 55:51.800]  Even when we were in high school, you know,
[55:51.800 --> 55:53.100]  they started putting in the seat belts.
[55:53.100 --> 55:54.600]  They weren't mandatory yet.
[55:54.600 --> 55:56.400]  And we used to laugh about it and say,
[55:56.400 --> 55:58.600]  yeah, we used to just, somebody had an accident.
[55:58.600 --> 56:01.700]  We just hosed the blood off the dashboard and stole the car.
[56:01.700 --> 56:03.900]  Sure, you know, I understand that there is an increased risk.
[56:03.900 --> 56:06.000]  I know some people listening to us might be appalled
[56:06.000 --> 56:07.400]  at what I'm suggesting here,
[56:07.400 --> 56:09.300]  but I think it's gotten to be almost neurotic.
[56:09.300 --> 56:10.400]  No, I think it is neurotic.
[56:10.400 --> 56:11.200]  It is neurotic.
[56:11.200 --> 56:13.500]  It's over the top fear that pervades our society
[56:13.500 --> 56:15.100]  about what might happen.
[56:15.100 --> 56:17.000]  You know, heaven for Fenn, you know, you get in a car
[56:17.000 --> 56:19.600]  and drive down to the mailbox without your seat belt on,
[56:19.600 --> 56:21.200]  you know, you might die.
[56:21.200 --> 56:22.800]  This is the attitude that people have now.
[56:22.800 --> 56:25.300]  And it's just, it's over the top and it's silly.
[56:25.300 --> 56:28.600]  And just on a moral level, if you're an adult,
[56:28.600 --> 56:30.500]  you don't need to be parented, presumably.
[56:30.500 --> 56:31.800]  You're a grown up.
[56:31.800 --> 56:33.500]  So ease off, leave me alone.
[56:33.500 --> 56:34.400]  I'll make decisions.
[56:34.400 --> 56:39.000]  I'll weigh costs, benefits, risks and reward for myself.
[56:39.000 --> 56:41.400]  You have no right to parent another adult.
[56:41.400 --> 56:42.400]  That's right.
[56:42.400 --> 56:44.400]  Yeah, they would be absolutely appalled
[56:44.400 --> 56:47.600]  to see what happens in China when we were there,
[56:47.600 --> 56:50.000]  like 20 years ago.
[56:50.000 --> 56:52.400]  You know, you got somebody, the family,
[56:52.400 --> 56:53.400]  they don't have an SUV.
[56:53.400 --> 56:54.100]  They don't have a car.
[56:54.100 --> 56:55.900]  They got a motorcycle.
[56:55.900 --> 56:57.800]  And they just tell the little kids that are maybe,
[56:57.800 --> 56:59.700]  you know, four years old, just hang on, you know,
[56:59.700 --> 57:01.600]  there's no seat belt.
[57:01.600 --> 57:02.600]  There's nothing there.
[57:02.600 --> 57:04.400]  You know, somehow they managed to survive.
[57:04.400 --> 57:07.300]  I used to always laugh about the magic school bus.
[57:07.300 --> 57:08.700]  So one thing would come on
[57:08.700 --> 57:11.500]  and they would start by saying, seat belts, everybody.
[57:11.500 --> 57:14.000]  I said, there's no seat belts on a school bus.
[57:14.000 --> 57:15.900]  They cover them with laws and yellow paint
[57:15.900 --> 57:18.600]  to make sure that nobody gets hurt, you know.
[57:18.600 --> 57:20.400]  It's always great talking to you, Eric.
[57:20.400 --> 57:21.600]  We're out of time.
[57:22.500 --> 57:25.100]  That went by really, really fast, as it always does.
[57:25.100 --> 57:26.000]  Thank you so much.
[57:26.000 --> 57:28.000]  EricPeters.com.
[57:28.000 --> 57:29.000]  Check it out, folks.
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[57:30.900 --> 57:32.100]  Thank you, David. Appreciate it.
[57:32.100 --> 57:33.100]  Thank you.
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