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[01:07.200 --> 01:11.000]  I mentioned yesterday briefly the Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.
[01:11.000 --> 01:14.000]  It was kind of interesting, the history of this,
[01:14.000 --> 01:20.900]  and there was an interview on World Magazine, WNG.org.
[01:20.900 --> 01:23.800]  They talked to Bruce Forbes.
[01:23.900 --> 01:30.100]  He's a holiday historian and an author of Christmas, a Candid History.
[01:30.100 --> 01:32.500]  He said, you know, everybody thinks, well,
[01:32.500 --> 01:36.400]  this is the way they celebrated Christmas back in Victorian England.
[01:36.400 --> 01:42.500]  He said, actually, it wasn't a portrait of Victorian Christmas at the time.
[01:42.500 --> 01:49.500]  It actually, Dickens actually made Christmas popular
[01:49.500 --> 01:52.700]  when it was not popular at the time.
[01:52.700 --> 01:54.800]  And he points out, going back to the 1600s,
[01:54.800 --> 01:59.300]  English Puritans tried to stamp out Christmas celebrations
[01:59.300 --> 02:01.800]  based on two main objections.
[02:01.800 --> 02:05.000]  Number one, they said, well, it's not in early Christianity,
[02:05.000 --> 02:06.200]  so we're not called to do it.
[02:06.200 --> 02:10.600]  Number two, is there too much wild partying going on?
[02:10.600 --> 02:15.000]  And again, the way I look at it is, you know,
[02:15.000 --> 02:18.200]  some people look at one day as holier than another.
[02:18.200 --> 02:20.400]  Other people see every day as alike.
[02:20.500 --> 02:24.300]  Let everybody follow their conscience.
[02:24.300 --> 02:26.600]  And it depends on how you celebrate it.
[02:26.600 --> 02:28.000]  Is it going to be wild partying?
[02:28.000 --> 02:30.100]  Is it going to be rampant materialism?
[02:30.100 --> 02:32.800]  Or is it going to be an opportunity to reflect
[02:32.800 --> 02:36.800]  on the incarnation of Christ and his purpose?
[02:36.800 --> 02:42.000]  And so, Parliament even went so far as to ban Christmas in 1647.
[02:42.000 --> 02:44.200]  The historian Forbes said, at some points,
[02:44.200 --> 02:48.200]  they would send town criers around on Christmas Eve,
[02:48.200 --> 02:52.400]  crying, no Christmas, no Christmas.
[02:52.400 --> 02:56.100]  What would Megyn Kelly say?
[02:56.100 --> 02:58.500]  And Bill O'Reilly, these are the people he used to always
[02:58.500 --> 03:00.700]  talk about that were on Christmas every year.
[03:00.700 --> 03:02.700]  Forbes said, for a century or more,
[03:02.700 --> 03:05.700]  Christmas remained diminished.
[03:05.700 --> 03:07.500]  A survey of stories, as a matter of fact,
[03:07.500 --> 03:11.700]  from the London Times between 1790 and 1836
[03:11.700 --> 03:14.900]  shows just how much Christmas had fallen out of favor.
[03:14.900 --> 03:17.700]  In 20 of those years, nothing at all was said about Christmas.
[03:17.700 --> 03:21.900]  And in the other 25, it's mentioned only briefly
[03:21.900 --> 03:23.400]  in the kind of sense of, well, that's
[03:23.400 --> 03:27.100]  something that people used to do a long time ago.
[03:27.100 --> 03:30.000]  Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol in just six weeks.
[03:30.000 --> 03:32.400]  And he published it a few days before Christmas
[03:32.400 --> 03:34.400]  on December the 19th, 1843.
[03:34.400 --> 03:37.200]  He was up against a deadline and just barely making it
[03:37.200 --> 03:41.200]  like we did with this book and the bookmark, you know?
[03:41.200 --> 03:43.700]  Anyway, the public reaction was instant.
[03:43.700 --> 03:44.300]  They loved it.
[03:44.300 --> 03:44.900]  It sold out.
[03:44.900 --> 03:47.600]  They printed it over and over, reprints over and over again.
[03:47.600 --> 03:48.800]  In the following years.
[03:48.800 --> 03:51.700]  And it got very big in America as well.
[03:51.700 --> 03:54.400]  In 1868, Dickens sailed to the US
[03:54.400 --> 03:56.800]  to perform dramatic readings of his books,
[03:56.800 --> 03:59.400]  including A Christmas Carol.
[03:59.400 --> 04:01.200]  I used to watch Bonanza when I was a kid.
[04:01.200 --> 04:04.700]  I remember they had an episode of Charles Dickens in America.
[04:04.700 --> 04:07.300]  And he went to the ranch, you know?
[04:07.300 --> 04:09.200]  He got to meet the Cartwrights, I guess,
[04:09.200 --> 04:11.100]  because they got a lot of money.
[04:11.100 --> 04:14.700]  Anyway, Forbes said he was like a rock star.
[04:14.700 --> 04:16.800]  He had 150 people waiting overnight
[04:16.800 --> 04:21.200]  to get tickets in Boston, and the tickets all sold out.
[04:21.200 --> 04:23.200]  So he said, A Christmas Carol expressed
[04:23.200 --> 04:26.200]  Dickens' deep concern for the poor.
[04:26.200 --> 04:29.500]  And see, this is why, you know, when my friend,
[04:29.500 --> 04:31.400]  who was from the Libertarian Party,
[04:31.400 --> 04:36.400]  he got so upset about Dickens because he saw this
[04:36.400 --> 04:41.200]  as the wedge that was used to enact socialism, right?
[04:41.200 --> 04:42.800]  When in reality, you know, we need,
[04:42.800 --> 04:46.300]  we understand that they use children, as I said before,
[04:46.800 --> 04:49.900]  children are always, and the welfare of children
[04:49.900 --> 04:52.400]  is always the poster child for whatever it is
[04:52.400 --> 04:54.200]  that they want to do, whether it's setting up
[04:54.200 --> 04:57.400]  a digital ID on the internet or whatever it is.
[04:57.400 --> 04:59.400]  And yet we do need to be concerned
[04:59.400 --> 05:01.100]  about the welfare of children.
[05:01.100 --> 05:03.600]  It's just that we don't need to do it through government.
[05:03.600 --> 05:06.100]  And we do need to be concerned about the poor,
[05:06.100 --> 05:08.700]  and yet we shouldn't do it through government.
[05:08.700 --> 05:10.800]  And even though he wasn't advocating
[05:10.800 --> 05:13.300]  helping the people out through government,
[05:14.300 --> 05:16.900]  he even points out, you know, that one point he said,
[05:16.900 --> 05:20.300]  well, don't we have poor houses and institutions like that?
[05:20.300 --> 05:22.300]  And you look at how they had,
[05:22.300 --> 05:26.200]  the government had failed to help the poor in that.
[05:26.200 --> 05:29.000]  It really was an individual concern,
[05:29.000 --> 05:34.200]  and I think that was a key thrust of A Christmas Carol.
[05:34.200 --> 05:37.200]  So the story of Ebenezer Scrooge's transformation
[05:37.200 --> 05:38.700]  grabbed a hold of the public mind
[05:38.700 --> 05:42.100]  and added a new layer of meaning to the holiday,
[05:42.100 --> 05:43.400]  one which laid the groundwork
[05:43.400 --> 05:46.400]  for widespread Christmas celebrations,
[05:46.400 --> 05:48.500]  even among those who don't believe
[05:48.500 --> 05:51.400]  Christ came as a baby in a manger.
[05:51.400 --> 05:52.700]  And that's the other thing about it.
[05:52.700 --> 05:56.700]  You know, we need to understand the,
[05:56.700 --> 05:58.900]  when you look at Dickens' Christmas Carol,
[05:58.900 --> 06:01.600]  that was one thing that always kind of bothered me.
[06:01.600 --> 06:02.900]  You know, it's kind of like the beginning
[06:02.900 --> 06:04.000]  of It's a Wonderful Life
[06:04.000 --> 06:06.500]  and the phony angel narrative that's there.
[06:07.500 --> 06:10.300]  And, you know, how we're going to,
[06:10.300 --> 06:13.700]  you know, manipulate this guy's life
[06:13.700 --> 06:18.100]  in order to do various things.
[06:18.100 --> 06:20.700]  Still, helping the poor is not something
[06:20.700 --> 06:21.900]  that we should despise.
[06:21.900 --> 06:25.300]  Nevertheless, it's not, as Dickens puts it out there,
[06:25.300 --> 06:27.100]  it's not that good works
[06:27.100 --> 06:29.000]  are going to win us the favor of God.
[06:29.000 --> 06:31.000]  There are rewards for good works
[06:31.000 --> 06:32.800]  in both this life and the next life,
[06:32.800 --> 06:36.400]  but you've got to make sure that you make the next life.
[06:36.500 --> 06:39.800]  And the good works are not going to give you eternal life.
[06:39.800 --> 06:41.000]  That's what Christ came for,
[06:41.000 --> 06:45.200]  and that's the message, I think, should be of Christmas.
[06:45.200 --> 06:47.300]  As Forbes said, generosity becomes the theme
[06:47.300 --> 06:49.000]  that people can embrace,
[06:49.000 --> 06:50.800]  whether they're Christian or not,
[06:50.800 --> 06:53.100]  or whether they're religious or not.
[06:53.100 --> 06:54.800]  Generosity is a beautiful thing,
[06:54.800 --> 06:57.100]  and it's, I think, Dickens' Christmas Carol's
[06:57.100 --> 06:58.900]  greatest contribution.
[06:58.900 --> 07:02.000]  It shifts what Christmas becomes.
[07:02.100 --> 07:09.300]  And he made it kind of a secular orientation.
[07:09.300 --> 07:12.400]  You know, Jesus said,
[07:12.400 --> 07:14.200]  I am the way,
[07:14.200 --> 07:17.600]  and no one comes to the Father but by me, right?
[07:17.600 --> 07:19.500]  It's a very narrow way.
[07:19.500 --> 07:21.300]  It's only one person wide.
[07:21.300 --> 07:23.400]  You come through or by Christ,
[07:23.400 --> 07:26.200]  or you don't come at all to eternal life.
[07:26.200 --> 07:30.000]  And that is the message of Christmas, really.
[07:30.000 --> 07:32.500]  You know, some will say that,
[07:32.500 --> 07:35.600]  you know, we've seen Bloomberg say many times,
[07:35.600 --> 07:37.800]  he said, well, if there is a heaven,
[07:37.800 --> 07:38.600]  I'm going straight in,
[07:38.600 --> 07:40.000]  because of all the good things that I've done.
[07:40.000 --> 07:44.400]  So everybody can come up with their own set of things
[07:44.400 --> 07:48.300]  that they think earn them salvation.
[07:48.300 --> 07:50.300]  God will not be impressed.
[07:50.300 --> 07:51.800]  You know, when we disobey Him,
[07:51.800 --> 07:54.400]  we have rebelled against Him.
[07:54.400 --> 07:57.900]  And that's why we don't realize how serious that is,
[07:57.900 --> 08:01.100]  and we don't realize why we need Christ.
[08:01.100 --> 08:04.000]  But, you know, helping the poor,
[08:04.000 --> 08:05.500]  having health care for Tiny Tim,
[08:05.500 --> 08:07.400]  those are all great things.
[08:07.400 --> 08:10.200]  But, you know, the socialists have made those things
[08:10.200 --> 08:12.500]  that the government does.
[08:12.500 --> 08:15.800]  And so today, you know, if they would come around,
[08:15.800 --> 08:16.900]  Ebenezer Scrooge would say,
[08:16.900 --> 08:19.600]  well, don't we have welfare programs for those things?
[08:19.600 --> 08:20.800]  I don't need to help anybody.
[08:20.800 --> 08:23.600]  And he would miss the personal reward
[08:23.600 --> 08:26.100]  of helping someone like that.
[08:26.100 --> 08:28.500]  You know, these are all good things.
[08:28.500 --> 08:31.700]  But still, the only way to have that life
[08:31.700 --> 08:33.700]  is through the Lord Jesus Christ.
[08:33.700 --> 08:35.700]  You know, Dickens' story also thought about
[08:35.700 --> 08:38.200]  the fact that he has these three ghosts in it, right,
[08:38.200 --> 08:42.600]  that come back, and they're the ones that, you know,
[08:42.600 --> 08:46.300]  reason with Scrooge and convince him.
[08:46.300 --> 08:47.100]  And I always thought, you know,
[08:47.100 --> 08:52.100]  that's really very much like a twisted version
[08:52.100 --> 08:54.500]  of the story that Jesus gave about Lazarus
[08:54.500 --> 08:57.200]  and the rich man in Luke 16.
[08:57.200 --> 09:00.100]  And I don't think that's a parable.
[09:00.100 --> 09:01.200]  I think that's a real story.
[09:01.200 --> 09:05.500]  He uses real names, even references Abraham.
[09:05.500 --> 09:08.800]  He doesn't mention the name of the rich man
[09:08.800 --> 09:10.500]  because of the context of the story.
[09:10.500 --> 09:13.400]  You realize why he doesn't mention that.
[09:13.400 --> 09:16.000]  But, you know, we could just call him Scrooge,
[09:16.000 --> 09:19.900]  for example, right, or say Marley.
[09:19.900 --> 09:22.000]  It'd be Marley, not Scrooge.
[09:22.100 --> 09:25.100]  Because the rich man, as he is in torment,
[09:25.100 --> 09:28.100]  he begs Abraham, he said,
[09:28.100 --> 09:31.300]  let me go back and warn my family about this.
[09:31.300 --> 09:32.600]  You know, I don't want my brothers
[09:32.600 --> 09:35.200]  to make the same mistakes that I have made.
[09:35.200 --> 09:38.000]  And kind of like Marley, right?
[09:38.000 --> 09:40.500]  Except what does Abraham say to him?
[09:40.500 --> 09:42.600]  He said, well, they have the law and the prophets,
[09:42.600 --> 09:44.400]  and if they won't listen to them,
[09:44.400 --> 09:47.500]  they won't listen to somebody that comes back from the dead.
[09:47.500 --> 09:50.600]  I think about that every time I watch the show.
[09:52.600 --> 09:54.100]  So what would he tell them, right?
[09:54.100 --> 09:55.200]  What would he tell them about that?
[09:55.200 --> 09:58.300]  And what would they learn from the law and the prophets?
[09:58.300 --> 10:01.600]  Well, when Jesus was confronted with the religious leaders,
[10:01.600 --> 10:03.500]  he said, you search the scriptures,
[10:03.500 --> 10:05.500]  that is the law and the prophets,
[10:05.500 --> 10:08.000]  because you think in them you will find eternal life,
[10:08.000 --> 10:10.200]  but they testify of me.
[10:11.500 --> 10:15.900]  And they do, and that is the message of Christmas as well.
[10:15.900 --> 10:18.600]  You know, the prophecies and the whole narrative
[10:18.600 --> 10:21.500]  of the Old Testament all points to Christ.
[10:21.600 --> 10:24.200]  It's not about the end of the world.
[10:24.200 --> 10:26.100]  It's not about Zionism.
[10:26.100 --> 10:27.500]  It's not about any of that stuff.
[10:27.500 --> 10:28.600]  And what happens to Israel?
[10:28.600 --> 10:29.900]  What happens at the end of the world?
[10:29.900 --> 10:34.100]  No, even, that's such a misreading of revelation.
[10:35.000 --> 10:37.700]  People will often call it revelations.
[10:38.700 --> 10:40.400]  And I think it's because they think of it
[10:40.400 --> 10:42.200]  as revelations about the end of the world.
[10:42.200 --> 10:47.200]  But the actual title is The Revelation of Jesus Christ.
[10:47.900 --> 10:51.100]  That's what the Bible is from start to finish.
[10:51.100 --> 10:54.300]  And so it testifies of him.
[10:54.300 --> 10:59.300]  And again, the law and the prophets testify.
[10:59.300 --> 11:01.700]  So, you know, Marley's not going to go back
[11:01.700 --> 11:03.400]  and tell Scrooge this.
[11:03.400 --> 11:05.200]  Scrooge has got the law and the prophets.
[11:05.200 --> 11:08.800]  And if he doesn't want to see what they have to say
[11:08.800 --> 11:13.600]  about Christ, then that's the real message
[11:13.600 --> 11:15.100]  of Christmas Charlie Brown.
[11:15.100 --> 11:20.100]  So that's, that's the reason that we celebrate it.
[11:26.700 --> 11:27.900]  Yeah.
[11:27.900 --> 11:32.300]  It's always any chance you have to remember
[11:32.300 --> 11:34.600]  what Christ has done for you forever.
[11:34.600 --> 11:35.700]  That's right.
[11:35.700 --> 11:37.100]  And to tell people, you know, I mean,
[11:37.100 --> 11:40.000]  what is the end of the Christmas story?
[11:40.000 --> 11:43.000]  And nobody ever kept Christmas like Kevin and Scrooge
[11:43.000 --> 11:44.000]  kept Christmas.
[11:44.000 --> 11:45.100]  So it's like, is that it?
[11:45.100 --> 11:46.700]  Is that the moral of the story?
[11:46.700 --> 11:50.400]  Kind of as an anticlimactic ending here, right?
[11:50.400 --> 11:53.100]  He still dies at some point in time,
[11:53.100 --> 11:54.200]  but they remembered him fondly
[11:54.200 --> 11:56.100]  because he was very generous with everybody.
[11:56.100 --> 11:59.600]  Well, no one put up more wreaths than Ebenezer.
[11:59.600 --> 12:03.000]  I hope that you enjoy the reward of that.
[12:03.000 --> 12:04.700]  And that is a rewarding thing,
[12:04.700 --> 12:07.500]  but that is not the ultimate thing.
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[15:03.900 --> 15:07.100]  Zoe worked as a medical coder for over a decade.
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[15:15.100 --> 15:15.700]  Yeah.
[15:15.700 --> 15:17.100]  Hi, thanks for inviting me.
[15:17.100 --> 15:18.500]  Thanks for being here.
[15:18.500 --> 15:19.800]  Yeah, so a medical coder.
[15:19.800 --> 15:21.900]  A lot of people don't even know that it exists
[15:21.900 --> 15:24.200]  because you don't really see it as a patient,
[15:24.200 --> 15:28.100]  but everything that happens to you in a hospital, clinic,
[15:28.100 --> 15:29.900]  x-ray, lab, whatever,
[15:29.900 --> 15:32.100]  has to have a diagnosis and procedure assigned,
[15:32.100 --> 15:34.200]  and that's how your doctor gets paid.
[15:34.200 --> 15:37.900]  So the coder is the one who reviews that documentation,
[15:37.900 --> 15:39.500]  assigns the right diagnosis code,
[15:39.500 --> 15:41.100]  assigns the right procedure code,
[15:41.100 --> 15:43.500]  and that's what gets put on the bill
[15:43.500 --> 15:46.600]  and that your insurance or Medicare uses to pay your doctor
[15:46.600 --> 15:49.500]  or the lab or the hospital for their services.
[15:49.500 --> 15:52.300]  So it was really boring until COVID happened.
[15:52.300 --> 15:54.800]  Then you had a bird's-eye view of what was going on.
[15:54.800 --> 15:56.700]  I was just telling you off air.
[15:56.700 --> 15:59.900]  The aha moment for me was the AHA,
[15:59.900 --> 16:02.200]  the American Hospital Association,
[16:02.200 --> 16:04.600]  and I believe it was August of 2020.
[16:04.600 --> 16:06.100]  I've talked about this many times.
[16:06.100 --> 16:10.100]  They got very upset because they said to CMS
[16:10.100 --> 16:11.100]  who was paying them, they said,
[16:11.100 --> 16:13.500]  you told us that we didn't have to have
[16:13.500 --> 16:16.100]  a PCR documentation for this.
[16:16.100 --> 16:17.600]  You said that you didn't have enough of them,
[16:17.600 --> 16:18.900]  and you said they didn't work,
[16:18.900 --> 16:20.300]  and you said we just pointed somebody
[16:20.300 --> 16:22.400]  to a clinical diagnosis and you would give us
[16:22.400 --> 16:26.600]  a 20% bonus on everything that we did to the people
[16:26.600 --> 16:30.400]  as well as the upfront cash bonus of $13,000.
[16:30.400 --> 16:33.500]  And now you want to have this new requirement.
[16:33.500 --> 16:34.400]  That's not fair.
[16:34.400 --> 16:37.500]  So they were complaining because they weren't getting paid,
[16:37.500 --> 16:39.400]  and it kind of exposed the whole thing
[16:39.400 --> 16:40.900]  except nobody would cover that.
[16:40.900 --> 16:42.900]  It was amazing to me how there was
[16:42.900 --> 16:45.400]  dead silence everywhere about that.
[16:45.400 --> 16:49.300]  I mean, you incentivize people to that degree,
[16:49.300 --> 16:51.000]  and I would always say to people,
[16:51.000 --> 16:53.700]  look, the money is the issue.
[16:53.700 --> 16:55.900]  You know, the declaration of the emergency
[16:55.900 --> 16:57.700]  by Trump unleashed the money,
[16:57.700 --> 17:01.100]  and then they put out these rules through CMS
[17:01.100 --> 17:03.900]  and paid these people to kill
[17:03.900 --> 17:04.900]  is really what was happening.
[17:04.900 --> 17:05.600]  Absolutely.
[17:05.600 --> 17:07.800]  And that's what you saw as well, right?
[17:07.800 --> 17:10.000]  Yeah, they did.
[17:10.000 --> 17:12.400]  I don't know if you're familiar with the vaxed bus,
[17:12.400 --> 17:13.600]  but Children's Health Defense,
[17:13.600 --> 17:15.000]  they sent out a third one.
[17:15.000 --> 17:18.500]  So they've done a part one, part two, and now part three.
[17:18.500 --> 17:22.100]  The part three is called authorized to kill for that reason
[17:22.100 --> 17:24.300]  because the CARES Act really did,
[17:24.300 --> 17:28.300]  it incentivized a behavior change in hospitals
[17:28.300 --> 17:32.400]  and with physicians and how they were able to practice medicine.
[17:32.400 --> 17:34.200]  It set everything on its head,
[17:34.200 --> 17:35.800]  and it incentivized everything.
[17:35.800 --> 17:38.900]  What you're talking about, what the AHA said about
[17:38.900 --> 17:41.200]  you didn't even need a PCR test result
[17:41.200 --> 17:44.800]  to get that COVID diagnosis is absolutely correct.
[17:44.800 --> 17:46.600]  And that was one of the things that I noticed
[17:46.600 --> 17:49.500]  in the Pandora's box of things that changed
[17:49.500 --> 17:54.400]  right when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve
[17:54.400 --> 17:58.300]  in March of 2020.
[17:58.300 --> 18:00.300]  They changed all the coding rules as well.
[18:00.300 --> 18:04.100]  So April 1st, 2020 is when the COVID-19 diagnosis
[18:04.100 --> 18:05.800]  went into effect,
[18:05.800 --> 18:10.000]  and we were actually told to commit fraud before that time
[18:10.000 --> 18:12.800]  because we didn't have a code to reflect COVID-19,
[18:12.800 --> 18:15.100]  and we needed to track that so much.
[18:15.100 --> 18:17.400]  And of course, everyone had to get the PCR test
[18:17.400 --> 18:20.000]  in order to get the diagnosis.
[18:20.000 --> 18:22.600]  But then there was this official coding guideline,
[18:22.600 --> 18:24.500]  which is what we use as coders.
[18:24.500 --> 18:26.100]  It's like our Bible.
[18:26.100 --> 18:29.000]  It tells us what's correct, what's fraud,
[18:29.000 --> 18:32.000]  and it's essentially, it lays out the rules.
[18:32.000 --> 18:35.300]  And in those rules, there's a part that says,
[18:35.300 --> 18:37.500]  in order to be diagnosed with COVID-19,
[18:37.500 --> 18:41.100]  all your physician needs to do is write down
[18:41.100 --> 18:42.500]  in their medical opinion
[18:42.500 --> 18:45.100]  that they think that you have COVID-19.
[18:45.100 --> 18:46.800]  They didn't need to do an exam.
[18:46.800 --> 18:48.900]  They didn't need to have a PCR test result.
[18:48.900 --> 18:51.500]  And it says right in that official guideline,
[18:51.500 --> 18:54.000]  this is an exception to section 2H
[18:54.000 --> 18:55.500]  inpatient coding guidelines,
[18:55.500 --> 18:58.000]  which says for every other diagnosis,
[18:58.000 --> 18:59.600]  they have to do an exam
[18:59.600 --> 19:03.300]  and they have to have some sort of clinical documentation,
[19:03.300 --> 19:06.800]  usually some sort of lab work or diagnostics
[19:06.800 --> 19:10.100]  to prove their working diagnosis.
[19:10.100 --> 19:12.600]  So COVID was an exception for that.
[19:12.600 --> 19:15.400]  And that was one of the really big red flags
[19:15.400 --> 19:17.400]  that came up for me.
[19:17.400 --> 19:20.100]  And of course I noticed in my position,
[19:20.100 --> 19:22.300]  not only is everyone getting this PCR test
[19:22.300 --> 19:24.900]  when we come in, they're not all sick,
[19:24.900 --> 19:28.000]  but then they get this COVID-19 diagnosis.
[19:28.000 --> 19:30.800]  And the part that most people that still,
[19:30.800 --> 19:32.300]  a lot of people aren't familiar with
[19:32.300 --> 19:34.900]  is when they did the two weeks to flatten the curve
[19:34.900 --> 19:36.600]  and they locked down everybody,
[19:36.600 --> 19:40.200]  they actually kicked people out of the ICU early
[19:40.200 --> 19:43.700]  and they shut down other wings of the hospital.
[19:43.700 --> 19:45.900]  They went down to a skeleton crew.
[19:47.000 --> 19:49.400]  So they consolidated wings within the hospital.
[19:49.400 --> 19:52.800]  So the ER and the ICU stayed open,
[19:52.800 --> 19:55.300]  but the rest of the hospital was shut down.
[19:55.300 --> 19:58.500]  We were getting furloughed and laid off
[19:58.500 --> 20:02.300]  and hiring freezes and no raises, no bonuses
[20:02.300 --> 20:04.500]  during the time when the media was saying,
[20:04.600 --> 20:06.400]  these healthcare heroes are showing up
[20:06.400 --> 20:09.500]  to fight the onslaught of COVID-19 patients.
[20:09.500 --> 20:12.300]  So it was an onslaught of false positive tests,
[20:12.300 --> 20:15.100]  but it wasn't an onslaught of a whole bunch of patients.
[20:15.100 --> 20:16.300]  We were getting furloughed.
[20:16.300 --> 20:18.800]  So the hospital really, really needed that money
[20:18.800 --> 20:21.000]  because they were bankrupted
[20:21.000 --> 20:23.900]  right before those incentives came out.
[20:23.900 --> 20:26.700]  So they really needed those incentives.
[20:26.700 --> 20:30.700]  So they were absolutely excited to label someone as COVID-19
[20:30.700 --> 20:32.600]  and get that 20% diagnosis
[20:32.600 --> 20:34.100]  and then hook them up to the ventilator,
[20:34.100 --> 20:36.000]  which they got another bonus for.
[20:36.000 --> 20:38.400]  And then the Randesa beer,
[20:38.400 --> 20:40.300]  which they were giving out like candy
[20:40.300 --> 20:43.100]  during this entire time.
[20:43.100 --> 20:46.200]  The bonus really didn't go into effect until August of 2020,
[20:46.200 --> 20:49.500]  but they were using it from about April all the way through.
[20:49.500 --> 20:52.400]  And I noticed how the protocols were killing people
[20:52.400 --> 20:54.200]  and doctors would just say,
[20:54.200 --> 20:56.600]  oh, this is a progression of COVID-19.
[20:56.600 --> 20:58.800]  And to this day, a lot of people will say,
[20:59.900 --> 21:02.400]  oh, I had a family member that died of COVID.
[21:02.400 --> 21:04.800]  They went to the hospital because they had COVID
[21:04.800 --> 21:06.300]  and they died of COVID.
[21:06.300 --> 21:08.600]  But I asked them, did they really die of COVID
[21:08.600 --> 21:10.000]  or did they die of the protocol?
[21:10.000 --> 21:11.900]  Were they not that sick until they got there?
[21:11.900 --> 21:14.100]  And then they served with the drain
[21:14.100 --> 21:16.100]  because in my experience,
[21:16.100 --> 21:20.300]  most of the patients within sometimes a few days to,
[21:20.300 --> 21:22.600]  sometimes it took up to a month,
[21:22.600 --> 21:24.900]  but those protocols were killing people,
[21:24.900 --> 21:28.900]  shutting down their organs and then they would die.
[21:28.900 --> 21:32.700]  And that wasn't normal to have that happen
[21:32.700 --> 21:33.900]  to a pneumonia patient.
[21:33.900 --> 21:35.600]  Normally they'd be there three days.
[21:35.600 --> 21:38.400]  We pump them full of antibiotics,
[21:38.400 --> 21:40.800]  which we weren't using for COVID-19
[21:40.800 --> 21:42.500]  and then they would go home.
[21:42.500 --> 21:44.500]  So this was totally backwards.
[21:44.500 --> 21:46.900]  And then I started to notice all the incentives
[21:46.900 --> 21:48.700]  because even as a coder,
[21:48.700 --> 21:51.100]  they have all these checks and balances
[21:51.100 --> 21:53.300]  in the electronic medical record system
[21:53.300 --> 21:55.700]  and it counts against you if you miss something.
[21:55.700 --> 21:58.500]  So like if I missed someone for COVID-19,
[21:58.500 --> 21:59.800]  I would get a notice about it.
[21:59.800 --> 22:02.200]  Like, oh, this is gonna count against your score
[22:02.200 --> 22:03.700]  and might not get a raise this year
[22:03.700 --> 22:05.700]  because you weren't a good coder.
[22:05.700 --> 22:07.800]  And they were watching that for remdesivir
[22:07.800 --> 22:10.300]  because the bonuses were so much.
[22:10.300 --> 22:15.700]  On the bill, every single remdesivir infusion
[22:15.700 --> 22:17.800]  was $4,000.
[22:17.800 --> 22:19.600]  Give or take a little bit throughout the country
[22:19.600 --> 22:21.400]  because it's weighted based on like where you live.
[22:21.400 --> 22:24.000]  So it'd be more expensive in New York or California,
[22:24.900 --> 22:29.000]  but around $4,000 per dose
[22:29.000 --> 22:30.400]  is how much they were getting.
[22:30.400 --> 22:31.200]  Yeah, the ventilators.
[22:31.200 --> 22:34.200]  I interviewed a woman who was a nurse.
[22:34.200 --> 22:35.800]  She wrote a book called Pandemic Nurse
[22:35.800 --> 22:37.100]  and she was in Florida and she said,
[22:37.100 --> 22:40.000]  I wasn't seeing the kind of narrative
[22:40.000 --> 22:41.300]  that they were talking about with the pandemic
[22:41.300 --> 22:43.200]  and everybody was saying was all happening up in New York.
[22:43.200 --> 22:45.300]  So she left and went to New York to help
[22:45.300 --> 22:46.900]  and sat around for a couple of days
[22:46.900 --> 22:48.000]  after she told them she was there
[22:48.000 --> 22:49.100]  before they brought her in.
[22:49.100 --> 22:50.300]  When they finally did bring her in,
[22:50.300 --> 22:52.000]  she's like, what's going on?
[22:52.000 --> 22:53.100]  They're not busy either.
[22:53.200 --> 22:54.400]  When they brought her in,
[22:54.400 --> 22:55.400]  physician walked around,
[22:55.400 --> 22:56.600]  showed the people on the ventilators
[22:56.600 --> 22:59.300]  and he said, about 90% of these people are gonna die.
[22:59.300 --> 23:01.400]  And she said, it was horrible.
[23:01.400 --> 23:02.400]  They were just killing people.
[23:02.400 --> 23:03.900]  And of course, when you look at it,
[23:03.900 --> 23:08.100]  if you get a $13,000 bonus for pointing at somebody
[23:08.100 --> 23:09.500]  and saying they got COVID,
[23:09.500 --> 23:12.100]  they may not even be sick as you pointed out.
[23:12.100 --> 23:13.800]  Then if you put them on a ventilator,
[23:13.800 --> 23:16.200]  you get $39,000 already right there.
[23:16.200 --> 23:20.600]  You got $52,000 for a machine that costs you $50,000.
[23:20.600 --> 23:22.700]  And then they will pay you 20%
[23:22.700 --> 23:25.400]  on the charges that you've got for them to use it
[23:25.400 --> 23:27.500]  until you kill them with that ventilator.
[23:27.500 --> 23:30.300]  And again, pulmonologists were looking at this
[23:30.300 --> 23:33.200]  and come back and said, this never made any sense.
[23:33.200 --> 23:34.200]  We never did it like this.
[23:34.200 --> 23:35.900]  You're pointing out they give people antibiotics
[23:35.900 --> 23:36.900]  and other things like that.
[23:36.900 --> 23:39.600]  So we would never put people on a ventilator
[23:39.600 --> 23:41.400]  for pneumonia or things like that.
[23:41.400 --> 23:42.240]  Exactly.
[23:42.240 --> 23:45.600]  All of it was so incredibly corrupt
[23:45.600 --> 23:47.100]  and counterintuitive
[23:47.100 --> 23:50.500]  and they turned the hospitals into killing machines
[23:50.500 --> 23:51.500]  for money.
[23:51.500 --> 23:52.500]  And everybody was willing to do that.
[23:52.500 --> 23:54.600]  I mean, if you got somebody that's there
[23:54.600 --> 23:59.600]  and even if it wasn't an economic emergency
[23:59.900 --> 24:02.000]  that had been created partially by the government,
[24:02.000 --> 24:03.500]  you know, if you were to tell somebody,
[24:03.500 --> 24:04.500]  you point to that person
[24:04.500 --> 24:06.300]  and say they've got this condition,
[24:06.300 --> 24:09.100]  I'll give you $13,000.
[24:09.100 --> 24:10.700]  We know how human nature works
[24:10.700 --> 24:13.100]  and we know how the corporate hospitals work.
[24:13.100 --> 24:15.600]  I mean, the incentives to do that are gonna be huge.
[24:15.600 --> 24:19.000]  Just like the disincentives to report somebody
[24:19.000 --> 24:21.500]  when they've had a reaction to the vaccines
[24:21.500 --> 24:22.800]  are gonna be huge as well.
[24:22.800 --> 24:23.700]  Were you still there
[24:23.700 --> 24:25.500]  when they started the vaccination program
[24:25.500 --> 24:26.340]  or had you left?
[24:26.340 --> 24:27.900]  Because you say that you left
[24:27.900 --> 24:31.300]  when they made the vaccine mandatory.
[24:31.300 --> 24:33.300]  Did you see it happening before that?
[24:34.200 --> 24:37.000]  I started to wake up during,
[24:37.000 --> 24:38.300]  really when they started declaring
[24:38.300 --> 24:39.600]  two weeks to flatten the curve
[24:39.600 --> 24:42.000]  and I started seeing people wearing masks in public.
[24:42.000 --> 24:45.500]  I knew this was not a pandemic
[24:45.500 --> 24:46.600]  and there was something,
[24:46.600 --> 24:49.200]  some kind of psychological operation going on
[24:49.200 --> 24:50.300]  because I had worked in the hospital
[24:50.300 --> 24:52.000]  for the swine flu scare.
[24:52.000 --> 24:53.300]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson
[24:53.300 --> 24:56.000]  and I want to be honest with you for a second
[24:56.000 --> 24:58.900]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[24:58.900 --> 25:00.000]  A couple of years ago,
[25:00.000 --> 25:02.200]  I made the choice to partner
[25:02.200 --> 25:04.100]  with an amazing organization
[25:04.100 --> 25:05.900]  called Compassion International.
[25:05.900 --> 25:06.800]  Why?
[25:06.800 --> 25:09.900]  Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[25:09.900 --> 25:11.800]  It was a nice idea, sure,
[25:11.800 --> 25:15.600]  but I had no idea just how much that simple act
[25:15.600 --> 25:17.600]  could change my life as well.
[25:17.600 --> 25:19.300]  I sponsored Nadia
[25:19.300 --> 25:22.800]  and got to watch her life change right in front of my eyes,
[25:22.800 --> 25:26.400]  going from starving literally alone on the streets
[25:26.400 --> 25:28.500]  to getting the healthcare and education
[25:28.500 --> 25:32.500]  she needs to reach her God-given full potential.
[25:32.500 --> 25:34.700]  I got to be a part of that change
[25:34.700 --> 25:36.600]  and the light of that compassion
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[25:38.600 --> 25:40.700]  it illuminates now in me.
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[26:31.800 --> 26:33.700]  And it wasn't a thing in the hospital.
[26:33.700 --> 26:35.400]  Like it was just regular flu.
[26:35.400 --> 26:37.600]  I didn't even talk to people that were on the front lines,
[26:37.700 --> 26:40.400]  like ER doctors and nurses.
[26:40.400 --> 26:42.800]  And they said, some of them even said that they got it
[26:42.800 --> 26:44.500]  and it wasn't that big of a deal.
[26:44.500 --> 26:47.700]  So when they declared COVID, I was really suspicious.
[26:47.700 --> 26:50.100]  This is just gonna be another vaccination campaign
[26:50.100 --> 26:53.000]  because they already had mandates for the flu shot
[26:53.000 --> 26:56.300]  for healthcare workers for like a decade before that.
[26:56.300 --> 26:59.100]  And I had been doing the exemption every year.
[26:59.100 --> 27:01.300]  And the reason I did that is because the first year
[27:01.300 --> 27:04.200]  that they made healthcare workers get the flu shot,
[27:04.200 --> 27:06.000]  everybody was getting the flu.
[27:06.100 --> 27:09.000]  And so that was the year that we came up with the,
[27:09.000 --> 27:11.400]  it was just a rumor within the university lab
[27:11.400 --> 27:13.200]  where I worked, but everybody was saying it,
[27:13.200 --> 27:15.300]  that you get the flu from the flu shot.
[27:15.300 --> 27:17.700]  So ever since then, I just didn't wanna do it.
[27:17.700 --> 27:20.400]  So during that whole year of Operation Work Speed,
[27:20.400 --> 27:22.100]  the only thing that's gonna get us back to normal
[27:22.100 --> 27:23.400]  is this vaccine.
[27:23.400 --> 27:26.500]  I thought if the flu shot never worked,
[27:26.500 --> 27:29.400]  the chances that the COVID shot is gonna work
[27:29.400 --> 27:31.200]  is slim to nil.
[27:31.200 --> 27:33.300]  And the amount of pressure for this one
[27:33.300 --> 27:36.900]  compared to the flu shot is astronomical.
[27:36.900 --> 27:38.700]  So there's something to it.
[27:38.700 --> 27:41.600]  So that made me actually not just look at the COVID shot,
[27:41.600 --> 27:43.800]  but look at all the other vaccines.
[27:43.800 --> 27:47.000]  And what I learned was they don't teach coders
[27:47.000 --> 27:50.900]  or doctors or nurses anything about vaccine side effects
[27:50.900 --> 27:55.100]  or adverse effects, despite the fact that they have codes
[27:55.100 --> 27:58.400]  to assign for vaccine effects.
[27:58.400 --> 28:00.900]  But I would see patients come in with like Guillain-Barre
[28:00.900 --> 28:03.800]  before this, and the doctors would try very hard
[28:03.800 --> 28:06.200]  not to relate it to a vaccine.
[28:06.200 --> 28:07.600]  And there would be codes in there,
[28:07.600 --> 28:09.700]  like adverse effect of flu shot
[28:09.700 --> 28:11.500]  or adverse effect of whatever.
[28:11.500 --> 28:15.300]  And those are supposed to be like a safety signal code.
[28:15.300 --> 28:18.100]  Like one of the reasons why the ICD-10 system,
[28:18.100 --> 28:20.000]  which is owned by the WHO, by the way,
[28:20.000 --> 28:23.500]  so every member state that is part of the WHO
[28:23.500 --> 28:25.500]  has to report these codes
[28:25.500 --> 28:27.900]  and it's for statistical monitoring purposes.
[28:27.900 --> 28:30.500]  So this is how they monitor pandemics.
[28:30.500 --> 28:33.300]  This is how they monitor cancer,
[28:33.300 --> 28:37.000]  like how many cases of cancer there are throughout the world
[28:37.000 --> 28:41.000]  or heart problems or pneumonia cases.
[28:41.000 --> 28:43.000]  This is the system that they use.
[28:43.000 --> 28:44.900]  And it's also supposed to be used starting
[28:44.900 --> 28:48.300]  in clinical trials for devices and drugs
[28:48.300 --> 28:50.600]  to look for a safety signal.
[28:50.600 --> 28:53.300]  So I thought with this COVID-19 vaccine,
[28:53.300 --> 28:57.700]  there should be a code for adverse effect of this shot
[28:57.700 --> 28:59.700]  and it should be my job to assign it.
[28:59.700 --> 29:01.100]  So I did my due diligence
[29:01.100 --> 29:03.300]  and I looked into all the warnings
[29:03.300 --> 29:05.900]  and what could happen if people got the shot.
[29:05.900 --> 29:07.300]  And then I looked at what could happen
[29:07.300 --> 29:08.900]  if people got the other vaccines.
[29:08.900 --> 29:11.600]  And I started to realize that they had been varying
[29:11.600 --> 29:15.300]  all of the effects that people would get from vaccines
[29:15.300 --> 29:19.700]  and not assigning these adverse effect codes up until 2020.
[29:19.700 --> 29:21.900]  And then when the COVID-19 vaccine came out,
[29:21.900 --> 29:23.700]  there was no code to report it.
[29:23.700 --> 29:27.100]  So it should have been my job to collect that danger signal.
[29:27.100 --> 29:29.100]  And I even went on a podcast called
[29:29.100 --> 29:33.600]  Deborah Gets Red Pill was just a radio show in early 2021
[29:33.600 --> 29:35.400]  right after I quit my job.
[29:35.400 --> 29:39.600]  And I said, the COVID-19 vaccine is more dangerous
[29:39.600 --> 29:42.900]  than all of the other vaccines combined.
[29:42.900 --> 29:45.800]  And that was with my, that was just an observation,
[29:45.800 --> 29:50.000]  but it was 10 years of medical coding experience.
[29:50.000 --> 29:53.500]  And then learning what I learned about vaccine side effects
[29:53.500 --> 29:55.900]  and all the cases that I saw of children in the ER
[29:55.900 --> 29:57.900]  constantly having eczema or rashes
[29:57.900 --> 30:00.900]  or even anaphylactic responses.
[30:00.900 --> 30:03.200]  And then I look at the record and they just got a vaccine,
[30:03.200 --> 30:05.800]  but the doctor's not connecting the two.
[30:05.800 --> 30:08.900]  So when COVID-19 came out, people were having strokes
[30:08.900 --> 30:13.200]  and acetylitis and blood clots like I've never seen before.
[30:13.200 --> 30:15.300]  My own caritis, they were getting COVID-19
[30:15.300 --> 30:17.900]  immediately after getting the shot like the same day
[30:17.900 --> 30:20.700]  or the next day and then being hospitalized.
[30:20.700 --> 30:22.900]  There were people with paralytic problems,
[30:22.900 --> 30:25.700]  seizure disorders, blood disorders
[30:25.700 --> 30:27.700]  where they couldn't even figure out what was going on
[30:27.700 --> 30:28.900]  because the patient was clotting
[30:28.900 --> 30:30.300]  and bleeding at the same time
[30:30.300 --> 30:32.300]  and they didn't even know how to treat it.
[30:32.300 --> 30:34.200]  Wow, wow.
[30:34.200 --> 30:37.700]  Crazy stuff started happening just in the first four months
[30:37.700 --> 30:38.900]  of the vaccine rollout.
[30:38.900 --> 30:42.300]  So it wasn't even available to the rest of the public yet.
[30:42.300 --> 30:46.000]  But by summer of 2021 is when they started saying,
[30:46.000 --> 30:48.700]  you at home, like this is the hospital leadership.
[30:48.700 --> 30:52.100]  They would have videos that they would send to all staff
[30:52.100 --> 30:54.800]  all the time monitoring COVID.
[30:54.800 --> 30:57.200]  And they were really, really pushing us to get that shot.
[30:57.200 --> 30:59.200]  They were saying, we're not doing as good
[30:59.200 --> 31:01.800]  as the other hospitals who are getting incentivized
[31:01.800 --> 31:05.400]  for meeting their vaccination quota and we weren't.
[31:05.400 --> 31:08.100]  So they were pointing to us, people who worked from home
[31:08.100 --> 31:11.400]  who never saw patients, who never walked into a hospital.
[31:11.400 --> 31:13.800]  You guys are spreading it around society
[31:13.800 --> 31:15.600]  and we're gonna have to fire you
[31:15.600 --> 31:17.800]  if you don't get your shots.
[31:17.800 --> 31:21.100]  So at that point, I couldn't take it anymore.
[31:21.100 --> 31:24.200]  I knew that my job had been to get them money
[31:24.200 --> 31:25.900]  for murdering patients.
[31:25.900 --> 31:28.900]  And I was having a crisis of conscience over that.
[31:28.900 --> 31:31.400]  And then before the vaccine went out,
[31:31.400 --> 31:34.400]  I decided I was gonna be a spy at that point
[31:34.400 --> 31:36.800]  and just see if the vaccine really was as bad
[31:36.800 --> 31:39.000]  as old warnings said.
[31:39.000 --> 31:43.200]  And then it turned out to be far worse than I anticipated.
[31:43.200 --> 31:45.600]  And I didn't think that the chances would be very good
[31:45.600 --> 31:48.700]  that I would get an exemption
[31:48.700 --> 31:51.400]  because it changed the rules for getting an exemption.
[31:52.400 --> 31:54.500]  A lot of people got fired
[31:54.500 --> 31:56.800]  and I didn't wanna work for them anymore.
[31:56.800 --> 31:58.800]  I didn't wanna continue helping them get money
[31:58.800 --> 32:00.100]  to murder people.
[32:00.100 --> 32:02.100]  Good for you, good for you.
[32:02.100 --> 32:05.800]  Yeah, you really did have a bird's eye view
[32:05.800 --> 32:07.600]  of this whole thing because you're seeing
[32:07.600 --> 32:11.200]  the diagnostic codes as well as the treatments
[32:11.200 --> 32:12.200]  that are there.
[32:12.200 --> 32:15.500]  And so you could get a good picture
[32:15.500 --> 32:17.600]  of what was actually coming on
[32:17.600 --> 32:21.000]  and seeing the trends that were there.
[32:21.100 --> 32:23.000]  That's very interesting, your perspective.
[32:23.000 --> 32:25.000]  Yeah, I've got something and I apologize
[32:25.000 --> 32:26.200]  because we can't feed this to you.
[32:26.200 --> 32:27.000]  So you can't hear this.
[32:27.000 --> 32:29.000]  I'll kind of talk about it and describe it.
[32:29.000 --> 32:33.100]  But I want the audience to hear what Lutnik,
[32:33.100 --> 32:36.600]  I call him Lucky Lutnik, what he said
[32:36.600 --> 32:39.600]  in terms about the money that can be made
[32:39.600 --> 32:40.600]  off of this kind of stuff.
[32:40.600 --> 32:44.000]  And he uses an example of the vaccines.
[32:44.000 --> 32:46.600]  The United States government, the most powerful,
[32:46.600 --> 32:49.100]  the greatest customer, buys stuff.
[32:49.100 --> 32:51.000]  We walk in, we're gonna buy,
[32:51.000 --> 32:52.500]  here's the example I like to use.
[32:52.500 --> 32:56.900]  We're gonna buy two billion COVID vaccines.
[32:57.900 --> 33:00.900]  When we buy it, Pfizer and Moderna stocks
[33:00.900 --> 33:03.900]  are gonna triple, they're gonna triple.
[33:03.900 --> 33:06.900]  So then we say, everyone's gonna have this vaccine.
[33:08.300 --> 33:11.700]  If I were, after Jared Kushner negotiated
[33:11.700 --> 33:13.500]  the best deal he could, if Howard Lutnik
[33:13.500 --> 33:16.000]  walked in the room, Howard Lutnik would say,
[33:16.000 --> 33:17.800]  what do you think, 20% warrants?
[33:18.800 --> 33:21.000]  20% warrants, right?
[33:21.000 --> 33:21.840]  What?
[33:21.840 --> 33:24.600]  So we'd make $50 billion off of who?
[33:24.600 --> 33:25.700]  Nobody.
[33:25.700 --> 33:27.300]  We didn't take from anybody.
[33:27.300 --> 33:29.400]  Okay, the shareholders of Pfizer,
[33:29.400 --> 33:32.500]  who we've just tripled them with our order.
[33:32.500 --> 33:34.500]  Now, how many of my customers?
[33:36.600 --> 33:40.000]  Yeah, Zoe, what he's saying, Zoe, he says,
[33:40.000 --> 33:42.600]  yeah, the U.S. government's the most powerful customer.
[33:42.600 --> 33:44.100]  So we're gonna go in and we're gonna buy
[33:44.100 --> 33:46.500]  two billion dollars worth of these vaccines
[33:46.500 --> 33:48.100]  from Pfizer and Moderna.
[33:48.100 --> 33:49.500]  We're gonna force people to take them.
[33:49.500 --> 33:50.800]  He goes, so I'm looking at this, I'm saying,
[33:50.800 --> 33:52.400]  well, I'm gonna get some 20% warrants.
[33:52.400 --> 33:53.300]  I want some action of that.
[33:53.300 --> 33:55.000]  I know what's gonna happen with all this.
[33:55.000 --> 33:57.500]  And he says, and who have we harmed with all this stuff?
[33:57.500 --> 34:00.300]  It's like the people who got the shot, obviously.
[34:00.300 --> 34:02.300]  But he doesn't even see that.
[34:02.300 --> 34:05.600]  He sees nothing but dollar signs.
[34:05.600 --> 34:07.700]  This is the guy, of course, that is now
[34:07.700 --> 34:10.200]  the Commerce Secretary for Trump,
[34:10.200 --> 34:12.900]  and he's the guy who's pushing through the stable coins
[34:12.900 --> 34:14.500]  and all the rest of this stuff.
[34:14.500 --> 34:17.300]  Makes you wonder what he is going to be doing to us
[34:17.300 --> 34:19.600]  with the stable coins and the resetting
[34:19.600 --> 34:21.700]  of the financial system.
[34:21.700 --> 34:25.100]  These are people who see nothing other than money
[34:25.100 --> 34:28.700]  and they don't care what they have to do to other people
[34:28.700 --> 34:29.700]  in order to make money.
[34:29.700 --> 34:32.700]  It truly is amazing, the greed in the system
[34:32.700 --> 34:33.500]  and the corruption.
[34:33.500 --> 34:35.100]  Right.
[34:35.100 --> 34:37.500]  It is so hard for me to wrap my brain around
[34:37.500 --> 34:40.300]  how many people they killed.
[34:40.300 --> 34:44.600]  It was a silent genocide that is still invisible,
[34:44.600 --> 34:47.000]  but there's no family that I can,
[34:47.000 --> 34:48.800]  that I've talked to in the last five years
[34:48.800 --> 34:51.200]  that hasn't been touched by it in some way.
[34:51.200 --> 34:54.300]  Either someone they know is suffering from cancer
[34:54.300 --> 34:58.500]  or some horrible chronic condition after getting the shot
[34:58.500 --> 34:59.700]  or they've lost somebody.
[34:59.700 --> 35:02.800]  Like I lost my cousin who was 17
[35:02.800 --> 35:04.600]  who suddenly just drove into a tree
[35:04.600 --> 35:07.900]  and they didn't do an autopsy or look into it.
[35:07.900 --> 35:12.100]  And there's countless other people out there like that.
[35:12.100 --> 35:14.500]  I mean this was our family
[35:14.500 --> 35:16.300]  and people are still just kind of
[35:16.300 --> 35:17.600]  burying their heads in the sand
[35:17.600 --> 35:20.600]  and wanting to go on like it didn't happen.
[35:20.600 --> 35:21.500]  The amazing thing is...
[35:21.500 --> 35:23.000]  But our system is still set up
[35:23.000 --> 35:25.700]  to where it could still happen again.
[35:25.700 --> 35:28.400]  Like we haven't even held those people accountable.
[35:28.400 --> 35:31.000]  As a matter of fact, we put them back in office again.
[35:31.000 --> 35:34.300]  And so, you know, that's why to me,
[35:34.300 --> 35:37.900]  I look at it and what astounds me the most
[35:37.900 --> 35:42.000]  is just how effective the control of information has been.
[35:42.000 --> 35:44.000]  That's why what you're doing is so important.
[35:44.000 --> 35:46.400]  You've got to get out there and tell people what happened.
[35:46.400 --> 35:47.600]  Because as you point out,
[35:47.600 --> 35:50.100]  almost everybody I know as well,
[35:50.100 --> 35:51.900]  there's been somebody in their family,
[35:51.900 --> 35:54.600]  immediate or extended family that's been harmed by this.
[35:54.600 --> 35:56.800]  But everybody thinks that this is a one-off.
[35:56.800 --> 35:58.600]  It didn't happen to everybody else.
[35:58.600 --> 36:00.000]  They don't realize that it happened,
[36:00.000 --> 36:02.800]  how broad this is and how extensive it is.
[36:02.900 --> 36:04.400]  And they think that they're alone.
[36:04.400 --> 36:06.600]  Just like they wanted us to think that we were alone
[36:06.600 --> 36:08.400]  if we saw what was happening
[36:08.400 --> 36:10.200]  and we weren't going to participate in it.
[36:10.200 --> 36:12.400]  Well, you're the only one who thinks like that.
[36:12.400 --> 36:13.800]  And we're not.
[36:13.800 --> 36:15.100]  You know, there's a lot of people out there
[36:15.100 --> 36:16.700]  who saw what was happening
[36:16.700 --> 36:19.400]  and were onto this scam from the very beginning.
[36:19.400 --> 36:22.600]  And I had the help of a person
[36:22.600 --> 36:25.500]  who gave me a heads up about a year before this happened.
[36:25.500 --> 36:29.300]  He said, there's a lot of chatter about Dark Winter 2.
[36:29.300 --> 36:30.900]  And he goes, you know what Dark Winter 1 was?
[36:30.900 --> 36:32.200]  And I was like, yeah, I know about that.
[36:32.200 --> 36:34.200]  And so when I saw this,
[36:34.200 --> 36:37.000]  it was falling right in the pattern of all these germ games.
[36:37.000 --> 36:39.800]  The very first one was two months before 9-11.
[36:39.800 --> 36:42.100]  So I knew exactly what was happening with this.
[36:42.100 --> 36:44.000]  And I also knew about the PCR test
[36:44.000 --> 36:45.100]  and what Kerry Mullis had said.
[36:45.100 --> 36:47.800]  Talk a little bit about what you saw with the PCR.
[36:49.000 --> 36:51.500]  Right, so that was another part of the Pandora's box
[36:51.500 --> 36:55.400]  that changed right at the beginning of March 2020
[36:55.400 --> 36:57.300]  when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve
[36:57.300 --> 36:59.900]  and changed our whole lives upside down.
[36:59.900 --> 37:01.100]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[37:01.300 --> 37:04.300]  I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute
[37:04.300 --> 37:07.100]  and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[37:07.100 --> 37:09.000]  She lives in a remote community
[37:09.000 --> 37:13.100]  with very few resources and little to no healthcare.
[37:13.100 --> 37:15.100]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[37:15.100 --> 37:17.200]  her parents have no real options,
[37:17.200 --> 37:19.400]  no doctors in their community
[37:19.400 --> 37:22.800]  and no money for real medical care.
[37:22.800 --> 37:25.500]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[37:25.500 --> 37:28.800]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom,
[37:28.900 --> 37:31.700]  I can't take the pain anymore.
[37:31.700 --> 37:33.500]  I can't keep going.
[37:33.500 --> 37:36.200]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[37:36.200 --> 37:37.800]  who tried everything,
[37:37.800 --> 37:40.100]  but she needed a private hospital.
[37:40.100 --> 37:43.600]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[37:43.600 --> 37:47.400]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[37:47.400 --> 37:50.600]  Now through compassion, Alejandra was treated
[37:50.600 --> 37:53.700]  and against all odds, she survived.
[37:53.700 --> 37:57.600]  She lived because someone just like you took action.
[37:57.700 --> 37:59.200]  Right now, unfortunately,
[37:59.200 --> 38:01.600]  there are children just like Alejandra
[38:01.600 --> 38:05.300]  who won't survive unless someone like you steps in.
[38:05.300 --> 38:09.100]  Compassion International partners with local churches
[38:09.100 --> 38:12.100]  providing children with the support that they need,
[38:12.100 --> 38:16.100]  critical medical care, plus food, education,
[38:16.100 --> 38:20.200]  and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
[38:20.200 --> 38:24.000]  So help a child just like Alejandra today.
[38:24.000 --> 38:26.500]  You can visit Compassion.com.
[38:26.600 --> 38:29.500]  That's Compassion.com.
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[38:59.800 --> 39:04.100]  I noticed that before COVID,
[39:04.100 --> 39:06.800]  I worked in a university lab when I was in college
[39:06.800 --> 39:10.100]  and we had what's called a rapid flu test.
[39:10.100 --> 39:11.100]  And it was something that way,
[39:11.100 --> 39:14.700]  it was a nose swab too, or it could be a saliva swab,
[39:14.700 --> 39:16.400]  but it wasn't something that went all the way up
[39:16.400 --> 39:19.700]  to your brain like the COVID PCR swab did.
[39:20.800 --> 39:23.200]  And even the instructions like us in the lab
[39:23.500 --> 39:26.100]  assistance, one of the number one things we did
[39:26.100 --> 39:28.900]  was coach people on how to collect specimens properly
[39:28.900 --> 39:30.400]  because it was our job to like screen them,
[39:30.400 --> 39:34.200]  make sure they were gonna work for the test.
[39:34.200 --> 39:36.800]  And if they weren't in a correct format
[39:36.800 --> 39:38.200]  to accept for the test,
[39:38.200 --> 39:40.200]  then we'd have to tell the nurse or doctor,
[39:40.200 --> 39:42.600]  we need you to go recollect that specimen.
[39:42.600 --> 39:44.100]  So these rapid flu tests,
[39:44.100 --> 39:45.600]  they had to be done within 15 minutes.
[39:45.600 --> 39:47.500]  And it was basically a PCR test.
[39:47.500 --> 39:52.200]  It didn't have the same cycle threshold part.
[39:52.200 --> 39:55.900]  So it was kind of a predecessor to the COVID-19 PCR test,
[39:56.800 --> 39:58.700]  but it wasn't done on every patient
[39:58.700 --> 40:02.000]  that had a cold or flu symptom or a pneumonia at all.
[40:02.000 --> 40:04.700]  It was only done on patients that came in
[40:04.700 --> 40:08.400]  like with a recurrent pneumonia that they couldn't cure
[40:08.400 --> 40:09.900]  or a recurrent cold.
[40:09.900 --> 40:12.500]  And it would be done to try and figure out
[40:12.500 --> 40:14.500]  which types of medications
[40:14.500 --> 40:16.900]  this particular disease would respond to.
[40:16.900 --> 40:19.200]  So it was like a case by case basis.
[40:19.200 --> 40:21.800]  It wasn't just everybody that walked into the hospital.
[40:21.800 --> 40:24.000]  And so when COVID-19 came around and they said,
[40:24.000 --> 40:27.800]  you need to stick this all the way up into people's brains,
[40:27.800 --> 40:29.200]  no saliva.
[40:29.200 --> 40:32.900]  And it has to be on every single person.
[40:32.900 --> 40:35.400]  Cause I mean, it really flipped it at one point.
[40:35.400 --> 40:37.800]  It went from, you can't get the PCR test
[40:37.800 --> 40:39.900]  like cause they had a drive-through
[40:39.900 --> 40:42.900]  where you could go out into society at first.
[40:42.900 --> 40:45.300]  And you have to go to one of these PCR testing centers
[40:45.300 --> 40:47.100]  and they'd say, you have to have symptoms.
[40:47.100 --> 40:48.600]  You can't get it unless you have symptoms.
[40:48.600 --> 40:49.700]  And then people were mad
[40:49.700 --> 40:51.700]  that they couldn't get the PCR test.
[40:51.700 --> 40:54.000]  And then like overnight it flipped to now
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.200]  everybody has to get it for everything.
[40:56.200 --> 40:57.900]  You have to get it if you walk in the ER,
[40:57.900 --> 40:59.800]  even if you don't have COVID symptoms.
[40:59.800 --> 41:00.900]  And I thought that was weird.
[41:00.900 --> 41:02.800]  We never did that before.
[41:02.800 --> 41:06.000]  That is not supposed to be a screening test.
[41:06.000 --> 41:08.000]  It's supposed to be a diagnostic test.
[41:08.000 --> 41:10.500]  Cause a screen is down when you don't have symptoms.
[41:10.500 --> 41:14.600]  It's trying to rule out if you're developing something.
[41:14.600 --> 41:17.600]  And they were telling us asymptomatic spread.
[41:17.600 --> 41:19.000]  Well, I could see in the hospital,
[41:19.000 --> 41:21.300]  there's no such thing as asymptomatic spread.
[41:21.300 --> 41:25.000]  This six feet thing is made up, masks don't work.
[41:25.000 --> 41:26.600]  I knew that from the very beginning
[41:26.600 --> 41:29.700]  because masks in the hospital had only been used
[41:29.700 --> 41:33.300]  for like collecting spittle over like a surgery case.
[41:33.300 --> 41:35.600]  It wasn't meant to like prevent germ spread.
[41:35.600 --> 41:39.500]  That was never part of our infection control.
[41:39.500 --> 41:43.100]  So I knew there was something up with these PCR tests.
[41:43.100 --> 41:44.800]  And I kept looking at the results.
[41:44.800 --> 41:48.400]  And finally I find that it's done by PCR.
[41:48.400 --> 41:50.800]  And I recall my time at a university lab
[41:50.800 --> 41:52.500]  and we were just starting PCR testing.
[41:52.500 --> 41:54.300]  Cause this was early 2000s.
[41:54.300 --> 41:56.500]  And Mollis invented it like late 86
[41:56.500 --> 42:00.900]  is when the NIH took it up and started using PCR.
[42:00.900 --> 42:03.300]  So it got into healthcare early 2000s.
[42:03.300 --> 42:06.100]  And all the techs, like my mom was a medical technologist.
[42:06.100 --> 42:08.700]  It was her job, which she actually ran one of these labs.
[42:08.700 --> 42:11.600]  It was her job to run those tests.
[42:11.600 --> 42:15.500]  And they were all talking like this was like their new tech.
[42:15.500 --> 42:18.500]  Like they were a kid at a candy store excited about it.
[42:18.500 --> 42:19.500]  This PCR thing.
[42:19.500 --> 42:22.000]  But it was all genetic testing was genetic.
[42:22.000 --> 42:24.100]  It was done for cancer screening,
[42:24.100 --> 42:25.100]  which they thought was genetic.
[42:25.100 --> 42:29.300]  And it was done for like women that would like,
[42:29.300 --> 42:31.600]  they would call it genetic counseling.
[42:31.600 --> 42:34.700]  If you're a couple and you're a female and you go
[42:34.700 --> 42:36.100]  and you want to have genetic counseling,
[42:36.100 --> 42:40.400]  you can see if you have like a hereditary disease
[42:40.400 --> 42:42.300]  like Huntington's and then maybe decide
[42:42.300 --> 42:46.500]  if you want to continue with procreation or not.
[42:46.500 --> 42:47.900]  So it was genetic.
[42:47.900 --> 42:50.800]  So I thought, why all of a sudden are we testing
[42:50.800 --> 42:52.600]  for viruses with PCR?
[42:52.600 --> 42:55.100]  Well, while I wasn't looking because in for 10 years
[42:55.100 --> 42:56.200]  I was a medical coder.
[42:56.200 --> 42:58.300]  So I wasn't really looking at what was going on
[42:58.300 --> 43:00.900]  in the lab until COVID happened.
[43:00.900 --> 43:04.900]  So then I find it's by PCR and I start looking at,
[43:04.900 --> 43:07.900]  well, there's obviously this problem with false positives.
[43:07.900 --> 43:10.500]  Even Elon Musk was saying, I got two tests in one day.
[43:10.500 --> 43:12.500]  One of them was negative, one of them was positive.
[43:12.500 --> 43:15.100]  And I could see the hospital was running over and over
[43:15.500 --> 43:18.400]  these PCR tests, waiting to get a positive result
[43:18.400 --> 43:20.100]  if they didn't get the right result.
[43:20.100 --> 43:23.100]  And I'm like, this doesn't make any sense.
[43:23.100 --> 43:25.000]  What is going on here?
[43:25.000 --> 43:29.600]  And it fast forward to like after the PCR test evolved
[43:29.600 --> 43:33.000]  a little bit toward the end of 2020 into 2021,
[43:34.700 --> 43:38.100]  they had what's called a PCR multiplex assay.
[43:38.100 --> 43:39.800]  So it was four different viruses
[43:39.800 --> 43:41.600]  they were actually monitoring.
[43:41.700 --> 43:46.400]  Flu A, Flu B, RSV and COVID-19.
[43:47.500 --> 43:50.300]  And then the only one that ever came up positive
[43:50.300 --> 43:52.800]  out of a whole year of running all four
[43:52.800 --> 43:55.200]  of these viruses was COVID.
[43:56.300 --> 43:59.700]  Not one flu, not one RSV.
[43:59.700 --> 44:02.000]  And they say we have a RSV pandemic now.
[44:03.100 --> 44:04.400]  It's such an amazing thing.
[44:04.400 --> 44:06.300]  And you know, we go back and we used to play the clips
[44:06.300 --> 44:08.800]  all the time of Mollus calling out Fauci
[44:08.800 --> 44:12.800]  because you know, Fauci used the PCR test
[44:13.700 --> 44:17.100]  to claim that AIDS was caused by a virus.
[44:17.100 --> 44:20.200]  And that created a big back and forth between them.
[44:20.200 --> 44:22.700]  And Mollus said, well, I'm not gonna get involved
[44:22.700 --> 44:25.200]  in that fight, but I'll tell you this
[44:25.200 --> 44:28.600]  that you can't prove it using the PCR test.
[44:28.600 --> 44:30.700]  It can't be used as a diagnostic like that.
[44:30.700 --> 44:32.900]  And so it was very interesting
[44:32.900 --> 44:35.500]  because they also did not isolate the HIV,
[44:36.100 --> 44:39.300]  the virus that supposedly caused AIDS either.
[44:39.300 --> 44:41.900]  And so this whole thing has been kind of a bluff.
[44:41.900 --> 44:46.200]  What it reminds me of Zoe is the polygraph tests.
[44:46.200 --> 44:48.500]  My wife used to be a district personnel manager
[44:48.500 --> 44:50.100]  for convenience stores and what they would do
[44:50.100 --> 44:53.000]  if they would have massive shortages somewhere
[44:53.000 --> 44:54.100]  and they thought there was theft
[44:54.100 --> 44:55.800]  that was going on with the employees,
[44:55.800 --> 44:57.900]  they would call them in and polygraph them.
[44:57.900 --> 45:00.300]  And the polygraph did not work,
[45:00.300 --> 45:03.000]  but it only worked if people believed
[45:03.000 --> 45:07.100]  that it could tell them whether or not they were lying.
[45:07.100 --> 45:08.700]  And then they would tell the truth about it
[45:08.700 --> 45:10.100]  and make a confession, right?
[45:10.100 --> 45:11.500]  So it was simply a mind game
[45:11.500 --> 45:13.700]  that was being played on the people that were there.
[45:13.700 --> 45:16.600]  And that's what the PCR thing is.
[45:16.600 --> 45:18.000]  It really is a mind game,
[45:18.000 --> 45:20.700]  except that it's become something of a lie detector
[45:20.700 --> 45:22.200]  for the people who are administering it.
[45:22.200 --> 45:24.700]  We realize now that they are the liars
[45:24.700 --> 45:26.100]  who are putting this stuff out.
[45:26.100 --> 45:29.100]  I just had in a comment, Lance put up my producer,
[45:29.100 --> 45:31.300]  he said that video of Lutnick where he's talking about that
[45:31.300 --> 45:34.200]  reminds him of this scene out of the big short,
[45:34.200 --> 45:36.200]  which we just went back and watched again
[45:36.200 --> 45:38.300]  because of the AI bubble.
[45:38.300 --> 45:41.600]  And at one point this guy gets up and he's talking
[45:41.600 --> 45:44.700]  and one of the guys who's onto the whole scam says,
[45:44.700 --> 45:46.200]  why is he confessing?
[45:46.200 --> 45:49.200]  And the other guy says, he's not confessing, he's bragging.
[45:50.400 --> 45:52.200]  And that's basically what Lutnick was doing,
[45:52.200 --> 45:54.000]  he wasn't confessing about all this stuff,
[45:54.000 --> 45:55.500]  he was bragging about it.
[45:55.500 --> 45:58.200]  And he continues to get away with this kind of stuff.
[45:58.200 --> 45:59.100]  It truly is amazing.
[45:59.100 --> 46:03.000]  Yeah, well, what's even more nefarious about the PCR test
[46:03.000 --> 46:06.000]  is, so the false positive narrative,
[46:06.000 --> 46:08.300]  that is only, it's about the cycle threshold,
[46:08.300 --> 46:12.200]  but you're correct, they didn't actually sequence the,
[46:12.200 --> 46:14.500]  they didn't sequence SARS-CoV-2,
[46:14.500 --> 46:17.200]  so they never had a sequence.
[46:17.200 --> 46:19.800]  They have what's called a consensus sequence,
[46:19.800 --> 46:23.200]  which is an average that an AI came up with.
[46:23.200 --> 46:24.400]  And that's what they use
[46:24.400 --> 46:25.900]  because they knew they would find this
[46:25.900 --> 46:27.600]  in a percentage of people.
[46:27.600 --> 46:29.000]  And then they could dial it in
[46:29.000 --> 46:31.200]  with the cycle threshold up or down.
[46:31.200 --> 46:32.700]  Same thing with the AIDS thing,
[46:32.700 --> 46:34.300]  they never isolated AIDS
[46:34.300 --> 46:37.000]  and they used their antibody tests at first,
[46:37.000 --> 46:38.500]  which could be dialed up or down
[46:38.500 --> 46:40.700]  in the same way as the cycle threshold.
[46:40.700 --> 46:43.100]  And David Rasnick, PhD, who I've interviewed,
[46:43.100 --> 46:44.500]  can vouch for that,
[46:44.500 --> 46:47.000]  and he's got all the science on his webpage
[46:47.000 --> 46:48.300]  to prove all of that.
[46:49.200 --> 46:52.100]  But I was looking past the cycle threshold
[46:52.100 --> 46:55.500]  because I knew this test is dialed in for some reason,
[46:55.500 --> 46:58.500]  like they can predict the results somehow,
[46:58.500 --> 47:02.000]  and I needed to know how they were manipulating the test.
[47:02.000 --> 47:03.800]  And so I looked a little bit further
[47:03.800 --> 47:06.500]  and I find a document from the CDC
[47:06.500 --> 47:11.000]  that says for every COVID test, every CLIA certified lab.
[47:11.000 --> 47:12.200]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson,
[47:12.200 --> 47:14.300]  and I want you to pause what you're doing
[47:14.300 --> 47:15.400]  for just one minute,
[47:15.400 --> 47:19.700]  and I want you to hear about love, generosity, and compassion.
[47:19.700 --> 47:21.600]  We say those words all the time,
[47:21.600 --> 47:24.000]  and they sound good, they feel good.
[47:24.000 --> 47:25.400]  But here's the truth.
[47:25.400 --> 47:27.400]  Those words don't mean anything
[47:27.400 --> 47:29.700]  unless they turn into action.
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[47:33.200 --> 47:34.800]  there's a child in the world
[47:34.800 --> 47:37.500]  who doesn't know if they'll eat,
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[47:39.600 --> 47:42.100]  or if there's any hope at all.
[47:42.100 --> 47:46.100]  And while we're all busy, life keeps moving forward,
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[48:48.800 --> 48:50.600]  Which is all of them.
[48:50.600 --> 48:52.300]  They all have to be in order to build insurance
[48:52.300 --> 48:55.400]  or anything, have to be CLIA certified.
[48:55.400 --> 48:59.500]  Then they have to send a genetic sequence
[48:59.500 --> 49:01.400]  to one of two gene banks,
[49:01.400 --> 49:06.400]  either NCBI or G-I-S-A-I-D gene banks.
[49:07.500 --> 49:10.000]  And it listed like eight different sequences.
[49:10.000 --> 49:14.100]  So they're saying, you know, the variance in the details.
[49:14.100 --> 49:18.300]  But if you look at some of these labs
[49:18.300 --> 49:20.000]  that were running PCR tests
[49:20.100 --> 49:23.600]  and making all the money off running these PCR tests,
[49:23.600 --> 49:27.200]  they could also take that same sample off that machine,
[49:27.200 --> 49:30.300]  put it on another machine, run a sequence.
[49:30.300 --> 49:32.400]  And they needed to, in order to comply
[49:32.400 --> 49:35.600]  with the CDC's directive to send genetic sequences
[49:35.600 --> 49:37.300]  to these gene banks.
[49:37.300 --> 49:38.800]  And I interviewed David Rasnick,
[49:38.800 --> 49:41.000]  who is a chemistry professor who worked
[49:41.000 --> 49:43.200]  with Kerry Mullis and knew Kerry Mullis.
[49:43.200 --> 49:45.300]  I asked him directly, do you think
[49:45.300 --> 49:48.800]  that they were just clipping a tiny little section
[49:48.800 --> 49:52.800]  of the genetic code and then sending it to these gene banks?
[49:52.800 --> 49:55.100]  Or do you think they were getting the entire sequence?
[49:55.100 --> 49:57.600]  And he says, well, they're running a lab.
[49:57.600 --> 49:58.600]  They're busy.
[49:58.600 --> 50:01.100]  They're not really thinking about, you know,
[50:01.100 --> 50:03.400]  taking the time to clip out a sequence.
[50:03.400 --> 50:04.400]  So could they?
[50:04.400 --> 50:05.100]  Yes.
[50:05.100 --> 50:06.800]  But would they really do that?
[50:06.800 --> 50:08.500]  No, it'd be so much easier for them
[50:08.500 --> 50:09.800]  to just send the whole thing
[50:09.800 --> 50:12.700]  and then let the gene bank decide which part
[50:12.700 --> 50:16.800]  that they want to determine is the variance of concern.
[50:17.500 --> 50:18.000]  Wow.
[50:18.000 --> 50:19.400]  So they were.
[50:19.400 --> 50:21.600]  And you look at the different gene banks.
[50:21.600 --> 50:23.900]  There's one called DataVance, which is now
[50:23.900 --> 50:25.800]  a public-private partnership.
[50:25.800 --> 50:32.000]  You look at the Human Genome Project, which is now BGI Genetics,
[50:32.000 --> 50:35.000]  I think, in China, which is their biggest biotech company.
[50:35.000 --> 50:37.700]  And there's billions of billions of dollars
[50:37.700 --> 50:40.200]  in collecting our DNA.
[50:40.200 --> 50:43.100]  And what they say they're using it for is to.
[50:43.100 --> 50:45.200]  And now we have Larry Ellison actually
[50:45.200 --> 50:47.800]  admitting it day two of the Trump administration
[50:47.800 --> 50:49.600]  that they're going to use AI, which is what
[50:49.600 --> 50:51.500]  they use to get the consensus sequence
[50:51.500 --> 50:55.200]  that they dial the PCR test in with.
[50:55.200 --> 50:57.700]  They're going to use AI to look at our blood
[50:57.700 --> 51:01.600]  and then make a drug or a therapeutic
[51:01.600 --> 51:06.200]  or a vaccine tailored to our individual genome.
[51:06.200 --> 51:08.000]  And now there's a massive industry
[51:08.000 --> 51:10.000]  of all these big tech oligarchs that
[51:10.000 --> 51:13.900]  are using AI to develop different vaccines
[51:13.900 --> 51:17.300]  or different therapeutics, biotech therapeutics tailored
[51:17.300 --> 51:18.800]  to the individual genome.
[51:18.800 --> 51:21.300]  So whether or not they're successful with this technology,
[51:21.300 --> 51:23.900]  there's a whole bunch of money invested in it.
[51:23.900 --> 51:28.200]  So I think PCR was actually a data mining operation,
[51:28.200 --> 51:30.200]  as well as a money laundering operation.
[51:30.200 --> 51:31.000]  That's interesting.
[51:31.000 --> 51:31.500]  Yeah.
[51:31.500 --> 51:34.500]  And of course, if they want to make a bioweapon that's
[51:34.500 --> 51:36.900]  going to target certain groups of people,
[51:36.900 --> 51:39.400]  that makes it very easy to do that as well.
[51:39.400 --> 51:41.400]  And when you look at the PCR, Handy,
[51:41.400 --> 51:43.000]  who also has a Substack.
[51:43.000 --> 51:45.300]  And he's been a regular listener and commenter
[51:45.300 --> 51:46.400]  on the program.
[51:46.400 --> 51:48.500]  He worked in hospitals.
[51:48.500 --> 51:51.600]  And he said he was suspicious of these things.
[51:51.600 --> 51:55.800]  Finally got a nurse to take one of these swabs
[51:55.800 --> 51:59.000]  right out of the package and run it through and got
[51:59.000 --> 52:02.400]  a positive test without swapping anybody.
[52:02.400 --> 52:04.800]  So some of these, it was such garbage.
[52:04.800 --> 52:06.900]  I mean, either it's preloaded with something,
[52:06.900 --> 52:11.000]  or the PCR test is just so off the charts with its magnification
[52:11.000 --> 52:11.500]  or whatever.
[52:11.500 --> 52:13.500]  You can find anything anywhere, as Kerry Mullis said.
[52:13.500 --> 52:15.800]  Well, didn't the president of Tanzania,
[52:15.800 --> 52:18.900]  I think he did some PCR tests on like a papaya
[52:18.900 --> 52:22.100]  and like a Coca-Cola and got positive results, too?
[52:22.100 --> 52:22.600]  That's right.
[52:22.600 --> 52:24.600]  It's total nonsense and garbage.
[52:24.600 --> 52:27.500]  And I remember when they had the Cannes Film Festival,
[52:27.500 --> 52:29.900]  it was in the summer of 2020.
[52:29.900 --> 52:32.300]  And you had all these elitists who somehow they
[52:32.300 --> 52:34.000]  got there, I guess, on their private jets
[52:34.000 --> 52:35.500]  and didn't have to get screened too much.
[52:35.500 --> 52:36.900]  But anyway, they're there.
[52:36.900 --> 52:40.100]  And they were complaining that they had to do spit tests.
[52:40.100 --> 52:41.400]  And I said, that's disgusting.
[52:41.400 --> 52:43.400]  We've got to spit in this thing, and they've got to test it,
[52:43.400 --> 52:44.100]  and so forth.
[52:44.100 --> 52:47.900]  I said, yeah, so why don't they allow us to do a spit test?
[52:47.900 --> 52:50.400]  They've got to ram that thing up your nose,
[52:50.400 --> 52:51.300]  but you don't get that.
[52:51.300 --> 52:54.500]  But the elites, the jet setters, the private jets,
[52:54.500 --> 52:56.500]  they get the spit test or whatever.
[52:56.500 --> 52:58.400]  Oh my god, that's funny.
[52:58.400 --> 53:00.000]  All this stuff was just so ridiculous.
[53:00.000 --> 53:01.600]  When I worked in the university lab,
[53:01.600 --> 53:04.200]  there was something called sputum testing,
[53:04.200 --> 53:05.500]  which is exactly that.
[53:05.500 --> 53:07.800]  Basically, you hook a loogie into a cup,
[53:07.900 --> 53:10.700]  and it was the most disgusting sample
[53:10.700 --> 53:13.500]  I ever had to deal with when I worked in the lab.
[53:13.500 --> 53:15.300]  And I make a joke in my book.
[53:15.300 --> 53:20.100]  We all were spared that they didn't make that the test
[53:20.100 --> 53:22.500]  that we had to do.
[53:22.500 --> 53:24.800]  But you're telling me that's what the elites do.
[53:24.800 --> 53:27.300]  Yeah, I think that's preferable to having that thing ram
[53:27.300 --> 53:28.200]  rotted up your nose.
[53:28.200 --> 53:30.100]  I guess I didn't have that done to me.
[53:30.100 --> 53:32.300]  So I went through the whole thing
[53:32.300 --> 53:34.000]  without having a PCR test.
[53:34.000 --> 53:35.200]  Sorry, go ahead.
[53:35.200 --> 53:36.000]  Me neither.
[53:36.100 --> 53:38.300]  That was another reason why I walked out,
[53:38.300 --> 53:41.500]  because if I were to stay in the hospital
[53:41.500 --> 53:44.900]  or stay working for them and get the exemption,
[53:44.900 --> 53:47.700]  then I was going to have to take a PCR test every week.
[53:47.700 --> 53:50.000]  And I didn't want to have to take a PCR test.
[53:50.000 --> 53:53.000]  I was pretty sure they were going to be collecting our DNA
[53:53.000 --> 53:56.700]  with it or sensing if we're vaccinated or not
[53:56.700 --> 53:59.100]  or somehow tying that in with the vaccine passport.
[53:59.100 --> 54:01.300]  I wasn't entirely sure how it was going to work,
[54:01.300 --> 54:04.300]  but I knew that it wasn't what they were telling us,
[54:04.300 --> 54:06.400]  and I wasn't about to play long.
[54:06.400 --> 54:08.400]  So that was another reason why I couldn't.
[54:08.400 --> 54:10.000]  And of course, the other things, too,
[54:10.000 --> 54:13.600]  were some people did some zoomed in on the microscope looking
[54:13.600 --> 54:16.400]  at the tip of the swab and said, look at this.
[54:16.400 --> 54:19.400]  Here's one of the cotton swab, and here's this PCR thing.
[54:19.400 --> 54:20.800]  It's got all these spikes on it.
[54:20.800 --> 54:23.200]  And if I run it across some of these things,
[54:23.200 --> 54:24.700]  those spikes stick and stay.
[54:24.700 --> 54:28.600]  So are they actually implanting something into you?
[54:28.600 --> 54:30.600]  I did some research on it, and I
[54:30.700 --> 54:34.500]  found there were two chemicals on the tip of the swab.
[54:34.500 --> 54:37.600]  One of them was ethylene oxide, and that alone can like,
[54:37.600 --> 54:39.800]  they were putting it way up in your nose,
[54:39.800 --> 54:42.400]  where your pineal gland is your third eye, which
[54:42.400 --> 54:44.000]  is right at the top.
[54:44.000 --> 54:48.400]  So putting that chemical right there is known to cause cancer.
[54:48.400 --> 54:50.800]  And so the more you do it, the more personagenic
[54:50.800 --> 54:51.600]  it's going to be.
[54:51.600 --> 54:53.600]  And then it also has a chemical property
[54:53.600 --> 54:57.800]  where it will basically block and calcify your pineal gland
[54:57.800 --> 54:59.600]  so it closes your third eye.
[55:00.100 --> 55:02.900]  It's also a way that your brain can sense light.
[55:02.900 --> 55:08.000]  It's how your body basically synchronizes hormones
[55:08.000 --> 55:11.900]  throughout your whole body so it can change your whole endocrine
[55:11.900 --> 55:17.200]  system if you close or calcify your pineal gland.
[55:17.200 --> 55:18.900]  So all sorts of things could happen just
[55:18.900 --> 55:20.400]  with that one chemical.
[55:20.400 --> 55:23.400]  But I think there was also graphene oxide on there.
[55:23.400 --> 55:25.700]  There was different schools that said
[55:25.700 --> 55:30.000]  they had been given these special masks even that had
[55:30.000 --> 55:33.600]  graphene in them similar, like the exact same phenomenon
[55:33.600 --> 55:38.000]  about the fibers that actually move and respond to magnetics.
[55:38.000 --> 55:41.300]  Well, graphene oxide has a magnetic property to it.
[55:41.300 --> 55:43.900]  That's why they wanted to use it.
[55:43.900 --> 55:46.500]  But it's also supposed to be clean.
[55:46.500 --> 55:48.200]  So they were saying, like, we're using this
[55:48.200 --> 55:55.000]  to make it antibacterial because it has antibacterial properties.
[55:55.000 --> 55:58.800]  But both the swabs and some of the masks
[55:58.800 --> 56:04.600]  had graphene fibers in them that could maybe do that.
[56:04.600 --> 56:07.600]  And I have no idea what that would do
[56:07.600 --> 56:10.700]  if you shove it up your nose over and over and over.
[56:10.700 --> 56:12.700]  So if they can inject the graphene into you,
[56:12.700 --> 56:14.900]  they can get it in there another way.
[56:14.900 --> 56:17.100]  And of course, I've mentioned this many times too.
[56:17.100 --> 56:18.900]  There's a couple of different batches,
[56:18.900 --> 56:22.900]  each of them over a million of these shots in Japan.
[56:22.900 --> 56:25.600]  And they noticed that they were getting black particulates.
[56:25.600 --> 56:27.400]  I don't know if it happened because they didn't keep them
[56:27.400 --> 56:29.800]  at the super cold temperatures or whatever.
[56:29.800 --> 56:33.100]  But they noticed black particulates.
[56:33.100 --> 56:36.900]  And they said they reacted with magnets.
[56:36.900 --> 56:39.500]  Yeah, so what is that?
[56:39.500 --> 56:40.700]  End of story.
[56:40.700 --> 56:42.400]  No more talking about that.
[56:42.400 --> 56:44.100]  And the Japanese government threw away
[56:44.100 --> 56:45.900]  a couple million of these vaccines
[56:45.900 --> 56:47.300]  because of that type of thing.
[56:47.300 --> 56:50.300]  But yeah, there's just so many issues there.
[56:50.300 --> 56:54.900]  And people have been lied to so thoroughly about all this.
[56:54.900 --> 56:57.100]  That's why it's not a dead issue.
[56:57.100 --> 56:58.300]  It is still alive.
[56:58.300 --> 57:00.700]  And they're going to try to do all this stuff again.
[57:00.700 --> 57:01.900]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[57:01.900 --> 57:05.200]  And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute.
[57:05.200 --> 57:08.500]  And I want you to hear about love, generosity,
[57:08.500 --> 57:09.400]  and compassion.
[57:09.400 --> 57:11.300]  We say those words all the time.
[57:11.300 --> 57:12.600]  And they sound good.
[57:12.600 --> 57:13.700]  They feel good.
[57:13.700 --> 57:15.100]  But here's the truth.
[57:15.100 --> 57:19.500]  Those words don't mean anything unless they turn into action.
[57:19.500 --> 57:22.900]  And right now, not later today, not tomorrow,
[57:22.900 --> 57:27.300]  there's a child in the world who doesn't know if they'll eat,
[57:27.300 --> 57:29.400]  if they'll have a chance to learn,
[57:29.400 --> 57:31.900]  or if there's any hope at all.
[57:31.900 --> 57:35.900]  And while we're all busy, life keeps moving forward.
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[58:39.100 --> 58:41.800]  And since it worked so well, they
[58:41.800 --> 58:43.200]  will use the same tactics again.
[58:43.200 --> 58:44.700]  That's why it's very important to talk
[58:44.700 --> 58:46.500]  about these different tactics.
[58:46.500 --> 58:48.400]  And that's what you do with them.
[58:48.400 --> 58:48.900]  Yes.
[58:48.900 --> 58:49.700]  Right.
[58:49.700 --> 58:52.400]  They're moving forward with the mRNA.
[58:52.400 --> 58:54.900]  I mean, they're not only putting it in our food.
[58:54.900 --> 58:57.400]  Like we've probably heard, I'm sure your audience has heard
[58:57.400 --> 58:58.700]  about the bird flu and how they're
[58:58.700 --> 59:03.300]  doing the self-amplifying bird flu injections for poultry.
[59:03.300 --> 59:05.700]  And they're trying to get it in cattle.
[59:05.700 --> 59:08.500]  And they've had mRNA shots in pork.
[59:08.500 --> 59:12.900]  So almost all the pork is tainted now since like 2018.
[59:12.900 --> 59:14.400]  Now they're rolling it out for pets.
[59:14.400 --> 59:18.000]  So now when you go in, you have to get your annual rabies
[59:18.000 --> 59:19.300]  shot for your pets.
[59:19.300 --> 59:21.200]  Now that's going to be mRNA.
[59:21.200 --> 59:25.600]  They're moving over to the mRNA platform for all the vaccines.
[59:25.600 --> 59:31.000]  So normies who might be a little cautious about COVID-19
[59:31.000 --> 59:34.000]  because they've heard the rumors by now, most of them.
[59:34.000 --> 59:38.900]  But they haven't heard that now your RSV, your flu,
[59:38.900 --> 59:41.100]  and a lot of even like the childhood vaccines
[59:41.100 --> 59:43.600]  are moving over to this mRNA platform
[59:43.600 --> 59:46.700]  where they get to bypass clinical trials.
[59:46.700 --> 59:49.900]  So it still hasn't been, this is an experiment
[59:49.900 --> 59:53.700]  that is now being rolled out to all our vaccines
[59:53.700 --> 59:56.100]  under the guise of, this is totally fine.
[59:56.100 --> 59:57.700]  This is normal science.
[59:57.700 --> 01:00:01.900]  We've totally tested this, but it's absolutely not.
[01:00:01.900 --> 01:00:03.600]  I mean, they've even had.
[01:00:03.600 --> 01:00:04.200]  That's right.
[01:00:04.200 --> 01:00:05.300]  People need to understand.
[01:00:05.300 --> 01:00:08.600]  For like three years, for the first one,
[01:00:08.600 --> 01:00:12.200]  we just barely passed the first part of monitoring.
[01:00:12.200 --> 01:00:13.000]  That's right.
[01:00:13.100 --> 01:00:15.200]  And people need to understand that the guy who boasted
[01:00:15.200 --> 01:00:17.900]  about being the father of the vaccine, first things he did,
[01:00:17.900 --> 01:00:21.000]  as you pointed out, Stargate thing with Larry Ellison,
[01:00:21.000 --> 01:00:22.600]  where he's talking about, well, we're going to use AI
[01:00:22.600 --> 01:00:25.100]  to design, custom design this for your genetics.
[01:00:25.100 --> 01:00:28.100]  And then we will deliver it with an mRNA platform.
[01:00:28.100 --> 01:00:32.100]  And the person that they put in as they chose to put in
[01:00:32.100 --> 01:00:35.000]  at the head of the CDC was Susan Monarez.
[01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:39.400]  And that had been what she was working on with BARDA
[01:00:39.400 --> 01:00:46.400]  and with ARPA-H and these dark bioweapon companies
[01:00:46.400 --> 01:00:48.900]  that are part of the government
[01:00:48.900 --> 01:00:52.000]  and the military industrial complex
[01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:54.800]  and the bioweapon platforms and things like that.
[01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:57.300]  So there's all these different threads
[01:00:57.300 --> 01:01:00.900]  that tie this throughout the Trump administration,
[01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:03.200]  pushing mRNA for all these various things.
[01:01:03.200 --> 01:01:04.700]  And of course then, Brooke Rollins,
[01:01:04.700 --> 01:01:07.200]  who's the agricultural secretary,
[01:01:07.200 --> 01:01:10.000]  she decides on her own initiative
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:14.100]  that she's going to end this mass culling of chickens
[01:01:14.100 --> 01:01:17.600]  by authorizing the mRNA bird flu for chickens,
[01:01:17.600 --> 01:01:21.400]  and then they authorize it for other livestock as well.
[01:01:21.400 --> 01:01:23.300]  It is, the signals are all there,
[01:01:23.300 --> 01:01:25.400]  that this is all still going on,
[01:01:25.400 --> 01:01:29.600]  that Trump is right at the epicenter of all this mRNA stuff.
[01:01:29.600 --> 01:01:33.400]  And I guess what we could call now the mRNA-I,
[01:01:33.400 --> 01:01:35.300]  as in AI, artificial intelligence.
[01:01:35.300 --> 01:01:37.900]  It's all connected together, isn't it?
[01:01:37.900 --> 01:01:38.800]  Absolutely.
[01:01:38.800 --> 01:01:40.300]  It's a giant web.
[01:01:40.300 --> 01:01:45.900]  And it is going to be tied to our behavior scores
[01:01:45.900 --> 01:01:50.300]  and if we comply, how much we comply with it.
[01:01:50.300 --> 01:01:52.900]  Looking at who's monitoring the DNA,
[01:01:52.900 --> 01:01:58.300]  where they have to report the PCR results to,
[01:01:58.300 --> 01:02:02.900]  who's hiding the adverse effects of the vaccine,
[01:02:02.900 --> 01:02:04.200]  putting that all together
[01:02:04.200 --> 01:02:09.400]  and looking at where are they actually,
[01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:12.900]  where are we reporting all of these PCR results
[01:02:12.900 --> 01:02:18.100]  and where are we reporting the COVID-19 case numbers?
[01:02:18.100 --> 01:02:21.600]  And now we actually have a code to report
[01:02:21.600 --> 01:02:23.400]  the COVID-19 adverse effects,
[01:02:23.400 --> 01:02:25.900]  but it's still not being used.
[01:02:25.900 --> 01:02:29.100]  So looking at that and trying to figure out
[01:02:29.100 --> 01:02:33.800]  where the code was and why we're not able to report it still,
[01:02:33.800 --> 01:02:36.000]  I happen to find that every agency
[01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:39.200]  involved in monitoring COVID-19 cases
[01:02:39.200 --> 01:02:42.300]  and vaccination tracking specifically,
[01:02:42.300 --> 01:02:44.500]  because there's so many vaccine registries,
[01:02:44.500 --> 01:02:48.900]  it blows your mind, it's tied to national security.
[01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:51.900]  So it's a matter of national security
[01:02:51.900 --> 01:02:55.500]  if you participate in this scheme or not.
[01:02:55.500 --> 01:02:58.500]  Yeah, this is all DARPA and it's all the military
[01:02:58.500 --> 01:03:00.300]  and the intelligence agencies
[01:03:00.300 --> 01:03:02.900]  and all of the dark winter stuff they had, you know,
[01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.000]  Fauci and the former head of the CIA
[01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:07.400]  was playing the role of the president
[01:03:07.400 --> 01:03:09.700]  during the first germ game of dark winter.
[01:03:09.700 --> 01:03:11.900]  I mean, it's all the usual suspects
[01:03:11.900 --> 01:03:13.400]  that are involved in all this stuff.
[01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.800]  It really is a bioweapon
[01:03:15.800 --> 01:03:19.100]  that is really targeted to the population
[01:03:19.100 --> 01:03:21.200]  and it truly is amazing.
[01:03:21.200 --> 01:03:23.900]  I think they're even going to try and do more data mining,
[01:03:23.900 --> 01:03:27.100]  like go even further than PCR testing
[01:03:27.100 --> 01:03:30.900]  with the wearables rollout that we're getting now,
[01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:33.100]  because the information,
[01:03:33.100 --> 01:03:38.100]  like when I learned that our COVID-19 case numbers,
[01:03:38.100 --> 01:03:41.000]  the PCR test is actually getting reported
[01:03:41.900 --> 01:03:46.300]  to foreign countries and our DNA is being data mined
[01:03:46.300 --> 01:03:49.200]  and they're able to tell if we've had a vaccine or not,
[01:03:49.200 --> 01:03:51.600]  what's our ethnicity, where we are,
[01:03:51.600 --> 01:03:52.600]  how much money we make,
[01:03:52.600 --> 01:03:55.300]  like they're layering all of this information.
[01:03:55.300 --> 01:03:56.900]  And during Operation Work Speed,
[01:03:56.900 --> 01:03:59.700]  they had a program called Tiberius,
[01:03:59.700 --> 01:04:02.400]  which was used in hospitals.
[01:04:02.400 --> 01:04:04.200]  There's different Palantir programs
[01:04:04.200 --> 01:04:05.200]  that are used in hospitals
[01:04:05.200 --> 01:04:09.400]  to monitor and manage the hospital down to Lake Staffing.
[01:04:09.400 --> 01:04:10.400]  There was even a program
[01:04:10.400 --> 01:04:14.700]  that was part of Operation Work Speed called HHS Protect.
[01:04:14.700 --> 01:04:16.100]  And the hospitals had to report
[01:04:16.100 --> 01:04:17.700]  how many ventilators were in use,
[01:04:17.700 --> 01:04:19.400]  how many patients were there.
[01:04:21.400 --> 01:04:23.800]  I don't know why my camera just stopped.
[01:04:23.800 --> 01:04:24.800]  That was weird.
[01:04:24.800 --> 01:04:26.400]  Well, I still have audio.
[01:04:27.300 --> 01:04:29.100]  Literally just, I didn't do it.
[01:04:29.100 --> 01:04:30.100]  You're back, you're back.
[01:04:30.100 --> 01:04:31.400]  That's good, you're back.
[01:04:33.100 --> 01:04:34.700]  So they had this program
[01:04:34.700 --> 01:04:36.800]  that hospitals had to report how many ventilators,
[01:04:36.800 --> 01:04:39.700]  how many patients are in the ICU,
[01:04:39.700 --> 01:04:42.300]  how much remdesivir we were using,
[01:04:42.300 --> 01:04:44.000]  what's our census report,
[01:04:44.000 --> 01:04:45.800]  like all kinds of information
[01:04:45.800 --> 01:04:48.200]  that even the hospital didn't wanna have to report,
[01:04:48.200 --> 01:04:51.500]  in addition to all the other data mining we were doing.
[01:04:51.500 --> 01:04:54.200]  And that program was a Palantir program
[01:04:55.100 --> 01:04:59.600]  called Tiberius, which it's used in Gaza.
[01:04:59.600 --> 01:05:03.500]  And that's the one that they use to assign risk scores.
[01:05:03.500 --> 01:05:05.700]  Well, they used that here already in America
[01:05:05.700 --> 01:05:07.800]  during Operation Work Speed
[01:05:07.800 --> 01:05:09.900]  to figure out if you were vaccinated or not,
[01:05:09.900 --> 01:05:13.500]  to target different ethnic groups for vaccines,
[01:05:13.500 --> 01:05:15.600]  and then to figure out where the countermeasures,
[01:05:15.600 --> 01:05:17.700]  as in where did the ventilators need to go?
[01:05:17.700 --> 01:05:20.600]  Where did the remdesivir need to go?
[01:05:20.600 --> 01:05:24.400]  So they've already had these programs in place
[01:05:24.400 --> 01:05:26.500]  that are tied into our medical records.
[01:05:26.500 --> 01:05:28.800]  And then to hear Larry Ellison say,
[01:05:28.800 --> 01:05:30.700]  we're gonna use your medical records
[01:05:30.700 --> 01:05:33.000]  and your DNA, your personal data,
[01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:35.600]  to design stuff directly to you.
[01:05:35.600 --> 01:05:37.300]  And then in addition, they say,
[01:05:37.300 --> 01:05:39.300]  we're gonna put wearables on you.
[01:05:39.300 --> 01:05:43.300]  They're going to monitor your body at all times
[01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:45.400]  for the purposes of national security.
[01:05:45.400 --> 01:05:47.200]  And I don't know how that doesn't send shivers
[01:05:47.200 --> 01:05:49.600]  down the spine of every single citizen in this country.
[01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:50.500]  Yeah, absolutely.
[01:05:50.500 --> 01:05:52.200]  I mean, we look at their big data thing.
[01:05:52.200 --> 01:05:54.500]  They have to have total information awareness.
[01:05:54.500 --> 01:05:56.600]  Remember how everybody was creeped out about that?
[01:05:56.600 --> 01:05:58.600]  And yet that is what this really is,
[01:05:58.600 --> 01:06:00.000]  the implementation of this.
[01:06:00.000 --> 01:06:02.000]  The big data is looking at everything that you're doing,
[01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:05.100]  not just online, but they've got to get it out of cyberspace
[01:06:05.100 --> 01:06:08.700]  into physical space with all these other aspects of it.
[01:06:08.700 --> 01:06:11.500]  And companies like Palantir,
[01:06:11.500 --> 01:06:14.700]  they have been focused on geospatial intelligence
[01:06:14.700 --> 01:06:19.400]  and data mining and drawing all these conclusions
[01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:21.500]  about people's politics or religion and so forth,
[01:06:21.500 --> 01:06:24.200]  based just on even geospatial intelligence.
[01:06:24.200 --> 01:06:28.400]  When they get to additional factors like this,
[01:06:28.400 --> 01:06:30.100]  they know everything about you.
[01:06:30.100 --> 01:06:32.200]  And we're not allowed to know anything
[01:06:32.200 --> 01:06:34.400]  about what they do or the results.
[01:06:34.400 --> 01:06:36.200]  That's why it really is at its essence
[01:06:36.200 --> 01:06:37.700]  that is an information war,
[01:06:37.700 --> 01:06:42.000]  because all the information is flowing in one direction
[01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:44.900]  and they have an insatiable appetite
[01:06:44.900 --> 01:06:47.200]  to know everything about everybody.
[01:06:47.200 --> 01:06:50.100]  It is part and parcel of their control,
[01:06:50.100 --> 01:06:53.600]  this total knowledge about everyone and everything.
[01:06:53.600 --> 01:06:56.600]  And now AI and especially companies like Palantir
[01:06:56.600 --> 01:06:58.900]  have given them the ability to go through
[01:06:58.900 --> 01:07:00.900]  and collate this massive amount of data
[01:07:00.900 --> 01:07:02.900]  that they've been collecting for some time.
[01:07:02.900 --> 01:07:04.500]  Now they can make sense of it
[01:07:04.500 --> 01:07:06.500]  because it was so much information
[01:07:06.500 --> 01:07:07.900]  they've been collecting on people,
[01:07:07.900 --> 01:07:09.500]  they couldn't sort through it with humans.
[01:07:09.500 --> 01:07:12.700]  And so now they've got the AI that can sort through this.
[01:07:12.700 --> 01:07:16.300]  That is what's so concerning about all of this.
[01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.600]  It really is, because when you go on social media
[01:07:18.600 --> 01:07:21.500]  and you're fed an algorithm of which posts
[01:07:21.500 --> 01:07:23.200]  do you get to see today,
[01:07:23.200 --> 01:07:27.400]  that's going to be how our whole lives are run.
[01:07:27.400 --> 01:07:29.100]  And I don't know how many people I've known
[01:07:29.100 --> 01:07:30.800]  complain about their algorithm.
[01:07:30.800 --> 01:07:33.000]  Oh, it's just, it's triggering me today,
[01:07:33.000 --> 01:07:35.000]  or I don't know why my algorithm's all screwed up
[01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:36.400]  and it's showing me blah, blah.
[01:07:36.400 --> 01:07:38.700]  Well, imagine if that same algorithm
[01:07:38.700 --> 01:07:40.800]  is now your government gets to make decisions
[01:07:40.800 --> 01:07:42.400]  about if you're a good person or not,
[01:07:42.400 --> 01:07:43.900]  and if you get to go out today,
[01:07:43.900 --> 01:07:45.000]  or if you get to eat today,
[01:07:45.000 --> 01:07:46.700]  or if you get to use your money today.
[01:07:46.700 --> 01:07:48.300]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:07:48.300 --> 01:07:49.500]  Yeah, it's all about total control.
[01:07:49.500 --> 01:07:52.400]  And of course, that guy, Lucky Lutnick,
[01:07:52.400 --> 01:07:54.400]  Howard Lutnick, who is bragging about
[01:07:54.400 --> 01:07:55.800]  how much money he can make
[01:07:55.800 --> 01:07:59.800]  knowing that the government was going to just flood cash
[01:07:59.800 --> 01:08:01.700]  into these pharmaceutical companies.
[01:08:01.700 --> 01:08:04.300]  Now I can go in and I can make money off of that, right?
[01:08:04.300 --> 01:08:06.300]  So he's got this insider information
[01:08:06.300 --> 01:08:08.500]  and he's the guy that's going to be doing
[01:08:08.500 --> 01:08:13.000]  the new public-private version of a CBDC.
[01:08:13.100 --> 01:08:16.100]  And once they know all your financial transactions,
[01:08:16.100 --> 01:08:18.900]  all the rest, any part of this puzzle
[01:08:18.900 --> 01:08:21.800]  would give them pretty much total control over your life.
[01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.600]  But they've got so many different facets
[01:08:24.600 --> 01:08:27.500]  where they are monitoring and collating information
[01:08:27.500 --> 01:08:31.500]  about you that it truly is just overwhelming
[01:08:31.500 --> 01:08:32.600]  to even try to think about it.
[01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:36.000]  But again, it's the ignorance and the darkness
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.700]  that they have fooled everybody with.
[01:08:38.700 --> 01:08:40.700]  That's why it's so important what you're doing.
[01:08:40.700 --> 01:08:45.700]  And again, the site is thrillkillmedicalcult.com
[01:08:46.300 --> 01:08:48.400]  and you are also on Substack
[01:08:48.400 --> 01:08:53.400]  and people find that at zowe.substack.com.
[01:08:54.000 --> 01:08:57.800]  And it's very important for people to use this information
[01:08:57.800 --> 01:09:00.500]  to try to wake people up as to what's going on.
[01:09:00.500 --> 01:09:03.100]  They've not only hidden stuff from people,
[01:09:03.100 --> 01:09:05.300]  but they have, in terms of inoculation,
[01:09:05.300 --> 01:09:09.400]  the one thing they've inoculated you against is the truth.
[01:09:09.500 --> 01:09:10.600]  And they've inoculated you
[01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:13.100]  against questioning what they tell people.
[01:09:13.100 --> 01:09:15.900]  And that's why you need to try to wake people up
[01:09:15.900 --> 01:09:18.000]  with sites like Zoe's as well.
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:20.600]  So is there anything else that you would like to hit?
[01:09:22.400 --> 01:09:25.200]  I just, if anyone is interested,
[01:09:25.200 --> 01:09:28.500]  I'm gonna be doing a memorial for the people
[01:09:28.500 --> 01:09:33.000]  that we've lost to hospital protocols and vaccine injured,
[01:09:33.900 --> 01:09:37.800]  including women who may have had a stillbirth
[01:09:37.800 --> 01:09:41.200]  or a miscarriage due to the shot.
[01:09:42.200 --> 01:09:46.600]  So if you go to my website, there's a page called Vigil.
[01:09:46.600 --> 01:09:49.600]  And if you'd like to submit a name of a loved one,
[01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:51.500]  you don't have to tell us anything more,
[01:09:51.500 --> 01:09:52.800]  just the name of a loved one.
[01:09:52.800 --> 01:09:56.400]  You could even just put baby boy or baby girl if you like.
[01:09:56.400 --> 01:09:59.800]  And we're gonna be lighting a candle
[01:09:59.800 --> 01:10:02.700]  in remembrance of your loved ones.
[01:10:03.700 --> 01:10:06.900]  So if you like, please go in and submit a name
[01:10:06.900 --> 01:10:08.600]  and we will honor your bust.
[01:10:08.600 --> 01:10:09.700]  It's important.
[01:10:09.700 --> 01:10:11.700]  We cannot forget what they've done to us.
[01:10:11.700 --> 01:10:14.100]  And we cannot forget those that they have killed.
[01:10:14.100 --> 01:10:16.400]  That's absolutely vital.
[01:10:16.400 --> 01:10:17.900]  Thank you so much for what you do.
[01:10:17.900 --> 01:10:22.900]  Again, Zoe Smith, her website is thrillkillmedicalcult.com.
[01:10:24.300 --> 01:10:28.400]  And you can find her on Substack at zoe.substack.com.
[01:10:28.400 --> 01:10:30.600]  And she spells Zoe, Z-O-W-E.
[01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:32.300]  Thank you so much for joining us.
[01:10:32.300 --> 01:10:35.300]  We'll take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back.
[01:10:35.300 --> 01:10:36.200]  Stay with us.
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[01:11:35.200 --> 01:11:37.900]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause
[01:11:37.900 --> 01:11:39.700]  what you're doing for just one minute
[01:11:39.700 --> 01:11:42.500]  and I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[01:11:42.500 --> 01:11:46.000]  She lives in a remote community with very few resources
[01:11:46.000 --> 01:11:48.500]  and little to no healthcare.
[01:11:48.500 --> 01:11:50.500]  So when Alejandra gets sick,
[01:11:50.500 --> 01:11:52.600]  her parents have no real options,
[01:11:52.600 --> 01:11:55.000]  no doctors in their community,
[01:11:55.000 --> 01:11:58.200]  and no money for real medical care.
[01:11:58.200 --> 01:12:01.000]  By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.100]  She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom
[01:12:04.100 --> 01:12:07.000]  I can't take the pain anymore.
[01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.800]  I can't keep going.
[01:12:08.800 --> 01:12:11.600]  Her parents drove hours to find a doctor
[01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:15.400]  who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[01:12:15.400 --> 01:12:18.800]  And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[01:12:18.800 --> 01:12:22.700]  And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[01:12:22.700 --> 01:12:25.900]  Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated,
[01:12:25.900 --> 01:12:29.000]  and against all odds, she survived.
[01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:32.900]  She lived because someone just like you took action.
[01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:35.600]  Right now, unfortunately, there are children
[01:12:35.600 --> 01:12:38.400]  just like Alejandra who won't survive
[01:12:38.400 --> 01:12:41.000]  unless someone like you steps in.
[01:12:41.000 --> 01:12:44.800]  Compassion International partners with local churches,
[01:12:44.800 --> 01:12:47.800]  providing children with the support that they need,
[01:12:47.800 --> 01:12:51.800]  critical medical care, plus food, education,
[01:12:51.800 --> 01:12:55.900]  and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name.
[01:12:55.900 --> 01:12:59.700]  So help a child just like Alejandra today.
[01:12:59.700 --> 01:13:02.200]  You can visit Compassion.com.
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[01:13:36.000 --> 01:13:38.500]  Well, let's take a look at the AI bubble.
[01:13:38.500 --> 01:13:40.800]  And of course, it's kind of interesting.
[01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:42.200]  SoftBank, you know, we were just talking
[01:13:42.200 --> 01:13:44.600]  about Stargate project with Larry Ellison,
[01:13:44.600 --> 01:13:48.100]  and the bank that came in was this Japanese bank
[01:13:48.100 --> 01:13:49.700]  called SoftBank.
[01:13:49.700 --> 01:13:53.100]  They're very much invested in technology issues.
[01:13:53.100 --> 01:13:56.300]  And that was what Trump kicked off
[01:13:56.300 --> 01:13:57.800]  his second administration with.
[01:13:57.800 --> 01:14:02.800]  Well, SoftBank dumped every single share of NVIDIA,
[01:14:02.800 --> 01:14:05.600]  and that had an effect on the entire market,
[01:14:05.600 --> 01:14:07.800]  not just on NVIDIA stock.
[01:14:07.800 --> 01:14:10.400]  And remember, we talked about Michael Burry,
[01:14:10.400 --> 01:14:12.400]  the guy behind the,
[01:14:15.800 --> 01:14:17.800]  who sussed out, Big Short,
[01:14:17.800 --> 01:14:20.600]  who sussed out what was going on in the market,
[01:14:20.600 --> 01:14:23.000]  real estate market fraud and bubble.
[01:14:23.000 --> 01:14:26.300]  And he focused on shorting NVIDIA,
[01:14:26.300 --> 01:14:28.400]  as well as Palantir.
[01:14:28.400 --> 01:14:31.900]  And so we've had a lot of big players
[01:14:31.900 --> 01:14:35.000]  and people who are very professional, very savvy,
[01:14:35.000 --> 01:14:36.300]  who are calling bubble.
[01:14:36.300 --> 01:14:40.700]  And so NVIDIA went down by one and a half percent
[01:14:40.700 --> 01:14:44.500]  after SoftBank sold all of their shares.
[01:14:44.500 --> 01:14:48.200]  And then of course, Palantir is also going down.
[01:14:48.200 --> 01:14:50.600]  Palantir was really the biggest bet
[01:14:50.600 --> 01:14:53.000]  that Michael Burry of the Big Short put on.
[01:14:53.000 --> 01:14:54.900]  It was actually when he did the Big Short
[01:14:54.900 --> 01:14:56.100]  of over a billion dollars,
[01:14:56.100 --> 01:15:00.500]  which is like 80% of his company or his fund or whatever.
[01:15:01.600 --> 01:15:05.300]  So 84% of that short was Palantir,
[01:15:05.300 --> 01:15:10.300]  and 14% or 16% was the NVIDIA.
[01:15:11.100 --> 01:15:14.700]  And somebody put this up in verse Kramer.
[01:15:14.700 --> 01:15:17.700]  So look at Kramer as being a contra indicator
[01:15:17.700 --> 01:15:19.300]  of what they should invest in.
[01:15:19.300 --> 01:15:23.200]  They said, Jim Kramer remains undefeated.
[01:15:23.200 --> 01:15:26.100]  And so what they have there is a tweet that he put out
[01:15:26.100 --> 01:15:28.400]  as recently as the 29th of October.
[01:15:28.400 --> 01:15:29.600]  And he was saying,
[01:15:29.600 --> 01:15:31.700]  I'm taking my price target for Palantir
[01:15:31.700 --> 01:15:35.100]  from 200 to 250 exclamation mark.
[01:15:35.100 --> 01:15:37.700]  Well, it went from 200 when he said that,
[01:15:37.700 --> 01:15:42.700]  down to now about maybe 165 or 170.
[01:15:42.800 --> 01:15:45.000]  As I said, he remains undefeated
[01:15:45.000 --> 01:15:47.500]  as always being the counter indicator
[01:15:47.500 --> 01:15:49.200]  of where things should go.
[01:15:49.200 --> 01:15:52.500]  And you know, when I look at all of this hype
[01:15:52.500 --> 01:15:56.800]  about AI robots that we got from Elon Musk last week,
[01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.300]  and so many others, you know, the AI hype,
[01:15:59.300 --> 01:16:01.200]  the robotic hype and everything.
[01:16:01.200 --> 01:16:03.800]  This is Russia and their robot
[01:16:03.800 --> 01:16:04.900]  that they wanted to demonstrate.
[01:16:04.900 --> 01:16:07.800]  Again, we always hear about Russian bots, right?
[01:16:07.800 --> 01:16:10.100]  They're talking about AI
[01:16:10.100 --> 01:16:13.300]  that is putting out narratives on social media.
[01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:15.800]  But here's a literal Russian bot.
[01:16:15.800 --> 01:16:18.400]  And people's comments about this,
[01:16:18.400 --> 01:16:20.700]  it looks like they used a drunk
[01:16:20.700 --> 01:16:23.000]  to teach its robot how to walk.
[01:16:24.300 --> 01:16:25.700]  See how it's walking there?
[01:16:25.700 --> 01:16:26.900]  And watch what happens.
[01:16:26.900 --> 01:16:28.400]  Takes another couple of steps.
[01:16:28.400 --> 01:16:31.100]  And just like a drunk, it falls down on the side.
[01:16:31.100 --> 01:16:32.300]  Watch this, it's coming.
[01:16:33.300 --> 01:16:35.300]  Staggering, it goes down.
[01:16:35.300 --> 01:16:38.400]  So let's hope that that is a metaphor
[01:16:38.400 --> 01:16:40.400]  for robotics and for AI.
[01:16:40.400 --> 01:16:42.200]  Again, as I said last week,
[01:16:42.200 --> 01:16:43.700]  a lot of people are looking at this and they said,
[01:16:43.700 --> 01:16:46.000]  well, you know what, how does this end?
[01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:50.100]  Well, there's only two or three combinations of this
[01:16:50.200 --> 01:16:55.200]  that could go either the AI hype and the bubble bursts
[01:16:55.200 --> 01:16:58.200]  and takes down the economy big time
[01:16:58.200 --> 01:17:00.800]  or global economy big time,
[01:17:00.800 --> 01:17:03.900]  or it is successful and it takes everybody's jobs.
[01:17:03.900 --> 01:17:06.200]  And I said, well, there's a third alternative
[01:17:06.200 --> 01:17:10.400]  that it is sustained by the governments
[01:17:10.400 --> 01:17:12.600]  who use it to control us.
[01:17:12.600 --> 01:17:15.400]  And I think that is true of both AI and robotics.
[01:17:15.400 --> 01:17:20.300]  And I think that the best use case for all this stuff
[01:17:20.300 --> 01:17:22.700]  is tyranny and totalitarianism.
[01:17:22.700 --> 01:17:26.300]  Well, SoftBank dumped their entire NVIDIA stake,
[01:17:26.300 --> 01:17:30.000]  but they're not getting out of AI completely.
[01:17:30.000 --> 01:17:34.800]  So it's not a complete pushback against AI.
[01:17:34.800 --> 01:17:37.600]  They just decided that they would move from NVIDIA
[01:17:37.600 --> 01:17:42.600]  to some other platforms that are still involved in AI.
[01:17:42.800 --> 01:17:47.800]  And they had just under $6 billion stake in NVIDIA.
[01:17:48.200 --> 01:17:53.200]  And the guy who is the head of SoftBank, his name is Gotoo.
[01:17:53.500 --> 01:17:58.300]  I guess he's the Gotoo guy, if you want some tech capital.
[01:17:58.300 --> 01:18:01.400]  I can't say if we're in an AI bubble or not, said Gotoo,
[01:18:02.400 --> 01:18:04.600]  adding that the sale was for capital
[01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:06.700]  and can be utilized for our financing.
[01:18:06.700 --> 01:18:08.700]  So he's not gonna say that we're in an AI bubble
[01:18:08.700 --> 01:18:12.000]  because he's got some other irons in the fire
[01:18:12.000 --> 01:18:13.500]  and he doesn't wanna tank this thing.
[01:18:13.500 --> 01:18:17.000]  I can neither confirm nor deny that we are in an AI bubble.
[01:18:18.100 --> 01:18:20.400]  Yeah, but a lot of people have been confirming that.
[01:18:20.400 --> 01:18:22.100]  As a matter of fact, Zero Hedge pointed out and said,
[01:18:22.100 --> 01:18:24.700]  well, we've had four recent articles
[01:18:24.700 --> 01:18:25.600]  that are really must read.
[01:18:25.600 --> 01:18:26.900]  Here's the headlines.
[01:18:26.900 --> 01:18:31.200]  The AI bubble watch out metric has just snapped.
[01:18:32.100 --> 01:18:37.100]  AI is now a debt bubble too, quietly surpassing all banks
[01:18:37.200 --> 01:18:40.500]  to become the largest sector in the market.
[01:18:40.600 --> 01:18:45.000]  And Sam Altman denying OpenAI needs a government bailout.
[01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.200]  He just wants massive government subsidies.
[01:18:48.200 --> 01:18:50.400]  So yeah, we do the subsidy
[01:18:50.400 --> 01:18:52.500]  so we don't have to do the bailout.
[01:18:52.500 --> 01:18:55.400]  So it had an effect, of course, on Nvidia,
[01:18:55.400 --> 01:19:00.100]  but also on a lot of different stocks of futures slid down
[01:19:00.100 --> 01:19:02.300]  as AI jitters return.
[01:19:02.300 --> 01:19:05.000]  And yet, no matter how many people come out,
[01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:07.800]  no matter how many people who are large and connected
[01:19:07.800 --> 01:19:09.500]  come out against this,
[01:19:09.500 --> 01:19:13.300]  you still have the bubble continues to inflate.
[01:19:13.300 --> 01:19:16.400]  And another company was involved in that as well, CoreWeave.
[01:19:16.400 --> 01:19:21.000]  They rent out access to the AI chips
[01:19:21.000 --> 01:19:24.400]  and they had some interesting issues there
[01:19:24.400 --> 01:19:26.200]  and setbacks as well.
[01:19:26.200 --> 01:19:31.200]  But this article from Free Thought Project is very timely.
[01:19:31.600 --> 01:19:34.600]  They said it is time to pay attention.
[01:19:34.600 --> 01:19:38.200]  Europe has just eviscerated monetary privacy
[01:19:38.300 --> 01:19:41.000]  and it's going to be coming here to the United States next.
[01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:44.800]  They're basically starting down the path of banning all cash,
[01:19:44.800 --> 01:19:47.200]  state-run digital money.
[01:19:47.200 --> 01:19:48.400]  That's a law that has passed
[01:19:48.400 --> 01:19:51.100]  and it goes live in only 400 days.
[01:19:51.100 --> 01:19:52.900]  And so they're going to make it criminal
[01:19:52.900 --> 01:19:56.100]  to pay cash for anything over 10,000 euros,
[01:19:56.100 --> 01:19:59.000]  but of course that level is going to continue to come down.
[01:19:59.000 --> 01:20:02.800]  That's why you need to get into physical gold and silver.
[01:20:02.800 --> 01:20:04.200]  You got to get out of this system
[01:20:04.200 --> 01:20:05.000]  and that's what they're talking about.
[01:20:05.000 --> 01:20:06.300]  They have a lot of different alternatives
[01:20:06.300 --> 01:20:08.900]  in this Free Thought Project article.
[01:20:08.900 --> 01:20:10.500]  One thing they don't mention, strangely enough,
[01:20:10.500 --> 01:20:12.200]  is physical gold and silver.
[01:20:12.200 --> 01:20:15.000]  I think that is the simplest, easiest,
[01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:20.000]  most direct thing to essentially short the totalitarianism.
[01:20:20.300 --> 01:20:21.300]  That's what you need to be doing.
[01:20:21.300 --> 01:20:22.400]  Don't short the market.
[01:20:22.400 --> 01:20:23.700]  Short the totalitarianism.
[01:20:23.700 --> 01:20:24.900]  Go to David Nightdyde Gold.
[01:20:24.900 --> 01:20:27.800]  That'll take you to Tony Arderman's Wise Wolf Gold.
[01:20:27.800 --> 01:20:28.640]  Have a good day.
[01:20:28.640 --> 01:20:30.200]  Thank you for joining us.
[01:20:30.200 --> 01:20:31.500]  Hey, it's Ben Ferguson
[01:20:31.500 --> 01:20:34.200]  and I want to be honest with you for a second
[01:20:34.200 --> 01:20:37.100]  about how an act of compassion really feels.
[01:20:37.100 --> 01:20:38.200]  A couple of years ago,
[01:20:38.200 --> 01:20:40.400]  I made the choice to partner
[01:20:40.400 --> 01:20:44.100]  with an amazing organization called Compassion International.
[01:20:44.100 --> 01:20:45.000]  Why?
[01:20:45.000 --> 01:20:48.100]  Because I wanted to sponsor a child in need.
[01:20:48.100 --> 01:20:50.000]  It was a nice idea, sure,
[01:20:50.000 --> 01:20:53.800]  but I had no idea just how much that simple act
[01:20:53.800 --> 01:20:55.900]  would change my life as well.
[01:20:55.900 --> 01:20:57.500]  I sponsored Nadia
[01:20:57.500 --> 01:21:01.100]  and got to watch her life change right in front of my eyes,
[01:21:01.100 --> 01:21:04.600]  going from starving literally alone on the streets
[01:21:04.600 --> 01:21:06.700]  to getting the healthcare and education
[01:21:06.700 --> 01:21:10.700]  she needs to reach her God-given full potential.
[01:21:10.700 --> 01:21:12.900]  I got to be a part of that change
[01:21:12.900 --> 01:21:14.800]  and the light of that compassion
[01:21:14.800 --> 01:21:16.800]  not only illuminates in her,
[01:21:16.800 --> 01:21:18.900]  it illuminates now in me.
[01:21:18.900 --> 01:21:21.500]  That is the power of compassion.
[01:21:21.500 --> 01:21:25.100]  The light of Christ shines on all of us.
[01:21:25.100 --> 01:21:26.600]  Feel it for yourself
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[01:21:29.200 --> 01:21:32.300]  Change the world and you also change yourself.
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[01:23:00.140 --> 01:23:07.840]  and
[01:23:07.840 --> 01:23:10.840]  and
[01:23:10.840 --> 01:23:16.740]  and
[01:23:16.740 --> 01:23:18.800]  you
[01:23:18.800 --> 01:23:27.000]  Hi.
[01:23:27.000 --> 01:23:33.180]  for AI. It's either going to collapse the economy if it doesn't work out or if it
[01:23:33.180 --> 01:23:37.680]  does work out the use case is to take everybody's job and make everybody's
[01:23:37.680 --> 01:23:43.180]  jobs obsolete. Not a good prospect if those are the two choices that are there.
[01:23:43.180 --> 01:23:47.880]  I think though that there is a third choice and that is that the government
[01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:51.940]  maybe it won't take everybody's jobs and maybe it won't collapse the economy
[01:23:51.940 --> 01:23:57.620]  because maybe the AI bubble won't burst but we will live under a dystopian
[01:23:57.620 --> 01:24:01.180]  controlled surveillance grid because that's what the government will use it
[01:24:01.180 --> 01:24:07.580]  for. So there's a third alternative. AI's killer use case folks is surveillance
[01:24:07.580 --> 01:24:11.620]  and control of us and that's why the government is going to be so desperate
[01:24:11.620 --> 01:24:16.260]  to fund it whatever it takes. If you want to know why gold and silver and Bitcoin
[01:24:16.260 --> 01:24:23.660]  are soaring, it's the debasement of the dollar in order to fund the AI arms race
[01:24:23.660 --> 01:24:29.620]  they said. And of course energy is the reality factor in all of this. That's
[01:24:29.620 --> 01:24:33.380]  where it gets real and that's one of the reasons why Bill Gates and others are
[01:24:33.380 --> 01:24:38.980]  moving back away from the climate McGuffin. The pandemic McGuffin gives
[01:24:38.980 --> 01:24:42.460]  them all the justification that they need and they need to have this
[01:24:42.460 --> 01:24:47.700]  surveillance control and ID, this control grid that is there. They need to
[01:24:47.700 --> 01:24:50.380]  have that and they need to have artificial intelligence to run that. So
[01:24:50.380 --> 01:24:54.220]  they're pulling back from that because in order to have the AI control structure
[01:24:54.220 --> 01:24:58.460]  they've got to have massive amounts of energy.
[01:25:02.940 --> 01:25:10.180]  All right and joining us now is Dr. Richard Restak, MD and he is a neuroscientist
[01:25:10.180 --> 01:25:15.860]  as well and he has written a lot of books on the brain and now this is one
[01:25:15.860 --> 01:25:21.180]  kind of the nexus of our brain and artificial intelligence. So I wanted to
[01:25:21.180 --> 01:25:25.700]  get him on because we as you know we talk about AI and its impact on society
[01:25:25.700 --> 01:25:30.900]  quite a bit. Thank you for joining us Dr. Restak. Well I'm happy to be here. Thank
[01:25:30.900 --> 01:25:35.180]  you David. You've written so many books and the best-selling author and of
[01:25:35.180 --> 01:25:39.180]  course people can find this on Amazon. You've written so many books. What is
[01:25:39.180 --> 01:25:43.020]  different about the brain? What is different about this one and why did you
[01:25:43.020 --> 01:25:50.780]  write this book? I wrote this book to announce and to discuss the dangers that
[01:25:50.780 --> 01:25:56.380]  are lurking and so to speak in the 21st century and are unique to the going for
[01:25:56.380 --> 01:26:01.500]  a century but are having an effect on the brain and a negative one. So that we
[01:26:01.500 --> 01:26:07.540]  really are imperiled by eight different factors, one of which is the global
[01:26:07.540 --> 01:26:13.900]  warming. We have new diseases that are present in the 21st century that are
[01:26:13.900 --> 01:26:20.940]  increasing starting with COVID moving forward. We have problems of course with
[01:26:20.940 --> 01:26:25.340]  the global warming which we'll talk about in more detail and then the
[01:26:25.340 --> 01:26:31.740]  internet, the effect of the internet, the effect of AI, memory, the alteration, the
[01:26:31.740 --> 01:26:36.620]  attempt to alter memory almost to alter our memories of what the past was like.
[01:26:36.620 --> 01:26:42.300]  This is an ongoing enterprise by various governments in the world including our
[01:26:42.300 --> 01:26:48.100]  own. We also have surveillance, the seventh, the surveillance becoming
[01:26:48.100 --> 01:26:54.300]  increasingly a surveillance society. It's almost impossible to not be revealing
[01:26:54.300 --> 01:26:59.740]  things about yourself because there's surveillance cameras everywhere. I can
[01:26:59.740 --> 01:27:03.540]  give you several examples of that just in my own personal life and then finally
[01:27:03.540 --> 01:27:08.940]  the eighth one is anxiety. All of these things are creating what I call an
[01:27:08.940 --> 01:27:15.580]  existential anxiety. People are being given information but it's being molded
[01:27:15.580 --> 01:27:21.300]  according to the thoughts and the inclinations of people in power. For
[01:27:21.300 --> 01:27:26.900]  instance let's take today's, right out of today's New York Times on page A7
[01:27:26.900 --> 01:27:33.580]  there's an article called the air in New Delhi is life-threatening and it tells
[01:27:33.580 --> 01:27:39.780]  the tale of the New York Times reporters who have spread themselves throughout New
[01:27:39.780 --> 01:27:45.820]  Delhi from 6 a.m. until late in the evening of a certain day recently and
[01:27:45.820 --> 01:27:52.100]  they measured the particulate matter in the air and it was anywhere from 10 times
[01:27:52.100 --> 01:28:00.420]  to 30 times as great as would be considered minimally normal. Now on top of
[01:28:00.420 --> 01:28:06.140]  that you have the statement that they state that the government is actually
[01:28:06.140 --> 01:28:14.260]  trying to hide this kind of insight to the populace by spraying water and other
[01:28:14.260 --> 01:28:18.820]  things like that. It says that they're doing this around the measuring stations.
[01:28:18.820 --> 01:28:24.900]  They're also losing data from measuring stations during the worst bouts of
[01:28:24.900 --> 01:28:31.700]  pollution. So there you have the molding of the facts either denying them all
[01:28:31.700 --> 01:28:36.660]  together or trying to improve them so people say oh well they measured it down
[01:28:36.660 --> 01:28:40.700]  at such-and-such a measuring station and it was really not all that high. Well of
[01:28:40.700 --> 01:28:45.660]  course they were spreading water and other things to try to reduce this. So
[01:28:45.660 --> 01:28:50.540]  we've got a capitalist society here in the United States which has a vested
[01:28:50.540 --> 01:28:57.980]  interest in pushing forward certain scientific points of view. So science is
[01:28:57.980 --> 01:29:02.820]  being put sort of in the back seat and there's politicians and other people all
[01:29:02.820 --> 01:29:09.020]  of whom share one thing, capitalistic enterprises in which they're part of or
[01:29:09.020 --> 01:29:15.300]  which they are advancing. And a kind of crony capitalism where they can get
[01:29:15.300 --> 01:29:21.180]  protection and subsidies as well. And the control is being taken away from us
[01:29:21.180 --> 01:29:25.380]  because as I was just reporting earlier today they're working very hard to make
[01:29:25.380 --> 01:29:31.020]  sure that state and local governments can't enact any control on artificial
[01:29:31.020 --> 01:29:34.820]  intelligence. And that came up in the context of talking about how the
[01:29:34.820 --> 01:29:40.420]  manufacturers of tasers, also big manufacturers of police body cams, how
[01:29:40.420 --> 01:29:44.220]  they want to wed that to artificial intelligence. And the question is you
[01:29:44.220 --> 01:29:47.460]  know what could possibly go wrong with that? If they identify you, they
[01:29:47.460 --> 01:29:52.540]  misidentify you as a dangerous criminal and warn the police about how dangerous
[01:29:52.540 --> 01:29:57.420]  you are, they could get people killed. Well not only that but all of these
[01:29:57.420 --> 01:30:04.980]  efforts set up a sense of anxiety and fear. Let me just tell you what
[01:30:04.980 --> 01:30:09.780]  happened to me in one morning. Called a cab to go to a medical appointment and
[01:30:09.780 --> 01:30:13.900]  we've started going down the road. I said to the driver you know you're not
[01:30:13.900 --> 01:30:18.420]  going the most efficient or the quickest way. He said I know that. He
[01:30:18.420 --> 01:30:22.520]  said but I don't want to go that way because there's speed cameras. I said
[01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.980]  well you know you're driving very sensibly and you're not speeding and
[01:30:25.980 --> 01:30:30.500]  I'm in no hurry so what's the problem? He said well they take pictures of
[01:30:30.500 --> 01:30:34.180]  everybody that goes by those cameras because they want to see who's in those
[01:30:34.180 --> 01:30:39.420]  photos, in those cars. So I asked him to give me a reference for that and he got
[01:30:39.420 --> 01:30:44.020]  sort of didn't say anything else for the rest of the trip. So when I got down to
[01:30:44.020 --> 01:30:48.380]  the medical building I got in the elevator and said in this facility there
[01:30:48.380 --> 01:31:02.820]  is surveillance both obvious and hidden and then when I got up to sign in I
[01:31:02.820 --> 01:31:08.740]  signed the board with electronic pen and I didn't see you go no signatures. I
[01:31:09.140 --> 01:31:12.940]  said well it didn't take. She said oh it took but we don't allow it to go on the
[01:31:12.940 --> 01:31:16.900]  screen so it could be seen. I said why is that? She said well somebody behind you
[01:31:16.900 --> 01:31:22.180]  might see the thing and then remember it and use your signature to
[01:31:22.180 --> 01:31:26.500]  forward something somewhere. Well first of all there was a sign that said stand
[01:31:26.500 --> 01:31:31.660]  10 feet back and secondly there's nobody else behind me. So there's three
[01:31:31.660 --> 01:31:36.420]  examples just drawn at random that were becoming an increasingly surveilled
[01:31:36.540 --> 01:31:42.020]  society which is creating a sense of paranoia and a sense of fear. So the
[01:31:42.020 --> 01:31:47.620]  brain has to adjust to these type of things Dave and it's very hard to do. And
[01:31:47.620 --> 01:31:52.020]  I think that is calculated you know they've been they want to do this even
[01:31:52.020 --> 01:31:55.580]  to the extent when you talk about these cameras taking everybody's picture that
[01:31:55.580 --> 01:31:59.380]  the flock network that is out there this corporation that is saying well we can
[01:31:59.380 --> 01:32:04.740]  do whatever we want because it's in public space and and you know we're we're
[01:32:04.740 --> 01:32:08.620]  not government so we can collect this information and yet they collect it in
[01:32:08.620 --> 01:32:12.860]  order to sell it to the government. So it's just one level indirect but they
[01:32:12.860 --> 01:32:18.540]  not only grab your license plate but they also do a complete profile of your
[01:32:18.540 --> 01:32:22.700]  car and all of its idiosyncrasies. Does it have a dent here? Does it have a scrape
[01:32:22.700 --> 01:32:27.100]  there? What about a bumper sticker? So it creates a model of your car and so they
[01:32:27.100 --> 01:32:31.580]  almost have like you know biometric identification of your cars as well as of
[01:32:31.580 --> 01:32:37.420]  you. And this is now made possible because of the advances of AI. But this
[01:32:37.420 --> 01:32:42.340]  has been something that has been concerning me. I look at things kind of
[01:32:42.340 --> 01:32:46.300]  from a libertarian perspective and this has been concerning me for a long time.
[01:32:46.300 --> 01:32:51.740]  The idea that government is using technology many different ways internet
[01:32:51.740 --> 01:32:57.540]  social media things like that to monitor and to manipulate us all the time and to
[01:32:57.540 --> 01:33:03.700]  me artificial intelligence just puts this on steroids and so I think there is
[01:33:03.700 --> 01:33:08.300]  something to be anxious about if we're going to to look at this we should be
[01:33:08.300 --> 01:33:12.700]  concerned about it maybe not anxious but we should be concerned about the goals
[01:33:12.700 --> 01:33:17.300]  of people who are putting this kind of stuff together. Hey it's Ben Ferguson
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[01:35:01.220 --> 01:35:06.420]  present you can manipulate the future. The real way to get it is to get
[01:35:06.420 --> 01:35:11.980]  control of the past as Orwell pointed out. You control the past you
[01:35:11.980 --> 01:35:16.820]  can control the present and by the implication control the future and we're
[01:35:16.820 --> 01:35:23.300]  seeing alterations of materials even with government documents government
[01:35:23.300 --> 01:35:29.020]  films documentaries things like that are being altered in ways that are not
[01:35:29.020 --> 01:35:34.700]  visible not I should say detectable not detectable to the ordinary person so
[01:35:34.700 --> 01:35:41.300]  they get ideas about what the past was like which are wrong and don't show
[01:35:41.300 --> 01:35:48.100]  you as I mentioned in the book if you were in a at a dance in 1850 before the
[01:35:48.100 --> 01:35:53.460]  Civil War and it's a film we're watching let's just say we're watching a film
[01:35:53.460 --> 01:35:58.620]  about 1850 and we're seeing people ballroom dancing all that then one of
[01:35:58.620 --> 01:36:03.500]  them pulls the son pulls out a cell phone and you say wait a minute we
[01:36:03.500 --> 01:36:06.740]  didn't have cell phones then well you know there were a lot of things that
[01:36:06.740 --> 01:36:13.380]  were going on now that we're not going on in the past yeah and it's not to our
[01:36:13.380 --> 01:36:18.300]  advantage to try to pretend that they were they weren't we have to understand
[01:36:18.300 --> 01:36:24.580]  the past understand the future and we're not only creating situations that are
[01:36:24.580 --> 01:36:33.260]  false but we're also like in 1984 Orwell created a character called commander
[01:36:33.700 --> 01:36:40.100]  Ogilvy he was a war hero he got all sorts of medals and it was all the
[01:36:40.100 --> 01:36:46.180]  proletariat were all told to honor him and so forth well he never existed he
[01:36:46.180 --> 01:36:50.900]  actually was made up entirely and that's one of the things that the narrator is
[01:36:50.900 --> 01:36:57.780]  doing in the job of work is filling in photographs of see concerning Ogilvy
[01:36:57.780 --> 01:37:03.780]  into historical events that happened wartime scenarios etc and anyone reading
[01:37:03.780 --> 01:37:09.300]  it will say wow this is some man well he was a complete fabrication we're just
[01:37:09.300 --> 01:37:16.380]  about at that point with Sora out the AI out well it could take you and had you
[01:37:16.380 --> 01:37:21.100]  you know good to say let's get David Knight and have him leading some sort of
[01:37:21.100 --> 01:37:25.740]  a parade or whatever and you know suddenly people say well gosh I saw with
[01:37:25.740 --> 01:37:31.780]  my own eyes so what's happening is that the actual seeing is believing is being
[01:37:31.780 --> 01:37:35.820]  turned on its head so that's no longer true you're talking about a completely
[01:37:35.820 --> 01:37:40.940]  fabricated character out of Orwell it's just recently they had Tilly Norwood who
[01:37:40.940 --> 01:37:44.620]  is a completely fabricated AI personality and the person who came up
[01:37:44.620 --> 01:37:50.580]  with it has got agents representing her they got her out there as an actress
[01:37:50.580 --> 01:37:55.260]  it's like so I've created an AI actress which will do a lot of different roles
[01:37:55.260 --> 01:38:00.060]  for you she probably does her own stunts as well I mentioned but people in SAG
[01:38:00.060 --> 01:38:04.740]  the screen actors guild and they're furious about this and I said any agent
[01:38:04.740 --> 01:38:10.300]  this AI character is not gonna do any business with us but we're already at
[01:38:10.300 --> 01:38:15.660]  that point it truly is interesting yeah and one of the ways of neutralizing it
[01:38:15.660 --> 01:38:19.620]  is to create the situation that exists right now between you and me you're
[01:38:19.620 --> 01:38:23.940]  laughing and I'm laughing because it seems funny and it is funny but it's a
[01:38:23.940 --> 01:38:29.060]  very serious purpose behind all this yes it's all about her to try to alter
[01:38:29.060 --> 01:38:34.740]  people's perceptions so that they begin to doubt the verity of what they're
[01:38:34.740 --> 01:38:40.140]  seeing that's right yes and I've talked for the longest time about how the the
[01:38:40.140 --> 01:38:43.500]  whole idea for the internet was created by DARPA psychologist and I've been
[01:38:43.500 --> 01:38:46.980]  concerned that it was all about the psychological manipulation from the
[01:38:46.980 --> 01:38:53.940]  get-go with all of this but as a physician and as a neuroscientist I'd be
[01:38:53.940 --> 01:38:57.180]  interested in your take on you know what is currently going on because besides
[01:38:57.180 --> 01:39:01.540]  manipulating the past by changing information about the past or you know
[01:39:01.540 --> 01:39:05.900]  memory-holing it or writing a new alternative history of it they are also
[01:39:05.900 --> 01:39:10.940]  concerned and there's been projects that have been put out by DARPA and I don't
[01:39:10.940 --> 01:39:13.140]  know if they've been successful or not but they you know they're putting out
[01:39:13.140 --> 01:39:17.460]  requests for people to come up with things to manipulate people's memories
[01:39:17.460 --> 01:39:23.420]  so you've got a soldier they say it who's got bad PTSD let's get rid of that
[01:39:23.420 --> 01:39:27.940]  memory let's give them different memories what do you see in terms of
[01:39:27.940 --> 01:39:31.820]  someone who studies the brain and neuroscience what do you see about that
[01:39:31.820 --> 01:39:37.420]  what do you take is think is the state of the art with that well my last book
[01:39:37.420 --> 01:39:40.740]  was called the complete book of memory it had to do with memory I studied
[01:39:40.740 --> 01:39:46.020]  memory in great detail and of course you have to do away with the concept
[01:39:46.020 --> 01:39:50.620]  that memory is like a videotape or something that you just store in your
[01:39:50.620 --> 01:39:54.620]  brain and when you get and want to get it you just bring it out like you bring
[01:39:54.620 --> 01:39:59.540]  out a videotape it's not like that it's it's a reconstruction each time you
[01:39:59.540 --> 01:40:06.220]  think back to a certain event you alter that memory so that you have memory one
[01:40:06.220 --> 01:40:12.220]  memory two memory three on and on and on that's the nature of memory and
[01:40:12.220 --> 01:40:17.580]  memory could be manipulated it's always you know in the courtroom they're always
[01:40:17.580 --> 01:40:22.180]  trying to avoid the contamination of the witness the example that would be well
[01:40:22.180 --> 01:40:29.140]  which car went through the red light and to ask a witness he said oh it was it
[01:40:29.140 --> 01:40:33.180]  was a red car went through the red light well wouldn't surprise you to know that
[01:40:33.180 --> 01:40:38.500]  it wasn't a red light but it's a stop sign mr. witness of course his
[01:40:38.500 --> 01:40:43.900]  credibility is gone yeah because he took the suggestion that it was a red light
[01:40:43.900 --> 01:40:48.620]  instead of and it was very easy to do because you don't necessarily have that
[01:40:48.620 --> 01:40:53.900]  image that intersection in your mind so that's why there's protections even in
[01:40:53.900 --> 01:40:58.540]  the courtroom against leading the witness they call it in other words
[01:40:58.540 --> 01:41:04.420]  providing information that's either not true at all or half true so we've got
[01:41:04.420 --> 01:41:09.180]  that cause that this is not this didn't start in the 21st century that that
[01:41:09.180 --> 01:41:13.380]  started you know as long as we've had courtrooms this is a more an emphasis
[01:41:13.380 --> 01:41:18.420]  then on altering memory so the people will not eat will get up there and under
[01:41:18.420 --> 01:41:21.780]  cross-examination they'll do pretty well because their whole memories been
[01:41:21.780 --> 01:41:27.220]  altered they've changed it by various mechanisms suggestion repeating the
[01:41:27.220 --> 01:41:31.940]  information which is false of course which is the missing information there's
[01:41:31.940 --> 01:41:40.100]  a cartoon about a week ago by Ramirez in which he he spilled surprise winner his
[01:41:40.100 --> 01:41:46.500]  three doctors in an operating room in a laboratory one of them is looking into a
[01:41:46.500 --> 01:41:51.780]  microscope and he looks up and he says this is the most dangerous pathogen we
[01:41:51.780 --> 01:41:56.380]  have ever encountered and the second doctor says well is it bubonic plague is
[01:41:56.620 --> 01:42:02.340]  it smallpox and then the one that he says no it's misinformation and
[01:42:02.340 --> 01:42:09.500]  disinformation that's right and and we got to be very careful because many
[01:42:09.500 --> 01:42:13.600]  times the people who will tell us about that are the people who want to be the
[01:42:13.600 --> 01:42:18.620]  ones who define what the information is for us and they will ask those leading
[01:42:18.620 --> 01:42:21.420]  questions you know we're talking about leading questions and manipulating
[01:42:21.420 --> 01:42:27.300]  people there's been a lot of reports about artificial intelligence kind of
[01:42:27.300 --> 01:42:34.740]  people who have particular psychosis or something and they get involved with the
[01:42:34.740 --> 01:42:38.500]  AI and it starts to confirm the things that they want because that's what it
[01:42:38.500 --> 01:42:43.020]  is set up to do in terms of bias that want to you know be empathetic and
[01:42:43.020 --> 01:42:47.180]  sympathetic to people and so it starts doing that and leading them further and
[01:42:47.380 --> 01:42:52.260]  down a particular rabbit hole there's been situations of you know people got
[01:42:52.260 --> 01:42:56.340]  into severe mental distress some suicides of some young children and other
[01:42:56.340 --> 01:43:01.220]  things like that speak to that aspect of it and the real danger of that that is
[01:43:01.220 --> 01:43:07.220]  really kind of I think speaks to the to the psychological aspect and potential
[01:43:07.220 --> 01:43:10.540]  of artificial intelligence and that could be weaponized right now it's just
[01:43:10.540 --> 01:43:15.540]  kind of happening out of their business model right but that could definitely be
[01:43:15.580 --> 01:43:19.460]  weaponized against people well I talked about that in my book in the chapter on
[01:43:19.460 --> 01:43:25.340]  the internet there are famous examples of people who have suicided right on the
[01:43:25.340 --> 01:43:32.660]  internet live feed and they've been manipulated to doing that by other
[01:43:32.660 --> 01:43:38.060]  people who've encouraged them said this would be a sign of strength this would
[01:43:38.060 --> 01:43:44.580]  be a sign of that you're not afraid to die if necessary and there's cases of
[01:43:44.620 --> 01:43:50.940]  actually led to the suicide one of them is most grisly I have in my book about
[01:43:50.940 --> 01:43:55.140]  a person who was talked into pouring gasoline over themselves and setting a
[01:43:55.140 --> 01:44:02.220]  match all on open feed internet and while this fire is burning you can hear
[01:44:02.220 --> 01:44:07.660]  everybody in the backgrounds cheering we did it we did it we got him to do it
[01:44:07.660 --> 01:44:15.980]  Wow that's amazing so there's something about the internet and about that
[01:44:15.980 --> 01:44:21.900]  actually brings out sadistic criminal psychopathic trends that we don't know
[01:44:21.900 --> 01:44:27.540]  why is the fact that you don't necessarily can't be identified it's
[01:44:27.540 --> 01:44:30.260]  something that is going to be influencing it has influenced the
[01:44:30.260 --> 01:44:36.700]  internet greatly and it will continue to do so until we understand it I think
[01:44:36.700 --> 01:44:39.580]  that's one of the things that's so dangerous about the things that we saw
[01:44:39.580 --> 01:44:44.860]  with lockdown and other aspects of it there there's an atomization here and so
[01:44:44.860 --> 01:44:49.420]  many different ways the government and tech and tech companies are trying to
[01:44:49.420 --> 01:44:54.260]  make sure that we don't we're not in person with each other you know many
[01:44:54.260 --> 01:44:57.900]  cases like for example in this interview we couldn't do this interview if we both
[01:44:57.900 --> 01:45:02.300]  had if one of both of us had to travel we're able to do this because we can do
[01:45:02.300 --> 01:45:08.540]  it over zoom or whatever but just taking ordinary things that you would
[01:45:08.540 --> 01:45:14.260]  normally do in terms of interacting with people and school or in church or in
[01:45:14.260 --> 01:45:17.900]  your community or whatever taking that away and putting a screen between the
[01:45:17.900 --> 01:45:20.660]  two of you it really does change the way people interact with each other I
[01:45:20.660 --> 01:45:26.020]  remember Errol Morris the film director was able to get people to say all kinds
[01:45:26.020 --> 01:45:31.740]  of things to him he got a murderer to confess he got he got Robert McNamara to
[01:45:31.740 --> 01:45:35.900]  confess about the false flag of the Vietnam War he got people say all kinds
[01:45:35.900 --> 01:45:39.380]  of stuff because there was that distance between him and them he could have
[01:45:39.380 --> 01:45:43.740]  interviewed them in person but what he did was he put an interrotron which he
[01:45:43.740 --> 01:45:48.260]  is what he called it it was basically a teleprompter that he had set up so he
[01:45:48.260 --> 01:45:51.420]  could do two-way communication at the time and once he had that distance
[01:45:51.420 --> 01:45:57.660]  there then it completely changed the dynamics that he would have versus with
[01:45:57.660 --> 01:46:00.860]  somebody person to person and that's what we're talking about here isn't it
[01:46:00.860 --> 01:46:04.620]  yeah we're talking about that and of course there's two gradations of this
[01:46:04.620 --> 01:46:09.460]  and it continues like we're in or you're interviewing me we're discussing I feel
[01:46:09.460 --> 01:46:14.740]  like it's a discussion if I were to say something that later I regretted I could
[01:46:14.740 --> 01:46:22.380]  probably say oh well that wasn't me that was my avatar or my agent right I got an
[01:46:22.380 --> 01:46:30.420]  AI agent that's out there doing it's crazy we also see though as a doctor
[01:46:30.420 --> 01:46:34.940]  you're seeing people have noticed actual physical changes that can be
[01:46:34.940 --> 01:46:38.600]  observed in people's brains from I'm thinking of the story about the London
[01:46:38.600 --> 01:46:42.920]  taxi drivers who would do the knowledge and they would find that as they
[01:46:42.920 --> 01:46:49.020]  memorized all these factual details and and drew on that all the time in order
[01:46:49.020 --> 01:46:53.300]  to take people to you know this very complicated city with its complicated
[01:46:53.300 --> 01:46:57.580]  streets that they had a particular part of the brain that was larger than the
[01:46:57.580 --> 01:47:02.140]  typical person and then they found that once they stopped doing that it started
[01:47:02.140 --> 01:47:06.180]  to shrink again and we're starting to see that happening with people in a lot
[01:47:06.180 --> 01:47:09.780]  of different areas of their life that kind of act hey it's Ben Ferguson and I
[01:47:09.780 --> 01:47:13.700]  want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute and I want you to hear
[01:47:13.700 --> 01:47:19.140]  about Alejandra she lives in a remote community with very few resources and
[01:47:19.140 --> 01:47:24.540]  little to no health care so when Alejandra gets sick her parents have no
[01:47:24.540 --> 01:47:30.280]  real options no doctors in their community and no money for real medical
[01:47:30.280 --> 01:47:35.700]  care by the third day her body was shutting down she woke up and just long
[01:47:35.700 --> 01:47:42.100]  enough to tell her mom I can't take the pain anymore I can't keep going her
[01:47:42.100 --> 01:47:47.020]  parents drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything but she needed a
[01:47:47.020 --> 01:47:52.720]  private hospital and that was impossible for her family to afford and that is
[01:47:52.720 --> 01:47:58.280]  when compassion international stepped in now through compassion Alejandra was
[01:47:58.280 --> 01:48:04.120]  treated and against all odds she survived she lived because someone just
[01:48:04.120 --> 01:48:09.000]  like you took action right now unfortunately their children just like
[01:48:09.000 --> 01:48:14.440]  Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like you steps in compassion
[01:48:14.440 --> 01:48:18.880]  international partners with local churches providing children with the
[01:48:18.880 --> 01:48:25.320]  support that they need critical medical care plus food education and the hope of
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[01:49:07.400 --> 01:49:12.920]  details trophy and it's physically observable isn't it well it is you have
[01:49:12.920 --> 01:49:18.000]  to learn you have to use the things that you have learned to do like I
[01:49:18.000 --> 01:49:22.080]  mentioned in my memory book there's all kinds of memory exercises that you could
[01:49:22.080 --> 01:49:26.840]  do I do them every day and they're very easy and they keep help you to continue
[01:49:26.840 --> 01:49:31.840]  with your with your memory and every to keep it sharp give us some examples I'm
[01:49:31.840 --> 01:49:34.440]  sure everybody would love to know that I would all like to have a better memory
[01:49:34.440 --> 01:49:38.320]  what kind of what kind of things do we can we do to exercise well think about
[01:49:38.520 --> 01:49:43.480]  fact that you never had to learn pictures when you were an infant a young
[01:49:43.480 --> 01:49:48.720]  child a picture was something that you could you know may not know what you're
[01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:52.960]  looking at but you could see it without an intermediary press language is
[01:49:52.960 --> 01:49:57.200]  something that you have to hear from other people it's something that's sort
[01:49:57.200 --> 01:50:04.960]  of added on to the brain okay so as a result the most best way of remembering
[01:50:04.960 --> 01:50:13.840]  something is to make a image for it okay for instance I have a little dog
[01:50:13.840 --> 01:50:19.520]  called a skipper key skipper key is a Belgian dog he's a nice little fellow
[01:50:19.520 --> 01:50:23.320]  and but it was embarrassing to me when walking the street people say what kind
[01:50:23.320 --> 01:50:28.920]  of a dog is that and we come up with a name because it was such complicated I
[01:50:28.920 --> 01:50:33.220]  thought that's skipper key I didn't speak any Dutch or anything so then I got
[01:50:33.220 --> 01:50:39.700]  this image of a small boat with a large captain with a beard holding a big key
[01:50:39.700 --> 01:50:45.300]  so it was skipper key and I remember forever so I was gonna have the picture
[01:50:45.300 --> 01:50:50.860]  once I have the picture it's easy to do another way easy way to do it and you
[01:50:50.860 --> 01:50:55.700]  can do that with all kinds of times all the time I was going upstairs before I
[01:50:55.700 --> 01:51:01.060]  came down to the office and I wanted to get my wallet and I wanted to get my
[01:51:01.060 --> 01:51:07.060]  cell phone so I just had an image of a wallet in the form of a cell phone and I
[01:51:07.060 --> 01:51:12.220]  was walking up the stairs talking into the wallet cell phone so I got up and I
[01:51:12.220 --> 01:51:15.940]  knew I had these two elements to get be very easy to get one and forget the
[01:51:15.940 --> 01:51:21.380]  other so that you have these images all the time and the quickest you know this
[01:51:21.380 --> 01:51:27.620]  is sort of off the topic of the book but if you want to have a firepower memory
[01:51:27.620 --> 01:51:36.020]  for a load of things that's up to ten things and get ten areas that you are
[01:51:36.020 --> 01:51:43.620]  familiar with that you see every day and then you could put on those images the
[01:51:43.620 --> 01:51:50.420]  thing you're trying to remember so if I'm trying to remember a loaf of bread
[01:51:50.620 --> 01:51:58.140]  milk maybe a batteries I have a regular way of doing that I have like I remember
[01:51:58.140 --> 01:52:05.780]  my the library that's near my home the coffee shop liquor store Georgetown
[01:52:05.780 --> 01:52:12.140]  University Medical School where I went Georgetown University Cafe Milano which
[01:52:12.140 --> 01:52:19.020]  is a place in Washington everybody gathers and then Key Bridge Iwo Jima
[01:52:19.020 --> 01:52:25.300]  Memorial and Reagan Airport so that bread would be for instance the loaf of
[01:52:25.300 --> 01:52:29.100]  bread I would look in the window of the library instead of seeing books I see
[01:52:29.100 --> 01:52:33.460]  bread loaves of bread and when I get down to the theater the liquor store
[01:52:33.460 --> 01:52:37.620]  instead of it being filled with liquor that all be milk bottles so that's how
[01:52:37.620 --> 01:52:41.940]  about to get to it so I have those ten so I can get ten items together without
[01:52:41.940 --> 01:52:47.160]  any any problems at all that's great yeah you know it's interesting you talk
[01:52:47.160 --> 01:52:51.040]  about the the importance of a visualization it's one of the things
[01:52:51.040 --> 01:52:55.700]  that I do in terms of preparing for the show I have a lot of articles that I go
[01:52:55.700 --> 01:53:00.360]  through and it's really when I highlight things or when I write them down that's
[01:53:00.360 --> 01:53:03.680]  when I can remember them if I don't do that if I were just to read these things
[01:53:03.680 --> 01:53:07.680]  I wouldn't remember them but if I interact with it and write it down that
[01:53:07.680 --> 01:53:11.320]  helps me to remember it so that is a kind of visualization there I guess as
[01:53:11.320 --> 01:53:16.800]  well it is it truly is interesting and what you said earlier about memory not
[01:53:16.800 --> 01:53:20.120]  being something that is stored in a place as somebody coming from a computer
[01:53:20.120 --> 01:53:24.840]  science background that was a very different thing when you construct your
[01:53:24.840 --> 01:53:28.600]  your memory side what you know how do you reconstruct that I mean that that
[01:53:28.600 --> 01:53:33.480]  that as opens up a whole new area of questions as well in other words if
[01:53:33.480 --> 01:53:37.680]  every time somebody brings up a subject I mean there there isn't something
[01:53:37.680 --> 01:53:43.280]  that's stored initially to reference that and then rebuild from that there's
[01:53:44.240 --> 01:53:48.400]  there's the interconnections like you know somebody listening to us might say
[01:53:48.400 --> 01:53:52.040]  well gee this is called the 21st century brain but I haven't heard that much
[01:53:52.040 --> 01:53:57.160]  about the brain well let me just link that up so these things make sense we
[01:53:57.160 --> 01:54:00.960]  have a new version or I should say a new understanding of the brain called the
[01:54:00.960 --> 01:54:07.040]  connectomic brain in which there's all kinds of interactions in the brain of
[01:54:07.040 --> 01:54:13.040]  parts of the brain which you don't we're just learning about I have the I used a
[01:54:13.040 --> 01:54:18.000]  metaphor of a bowl of spaghetti you pull out one of the strains of spaghetti
[01:54:18.000 --> 01:54:22.880]  and you never have any idea what it's connected to how many other strains of
[01:54:22.880 --> 01:54:29.440]  spaghetti this is connected to so that's you think of the brain as being kind of
[01:54:29.440 --> 01:54:36.120]  set to make connections that's its natural process so it gets back to these
[01:54:36.120 --> 01:54:39.880]  things that we were talking about earlier you know global warming and
[01:54:39.880 --> 01:54:44.680]  memory surveillance and all that how are we gonna solve all those well
[01:54:44.680 --> 01:54:51.080]  somehow or other those things are connected with each other that's the
[01:54:51.080 --> 01:54:57.880]  take-home message to this book and the basic goal is to try to figure out what
[01:54:57.880 --> 01:55:04.480]  it is that connects these things what it is that would allow us to to by
[01:55:04.480 --> 01:55:11.440]  solving one of them solve the other and I mentioned at the end of the book
[01:55:11.440 --> 01:55:18.360]  experts so far I haven't done it so it's useful as Hayek said to get ordinary
[01:55:18.360 --> 01:55:24.120]  people to give when I say ordinary I mean non-specialized people to give
[01:55:24.120 --> 01:55:28.400]  their ideas gee I wonder what such-and-such would happen what would
[01:55:28.400 --> 01:55:31.480]  happen about global warming for a while there was in fact there's still
[01:55:31.480 --> 01:55:37.720]  experiments going on on the effect of sulfur that would help the the co2
[01:55:37.720 --> 01:55:44.440]  problem and you know shooting sulfur up into the into the atmosphere of course
[01:55:44.440 --> 01:55:52.160]  the reason for that was the volcano 1980 something in which after that volcano in
[01:55:52.160 --> 01:55:58.960]  Hawaii it was noted that the air was clearer and it was less pollution so
[01:55:59.000 --> 01:56:02.560]  that's something to think about is there some way of using that particular
[01:56:02.560 --> 01:56:10.480]  sulfur experiment to decrease global warming war for instance we don't think
[01:56:10.480 --> 01:56:15.320]  of war as a cause of global warming but it is
[01:56:19.320 --> 01:56:26.160]  the Ukraine war and the Gaza war then you know tremendous amount that's gonna
[01:56:26.160 --> 01:56:32.880]  overcome and exceed the benefit of any of these things like you know non
[01:56:32.880 --> 01:56:38.480]  gasoline engines but using things like that absolutely yeah it's kind of like
[01:56:38.480 --> 01:56:43.800]  you know shooting up rockets in order to put satellites up you know how many how
[01:56:43.800 --> 01:56:48.720]  many cars and lifetime use of cars from people would that be equivalent to and
[01:56:48.720 --> 01:56:52.000]  you start talking about all the missiles that are being shot and then you get to
[01:56:52.000 --> 01:56:58.120]  the explosives as well it is really interesting how they focus on their
[01:56:58.120 --> 01:57:02.800]  objectives for their ways to control us the manipulations been going on for
[01:57:02.800 --> 01:57:09.640]  quite some time and so yeah that is it is pretty amazing and I guess that's my
[01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:13.840]  you know my my when you look at this stuff it really does look like science
[01:57:13.840 --> 01:57:17.920]  fiction and I'm almost inclined to write it off when I first see it when DARPA is
[01:57:17.920 --> 01:57:22.640]  saying well we need to find some way that we can you know erase memories and
[01:57:22.640 --> 01:57:26.880]  people and insert new memories into them I'm going back to total recall right
[01:57:26.880 --> 01:57:32.880]  so it sounds like something from a Philip K. Dick novel but they're really
[01:57:32.880 --> 01:57:35.960]  working on that and I guess one of the most striking things we saw we reported
[01:57:35.960 --> 01:57:41.520]  on a couple of weeks ago and it was a company that was bragging about how they
[01:57:41.520 --> 01:57:46.880]  could read your mind more accurately and quickly than their competitors because
[01:57:46.880 --> 01:57:50.320]  there's a lot of different companies that are doing this and how they could
[01:57:50.320 --> 01:57:56.640]  it's called brain IT was the name of the company and so they had a way that they
[01:57:56.640 --> 01:58:04.760]  would do MRI and they could essentially train it on your brain in a much shorter
[01:58:04.760 --> 01:58:07.360]  period of time the other people and they could get much better results our
[01:58:07.360 --> 01:58:11.760]  producers just pull this up so what they do is they show you an image and you're
[01:58:11.760 --> 01:58:15.000]  looking at that image and then it's reading your mind and reconstructing
[01:58:15.000 --> 01:58:19.400]  what you're looking at which I thought was absolutely amazing and terrifying at
[01:58:19.400 --> 01:58:24.160]  the same time how is this going to be used I guess that's the real issue when
[01:58:24.160 --> 01:58:27.600]  we start talking about all these different things I think that is the
[01:58:27.600 --> 01:58:32.160]  real case that it's difficult for people to understand just how far and how
[01:58:32.160 --> 01:58:36.840]  quickly the technology has progressed and then to say and how do we control
[01:58:36.840 --> 01:58:43.880]  this from it being used for for bad purposes well that's specifically 21st
[01:58:43.880 --> 01:58:48.720]  century problems yes because all of these things are either originated in
[01:58:48.720 --> 01:58:53.720]  the 21st century where they have in fact further developed and become
[01:58:53.720 --> 01:58:59.080]  increasingly threatening and bear in mind we have to have to solve these
[01:58:59.080 --> 01:59:02.360]  problems because they're not something that's going to go away and then the
[01:59:02.360 --> 01:59:07.840]  most important thing to remember David is that all of these things harm the
[01:59:07.840 --> 01:59:13.720]  brain and the brain is the thinking processor it's going to save us it's
[01:59:13.720 --> 01:59:17.760]  going to figure out what the problems what the solutions to the problems are
[01:59:17.760 --> 01:59:24.720]  so we know now that wildfire smoke for instance it creates dementia it enhances
[01:59:24.720 --> 01:59:30.400]  the likelihood of somebody coming to manage so as the brain is affected
[01:59:30.400 --> 01:59:35.400]  negatively increasingly over longer and longer periods of time our ability to
[01:59:35.480 --> 01:59:40.320]  solve these problems is going to decrease so we've got to do it now we've
[01:59:40.320 --> 01:59:44.520]  got to get serious about it and this business of people getting up and saying
[01:59:44.520 --> 01:59:51.320]  the global warming is fiction and all that is really very very disturbing
[01:59:51.320 --> 01:59:56.520]  you know you know the example that you gave earlier of the fact that the Indian
[01:59:56.520 --> 01:59:59.560]  government was manipulating the temperature at some of the stations
[01:59:59.560 --> 02:00:04.000]  there that kind of works both ways they have put some of these temperature
[02:00:04.040 --> 02:00:09.400]  stations on the airport tarmacs and in the UK they have a lot of the temperature
[02:00:09.400 --> 02:00:12.680]  stations that they've got there they're just extrapolating the data they don't
[02:00:12.680 --> 02:00:16.640]  have real temperature measurement stations there so it all really gets
[02:00:16.640 --> 02:00:20.720]  back I think to the scientific method and and that's really where we have to
[02:00:20.720 --> 02:00:23.760]  hold people's feet to the fire we're talking about something like that we can
[02:00:23.760 --> 02:00:29.240]  have an absolute standard of what truth is and that truth is going to be being
[02:00:29.240 --> 02:00:33.840]  able to measure something accurately and being able to reproduce that and then I
[02:00:33.840 --> 02:00:37.960]  think a good yardstick for that is when somebody is trying to hide their data
[02:00:37.960 --> 02:00:42.600]  that's that's the clue right there that they're not doing science because if
[02:00:42.600 --> 02:00:46.360]  they're doing science and they're there they've come to the right conclusion
[02:00:46.360 --> 02:00:50.720]  they don't have a problem with somebody looking at their data and so I've got a
[02:00:50.720 --> 02:00:54.920]  question here for you from a person in the audience asking if you know about
[02:00:54.920 --> 02:00:59.560]  doctors James Giordano and Charles Morgan and their work with military I'm
[02:00:59.560 --> 02:01:02.720]  not familiar with those names I don't know if you know anything about that or
[02:01:03.720 --> 02:01:08.600]  Giordano says familiar what what particular thing are they asking about
[02:01:08.600 --> 02:01:11.640]  them I don't know it just says their work with military I guess would have to
[02:01:11.640 --> 02:01:17.800]  do with something but you haven't heard of it I could say Giordano did this or
[02:01:17.800 --> 02:01:22.400]  did that no sure I understand hey it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause
[02:01:22.400 --> 02:01:26.840]  what you're doing for just one minute and I want you to hear about Alejandra
[02:01:26.840 --> 02:01:31.960]  she lives in a remote community with very few resources and little to no
[02:01:31.960 --> 02:01:37.520]  health care so when Alejandra gets sick her parents have no real options no
[02:01:37.520 --> 02:01:43.840]  doctors in their community and no money for real medical care by the third day
[02:01:43.840 --> 02:01:48.760]  her body was shutting down she woke up and just long enough to tell her mom I
[02:01:48.760 --> 02:01:56.000]  can't take the pain anymore I can't keep going her parents drove hours to find a
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[02:03:21.440 --> 02:03:26.600]  about the things that we have been anxious about and of course as Christians
[02:03:26.600 --> 02:03:30.040]  we have one answer to it but you talk about how this is something that has
[02:03:30.040 --> 02:03:35.480]  been you know around pretty much all of our life I mean there was I grew up with
[02:03:35.480 --> 02:03:40.640]  anxiety about nuclear war for example that was in everybody's television and
[02:03:40.640 --> 02:03:45.840]  that was a forefront of our mind especially growing up in Florida when
[02:03:45.840 --> 02:03:48.960]  the Cuban Missile Crisis was happening they got us really afraid of that when
[02:03:48.960 --> 02:03:51.600]  I was in elementary school you know it's like there's not gonna be enough
[02:03:51.600 --> 02:03:55.720]  time for you to get home you know the nuclear bomb started falling and so I
[02:03:55.720 --> 02:03:59.680]  mean there's all these different ways that you can panic people I guess part
[02:03:59.680 --> 02:04:05.960]  of it is how do we identify the real problems and how do we deal with those
[02:04:05.960 --> 02:04:11.080]  problems because there's always things that are competing for our attention and
[02:04:11.080 --> 02:04:15.520]  our anxiety many of which are not real and usually the things that you're
[02:04:15.560 --> 02:04:19.840]  really the most concerned about don't happen and it may be sometimes because
[02:04:19.840 --> 02:04:23.800]  you have taken a precaution about it what would you say about that about
[02:04:23.800 --> 02:04:32.480]  anxiety you're starting to break up a little bit can you hear me clearly I
[02:04:32.480 --> 02:04:35.760]  hear you yes yes sorry about that you you're talking about breaking up a
[02:04:35.760 --> 02:04:41.040]  little bit you're talking about traumatizing a population you know what
[02:04:41.040 --> 02:04:44.120]  do you do to guard against that type of thing and of course that's going to
[02:04:44.120 --> 02:04:53.200]  really escalate with the ability of AI to create a narrative yeah well let's
[02:04:53.200 --> 02:04:57.800]  talk about it as an avenue to get into that let's go back to what you brought
[02:04:57.800 --> 02:05:03.200]  about the atomic weapons and the atomic war the fears of people that there's
[02:05:03.200 --> 02:05:08.600]  going to be another atomic war I mean you know this is not unrealistic there's
[02:05:08.600 --> 02:05:12.680]  even been a move has just come out that's getting all kinds of attention as
[02:05:12.680 --> 02:05:20.440]  you know and has to do with the threat of a nuclear war things in the if you
[02:05:20.440 --> 02:05:23.960]  look at what's happening in the Europe right now there's all kinds of
[02:05:23.960 --> 02:05:28.200]  suggestions that it could lead to a nuclear war I mean Ukraine now has
[02:05:28.200 --> 02:05:31.440]  announced that they're under no conditions willing to give up any land
[02:05:31.440 --> 02:05:38.800]  and Stalin is I mean Putin is thinking what he can do to change that but maybe
[02:05:38.840 --> 02:05:44.120]  he'll attack another country I mean this is scary stuff so what's happening in
[02:05:44.120 --> 02:05:49.720]  response to the government is to try to show that oh we shouldn't worry about it
[02:05:49.720 --> 02:05:56.280]  we have things under control but I don't think things are under control and you
[02:05:56.280 --> 02:05:59.520]  know we talked about the problems and we talked about problems on you have your
[02:05:59.520 --> 02:06:06.760]  final chapter is new ways of thinking and I'd like to talk about that one of
[02:06:06.800 --> 02:06:11.600]  things that you say is Ockham was wrong Ockham's razor that you know people are
[02:06:11.600 --> 02:06:16.880]  familiar with tell us a little bit about that why is Ockham wrong well because he
[02:06:16.880 --> 02:06:21.240]  says that you know the entities are not to be multiplied meaning that we can
[02:06:21.240 --> 02:06:25.600]  always explain things best by limiting ourselves to the minimum amount of
[02:06:25.600 --> 02:06:31.480]  factors ideally one one cause of every fact that's not true it's really not
[02:06:31.480 --> 02:06:36.520]  true in the 21st century where there's all kinds of interactions between factors
[02:06:36.520 --> 02:06:42.680]  and causes so that Ockham was wrong in that basis we have to think of an
[02:06:42.680 --> 02:06:46.760]  interconnecting pool just as in the brain of interconnections of neurons
[02:06:46.760 --> 02:06:51.120]  interconnections of these problems and they're all related they're all related
[02:06:51.120 --> 02:06:55.080]  all eight of them I talked about in my book they're all related and if you can
[02:06:55.080 --> 02:07:00.940]  figure a way of influencing one you influence all the others I mean who
[02:07:00.940 --> 02:07:04.520]  would think there'd be a connection between global warming and the amount of
[02:07:04.520 --> 02:07:10.760]  artisan and cheese for instance high-end cheese well there is because
[02:07:10.760 --> 02:07:15.160]  they don't chickens don't lay many eggs and there'd be all the various other
[02:07:15.160 --> 02:07:20.760]  things to come on in terms of making cheese I learned that the other
[02:07:20.760 --> 02:07:24.440]  day that was something that was a surprise to me you know it's kind of
[02:07:24.440 --> 02:07:28.560]  interesting we talked about connections so much there was a series that was I
[02:07:28.560 --> 02:07:31.640]  think it was on PBS I think the guy's name was Burke I can't remember his
[02:07:31.640 --> 02:07:34.820]  first name I'm not sure about the last name but he had a series called
[02:07:34.820 --> 02:07:39.120]  connections and and I thought it was fascinating because what he would do is
[02:07:39.120 --> 02:07:44.280]  he would take a whole series of connections to show how a particular
[02:07:44.280 --> 02:07:48.880]  technology had evolved you know so he might go from you know the quill to the
[02:07:48.880 --> 02:07:54.840]  to the jet engine or something like that and it was a fascinating fascinating
[02:07:54.840 --> 02:08:02.040]  thread of things is very much like what you're talking about it really is and I
[02:08:02.040 --> 02:08:06.640]  did I did consult his work actually did you I was writing this book because he
[02:08:06.640 --> 02:08:10.600]  did that connections he did a book called the day the world changed and all
[02:08:10.600 --> 02:08:14.800]  this he also did a book called circles in which he would start with one
[02:08:14.800 --> 02:08:19.440]  particular event that it had carried in history and if you go around the circle
[02:08:19.440 --> 02:08:24.160]  you come back to the beginning where it started where you need this particular
[02:08:24.160 --> 02:08:28.120]  inventor invented something what led up to it what was the circle leading to
[02:08:28.120 --> 02:08:32.360]  that so yes we're talking about connections and we're talking about the
[02:08:32.360 --> 02:08:38.520]  inability to understand things without reference to supporting and accessory
[02:08:38.520 --> 02:08:43.120]  factors we have that going all the time denying things that are going to be
[02:08:43.120 --> 02:08:48.280]  happening of course I think the fearful thing is that the government is aiding
[02:08:48.280 --> 02:08:53.200]  in this denial yeah because if you would deny that there's a problem then there's
[02:08:53.200 --> 02:08:59.040]  very little impetus to try to solve it you know yeah and they three are a
[02:08:59.040 --> 02:09:05.760]  problem don't try to solve it there they're throwing out their own chaos
[02:09:05.760 --> 02:09:10.080]  and uncertainty and anxiety that's out there all the time all the always I
[02:09:10.080 --> 02:09:15.560]  guess so the question is she talking about volatility uncertainty complexity
[02:09:15.560 --> 02:09:19.800]  and ambiguity I mean it sounds like a government policy I think they've got
[02:09:19.800 --> 02:09:25.360]  bureaucracies that specialize in that yeah yeah well actually that's true
[02:09:25.360 --> 02:09:29.360]  yeah that's in your section there about new ways of thinking and so how do we
[02:09:29.360 --> 02:09:33.440]  incorporate that in the new ways of thinking that help us to solve this
[02:09:33.440 --> 02:09:41.640]  riddle well each of those factors is a factor that helps you to understand
[02:09:41.640 --> 02:09:46.800]  things and to have more control doesn't necessarily mean it helps you to link
[02:09:46.800 --> 02:09:51.560]  them together that has to be done by original thinking by you have to be
[02:09:51.560 --> 02:09:56.360]  known under those things you things are volatile you don't have a basic
[02:09:56.360 --> 02:10:01.360]  situation that doesn't change it changes all the time so that the other the other
[02:10:01.360 --> 02:10:06.800]  thing that I want to emphasize most is that is the role of capitalism and all
[02:10:06.800 --> 02:10:12.880]  this I mean there's all this like the private equity the the business of
[02:10:12.880 --> 02:10:19.000]  people having a point of view that is going to advance them financially and
[02:10:19.000 --> 02:10:24.800]  that blinding them to the problems that are here like for instance we talked
[02:10:24.800 --> 02:10:29.000]  about global warming well the rich people are very rich people are buying
[02:10:29.000 --> 02:10:34.480]  multi-million dollar apartments and condominiums which have special air
[02:10:34.480 --> 02:10:40.640]  filters which will keep the wildfire smoke out and we'll try to keep the
[02:10:40.640 --> 02:10:50.560]  global warming effect at bay by super power air conditioners so the building
[02:10:50.560 --> 02:10:57.360]  they're building their own bunkers to creating all kinds of chaos and and you
[02:10:57.360 --> 02:11:00.760]  know weapons of war mass destruction they're out there building super
[02:11:00.760 --> 02:11:05.160]  bunkers in various places as well so I think they're somewhat pessimistic about
[02:11:05.160 --> 02:11:09.960]  what they're doing well it's basically the idea is that you know we don't care
[02:11:09.960 --> 02:11:14.680]  about the ordinary person we're gonna spy we're gonna see to our own survival
[02:11:14.680 --> 02:11:18.600]  and if we end in order to do that we have to deny certain things that are
[02:11:18.600 --> 02:11:22.680]  that are going on will do so now incidentally all of this is not
[02:11:22.680 --> 02:11:27.720]  conscious thinking they don't necessarily say well I'm gonna deny
[02:11:27.720 --> 02:11:31.840]  global warming because it'll be to my advantage financially because all my
[02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:36.800]  investment is in the coal the oil and gas industry they don't they don't do it
[02:11:36.800 --> 02:11:42.280]  that way they come up with pseudo logic things that seem to make sense to them
[02:11:42.280 --> 02:11:47.800]  but if they didn't have a financial thrust in the matter they would look out
[02:11:47.800 --> 02:11:51.200]  upon it quite differently that's right we can always find a justification for
[02:11:51.200 --> 02:11:55.600]  what it was what it is that we really want everybody should understand that if
[02:11:55.600 --> 02:11:58.360]  you're a parent this time of year at Christmas time you can always
[02:11:58.360 --> 02:12:02.280]  understand that people come up with a justification for what they want and
[02:12:02.280 --> 02:12:06.360]  that's that's as true of government as it is of corporations out there and it's
[02:12:06.360 --> 02:12:09.600]  really dangerous when the two of them connect with each other I think that's
[02:12:09.600 --> 02:12:12.480]  one of the things you know you talk about connections and the importance of
[02:12:12.480 --> 02:12:16.600]  it and how we can try to connect these different factors each of us
[02:12:16.600 --> 02:12:20.520]  individually but I think it's the the human connection that is out there that
[02:12:20.520 --> 02:12:25.680]  is going to be essential for all of this it's going to be our collective work on
[02:12:25.680 --> 02:12:30.600]  all this what do you think about that would you agree with that well I'd
[02:12:30.600 --> 02:12:33.440]  agree with it but there's so many things that are taking place now that are
[02:12:33.440 --> 02:12:40.520]  causing the schisms in yes splitting people into factors and belief systems
[02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:45.720]  and political points of view that are and that's very dangerous because then
[02:12:45.720 --> 02:12:51.200]  you can't get together any kind of unity even in the face of a emergency well I
[02:12:51.200 --> 02:12:54.960]  think we've always had I think we've always had these factor you know
[02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:57.720]  factions and things like that you know the founders of the country warned about
[02:12:57.720 --> 02:13:02.320]  factions and political parties but I think what makes it unique is that when
[02:13:02.320 --> 02:13:06.440]  you're interacting with people on a personal basis you interact with them a
[02:13:06.440 --> 02:13:10.800]  little bit differently than if you've got that separation between you the
[02:13:10.800 --> 02:13:14.600]  technology is giving us now because now you're interacting with something that's
[02:13:14.600 --> 02:13:18.720]  abstract is not with another person and there's also the body language that
[02:13:18.720 --> 02:13:22.920]  you're not picking up on but it makes it easier for you to be harder on people
[02:13:22.920 --> 02:13:26.400]  when there's that distance there I think that's why I think you know the
[02:13:26.400 --> 02:13:31.280]  personal connection I think is really vital to making these connections and
[02:13:31.280 --> 02:13:34.220]  coming up with a an understanding of what's going on we talked about the
[02:13:34.220 --> 02:13:39.000]  hidden factors that are out there hidden unrelated topics other people as you
[02:13:39.000 --> 02:13:42.920]  pointed out earlier just talking to ordinary people about what it is that
[02:13:42.920 --> 02:13:46.960]  you see with different things I think that is the genius of the collective
[02:13:46.960 --> 02:13:53.320]  free market out there that there's so many observers who are looking at things
[02:13:53.320 --> 02:13:57.880]  and thinking about them and it's kind of their collective decision that is kind
[02:13:57.880 --> 02:14:02.200]  of guiding things along hey it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause what
[02:14:02.200 --> 02:14:07.080]  you're doing for just one minute and I want you to hear about love generosity
[02:14:07.080 --> 02:14:11.700]  and compassion we say those words all the time and they sound good they feel
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[02:14:16.840 --> 02:14:22.800]  into action and right now not later today not tomorrow there's a child in
[02:14:22.800 --> 02:14:27.800]  the world who doesn't know if they'll eat if they'll have a chance to learn or
[02:14:27.800 --> 02:14:33.680]  if there's any hope at all and while we're all busy life keeps moving
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[02:15:39.240 --> 02:15:42.960]  planner who's doing that what do you think about that you you've got up in
[02:15:42.960 --> 02:15:46.840]  your in your final chapter a new way of thinking you have what you call a
[02:15:46.960 --> 02:15:53.600]  sensible solution what does that really involve I'm sorry I knew what you said
[02:15:53.600 --> 02:15:57.680]  what's the last part you have a sensible solution what what do you think a
[02:15:57.680 --> 02:16:04.080]  sensible solution to the kind of stress and chaos and anxiety that we have
[02:16:04.080 --> 02:16:07.480]  manipulation that we have what is the solution to that well I think the
[02:16:07.480 --> 02:16:12.760]  Wikipedia is a good example of that they have people from all walks of life all
[02:16:12.800 --> 02:16:19.200]  levels of education free to contribute to whatever topic they may want to do
[02:16:19.200 --> 02:16:23.640]  that it may be helpful I mentioned earlier about the effect of global
[02:16:23.640 --> 02:16:29.360]  warming on the making of cheese there might be somebody who makes cheese
[02:16:29.360 --> 02:16:33.600]  that's going to come up with some idea you know we don't know that we don't
[02:16:33.600 --> 02:16:38.200]  know that that may not be where comes some original idea I want to do about
[02:16:38.200 --> 02:16:41.960]  global warming and you put it on what I'd like to think and I hope it will be
[02:16:41.960 --> 02:16:48.440]  developed a kind of Wikipedia where the ordinary person can feel free to put
[02:16:48.440 --> 02:16:52.560]  forth their ideas about it now you say well we already have that we have the
[02:16:52.560 --> 02:16:57.800]  internet no we don't the internet is a commercial situation it's all done for
[02:16:57.800 --> 02:17:02.960]  making money and grab attention and all that and there's no criticism of it
[02:17:02.960 --> 02:17:07.640]  there's no pure review if you will press in the Wikipedia I mean you know people
[02:17:07.640 --> 02:17:11.880]  can write in and say well that particular contribution is bonkers and
[02:17:11.880 --> 02:17:15.840]  then give an example why it is or that was a very good idea and after that you
[02:17:15.840 --> 02:17:22.120]  begin to get things coming together in unpredictable ways that may help us
[02:17:22.120 --> 02:17:26.800]  solve these eight problems you know the problem is it seems like whenever you
[02:17:26.800 --> 02:17:30.960]  wind up having a form or a place where things can be and that's true of the
[02:17:30.960 --> 02:17:35.000]  Internet's also true of Wikipedia then it becomes you have gatekeepers who are
[02:17:35.000 --> 02:17:40.880]  there and we saw this in spades throughout the COVID stuff that if
[02:17:40.880 --> 02:17:46.400]  somebody's got a different idea rather than debate them the in the impetus is
[02:17:46.400 --> 02:17:51.800]  to silence them by the people who are an authority and so that really I think is
[02:17:51.800 --> 02:17:58.600]  the key thing and and I think as part of that we see a continuing rise in
[02:17:58.600 --> 02:18:07.320]  disgust and deprivation of free speech people are not interested in the
[02:18:07.320 --> 02:18:10.760]  principle of free speech they don't want to have open debate and I see this
[02:18:10.760 --> 02:18:14.800]  regardless of where people are coming from on the political spectrum there is
[02:18:14.800 --> 02:18:20.840]  a declining interest in debate and thinking you know the debate is as
[02:18:20.840 --> 02:18:26.080]  critical to critical thinking and so the people who are in charge the
[02:18:26.080 --> 02:18:30.560]  gatekeepers whether it's Wikipedia or the Internet or you know any other form
[02:18:30.560 --> 02:18:35.280]  of information they are weighing in on that and they don't want things that
[02:18:35.280 --> 02:18:38.680]  they disagree with and it might be because they've got an agenda or it
[02:18:38.680 --> 02:18:42.600]  might be because they've just got a particular prejudice about something
[02:18:42.600 --> 02:18:48.200]  they want to make sure that the contrary views don't get out there that that I
[02:18:48.200 --> 02:18:52.880]  think is the real key that's that's there and again this is part of this
[02:18:52.880 --> 02:18:57.440]  atomization that we have of people feeding that tribalism in a way that
[02:18:57.440 --> 02:19:01.680]  we've never seen it before using technology I agree with everything you've
[02:19:01.680 --> 02:19:08.240]  just said exactly and I think we have to try to get beyond that but there we get
[02:19:08.240 --> 02:19:12.760]  back again to this business of people having their own personal financial
[02:19:12.760 --> 02:19:19.240]  point of view and position and pushing that basically on the fact that they
[02:19:19.240 --> 02:19:24.680]  look upon it as so maybe we're talking about a capitalism problem we've got
[02:19:24.680 --> 02:19:27.880]  capitalism that's what this country's all about but I mean it's in certain
[02:19:27.880 --> 02:19:31.920]  parts of it now we've gotten to the point where people are unable to take
[02:19:31.920 --> 02:19:36.920]  another point of view if it's going to be financially harmful and hurtful to
[02:19:36.920 --> 02:19:42.520]  them yeah I think that you know we started looking at the tech companies I
[02:19:42.520 --> 02:19:45.920]  don't think that their capitalism would exist I don't think that have billions
[02:19:45.920 --> 02:19:49.680]  dollars if they weren't unified with the government so there's a there's a
[02:19:49.680 --> 02:19:56.320]  symbiosis there that the two of these entities feed off of each other and I
[02:19:56.320 --> 02:20:01.760]  think that nexus right there is the is a difficult thing and and so I think you
[02:20:01.760 --> 02:20:06.160]  know when I think of capitalism I don't like to refer to capitalism anymore
[02:20:06.160 --> 02:20:10.520]  because I I think of it as a partnership a public-private partnership
[02:20:10.520 --> 02:20:15.280]  some kind of a economic fascism where they are working together but I like to
[02:20:15.320 --> 02:20:19.240]  think of a free competitive market where the government doesn't have any role
[02:20:19.240 --> 02:20:23.320]  except as some kind of a referee between two parties that have a conflict or
[02:20:23.320 --> 02:20:27.240]  something but yeah that's a that's the thing that's really driving this show
[02:20:27.240 --> 02:20:30.200]  many people when they talk about AI they said well you know here's a couple
[02:20:30.200 --> 02:20:33.880]  different outcomes maybe this stuff really works the way it's supposed to
[02:20:33.880 --> 02:20:37.760]  work and takes everybody's jobs and we wind up with a depression or maybe it
[02:20:37.760 --> 02:20:41.960]  doesn't work at all in which case the big AI stock bubble that we've got
[02:20:42.000 --> 02:20:45.800]  burst and everybody loses their job because of that and so well there's a
[02:20:45.800 --> 02:20:49.520]  third alternative and that is that the government keeps propping it up with
[02:20:49.520 --> 02:20:56.480]  public funds because it feeds their surveillance and manipulation needs
[02:20:56.480 --> 02:21:02.160]  their ability to surveil and to control us and I really think that that's where
[02:21:02.160 --> 02:21:05.640]  this is all going to head I don't really you know those other two things may
[02:21:05.640 --> 02:21:10.720]  happen and they may be true but I think there is a customer out there for the AI
[02:21:10.720 --> 02:21:13.720]  stuff that is driving all this stuff that has been putting out these
[02:21:13.720 --> 02:21:16.800]  proposals for the longest time and this government's governments around the
[02:21:16.800 --> 02:21:21.280]  world I mean we look at the brain project that we had a few years ago that
[02:21:21.280 --> 02:21:25.320]  was during the Obama administration but things like the brain-computer interface
[02:21:25.320 --> 02:21:30.360]  that Elon Musk and many other tech companies are doing out there this
[02:21:30.360 --> 02:21:34.040]  neural link and there's a lot of them they're doing that that's being driven
[02:21:34.040 --> 02:21:39.160]  by the government wanting to connect into our minds hack into our minds
[02:21:39.160 --> 02:21:42.960]  really and they've been funding that kind of so how do we how do we break
[02:21:42.960 --> 02:21:48.400]  that yeah on the musk side it's he's doing it for money I mean obviously to
[02:21:48.400 --> 02:21:52.520]  make money that's right so that there's an unholy alliance if you will between
[02:21:52.520 --> 02:21:57.240]  someone who's can't see anything other than the dollar and in another side the
[02:21:57.240 --> 02:22:00.840]  government can't see anything other than increasing power and surveillance over
[02:22:00.840 --> 02:22:05.000]  the population yeah that's right absolutely true well it's a
[02:22:05.000 --> 02:22:09.680]  fascinating book it's fascinating take on this and and of course you've written
[02:22:09.680 --> 02:22:14.920]  many books on the brain the memory one very interesting and and you do have
[02:22:14.920 --> 02:22:20.400]  sections about memory in this book as well and people be able to find this on
[02:22:20.400 --> 02:22:24.360]  Amazon I guess is the best place that they can find it looking for the title
[02:22:24.360 --> 02:22:30.840]  of this and it is you know it is something that I think we all need to
[02:22:30.920 --> 02:22:36.240]  think about how we're going to operate the effects that this technology is
[02:22:36.240 --> 02:22:39.800]  having on our brains in the 21st century and that is the title of the book the
[02:22:39.800 --> 02:22:45.480]  21st century brain by Richard rest tack thank you very much dr. rest act thank
[02:22:45.480 --> 02:22:50.840]  you appreciate you coming on thank you very interesting conversation thank you
[02:22:50.840 --> 02:22:57.040]  have a good day folks we're gonna take a quick break and we will be right back
[02:24:00.880 --> 02:24:05.320]  all right welcome back and joining us now is Wayne Morrow he is the CEO of the
[02:24:05.320 --> 02:24:11.480]  John Birch Society and he's got something I think is very interesting to
[02:24:11.480 --> 02:24:17.720]  talk about and that is Fabian socialism you probably heard this term before but
[02:24:17.720 --> 02:24:21.640]  maybe you don't understand what it is or the difference between it and the marks
[02:24:21.640 --> 02:24:27.080]  and and Karl Marx's approach and how much more dangerous it is you know for
[02:24:27.080 --> 02:24:34.200]  me growing up Fabian was a teen idol and I saw Fabian socialism is like what is
[02:24:34.200 --> 02:24:41.040]  that you know but actually it's a famous Roman general and the and I guess
[02:24:41.040 --> 02:24:45.640]  Fabian's parents were Italian and I guess maybe there that was the namesake
[02:24:45.640 --> 02:24:51.960]  or they might have been socialist but anyway it is it is important to
[02:24:51.960 --> 02:24:55.680]  understand the distinction because they have very different tactics that they
[02:24:55.680 --> 02:25:00.800]  use to achieve the same totalitarian goals so joining us now is Wayne Morrow
[02:25:00.800 --> 02:25:04.880]  CEO of the John Birch Society thank you for joining us sir thank you David
[02:25:04.880 --> 02:25:10.680]  appreciate being here and yeah it's Fabian's much like the Council on Foreign
[02:25:10.680 --> 02:25:15.360]  Relations very little known about people in their respective countries it's sort
[02:25:15.360 --> 02:25:18.960]  of that secretive behind-the-scenes group you know that's part of the plan
[02:25:18.960 --> 02:25:22.840]  you know and you mentioned you told me just as we were talking here just before
[02:25:23.000 --> 02:25:27.160]  you came on how you there is also a book that the John Birch Society sells called
[02:25:27.160 --> 02:25:35.680]  the Fabian Freeway yes yeah it's a book we written past and we republished it we
[02:25:35.680 --> 02:25:39.120]  have our own publishing company called the Western Islands and the Fabian
[02:25:39.120 --> 02:25:44.280]  Freeway is a book about the genesis of the Fabians and how impacted are even
[02:25:44.280 --> 02:25:48.840]  our US policies and our foreign policies it all ties together but it's a real good
[02:25:48.840 --> 02:25:54.120]  book and it's over about 600 pages so it's not a quick read but it's in depth
[02:25:54.120 --> 02:25:58.880]  and I think it's for people are serious students about history and what goes on
[02:25:58.880 --> 02:26:03.760]  today surely I call we're the top of the puzzle box you know now we understand
[02:26:03.760 --> 02:26:08.040]  those on that's right that's right but also a bit about us about Fabian
[02:26:08.040 --> 02:26:12.200]  socialism you know what was it about that general that they liked and how does
[02:26:12.200 --> 02:26:17.360]  that tell us about their tactics and how is it different from Marxism hey it's
[02:26:17.360 --> 02:26:21.880]  Ben Ferguson and I want to be honest with you for a second about how an act
[02:26:21.880 --> 02:26:26.780]  of compassion really feels a couple of years ago I made the choice to partner
[02:26:26.780 --> 02:26:32.120]  with an amazing organization called Compassion International why because I
[02:26:32.120 --> 02:26:38.240]  wanted to sponsor a child in need it was a nice idea sure but I had no idea just
[02:26:38.240 --> 02:26:44.720]  how much that simple act would change my life as well I sponsored Nadia and got
[02:26:44.720 --> 02:26:49.880]  to watch her life change right in front of my eyes going from starving literally
[02:26:49.880 --> 02:26:54.520]  alone on the streets to getting the health care and education she needs to
[02:26:54.520 --> 02:27:00.200]  reach her God-given full potential I got to be a part of that change and the
[02:27:00.200 --> 02:27:04.640]  light of that compassion not only illuminates in her it illuminates now
[02:27:04.640 --> 02:27:11.320]  in me that is the power of compassion the light of Christ shines on all of us
[02:27:11.320 --> 02:27:16.560]  feel it for yourself and change literally a child's life change the
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[02:27:58.120 --> 02:28:02.680]  anyway the the Genesis was as you mentioned Quintus Fabius Maximus he was
[02:28:02.680 --> 02:28:09.920]  a Roman general very slow moving he was very you know quiet but he was slow
[02:28:09.920 --> 02:28:15.560]  and unforceful and much like the Fabians took his name because that's the
[02:28:15.560 --> 02:28:21.160]  process they want you know their moniker originally was wolf and sheep's clothing
[02:28:21.160 --> 02:28:25.560]  and that didn't work over too well figure that one out for a while and they said
[02:28:25.560 --> 02:28:30.200]  now we'll go switch to a turtle Republicans Democrats could use that
[02:28:30.200 --> 02:28:34.960]  imagery as well it's a donkey and they could have a wolf in a jeep for both of
[02:28:34.960 --> 02:28:38.360]  them yeah they had to change their Monica because it wasn't going over well
[02:28:38.360 --> 02:28:43.000]  but you know if you go back to the Genesis of it all Cecil Rhodes and Lord
[02:28:43.000 --> 02:28:49.700]  Milner were involved in forming this elite group and George Bernard Shaw was
[02:28:49.700 --> 02:28:54.200]  certainly one of the members and the web Sydney Webb and all and you know they
[02:28:54.200 --> 02:29:00.920]  were very open about socialism and you know they're the dispute they had
[02:29:00.920 --> 02:29:06.080]  between Marx and in themselves was they wanted to believe in the more the
[02:29:06.080 --> 02:29:14.600]  ethical slow-moving educational route versus violence and so that was their
[02:29:14.600 --> 02:29:20.600]  goal so you know they they formed you know the London School of Economics and
[02:29:20.600 --> 02:29:26.480]  out of that school you know they put in place various key legislators in
[02:29:26.480 --> 02:29:33.280]  government and even in our institutions around the UK and they knew that by by
[02:29:33.280 --> 02:29:37.560]  influencing pilot public policy it didn't make any difference who was the
[02:29:37.560 --> 02:29:41.600]  elected official because they were setting the policy they do that today's
[02:29:41.600 --> 02:29:47.480]  a matter of fact yeah yeah and so George Bernard Shaw was he was also very large
[02:29:47.480 --> 02:29:50.960]  on eugenics matter of fact I don't have that video clip but if you can listen
[02:29:50.960 --> 02:29:56.040]  to their audio clip he talks about once every five years this is this one we'd
[02:29:56.040 --> 02:29:59.680]  have to stand in front of this board to determine if we should be live worthy of
[02:29:59.680 --> 02:30:08.140]  staying alive or not so he's gonna go just destroyed my appreciation of my
[02:30:08.140 --> 02:30:17.820]  fair lady right can you imagine so it's amazing and you know and so every
[02:30:17.820 --> 02:30:24.900]  prime minister every Labour Party member of the UK is as part of it is a Fabian
[02:30:24.900 --> 02:30:32.060]  and so the Fabian's goal is is always has been as we call it socialism was a
[02:30:32.060 --> 02:30:37.380]  slow walk to Marxism and what they want to do is govern every aspect of your
[02:30:37.380 --> 02:30:42.260]  life and force globalism so as you see now today with Keir Starmer who by the
[02:30:42.260 --> 02:30:47.820]  way is a Fabian as well as the mayor of London you're watching it happen the
[02:30:47.820 --> 02:30:54.100]  country being destroyed and I have podcasts with folks in London and I tell
[02:30:54.100 --> 02:31:00.500]  them this is all to cue this is exactly what the plan is to destroy their
[02:31:00.500 --> 02:31:05.100]  heritage their history to bring in usher in world government now when you say
[02:31:05.940 --> 02:31:11.500]  yes yes when you say they're Fabians is there still an organization that they
[02:31:11.500 --> 02:31:15.020]  belong as an active member like somebody would belong to the joint John Birch
[02:31:15.020 --> 02:31:19.860]  Society so they actually so have the Fabian society there yeah yes yeah Tony Blair is a
[02:31:19.860 --> 02:31:25.860]  member of the Fabians you know he's very active with it by the way you know with
[02:31:25.860 --> 02:31:29.980]  the World Economic Forum interesting but if you go online you can look up the
[02:31:29.980 --> 02:31:33.980]  Fabian Society they have organization in Australia they're young Fabians you know
[02:31:33.980 --> 02:31:39.980]  but they exist I mean they exist today and when I speak to the British very few
[02:31:39.980 --> 02:31:45.740]  really understand the Fabians Liz Trust I met Liz Trust a past prime minister I
[02:31:45.740 --> 02:31:50.580]  was at a CEO conference and I gave her my card and I said I'll send you a copy
[02:31:50.580 --> 02:31:55.940]  of the Fabian freeway now she's actively doing YouTube phenomenon it's not because
[02:31:55.940 --> 02:31:59.940]  they said you never mentioned the Fabians Liz but you know I think she
[02:31:59.940 --> 02:32:06.060]  knew exactly what they were but the whole thing was David back in Woodrow
[02:32:06.060 --> 02:32:12.180]  Wilson's days when he actually worked with Colonel Mandel House another
[02:32:12.180 --> 02:32:16.260]  globalist they formed this thing called the inquiry and the inquiry was a group
[02:32:16.260 --> 02:32:21.380]  of men we're British in US and they've they disguise how we how are we going to
[02:32:21.380 --> 02:32:25.380]  work together and kind of really conquer the world as far as a political agenda
[02:32:25.380 --> 02:32:31.700]  and then eventually total and so that was a genesis of the Council on Foreign
[02:32:31.700 --> 02:32:37.020]  Relations so the Council on Foreign Relations which is housed in New York City they and the
[02:32:37.020 --> 02:32:44.100]  Fabians work together as we speak today and setting governance and policy and
[02:32:44.100 --> 02:32:47.860]  they do that regardless what the elections look like they're behind the
[02:32:47.860 --> 02:32:52.460]  scenes doing foreign policy and that's why we always look at each other why
[02:32:52.460 --> 02:32:57.420]  doesn't everything change well that's because behind the scenes the same
[02:32:57.420 --> 02:33:01.220]  folks have been working the agenda that's what's going on and we have to
[02:33:01.220 --> 02:33:06.060]  bring the light to the UK people as well as the United States that this group
[02:33:06.060 --> 02:33:12.140]  these groups are hard at work directing our foreign policy but our future it is
[02:33:12.140 --> 02:33:16.700]  for world government it's nothing to do with freedom and our job at the Bird
[02:33:16.700 --> 02:33:21.620]  Society is through education to make people aware of who they are so we know
[02:33:21.660 --> 02:33:25.940]  what to do it's not mystical it's not magical it's not a beauty contest when
[02:33:25.940 --> 02:33:30.180]  you elect somebody but we have to know the threats are real and we see it today
[02:33:30.180 --> 02:33:35.460]  yes it sounds very much like Antonio Gramsci the father of the Italian
[02:33:35.460 --> 02:33:39.660]  Communist Party's strategy where you wanted to march through the institutions
[02:33:39.660 --> 02:33:44.900]  how is it different than Gramsci's communism because and I mentioned
[02:33:44.900 --> 02:33:50.820]  Antonio Gramsci because Pete Buttigieg is what I call him because he's very proud
[02:33:50.820 --> 02:33:55.620]  of that but you know his father spent his entire career at Notre Dame that was
[02:33:55.620 --> 02:34:01.260]  really his specialty Antonio Gramsci and he had him go to Harvard where he
[02:34:01.260 --> 02:34:08.400]  studied under Sokvan Berkovich who was also very much a fan of Italian
[02:34:08.400 --> 02:34:15.580]  communism he changed his name to honor Soko and Vanzetti and so you know that
[02:34:15.580 --> 02:34:20.680]  I've focused I learned something about Antonio Gramsci because of Buttigieg but
[02:34:20.680 --> 02:34:23.660]  I also called him booty marks because that's really where they're trying to
[02:34:23.660 --> 02:34:29.020]  take us but again it is a slow march through the institutions and so what is
[02:34:29.020 --> 02:34:31.860]  the difference is it that one of them was Italian and the other one was
[02:34:31.860 --> 02:34:38.020]  predominantly English and American kind of Anglo yeah well Gramsci was involved
[02:34:38.020 --> 02:34:43.380]  as a Italian he's from Sardinia and he was grew up in that area farm he watched
[02:34:43.420 --> 02:34:48.460]  the farmer owners take advantage of the farmer workers he actually has a book
[02:34:48.460 --> 02:34:53.700]  called David called the Gramsci papers prison papers and that's about this
[02:34:53.700 --> 02:34:57.500]  thing I have behind me in my library and it was written on toilet paper by the
[02:34:57.500 --> 02:35:05.700]  way and he passed it to his sister and it became the Gramsci pay the prison
[02:35:05.700 --> 02:35:11.260]  papers and Gramsci was you know a threat to you know the Nazis in Germany and
[02:35:11.460 --> 02:35:15.340]  that's why it was called the Frankfurt School and Hitler tossed him out of the
[02:35:15.340 --> 02:35:21.580]  United States they end up in clubby University and and so the goal then was
[02:35:21.580 --> 02:35:27.540]  then to indoctrinate and reduce the morality of young college students and
[02:35:27.540 --> 02:35:32.340]  shoved down their throat socialism communism so now we have the professors
[02:35:32.340 --> 02:35:38.780]  from various institutions in the country about remember that then the 60s about
[02:35:38.820 --> 02:35:41.980]  the hippie moving all that was all coming from the Frankfurt School through
[02:35:41.980 --> 02:35:46.020]  Columbia University destroy they knew they have this is what Gramsci said
[02:35:46.020 --> 02:35:51.340]  David I can't we can't destroy the United States or Western society as we
[02:35:51.340 --> 02:35:56.700]  talked to it economically that's hard yeah we have to change hey it's Ben
[02:35:56.700 --> 02:36:01.140]  Ferguson and I want to be honest with you for a second about how an act of
[02:36:01.140 --> 02:36:05.860]  compassion really feels a couple of years ago I made the choice to partner
[02:36:05.860 --> 02:36:11.260]  with an amazing organization called Compassion International why because I
[02:36:11.260 --> 02:36:17.580]  wanted to sponsor a child in need it was a nice idea sure but I had no idea just
[02:36:17.580 --> 02:36:23.780]  how much that simple act would change my life as well I sponsored Nadia and got
[02:36:23.780 --> 02:36:28.940]  to watch her life change right in front of my eyes going from starving literally
[02:36:28.940 --> 02:36:33.580]  alone on the streets to getting the health care and education she needs to
[02:36:33.780 --> 02:36:39.260]  reach her God-given full potential I got to be a part of that change and the
[02:36:39.260 --> 02:36:43.660]  light of that compassion not only illuminates in her it illuminates now
[02:36:43.660 --> 02:36:50.380]  in me that is the power of compassion the light of Christ shines on all of us
[02:36:50.380 --> 02:36:55.620]  feel it for yourself and change literally a child's life change the
[02:36:55.620 --> 02:37:00.540]  world and you also change yourself you can sponsor child today visit
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[02:37:38.340 --> 02:37:41.260]  could do that we could destroy the morality because that's the glue that
[02:37:41.260 --> 02:37:45.820]  holds them together then we can destroy them and that's what that's the whole
[02:37:45.820 --> 02:37:49.420]  story with the Frankfurt School which ended up at Columbia University if you
[02:37:49.420 --> 02:37:53.460]  think about it where we are back in the 40s to where today you could see the
[02:37:53.460 --> 02:37:56.940]  morality of the United States going the other direction and that's all according
[02:37:56.940 --> 02:38:00.260]  to plan and that's why they got so heavily involved in Hollywood and the
[02:38:00.260 --> 02:38:03.260]  entertainment business as well absolutely correct and that's what
[02:38:03.260 --> 02:38:09.420]  happened so they knew that's exactly one of the key points it makes the United
[02:38:09.420 --> 02:38:14.500]  States of Western civilization so strong as our moral behavior and our beliefs so
[02:38:14.500 --> 02:38:18.340]  that's what we see today but that's a difference between the two and so their
[02:38:18.340 --> 02:38:23.540]  Marxist but they use that social element they said Karl Marx wasn't right he
[02:38:23.540 --> 02:38:27.460]  thought economics was the only way no we're gonna have to do the moral end of
[02:38:27.460 --> 02:38:30.780]  it so that's they morphed it into another strategy but it's all the same
[02:38:30.780 --> 02:38:35.260]  man goal is still slavery and you can see that very much in what sock van
[02:38:35.260 --> 02:38:43.020]  Berkovich focused on there at Harvard everything for him was a product of
[02:38:43.020 --> 02:38:47.340]  puritanism and so we've got to overthrow this whole the puritan roots of America
[02:38:47.340 --> 02:38:50.900]  and we've got to attack it at its foundation but he was really what he was
[02:38:50.900 --> 02:38:55.860]  trying to do was to attack the moral foundation of the country that's why he
[02:38:55.860 --> 02:39:00.860]  focused on that so much but everything he talked about was in terms of that you
[02:39:00.860 --> 02:39:04.780]  know well this is because of the you know the Mayflower and we got to get rid
[02:39:04.780 --> 02:39:10.220]  of that but it is kind of interesting and of course we see other approaches as
[02:39:10.220 --> 02:39:19.420]  well you had people like Bill Ayers okay they decided that they would they said
[02:39:19.420 --> 02:39:25.100]  well we've had class struggles over you know for Marxism in Europe that's not
[02:39:25.100 --> 02:39:27.860]  going to work here it's not working here that well so let's go to a race
[02:39:27.860 --> 02:39:32.620]  struggle so there's yet another approach that the communists have taken they've
[02:39:32.620 --> 02:39:37.580]  got so many different prongs to get all of them take us to the same hell don't
[02:39:37.580 --> 02:39:45.980]  they yeah we do the dirty work for them we have you know class struggles men
[02:39:45.980 --> 02:39:51.060]  against women that's another big one now children against their parents black
[02:39:51.060 --> 02:39:56.060]  versus white or tan it's all about it's all about conflict and war that's the
[02:39:56.060 --> 02:40:01.340]  that's the that's their goal because they need that to enforce more rules and
[02:40:01.340 --> 02:40:05.660]  regulations of government and less freedom you guys can't play nice okay
[02:40:05.660 --> 02:40:10.460]  well we're gonna incite that in there and you know the Marxists knew that one
[02:40:10.460 --> 02:40:14.540]  of the goals and it's well written over a period of time lots of documentation
[02:40:14.540 --> 02:40:20.780]  on how that works but that's the goal so they're playing to our frailties of
[02:40:20.780 --> 02:40:27.380]  humans you know rich versus poor black versus white tan versus white Chinese
[02:40:27.380 --> 02:40:31.940]  whatever doesn't make a difference because their endgame is world
[02:40:31.940 --> 02:40:36.340]  government and they know that they can't have a lot of us so we have to we have
[02:40:36.340 --> 02:40:41.300]  to exterminate some so let those guys exterminate themselves and that's what
[02:40:41.300 --> 02:40:44.740]  we see you know and we're seeing that now in the UK as we start our
[02:40:44.740 --> 02:40:49.700]  conversation about the Fabians as I talked to the folks in the UK we're
[02:40:49.700 --> 02:40:54.340]  watching their country and I used to live there work there in Oxfordshire so
[02:40:54.340 --> 02:40:59.380]  I know the country rather well and I'm watching those folks being destroyed by
[02:40:59.380 --> 02:41:04.500]  the invaders on purpose but they're doing their dirty work destroying all
[02:41:04.500 --> 02:41:10.580]  their history and inflict terror and terror into the those folks in Ireland
[02:41:10.580 --> 02:41:16.220]  as well as the UK and they're concerned but I'm seeing a resurgence of the
[02:41:16.220 --> 02:41:22.180]  British citizen rising up I was about a month ago you recall in in London they
[02:41:22.180 --> 02:41:28.940]  had people marching with the British flag it wasn't 200,000 David we had
[02:41:28.940 --> 02:41:32.140]  people that were there and they said it was more like 3 million people were
[02:41:32.140 --> 02:41:35.980]  there you'll see farmer trucks now marching into London with their
[02:41:35.980 --> 02:41:41.900]  tractors they don't want to be slaves and I've talked enough Europeans they
[02:41:41.900 --> 02:41:45.300]  don't want to be a part of the European EC any longer they're losing their
[02:41:45.300 --> 02:41:50.020]  sovereignty they love their history David and they really respect and when I
[02:41:50.020 --> 02:41:55.180]  travel throughout Europe when I live there they really love their history and
[02:41:55.180 --> 02:41:59.580]  they love their heritage it's being destroyed systematically and it does not
[02:41:59.580 --> 02:42:04.700]  work one one thing I wanted to tell you which is interesting I found out talking
[02:42:04.700 --> 02:42:10.580]  to several of the folks within you know past legislators they tell me they get
[02:42:10.580 --> 02:42:16.940]  their news about the United States in two ways CNN and the New York Times
[02:42:16.940 --> 02:42:25.340]  what does that tell you David yeah you're gonna see CNN I go what does that do
[02:42:25.340 --> 02:42:29.860]  in there you know I'm in you know I'm in Hungary or I'm in Italy I'm watching
[02:42:29.860 --> 02:42:34.940]  CNN but that's how they look at the United States I said well that's totally
[02:42:34.940 --> 02:42:38.940]  upside down you know yeah well I had a friend who worked in the Pentagon and
[02:42:38.940 --> 02:42:44.620]  you know about 20 or 30 years ago and when I talked to him he said yeah CNN is
[02:42:44.620 --> 02:42:47.260]  playing on the screen all over the Pentagon all the different rooms and
[02:42:47.260 --> 02:42:55.820]  everything that's a it's very important that who you listen to and you know and
[02:42:55.820 --> 02:43:03.060]  I've always tried to listen to various sources and I would go to the I always
[02:43:03.060 --> 02:43:07.540]  preferred people who would tell me what they think and why they think it rather
[02:43:07.540 --> 02:43:12.100]  than the people who try to be this mushy middle like Time and Newsweek you know
[02:43:12.100 --> 02:43:16.340]  so I was always looking at The Nation or National Review or something like that
[02:43:16.340 --> 02:43:21.380]  even though I don't support their views I'd like to see that conflict that was
[02:43:21.380 --> 02:43:25.260]  there because a lot of times that would help me to understand where I stood on
[02:43:25.260 --> 02:43:29.060]  the issue so I try to get these people that are opposed to each other but most
[02:43:29.060 --> 02:43:33.020]  people just go for something like Time or Newsweek or CNN and it's kind of the
[02:43:33.020 --> 02:43:38.500]  the mushy middle that's put out there by the Mockingbird programs that are out
[02:43:38.500 --> 02:43:41.620]  there for people but that's why it's very important for people to educate
[02:43:41.620 --> 02:43:45.220]  themselves and that's a very important thing that you do at the John Birch
[02:43:45.220 --> 02:43:48.660]  Society tell us a little bit about the John Birch Society and how it's organized at
[02:43:48.660 --> 02:43:55.020]  local level. We started in 1958 and our goal is education you know education is
[02:43:55.020 --> 02:43:59.740]  really critical for us educating people about American values our job is limited
[02:43:59.740 --> 02:44:04.180]  government you know so people call us far-right that's not true we're actually
[02:44:04.180 --> 02:44:08.780]  constitutional moderates some form of government are not total all the left is
[02:44:08.780 --> 02:44:13.500]  all the isms Glee, fascism right and our job is to teach American Americanism it's
[02:44:13.500 --> 02:44:17.820]  not taught anymore so we have free courses online the JBS.org about
[02:44:17.820 --> 02:44:22.260]  teaching about the Constitution and we said how do you elect constitutional
[02:44:22.460 --> 02:44:27.740]  representative state local or federal if you don't know the playbook so how do
[02:44:27.740 --> 02:44:32.300]  you hold them accountable and what's not taught on purpose so now it becomes a
[02:44:32.300 --> 02:44:36.500]  personality contest we don't want that so we teach people Americanism and we
[02:44:36.500 --> 02:44:39.380]  give them the history and we show them who's behind the curtain like we
[02:44:39.380 --> 02:44:44.020]  mentioned the Fabians and the CFR and who's forming foreign policy and once
[02:44:44.020 --> 02:44:47.620]  people know what goes on that's important we call it a conspiracy it's
[02:44:47.620 --> 02:44:52.420]  not theory any longer but the conspiracy says this the first goal is to deny its
[02:44:52.420 --> 02:44:57.340]  existence of course yeah so we said look let's expose them it's not us that's why
[02:44:57.340 --> 02:45:01.020]  I have a thousand books behind me is that over the course of time it proves
[02:45:01.020 --> 02:45:06.580]  that they does exist and they actually come out and talk about it it's
[02:45:06.580 --> 02:45:12.100]  interesting as we we as we look through time and look through history I always
[02:45:12.100 --> 02:45:17.300]  go and go back to my UK experience where Otis Huxley was a Fabian I go back to
[02:45:17.300 --> 02:45:20.860]  that for a second to answer your question and what happened is he was
[02:45:20.860 --> 02:45:23.980]  writing this this guy was a young author writing all the information about what
[02:45:23.980 --> 02:45:30.620]  he heard he was so excited about it that he decided to write a book and he said I
[02:45:30.620 --> 02:45:34.740]  can't use my pen name my name is Eric Blair I can't use that I have to use a
[02:45:34.740 --> 02:45:39.220]  pen name so hey it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause what you're doing for
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[02:47:35.540 --> 02:47:40.980]  name is George and or what Joe George Orwell is really the Eric Blair and he
[02:47:40.980 --> 02:47:46.340]  wrote 1984 about the Fabians the question becomes and why is it 1984 well
[02:47:46.340 --> 02:47:51.860]  January 4th of 1884 is the foundational of the Fabians and they said with the
[02:47:51.860 --> 02:47:56.940]  100 years we have a world government that's why that books title 1984 oh so
[02:47:56.940 --> 02:48:06.580]  I heard people say because he wrote it in 1948 but yeah because he was
[02:48:06.580 --> 02:48:11.500]  indoctrinated by HG Wells and Alex Huxley about when he writes about Big
[02:48:11.500 --> 02:48:16.740]  Brother and Newspeak that's all about the Fabians and now that's in vogue I'm
[02:48:16.740 --> 02:48:22.100]  saying hey look that wasn't done as a science fiction that was really his
[02:48:22.100 --> 02:48:26.180]  telling you and he couldn't you know hold himself he said I have to really
[02:48:26.300 --> 02:48:30.140]  talk about this that's why it's an I believe that I personally believe that's
[02:48:30.140 --> 02:48:33.780]  why it's 1984 it's a hundred years of existence and of course I mentioned the
[02:48:33.780 --> 02:48:39.340]  Council on Formulations is a child of the Fabians and now we have an American
[02:48:39.340 --> 02:48:42.860]  version that we have you know the European version work in unison so our
[02:48:42.860 --> 02:48:48.260]  job is in birch society is educate people what's going on to be personally
[02:48:48.260 --> 02:48:52.700]  responsible to elect constitutional moderates and constitution minded
[02:48:52.700 --> 02:48:58.020]  representatives state local and federal so we can we can monitor not only our
[02:48:58.020 --> 02:49:04.580]  behavior but go back to constitutional based law and not ruled by elitist and
[02:49:04.580 --> 02:49:09.260]  that's what we see today yeah and so you know and it's important for people to
[02:49:09.260 --> 02:49:14.340]  understand how many different ways they come at us in order to set up a
[02:49:14.340 --> 02:49:18.100]  totalitarian government they have so many different tactics and strategies
[02:49:18.100 --> 02:49:21.620]  and of course one of those I think that you're talking about all the sucks Lee
[02:49:21.620 --> 02:49:26.620]  and others like that HG Wells and Huxley the the technocracy that was there I
[02:49:26.620 --> 02:49:29.860]  mean talk a little bit about technocracy as well that's really kind of coming to
[02:49:29.860 --> 02:49:33.380]  us people don't really know where to fit that you know because it doesn't really
[02:49:33.380 --> 02:49:38.020]  fit into the left-right paradigm and yet that seems to be on the ascendancy as
[02:49:38.020 --> 02:49:42.100]  well talk a bit a little bit about well you know the story about technology you
[02:49:42.100 --> 02:49:46.500]  know but X have a fellow used to be a member of the birth site was a where's
[02:49:46.500 --> 02:49:50.380]  it a CIA he said smile a lot because your picture gets taken about 300 times
[02:49:50.380 --> 02:49:58.020]  a day that's right yeah you go bang grocery store going to get gas joy but
[02:49:58.020 --> 02:50:04.780]  technocracy is a tool for for monitoring and governance and they that's why you
[02:50:04.780 --> 02:50:09.420]  see I AI data data centers and all every little thing that you've done and they
[02:50:09.420 --> 02:50:12.820]  they're openly said this in the Bank of International Settlements they want to
[02:50:12.820 --> 02:50:16.780]  have this digital currency where they can monitor every any of your
[02:50:16.780 --> 02:50:21.780]  expenditures from a hundred dollars on up so they could determine by checking
[02:50:21.780 --> 02:50:25.860]  China if you have a bad social score then you're not gonna buy anything so if
[02:50:25.860 --> 02:50:30.020]  you think about technology is going to be their weapon or tool to keep you in
[02:50:30.020 --> 02:50:33.940]  line that's where I see it happening and they're doing it through a lot of
[02:50:33.940 --> 02:50:38.300]  different angles it looks kind of cool but that's really the goal well things I
[02:50:38.300 --> 02:50:42.460]  began the program with today was talking about the fact that you know I mentioned
[02:50:42.460 --> 02:50:46.780]  all the time about how artificial intelligence is really going to be a
[02:50:46.780 --> 02:50:52.180]  superpower for any kind of government tyranny to be able to monitor you and
[02:50:52.180 --> 02:50:54.940]  everything you're doing is you're just talking about but also to manipulate
[02:50:54.940 --> 02:51:00.580]  opinion as well and that's why it's very concerning to me to see that that this
[02:51:00.580 --> 02:51:06.940]  this latest executive order from Trump that essentially presumes to prohibit
[02:51:06.940 --> 02:51:11.140]  any state laws that would curb things that are happening with AI companies
[02:51:11.140 --> 02:51:15.220]  because I think what where that would really happen would be with the data
[02:51:15.220 --> 02:51:19.660]  centers I think it's where the big conflict is going to come and you know
[02:51:19.660 --> 02:51:23.080]  that is the bottleneck for them and that would be one of the ways that you could
[02:51:23.080 --> 02:51:26.740]  limit them to buy a little bit of time to try to get some control of the
[02:51:26.740 --> 02:51:32.820]  situation or structure to keep some of these things at bay but again to
[02:51:32.820 --> 02:51:38.380]  prohibit that at the federal level and that is in direct conflict with the
[02:51:38.380 --> 02:51:40.860]  10th Amendment and of course the Democrats will tell you that now
[02:51:40.860 --> 02:51:44.020]  because they're not in Bauer but as soon as they get in Bauer they don't care
[02:51:44.020 --> 02:51:50.020]  about the 10th Amendment either but it is really a real concern about this
[02:51:50.020 --> 02:51:55.980]  concentration of power and the you know the destruction of the 10th Amendment
[02:51:55.980 --> 02:51:59.500]  and of course the enforcement mechanism that is going to run through is going to
[02:51:59.500 --> 02:52:05.260]  be to use financial carrots and sticks for people coming out of the federal
[02:52:05.260 --> 02:52:07.620]  government that's the way they always get around the 10th Amendment isn't it?
[02:52:08.180 --> 02:52:13.180]  Absolutely correct yes the technocracy that's exactly what we call technocracy
[02:52:13.180 --> 02:52:18.020]  yes the techno bureaucrats that's what they use that technology as I call it
[02:52:18.020 --> 02:52:22.100]  digital prison that's basically where you're looking at yeah that's kind of where we're at
[02:52:22.100 --> 02:52:25.860]  and that's what they're setting up digital prison so you can't go anywhere
[02:52:25.860 --> 02:52:30.180]  to do anything within your 15-minute city whatever you want to be to monitor
[02:52:30.180 --> 02:52:34.500]  where you are. They're constantly coming up with different
[02:52:34.500 --> 02:52:39.100]  justifications to take us to the same kind of Orwellian hell that they want to
[02:52:39.100 --> 02:52:42.620]  set up and and that's why you know when you look at the Chinese communists
[02:52:42.620 --> 02:52:46.340]  many times I'd look at them and say okay so are they are they really communist
[02:52:46.340 --> 02:52:50.700]  anymore are they fascist because they've kind of merged economics and politics to
[02:52:50.700 --> 02:52:53.620]  a great extent there and it's highly nationalistic and all the rest of these
[02:52:53.620 --> 02:52:56.500]  other things so it's important to understand all these different strains
[02:52:56.500 --> 02:53:01.100]  but then to not get boxed in by any of them to understand these people mix and
[02:53:01.140 --> 02:53:06.180]  match they'll take whatever they can use made these different strategies and you
[02:53:06.180 --> 02:53:09.420]  know when you look at them if you were to construct a Venn diagram it seems
[02:53:09.420 --> 02:53:12.500]  like they're all starting to reach convergence instead of one little point
[02:53:12.500 --> 02:53:17.380]  of overlap doesn't it yeah exactly well you know communism is just a tool it's
[02:53:17.380 --> 02:53:21.820]  that's all it's a tool for global governance it's not to be all end all
[02:53:21.820 --> 02:53:25.700]  just like any other religious things that we see God it's got nothing to do
[02:53:25.700 --> 02:53:29.420]  with at all matter of fact the men who are globalists are not communists they're
[02:53:29.580 --> 02:53:33.460]  not that's a tool they're not fascist but they use that mentality but it's all
[02:53:33.460 --> 02:53:37.100]  the tool for world government it's all going to come through the United Nations
[02:53:37.100 --> 02:53:42.100]  and you see the UN well that's the center point of it all and we have a
[02:53:42.100 --> 02:53:47.620]  magazine called the new American and matter of fact we're actually launching
[02:53:47.620 --> 02:53:52.980]  it in there called a new European and I can show you this no good yeah Matt here
[02:53:52.980 --> 02:53:57.820]  David these little bubble diagrams I've you can see this all these are all the
[02:53:57.820 --> 02:54:02.140]  UN offices in the world they're not just one location and you know these
[02:54:02.140 --> 02:54:06.220]  river in Brussels yeah what are these people doing all these locations well
[02:54:06.220 --> 02:54:11.860]  you're on the menu that's what's going on imagine all those you know it's all
[02:54:11.860 --> 02:54:15.020]  over the United States so I'd be happy to send this to you in a new American
[02:54:15.020 --> 02:54:20.540]  magazine we have this one called the global power grab we did this one and it
[02:54:20.540 --> 02:54:25.220]  talks and I show this around the Australians and the New Zealand's and UK
[02:54:25.220 --> 02:54:29.940]  folks and and the lady in France they were totally amazed the depth of the
[02:54:29.940 --> 02:54:34.260]  United Nations all these offices all over the world yes and they're busy
[02:54:34.260 --> 02:54:39.740]  carving up the world for global governance so that's that's our part of
[02:54:39.740 --> 02:54:44.300]  our job of the birch site exposed what's happening through education and making
[02:54:44.300 --> 02:54:48.580]  the way it's not too late because it's more of us than them and they know that
[02:54:48.580 --> 02:54:53.180]  our job their job is to keep us off message and looking at sports figures or
[02:54:53.180 --> 02:54:59.060]  Hollywood or this or that the same time they're destroying our foundational
[02:54:59.060 --> 02:55:02.940]  principles of freedom no absolutely yeah I've had Alex Newman on many times I've
[02:55:02.940 --> 02:55:08.500]  talked to Alex and a great guy there at the New American and I've had other
[02:55:08.500 --> 02:55:12.620]  people as well from the American it's great publication and as you point out
[02:55:12.620 --> 02:55:17.060]  with that map and you see all the different areas where they have areas of
[02:55:17.060 --> 02:55:19.860]  responsibility and actual physical locations everything I think that's a
[02:55:19.860 --> 02:55:23.900]  key thing for people understand is that it's not necessarily going to be as you
[02:55:23.900 --> 02:55:26.900]  point out in Brussels when you say well there's the seat of government or
[02:55:26.900 --> 02:55:32.180]  whatever or the East River in New York it really is not so much about that it's
[02:55:32.180 --> 02:55:37.460]  about global governance it's about this network of different organizations that
[02:55:37.460 --> 02:55:41.460]  are out there and that's one of the things that I see about technocracy is
[02:55:41.460 --> 02:55:45.860]  really that not just you know the the electronic network networking that's out
[02:55:45.860 --> 02:55:49.460]  there but actually the political networking that is there and the
[02:55:49.460 --> 02:55:52.880]  interlocking of these different financial interests that are out there
[02:55:52.880 --> 02:55:57.900]  so they can all have their own goals and things but it is all pushing us towards
[02:55:57.900 --> 02:56:02.940]  this global governance and and the technology is really giving them power
[02:56:02.940 --> 02:56:07.700]  that they've never had before that's the key thing that's really concerning me so
[02:56:07.700 --> 02:56:13.380]  we saw that with COVID-19 was a good yes data said beta tests for them I had the
[02:56:13.420 --> 02:56:16.900]  whole world under control I'm sure they were absolutely laughing and amazed how
[02:56:16.900 --> 02:56:21.980]  easy it was I know I was absolutely astounded how easy it was for them as
[02:56:21.980 --> 02:56:26.100]  well and and again I think you know you look at the stimulus checks and all the
[02:56:26.100 --> 02:56:30.740]  rest of this stuff that was training wheels for universal basic income which
[02:56:30.740 --> 02:56:35.940]  was something that Elon Musk has always been focused on when you had Andrew Yang
[02:56:35.940 --> 02:56:39.220]  come out said he was going to run for president and that was going to be his
[02:56:39.220 --> 02:56:42.860]  issue the main issue he branched out and some other things later on but as soon as
[02:56:42.860 --> 02:56:46.260]  he came out and said universal basic income you know I must candid him a
[02:56:46.260 --> 02:56:50.180]  million dollars you know he wanted him to push that idea well it got pushed
[02:56:50.180 --> 02:56:55.860]  really big in 2020 that's all part of the that's all part of the program
[02:56:55.860 --> 02:56:59.660]  the universal income to the UN yeah of course it is yeah the whole job they
[02:56:59.660 --> 02:57:03.180]  they want you to be industrious they want you to be collective not
[02:57:03.180 --> 02:57:07.660]  individualists and we fight collectivism we believe in individualism not
[02:57:07.660 --> 02:57:11.660]  collectivism that's all part of the rule you know there's a call to herd
[02:57:11.660 --> 02:57:17.340]  mentality and that's exactly what they need to control us it's all that's the
[02:57:17.340 --> 02:57:20.900]  end game is that world government and they will determine as I mentioned I'm
[02:57:20.900 --> 02:57:25.020]  early on we started the show with George Bernard Shaw before the eugenics
[02:57:25.020 --> 02:57:29.820]  committee who lives and who dies and you may not have that choice if you're a
[02:57:29.820 --> 02:57:33.380]  strong crowd of Christian or belief you may not fit into because they're
[02:57:33.380 --> 02:57:37.180]  amoral they don't have any beliefs the state is their belief you may not fit
[02:57:37.180 --> 02:57:40.380]  into their program if you can't be indoctrinated correctly you may be
[02:57:40.500 --> 02:57:45.380]  exterminated that's right that's written about that so it's these guys wait for
[02:57:45.380 --> 02:57:50.900]  keeps and it's serious and our job has been to expose their plan since the late
[02:57:50.900 --> 02:57:55.740]  50s and really what they want to do and they're very open about it now more so
[02:57:55.740 --> 02:58:01.460]  than ever because they feel like men young adults have been so indoctrinated
[02:58:01.460 --> 02:58:05.340]  through the universities and school that socialism is good like we saw the the
[02:58:05.340 --> 02:58:09.780]  last mayor race in New York City and can you imagine yeah yeah it's nothing's
[02:58:09.780 --> 02:58:12.940]  free you know schools have indoctrinated that but then we also have
[02:58:12.940 --> 02:58:18.140]  the situation where the you know the Gen Z people are finding it very the kids
[02:58:18.140 --> 02:58:21.220]  are finding it very difficult to find a job even if they go to college they're
[02:58:21.220 --> 02:58:24.860]  finding it difficult to find a job and that is something I think that really
[02:58:24.860 --> 02:58:29.700]  drives this because again one of the things that socialism has always pushed
[02:58:29.700 --> 02:58:34.180]  out there I think is envy you know they find these different at its core I think
[02:58:34.180 --> 02:58:39.740]  like solinsky you know dedicated his book rules for radicals to Satan and I
[02:58:39.740 --> 02:58:44.420]  think at the core of it there's all these different satanic appeals to the
[02:58:44.420 --> 02:58:49.100]  evil aspects of our nature you know whether it's about greed whether it's
[02:58:49.100 --> 02:58:53.300]  about envy whether it's about hatred racism tribalism all these different
[02:58:53.300 --> 02:58:58.340]  things and they they identify these things and seek to exploit them with
[02:58:58.340 --> 02:59:02.940]  these different approaches that they take you know and so that's what I think
[02:59:02.940 --> 02:59:06.940]  is you have to be aware of the tactics and the strategies that are there if
[02:59:06.940 --> 02:59:09.820]  we're ever going to be able to defeat them otherwise we're just putting in
[02:59:09.820 --> 02:59:13.460]  their hands aren't we that's exactly and there's you're exactly correct that's
[02:59:13.460 --> 02:59:17.540]  exactly what they do they pit one group against another one philosophy because
[02:59:17.540 --> 02:59:21.340]  it's all about conflict mm-hmm it's all about the conflict that's
[02:59:21.340 --> 02:59:25.460]  critically important but we have to identify what it is and expose what it
[02:59:25.460 --> 02:59:29.300]  is that's really important so we know the game it's a charades you remember
[02:59:29.420 --> 02:59:35.820]  remember the the movie where we had with Julie Garland follow yellow big road you
[02:59:35.820 --> 02:59:38.420]  know and all of a sudden who's the man behind the curtain don't pay attention
[02:59:38.420 --> 02:59:43.620]  to him well we expose who's behind the curtain you know and that's really what
[02:59:43.620 --> 02:59:48.460]  it's all about it's really a plan it's not done by accident and we see a lot of
[02:59:48.460 --> 02:59:53.780]  Kubuki theater yeah but the thing is is that we identify really what it is and
[02:59:53.780 --> 02:59:58.380]  to tell you what it's very difficult for people to believe it because some of
[02:59:58.380 --> 03:00:02.540]  their heroes of the past who are not good people that's right I'm sorry folks
[03:00:02.540 --> 03:00:07.780]  or the heroes of the present I mentioned about George Bernard Shaw the guy was
[03:00:07.780 --> 03:00:11.460]  you know think about that one well I mean I can go on but there's a lot of
[03:00:11.460 --> 03:00:15.900]  them and they were not who they thought they were I mean so yeah he wrote
[03:00:15.900 --> 03:00:19.180]  Pygmalion which was then turned into My Fair Lady you know the musical in the
[03:00:19.180 --> 03:00:24.260]  play and you know we enjoy the music with that but yeah the guy who was there
[03:00:24.260 --> 03:00:27.900]  and even when you look at all these different science fiction novels they
[03:00:27.900 --> 03:00:31.260]  basically become a blueprint for them but we're talking about how they like
[03:00:31.260 --> 03:00:34.740]  to set up conflict between different groups that's why I think we really
[03:00:34.740 --> 03:00:39.900]  need to have our guard up about partisan politics because that is another way they
[03:00:39.900 --> 03:00:45.540]  do it they don't just do it by race or by sex or this or that they do it also
[03:00:45.540 --> 03:00:49.620]  with political factions and you know when people buy into these things and
[03:00:49.620 --> 03:00:53.460]  start to excuse the actions of their leaders what they really need to do is
[03:00:53.460 --> 03:00:58.340]  to look at the longer historical view and say where were the Fabian socialists
[03:00:58.340 --> 03:01:01.340]  trying to take us you know where were the Gramsci socialists trying to take
[03:01:01.340 --> 03:01:06.820]  us where were the Marxists trying to take us and if the actions of the person
[03:01:06.820 --> 03:01:12.580]  that's the hero of your party is going to move us in the direction of these
[03:01:12.580 --> 03:01:18.060]  socialists and Marxists they need to pull back and say we're not going to
[03:01:18.060 --> 03:01:21.860]  follow that even though that's part of our our tribe here or whatever I think
[03:01:21.860 --> 03:01:25.660]  that's very important thing you know elections change government but
[03:01:25.660 --> 03:01:29.700]  institutions you know change nations that's really important they actually
[03:01:29.700 --> 03:01:33.660]  Fabian's even said that they also said power shifts from representation to
[03:01:33.660 --> 03:01:37.940]  management and that's where we are no matter you know it's left or right you
[03:01:37.940 --> 03:01:42.340]  know on the politics scene the policy being set forward doesn't make a
[03:01:42.340 --> 03:01:47.220]  difference who runs back and forth it's all kabuki theater for us because they're
[03:01:47.220 --> 03:01:51.580]  not setting the policy someone else's and we identify who they are that's
[03:01:51.580 --> 03:01:56.140]  really critically important so it's all a big game in front of us but we have to
[03:01:56.140 --> 03:02:00.060]  identify really who they are what's happening and that's all part of what we
[03:02:00.060 --> 03:02:04.700]  do educate people and making aware there's more of us than them but our
[03:02:04.700 --> 03:02:07.980]  job is to wake people up and sometimes they don't want to they want to hear
[03:02:07.980 --> 03:02:11.300]  about it you know our job is to wake people up and tell them really what's
[03:02:11.300 --> 03:02:16.460]  going on much like the story gave to the UK folks about the Fabians I said they're
[03:02:16.460 --> 03:02:22.100]  destroying your country on plan it's not by accident that's why you know I
[03:02:22.100 --> 03:02:26.500]  question you so do they still have a Fabian society people belong to because
[03:02:26.500 --> 03:02:30.520]  typically these things are done in secret you know or quietly so you have
[03:02:30.520 --> 03:02:34.260]  secret societies you know things like the Masons or whatever but you know
[03:02:34.260 --> 03:02:38.300]  people will be members of this but I don't think do we have a Fabian society
[03:02:38.300 --> 03:02:42.140]  that you have politicians that are part of here in the US or is it mainly the
[03:02:42.140 --> 03:02:48.220]  CFR that you'll see mostly the CFR yeah yeah it's exactly what's it's a it's a
[03:02:48.220 --> 03:02:53.420]  it's more what's a partner of with the Fabian so back to Cecil Rhodes and Lord
[03:02:53.420 --> 03:02:57.740]  Milner and and you know Woodrow Wilson took command of house they had this
[03:02:57.740 --> 03:03:01.540]  thing called the inquiry back in the 1900s or so and they they formed this
[03:03:01.540 --> 03:03:05.500]  group and they want the United States and Council for Relations born in 1921
[03:03:05.500 --> 03:03:10.140]  and they're gonna set foreign policy up mark through to David Rockefeller and
[03:03:10.140 --> 03:03:13.780]  today you have members of the cabinet 40 50 percent of the people in
[03:03:13.780 --> 03:03:18.980]  presidential cabinets were part of the CFR I had Clinton Eisenhower all those
[03:03:18.980 --> 03:03:22.680]  guys were all involved in the CFR they knew exactly what was going on so they
[03:03:22.680 --> 03:03:27.340]  were tearing the water for the CFR policy group and that's exactly what goes
[03:03:27.340 --> 03:03:33.100]  on so was all it looked good you know but reality is one of the stories goes
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[03:05:11.380 --> 03:05:15.780]  details you know every every year every year of several years we have an
[03:05:15.780 --> 03:05:19.580]  election it's like when you're in high school you know the room a president of
[03:05:19.580 --> 03:05:25.500]  the student council remember those back in high school yeah yeah and by the way
[03:05:25.500 --> 03:05:29.860]  I'm gonna have longer lunch hours we're gonna have less homework right and all
[03:05:29.860 --> 03:05:32.860]  of a sudden they get elected and they're like who's running the show the
[03:05:32.860 --> 03:05:36.860]  superintendent principal high school they never happened and that's it sorry
[03:05:36.860 --> 03:05:40.500]  with the CFR we have a beauty contest which is a public you know either
[03:05:40.500 --> 03:05:44.860]  presidential election or congressional and then who's running a show behind
[03:05:44.860 --> 03:05:49.500]  the scenes it's really it's really those groups those unelected bureaucratic
[03:05:49.500 --> 03:05:53.900]  officials are unelected divide and we expose what they are we have that book
[03:05:53.900 --> 03:05:59.620]  called the shadows of power another book that we published years ago called the
[03:05:59.620 --> 03:06:06.700]  shadows of power exposes the council on foreign relations war one or two Korean
[03:06:06.700 --> 03:06:11.860]  Vietnam how they all morphed into all part of the plan that's called the
[03:06:11.860 --> 03:06:15.460]  shadows of power so we know we did so the Fabians is freeways about the
[03:06:15.460 --> 03:06:19.900]  Fabians the shadows of power is about the council on foreign relations and
[03:06:19.900 --> 03:06:23.700]  once people look at history they get pretty angry because they know it's all
[03:06:23.700 --> 03:06:28.980]  been a theater for not for us but for for them yeah and they play the game to
[03:06:28.980 --> 03:06:32.060]  make it look like you're running the show but you're not you're just a victim
[03:06:32.060 --> 03:06:37.020]  of the globalist plan I agree and I when I think of the John Birch Society you
[03:06:37.020 --> 03:06:41.060]  guys have done a great job of educating people about the council on foreign
[03:06:41.060 --> 03:06:46.020]  relations the CFR stuff and yet we still have these people run for office and I
[03:06:46.020 --> 03:06:51.580]  think you'll see them proudly list that as part of their CV you know that yeah
[03:06:51.580 --> 03:06:56.940]  member of the council on foreign relations and it surprises me it's like
[03:06:56.980 --> 03:07:03.300]  I'm part of this satanic group over here they see it as a you know because it
[03:07:03.300 --> 03:07:09.940]  really does have a lot of panache or whatever or clout in Washington to be a
[03:07:09.940 --> 03:07:15.300]  member of that club and they're proud of it and we need to call them out on it we
[03:07:15.300 --> 03:07:20.100]  need to understand the history of it we need to understand really just how evil
[03:07:20.100 --> 03:07:23.900]  the actions have been and how that has really been there so I guess in the UK
[03:07:23.900 --> 03:07:28.140]  they still have people who are part of the Fabian Society but here you'll see
[03:07:28.140 --> 03:07:32.100]  it in the CFR and they'll be doing the same type of thing. Yeah Bill Clinton was
[03:07:32.100 --> 03:07:36.140]  a member, Martin Albrey was a member, Robert Rubin was a member, Ben Cohen,
[03:07:36.140 --> 03:07:41.460]  Larry Summers, George W Bush was, Gohna Leah Rice, Colin Power, Robert Gates, Henry
[03:07:41.460 --> 03:07:45.220]  Paulson, Burke Obama was president, described a candidate, Timmy Gaither,
[03:07:45.220 --> 03:07:51.060]  Susan Rice you know, John Bolton, Henry McMaster, Mike Pompeo, Ido Guayon, you
[03:07:51.100 --> 03:07:55.740]  see what's going on here? So they're there in strategic locations to to
[03:07:55.740 --> 03:08:01.220]  monitor and steer public policy that's what it's going on so when you see this
[03:08:01.220 --> 03:08:05.700]  we hear the song Garza was Democrat Republican you get to the same place all
[03:08:05.700 --> 03:08:10.420]  the time that's the key. And I remember when Reagan got elected people were
[03:08:10.420 --> 03:08:14.540]  excited oh look he's not CFR you know and I can't remember last time we had a
[03:08:14.540 --> 03:08:18.820]  president there wasn't CFR and yet what he did was he put CFR people in all the
[03:08:18.820 --> 03:08:23.260]  different positions around him you know. Yes exactly well Trump is not a member of
[03:08:23.260 --> 03:08:26.580]  the CFR I can tell you that so he's not a member but he's got people around to
[03:08:26.580 --> 03:08:31.180]  make sure he doesn't get too far off the script although he does. That's right
[03:08:31.180 --> 03:08:35.820]  yeah I think what Trump is really as much as anything it's the technocracy
[03:08:35.820 --> 03:08:40.180]  because these guys are writing the checks there. I'm very concerned that you
[03:08:40.180 --> 03:08:47.620]  know we all know now what the CVDC is and yet I think the same thing can
[03:08:47.620 --> 03:08:51.900]  be accomplished with a stable coin and they can make a lot of money putting the
[03:08:51.900 --> 03:08:56.300]  stable coin out there at the same time so it's one way they can get rich they
[03:08:56.300 --> 03:09:00.100]  can get rich off of that or they can't get rich off of the CVDC and since
[03:09:00.100 --> 03:09:04.140]  everybody's kind of wise to the game of the CVDC they don't realize that stable
[03:09:04.140 --> 03:09:07.980]  coin is still going to have those capabilities to be able to turn off your
[03:09:07.980 --> 03:09:12.740]  ability to trade and do other things like that. Tell us a little bit about the
[03:09:12.740 --> 03:09:16.740]  John Burs society I mean I know you guys have had a lot of fights and that have
[03:09:16.740 --> 03:09:20.420]  you been hit with any kind of debanking or stuff like that because I mean I have
[03:09:20.420 --> 03:09:25.420]  and I've been kicked off of PayPal and Venmo and other other formats like that
[03:09:25.420 --> 03:09:30.740]  because of things that I was saying in 2020 about the lockdown and the pandemic
[03:09:30.740 --> 03:09:34.820]  and the vaccine climate change and all the rest of stuff. Are you seeing that
[03:09:34.820 --> 03:09:40.220]  kind of debanking and deplatforming in various places? Yeah well sometimes we
[03:09:40.220 --> 03:09:45.820]  say that we get to too much of truth that YouTube will take us down for a
[03:09:45.860 --> 03:09:50.060]  while or something like that and then we'll come back on again. You know we
[03:09:50.060 --> 03:09:54.380]  don't have that issue with banking per say but they ignore us because they
[03:09:54.380 --> 03:09:58.300]  don't need attention. We get attacked you know we start to grow so they try to
[03:09:58.300 --> 03:10:02.100]  pretend we don't exist any longer. Yeah that's when I first learned of the John
[03:10:02.100 --> 03:10:08.940]  Burs society was when William F. Buckley was on a tear. I think I agree with these
[03:10:08.940 --> 03:10:18.380]  guys and I'm with Buckley so. He's a CFR member by the way. Probably CIA as well.
[03:10:18.380 --> 03:10:22.380]  Cullen Bones you know from Yale you know I can go on. He was a good guy right? Yeah sure.
[03:10:22.380 --> 03:10:26.820]  You know his organization exists today. Don't listen to those guys over there.
[03:10:26.820 --> 03:10:32.420]  Yeah okay. That's why he was a good guy. That's why NPR had him on. That's right.
[03:10:32.420 --> 03:10:37.020]  Yeah right. We wrote a book about that called the Pied Piper of the
[03:10:37.020 --> 03:10:41.220]  Establishment. We wrote that book. Jack McMaster our past president. You may have
[03:10:41.220 --> 03:10:44.980]  known him. He wrote the book about Buckley and he was you know he was all
[03:10:44.980 --> 03:10:49.840]  put together to make sure that he steers the the conservative movement their
[03:10:49.840 --> 03:10:53.980]  direction of the CFR in which he was a member of the CFR. So you know it's like
[03:10:53.980 --> 03:10:58.140]  you know as they said it's not matter who it's all controlled you know it's
[03:10:58.140 --> 03:11:01.900]  and he was control opposition. He's a very poster child for that isn't he?
[03:11:01.900 --> 03:11:05.820]  Absolutely correct and people still hold him up as he was some you know
[03:11:05.820 --> 03:11:10.020]  super conservative he was. I remember you know Rush Limbaugh really
[03:11:10.020 --> 03:11:15.980]  analyzed him. You don't realize who this guy is that that's kind of telling
[03:11:15.980 --> 03:11:22.580]  but anyway it's a it really is a great organization and really do appreciate
[03:11:22.580 --> 03:11:29.940]  what you guys do and again the the the quiet ideology reshaping policy from
[03:11:29.940 --> 03:11:34.980]  London parlors to DC power. Is that a book or is that an article because that's
[03:11:35.020 --> 03:11:40.860]  how I found out about about you. It sounds like the Fabian Freeway that's what it
[03:11:40.860 --> 03:11:44.100]  sounds like. Okay that's the subtitle of Fabian Freeway.
[03:11:44.100 --> 03:11:49.540]  The JBS has been around for a long time we have area chapters we educate people on the
[03:11:49.540 --> 03:11:54.060]  voting record of their representatives and so we try to encourage people to be
[03:11:54.060 --> 03:11:59.660]  active participants in the process. How do you change your representative David
[03:11:59.660 --> 03:12:02.820]  is if you don't understand the Constitution or at least go visit them
[03:12:02.820 --> 03:12:06.420]  say why did you vote unconstitutionally? So we have this thing called the score
[03:12:06.420 --> 03:12:10.860]  card we print it out every quarter and it talks about the voting record
[03:12:10.860 --> 03:12:14.900]  constitutionally we picked them on Congress you know Senate as well as the
[03:12:14.900 --> 03:12:19.300]  House where they are so people know if they're voting in Constitution or not and
[03:12:19.300 --> 03:12:24.420]  it's our personal responsibility as Americans to uphold remember that their
[03:12:24.420 --> 03:12:28.900]  representatives work for us and say hey why are you voting in this way and
[03:12:29.100 --> 03:12:32.420]  would they have not I mean representative called me said no one
[03:12:32.420 --> 03:12:39.340]  ever very rarely calls me on the phone and talks about anything yeah and so we
[03:12:39.340 --> 03:12:42.580]  can't it's not you know we can't sit back and I said and one day we have a
[03:12:42.580 --> 03:12:47.300]  handsome young conservative show up in Congress it doesn't happen that way yeah
[03:12:47.300 --> 03:12:54.380]  so my biggest goal is to fight complacency in Americans and its life is
[03:12:54.380 --> 03:12:58.700]  too good and even though the economics today is hurting them now they're
[03:12:58.700 --> 03:13:03.380]  listening but life is too good and they have to you know we have to get behind
[03:13:03.380 --> 03:13:08.820]  and spend a little time protecting our sovereignty and our freedoms but we have
[03:13:08.820 --> 03:13:12.780]  to know who we are first and that's what we're trying to teach Americanist
[03:13:12.780 --> 03:13:16.580]  principles and hold up representatives who work for us to make sure that
[03:13:16.580 --> 03:13:20.820]  happens I agree yeah and that's what I liked about the John Bush Society was
[03:13:20.820 --> 03:13:26.520]  the focus on local activism as well and you know what is happening locally in
[03:13:26.520 --> 03:13:30.520]  your state as well and I've seen what you're talking about in terms of
[03:13:30.520 --> 03:13:34.760]  representatives who say nobody ever calls me I saw the power of that and I've
[03:13:34.760 --> 03:13:39.240]  talked hey it's Ben Ferguson and I want to be honest with you for a second about
[03:13:39.240 --> 03:13:44.280]  how an act of compassion really feels a couple of years ago I made the choice to
[03:13:44.280 --> 03:13:49.160]  partner with an amazing organization called Compassion International why
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[03:15:31.040 --> 03:15:34.120]  unions decided that they were going to shut down homeschooling and it looked
[03:15:34.120 --> 03:15:39.120]  like they were going to be able to do it because it was all Democrats and an
[03:15:39.120 --> 03:15:44.160]  active minority of homeschoolers which was really small at the time there wasn't
[03:15:44.160 --> 03:15:48.280]  a lot of people homeschooling there's so many more who are doing it today but
[03:15:48.280 --> 03:15:52.120]  everybody got actively involved and started writing and it made them look so
[03:15:52.120 --> 03:15:56.960]  much bigger than they actually were and actually beat down the teachers unions
[03:15:56.960 --> 03:16:01.880]  in a Democrat state that were going to try to regulate homeschooling out of
[03:16:01.880 --> 03:16:07.200]  existence and so that is a was a very important first-hand lesson to learn but
[03:16:07.200 --> 03:16:09.560]  it's difficult to get people to do that and that's one of the things that John
[03:16:10.080 --> 03:16:14.800]  Society does I think is excellent which is to educate each other about what is
[03:16:14.800 --> 03:16:19.760]  happening locally within your state and and how you can take action at a local
[03:16:19.760 --> 03:16:25.600]  level I remember my probably my earliest memory of the John Birch Society was to
[03:16:25.600 --> 03:16:29.680]  support your local sheriff stuff being concerned about the federalization and
[03:16:29.680 --> 03:16:36.080]  of the police and that is something that is now really escalating isn't it yeah
[03:16:36.120 --> 03:16:39.600]  yeah we actually have a we have that group it still exists called support your
[03:16:39.600 --> 03:16:43.040]  local police with we want to keep them independent I've federalized we have a
[03:16:43.040 --> 03:16:46.880]  group we have an affiliate not-for-profit called support your local
[03:16:46.880 --> 03:16:51.840]  police and we also have a you mentioned school with the homeschool we've been
[03:16:51.840 --> 03:16:56.520]  existing for 15 years called the Freedom Project Academy it goes from kindergarten
[03:16:56.520 --> 03:17:02.600]  to high school we have live we you know education of course online or you can buy
[03:17:02.640 --> 03:17:08.000]  recorded version of it and that's been around so we're educating all over the
[03:17:08.000 --> 03:17:14.000]  world adults are having their children sign up to learn really Americanism we
[03:17:14.000 --> 03:17:21.560]  are not fabricated history and we teach you how to kids how to write cursive and
[03:17:21.560 --> 03:17:26.640]  do math or read books how about that for a change and so we yeah it hasn't
[03:17:26.640 --> 03:17:29.560]  happened in a public school I can tell you that and we spent more time in
[03:17:29.560 --> 03:17:34.320]  education than your social emotional learning but the thing is in it goes you
[03:17:34.320 --> 03:17:37.520]  mentioned Allison we're a lot of books about that but the thing is is that so
[03:17:37.520 --> 03:17:42.040]  we look at education where our children our adults bring the bring it to view
[03:17:42.040 --> 03:17:46.880]  really who we are what we're all about because we've been indoctrinated and we
[03:17:46.880 --> 03:17:51.000]  know the brainwashing has existed through all the mass media David all the
[03:17:51.000 --> 03:17:54.640]  mass media as you know very well because you're in the media business that's all
[03:17:54.640 --> 03:17:57.720]  control about a council on foreign relations every one of those your time
[03:17:58.080 --> 03:18:02.200]  networks including Fox it's all controlled media and they all say the
[03:18:02.200 --> 03:18:07.040]  same thing same deal so guess what that's the only thing you hear that's
[03:18:07.040 --> 03:18:11.520]  the only thing you believe so we said no timeout let's talk about reality here
[03:18:11.520 --> 03:18:16.920]  and it's hard for some people to swallow but once you've been red-pilled all of
[03:18:16.920 --> 03:18:21.120]  a sudden the world changes like now I see what's going on here so all right
[03:18:21.120 --> 03:18:24.840]  that's our job in the birch aside we did with kids with school you're right about
[03:18:24.840 --> 03:18:28.360]  the law enforcement want to keep them independent we teach the Constitution we
[03:18:28.360 --> 03:18:32.960]  get people involved it's about education get people activated and evolved that's
[03:18:32.960 --> 03:18:37.040]  really important I absolutely agree get activated evolve and that's how we save
[03:18:37.040 --> 03:18:41.480]  our country as well as the people over in England they see the problem now
[03:18:41.480 --> 03:18:46.080]  because they're watching their country be destroyed and I mentioned the Fabians
[03:18:46.080 --> 03:18:50.480]  we first came on because that's coming to tractions for the United States what
[03:18:50.520 --> 03:18:55.240]  you see in Europe is coming to tractions for here oh yeah just a little bit yeah
[03:18:55.240 --> 03:18:59.640]  it's a warning yeah that's right yeah and and so you know getting back to the
[03:18:59.640 --> 03:19:03.040]  the federalization of the police you know we look at these things and we say
[03:19:03.040 --> 03:19:08.360]  okay even if you like the guy who's doing it and even if you agree with the
[03:19:08.360 --> 03:19:12.680]  stated goal you have to look at this and say yeah but that policy is going to
[03:19:12.680 --> 03:19:17.360]  establish a precedent of the federalization of law enforcement and so I
[03:19:17.400 --> 03:19:22.400]  know where that leads right so we pull this back okay so let's let's walk this
[03:19:22.400 --> 03:19:27.440]  back and and we have to oppose this even if we agree with the stated purpose
[03:19:27.440 --> 03:19:33.720]  that's the wrong way to do it and it is so important that we not sacrifice the
[03:19:33.720 --> 03:19:40.120]  that the you know that the means does not it's not just that the end is not
[03:19:40.120 --> 03:19:44.080]  just by the means that's how these people always get us there and and it's
[03:19:44.080 --> 03:19:47.800]  understanding those principles and what America is about understanding the
[03:19:47.800 --> 03:19:51.720]  Constitution and what that's about and why those things are there those
[03:19:51.720 --> 03:19:56.520]  important safeguards against tyranny and understand that if we wipe those things
[03:19:56.520 --> 03:20:00.840]  away because it's going to make it more expedient for us to achieve this
[03:20:00.840 --> 03:20:05.800]  particular policy goal we are going to pay the price the longer than we
[03:20:05.800 --> 03:20:10.320]  nationalized police force is one of Marx's when Karl Marx's plan and so
[03:20:10.320 --> 03:20:14.760]  that's what we're trying to avoid keep them local and independent your sheriff
[03:20:14.760 --> 03:20:18.960]  is a very important person in your county very important person and I was
[03:20:18.960 --> 03:20:23.680]  I encourage people to know who the sheriff is and talk to them and making
[03:20:23.680 --> 03:20:27.400]  sure that you understand and they understand about America's principles in
[03:20:27.400 --> 03:20:31.440]  our rights and they have you have to know who the sheriff is so they know
[03:20:31.440 --> 03:20:34.160]  who you are much like your legislators and state
[03:20:34.160 --> 03:20:39.360]  legislator you know go back to our basics of our country our United States where
[03:20:39.360 --> 03:20:44.920]  form is independent states sovereign states over a period of time David that
[03:20:44.920 --> 03:20:49.080]  we've given the states have given power from themselves to the federal
[03:20:49.080 --> 03:20:52.360]  government that's not the way it was supposed to operate yeah the government
[03:20:52.360 --> 03:20:56.960]  supposed to defend us against public and domestic enemies you know and that's
[03:20:56.960 --> 03:21:00.760]  very limited powers look at article one section of the Constitution very limited
[03:21:00.760 --> 03:21:05.440]  powers Congress has right and government and so we have actually given more power
[03:21:05.440 --> 03:21:09.400]  to the federal government why it's all upside-side and distorted distorted
[03:21:09.400 --> 03:21:13.440]  today so we spend time with our local legislators in each state to make sure
[03:21:13.440 --> 03:21:17.240]  they would hold the constitutional responsibility each state has a
[03:21:17.240 --> 03:21:22.120]  Constitution the word democracy does not exist it's always a republic that's all
[03:21:22.120 --> 03:21:25.560]  nothing we teach people that word does not appear in our Constitution or any
[03:21:25.560 --> 03:21:29.440]  state Constitution and people don't even know that and I said you have to
[03:21:29.440 --> 03:21:34.480]  understand states are sovereign make sure you make this is where it begins so
[03:21:34.520 --> 03:21:39.400]  if you look at our history it was done with that phenomenal idea that keep them
[03:21:39.400 --> 03:21:43.680]  sovereign independent states so those basic things I just said to you most
[03:21:43.680 --> 03:21:49.120]  Americans I talked to do not understand that yeah that's right absolutely do not
[03:21:49.120 --> 03:21:55.200]  and and it's so important that we do we understand a foundation of principles
[03:21:55.200 --> 03:21:59.240]  and why these things were set up the way they were actually is a good plan you
[03:21:59.240 --> 03:22:03.200]  know even though the Constitution has been completely violated it's still a
[03:22:03.240 --> 03:22:07.840]  good plan and we should try it someday in our lifetime I think it's like the
[03:22:07.840 --> 03:22:10.960]  Ten Commandments is not the ten suggestions you know that's right that's
[03:22:10.960 --> 03:22:14.600]  right and they all the Constitution you have to know it before you can hold it
[03:22:14.600 --> 03:22:19.040]  you know and everybody pretty much whether they're local or state or
[03:22:19.040 --> 03:22:23.440]  especially federal they take an oath to the Constitution as a requirement of
[03:22:23.440 --> 03:22:27.480]  their authority and so when they violate that they no longer have any
[03:22:27.480 --> 03:22:31.200]  legitimate authority but they do have a lot of power and so we need to
[03:22:31.200 --> 03:22:33.960]  understand that we can have power collectively and that's one of the
[03:22:33.960 --> 03:22:37.840]  things I think the John Birch Society does bring to the table thank you so
[03:22:37.840 --> 03:22:41.880]  much for joining us it's been a fascinating discussion mr. Morrow Wayne
[03:22:41.880 --> 03:22:47.160]  Morrow thank you Wayne Morrow the CEO of the John Birch Society always great
[03:22:47.160 --> 03:22:50.000]  talking to you guys we're gonna make a quick break folks and we'll be right
[03:22:50.000 --> 03:22:53.360]  back we'll talk a little bit about what's going on with cars here in just a
[03:22:53.360 --> 03:22:57.480]  second so we'll be right back stay with us
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[03:26:59.800 --> 03:27:04.320]  welcome back folks we got a lot of comments and Jersey boy thank you so
[03:27:04.320 --> 03:27:07.320]  much for the support he says can you please ask if he was ever heard of
[03:27:07.320 --> 03:27:10.840]  William Cooper who wrote behold a pale horse I'm sorry I didn't see that comment
[03:27:10.840 --> 03:27:15.880]  any time I'm sorry and does he know about Jimmy from Brooklyn who JBS
[03:27:15.880 --> 03:27:21.040]  interviewed who I'm trying to get on your show okay well yeah I'm sorry I
[03:27:21.040 --> 03:27:26.240]  missed that very sorry yes apologies mm-hmm Owen 61 thank you so much for the
[03:27:26.240 --> 03:27:30.080]  support he just says thank you well thank you Owen appreciate it yes thank
[03:27:30.080 --> 03:27:33.640]  you so much and Jersey boy again says I remember a few years ago from JBS an
[03:27:33.640 --> 03:27:39.040]  email history of and I need to history of Republicans it was started by a
[03:27:39.040 --> 03:27:43.640]  communist does he know what it was and what does he think of JFK you know it's
[03:27:43.640 --> 03:27:50.960]  interesting a book I really enjoyed was an alternative history book by Harry
[03:27:50.960 --> 03:27:55.560]  Turledove he's written a lot of alternative history books and this one
[03:27:55.560 --> 03:28:01.320]  was about the Civil War is called how few remain and in it you know you may
[03:28:01.320 --> 03:28:08.960]  know the history that in Tidum as bloody as a battle was nearly was it
[03:28:08.960 --> 03:28:13.640]  could have been a victory for the South except that when the couriers dropped
[03:28:13.640 --> 03:28:19.560]  the orders that he was carrying and they fell into the Union's hands and so in
[03:28:19.560 --> 03:28:23.880]  his book guys say hey you dropped those orders better pick those up can you
[03:28:23.880 --> 03:28:28.320]  imagine what would happen if the other guys got that right and so that causes
[03:28:28.320 --> 03:28:34.400]  an early end to the war and pretty much all the major figures of both North and
[03:28:34.400 --> 03:28:41.640]  South survive and the causes early into the war and the South to gain its
[03:28:41.640 --> 03:28:48.400]  independence and in the in his alternative history Lincoln is entirely
[03:28:48.400 --> 03:28:53.920]  discredited because he lost the war but then he makes a comeback as this book is
[03:28:53.920 --> 03:28:58.000]  picking up a couple of decades on at that point in time I think he's got
[03:28:58.000 --> 03:29:03.280]  Stonewall Jackson as the as a president of the Confederacy and Lincoln makes a
[03:29:03.280 --> 03:29:08.040]  political comeback as head of the Socialist Party and that's one of the
[03:29:08.040 --> 03:29:10.200]  things that made that book so interesting was you really did
[03:29:10.200 --> 03:29:16.520]  understand these people what motivated them and the things behind them and so
[03:29:16.520 --> 03:29:22.280]  yeah there was an early connection with that and if you look at always think
[03:29:22.280 --> 03:29:25.680]  about the Pledge of Allegiance that was put in by the Grand Army the Republic
[03:29:25.680 --> 03:29:31.040]  mostly veterans especially if they were well known or successful played an
[03:29:31.040 --> 03:29:36.000]  important part in the war they got very big positions in the subsequent
[03:29:36.000 --> 03:29:39.920]  governments that were there and the Grand Army the Republic which was the
[03:29:39.920 --> 03:29:45.440]  organization of Civil War veterans for the North had a tremendous amount of
[03:29:45.440 --> 03:29:49.360]  influence they were the ones who instituted the Pledge of Allegiance and
[03:29:49.360 --> 03:29:55.400]  it initially did not have under God in it until the mid 1950s and so the emphasis
[03:29:55.400 --> 03:30:01.640]  was on one nation indivisible and that you know very harsh with that and the
[03:30:01.640 --> 03:30:08.480]  it was the pledge was done with one arms extended out palm down just like the
[03:30:08.480 --> 03:30:13.920]  Nazi salute they changed it to hand over your heart because the Nazi salute but
[03:30:13.920 --> 03:30:20.560]  yeah socialism and a lot of other things were were there and the as well as the
[03:30:20.560 --> 03:30:24.560]  concentration of power and really talking about the destruction of the
[03:30:24.560 --> 03:30:28.680]  states as sovereign entities and the understanding that the states had
[03:30:28.680 --> 03:30:33.080]  created the federal government all that stuff disappeared with Civil War go
[03:30:33.080 --> 03:30:41.520]  ahead we have usernames 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 AI will be kosher and DEI
[03:30:41.560 --> 03:30:46.360]  Nibiru 2029 says we have the best government money can buy and that's a
[03:30:46.360 --> 03:30:52.480]  quote from Mark Twain mm-hmm and they spend more and more every single day
[03:30:52.480 --> 03:30:59.240]  Pezzanovante 1776 ask the guest his take on war Gaza Trump's anti-semitism czar
[03:30:59.240 --> 03:31:03.200]  and the Heritage Foundation's project I apologize I didn't see that yes the
[03:31:03.200 --> 03:31:09.400]  conversation was too good goldsmith says curiously people often claim Marx was
[03:31:09.400 --> 03:31:13.000]  focused solely on economics but his entire worldview was cultural based on
[03:31:13.000 --> 03:31:18.840]  envy and hate yeah conflict yeah they go in dialectic that's why you know we can
[03:31:18.840 --> 03:31:22.480]  we have to look at the different ways that they divide us you know it was very
[03:31:22.480 --> 03:31:27.800]  explicit what Bill Ayers and Bernie Dorn the weather weatherman wanted to do they
[03:31:27.800 --> 03:31:33.480]  wouldn't have a race war Marx focused the thing about economics was there but
[03:31:33.480 --> 03:31:39.900]  that was really a class struggle right and the economics was a part of that
[03:31:39.900 --> 03:31:44.960]  class struggle and but it's always about dividing us and that's why I said you
[03:31:44.960 --> 03:31:48.920]  know it's a very careful about the Republican versus Democrat thing any
[03:31:48.920 --> 03:31:53.880]  kind of division that they can use like that and when we attach ourselves to a
[03:31:53.880 --> 03:31:59.160]  different ethnic group or different political group these different types of
[03:31:59.160 --> 03:32:03.480]  things those attachments draws away from the principles that can be the
[03:32:03.480 --> 03:32:08.840]  bulwark against this kind of socialist hell that they want to put us in yeah
[03:32:08.840 --> 03:32:13.360]  and mama see 1996 as I never learned so much as when I was homeschooling my
[03:32:13.360 --> 03:32:18.640]  kids that's right that's right that's excellent and that that was the thing
[03:32:18.640 --> 03:32:22.000]  that really missed about it that was that was where I put all of my effort
[03:32:22.000 --> 03:32:27.320]  before I had the show as a matter of fact that was at one point it was kind
[03:32:27.360 --> 03:32:31.940]  of bothering me because I was filling in for Alex at the very beginning he said
[03:32:31.940 --> 03:32:34.400]  you know there's gonna be millions of people listening to you I said don't
[03:32:34.400 --> 03:32:41.040]  tell me that right now but because I was not very much into public speaking or
[03:32:41.040 --> 03:32:45.020]  anything like that and I said no the way I think of this and that was in his
[03:32:45.020 --> 03:32:49.000]  original studio which was really small and intimate I said the way I think of
[03:32:49.000 --> 03:32:52.560]  this is I'm talking to the guys over there running the board I could see them
[03:32:52.560 --> 03:32:56.440]  and I said I'm just thinking like I'm doing homeschooling with my kids so I
[03:32:56.440 --> 03:33:00.480]  said don't talk to me about millions of people listening to that'll freeze me
[03:33:00.480 --> 03:33:04.840]  up so that's the way I always looked at it and it was such a wonderful thing
[03:33:04.840 --> 03:33:10.760]  because it gave us an opportunity to go back and look at content that was
[03:33:10.760 --> 03:33:18.000]  compelled on us in the schools and to to view it in a different way and that's
[03:33:18.000 --> 03:33:22.640]  one of the things I've always said about biology and evolution you know when it's
[03:33:22.640 --> 03:33:26.640]  taught to us in the schools it was always dumbed down into skeletons and
[03:33:26.640 --> 03:33:33.840]  death right for the evolutionists death is the thing the engine of creation for
[03:33:33.840 --> 03:33:39.240]  us it is the giver of life and we didn't look at comparative anatomy of
[03:33:39.240 --> 03:33:44.680]  skeletons we looked at the unique design of each and every animal and that was a
[03:33:44.680 --> 03:33:48.880]  thing that was so fascinating so it really is a blessing and an opportunity
[03:33:48.880 --> 03:33:51.960]  I hope if you have the opportunity you take that to homeschool your kids have a
[03:33:51.960 --> 03:33:55.760]  good day thank you take a photo on a phone there is machine learning in the
[03:33:55.760 --> 03:34:00.280]  background highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone in the metaverse
[03:34:00.280 --> 03:34:05.160]  we're going to need AI that is builder on helping people navigate virtual worlds
[03:34:05.160 --> 03:34:09.960]  as well as our physical world with augmented reality augmented reality is a
[03:34:09.960 --> 03:34:15.160]  profound technology includes like your position in 3d space your your body
[03:34:15.160 --> 03:34:21.280]  language facial gestures and we invented new intimate ways to connect and
[03:34:21.320 --> 03:34:26.840]  communicate directly from your wrist everything from virtual reality to
[03:34:26.840 --> 03:34:30.840]  designing our own data centers describing what's coming even it's just
[03:34:30.840 --> 03:34:34.440]  so different and new I've been in this infrastructure business for three
[03:34:34.440 --> 03:34:39.880]  decades no one has ever seen it now I expect that these trends will only
[03:34:39.880 --> 03:34:44.480]  increase in the future in the last few months we launched voice and vision
[03:34:44.480 --> 03:34:50.560]  capabilities so that chat GPT can now see hear and speak
[03:34:52.280 --> 03:34:56.680]  reports up to a hundred and twenty eight thousand tokens of context that's three
[03:34:56.680 --> 03:35:02.560]  hundred pages of a standard book that's all AI generated actually let's add in
[03:35:02.560 --> 03:35:05.960]  some alto cumulus clouds
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