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[01:58.000 --> 02:09.200] All right, welcome back, and joining us now is Wayne Morrow.
[02:09.200 --> 02:12.300] He is the CEO of the John Birch Society,
[02:12.300 --> 02:17.100] and he's got something I think is very interesting to talk about,
[02:17.100 --> 02:20.100] and that is Fabian Socialism.
[02:20.100 --> 02:22.500] You probably heard this term before,
[02:22.500 --> 02:25.700] but maybe you don't understand what it is or the difference between it
[02:25.800 --> 02:31.800] and Karl Marx's approach, and how much more dangerous it is.
[02:31.800 --> 02:36.500] You know, for me growing up, Fabian was a teen idol,
[02:36.500 --> 02:39.900] and I saw Fabian Socialism, I was like, what is that, you know?
[02:39.900 --> 02:43.000] But actually he was a famous Roman general,
[02:43.000 --> 02:49.000] and I guess Fabian's parents were Italian,
[02:49.000 --> 02:50.700] and I guess maybe that was the namesake,
[02:50.700 --> 02:53.700] or they might have been socialists, I don't know.
[02:53.700 --> 02:58.300] But anyway, it is important to understand the distinction,
[02:58.300 --> 03:01.500] because they have very different tactics that they use
[03:01.500 --> 03:04.100] to achieve the same totalitarian goals.
[03:04.100 --> 03:07.600] So joining us now is Wayne Morrow, CEO of the John Birch Society.
[03:07.600 --> 03:09.100] Thank you for joining us, sir.
[03:09.100 --> 03:11.000] Thank you, David. Appreciate being here.
[03:11.000 --> 03:16.300] And yeah, Fabian's much like the Council on Foreign Relations,
[03:16.300 --> 03:20.000] very little known about people in their respective countries.
[03:20.000 --> 03:22.600] It's sort of that secretive behind-the-scenes group.
[03:22.600 --> 03:24.900] You know, that's part of the plan, you know?
[03:24.900 --> 03:27.500] And you mentioned, you told me just as we were talking here,
[03:27.500 --> 03:29.000] just before you came on,
[03:29.000 --> 03:31.900] there is also a book that the John Birch Society sells
[03:31.900 --> 03:33.800] called The Fabian Freeway.
[03:33.800 --> 03:34.600] Yes, exactly.
[03:34.600 --> 03:36.800] A very in-depth book, yeah.
[03:36.800 --> 03:40.500] Yeah, it's a book we've written past and we republished it.
[03:40.500 --> 03:43.400] We have our own publishing company called The Western Islands,
[03:43.400 --> 03:47.600] and The Fabian Freeway is a book about the genesis of the Fabians,
[03:47.600 --> 03:51.400] and how it impacted even our U.S. policies and our foreign policies.
[03:51.500 --> 03:54.200] It all ties together, but it's a real good book,
[03:54.200 --> 03:57.900] and it's over about 600 pages, so it's not a quick read,
[03:57.900 --> 03:59.500] but it's in-depth,
[03:59.500 --> 04:03.300] and I think it's for people who are serious students about history,
[04:03.300 --> 04:04.500] and what goes on today.
[04:04.500 --> 04:07.900] Surely, I call it we're the top of the puzzle box, you know?
[04:07.900 --> 04:09.400] Now we understand what goes on.
[04:09.400 --> 04:11.100] That's right, that's right.
[04:11.100 --> 04:13.600] But tell us a little bit about us, about Fabian socialism.
[04:13.600 --> 04:16.800] You know, what was it about that general that they liked,
[04:16.800 --> 04:19.900] and how does that tell us about their tactics,
[04:19.900 --> 04:22.400] and how is it different from Marxism?
[04:22.400 --> 04:23.400] Well, that's a good question.
[04:23.400 --> 04:27.800] Well, anyway, the genesis is, as you mentioned, Quintus Fabius Maximus.
[04:27.800 --> 04:31.700] He was a Roman general, very slow moving.
[04:31.700 --> 04:37.100] He was very, you know, quiet, but he was slow and unforceful,
[04:37.100 --> 04:40.100] and much like the Fabians took his name,
[04:40.100 --> 04:42.600] because that's the process they want.
[04:42.600 --> 04:46.900] You know, their moniker originally was Wolf and Sheep's Clothing,
[04:46.900 --> 04:48.600] and that didn't work over too well.
[04:48.600 --> 04:50.500] Look at that one now, for a while.
[04:50.500 --> 04:53.500] And they said, now we'll switch to a turtle.
[04:53.500 --> 04:56.500] I think the Republicans and Democrats could use that imagery as well,
[04:56.500 --> 04:58.400] instead of a donkey and an elephant,
[04:58.400 --> 05:01.300] they could have a wolf and a sheep clothing for both of them, yeah.
[05:01.300 --> 05:04.400] They had to change their moniker, because it wasn't going over well.
[05:04.400 --> 05:06.900] But you know, if you go back to the genesis of it all,
[05:06.900 --> 05:13.500] Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner were involved in forming this elite group,
[05:13.500 --> 05:16.500] and George Bernard Shaw was certainly one of the members,
[05:16.500 --> 05:18.800] and Sidney Webb and all.
[05:18.800 --> 05:22.900] And you know, they were very open about socialism,
[05:22.900 --> 05:29.200] and you know, the dispute they had between Marx and themselves
[05:29.200 --> 05:32.200] was they wanted to believe in the more the ethical,
[05:32.200 --> 05:38.400] slow moving educational route versus violence.
[05:38.400 --> 05:41.400] And so that was their goal.
[05:41.400 --> 05:45.800] So, you know, they formed, you know, the London School of Economics,
[05:45.900 --> 05:51.700] and out of that school, you know, they put in place various key legislators
[05:51.700 --> 05:56.800] in government and even in institutions around the UK.
[05:56.800 --> 06:01.300] And they knew that by influencing public policy,
[06:01.300 --> 06:04.400] it didn't make any difference who was the elected official,
[06:04.400 --> 06:06.100] because they were setting the policy.
[06:06.100 --> 06:07.700] They do that today, as a matter of fact.
[06:07.700 --> 06:08.700] Yeah, yeah.
[06:08.700 --> 06:13.700] And so George Bernard Shaw was, he was also very large on eugenics.
[06:13.800 --> 06:15.700] As a matter of fact, I don't have that video clip,
[06:15.700 --> 06:17.500] but if you could listen to that audio clip,
[06:17.500 --> 06:21.300] he talks about once every five years, this is this one,
[06:21.300 --> 06:23.300] we'd have to stand in front of this board to determine
[06:23.300 --> 06:26.500] if we should be worthy of staying alive or not.
[06:26.500 --> 06:29.400] He actually said that, you know.
[06:29.400 --> 06:30.700] So he's going to imagine that.
[06:30.700 --> 06:35.400] Just destroyed my appreciation of my fair lady, right?
[06:35.400 --> 06:36.800] Can you imagine?
[06:36.800 --> 06:38.200] You can listen to it now, don't believe me,
[06:38.200 --> 06:41.200] you can look them up, you can listen to the video clip.
[06:41.200 --> 06:42.000] It's amazing.
[06:42.000 --> 06:45.000] And you know, and so every prime minister,
[06:45.000 --> 06:51.200] every Labour Party member of the UK is part of, is a Fabian.
[06:51.200 --> 06:55.600] And so the Fabian's goal is, is always has been,
[06:55.600 --> 06:59.300] as we call it, socialism with a slow walk to Marxism.
[06:59.300 --> 07:03.300] And what they want to do is govern every aspect of your life
[07:03.300 --> 07:04.900] and force globalism.
[07:04.900 --> 07:07.200] So as you see now today with Keir Starberg,
[07:07.200 --> 07:10.900] who by the way is a Fabian, as well as the mayor of London,
[07:10.900 --> 07:14.800] you're watching, it happened, the country being destroyed.
[07:14.800 --> 07:19.100] And I have podcasts with folks in London.
[07:19.100 --> 07:22.100] And I tell them, this is all to Q.
[07:22.100 --> 07:27.000] This is exactly what the plan is to destroy their heritage,
[07:27.000 --> 07:29.900] their history, to bring in usher in world government.
[07:29.900 --> 07:34.900] Now when you say, when you say they're Fabians,
[07:34.900 --> 07:38.300] is there still an organization that they belong as an active member
[07:38.300 --> 07:40.800] like somebody would belong to the John Birch Society?
[07:40.800 --> 07:43.500] So they actually have the Fabian Society there?
[07:43.500 --> 07:44.200] Yes.
[07:44.200 --> 07:46.300] Yeah, Tony Blair is a member of the Fabians.
[07:46.300 --> 07:50.800] You know, he's very active with it, by the way,
[07:50.800 --> 07:52.900] you know, with the World Economic Forum.
[07:52.900 --> 07:53.500] Interesting.
[07:53.500 --> 07:56.300] But if you go online, you can look up the Fabian Society.
[07:56.300 --> 07:57.900] They have organization in Australia.
[07:57.900 --> 08:01.100] They're young Fabians, you know, but they exist.
[08:01.100 --> 08:02.500] I mean, they exist today.
[08:02.500 --> 08:07.100] And when I speak to the British, very few really understand
[08:07.100 --> 08:08.500] the Fabians.
[08:08.500 --> 08:11.400] Liz Trust, I met Liz Trust, a past prime minister.
[08:11.400 --> 08:15.200] I was at a CEO conference and I gave her my card and I said,
[08:15.200 --> 08:17.000] I'll send you a copy of the Fabian Freeway.
[08:17.000 --> 08:21.000] Now she's actively doing YouTube phenomenon.
[08:21.000 --> 08:24.200] Because they said you never mentioned the Fabians, Liz.
[08:24.200 --> 08:26.700] But, you know, I think she knew exactly what they were.
[08:26.700 --> 08:33.300] But the whole thing was, David, back in Woodrow Wilson's days
[08:33.300 --> 08:37.300] when he actually worked with Colonel Mandel House,
[08:37.300 --> 08:40.500] another globalist, they formed this thing called the Inquiry.
[08:40.500 --> 08:44.300] And the Inquiry was a group of men, we're British and US,
[08:44.300 --> 08:48.000] and they disguise how are we going to work together
[08:48.000 --> 08:50.700] and kind of really conquer the world as far as the political
[08:50.700 --> 08:53.800] agenda and then eventually total.
[08:53.800 --> 08:58.400] And so that was a genesis of the Council on Foreign Relations.
[08:58.400 --> 09:00.300] So the Council on Foreign Relations, which is house in
[09:00.300 --> 09:04.700] New York City, they and the Fabians work together as we
[09:04.700 --> 09:09.400] speak today and setting governance and policy.
[09:09.400 --> 09:10.000] And they do that.
[09:10.000 --> 09:13.200] Regardless what the elections look like, they're behind the
[09:13.200 --> 09:15.500] scenes doing foreign policy.
[09:15.500 --> 09:17.600] And that's why we always look at each other.
[09:17.600 --> 09:19.600] Why doesn't everything change?
[09:19.600 --> 09:23.700] Well, that's because behind the scenes the same folks have been
[09:23.700 --> 09:25.100] working the agenda.
[09:25.100 --> 09:26.100] That's what's going on.
[09:26.100 --> 09:29.400] And we have to bring the light to the UK people as well as the
[09:29.400 --> 09:34.300] United States that this group, these groups are hard at work
[09:34.300 --> 09:37.300] directing our foreign policy, but our future.
[09:37.300 --> 09:38.600] It is for world government.
[09:38.600 --> 09:40.600] It's nothing to do with freedom.
[09:40.600 --> 09:44.600] And our job in the Bird Society is through education to make
[09:44.600 --> 09:46.500] people aware of who they are.
[09:46.500 --> 09:47.500] So we know what to do.
[09:47.500 --> 09:48.500] It's not mystical.
[09:48.500 --> 09:49.900] It's not magical.
[09:49.900 --> 09:52.600] It's not a beauty contest when you elect somebody.
[09:52.600 --> 09:56.100] But we have to know the threats are real and we see it today.
[09:56.100 --> 10:00.300] It sounds very much like Antonio Gramsci, the father of the
[10:00.300 --> 10:03.700] Italian Communist Party's strategy where he wanted to
[10:03.700 --> 10:05.500] march through the institutions.
[10:05.500 --> 10:08.600] How is it different than Gramsci's communism?
[10:08.600 --> 10:13.700] And I mention Antonio Gramsci because Pete Buttigieg is what I
[10:13.700 --> 10:16.800] call him because he's very proud of that.
[10:16.800 --> 10:20.700] But his father spent his entire career at Notre Dame.
[10:20.700 --> 10:23.600] That was really his specialty, Antonio Gramsci.
[10:23.700 --> 10:27.500] And he had him go to Harvard where he studied under.
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[12:28.600 --> 12:33.700] Sokvan Berkovich, who was also very much a fan of Italian
[12:33.700 --> 12:34.200] communism.
[12:34.200 --> 12:37.900] He changed his name to honor Sokko and Vanzetti.
[12:38.300 --> 12:43.400] And so, you know that I've focused I learned something
[12:43.400 --> 12:47.000] about Antonio Gramsci because of booty gay, but I also called
[12:47.000 --> 12:48.900] him booty marks because that's really where they're trying
[12:48.900 --> 12:49.300] to take us.
[12:49.300 --> 12:53.000] But again, it is a slow march through the institutions.
[12:53.300 --> 12:54.900] And so what is the difference?
[12:54.900 --> 12:57.200] Is it that one of them was Italian and the other one was
[12:57.200 --> 12:59.600] predominantly English and American kind of Anglo?
[13:00.600 --> 13:00.800] Yeah.
[13:00.800 --> 13:04.200] Well, Gramsci was involved as an Italian.
[13:04.200 --> 13:08.400] He's from Sardinia and he was grew up in that area farm.
[13:08.400 --> 13:12.200] He watched the farmer owners take advantage of the farmer
[13:12.200 --> 13:12.700] workers.
[13:13.000 --> 13:16.100] He actually has a book called David called the Gramsci
[13:16.100 --> 13:19.800] papers prison papers and that's about this thing I have behind
[13:19.800 --> 13:22.900] me in my library and it was written on toilet paper, by the
[13:22.900 --> 13:30.400] way, and he passed it to his sister and it became the Gramsci
[13:30.400 --> 13:34.200] pay the prison papers and Gramsci was, you know, a threat
[13:34.200 --> 13:36.500] to, you know, the Nazis in Germany.
[13:36.900 --> 13:39.900] And that's why it was called the Frankfurt School and Hitler
[13:39.900 --> 13:41.200] tossed them out of the United States.
[13:41.200 --> 13:42.800] They end up in club university.
[13:43.500 --> 13:50.800] And and so the goal then was then to indoctrinate and reduce
[13:50.800 --> 13:54.000] the morality of young college students and shove down their
[13:54.000 --> 13:55.600] throat socialism communism.
[13:55.600 --> 14:00.300] So now we have the professors from various institutions in
[14:00.300 --> 14:04.500] the country about remember that then the 60s about the hippie
[14:04.500 --> 14:07.100] moving all that was all coming from the Frankfurt School
[14:07.100 --> 14:10.500] through Columbia University destroy they knew they have this
[14:10.600 --> 14:15.300] Gramsci said David I can't we can't destroy the United States
[14:15.300 --> 14:16.500] or Western societies.
[14:16.500 --> 14:19.300] We talked to it economically.
[14:19.300 --> 14:20.100] That's hard.
[14:20.100 --> 14:24.000] Yeah, we have to change them morally because if we could do
[14:24.000 --> 14:26.500] that we could destroy the morality because that's the glue
[14:26.500 --> 14:30.100] that holds them together then we can destroy them and that's
[14:30.100 --> 14:33.400] what that's the whole story with the Frankfurt School which
[14:33.400 --> 14:34.600] ended up at Columbia University.
[14:34.600 --> 14:37.900] If you think about it where we are back in the 40s to where
[14:37.900 --> 14:40.200] today you could see the morality of United States going
[14:40.200 --> 14:43.700] the other direction and that's all according to plan and that's
[14:43.700 --> 14:46.100] why they got so heavily involved in Hollywood the entertainment
[14:46.100 --> 14:46.900] business as well.
[14:46.900 --> 14:49.200] Absolutely correct and that's what happened.
[14:49.400 --> 14:54.300] So they knew that's exactly one of the key points that makes
[14:54.300 --> 14:57.000] the United States of Western civilization so strong as our
[14:57.000 --> 14:59.200] moral behavior and our beliefs.
[14:59.600 --> 15:02.400] So that's what we see today, but that's the difference between
[15:02.400 --> 15:06.800] the two and so they're Marxist but they use that social element.
[15:06.800 --> 15:08.700] They said Karl Marx wasn't right.
[15:08.800 --> 15:10.700] He thought economics was the only way.
[15:11.000 --> 15:13.000] No, we're going to have to do the moral end of it.
[15:13.000 --> 15:15.800] So that's they morphed it into another strategy, but it's all
[15:15.800 --> 15:18.900] the same man goal is stole slavery and you can see that very
[15:18.900 --> 15:23.700] much in what sock van Berkovich focused on there at Harvard.
[15:24.300 --> 15:29.500] Everything for him was a product of Puritanism.
[15:29.500 --> 15:32.100] And so we've got to overthrow this whole the Puritan roots
[15:32.100 --> 15:35.400] of America and we've got to attack it at its foundation,
[15:35.400 --> 15:38.400] but he was really what he was trying to do was to attack the
[15:38.400 --> 15:40.500] moral foundation of the country.
[15:40.700 --> 15:43.800] That's why he focused on that so much, but everything he
[15:43.800 --> 15:46.800] talked about was in terms of that, you know, well, this is
[15:46.800 --> 15:49.800] because of the, you know, the Mayflower and we've got to
[15:49.800 --> 15:51.200] get rid of that.
[15:51.500 --> 15:54.800] But it is kind of interesting and of course we see other
[15:54.800 --> 15:55.900] approaches as well.
[15:55.900 --> 16:03.900] You had people like Bill Ayers, okay, they decided that they
[16:03.900 --> 16:07.900] would they said well, we've had class struggles over, you
[16:07.900 --> 16:09.400] know, for Marxism in Europe.
[16:10.100 --> 16:11.000] That's not going to work here.
[16:11.000 --> 16:12.200] It's not working here that well.
[16:12.300 --> 16:13.800] So let's go to a race struggle.
[16:13.800 --> 16:17.600] So there's yet another approach that the communists have
[16:17.600 --> 16:17.800] taken.
[16:17.800 --> 16:21.500] They've got so many different prongs to get all of them take
[16:21.500 --> 16:22.700] us to the same hell.
[16:22.700 --> 16:23.200] Don't they?
[16:26.200 --> 16:28.300] Yeah, we do the dirty work for them.
[16:28.300 --> 16:32.200] We have, you know, class struggles men against women.
[16:32.200 --> 16:35.000] That's another big one right now children against their
[16:35.000 --> 16:37.900] parents, black versus white or tan.
[16:37.900 --> 16:40.900] It's all about it's all about conflict and war.
[16:40.900 --> 16:44.400] That's the that's the that's their goal because they need
[16:44.400 --> 16:47.800] that to enforce more rules and regulations of the government
[16:47.800 --> 16:48.800] and less freedom.
[16:49.100 --> 16:50.400] You guys can't play nice.
[16:50.700 --> 16:51.100] Okay.
[16:51.100 --> 16:54.000] Well, we're going to incite that in there and you know, the
[16:54.000 --> 16:57.600] Marxists knew that one of the goals and it's what written
[16:57.600 --> 17:01.200] over a period of time lots of documentation on how that
[17:01.200 --> 17:03.000] works, but that's the goal.
[17:03.000 --> 17:07.500] So they're playing to our frailties of humans, you know,
[17:08.300 --> 17:12.800] rich versus poor black versus white tan versus white Chinese
[17:12.800 --> 17:16.900] whatever doesn't make a difference because their end game
[17:16.900 --> 17:19.900] is world government and they know that they can't have a
[17:19.900 --> 17:20.500] lot of us.
[17:20.500 --> 17:22.800] So we have to we have to exterminate some.
[17:22.800 --> 17:26.700] So let those guys exterminate themselves and that's what
[17:26.700 --> 17:29.600] we see, you know, and we're seeing that now in the UK as
[17:29.600 --> 17:33.200] we start our conversation about the Fabians as I talked to
[17:33.200 --> 17:36.700] the folks in the UK were watching their country and I used
[17:36.700 --> 17:39.200] to live there work there in Oxfordshire.
[17:39.500 --> 17:43.100] So I know the country rather well and I'm watching those
[17:43.100 --> 17:47.900] folks being destroyed by the invaders on purpose, but they're
[17:47.900 --> 17:52.000] doing the dirty work destroying all their history and inflict
[17:52.000 --> 17:56.200] terror and and terror into the those folks in Ireland as well
[17:56.200 --> 17:59.100] as the UK and they're concerned.
[17:59.300 --> 18:03.800] But I'm seeing a resurgence of the British citizen rising up.
[18:03.800 --> 18:05.000] I was about a month ago.
[18:05.000 --> 18:07.300] You recall him in London.
[18:07.300 --> 18:11.100] They had people marching with the British flag.
[18:11.800 --> 18:13.700] It wasn't 200,000 David.
[18:14.000 --> 18:16.200] We had people that were there and they said it was more like
[18:16.200 --> 18:17.900] 3 million people were there.
[18:18.300 --> 18:21.300] You'll see farmer trucks now marching into London with their
[18:21.300 --> 18:22.100] tractors.
[18:22.500 --> 18:26.500] They don't want to be slaves and I've talked enough Europeans.
[18:27.000 --> 18:30.000] They don't want to be a part of the European AC any longer.
[18:30.000 --> 18:31.400] They're losing their sovereignty.
[18:31.700 --> 18:35.200] They love their history David and they really respect and when
[18:35.200 --> 18:39.600] I travel throughout Europe when I live there, they really love
[18:39.600 --> 18:43.200] their history and they love their heritage is being destroyed
[18:43.200 --> 18:45.500] systematically and it does not work.
[18:46.100 --> 18:48.800] One one thing I wanted to tell you which is interesting.
[18:48.800 --> 18:52.000] I found out talking to several of the folks within, you know
[18:52.000 --> 18:56.700] past legislators, they tell me they get their news about the
[18:56.700 --> 19:03.400] United States in two ways CNN and the New York Times was that
[19:03.400 --> 19:03.900] tell you David?
[19:03.900 --> 19:09.600] Yeah, you're going to see CNN.
[19:09.800 --> 19:11.200] I go, what is that doing in there?
[19:11.200 --> 19:14.700] You know, I'm in, you know, I'm in Hungary or I'm in Italy.
[19:14.700 --> 19:15.700] I'm watching CNN.
[19:15.700 --> 19:19.100] I but that's how they look at the United States.
[19:19.100 --> 19:21.100] I said, well, that's totally upside down.
[19:21.100 --> 19:21.800] You know, yeah.
[19:22.100 --> 19:24.900] Well, I had a friend who worked in the Pentagon and you know,
[19:25.100 --> 19:29.000] about 20 or 30 years ago and when I talked to him, he said
[19:29.000 --> 19:31.800] yeah, CNN is playing on the screen all over the Pentagon all
[19:31.800 --> 19:32.900] the different rooms and everything.
[19:33.600 --> 19:36.200] That's a communist news network.
[19:36.200 --> 19:36.800] That's right.
[19:38.200 --> 19:41.300] It's very important that who you listen to, you know, and I've
[19:41.300 --> 19:46.600] always tried to listen to various sources and I would go to
[19:46.600 --> 19:51.300] the I always preferred people who would tell me what they
[19:51.300 --> 19:54.300] think and why they think it rather than the people who try
[19:54.300 --> 19:57.700] to be this mushy middle like Time and Newsweek, you know, so
[19:57.700 --> 20:01.200] I was always looking at The Nation or National Review or
[20:01.200 --> 20:04.900] something like that, even though I don't support their views.
[20:04.900 --> 20:07.800] I'd like to see that conflict that was there because a lot of
[20:07.800 --> 20:10.700] times that would help me to understand where I stood on the
[20:10.700 --> 20:11.200] issue.
[20:11.200 --> 20:13.700] So I try to get these people that are opposed to each other
[20:13.700 --> 20:16.400] but most people just go for something like Time or
[20:16.400 --> 20:20.000] Newsweek or CNN and it's kind of the mushy middle that's
[20:20.000 --> 20:24.000] put out there by the Mockingbird programs that are out there
[20:24.000 --> 20:24.600] for people.
[20:25.000 --> 20:27.000] But that's why it's very important for people to educate
[20:27.000 --> 20:30.100] themselves and that's a very important thing that you do at
[20:30.100 --> 20:31.000] the John Birch Society.
[20:31.000 --> 20:33.400] Tell us a little bit about the John Birch Society and how it's
[20:33.400 --> 20:34.400] organized at local level.
[20:35.200 --> 20:35.900] Yes, thank you.
[20:35.900 --> 20:39.400] We started in 1958 and our goal is education.
[20:39.400 --> 20:42.400] You know, education is really critical for us educating people
[20:42.400 --> 20:43.800] about American values.
[20:44.100 --> 20:45.700] Our job is limited government.
[20:46.400 --> 20:47.900] You know, so people call us far-right.
[20:47.900 --> 20:48.700] That's not true.
[20:49.000 --> 20:51.700] We're actually constitutional moderates some form of government
[20:51.700 --> 20:52.600] but not total.
[20:53.300 --> 20:56.000] All the left is all the isms, clearly fascism, right?
[20:56.500 --> 20:59.200] And our job is to teach American Americanism is not taught
[20:59.200 --> 20:59.700] anymore.
[20:59.900 --> 21:04.000] So we have free courses online the JBS.org about teaching
[21:04.000 --> 21:06.900] about the Constitution and we said how do you elect
[21:06.900 --> 21:10.700] constitutional minor representative state local or federal
[21:11.000 --> 21:12.300] if you don't know the playbook?
[21:12.700 --> 21:15.700] So how do you hold them accountable and what's not taught
[21:15.700 --> 21:16.600] on purpose?
[21:16.700 --> 21:18.900] So now becomes a personality contest.
[21:18.900 --> 21:19.700] We don't want that.
[21:19.700 --> 21:23.000] So we teach people Americanism and we give them the history and
[21:23.000 --> 21:25.100] we show them who's behind the curtain like we mentioned the
[21:25.100 --> 21:29.400] Fabians and the CFR and who's forming foreign policy and once
[21:29.400 --> 21:31.500] people know what goes on that's important.
[21:31.500 --> 21:32.800] We call it a conspiracy.
[21:32.800 --> 21:36.100] It's not theory any longer, but the conspiracy says this the
[21:36.100 --> 21:38.600] first goal is to deny its existence.
[21:39.000 --> 21:39.600] Of course.
[21:40.100 --> 21:41.700] So we said look let's expose them.
[21:41.700 --> 21:42.400] It's not us.
[21:42.400 --> 21:44.900] That's why I have a thousand books behind me is that over
[21:44.900 --> 21:49.000] the course of time improves that they does exist and they
[21:49.000 --> 21:50.600] actually come out and talk about it.
[21:51.700 --> 21:55.800] It's interesting as we we as we look through time and look
[21:55.800 --> 21:56.700] through history.
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[23:35.400 --> 23:39.400] I always go go back to my UK experience were honest Huxley
[23:39.400 --> 23:42.200] was a Fabian I go back to that for a second answer your
[23:42.200 --> 23:45.400] question and what happened is he was writing is this guy
[23:45.400 --> 23:47.600] was a young author writing all information about what
[23:47.600 --> 23:48.200] he heard.
[23:48.600 --> 23:52.000] He was so excited about it that he decided to write a
[23:52.000 --> 23:55.400] book and he said I can't use my pen name.
[23:55.400 --> 23:56.400] My name is Eric Blair.
[23:56.400 --> 23:59.000] I can't use that I have to use a pen name.
[23:59.000 --> 24:01.800] So I think my name is George and or what Joe George
[24:01.800 --> 24:06.700] Orwell is really the Eric Blair and he wrote 1984 about
[24:06.700 --> 24:10.000] the Fabians and the question becomes and why is it 1984?
[24:10.300 --> 24:15.300] Well, January 4th of 1884 is the foundational of the Fabians
[24:15.300 --> 24:17.900] and they said with the 100 years we have world government.
[24:18.200 --> 24:20.400] That's why that books title 1984.
[24:20.900 --> 24:26.700] So I heard people say because he wrote it in 1948, but yeah,
[24:26.700 --> 24:28.800] that's the 100th anniversary.
[24:28.800 --> 24:31.800] Yeah, I don't believe it because he was indoctrinated by
[24:31.800 --> 24:36.100] HG Wells and Alex Huxley about me writes about Big Brother
[24:36.100 --> 24:36.700] Newspeak.
[24:36.700 --> 24:40.900] That's all about the Fabians and now that's in vogue.
[24:41.300 --> 24:44.800] I'm saying hey look that wasn't done as a science fiction.
[24:44.900 --> 24:48.900] That was really his telling you and he couldn't you know hold
[24:48.900 --> 24:49.400] himself.
[24:49.400 --> 24:51.500] He said I have to really talk about this.
[24:51.900 --> 24:54.000] That's why it's and I believe that I personally believe
[24:54.000 --> 24:55.300] that's why it's 1984.
[24:55.300 --> 24:56.700] It's a hundred years of existence.
[24:56.800 --> 24:59.700] And of course I mentioned the Council on Formulations is
[24:59.700 --> 25:03.900] a child of the Fabians and now we have an American version
[25:03.900 --> 25:06.300] that we have, you know, the European version work in
[25:06.300 --> 25:06.700] unison.
[25:06.700 --> 25:10.500] So our job is in birch Society is educate people what's
[25:10.500 --> 25:13.700] going on to be personally responsible to elect
[25:13.700 --> 25:16.800] constitutional moderates and constitutional minded
[25:16.800 --> 25:20.800] representatives state local and federal so we can we can
[25:20.800 --> 25:25.100] monitor not only our behavior but go back to constitutional
[25:25.100 --> 25:29.300] based law and not rule by elitist and that's what we see
[25:29.300 --> 25:29.800] today.
[25:30.800 --> 25:33.300] Yeah, and so, you know, and it's important for people to
[25:33.300 --> 25:37.700] understand how many different ways they come at us in order
[25:37.700 --> 25:39.700] to set up a totalitarian government.
[25:39.700 --> 25:43.000] They have so many different tactics and strategies and of
[25:43.000 --> 25:45.200] course one of those I think that you're talking about all
[25:45.200 --> 25:48.700] this Huxley and others like that HG Wells and Huxley the
[25:49.000 --> 25:50.600] the technocracy that was there.
[25:50.600 --> 25:52.700] I mean talk a little bit about technocracy as well.
[25:52.700 --> 25:55.300] That's really kind of coming to us people don't really know
[25:55.300 --> 25:58.000] where to fit that, you know, because it doesn't really fit
[25:58.000 --> 26:01.200] into the left right paradigm and yet that seems to be on
[26:01.200 --> 26:02.500] the ascendancy as well.
[26:02.500 --> 26:03.600] Talk about a little bit about that.
[26:03.600 --> 26:07.400] Well, you know the story about technology, you know, but
[26:07.400 --> 26:10.000] next to have a fellow used to be a member of the birch Society
[26:10.000 --> 26:11.300] was a where is it a CIA?
[26:11.300 --> 26:13.900] He said smile a lot because your picture gets taken about
[26:13.900 --> 26:14.900] 300 times a day.
[26:15.900 --> 26:17.700] That's right more than that now.
[26:18.600 --> 26:22.200] Yeah, you go bang grocery store going to get gas joy, but
[26:22.200 --> 26:27.700] technocracy is a tool for for monitoring and governance.
[26:28.100 --> 26:31.200] And they that's why you see I AI data data centers and know
[26:31.200 --> 26:34.500] every little thing that you've done and they they're openly
[26:34.500 --> 26:36.500] said this in the Bank of International Settlements.
[26:36.500 --> 26:39.300] They want to have this digital currency where they can monitor
[26:39.300 --> 26:44.900] every any of your expenditures from $100 on up so they could
[26:44.900 --> 26:46.300] determine by checking China.
[26:46.300 --> 26:48.800] If you have a bad social score, then you're not going to buy
[26:48.800 --> 26:49.300] anything.
[26:49.700 --> 26:52.500] So if you think about technology is going to be their
[26:52.500 --> 26:54.600] weapon or tool to keep you in line.
[26:55.000 --> 26:57.700] That's where I see it happening and they're doing it through
[26:57.700 --> 26:58.800] a lot of different angles.
[26:58.800 --> 27:01.500] It looks kind of cool, but that's really the goal.
[27:01.900 --> 27:04.200] One of the things I began the program with today was talking
[27:04.200 --> 27:07.100] about the fact that you know, I mentioned all the time about
[27:07.100 --> 27:11.800] how artificial intelligence is really going to be a superpower
[27:11.800 --> 27:15.400] for any kind of government tyranny to be able to monitor
[27:15.800 --> 27:17.800] you and everything you're doing is you're just talking about
[27:17.800 --> 27:20.600] but also to manipulate opinion as well.
[27:21.100 --> 27:24.200] And that's why very is very concerning to me to see that
[27:24.500 --> 27:29.700] this latest executive order from Trump that essentially presumes
[27:29.700 --> 27:34.100] to prohibit any state laws that would curb things that are
[27:34.100 --> 27:37.200] happening with AI companies because I think what where that
[27:37.200 --> 27:39.800] would really happen would be with the data centers.
[27:39.800 --> 27:42.800] I think it's where the big conflict is going to come very
[27:42.800 --> 27:45.900] true and you know, that is the bottleneck for them and that
[27:45.900 --> 27:48.100] would be one of the ways that you could limit them to buy a
[27:48.100 --> 27:51.400] little bit of time to try to get some control of the situation
[27:51.400 --> 27:56.700] or structure to keep some of these things at bay, but again
[27:56.700 --> 28:01.400] to prohibit that at the federal level and that is in direct
[28:01.400 --> 28:04.300] conflict with the 10th Amendment and of course the Democrats
[28:04.300 --> 28:06.900] will tell you that now because they're not in Bauer, but as
[28:06.900 --> 28:08.700] soon as they get in Bauer, they don't care about the 10th
[28:08.700 --> 28:14.300] Amendment either, but it is really a real concern about this
[28:14.300 --> 28:19.500] concentration of power and the you know, the destruction of
[28:19.500 --> 28:22.200] the 10th Amendment and of course the enforcement mechanism
[28:22.200 --> 28:25.900] that is going to run through is going to be to use financial
[28:25.900 --> 28:29.300] carrots and sticks for people coming out of the federal
[28:29.300 --> 28:31.000] government. That's the way they always get around the 10th
[28:31.000 --> 28:31.700] Amendment, isn't it?
[28:32.600 --> 28:33.500] Absolutely correct.
[28:33.500 --> 28:34.900] Yes, the technocracy.
[28:35.200 --> 28:37.300] That's exactly what we call technocracy.
[28:37.300 --> 28:39.000] Yes, the techno bureaucrats.
[28:39.000 --> 28:42.700] That's where they use that technology as I call it digital
[28:42.700 --> 28:43.300] prison.
[28:43.400 --> 28:44.900] That's basically where you're looking at.
[28:44.900 --> 28:47.200] Yes, that's kind of where we're at and that's what they're
[28:47.300 --> 28:48.500] setting up digital prison.
[28:48.500 --> 28:52.100] So you can't go anywhere to do anything within your 15-minute
[28:52.100 --> 28:55.100] city, whatever you want to be to monitor where you are.
[28:55.600 --> 28:57.000] So you lose all your freedoms.
[28:57.000 --> 28:59.500] They're constantly coming up with different justifications
[28:59.500 --> 29:03.100] to take us to the same kind of Orwellian hell that they want
[29:03.100 --> 29:05.700] to set up and that's why you know when you look at the
[29:05.700 --> 29:08.200] Chinese communists, many times I'd look at them and say,
[29:08.200 --> 29:11.100] okay, so are they really communist anymore or are they
[29:11.100 --> 29:14.400] fascist because they've kind of merged economics and politics
[29:14.600 --> 29:17.100] to a great extent there and it's highly nationalistic
[29:17.100 --> 29:18.100] and all the rest of these other things.
[29:18.100 --> 29:21.000] So it's important to understand all these different strains
[29:21.300 --> 29:23.800] but then to not get boxed in by any of them.
[29:23.800 --> 29:25.600] To understand these people mix and match.
[29:25.900 --> 29:28.400] They'll take whatever they can use, make these different
[29:28.400 --> 29:31.400] strategies and you know when you look at them, if you were
[29:31.400 --> 29:33.900] to construct a Venn diagram, it seems like they're all
[29:33.900 --> 29:36.700] starting to reach convergence instead of one little point
[29:36.700 --> 29:37.900] of overlap, doesn't it?
[29:38.600 --> 29:39.200] Yeah, exactly.
[29:39.200 --> 29:41.300] Well, you know communism is just a tool.
[29:41.300 --> 29:44.100] That's all it is, a tool for global governance.
[29:44.600 --> 29:47.800] It's not the be all end all, just like any other religious
[29:48.000 --> 29:50.300] things that we see, it's got nothing to do with it at all.
[29:50.500 --> 29:53.300] Matter of fact, the men who are globalists are not communist.
[29:53.300 --> 29:54.400] They're not, that's a tool.
[29:54.800 --> 29:57.300] They're not fascist, but they use that mentality, but it's
[29:57.300 --> 29:59.400] all the tool for world government.
[29:59.400 --> 30:01.400] It's all going to come through the United Nations and you
[30:01.400 --> 30:02.400] see the UN.
[30:03.900 --> 30:06.700] That's the center point of it all and we have a magazine
[30:06.700 --> 30:10.900] called The New American and matter of fact, we're actually
[30:11.300 --> 30:14.400] launching it in there called The New European and I can
[30:14.400 --> 30:15.100] show you this.
[30:15.400 --> 30:16.300] Oh good, yeah.
[30:16.500 --> 30:19.900] Matt here, David, these are little bubble diagrams.
[30:19.900 --> 30:21.000] I hope you can see this all.
[30:21.300 --> 30:23.700] These are all the UN offices in the world.
[30:24.400 --> 30:26.900] They're not just one location in, you know, these river
[30:26.900 --> 30:27.700] in Brussels.
[30:27.800 --> 30:28.100] Yeah.
[30:28.300 --> 30:30.300] What are these people doing all these locations?
[30:30.300 --> 30:31.200] Well, you're on the menu.
[30:31.200 --> 30:32.200] That's what's going on.
[30:33.500 --> 30:36.400] So you can imagine all those, you know, it's all over the
[30:36.400 --> 30:36.900] United States.
[30:36.900 --> 30:39.200] So I'd be happy to send this to you in a New American
[30:39.200 --> 30:39.700] magazine.
[30:39.700 --> 30:42.800] We have this one called The Global Power Grab.
[30:43.100 --> 30:46.900] We did this one and it talks and I show this around the
[30:46.900 --> 30:50.400] Australians and the New Zealand's and UK folks and the
[30:50.400 --> 30:51.400] lady in France.
[30:51.600 --> 30:55.200] They were totally amazed the depth of the United Nation all
[30:55.200 --> 30:57.400] these offices all over the world.
[30:57.500 --> 31:01.300] Yes, and they're busy carving up the world for global
[31:01.300 --> 31:01.800] governance.
[31:01.800 --> 31:04.700] So that's that's where our part of our job at the Birch
[31:04.700 --> 31:08.500] site expose what's happening through education and making
[31:08.500 --> 31:12.000] ways. It's not too late because it's more of us than them
[31:12.000 --> 31:14.700] and they know that our job their job is to keep us off
[31:14.700 --> 31:18.500] message and looking at sports figures or Hollywood or this
[31:18.500 --> 31:20.700] or that the same time.
[31:20.700 --> 31:24.200] They're destroying our foundational principles of freedom.
[31:24.300 --> 31:24.900] Oh, absolutely.
[31:24.900 --> 31:26.900] Yeah, I've had Alex Newman on many times.
[31:26.900 --> 31:30.400] I've talked to Alex and a great guy there at the New
[31:30.400 --> 31:33.800] American and I've had other people as well from the New
[31:33.800 --> 31:34.300] American.
[31:34.400 --> 31:37.300] It's great publication and as you point out with that map
[31:37.300 --> 31:41.000] and you see all the different areas where they have areas
[31:41.000 --> 31:43.300] of responsibility in actual physical locations everything.
[31:43.300 --> 31:46.700] I think that's a key thing for people understand is that it's
[31:46.700 --> 31:49.400] not necessarily going to be as you point out in Brussels when
[31:49.400 --> 31:52.000] you say well, there's the seat of government or whatever or
[31:52.000 --> 31:53.200] the East River in New York.
[31:53.500 --> 31:56.100] It really is not so much about that.
[31:56.100 --> 31:57.900] It's about global governance.
[31:57.900 --> 32:01.500] It's about this network of different organizations that
[32:01.500 --> 32:03.700] are out there and that's one of the things that I see about
[32:03.800 --> 32:08.400] technocracy is really that not just, you know, the electronic
[32:08.400 --> 32:11.000] network networking that's out there, but actually the political
[32:11.000 --> 32:15.700] networking that is there and the interlocking of these different
[32:15.700 --> 32:17.800] financial interests that are out there so they can all have
[32:17.800 --> 32:22.000] their own goals and things but it is all pushing us towards
[32:22.000 --> 32:26.600] this global governance and and the technology is really giving
[32:26.600 --> 32:28.600] them power that they've never had before.
[32:29.100 --> 32:31.600] That's the key thing that's really concerning me.
[32:32.200 --> 32:36.400] We saw that with COVID-19 was a good data set beta test for
[32:36.400 --> 32:36.800] them.
[32:37.000 --> 32:38.600] I had the whole world under control.
[32:38.600 --> 32:41.300] I'm sure they were absolutely laughing and amazed how easy
[32:41.300 --> 32:42.900] it was to make that happen.
[32:42.900 --> 32:45.900] I know I was absolutely astounded how easy it was for them
[32:45.900 --> 32:46.400] as well.
[32:47.300 --> 32:49.900] And again, I think you know, you look at the stimulus checks
[32:49.900 --> 32:53.300] and all the rest of this stuff that was training wheels for
[32:53.300 --> 32:56.600] Universal Basic Income, which was something that Elon Musk
[32:56.600 --> 33:00.500] has always been focused on when you had Andrew Yang come out
[33:00.500 --> 33:02.900] and said he was going to run for president and that was going
[33:02.900 --> 33:04.600] to be his issue, the main issue.
[33:04.600 --> 33:06.900] He branched out and some other things later on, but as soon
[33:06.900 --> 33:09.900] as he came out and said Universal Basic Income, Elon Musk
[33:09.900 --> 33:11.800] handed him a million dollars, you know, he wanted him to
[33:11.800 --> 33:12.700] push that idea.
[33:12.700 --> 33:15.300] Well, it got pushed really big in 2020.
[33:17.700 --> 33:20.600] That's all part of the that's all part of the program Universal
[33:20.600 --> 33:21.600] Income to the UN.
[33:21.600 --> 33:22.800] Yeah, of course it is.
[33:22.800 --> 33:23.700] Yeah, the whole job.
[33:23.700 --> 33:25.600] They want you to be industrious.
[33:25.900 --> 33:29.000] They want you to be collective not individualists and we fight
[33:29.000 --> 33:29.900] collectivism.
[33:30.300 --> 33:32.500] We believe in individualism not collectivism.
[33:32.500 --> 33:35.600] That's all part of the rule, you know, there's a called the
[33:35.600 --> 33:40.200] herd mentality and that's exactly what they need to control
[33:40.200 --> 33:40.600] us.
[33:40.600 --> 33:43.600] It's all that's the end game is that world government and they
[33:43.600 --> 33:46.000] will determine as I mentioned, I'm early on we started the
[33:46.000 --> 33:49.700] show with George Bernard Shaw before the eugenics committee
[33:49.800 --> 33:53.200] who lives in who dies and you may not have that choice.
[33:53.600 --> 33:56.600] If you're a strong crowd Christian or belief you may not
[33:56.600 --> 33:58.100] fit into because they're amoral.
[33:58.100 --> 33:59.300] They don't have any beliefs.
[33:59.300 --> 34:00.500] The state is their belief.
[34:00.600 --> 34:02.200] You may not fit into their program.
[34:02.200 --> 34:05.500] If you can't be indoctrinated correctly, you may be exterminated.
[34:05.600 --> 34:06.000] That's right.
[34:06.000 --> 34:07.400] That's written about that.
[34:07.400 --> 34:11.300] So it's these guys wait for keeps and it's serious and our
[34:11.300 --> 34:16.200] job has been to expose their plan since the late 50s and
[34:16.200 --> 34:19.300] really what they want to do and they're very open about it now
[34:19.300 --> 34:24.500] more so than ever because they feel like men young adults have
[34:24.500 --> 34:27.200] been so indoctrinated through the universities and school that
[34:27.200 --> 34:28.300] socialism is good.
[34:28.300 --> 34:31.300] Like we saw the the last mayor race in New York City and can
[34:31.300 --> 34:32.000] you imagine?
[34:32.300 --> 34:34.400] Yeah, yeah, nothing's free.
[34:34.500 --> 34:37.200] The schools have indoctrinated that but then we also have the
[34:37.200 --> 34:41.400] situation where the you know, the Gen Z people are finding
[34:41.400 --> 34:44.300] it very the kids are finding it very difficult to find a job
[34:44.300 --> 34:46.600] even if they go to college and finding it difficult to find
[34:46.600 --> 34:49.900] a job and that is something I think that really drives this
[34:50.000 --> 34:53.500] because again, one of the things that socialism has always
[34:53.500 --> 34:54.300] pushed out there.
[34:54.300 --> 34:57.700] I think is envy, you know, they find these different at its
[34:57.700 --> 34:58.000] core.
[34:58.000 --> 35:02.400] I think like Solinsky, you know, dedicated his book rules
[35:02.400 --> 35:05.400] for radicals to Satan and I think at the core of it, there's
[35:05.400 --> 35:10.400] all these different satanic appeals to the evil aspects of
[35:10.400 --> 35:13.200] our nature, you know, whether it's about greed, whether it's
[35:13.200 --> 35:17.000] about envy, whether it's about hatred, racism, tribalism, all
[35:17.000 --> 35:21.000] these different things and they they identify these things and
[35:21.000 --> 35:23.900] seek to exploit them with these different approaches that they
[35:23.900 --> 35:28.100] take, you know, and so that's what I think is is you have to
[35:28.100 --> 35:31.000] be aware of the tactics and the strategies that are there
[35:31.000 --> 35:32.400] forever going to be able to defeat them.
[35:32.400 --> 35:34.700] Otherwise, we're just putting in their hands, aren't we?
[35:35.400 --> 35:37.400] That's exactly and you're exactly correct.
[35:37.400 --> 35:38.400] That's exactly what they do.
[35:38.400 --> 35:41.700] They pit one group against another one philosophy because
[35:41.700 --> 35:43.000] it's all about conflict.
[35:44.000 --> 35:45.300] It's all about the conflict.
[35:45.300 --> 35:47.800] That's critically important, but we have to identify what it
[35:47.800 --> 35:49.800] is and expose what it is.
[35:49.800 --> 35:50.900] That's really important.
[35:50.900 --> 35:52.100] So we know the game.
[35:52.100 --> 35:52.900] It's a charades.
[35:53.100 --> 35:57.500] You remember the remember the the movie where we had with
[35:57.500 --> 36:00.500] Julie Garland follow yellow big road, you know, and all of a
[36:00.500 --> 36:02.100] sudden who's the man behind the curtain?
[36:02.100 --> 36:03.300] Don't pay attention to him.
[36:03.600 --> 36:07.300] Well, we expose who's behind the curtain, you know, and that's
[36:07.300 --> 36:08.400] really what it's all about.
[36:08.400 --> 36:09.500] It's really a plan.
[36:09.500 --> 36:13.800] It's not done by accident and we see a lot of Kubuki theater.
[36:14.100 --> 36:18.400] Yes, but the thing is is that we identify really what it is and
[36:18.400 --> 36:21.800] to tell you what, it's very difficult for people to believe
[36:21.800 --> 36:25.300] it because some of their heroes of the past were not good people.
[36:25.300 --> 36:25.800] That's right.
[36:25.800 --> 36:26.700] I'm sorry, folks.
[36:26.700 --> 36:29.500] Or the heroes of the present or the present.
[36:29.800 --> 36:31.400] I mentioned about George Bernard Shaw.
[36:31.400 --> 36:33.400] The guy was, you know, thinking about that one.
[36:33.500 --> 36:37.100] I mean, I can go on but there's a lot of them and they were
[36:37.100 --> 36:38.300] not who they thought they were.
[36:38.300 --> 36:41.400] I mean, yeah, he wrote Pygmalion, which was then turned
[36:41.400 --> 36:43.500] into My Fair Lady, you know, the musical in the play.
[36:43.500 --> 36:46.200] And, you know, we enjoy the music with that.
[36:46.200 --> 36:49.700] But yeah, the guy who was there and even when you look at all
[36:49.700 --> 36:53.000] these different science fiction novels, they've basically become
[36:53.000 --> 36:53.900] a blueprint for them.
[36:54.200 --> 36:56.500] But when you're talking about how they like to set up conflict
[36:56.500 --> 36:59.200] between different groups, that's why I think we really need to
[36:59.200 --> 37:03.800] have our guard up about partisan politics because that is another
[37:03.800 --> 37:04.300] way they do it.
[37:04.300 --> 37:08.300] They don't just do it by race or by sex or this or that.
[37:08.300 --> 37:12.300] They do it also with political factions and, you know, when
[37:12.300 --> 37:15.800] people buy into these things and start to excuse the actions
[37:15.800 --> 37:19.100] of their leaders, what they really need to do is to look at
[37:19.100 --> 37:22.000] the longer historical view and say where were the Fabian
[37:22.000 --> 37:23.100] socialists trying to take us?
[37:23.100 --> 37:25.600] You know, where were the Gramsci socialists trying to take us?
[37:25.600 --> 37:27.500] Where were the Marxists trying to take us?
[37:28.100 --> 37:33.500] And if the actions of the person that's the hero of your party
[37:33.800 --> 37:37.900] is going to move us in the direction of these socialists
[37:37.900 --> 37:42.100] and Marxists, they need to pull back and say we're not going
[37:42.100 --> 37:44.800] to follow that even though that's part of our our tribe here
[37:44.800 --> 37:45.400] or whatever.
[37:45.700 --> 37:47.600] I think that's very important thing, you know.
[37:48.100 --> 37:52.700] Elections change government but institutions change nations.
[37:52.700 --> 37:53.600] That's really important.
[37:53.600 --> 37:55.000] They actually, Fabians even said that.
[37:55.000 --> 37:58.400] They also said power shifts from representation to management
[37:58.800 --> 37:59.900] and that's where we are.
[38:00.300 --> 38:02.300] No matter, you know, it's left or right, you know, on the
[38:02.300 --> 38:06.400] politics scene, the policy being set forward doesn't make
[38:06.400 --> 38:08.600] a difference who runs back and forth.
[38:08.600 --> 38:11.900] It's all Kabuki theater for us because they're not setting
[38:11.900 --> 38:15.300] the policy someone else's and we identify who they are.
[38:15.500 --> 38:17.200] That's really critically important.
[38:17.500 --> 38:19.200] So it's all a big game in front of us.
[38:19.200 --> 38:22.300] But we have to identify really who they are what's happening
[38:22.300 --> 38:25.700] and that's all part of what we do educate people making
[38:25.700 --> 38:26.100] aware.
[38:26.100 --> 38:27.600] There's more of us than them.
[38:28.500 --> 38:31.200] But our job is to wake people up and sometimes they don't
[38:31.200 --> 38:32.500] want to they want to hear about it.
[38:32.500 --> 38:35.200] You know, our job is to wake people up and tell them really
[38:35.200 --> 38:38.300] what's going on much like the story gave to the UK folks
[38:38.300 --> 38:39.400] about the Fabians.
[38:39.900 --> 38:42.600] I said look they're destroying your country on plan.
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[40:23.900 --> 40:25.800] That's why you know, I question you.
[40:25.800 --> 40:28.500] So do they still have a Fabian Society people belong
[40:28.500 --> 40:31.700] to because typically these things are done in secret,
[40:31.700 --> 40:34.400] you know, or quietly so you have secret societies, you
[40:34.400 --> 40:36.700] know things like the Masons or whatever, but you know,
[40:36.700 --> 40:39.500] people will be members of this but I don't think do we
[40:39.500 --> 40:41.800] have a Fabian Society that you have politicians that
[40:41.800 --> 40:43.400] are part of here in the u.s.
[40:43.400 --> 40:47.900] Or is it mainly the CFR that you'll see mostly the CFR?
[40:48.000 --> 40:49.900] Yeah, yeah, it's exactly what's it.
[40:49.900 --> 40:52.900] You know, it's a it's a it's more what's a partner of
[40:52.900 --> 40:55.900] with the Fabian so back to Cecil Rhodes and Lord
[40:55.900 --> 40:59.400] Milner and and you know, Woodrow Wilson took command
[40:59.400 --> 40:59.800] of house.
[40:59.800 --> 41:01.800] They had this thing called the inquiry back in the
[41:01.800 --> 41:04.500] 1900s or so and they they formed this group and they
[41:04.500 --> 41:06.800] want the United States and Council for Relations
[41:06.800 --> 41:09.400] was born in 1921 and they're going to set foreign
[41:09.400 --> 41:12.500] policy up mark through through David Rockefeller.
[41:12.500 --> 41:15.700] And today you have members of the cabinet 40 50%
[41:15.700 --> 41:18.300] of the people in presidential cabinets were part of
[41:18.300 --> 41:22.100] the CFR had Clinton Eisenhower all those guys were
[41:22.100 --> 41:23.200] all involved in the CFR.
[41:23.200 --> 41:24.700] They knew exactly what was going on.
[41:24.700 --> 41:28.100] So they were tearing the water for the CFR Policy
[41:28.100 --> 41:30.100] Group and that's exactly what goes on.
[41:30.100 --> 41:34.900] So was all it look good, you know, but reality is one
[41:34.900 --> 41:37.700] of the stories goes this way, you know, every every
[41:37.700 --> 41:39.400] year every year of several years.
[41:39.400 --> 41:40.800] We have an election.
[41:40.800 --> 41:42.800] It's like when you're in high school, you know, the
[41:42.800 --> 41:44.800] rummage president of the Student Council remember
[41:44.800 --> 41:48.100] those back in high school and you know, contest.
[41:48.100 --> 41:49.100] Yeah, yeah.
[41:49.100 --> 41:51.500] And by the way, I'm going to have longer lunch hours
[41:51.500 --> 41:53.700] or to have less homework, right?
[41:53.700 --> 41:55.400] And all of a sudden they get elected and they're
[41:55.400 --> 41:56.800] like who's running the show?
[41:56.800 --> 41:59.200] The superintendent of the principal high school
[41:59.200 --> 42:00.300] never happened.
[42:00.300 --> 42:00.800] And that's it.
[42:00.800 --> 42:01.800] Sorry with the CFR.
[42:01.800 --> 42:04.500] We have a beauty contest, which is a public, you know,
[42:04.500 --> 42:07.300] either presidential election or congressional.
[42:07.300 --> 42:09.400] And then who's running a show behind the scenes?
[42:09.400 --> 42:12.900] It's really it's really those groups, those unelected
[42:12.900 --> 42:16.300] bureaucratic officials are unelected divide and we
[42:16.300 --> 42:17.300] expose what they are.
[42:17.300 --> 42:21.100] We have that book called The Shadows of Power, another
[42:21.100 --> 42:24.100] book that we published years ago called The Shadows
[42:24.100 --> 42:28.200] of Power exposes the Council on Foreign Relations
[42:28.200 --> 42:32.100] War 1, World War 2, Korea and Vietnam and how they
[42:32.100 --> 42:35.400] all morphed into all part of the plan.
[42:35.400 --> 42:36.800] That's called The Shadows of Power.
[42:36.800 --> 42:37.700] So we know we did.
[42:37.700 --> 42:40.300] So the Fabians is freeways about the Fabians.
[42:40.300 --> 42:43.900] The Shadows of Power is about the Council on Formulations.
[42:43.900 --> 42:46.900] And once people look at history, they get pretty angry
[42:46.900 --> 42:49.600] because they know it's all been a theater for not
[42:49.600 --> 42:51.200] for us, but for for them.
[42:51.200 --> 42:53.900] Yeah, and they play the game to make it look like
[42:53.900 --> 42:55.400] you're running the show, but you're not.
[42:55.400 --> 42:58.200] You're just a victim of the globalist plan.
[42:58.200 --> 42:58.900] I agree.
[42:58.900 --> 43:01.100] And I when I think of the John Burr Society, you
[43:01.100 --> 43:04.300] guys have done a great job of educating people about
[43:04.300 --> 43:06.700] the Council on Foreign Relations, the CFR stuff.
[43:06.700 --> 43:09.900] And yet we still have these people run for office.
[43:09.900 --> 43:13.500] And I think you'll see them proudly list that as part
[43:13.500 --> 43:16.100] of their CV, you know, that yeah, a member of the
[43:16.100 --> 43:17.300] Council on Foreign Relations.
[43:17.300 --> 43:19.700] And it surprises me.
[43:19.700 --> 43:22.800] It's like, yeah, I'm part of this satanic group over
[43:22.800 --> 43:27.000] here, but it's, you know, they see it as a, you know,
[43:27.100 --> 43:32.400] because it really does have a lot of panache or whatever
[43:32.400 --> 43:35.800] or clout in Washington to be a member of that club.
[43:35.800 --> 43:37.400] And they're proud of it.
[43:37.400 --> 43:39.300] And we need to call them out on it.
[43:39.300 --> 43:41.300] We need to understand the history of it.
[43:41.300 --> 43:44.900] We need to understand really just how evil the actions
[43:44.900 --> 43:46.700] have been and how that has really been there.
[43:46.700 --> 43:49.600] So I guess in the UK, they still have people who are part
[43:49.600 --> 43:50.900] of the Fabian Society.
[43:50.900 --> 43:54.200] But here you'll see it in the CFR and they'll be doing
[43:54.200 --> 43:55.200] the same type of thing.
[43:55.300 --> 43:56.700] Yeah, Bill Clinton was a member.
[43:56.700 --> 43:58.200] Martin Albrey was a member.
[43:58.200 --> 43:59.500] Robert Rubin was a member.
[43:59.500 --> 44:02.400] Ben Cohen, Larry Summers, George W.
[44:02.400 --> 44:03.300] Bush was going on.
[44:03.300 --> 44:06.100] Leah Rice, Colin Power, Robert Gates, Henry Paulson,
[44:06.100 --> 44:08.900] Barack Obama was president, describe a candidate to be
[44:08.900 --> 44:12.000] Gaithered, Susan Rice, you know, John Bolton,
[44:12.000 --> 44:14.100] Henry McMaster and Mike Pompeo.
[44:14.100 --> 44:15.300] I don't know why I want you.
[44:15.300 --> 44:16.900] I see what's going on here.
[44:16.900 --> 44:20.400] So they're there in strategic locations to monitor
[44:20.400 --> 44:22.500] and steer public policy.
[44:22.500 --> 44:24.300] That's what it's going on.
[44:24.300 --> 44:26.900] So when you see this and we hear the song,
[44:26.900 --> 44:29.800] Garza was Democrat, Republican, you get to the same place
[44:29.800 --> 44:30.700] all the time.
[44:30.700 --> 44:31.600] That's right.
[44:31.600 --> 44:32.500] That's the key.
[44:32.500 --> 44:34.900] And I remember when Reagan got elected, people were excited.
[44:34.900 --> 44:36.600] Oh look, he's not the CFR, you know.
[44:36.600 --> 44:39.100] And I can't remember the last time we had a president
[44:39.100 --> 44:40.000] that wasn't CFR.
[44:40.000 --> 44:42.900] And yet what he did was he put CFR people in all the
[44:42.900 --> 44:45.400] different positions around him, you know.
[44:45.400 --> 44:46.200] That's exactly.
[44:46.200 --> 44:48.500] Well, Trump is not a member of the CFR, I can tell you that.
[44:48.500 --> 44:49.700] So he's not a member.
[44:49.700 --> 44:51.600] But he's got people around to make sure he doesn't get too
[44:51.600 --> 44:54.100] far off the script.
[44:54.100 --> 44:55.000] Although he does.
[44:55.000 --> 44:55.500] That's right.
[44:55.500 --> 44:56.800] I mean, that's right.
[44:56.800 --> 44:59.000] Yeah, I think with Trump, it's really as much as anything
[44:59.000 --> 45:01.100] it's the technocracy because these guys are writing
[45:01.100 --> 45:02.700] the checks there.
[45:02.700 --> 45:05.600] I'm very concerned that, you know, we all know now what
[45:05.600 --> 45:08.000] the CBDC is.
[45:08.000 --> 45:13.000] And yet I think the same thing can be accomplished
[45:13.000 --> 45:15.700] with a stable coin and they can make a lot of money
[45:15.700 --> 45:18.300] putting the stable coin out there at the same time.
[45:18.300 --> 45:20.300] So it's one way they can get rich.
[45:20.300 --> 45:22.600] They can get rich off of that or they can't get rich off
[45:22.600 --> 45:23.900] of the CBDC.
[45:23.900 --> 45:26.700] And since everybody's kind of wise to the game of the CBDC,
[45:26.700 --> 45:29.200] they don't realize that stable coin is still going to have
[45:29.200 --> 45:32.600] those capabilities to be able to turn off your ability
[45:32.600 --> 45:35.800] to trade and do other things like that.
[45:35.800 --> 45:37.700] Tell us a little bit about the John Burr Society.
[45:37.700 --> 45:40.400] I mean, I know you guys have had a lot of fights and that
[45:40.400 --> 45:43.500] have you been hit with any kind of debanking or stuff
[45:43.500 --> 45:43.800] like that?
[45:43.800 --> 45:46.800] Because I mean, I have and I've been kicked off of PayPal
[45:46.800 --> 45:51.600] and Venmo and other formats like that because of things
[45:51.600 --> 45:54.900] that I was saying in 2020 about the lockdown and the pandemic
[45:54.900 --> 45:58.300] and the vaccine climate change and all the rest of stuff.
[45:58.300 --> 46:01.800] Are you seeing that kind of debanking and de-platforming
[46:01.800 --> 46:03.200] in various places?
[46:03.200 --> 46:07.800] Yeah, well, sometimes we say that we get to too much
[46:07.800 --> 46:08.700] of truth.
[46:08.700 --> 46:11.000] YouTube will take us down for a while or something like that
[46:11.000 --> 46:13.600] and then we'll come back on again.
[46:13.600 --> 46:16.300] You know, we don't have that issue with banking per se,
[46:16.300 --> 46:19.500] but they ignore us because they don't need attention.
[46:19.500 --> 46:21.900] When we get attacked, you know, we start to grow.
[46:21.900 --> 46:24.500] So they try to pretend we don't exist any longer.
[46:24.500 --> 46:26.900] Yeah, that's when I first learned of the John Burr Society
[46:26.900 --> 46:29.400] was when William F. Buckley was on a tear.
[46:29.400 --> 46:30.000] Oh, yeah, yeah.
[46:30.000 --> 46:32.100] An extra review to come after you guys.
[46:32.100 --> 46:34.200] Well, I think I agree with these guys and I'm with Buckley.
[46:34.200 --> 46:36.800] So he's a CFR member, by the way.
[46:36.800 --> 46:41.600] Yeah, probably CIA as well.
[46:41.600 --> 46:45.300] So Gullum Bones, you know, from Yale, you know, I can go on.
[46:45.300 --> 46:46.100] He was a good guy, right?
[46:46.100 --> 46:46.700] Yeah, sure.
[46:46.700 --> 46:48.400] You know, his organization exists today.
[46:48.900 --> 46:51.000] Don't listen to those guys over there.
[46:51.000 --> 46:52.400] You know, yeah, okay.
[46:52.400 --> 46:54.700] Yeah, that's why he was a good guy.
[46:54.700 --> 46:55.900] That's why NPR had him on.
[46:55.900 --> 46:56.400] That's right.
[46:56.400 --> 46:58.100] Yeah, right.
[46:58.100 --> 47:00.900] People go, we wrote a book about that called The Pied Piper
[47:00.900 --> 47:02.300] of the Establishment.
[47:02.300 --> 47:05.000] We wrote that book, Jack McMaster, past president.
[47:05.000 --> 47:06.100] You may have known him.
[47:06.100 --> 47:08.700] He wrote the book about Buckley and he was, you know,
[47:08.700 --> 47:12.000] he was all put together to make sure that he steers
[47:12.000 --> 47:15.600] the conservative movement, their direction of the CFR
[47:15.600 --> 47:17.200] in which he was a member of the CFR.
[47:17.200 --> 47:20.400] So, you know, it's like, you know, as I said, it's not
[47:20.400 --> 47:23.200] matter who, it's all controlled, you know, and he was
[47:23.200 --> 47:24.200] controlled opposition.
[47:24.200 --> 47:26.000] He's a very poster child for that, isn't he?
[47:26.000 --> 47:26.600] Controlled opposition.
[47:26.600 --> 47:27.600] Absolutely correct.
[47:27.600 --> 47:30.000] And people still hold him up as he was some, you know,
[47:30.000 --> 47:31.000] super conservative.
[47:31.000 --> 47:31.400] He was not.
[47:31.400 --> 47:34.200] Yeah, I remember, you know, wrestling ball really
[47:34.200 --> 47:35.000] ionized him.
[47:36.200 --> 47:38.800] I was like, man, you don't realize who this guy is?
[47:38.800 --> 47:40.100] That's kind of telling.
[47:40.100 --> 47:45.100] But anyway, it's a, it really is a great organization
[47:45.100 --> 47:47.600] and really do appreciate what you guys do.
[47:47.600 --> 47:52.500] And again, the, you know, the quiet ideology reshaping
[47:52.500 --> 47:57.300] policy from London parlors to DC Power, is that a book
[47:57.300 --> 47:58.600] or is that an article?
[47:58.600 --> 48:02.300] Because that's how I found out about, about you.
[48:02.300 --> 48:04.500] It sounds like the Fabian Freeway.
[48:04.500 --> 48:05.500] That's what it sounds like.
[48:05.500 --> 48:07.500] Okay, that's the subtitle of Fabian Freeway.
[48:07.500 --> 48:10.400] The JBS has been around for a long time.
[48:10.400 --> 48:11.900] We have area chapters.
[48:12.100 --> 48:14.700] We educate people on the voting record of their
[48:14.700 --> 48:15.600] representatives.
[48:15.600 --> 48:18.700] And so we try to encourage people to be active
[48:18.700 --> 48:20.600] participants in the process.
[48:20.600 --> 48:23.400] How do you change your representative?
[48:23.400 --> 48:25.900] David is if you don't understand the Constitution
[48:25.900 --> 48:28.500] or least go visit them, say, why did you vote on
[48:28.500 --> 48:29.300] constitutionally?
[48:29.300 --> 48:31.000] So we have this thing called the scorecard.
[48:31.000 --> 48:34.200] We print it out every quarter and it talks about
[48:34.200 --> 48:35.100] the voting record.
[48:35.100 --> 48:38.200] Constitutionally, we pick them on Congress, you know,
[48:38.200 --> 48:41.000] Senate as well as the House where they are.
[48:41.100 --> 48:43.100] So people know if they're voting in Constitution
[48:43.100 --> 48:45.700] or not, and it's our personal responsibility as
[48:45.700 --> 48:47.900] Americans to uphold.
[48:47.900 --> 48:51.200] Remember, their representatives work for us and
[48:51.200 --> 48:53.300] say, hey, why are you voting this way?
[48:53.300 --> 48:54.900] And would they have not?
[48:54.900 --> 48:56.600] I mean, representative called me and said no one
[48:56.600 --> 49:00.300] ever very rarely calls me on the phone and talks
[49:00.300 --> 49:02.000] about anything.
[49:02.000 --> 49:05.300] And so we can't, it's not, you know, we can't sit
[49:05.300 --> 49:08.100] back and I said in one day we have a handsome young
[49:08.100 --> 49:09.800] conservative show up in Congress.
[49:09.800 --> 49:11.200] It doesn't happen that way.
[49:11.200 --> 49:16.000] Yeah, so my biggest goal is fight complacency in
[49:16.000 --> 49:19.800] Americans and it's life is too good.
[49:19.800 --> 49:22.200] And even though the economics today is hurting
[49:22.200 --> 49:25.100] them now, they're listening, but life is too
[49:25.100 --> 49:27.400] good and they have to, you know, we have to get
[49:27.400 --> 49:30.700] behind and spend a little time protecting our
[49:30.700 --> 49:32.500] sovereignty and our freedoms.
[49:32.500 --> 49:35.200] But we have to know who we are first.
[49:35.200 --> 49:36.400] And that's what we're trying to teach.
[49:36.400 --> 49:38.000] American is principles.
[49:38.000 --> 49:40.700] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson and I want you to pause what
[49:40.700 --> 49:42.400] you're doing for just one minute.
[49:42.400 --> 49:45.200] And I want you to hear about Alejandra.
[49:45.200 --> 49:47.900] She lives in a remote community with very few
[49:47.900 --> 49:51.200] resources and little to no health care.
[49:51.200 --> 49:54.200] So when Alejandra gets sick, her parents have no
[49:54.200 --> 49:58.300] real options, no doctors in their community and no
[49:58.300 --> 50:00.900] money for real medical care.
[50:00.900 --> 50:03.700] By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[50:03.700 --> 50:07.300] She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom, I
[50:07.300 --> 50:09.800] can't take the pain anymore.
[50:09.800 --> 50:11.600] I can't keep going.
[50:11.600 --> 50:14.900] Her parents drove hours to find a doctor who tried
[50:14.900 --> 50:18.200] everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[50:18.200 --> 50:21.700] And that was impossible for her family to afford.
[50:21.700 --> 50:25.500] And that is when Compassion International stepped in.
[50:25.500 --> 50:28.900] Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated and
[50:28.900 --> 50:31.800] against all odds, she survived.
[50:31.800 --> 50:35.800] She lived because someone just like you took action.
[50:35.800 --> 50:38.500] Right now, unfortunately, there are children just
[50:38.500 --> 50:42.000] like Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like
[50:42.000 --> 50:43.400] you steps in.
[50:43.400 --> 50:46.000] Compassion International partners with local
[50:46.000 --> 50:49.000] churches, providing children with the support
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[51:38.000 --> 51:40.000] And hold up representatives who work for us
[51:40.000 --> 51:41.600] to make sure that happens.
[51:41.600 --> 51:42.100] I agree.
[51:42.100 --> 51:42.800] Yeah.
[51:42.800 --> 51:44.600] And that's what I liked about the John Burr Society
[51:44.600 --> 51:48.400] was the focus on local activism as well.
[51:48.400 --> 51:50.400] And you know, knowing what is happening locally
[51:50.400 --> 51:52.300] in your state as well.
[51:52.300 --> 51:54.200] And I've seen what you're talking about in terms
[51:54.200 --> 51:57.500] of representatives who say nobody ever calls me.
[51:57.500 --> 51:58.600] I saw the power of that.
[51:58.600 --> 52:00.000] And I've talked about this on the program.
[52:00.000 --> 52:02.200] When I lived in North Carolina, I was involved
[52:02.200 --> 52:03.200] with homeschooling.
[52:03.200 --> 52:07.200] And at that point in time, all of North Carolina's
[52:07.200 --> 52:11.100] government was Democrat, Democrat House and Senate
[52:11.100 --> 52:12.800] as well as the governor and all the rest of stuff.
[52:12.800 --> 52:16.400] So they decided the teachers unions decided
[52:16.400 --> 52:18.100] that they were going to shut down homeschooling.
[52:18.100 --> 52:19.700] And it looked like they were going to be able to do
[52:19.700 --> 52:24.700] it because it was all Democrats and an active
[52:24.700 --> 52:27.700] minority of homeschoolers, which was really small
[52:27.700 --> 52:28.200] at the time.
[52:28.200 --> 52:30.300] There wasn't a lot of people homeschooling.
[52:30.300 --> 52:32.500] There's so many more who are doing it today.
[52:32.500 --> 52:34.600] But everybody got actively involved and started
[52:34.600 --> 52:37.500] writing and it made them look so much bigger
[52:37.500 --> 52:40.300] than they actually were and actually beat down
[52:40.300 --> 52:43.100] the teachers unions in a Democrat state that
[52:43.100 --> 52:45.500] were going to try to regulate homeschooling
[52:45.500 --> 52:47.300] out of existence.
[52:47.300 --> 52:50.200] And so that is a was a very important firsthand
[52:50.200 --> 52:51.400] lesson to learn.
[52:51.400 --> 52:52.900] But it's difficult to get people to do that.
[52:52.900 --> 52:54.500] And that's one of the things that John Burr Society
[52:54.500 --> 52:58.000] does I think is excellent, which is to educate
[52:58.000 --> 53:00.700] each other about what is happening locally within
[53:00.700 --> 53:03.600] your state and and how you can take action
[53:03.600 --> 53:04.900] at a local level.
[53:04.900 --> 53:08.900] I remember my probably my earliest memory of
[53:08.900 --> 53:10.700] John Burr Society was to support your local
[53:10.700 --> 53:13.000] sheriff stuff being concerned about the
[53:13.000 --> 53:15.700] federalization and of the police.
[53:15.700 --> 53:19.400] And that is something that is now really escalating.
[53:19.400 --> 53:20.300] Isn't it?
[53:20.300 --> 53:21.800] Yeah, yeah, we actually have it.
[53:21.800 --> 53:22.600] We have that group.
[53:22.600 --> 53:25.100] It still exists called support your local police.
[53:25.100 --> 53:26.300] We want to keep them independent.
[53:26.300 --> 53:27.100] I've federalized.
[53:27.100 --> 53:27.700] We have a group.
[53:27.700 --> 53:30.500] We have an affiliate not for profit called
[53:30.500 --> 53:32.100] support your local police.
[53:32.100 --> 53:34.800] And we also have a you mentioned school with
[53:34.800 --> 53:35.900] the homeschool.
[53:35.900 --> 53:38.000] We've been existing for 15 years called the
[53:38.000 --> 53:39.900] Freedom Project Academy.
[53:39.900 --> 53:41.900] It goes from kindergarten to high school.
[53:41.900 --> 53:44.900] We have live, you know, education, of course,
[53:44.900 --> 53:48.900] online or you can buy a recorded version of it.
[53:48.900 --> 53:49.800] And that's been around.
[53:49.800 --> 53:53.100] So we're educating all over the world.
[53:53.100 --> 53:56.100] Adults are having their children sign up to
[53:56.200 --> 53:58.100] learn really Americanism.
[53:58.100 --> 54:03.700] We are not a fabricated history.
[54:03.700 --> 54:05.900] And we teach you how to kids how to write cursive
[54:05.900 --> 54:07.400] and do math or read books.
[54:07.400 --> 54:08.700] How about that for a change?
[54:08.700 --> 54:11.500] And so we, you know, it hasn't happened in a
[54:11.500 --> 54:12.000] public school.
[54:12.000 --> 54:13.000] I can tell you that.
[54:13.000 --> 54:16.500] And we spent more time in education than social
[54:16.500 --> 54:17.600] emotional learning.
[54:17.600 --> 54:19.100] But the thing is, and it goes, you mentioned
[54:19.100 --> 54:20.800] Allison, we wrote a lot of books about that.
[54:20.800 --> 54:22.900] But the thing is, is that so we look at education
[54:22.900 --> 54:26.200] our children, our adults bring the bring it to
[54:26.200 --> 54:28.900] view really who we are, what we're all about
[54:28.900 --> 54:31.500] because we've been indoctrinated and we know
[54:31.500 --> 54:33.600] that brainwashing has existed through all the
[54:33.600 --> 54:34.300] mass media.
[54:34.300 --> 54:37.300] David, all the mass media is, you know, very
[54:37.300 --> 54:38.700] well, because you're in the media business.
[54:38.700 --> 54:40.100] That's all controlled by the Council on
[54:40.100 --> 54:40.900] Formulations.
[54:40.900 --> 54:42.700] Every one of the New York Times, the other
[54:42.700 --> 54:45.400] networks, including Fox News, is all controlled
[54:45.400 --> 54:47.300] media and they all say the same thing.
[54:47.300 --> 54:48.400] Same deal.
[54:48.400 --> 54:50.200] So guess what?
[54:50.200 --> 54:51.300] That's the only thing you hear.
[54:51.300 --> 54:52.700] That's the only thing you believe.
[54:52.700 --> 54:54.300] So we said, no, time out.
[54:54.300 --> 54:56.500] Let's talk about reality here.
[54:56.500 --> 54:58.500] And it's hard for some people to swallow.
[54:58.500 --> 55:01.300] But once you've been red-pilled, all of a
[55:01.300 --> 55:02.400] sudden the world changes.
[55:02.400 --> 55:05.000] Like now I see what's going on here.
[55:05.000 --> 55:06.900] So that's our job in the Birch Society.
[55:06.900 --> 55:08.700] We deal with kids with school.
[55:08.700 --> 55:10.100] You're right about the law enforcement.
[55:10.100 --> 55:11.500] We want to keep them independent.
[55:11.500 --> 55:12.700] We teach the Constitution.
[55:12.700 --> 55:14.400] We get people involved.
[55:14.400 --> 55:15.500] It's about education.
[55:15.500 --> 55:17.200] Get people activated and involved.
[55:17.200 --> 55:18.700] That's really important.
[55:18.700 --> 55:19.500] I absolutely agree.
[55:19.500 --> 55:20.600] Get activated and involved.
[55:20.700 --> 55:23.300] And that's how we save our country as well as
[55:23.300 --> 55:24.800] the people over in England.
[55:24.800 --> 55:26.900] They see the problem now because they're
[55:26.900 --> 55:29.200] watching their country be destroyed.
[55:29.200 --> 55:31.000] And I mentioned the Fabians when we first
[55:31.000 --> 55:33.400] came on because that's coming to tractions
[55:33.400 --> 55:34.800] for the United States.
[55:34.800 --> 55:36.800] What you see in Europe is coming to tractions
[55:36.800 --> 55:37.400] for here.
[55:37.400 --> 55:37.800] Oh, yeah.
[55:37.800 --> 55:39.500] Just delayed just a little bit.
[55:39.500 --> 55:40.000] Yeah.
[55:40.000 --> 55:41.100] It's a warning.
[55:41.100 --> 55:42.000] That's right.
[55:42.000 --> 55:42.300] Yeah.
[55:42.300 --> 55:44.500] And so, you know, getting back to the
[55:44.500 --> 55:45.900] federalization of the police, you know, we
[55:45.900 --> 55:50.000] look at these things and we say, OK, even if
[55:50.000 --> 55:51.900] you like the guy who's doing it, and even
[55:51.900 --> 55:53.900] if you agree with the stated goal, you have
[55:53.900 --> 55:55.900] to look at this and say, yeah, but that
[55:55.900 --> 55:58.400] policy is going to establish a precedent
[55:58.400 --> 56:01.500] of the federalization of law enforcement.
[56:01.500 --> 56:03.300] And so I know where that leads, right?
[56:03.300 --> 56:05.300] So we pull this back.
[56:05.300 --> 56:08.500] OK, so let's walk this back and we have
[56:08.500 --> 56:09.200] to oppose this.
[56:09.200 --> 56:12.000] Even if we agree with the stated purpose,
[56:12.000 --> 56:13.300] that's the wrong way to do it.
[56:13.300 --> 56:17.700] And it is so important that we not sacrifice
[56:17.700 --> 56:23.100] the, you know, that the means does not,
[56:23.100 --> 56:24.900] it's not just that the end does not justify
[56:24.900 --> 56:25.700] the means.
[56:25.700 --> 56:27.800] That's how these people always get us there.
[56:27.800 --> 56:29.900] And it's understanding those principles
[56:29.900 --> 56:32.100] and what America is about, understanding
[56:32.100 --> 56:33.800] the Constitution and what that's about
[56:33.800 --> 56:36.200] and why those things are there, those
[56:36.200 --> 56:39.000] important safeguards against tyranny and
[56:39.000 --> 56:41.400] understand that if we wipe those things away
[56:41.400 --> 56:44.000] because it's going to make it more expedient
[56:44.000 --> 56:46.600] for us to achieve this particular policy
[56:46.600 --> 56:49.100] goal, we are going to pay the price
[56:49.100 --> 56:50.700] in the long run, aren't we?
[56:50.700 --> 56:52.300] The Nationalized Police Force is one of
[56:52.300 --> 56:54.700] Marx's, one of Karl Marx's plans, and so
[56:54.700 --> 56:56.900] that's why we're trying to avoid keeping
[56:56.900 --> 56:58.600] them local and independent.
[56:58.600 --> 57:00.500] Your sheriff is a very important person
[57:00.500 --> 57:02.900] in your county, very important person.
[57:02.900 --> 57:05.100] And I always, I encourage people to know
[57:05.100 --> 57:07.900] who the sheriff is and talk to them and
[57:07.900 --> 57:09.900] making sure that you understand and they
[57:10.000 --> 57:11.700] understand about America's principles
[57:11.700 --> 57:13.000] and our rights.
[57:13.000 --> 57:14.400] And they have, you have to know who the
[57:14.400 --> 57:16.800] sheriff is so they know who you are,
[57:16.800 --> 57:19.400] much like legislators and state legislators.
[57:19.400 --> 57:22.800] You know, go back to our basics of our country.
[57:22.800 --> 57:25.200] Our United States were formed as independent
[57:25.200 --> 57:27.800] states, sovereign states.
[57:27.800 --> 57:29.400] And over a period of time, David, that
[57:29.400 --> 57:31.900] we've given, the states have given power
[57:31.900 --> 57:34.000] from themselves to the federal government.
[57:34.000 --> 57:36.300] That's not the way it was supposed to operate.
[57:36.300 --> 57:37.600] The government's supposed to defend us
[57:37.700 --> 57:41.100] against public and domestic enemies, you know?
[57:41.100 --> 57:42.700] And that's very limited powers.
[57:42.700 --> 57:44.600] Look at Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution.
[57:44.600 --> 57:47.100] Very limited powers Congress has, right?
[57:47.100 --> 57:48.900] And government, and so we have actually
[57:48.900 --> 57:51.300] given more power to the federal government
[57:51.300 --> 57:54.100] why it's all upside-side and distorted today.
[57:54.100 --> 57:56.200] So we spend time with our local legislators
[57:56.200 --> 57:58.600] in each state to make sure they withhold
[57:58.600 --> 58:00.500] the constitutional responsibility.
[58:00.500 --> 58:02.900] Each state has a constitution.
[58:02.900 --> 58:04.700] The word democracy does not exist.
[58:04.700 --> 58:06.200] It's always a republic.
[58:06.200 --> 58:07.600] That's another thing we teach people.
[58:07.600 --> 58:09.700] That word does not appear in our constitution
[58:09.700 --> 58:11.200] or any state constitution.
[58:11.200 --> 58:12.900] And people don't even know that.
[58:12.900 --> 58:16.000] And I said, you have to understand states are sovereign.
[58:16.000 --> 58:18.700] Make sure you make, this is where it begins.
[58:18.700 --> 58:20.500] So if you look at our history,
[58:20.500 --> 58:23.300] it was done with that phenomenal idea
[58:23.300 --> 58:25.000] that keep them sovereign, independent states.
[58:25.000 --> 58:27.800] So those basic things I just said to you,
[58:27.800 --> 58:31.100] most Americans I talk to do not understand that.
[58:31.100 --> 58:32.200] They don't understand that at all.
[58:32.200 --> 58:34.200] That's right, absolutely do not.
[58:34.200 --> 58:38.500] And it's so important that we understand
[58:38.500 --> 58:40.500] foundational principles and why these things
[58:40.500 --> 58:43.800] were set up the way they were actually is a good plan.
[58:43.800 --> 58:47.400] Even though the constitution has been completely violated,
[58:47.400 --> 58:49.200] it's still a good plan and we should try it someday
[58:49.200 --> 58:50.500] in our lifetime, I think.
[58:51.500 --> 58:53.200] It's like the 10 commandments,
[58:53.200 --> 58:54.700] not the 10 suggestions.
[58:54.700 --> 58:56.100] That's right, that's right.
[58:56.100 --> 58:58.100] And the constitution, you have to know it
[58:58.100 --> 59:00.100] before you can uphold it.
[59:00.100 --> 59:03.400] And everybody, pretty much whether they're local or state
[59:03.700 --> 59:06.800] especially federal, they take an oath to the constitution
[59:06.800 --> 59:08.800] as a requirement of their authority.
[59:08.800 --> 59:10.900] And so when they violate that,
[59:10.900 --> 59:12.800] they no longer have any legitimate authority
[59:12.800 --> 59:14.600] but they do have a lot of power.
[59:14.600 --> 59:16.200] And so we need to understand
[59:16.200 --> 59:18.000] that we can have power collectively.
[59:18.000 --> 59:19.300] And that's one of the things I think
[59:19.300 --> 59:21.900] the John Birch Society does bring to the table.
[59:21.900 --> 59:23.200] Thank you so much for joining us.
[59:23.200 --> 59:26.200] It's been a fascinating discussion, Mr. Morrow.
[59:26.200 --> 59:27.900] Wayne Morrow. Thank you.
[59:27.900 --> 59:31.100] Wayne Morrow, the CEO of the John Birch Society.
[59:31.100 --> 59:32.500] Always great talking to you guys.
[59:32.500 --> 59:33.800] We're gonna take a quick break, folks.
[59:33.800 --> 59:34.800] And we'll be right back.
[59:34.800 --> 59:36.000] We're gonna talk a little bit about what's going on
[59:36.000 --> 59:38.200] with cars here in just a second.
[59:38.200 --> 59:39.500] So we'll be right back.
[59:39.500 --> 59:40.800] Stay with us.
[01:00:41.100 --> 01:00:42.300] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson.
[01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:44.500] And I want you to pause what you're doing
[01:00:44.500 --> 01:00:45.500] for just one minute.
[01:00:45.500 --> 01:00:49.900] And I want you to hear about love, generosity and compassion.
[01:00:49.900 --> 01:00:53.100] We say those words all the time and they sound good.
[01:00:53.100 --> 01:00:54.000] They feel good.
[01:00:54.000 --> 01:00:55.500] But here's the truth.
[01:00:55.500 --> 01:00:57.600] Those words don't mean anything
[01:00:57.600 --> 01:00:59.800] unless they turn into action.
[01:00:59.800 --> 01:01:01.900] And I want you to pause for a minute
[01:01:01.900 --> 01:01:03.900] and listen to what I'm saying.
[01:01:03.900 --> 01:01:05.700] And I want you to pause for a minute
[01:01:05.700 --> 01:01:06.900] and listen to what I'm saying.
[01:01:06.900 --> 01:01:08.300] And I want you to pause for a minute
[01:01:08.500 --> 01:01:10.800] unless they turn into action.
[01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:14.200] And right now, not later today, not tomorrow,
[01:01:14.200 --> 01:01:18.500] there's a child in the world who doesn't know if they'll eat,
[01:01:18.500 --> 01:01:20.600] if they'll have a chance to learn,
[01:01:20.600 --> 01:01:23.100] or if there's any hope at all.
[01:01:23.100 --> 01:01:27.200] And while we're all busy, life keeps moving forward.
[01:01:27.200 --> 01:01:28.900] But that child is waiting.
[01:01:28.900 --> 01:01:31.000] This is where you come in.
[01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:32.500] With Compassion International,
[01:01:32.500 --> 01:01:35.600] you have the chance to change a child's future.
[01:01:35.800 --> 01:01:38.500] Not just with words, not with promises,
[01:01:38.500 --> 01:01:42.200] but with real help that provides food, education,
[01:01:42.200 --> 01:01:45.100] and hope through local churches
[01:01:45.100 --> 01:01:47.700] and people already in their community.
[01:01:47.700 --> 01:01:50.900] Put your words into action and join me.
[01:01:50.900 --> 01:01:54.900] Introduce a child to a loving Heavenly Father today
[01:01:54.900 --> 01:01:57.000] at Compassion.com.
[01:01:57.000 --> 01:02:00.100] That's Compassion.com.
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[01:03:42.680 --> 01:03:46.800] Welcome back, folks. We got a lot of comments. And Jersey Boy, thank you so much for the
[01:03:46.800 --> 01:03:50.320] support. He says, can you please ask if he's ever heard of William Cooper, who wrote Behold
[01:03:50.320 --> 01:03:51.320] a Pale Horse?
[01:03:51.320 --> 01:03:54.760] I'm sorry. I didn't see that comment in time. I'm sorry.
[01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:59.360] And does he know about Jimmy from Brooklyn, who JBS interviewed, who I'm trying to get
[01:03:59.360 --> 01:04:00.360] on your show?
[01:04:00.360 --> 01:04:04.600] Oh, okay. Well, I'm sorry I missed that. I'm very sorry.
[01:04:04.600 --> 01:04:09.960] Yes, apologies. Owen61, thank you so much for the support. He just says, thank you.
[01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:11.760] Well, thank you, Owen. Appreciate it.
[01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:15.360] Yes, thank you so much. And Jersey Boy, again, says, I remember a few years ago from JBS
[01:04:15.360 --> 01:04:22.000] an email, history of, and I need to, history of Republicans, it was started by a communist.
[01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.680] Does he know what it was? And what does he think of JFK?
[01:04:24.680 --> 01:04:32.680] You know, it's interesting. A book I really enjoyed was an alternative history book by
[01:04:32.680 --> 01:04:38.000] Harry Turledove. He's written a lot of alternative history books. And this one was about the
[01:04:38.000 --> 01:04:43.800] Civil War. It's called How Few Remain. And in it, you know, you may know the history
[01:04:44.760 --> 01:04:52.440] that Antietam, as bloody as the battle was, nearly was, could have been a victory for
[01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:58.760] the South, except that one of the couriers dropped the orders that he was carrying, and
[01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:04.400] they fell into the Union's hands. And so in his book, the guy said, hey, you dropped those
[01:05:04.400 --> 01:05:08.000] orders, better pick those up. Can you imagine what would happen if the other guys got that
[01:05:08.000 --> 01:05:15.000] right? And so that causes an early end to the war. And pretty much all the major figures
[01:05:15.040 --> 01:05:22.040] of both North and South survive. And the causes early end of the war and the South to gain
[01:05:23.360 --> 01:05:30.360] its independence. And in his alternative history, Lincoln is entirely discredited because he
[01:05:31.640 --> 01:05:37.440] lost the war. But then he makes a comeback as this book is picking up a couple of decades
[01:05:37.440 --> 01:05:43.320] on at that point in time. I think he's got Stonewall Jackson as the president of the
[01:05:43.320 --> 01:05:49.600] Confederacy. And Lincoln makes a political comeback as head of the Socialist Party. And
[01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:52.840] that's one of the things that made that book so interesting, was he really did understand
[01:05:52.840 --> 01:05:59.080] these people, what motivated them, and the things behind them. And so yeah, there was
[01:05:59.080 --> 01:06:04.760] an early connection with that. And if you look at, always think about the Pledge of
[01:06:04.760 --> 01:06:09.720] Allegiance that was put in by the Grand Army of the Republic. Most of the veterans, especially
[01:06:09.720 --> 01:06:15.800] if they were well known or successful or played an important part in the war, they got very
[01:06:15.800 --> 01:06:20.400] big positions in the subsequent governments that were there. And the Grand Army of the
[01:06:20.400 --> 01:06:26.920] Republic, which was the organization of Civil War veterans for the North, had a tremendous
[01:06:26.920 --> 01:06:31.660] amount of influence. They were the ones who instituted the Pledge of Allegiance, and it
[01:06:32.140 --> 01:06:38.020] initially did not have under God in it until the mid-1950s. And so the emphasis was on
[01:06:38.020 --> 01:06:47.020] one nation, indivisible, and very harsh with that. And the Pledge was done with one arms
[01:06:47.020 --> 01:06:53.380] extended out, palm down, just like the Nazi salute. They changed it to hand over your
[01:06:53.380 --> 01:07:00.380] heart because of the Nazi salute. But yeah, socialism and a lot of other things were there
[01:07:00.380 --> 01:07:06.420] and as well as the concentration of power and really talking about the destruction of
[01:07:06.420 --> 01:07:12.220] the states as sovereign entities and the understanding that the states had created the federal government,
[01:07:12.220 --> 01:07:16.740] all that stuff disappeared with the Civil War. Go ahead.
[01:07:16.740 --> 01:07:26.700] We have username 0123456789, AI will be kosher, and DEI. Nibuduru2029 says, we have the best
[01:07:26.700 --> 01:07:32.540] government money can buy. And that's a quote from Mark Twain. And they spend more and
[01:07:32.540 --> 01:07:40.220] more every single day. Pezzonovante, 1776. Ask the guest his take on war, Gaza, Trump's
[01:07:40.220 --> 01:07:42.940] anti-Semitism, Tsar, and the Heritage Foundation's Project Estuary.
[01:07:42.940 --> 01:07:45.060] I apologize, I didn't see that.
[01:07:45.060 --> 01:07:47.060] The conversation was too good.
[01:07:47.060 --> 01:07:48.060] Sorry.
[01:07:48.060 --> 01:07:52.860] Garth Goldsmith says, curiously, people often claim Marx was focused solely on economics,
[01:07:52.860 --> 01:07:56.300] but his entire worldview was cultural, based on envy and hate.
[01:07:56.300 --> 01:08:01.660] Yeah. Conflict, yeah. Like going in dialectically. That's why, you know, we have to look at the
[01:08:01.660 --> 01:08:06.860] different ways that they divide us. You know, it was very explicit what Bill Ayers and Bernadine
[01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:14.380] Dorn, the weathermen, wanted to do. They wouldn't have a race war. Marx focused, the thing about
[01:08:14.380 --> 01:08:21.060] economics was there, but that was really a class struggle, right? And the economics was
[01:08:21.060 --> 01:08:26.700] a part of that class struggle. But it's always about dividing us. And that's why he said,
[01:08:26.700 --> 01:08:30.860] you know, we have to be very careful about the Republican versus Democrat thing. Any
[01:08:30.860 --> 01:08:36.740] kind of division that they can use like that. And when we attach ourselves to a different
[01:08:36.740 --> 01:08:43.020] ethnic group or a different political group, these different types of things, those attachments
[01:08:43.020 --> 01:08:48.540] draw us away from the principles that can be the bulwark against this kind of socialist
[01:08:48.540 --> 01:08:50.540] hell that they want to put us in.
[01:08:50.780 --> 01:08:55.860] And Mama C 1996 says, I never learned so much as when I was homeschooling my kids.
[01:08:56.340 --> 01:09:01.380] That's right. That's right. That's excellent. And that was the thing that I really missed about
[01:09:01.380 --> 01:09:06.460] it. That was, that was where I put all of my effort before I had the show. As a matter of
[01:09:06.460 --> 01:09:12.820] fact, that was at one point, it was kind of bothering me because I was filling in for Alex
[01:09:12.820 --> 01:09:15.380] at the very beginning. He said, you know, there's gonna be millions of people listening to
[01:09:15.420 --> 01:09:22.420] me. I said, don't tell me that right now. But because I was not very much into public
[01:09:22.420 --> 01:09:26.820] speaking or anything like that. And I said, no, the way I think of this, and that was in
[01:09:26.820 --> 01:09:31.380] his original studio, which was really small and intimate. I said, the way I think of this is
[01:09:31.380 --> 01:09:35.260] I'm talking to the guys over there running the board. I could see them. And I said, I'm
[01:09:35.260 --> 01:09:39.620] just thinking like I'm doing homeschooling with my kids. So I said, don't talk to me about
[01:09:39.620 --> 01:09:44.780] millions of people listening to that'll freeze me up. So that's the way I always looked at
[01:09:44.900 --> 01:09:50.780] it. And it was such a wonderful thing because it gave us an opportunity to go back and look
[01:09:50.780 --> 01:09:57.780] at content that was compelled on us in the schools and to view it in a different way.
[01:09:59.100 --> 01:10:04.460] And that's one of the things I've always said about biology and evolution. You know, when
[01:10:04.460 --> 01:10:10.420] it's taught to us in the schools, it was always dumbed down into skeletons and death, right?
[01:10:10.420 --> 01:10:16.820] For the evolutionists, death is the thing, the engine of creation. For us, it is the
[01:10:16.820 --> 01:10:23.420] giver of life. And we didn't look at comparative anatomy of skeletons. We looked at the unique
[01:10:23.420 --> 01:10:28.260] design of each and every animal. And that was a thing that was so fascinating. So it
[01:10:28.260 --> 01:10:32.300] really is a blessing and an opportunity. I hope if you have the opportunity, you take
[01:10:32.300 --> 01:10:34.780] that to homeschool your kids. Have a good day. Thank you.
[01:10:34.780 --> 01:10:38.340] You can take a photo on a phone. There is machine learning in the background.
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[01:10:41.620 --> 01:10:46.580] In the metaverse, we're going to need AI that is builder on helping people navigate virtual
[01:10:46.580 --> 01:10:50.980] worlds as well as our physical world with augmented reality.
[01:10:50.980 --> 01:10:56.820] Augmented reality is a profound technology. It includes your position in 3D space, your
[01:10:56.820 --> 01:11:03.820] body language, facial gestures. We invented new intimate ways to connect and communicate
[01:11:04.620 --> 01:11:10.060] directly from your wrist. Everything from virtual reality to designing our own data
[01:11:10.060 --> 01:11:14.220] centers. Describing what's coming even. It's just so different than you. I've been in
[01:11:14.220 --> 01:11:19.500] this infrastructure business for three decades. No one has ever seen infrastructure like this.
[01:11:19.500 --> 01:11:23.340] Now, I expect that these trends will only increase in the future.
[01:11:23.340 --> 01:11:28.540] In the last few months, we launched voice and vision capabilities so that ChatGPT can
[01:11:28.540 --> 01:11:35.540] now see, hear, and speak. It imports up to 128,000 tokens of context. That's 300 pages
[01:11:39.100 --> 01:11:45.980] of a standard book. That's all AI generated. Actually, let's add in some altocumulus files.
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[01:12:48.940 --> 01:13:14.060] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want
[01:13:14.060 --> 01:13:20.700] you to hear about love, generosity, and compassion. We say those words all the time and they sound
[01:13:20.700 --> 01:13:27.180] good. They feel good. But here's the truth. Those words don't mean anything unless they turn into
[01:13:27.180 --> 01:13:33.660] action. And right now, not later today, not tomorrow, there's a child in the world who doesn't
[01:13:33.660 --> 01:13:41.020] know if they'll eat, if they'll have a chance to learn, or if there's any hope at all. And while
[01:13:41.020 --> 01:13:47.500] we're all busy, life keeps moving forward. But that child is waiting. This is where you
[01:13:47.500 --> 01:13:52.860] come in. With Compassion International, you have the chance to change a child's future.
[01:13:52.860 --> 01:13:59.260] Not just with words, not with promises, but with real help that provides food, education,
[01:13:59.260 --> 01:14:06.620] and hope through local churches and people already in their community. Put your words into action
[01:14:06.700 --> 01:14:14.140] and join me. Introduce a child to a loving Heavenly Father today at Compassion.com.
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[01:15:15.100 --> 01:15:25.580] Keith Riegert says that there's only two possibilities for AI. It's either going to
[01:15:25.580 --> 01:15:31.580] collapse the economy if it doesn't work out, or if it does work out, the use case is to take
[01:15:31.580 --> 01:15:38.940] everybody's job and make everybody's jobs obsolete. Not a good prospect if those are the two choices
[01:15:38.940 --> 01:15:44.060] that are there. I think though that there is a third choice, and that is that the government,
[01:15:44.060 --> 01:15:49.260] maybe it won't take everybody's jobs, and maybe it won't collapse the economy because maybe the AI
[01:15:49.260 --> 01:15:56.140] bubble won't burst, but we will live under a dystopian control surveillance grid because
[01:15:56.140 --> 01:16:01.740] that's what the government will use it for. So there's a third alternative. AI's killer use case,
[01:16:01.740 --> 01:16:08.380] folks, is surveillance and control of us, and that's why the government is going to be so desperate
[01:16:08.380 --> 01:16:13.340] to fund it, whatever it takes. If you want to know why gold and silver and bitcoin are soaring,
[01:16:13.980 --> 01:16:21.820] it's the debasement of the dollar in order to fund the AI arms race, they said. And of course,
[01:16:21.820 --> 01:16:27.740] energy is the reality factor in all of this. That's where it gets real, and that's one of
[01:16:27.740 --> 01:16:32.300] the reasons why Bill Gates and others are moving back away from the climate MacGuffin.
[01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:38.060] The plandemic MacGuffin gives them all the justification that they need, and they need to
[01:16:38.060 --> 01:16:44.220] have this surveillance control and ID, this control grid that is there. They need to have that,
[01:16:44.220 --> 01:16:47.980] and they need to have artificial intelligence to run that. So they're pulling back from that
[01:16:47.980 --> 01:16:52.860] because in order to have the AI control structure, they've got to have massive amounts of energy.
[01:16:59.900 --> 01:17:06.780] All right, and joining us now is Dr. Richard Restak, MD, and he is a neuroscientist as well,
[01:17:06.780 --> 01:17:14.780] and he has written a lot of books on the brain, and now this is one kind of the nexus of our brain
[01:17:14.780 --> 01:17:20.380] and artificial intelligence. So I wanted to get him on because we, as you know, we talk about AI
[01:17:20.380 --> 01:17:24.380] and its impact on society quite a bit. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Restak.
[01:17:25.740 --> 01:17:27.900] Well, I'm happy to be here. Thank you, David.
[01:17:27.900 --> 01:17:31.500] You've written so many books, and the best-selling author, and of course,
[01:17:31.500 --> 01:17:36.300] people can find this on Amazon. You've written so many books. What is different about the brain?
[01:17:36.300 --> 01:17:39.820] What is different about this one, and why did you write this book?
[01:17:40.700 --> 01:17:49.420] I wrote this book to announce and to discuss the dangers that are lurking, so to speak,
[01:17:49.420 --> 01:17:55.500] in the 21st century, and are unique to the 21st century, but are having an effect on the brain
[01:17:55.500 --> 01:18:01.580] and the negative one, so that we really are imperiled by eight different factors,
[01:18:02.140 --> 01:18:09.900] one of which is the global warming. We have new diseases that are present in the 21st century that
[01:18:09.900 --> 01:18:15.820] are increasing, starting with COVID and moving forward. We have problems, of course, with
[01:18:17.980 --> 01:18:22.300] the global warming, which we'll talk about in more detail, and then the internet,
[01:18:22.300 --> 01:18:28.940] the effect of the internet, the effect of AI, memory, the alteration, the attempt to alter
[01:18:28.940 --> 01:18:36.380] memory, almost to alter our memories of what the past was like. This is an ongoing enterprise by
[01:18:36.380 --> 01:18:43.020] various governments in the world, including our own. We also have surveillance, the seventh,
[01:18:43.020 --> 01:18:48.220] the surveillance, becoming increasingly a surveillance society. It's almost impossible
[01:18:48.780 --> 01:18:55.580] to not be revealing things about yourself, because there's surveillance cameras everywhere.
[01:18:55.660 --> 01:18:59.020] I can give you several examples of that, just in my own personal life.
[01:18:59.020 --> 01:19:05.100] And then finally, the eighth one is anxiety. All of these things are creating what I call
[01:19:05.100 --> 01:19:13.100] an existential anxiety. People are being given information, but it's being molded according to
[01:19:13.100 --> 01:19:19.260] the thoughts and the inclinations of people in power. For instance, let's take today's,
[01:19:19.260 --> 01:19:24.940] right out of today's New York Times, on page A7, there's an article called,
[01:19:25.660 --> 01:19:33.660] The Air in New Delhi is Life Threatening. And it tells the tale of the New York Times reporters
[01:19:34.220 --> 01:19:40.380] who have spread themselves throughout New Delhi from 6 a.m. until late in the evening of a certain
[01:19:40.380 --> 01:19:48.140] day recently, and they measured the particulate matter in the air, and it was anywhere from 10
[01:19:48.140 --> 01:19:57.900] times to 30 times as great as would be considered minimally normal. Now, on top of that, you have
[01:19:57.900 --> 01:20:05.740] the statement that they state that the government is actually trying to hide this kind of insight
[01:20:06.460 --> 01:20:12.460] to the populace by spraying water and other things like that. It says that they're doing this
[01:20:13.180 --> 01:20:19.820] around the measuring stations. They're also losing data from measuring stations
[01:20:19.820 --> 01:20:26.140] during the worst amounts of pollution. So there you have the molding of the facts,
[01:20:26.780 --> 01:20:32.940] either denying them altogether or trying to improve them so people say, oh well, they measured it down
[01:20:32.940 --> 01:20:37.500] at such and such a measuring station, and it was really not all that high. Of course, they were
[01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:43.740] spreading water and other things to try to reduce this. So we've got a capitalist society
[01:20:43.740 --> 01:20:51.740] here in the United States which has a vested interest in pushing forward certain scientific
[01:20:51.740 --> 01:20:58.220] points of view. So science is being put sort of in the back seat, and there's politicians and other
[01:20:58.220 --> 01:21:05.820] people, all of whom share one thing, capitalistic enterprises in which they're part of or which they
[01:21:05.820 --> 01:21:13.740] are advancing. And a kind of crony capitalism where they can get protection and subsidies as
[01:21:13.740 --> 01:21:19.500] well. And the control is being taken away from us because, as I was just reporting earlier today,
[01:21:20.220 --> 01:21:25.180] they're working very hard to make sure that state and local governments can't enact any
[01:21:25.980 --> 01:21:31.260] control on artificial intelligence. And that came up in the context of talking about how the
[01:21:31.260 --> 01:21:37.420] manufacturers of tasers, also big manufacturers of police body cams, how they want to wed that
[01:21:37.420 --> 01:21:42.300] to artificial intelligence. And the question is, you know, what could possibly go wrong with that?
[01:21:42.300 --> 01:21:48.300] If they identify you, they misidentify you as a dangerous criminal and warn the police about how
[01:21:48.300 --> 01:21:54.220] dangerous you are, they could get people killed. Well, not only that, but all of these efforts
[01:21:54.940 --> 01:22:02.540] set up a sense of anxiety and fear. Let me just tell you what happened to me in one morning.
[01:22:03.580 --> 01:22:09.100] Called a cab to go to a medical appointment, and we started going down the road. I said to the
[01:22:09.100 --> 01:22:13.900] driver, you know, you're not going the most efficient or the quickest way. He said, I know
[01:22:13.900 --> 01:22:19.020] that. He said, but I don't want to go that way because there's speed cameras. I said, well,
[01:22:19.020 --> 01:22:23.820] you know, you're driving very sensibly and you're not speeding. And I'm in no hurry. So
[01:22:23.820 --> 01:22:29.100] what's the problem? He said, well, they take pictures of everybody that goes by those cameras
[01:22:29.100 --> 01:22:35.020] because they want to see who's in those photos in those cars. So I asked him to give me a reference
[01:22:35.020 --> 01:22:40.060] for that. And he got sort of didn't say anything else for the rest of the trip. So when I got down
[01:22:40.060 --> 01:22:45.980] to the medical building, I got in the elevator and said, in this facility, there is surveillance,
[01:22:45.980 --> 01:22:56.460] both obvious and hidden. And the Santa Claus was watching, you know, this is one morning.
[01:22:56.460 --> 01:23:00.940] And then when I got up to sign in, I signed the board with electronic
[01:23:02.140 --> 01:23:07.420] pen and I didn't see no signature. I saw it. I said, well, it didn't take. She said, oh, it took,
[01:23:07.420 --> 01:23:12.060] but we don't allow it to go on the screen. So it could be seen. I said, why is that? She said,
[01:23:12.060 --> 01:23:16.940] well, somebody behind you might see the thing and then remember it and use your for
[01:23:16.940 --> 01:23:22.460] your signature to forward something somewhere. Well, first of all, there was a sign that said,
[01:23:22.460 --> 01:23:28.780] stand 10 feet back. And secondly, there's nobody else behind me. So there's three examples just
[01:23:28.780 --> 01:23:33.740] drawn at random. Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one
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[01:25:33.980 --> 01:25:40.060] which is creating a sense of paranoia and a sense of fear. So the brain has to adjust to these type
[01:25:40.060 --> 01:25:46.860] of things, Dave, and it's very hard to do. And I think that is calculated. You know, they've been,
[01:25:46.860 --> 01:25:51.340] they want to do this even to the extent, when you talk about these cameras taking everybody's
[01:25:51.340 --> 01:25:55.580] picture, the flock network that is out there, this corporation that is saying, well, we can
[01:25:55.580 --> 01:26:01.660] do whatever we want because it's in public space and, you know, we're not government,
[01:26:01.660 --> 01:26:06.620] so we can collect this information. And yet they collect it in order to sell it to the government.
[01:26:06.620 --> 01:26:12.460] So it's just one level indirect, but they not only grab your license plate, but they also
[01:26:13.020 --> 01:26:18.380] do a complete profile of your car and all of its idiosyncrasies. Does it have a dent here? Does it
[01:26:18.380 --> 01:26:23.340] have a scrape there? What about a bumper sticker? So it creates a model of your car. And so they
[01:26:23.340 --> 01:26:30.300] almost have like biometric identification of your cars as well as of you. And this is now made
[01:26:30.300 --> 01:26:36.540] possible because of the advances of AI. But this has been something that has been concerning me.
[01:26:37.420 --> 01:26:41.980] I look at things kind of from a libertarian perspective, and this has been concerning me
[01:26:41.980 --> 01:26:48.060] for a long time. The idea that government is using technology many different ways, internet,
[01:26:48.060 --> 01:26:53.980] social media, things like that, to monitor and to manipulate us all the time. And to me,
[01:26:55.100 --> 01:27:01.340] artificial intelligence just puts this on steroids. And so I think there is something to be anxious
[01:27:01.340 --> 01:27:06.940] about if we're going to look at this. We should be concerned about it. Maybe not anxious, but we
[01:27:06.940 --> 01:27:10.860] should be concerned about the goals of people who are putting this kind of stuff together.
[01:27:11.740 --> 01:27:13.260] So, yeah.
[01:27:13.260 --> 01:27:18.860] Well, there's that. And then if you can manage to change the present, you can manipulate the
[01:27:18.860 --> 01:27:25.500] future. Of course, the real way to get it is to get control of the past, as Orwell pointed out.
[01:27:25.500 --> 01:27:32.140] You control the past, you can control the present, and by the implication control the future.
[01:27:32.140 --> 01:27:39.740] And we're seeing alterations of materials, even government documents, government films,
[01:27:39.820 --> 01:27:46.460] documentaries, things like that are being altered in ways that are not visible, not,
[01:27:46.460 --> 01:27:51.900] I should say, detectable, not detectable to the ordinary person. So they get ideas about what the
[01:27:51.900 --> 01:28:00.860] past was like, which are wrong. And don't show you, as I mentioned in the book, if you were at a dance
[01:28:01.340 --> 01:28:09.260] 1850 before the Civil War, and it's a film we're watching. Let's just say we're watching a film
[01:28:09.260 --> 01:28:15.260] about 1850, and we're seeing people ballroom dancing, all that. Then one of them pulls to the
[01:28:15.260 --> 01:28:20.780] side and pulls out a cell phone. And you say, wait a minute, we didn't have cell phones then.
[01:28:20.780 --> 01:28:27.020] Well, you know, there were a lot of things that were going on now that were not going on in the
[01:28:27.020 --> 01:28:33.580] past. And it's not to our advantage to try to pretend that they were, they weren't. We have to
[01:28:33.580 --> 01:28:41.980] understand the past, understand the future. And we're not only creating situations that are false,
[01:28:41.980 --> 01:28:51.260] but we're also, like in 1984, Orwell created a character called Commander Ogilvy. He was a war
[01:28:51.260 --> 01:28:58.060] hero. He got all sorts of medals, and it was all the proletaries that were all told to
[01:28:58.060 --> 01:29:05.100] honor him and so forth. Well, he never existed. He actually was made up entirely. And that's one
[01:29:05.100 --> 01:29:11.900] of the things that the narrator is doing in the job at work, is filling in photographs of
[01:29:11.900 --> 01:29:19.580] secreting Ogilvy into historical events that happened, wartime scenarios, etc. And while reading
[01:29:19.580 --> 01:29:25.660] it, we'll say, wow, this is some man. Well, he was a complete fabrication. We're just about at
[01:29:25.660 --> 01:29:33.580] that point with Sora out, the AI out. Well, it could take you and had you, you know, to say,
[01:29:33.580 --> 01:29:39.180] let's get David Knight and have him leading some sort of a parade or whatever. And, you know,
[01:29:39.180 --> 01:29:45.660] suddenly people say, well, gosh, I saw him with my own eyes. So what's happening is that the actual
[01:29:45.660 --> 01:29:51.180] seeing is believing is being turned on its head. So that's no longer true. You're talking about a
[01:29:51.180 --> 01:29:56.700] completely fabricated character out of Orwell. It's just recently they had Tilly Norwood, who
[01:29:56.700 --> 01:30:02.860] is a completely fabricated AI personality. And the person who came up with it has got agents
[01:30:02.860 --> 01:30:08.540] representing her. They got her out there as an actress. Yeah. I mean, it's like, so I've created
[01:30:08.540 --> 01:30:13.500] an AI actress, which will do a lot of different roles for you. She probably does her own stunts
[01:30:13.500 --> 01:30:19.020] as well. I mentioned people in SAG, the Screen Actors Guild, and they're furious about this.
[01:30:19.020 --> 01:30:24.380] And I said, any agent that represents this AI character is not going to do any business with
[01:30:24.380 --> 01:30:30.540] us. But we're already at that point. It truly is interesting. Yeah. And one of the ways of
[01:30:30.540 --> 01:30:35.980] neutralizing it is to create the situation that exists right now between you and me. You're laughing
[01:30:35.980 --> 01:30:41.820] and I'm laughing because it seems funny and it is funny, but it's a very serious purpose behind all
[01:30:41.820 --> 01:30:48.380] this. Yes. It's all a matter to try to alter people's perceptions so that they begin to doubt
[01:30:48.380 --> 01:30:54.700] the veredity of what they're seeing. That's right. Yes. And I've talked for the longest time about
[01:30:54.700 --> 01:30:59.900] how the whole idea for the internet was created by DARPA psychologists. And I've been concerned
[01:30:59.900 --> 01:31:06.700] that it was all about psychological manipulation from the get-go with all of this. But as a physician
[01:31:06.700 --> 01:31:12.460] and as a neuroscientist, I'd be interested in your take on what is currently going on. Because
[01:31:12.460 --> 01:31:17.980] besides manipulating the past by changing information about the past or memory-holing
[01:31:17.980 --> 01:31:23.580] it or writing a new alternative history of it, they are also concerned. And there's been projects
[01:31:23.580 --> 01:31:28.460] that have been put out by DARPA. And I don't know if they've been successful or not, but they're
[01:31:28.460 --> 01:31:34.060] putting out requests for people to come up with things to manipulate people's memories. So you've
[01:31:34.060 --> 01:31:40.380] got a soldier, they say, who's got bad PTSD. Let's get rid of that memory. Let's give them
[01:31:40.380 --> 01:31:46.460] different memories. What do you see in terms of someone who studies the brain and neuroscience?
[01:31:46.460 --> 01:31:51.420] What do you see about that? What do you think is the state of the art with that?
[01:31:52.300 --> 01:31:56.540] Well, my last book was called The Complete Book of Memory. It had to do with memory. I studied
[01:31:56.540 --> 01:32:03.020] memory in great detail. And of course, you have to do away with the concept that memory is like a
[01:32:03.740 --> 01:32:08.780] videotape or something that you just store in your brain. And when you want to get it,
[01:32:08.780 --> 01:32:13.420] you just bring it out like you bring out a videotape. It's not like that. It's a
[01:32:13.420 --> 01:32:20.860] reconstruction. Each time you think back to a certain event, you alter that memory so that you
[01:32:20.860 --> 01:32:28.300] have memory one, memory two, memory three, on and on and on. That's the nature of memory. And memory
[01:32:28.300 --> 01:32:35.260] can be manipulated. It's always in the courtroom. They're always trying to avoid the contamination
[01:32:35.260 --> 01:32:40.460] of the witness. An example of that would be, well, which car went through the red light?
[01:32:41.500 --> 01:32:47.340] And to ask a witness, he said, oh, it was a red car went through the red light. Well,
[01:32:47.340 --> 01:32:52.700] wouldn't it surprise you to know that it wasn't a red light, but it was a stop sign, Mr. Witness?
[01:32:53.660 --> 01:32:59.660] Of course, his credibility is gone because he took the suggestion that it was a red light
[01:33:00.220 --> 01:33:05.260] instead of, and it'd be very easy to do because you don't necessarily have that image,
[01:33:05.260 --> 01:33:10.620] that intersection in your mind. So that's why there's protections, even in the courtroom
[01:33:10.620 --> 01:33:16.220] against leading the witness, they call it. In other words, providing information that's
[01:33:16.220 --> 01:33:23.020] either not true at all or half true. So we've got that cause. This is not, this didn't start
[01:33:23.020 --> 01:33:28.460] in the 21st century. That started, you know, as long as we've had courtrooms. This is more
[01:33:28.460 --> 01:33:35.180] an emphasis now on altering memory. So the people will get up there and under Crouse examination,
[01:33:35.180 --> 01:33:39.660] they'll do pretty well because their whole memory has been altered. They've changed by
[01:33:39.660 --> 01:33:45.340] various mechanisms, suggestion, repeating information, which is false, of course,
[01:33:45.340 --> 01:33:52.860] which is the missing information. There's a cartoon about a week ago by Ramirez in which
[01:33:52.860 --> 01:34:00.380] he, he spoke to prize winner. He has three doctors in an operating room in a laboratory.
[01:34:01.020 --> 01:34:06.460] One of them is looking into a microscope and he looks up and he says, this is the most dangerous
[01:34:06.460 --> 01:34:11.580] pathogen we have ever encountered. And the second doctor says, well, is it bubonic?
[01:34:11.580 --> 01:34:16.380] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want
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[01:35:52.460 --> 01:35:56.780] one that he says, no, it's misinformation and disinformation.
[01:35:58.780 --> 01:36:05.340] That's right. And we've got to be very careful because many times the people who will tell us
[01:36:05.340 --> 01:36:10.460] about that are the people who want to be the ones who define what the information is for us.
[01:36:11.100 --> 01:36:14.380] And they will ask those leading questions. You know, when we're talking about leading questions
[01:36:14.380 --> 01:36:19.340] and manipulating people, there's been a lot of reports about artificial intelligence,
[01:36:19.900 --> 01:36:28.620] kind of people who have particular psychosis or something and they get involved with the AI
[01:36:28.620 --> 01:36:33.020] and it starts to confirm the things that they want because that's what it is set up to do
[01:36:33.020 --> 01:36:38.460] in terms of bias that want to, you know, be empathetic and sympathetic to people. And so
[01:36:38.460 --> 01:36:42.540] it starts doing that and leading them further and further down a particular rabbit hole.
[01:36:42.540 --> 01:36:48.860] There's been situations of, you know, people who got into severe mental distress, some suicides of
[01:36:48.860 --> 01:36:54.220] some young children and other things like that. Speak to that aspect of it and the real danger
[01:36:54.220 --> 01:37:01.180] of that. That is really kind of, I think, speaks to the psychological aspect and potential of
[01:37:01.180 --> 01:37:04.860] artificial intelligence. And that could be weaponized. Right now it's just kind of happening
[01:37:05.900 --> 01:37:10.700] out of their business model, right? But that could definitely be weaponized against people.
[01:37:10.700 --> 01:37:15.660] Well, I talk about that in my book in the chapter on the internet. There are famous examples of
[01:37:15.660 --> 01:37:25.180] people who have suicided right on the internet live feed and they've been manipulated to doing
[01:37:25.180 --> 01:37:31.820] that by other people who have encouraged them, said this would be a sign of strength. This would
[01:37:31.820 --> 01:37:39.020] be a sign that you're not afraid to die if necessary. And there's cases of it that actually
[01:37:39.020 --> 01:37:46.460] led to the suicide. One of the most grisly I have in my book about a person who was talked into
[01:37:46.460 --> 01:37:53.980] pouring gasoline over themselves and setting a match all on open feed internet. And while this
[01:37:53.980 --> 01:38:00.460] fire is burning, you can hear everybody in the backgrounds cheering. We did it. We did it. We
[01:38:00.460 --> 01:38:07.020] got them to do it. Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. So there's something about the internet
[01:38:07.020 --> 01:38:15.580] and about that actually brings out sadistic, criminal, psychopathic trends. And we don't know
[01:38:15.580 --> 01:38:21.820] why. Is it the fact that you don't necessarily can't be identified? It's something that is going
[01:38:21.820 --> 01:38:28.220] to be influencing and has influenced the internet greatly. And it will continue to do so until we
[01:38:28.220 --> 01:38:33.180] understand it. I think that's one of the things that's so dangerous about the things that we saw
[01:38:33.180 --> 01:38:39.180] with lockdown and other aspects of it. There's an atomization here and so many different ways
[01:38:39.180 --> 01:38:46.860] the government and tech companies are trying to make sure that we're not in person with each
[01:38:46.860 --> 01:38:51.980] other. In many cases, like for example, in this interview, we couldn't do this interview if
[01:38:51.980 --> 01:38:57.260] one of both of us had to travel. We're able to do this because we can do it over Zoom or whatever.
[01:38:57.900 --> 01:39:05.340] But just taking ordinary things that you would normally do in terms of interacting with people
[01:39:05.900 --> 01:39:11.020] in school or in church or in your community or whatever, taking that away and putting a screen
[01:39:11.020 --> 01:39:14.700] between the two of you, it really does change the way people interact with each other. I remember
[01:39:14.700 --> 01:39:20.380] Errol Morris, the film director, was able to get people to say all kinds of things to him. He got
[01:39:20.380 --> 01:39:28.300] a murderer to confess. He got Robert McNamara to confess about the false flag of the Vietnam War.
[01:39:28.300 --> 01:39:32.620] He got people to say all kinds of stuff because there was that distance between him and them. He
[01:39:32.620 --> 01:39:37.820] could have interviewed them in person, but what he did was he put an interrotron, which is what
[01:39:37.820 --> 01:39:43.100] he called it. It was basically a teleprompter that he had set up so he could do two-way communication
[01:39:43.100 --> 01:39:49.340] at the time. And once he had that distance there, then it completely changed the dynamics that he
[01:39:49.340 --> 01:39:54.140] would have versus with somebody person to person. And that's what we're talking about here, isn't it?
[01:39:55.180 --> 01:39:58.620] Yeah, we're talking about that. And of course, there's the integrations of this
[01:39:58.620 --> 01:40:03.980] and it continues. You're interviewing me. We're discussing. I feel like it's a discussion.
[01:40:04.780 --> 01:40:08.700] If I were to say something that later I regretted, I could probably say,
[01:40:08.700 --> 01:40:17.020] oh, well, that wasn't me. That was my avatar. Or my agent, right? I got an AI agent that's out
[01:40:17.020 --> 01:40:26.620] there. That's crazy. We also see, though, as a doctor, you're seeing people have noticed
[01:40:26.620 --> 01:40:31.500] actual physical changes that can be observed in people's brains. I'm thinking of the story about
[01:40:31.500 --> 01:40:37.660] the London taxi drivers who would do the knowledge. And they would find that as they memorized all
[01:40:37.660 --> 01:40:44.940] these factual details and drew on that all the time in order to take people to this very
[01:40:44.940 --> 01:40:49.020] complicated city with its complicated streets, that they had a particular part of their brain
[01:40:49.020 --> 01:40:55.260] that was larger than the typical person. And then they found that once they stopped doing that,
[01:40:55.260 --> 01:40:59.820] it started to shrink again. And we're starting to see that happening with people in a lot of
[01:40:59.820 --> 01:41:04.460] different areas of their life, that kind of atrophy. And it's physically observable, isn't it?
[01:41:05.500 --> 01:41:10.540] Well, it is. You have to learn. You have to use the things that you have learned to do.
[01:41:11.180 --> 01:41:15.100] Like I mentioned in my memory book, there's all kinds of memory exercises
[01:41:15.100 --> 01:41:20.780] that you could do. I do them every day. And they're very easy. And they help you to continue
[01:41:20.780 --> 01:41:25.980] with your memory and keep it sharp. Give us some examples. I'm sure everybody would
[01:41:25.980 --> 01:41:30.780] love to know that. We'd all like to have a better memory. What kind of things can we do to
[01:41:30.780 --> 01:41:34.460] exercise our memory? Well, think about the fact that you never had to learn pictures.
[01:41:35.100 --> 01:41:40.540] When you were an infant, a young child, a picture was something that you could,
[01:41:41.100 --> 01:41:45.500] you may not know what you're looking at, but you could see it without an intermediary.
[01:41:45.500 --> 01:41:49.660] Whereas language is something that you have to hear from other people.
[01:41:49.660 --> 01:41:55.500] It's something that's sort of added on to the brain. Okay. So as a result, the most
[01:41:55.660 --> 01:42:02.700] best way of remembering something is to make an image for it. Okay. For instance,
[01:42:02.700 --> 01:42:09.580] I have a little dog called a Skipperkey. Skipperkey is a Belgian dog. He's a nice little fellow.
[01:42:10.220 --> 01:42:14.140] But it was embarrassing to me when walking the street, people say, what kind of a dog is that?
[01:42:14.140 --> 01:42:19.660] And I couldn't come up with a name because it was such complicated. And I thought that's Skipperkey.
[01:42:20.620 --> 01:42:30.460] I didn't speak any Dutch or anything. So then I got this image of a small boat with a large captain
[01:42:30.460 --> 01:42:37.980] with a beard holding a big key. So it was Skipperkey. And I remember forever. So I was
[01:42:37.980 --> 01:42:44.140] going to have the picture. Once I have the picture, it's easy to do. Another way, easy way to do it.
[01:42:44.140 --> 01:42:48.060] And you can do that with all kinds of terms. All the time I was going upstairs
[01:42:48.860 --> 01:42:55.260] before I came down to the office and I wanted to get my wallet and I wanted to get my cell phone.
[01:42:55.980 --> 01:43:01.900] So I just had an image of a wallet in the form of a cell phone. And I was walking up the stairs,
[01:43:01.900 --> 01:43:07.820] talking into the wallet cell phone. So I got up and I knew I had these two elements to get.
[01:43:07.820 --> 01:43:13.660] Be very easy to get one and forget the other. So you have these images all the time. And the
[01:43:13.660 --> 01:43:20.780] quickest, you know, this is sort of off the topic of the book, but if you want to have a firepower
[01:43:20.780 --> 01:43:30.300] memory for a load of things, that's up to 10 things and get 10 areas that you are familiar with,
[01:43:30.300 --> 01:43:38.380] that you see every day. And then you could put on those images the thing you're trying to remember.
[01:43:39.180 --> 01:43:49.900] So if I'm trying to remember a loaf of bread, milk, maybe a batteries, I have a regular way
[01:43:49.900 --> 01:43:57.420] of doing that. I have like, I remember my the library that's near my home, the coffee shop,
[01:43:57.420 --> 01:44:03.180] liquor store, Georgetown University Medical School where I went, Georgetown University,
[01:44:03.740 --> 01:44:11.100] Cafe Milano, which is a place in Washington everybody gathers, and then Key Bridge,
[01:44:11.900 --> 01:44:19.180] Iwo Jima Memorial, and Reagan Airport. So that bread would be, for instance, the loaf of bread,
[01:44:19.180 --> 01:44:24.220] I would look in the window of the library instead of seeing books, I see bread, loaves of bread.
[01:44:24.780 --> 01:44:29.580] And when I get down to the liquor store, instead of it being filled with liquor,
[01:44:29.580 --> 01:44:34.060] that'll be milk bottles. So that's how that's. Hey, it's Ben Ferguson, and I want you to pause
[01:44:34.060 --> 01:44:39.260] what you're doing for just one minute. And I want you to hear about love, generosity,
[01:44:39.260 --> 01:44:44.940] and compassion. We say those words all the time, and they sound good. They feel good. But here's
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[01:46:14.060 --> 01:46:18.620] any problems at all. That's great. Yeah, you know, it's interesting you talk about the
[01:46:19.580 --> 01:46:22.620] the importance of a visualization. It's one of the things that I do
[01:46:23.980 --> 01:46:26.940] in terms of preparing for the show. I have a lot of articles that I go through.
[01:46:27.580 --> 01:46:32.700] And it's really when I highlight things or when I write them down, that's when I can remember them.
[01:46:32.700 --> 01:46:35.900] If I don't do that, if I were just to read these things, I wouldn't remember them.
[01:46:35.900 --> 01:46:40.860] But if I interact with it and write it down, that helps me to remember it. So that is a kind
[01:46:40.860 --> 01:46:46.940] of visualization there, I guess, as well. It truly is interesting. And what you said earlier
[01:46:46.940 --> 01:46:51.420] about memory not being something that is stored in a place as somebody coming from a computer
[01:46:51.420 --> 01:46:57.900] science background. That was a very different thing when you construct your memory. How do
[01:46:57.900 --> 01:47:04.540] you reconstruct that? I mean, that opens up a whole new area of questions as well. In other words,
[01:47:04.540 --> 01:47:10.860] every time somebody brings up a subject, I mean, there isn't something that's stored initially to
[01:47:10.860 --> 01:47:17.500] reference that and then rebuild from that. There's the interconnections. Like, you know,
[01:47:17.500 --> 01:47:22.300] somebody listening to us might say, well, gee, this is called the 21st century brain, but I
[01:47:22.300 --> 01:47:26.460] haven't heard that much about the brain. Well, let me just link that up so that these things make
[01:47:26.460 --> 01:47:31.900] sense. We have a new version, or I should say a new understanding of the brain called the
[01:47:31.900 --> 01:47:39.820] connectomic brain, in which there's all kinds of interactions in the brain of parts of the brain,
[01:47:39.820 --> 01:47:45.580] which you don't, we're just learning about. I have the, I use the metaphor of a bowl of spaghetti.
[01:47:46.140 --> 01:47:51.980] You pull out one of the strains of spaghetti and you never have any idea what it's connected to,
[01:47:51.980 --> 01:47:57.740] how many other strains of spaghetti this is connected to. So that's, if you think of the
[01:47:57.740 --> 01:48:06.780] brain as being kind of set to make connections, that's its natural processing. So it gets back
[01:48:06.780 --> 01:48:11.580] to these things that we were talking about earlier, you know, global warming and memory
[01:48:11.580 --> 01:48:17.180] and surveillance and all that. How are we going to solve all those? Well, somehow or other,
[01:48:17.180 --> 01:48:23.580] those things are connected with each other. That's the take home message to this book.
[01:48:24.380 --> 01:48:30.700] And the basic goal is to try to figure out what it is that connects these things,
[01:48:31.340 --> 01:48:38.540] what it is that would allow us to, by solving one of them, solve the other.
[01:48:39.740 --> 01:48:46.780] And I mentioned at the end of the book, experts so far haven't done it. So it's useful,
[01:48:46.780 --> 01:48:54.060] as Hayek said, to get ordinary people to give, when I say ordinary, I mean non-specialized people,
[01:48:54.620 --> 01:49:00.140] to give their ideas. Gee, I wonder what such and such would happen. What would happen about global
[01:49:00.140 --> 01:49:05.020] warming? For a while there was, in fact, there's still experiments going on on the effect of sulfur
[01:49:05.580 --> 01:49:15.420] that would help the CO2 problem. And, you know, shooting sulfur up into the atmosphere. Of course,
[01:49:15.420 --> 01:49:24.380] the reason for that was the volcano in 1980 something, in which after that volcano in Hawaii,
[01:49:24.380 --> 01:49:30.860] it was noted that the air was clearer and it was less pollution. So that's something
[01:49:30.860 --> 01:49:37.660] to think about. Is there some way of using that particular sulfur experiment to decrease global
[01:49:37.660 --> 01:49:44.620] warming? War, for instance, we don't think of war as a cause of global warming, but it is.
[01:49:44.700 --> 01:49:53.660] Or CO2. Thermonuclear warming. Yeah, it's been put up since the Ukraine war and the Gaza war.
[01:49:54.700 --> 01:50:01.580] Then, you know, a tremendous amount that's going to overcome and exceed the benefit of any of these
[01:50:01.580 --> 01:50:08.140] things like, you know, non-gasoline engines, but, you know, using ladders and things like that.
[01:50:08.140 --> 01:50:12.860] Absolutely. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know, shooting up rockets in order to put satellites
[01:50:12.860 --> 01:50:20.060] up. You know, how many cars and lifetime use of cars from people would that be equivalent to? And
[01:50:20.060 --> 01:50:23.980] you start talking about all the missiles that are being shot and then you get to the explosives as
[01:50:23.980 --> 01:50:32.380] well. It is really interesting how they focus on their objectives for their ways to control it.
[01:50:32.380 --> 01:50:39.660] The manipulation has been going on for quite some time. And so, yeah, that is pretty amazing. And
[01:50:39.660 --> 01:50:45.180] I guess that's my, you know, when you look at this stuff, it really does look like science fiction.
[01:50:45.180 --> 01:50:49.980] I'm almost inclined to write it off when I first see it when DARPA is saying, well, we need to find
[01:50:49.980 --> 01:50:56.140] some way that we can, you know, erase memories and people and insert new memories into them.
[01:50:56.140 --> 01:51:02.380] I mean, we're going back to total recall, right? So it sounds like something from a Philip K. Dick
[01:51:02.380 --> 01:51:06.380] novel, but they're really working on that. And I guess one of the most striking things we saw,
[01:51:06.380 --> 01:51:12.780] we reported on a couple of weeks ago, and it was a company that was bragging about how they could
[01:51:12.780 --> 01:51:18.380] read your mind more accurately and quickly than their competitors, because there's a lot of
[01:51:18.380 --> 01:51:24.700] different companies that are doing this and how they could, it was called Brain IT was the name
[01:51:24.700 --> 01:51:33.980] of the company. And so they had a way that they would do MRI and they could essentially train it
[01:51:33.980 --> 01:51:37.500] on your brain in a much shorter period of time than the other people. And they could get much
[01:51:37.500 --> 01:51:41.740] better results and our producers just pull this up. So what they do is they show you an image
[01:51:42.380 --> 01:51:46.380] and you're looking at that image and then it's reading your mind and reconstructing what you're
[01:51:46.380 --> 01:51:51.100] looking at, which I thought was absolutely amazing and terrifying at the same time.
[01:51:51.740 --> 01:51:56.220] How is this going to be used? I guess that's the real issue. When we start talking about all
[01:51:56.220 --> 01:52:01.820] these different things, I think that is the real case that it's difficult for people to understand
[01:52:01.820 --> 01:52:07.900] just how far and how quickly the technology has progressed. And then to say, and how do we control
[01:52:07.900 --> 01:52:16.140] this from it being used for bad purposes? Well, that's a specifically 21st century problem.
[01:52:16.140 --> 01:52:21.900] Yes. Because all of these things are either originated in the 21st century or they have in
[01:52:21.900 --> 01:52:28.300] fact further developed and become increasingly threatening. And bear in mind, we have to
[01:52:29.180 --> 01:52:33.340] have to solve these problems because they're not something that's going to go away. And then the
[01:52:33.340 --> 01:52:40.300] most important thing to remember, David, is that all of these things harm the brain and the brain
[01:52:40.300 --> 01:52:47.820] is the thinking processor that's going to save us. It's going to figure out what the solutions
[01:52:47.820 --> 01:52:55.100] to the problems are. So we know now that wildfire smoke, for instance, it creates dementia. It
[01:52:55.100 --> 01:53:02.300] enhances the likelihood of somebody coming to manage. So as the brain is affected negatively,
[01:53:02.300 --> 01:53:07.980] increasingly over longer and longer periods of time, our ability to solve these problems
[01:53:07.980 --> 01:53:13.100] is going to decrease. So we've got to do it now. We've got to get serious about it.
[01:53:13.100 --> 01:53:19.340] And this business of people getting up and saying that global warming is fiction and all that is
[01:53:19.340 --> 01:53:27.500] really very, very disturbing. The example that you gave earlier of the fact that the Indian
[01:53:27.500 --> 01:53:32.220] government was manipulating the temperature at some of the stations there, that kind of works
[01:53:32.220 --> 01:53:38.220] both ways. They have put some of these temperature stations on the airport tarmacs and in the UK,
[01:53:38.220 --> 01:53:42.940] they have a lot of the temperature stations that they've got there. They're just extrapolating
[01:53:42.940 --> 01:53:47.420] the data. They don't have real temperature measurement stations there. So it all really
[01:53:47.420 --> 01:53:52.220] gets back, I think, to the scientific method. And that's really where we have to hold people's
[01:53:52.220 --> 01:53:56.540] feet to the fire. We're talking about something like that. We can have an absolute standard
[01:53:56.540 --> 01:54:02.140] of what truth is. And that truth is going to be being able to measure something accurately
[01:54:02.140 --> 01:54:07.820] and being able to reproduce that. And then I think a good yardstick for that is when somebody is
[01:54:07.820 --> 01:54:13.180] trying to hide their data, that's the clue right there, that they're not doing science,
[01:54:13.180 --> 01:54:17.340] because if they're doing science and they've come to the right conclusion,
[01:54:17.340 --> 01:54:22.220] they don't have a problem with somebody looking at their data. And so I've got a question here
[01:54:22.220 --> 01:54:28.700] for you from a person in the audience asking if you know about doctors James Giordano and
[01:54:28.700 --> 01:54:32.780] Charles Morgan and their work with military. I'm not familiar with those names. I don't know if
[01:54:32.780 --> 01:54:37.500] you know anything about that or not. Giordano says familiar. What particular
[01:54:38.700 --> 01:54:42.140] thing are they asking about them? I don't know. It just says their work with military. I guess
[01:54:42.140 --> 01:54:45.340] it would have to do with something, but you haven't heard of it. I'm not sure.
[01:54:46.060 --> 01:54:52.140] I could say Giordano did this or did that. No, sure. I understand. Hey, it's Ben Ferguson,
[01:54:52.140 --> 01:54:57.260] and I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want you to hear about
[01:54:57.260 --> 01:55:02.940] love, generosity and compassion. We say those words all the time and they sound good. They
[01:55:02.940 --> 01:55:09.660] feel good. But here's the truth. Those words don't mean anything unless they turn into action.
[01:55:09.740 --> 01:55:15.980] And right now, not later today, not tomorrow, there's a child in the world who doesn't know
[01:55:15.980 --> 01:55:22.700] if they'll eat, if they'll have a chance to learn or if there's any hope at all. And while
[01:55:22.700 --> 01:55:29.820] we're all busy, life keeps moving forward. But that child is waiting. This is where you come in
[01:55:29.820 --> 01:55:35.900] with Compassion International. You have the chance to change a child's future, not just with words,
[01:55:35.900 --> 01:55:42.220] not with promises, but with real help that provides food, education and hope through
[01:55:42.220 --> 01:55:48.620] local churches and people already in their community. Put your words into action and
[01:55:48.620 --> 01:55:57.900] join me. Introduce a child to a loving heavenly father today at compassion.com. That's compassion.com.
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[01:56:32.860 --> 01:56:38.700] anxious about. And of course, as Christians, we have one answer to it. But you talk about how this
[01:56:38.700 --> 01:56:45.820] is something that has been around pretty much all of our life. I mean, I grew up with anxiety about
[01:56:45.820 --> 01:56:53.020] nuclear war, for example. That was on everybody's television and that was forefront of our mind,
[01:56:53.020 --> 01:56:57.740] especially growing up in Florida when the Cuban Missile Crisis was happening. They got us really
[01:56:57.740 --> 01:57:01.260] afraid of that when I was in elementary school. It's like, there's not going to be enough time
[01:57:01.260 --> 01:57:06.780] for you to get home when the nuclear bombs start falling. And so, I mean, there's all these different
[01:57:06.780 --> 01:57:12.380] ways that you can panic people. I guess part of it is how do we identify the real problems
[01:57:12.940 --> 01:57:19.820] and how do we deal with those problems? Because there's always things that are competing for our
[01:57:19.820 --> 01:57:25.420] attention and our anxiety, many of which are not real. And usually the things that you're really
[01:57:25.420 --> 01:57:30.620] the most concerned about don't happen. And it may be sometimes because you have taken a precaution
[01:57:30.620 --> 01:57:40.700] about it. What would you say about that about anxiety? You're starting to break up a little
[01:57:40.700 --> 01:57:45.260] bit. Can you hear me clearly? I hear you. Yes. Yes. Sorry about that. You talk about breaking up
[01:57:45.260 --> 01:57:51.980] a little bit. You're talking about traumatizing a population. What do I do to guard against that
[01:57:51.980 --> 01:57:58.220] type of thing? And of course, that's going to really escalate with the ability of AI to create
[01:57:58.220 --> 01:58:06.940] a narrative. Yeah. Well, let's talk about it as an avenue to get into that. Let's go back to what
[01:58:06.940 --> 01:58:12.700] you brought about the atomic weapons and the atomic war and the fears of people that there's
[01:58:12.700 --> 01:58:19.020] going to be another atomic war. I mean, you know, this is not unrealistic. There's even been a
[01:58:19.020 --> 01:58:23.740] movie that's just come out that's getting all kinds of attention, as you know, and it has to
[01:58:23.740 --> 01:58:32.620] do with the threat of a nuclear war. If you look at what's happening in Europe right now,
[01:58:32.620 --> 01:58:38.140] there's all kinds of suggestions that could lead to a nuclear war. I mean, Ukraine now has announced
[01:58:38.140 --> 01:58:44.620] that they're under no conditions willing to give up any land and Stalin is, I mean Putin is
[01:58:45.260 --> 01:58:50.940] thinking what he can do to change that. Maybe he'll attack another country. I mean, this is
[01:58:50.940 --> 01:58:56.860] scary stuff. So what's happening in response to the government is to try to show that,
[01:58:57.820 --> 01:59:01.740] oh, we shouldn't worry about it. We have things under control, but I don't think things are under
[01:59:01.740 --> 01:59:09.500] control. And we've talked about the problems and we talked about problems. You have your final
[01:59:09.500 --> 01:59:17.420] chapter is new ways of thinking. And I'd like to talk about that. One of the things that you say
[01:59:17.420 --> 01:59:22.860] is Ockham was wrong, Ockham's razor that people are familiar with. Tell us a little bit about that.
[01:59:22.860 --> 01:59:29.980] Why is Ockham wrong? Well, because he says that, you know, the entities are not to be multiplied,
[01:59:29.980 --> 01:59:35.100] meaning that we can always explain things best by limiting ourselves to the minimum amount of
[01:59:35.100 --> 01:59:41.740] factors. Ideally one, one cause of every fact. That's not true. It's certainly not true in the
[01:59:41.740 --> 01:59:47.980] 21st century, where there's all kinds of interactions between factors and causes.
[01:59:47.980 --> 01:59:53.820] So that Ockham was wrong in that basis. We have to think of an interconnecting pool,
[01:59:53.820 --> 01:59:58.220] just as in the brain of interconnections of neurons, interconnections of these problems,
[01:59:58.220 --> 02:00:03.020] and they're all related. They're all related. All eight of them that I talk about in my book,
[02:00:03.020 --> 02:00:08.060] they're all related. And if you can figure a way of influencing one, you influence all the others.
[02:00:09.740 --> 02:00:13.740] I mean, who would think there'd be a connection between global warming and the amount of
[02:00:14.460 --> 02:00:20.220] artisan and cheese, for instance, high end cheese? Well, there is because
[02:00:21.020 --> 02:00:25.020] they don't, chickens don't lay many eggs and it'd be all the various other things
[02:00:25.260 --> 02:00:32.060] to come on in terms of making cheese. I learned that the other day. That was something that was
[02:00:32.060 --> 02:00:36.380] a surprise to me. You know, it's kind of interesting when you talk about connections so much. There was
[02:00:36.380 --> 02:00:41.020] a series that was on, I think it was on PBS. I think the guy's name was Burke. I can't remember
[02:00:41.020 --> 02:00:46.460] his first name. I'm not sure about the last name, but he had a series called Connections. And I
[02:00:46.460 --> 02:00:51.820] thought it was fascinating because what he would do is he would take a whole series of connections
[02:00:51.820 --> 02:00:58.300] to show how a particular technology had evolved. So he might go from the quill to the
[02:00:59.420 --> 02:01:05.900] jet engine or something like that. And it was a fascinating thread of things. It's very much
[02:01:05.900 --> 02:01:13.500] like what you're talking about. It really is. And I did consult his work, actually.
[02:01:13.500 --> 02:01:18.780] Did you? I was writing this book because he did that Connections. He did a book called The Day
[02:01:18.780 --> 02:01:24.300] the World Changed and all this. He also did a book called Circles, in which he would start with one
[02:01:24.300 --> 02:01:29.500] particular event that occurred in history. And if you go around the circle, you come back
[02:01:30.140 --> 02:01:34.940] to the beginning where it started, where this particular inventor invented something.
[02:01:34.940 --> 02:01:40.620] What led up to it? What was the circle leading to that? So yes, we're talking about connections
[02:01:40.620 --> 02:01:47.340] and we're talking about the inability to understand things without reference to supporting and
[02:01:47.340 --> 02:01:52.780] accessory factors. We have that going on all the time, denying things that are going to be
[02:01:52.780 --> 02:01:58.620] happening. And of course, I think the fearful thing is that the government is aiding in this denial
[02:01:59.820 --> 02:02:05.660] because if you deny that there's a problem, then there's very little impetus to try to solve it.
[02:02:07.420 --> 02:02:10.620] Yeah, and if there ain't no problem, don't try to solve it.
[02:02:11.580 --> 02:02:17.820] They're throwing out their own chaos and uncertainty and anxiety that's out there all
[02:02:17.820 --> 02:02:24.460] the time, always, I guess. So the question is, she's talking about volatility, uncertainty,
[02:02:24.460 --> 02:02:29.180] complexity, and ambiguity. I mean, that sounds like a government policy. I think they've got
[02:02:29.180 --> 02:02:35.180] bureaucracies that specialize in that. Yeah, well, actually, that's true.
[02:02:35.180 --> 02:02:39.580] Yeah, that's in your section there about new ways of thinking. And so how do we incorporate that
[02:02:40.140 --> 02:02:43.340] into new ways of thinking that help us to solve this riddle?
[02:02:45.180 --> 02:02:53.260] Well, each of those factors is a factor that helps you to understand things and to have more
[02:02:53.260 --> 02:02:57.740] control. It doesn't necessarily mean it helps you to link them together. That has to be done by
[02:02:57.740 --> 02:03:03.980] original thinking. You have to be under those things. Things are volatile. You don't have a
[02:03:04.620 --> 02:03:11.580] basic situation that doesn't change. It changes all the time. So the other thing that I want to
[02:03:11.580 --> 02:03:18.780] emphasize the most is the role of capitalism in all of this. I mean, there's all this,
[02:03:18.780 --> 02:03:26.060] like the private equity, the business of people having a point of view that is going to advance
[02:03:26.060 --> 02:03:33.900] them financially and that blinding them to the problems that are here. For instance,
[02:03:33.900 --> 02:03:38.780] we talked about global warming. Well, the rich people, the very rich people, are buying
[02:03:38.780 --> 02:03:46.060] multi-million dollar apartments and condominiums which have special air filters which will keep
[02:03:46.060 --> 02:03:54.860] wildfire smoke out and will try to keep the global warming effect at bay by super power
[02:03:57.020 --> 02:04:03.100] air conditioners. Of course, they're building their own bunkers too. They're building things
[02:04:03.100 --> 02:04:10.620] that are creating all kinds of chaos and weapons of war, mass destruction. They're building super
[02:04:10.620 --> 02:04:15.100] bunkers in various places as well. So I think they're somewhat pessimistic about what they're
[02:04:15.100 --> 02:04:21.340] doing. Well, it's basically the idea is that we don't care about the ordinary person. We're
[02:04:21.420 --> 02:04:26.780] going to survive. We're going to see to our own survival. And in order to do that, we have to
[02:04:26.780 --> 02:04:32.380] deny certain things that are going on. We'll do so. Now, incidentally, all of this is not
[02:04:32.380 --> 02:04:38.540] conscious thinking. They don't necessarily say, well, I'm going to deny global warming because
[02:04:38.540 --> 02:04:45.180] it'll be to my advantage financially because all my investment is in the oil and gas industry.
[02:04:45.660 --> 02:04:51.580] They don't do it that way. They come up with pseudo logic, things that seem to make sense to
[02:04:51.580 --> 02:04:57.980] them. But if they didn't have a financial thrust in the matter, they would look out upon it quite
[02:04:57.980 --> 02:05:02.700] differently. That's right. We can always find a justification for what it is that we really want.
[02:05:03.820 --> 02:05:07.340] Everybody should understand that if you're a parent this time of year at Christmas time,
[02:05:07.340 --> 02:05:11.740] you can always understand that people will come up with a justification for what they want. And
[02:05:12.300 --> 02:05:16.060] that's as true of a government as it is of corporations out there. And it's really
[02:05:16.060 --> 02:05:20.220] dangerous when the two of them connect with each other. I think that's one of the things. You talk
[02:05:20.220 --> 02:05:25.580] about connections and the importance of it and how we can try to connect these different factors
[02:05:25.580 --> 02:05:31.020] each of us individually. But I think it's the human connection that is out there that is going to be
[02:05:31.020 --> 02:05:36.380] essential for all of this. It's going to be our collective work on all this. What do you
[02:05:36.380 --> 02:05:41.340] think about that? Would you agree with that? Well, I'd agree with it. But there's so many
[02:05:41.340 --> 02:05:49.020] things that are taking place now that are causing the schisms and splitting people into factors and
[02:05:49.020 --> 02:05:55.740] belief systems and political points of view. And that's very dangerous because then you can't get
[02:05:55.740 --> 02:06:03.260] together any kind of unity even in the face of an emergency. Well, I think we've always had these.
[02:06:03.260 --> 02:06:08.140] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want
[02:06:08.140 --> 02:06:15.020] you to hear about Alejandra. She lives in a remote community with very few resources and little to
[02:06:15.020 --> 02:06:22.140] no health care. So when Alejandra gets sick, her parents have no real options, no doctors in their
[02:06:22.140 --> 02:06:29.100] community, and no money for real medical care. By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[02:06:29.100 --> 02:06:36.380] She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom, I can't take the pain anymore. I can't keep going.
[02:06:36.940 --> 02:06:43.580] Her parents drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[02:06:43.580 --> 02:06:50.140] And that was impossible for her family to afford. And that is when Compassion International stepped
[02:06:50.140 --> 02:06:57.740] in. Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated. And against all odds, she survived. She lived
[02:06:57.740 --> 02:07:04.060] because someone just like you took action. Right now, unfortunately, there are children just like
[02:07:04.060 --> 02:07:10.620] Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like you steps in. Compassion International partners
[02:07:10.620 --> 02:07:17.420] with local churches, providing children with the support that they need, critical medical care,
[02:07:17.420 --> 02:07:25.900] plus food, education, and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus' name. So help a child just like
[02:07:25.900 --> 02:07:33.820] Alejandra today. You can visit Compassion.com. That's Compassion.com. What's going on, Texas?
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[02:08:04.620 --> 02:08:08.060] things like that. You know, the founders of the country warned about factions and political
[02:08:08.060 --> 02:08:13.420] parties. But I think what makes it unique is that when you're interacting with people on a personal
[02:08:13.420 --> 02:08:18.780] basis, you interact with them a little bit differently than if you've got that separation
[02:08:18.780 --> 02:08:23.340] between you that technology is giving us now. Because now you're interacting with something
[02:08:23.340 --> 02:08:27.820] that's abstract. It's not with another person. And there's also the body language that you're
[02:08:27.820 --> 02:08:32.540] not picking up on. But it makes it easier for you to be harder on people when there's that
[02:08:32.540 --> 02:08:37.340] distance there, I think. That's why I think, you know, the personal connection I think is really
[02:08:37.340 --> 02:08:42.540] vital to making these connections and coming up with an understanding of what's going on.
[02:08:42.540 --> 02:08:47.660] We talk about the hidden factors that are out there. Hidden unrelated topics. Other people,
[02:08:47.660 --> 02:08:52.380] as you pointed out earlier, just talking to ordinary people about what it is that you see
[02:08:52.380 --> 02:08:57.660] with different things. I think that is the genius of the collective free market out there that
[02:08:58.540 --> 02:09:04.540] there's so many observers who are looking at things and thinking about them. And it's kind
[02:09:04.540 --> 02:09:10.300] of their collective decision that is kind of guiding things along, as opposed to having a central
[02:09:10.300 --> 02:09:15.500] planner who's doing that. What do you think about that? You've got to, in your final chapter,
[02:09:15.500 --> 02:09:21.820] A New Way of Thinking, you have what you call a sensible solution. What does that really involve?
[02:09:21.820 --> 02:09:26.300] I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said. What's the last part?
[02:09:26.300 --> 02:09:29.900] You have a sensible solution. What do you think a sensible solution to
[02:09:30.620 --> 02:09:36.060] the kind of stress and chaos and anxiety that we have, manipulation that we have,
[02:09:36.060 --> 02:09:41.020] what is the solution to that? Well, I think the Wikipedia is a good example of that.
[02:09:41.020 --> 02:09:45.260] They have people from all walks of life, all levels of education,
[02:09:45.260 --> 02:09:52.140] and free to contribute to whatever topic they may want to do that. It may be health.
[02:09:52.140 --> 02:09:58.300] I mentioned earlier about the effect of global warming on the making of cheese.
[02:09:58.860 --> 02:10:02.300] There might be somebody who makes cheese that's going to come up with some idea.
[02:10:03.340 --> 02:10:08.220] We don't know that. We don't know that that may not be where comes some original idea
[02:10:08.220 --> 02:10:12.300] on what to do about global warming. And you put it on what I'd like to think,
[02:10:12.300 --> 02:10:19.180] and I hope it will be developed, a kind of Wikipedia where the ordinary person can feel free
[02:10:19.180 --> 02:10:24.140] to put forth their ideas about it. Now you say, well, we already have that. We have the internet.
[02:10:24.140 --> 02:10:29.820] No, we don't. The internet is a commercial situation. It's all done for making money
[02:10:29.820 --> 02:10:35.180] and grab attention and all that. And there's no criticism on it. There's no peer review,
[02:10:35.180 --> 02:10:39.740] if you will. Whereas in the Wikipedia, I mean, you know, people could write in and say, well,
[02:10:39.740 --> 02:10:45.100] that particular contribution is bonkers, and then give an example why it is, or that was a
[02:10:45.100 --> 02:10:52.380] very good idea. And after that, you begin to get things coming together in unpredictable ways that
[02:10:52.380 --> 02:10:58.220] may help us solve these eight problems. Yeah. The problem is, it seems like whenever you wind
[02:10:58.220 --> 02:11:02.940] up having a forum or a place where things can be, and that's true of the internet, it's also true
[02:11:02.940 --> 02:11:09.020] of Wikipedia, then it becomes, you have gatekeepers who are there. And we saw this
[02:11:09.020 --> 02:11:14.380] in spades throughout the COVID stuff that if somebody's got a different idea, rather than
[02:11:14.380 --> 02:11:22.380] debate them, the impetus is to silence them by the people who are in authority. And so that really,
[02:11:22.380 --> 02:11:28.620] I think, is the key thing. And I think as part of that, we see a continuing rise in
[02:11:28.620 --> 02:11:38.780] in disgust and deprivation of free speech. People are not interested in the principle
[02:11:38.780 --> 02:11:43.340] of free speech. They don't want to have open debate. And I see this regardless of where people
[02:11:43.340 --> 02:11:50.700] are coming from on the political spectrum. There is a declining interest in debate and thinking.
[02:11:50.700 --> 02:11:56.300] You know, the debate is critical to critical thinking. And so the people who are in charge,
[02:11:57.020 --> 02:12:01.820] the gatekeepers with their Wikipedia or the internet or, you know, any other form of
[02:12:01.820 --> 02:12:07.980] information, they are weighing in on that. And they don't want things that they disagree with.
[02:12:07.980 --> 02:12:11.340] And it might be because they've got an agenda, or it might be because they've just got a
[02:12:11.900 --> 02:12:17.420] particular prejudice about something. They want to make sure that the contrary views don't get
[02:12:17.420 --> 02:12:23.260] out there. That, I think, is the real key that's there. And again, this is part of this
[02:12:24.220 --> 02:12:30.140] atomization that we have of people feeding that tribalism in a way that we've never seen it before
[02:12:30.140 --> 02:12:36.300] using technology. I would agree with everything you've just said, exactly. And I think we have
[02:12:36.300 --> 02:12:43.180] to try to get beyond that. But we get back again to this business of people having their own personal
[02:12:43.180 --> 02:12:50.940] financial point of view and position and pushing that basically on the fact that they look upon
[02:12:50.940 --> 02:12:57.020] it as. So maybe we're talking about a capitalism problem. We've got capitalism. That's what this
[02:12:57.020 --> 02:13:01.020] country is all about. But I mean, it's certain parts of it now. We've gotten to the point where
[02:13:01.020 --> 02:13:07.820] people are unable to take another point of view if it's going to be financially harmful and hurtful
[02:13:07.820 --> 02:13:14.620] to them. Yeah. I think that, you know, we started looking at the tech companies. I don't think that
[02:13:14.620 --> 02:13:18.300] their capitalism would exist. I don't think they'd have billions of dollars if they weren't unified
[02:13:18.300 --> 02:13:25.900] with the government. So there's a symbiosis there that the two of these entities feed off of each
[02:13:25.900 --> 02:13:33.340] other. And I think that nexus right there is the difficult thing. And so I think, you know,
[02:13:33.340 --> 02:13:39.100] when I think of capitalism, I don't like to refer to capitalism anymore because I think of it as a
[02:13:39.100 --> 02:13:45.020] partnership, a public-private partnership, some kind of an economic fascism where they are working
[02:13:45.020 --> 02:13:48.860] together. But I like to think of a free competitive market where the government
[02:13:49.500 --> 02:13:54.220] doesn't have any role except as some kind of a referee between two parties that have a conflict
[02:13:54.220 --> 02:13:59.180] or something. But yeah, that's the thing that's really driving this. You know, many people,
[02:13:59.180 --> 02:14:02.140] when they talk about AI, they said, well, you know, here's a couple of different outcomes.
[02:14:03.100 --> 02:14:06.380] Maybe this stuff really works the way it's supposed to work and takes everybody's jobs,
[02:14:06.380 --> 02:14:10.780] and we wind up with a depression. Or maybe it doesn't work at all, in which case the big
[02:14:11.340 --> 02:14:15.500] AI stock bubble that we've got bursts and everybody loses their job because of that.
[02:14:16.140 --> 02:14:20.460] And so there's a third alternative, and that is that the government keeps propping it up
[02:14:20.460 --> 02:14:28.860] with public funds because it feeds their surveillance and manipulation needs, their ability
[02:14:28.860 --> 02:14:34.460] to surveil and to control us. And I really think that that's where this is all going to head. I
[02:14:34.460 --> 02:14:38.620] don't really, you know, those other two things may happen and they may be true, but I think
[02:14:38.620 --> 02:14:44.300] there is a customer out there for the AI stuff that is driving all this stuff that has been
[02:14:44.300 --> 02:14:47.900] putting out these proposals for the longest time. And that's governments, governments around the
[02:14:47.900 --> 02:14:52.700] world. I mean, we look at the brain project that we had a few years ago. That was during
[02:14:52.700 --> 02:14:58.380] the Obama administration, but things like the brain computer interface that Elon Musk and many
[02:14:58.380 --> 02:15:03.420] other tech companies are doing out there, this Neuralink, and there's a lot of them that are
[02:15:03.420 --> 02:15:10.060] doing that. That's being driven by the government wanting to connect into our minds, hack into our
[02:15:10.060 --> 02:15:14.620] minds really. And they've been funding that kind of stuff. So how do we, how do we break that?
[02:15:14.620 --> 02:15:20.700] Yeah. On the Musk side, he's doing it for money. I mean, obviously to make money. That's right.
[02:15:20.700 --> 02:15:26.220] So that there's an unholy alliance, if you will, between someone who can't see anything other than
[02:15:26.220 --> 02:15:31.020] the dollar and in another side, the government can't see anything other than increasing power
[02:15:31.020 --> 02:15:36.140] and surveillance over the population. Yeah, that's right. Absolutely true. Well, it's a
[02:15:36.140 --> 02:15:41.660] fascinating book. It's fascinating take on this. And, and of course you've written many books
[02:15:41.660 --> 02:15:48.860] on the brain, the memory one, very interesting. And you do have sections about memory in this book
[02:15:48.860 --> 02:15:53.340] as well. And people will be able to find this on Amazon, I guess is the best place that they can
[02:15:53.340 --> 02:16:01.740] find it. Looking for the title of this. And it is, you know, it is something that I think we all
[02:16:01.740 --> 02:16:07.740] need to think about how we're going to operate the effects that this technology is having on
[02:16:07.740 --> 02:16:12.460] our brains in the 21st century. And that is the title of the book, The 21st Century Brain
[02:16:13.260 --> 02:16:18.300] by Richard Restak. Thank you very much, Dr. Restak. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on.
[02:16:18.300 --> 02:16:22.060] Good day. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you. Very interesting conversation. Thank you. Have
[02:16:22.060 --> 02:16:26.220] a good day, folks. We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.
[02:17:22.060 --> 02:17:41.500] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want
[02:17:41.500 --> 02:17:48.460] you to hear about Alejandra. She lives in a remote community with very few resources and little to
[02:17:48.460 --> 02:17:55.580] no healthcare. So when Alejandra gets sick, her parents have no real options, no doctors in their
[02:17:55.580 --> 02:18:02.460] community and no money for real medical care. By the third day, her body was shutting down.
[02:18:02.460 --> 02:18:09.740] She woke up and just long enough to tell her mom, I can't take the pain anymore. I can't keep going.
[02:18:10.300 --> 02:18:16.940] Her parents drove hours to find a doctor who tried everything, but she needed a private hospital.
[02:18:16.940 --> 02:18:23.500] And that was impossible for her family to afford. And that is when Compassion International stepped
[02:18:23.500 --> 02:18:30.540] in. Now, through compassion, Alejandra was treated and against all odds, she survived.
[02:18:30.540 --> 02:18:36.300] She lived because someone just like you took action. Right now, unfortunately, there are
[02:18:36.300 --> 02:18:42.780] children just like Alejandra who won't survive unless someone like you steps in. Compassion
[02:18:42.780 --> 02:18:48.460] International partners with local churches, providing children with the support that they need,
[02:18:49.020 --> 02:18:57.100] critical medical care, plus food, education, and the hope of the gospel, all in Jesus name.
[02:18:57.100 --> 02:19:05.500] So help a child just like Alejandra today. You can visit compassion.com. That's compassion.com.
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[02:20:00.940 --> 02:20:11.020] So that brings us to something that Lance found that I thought was very interesting.
[02:20:11.900 --> 02:20:22.460] And that is the brain interface transference here that is a company that is called, hang on a second,
[02:20:22.460 --> 02:20:29.580] I'll get it right here. The brain IT. Brain IT is their thing. And they're not the only company
[02:20:29.580 --> 02:20:34.140] that's doing this. There's a lot of different companies that are doing this. And let's show
[02:20:34.140 --> 02:20:40.620] people what this really looks like. Scroll down and zoom in on those pictures. Now there's pairs
[02:20:40.620 --> 02:20:47.500] of pictures. And you'll see an image that the person is looking at. It says scene image. Right
[02:20:47.500 --> 02:20:53.180] next to it is the reconstructed image. And look at that. There's a giraffe. And then right next to
[02:20:53.180 --> 02:20:59.500] it is a giraffe. But the giraffe is standing in exactly the same position and same way.
[02:21:00.620 --> 02:21:04.140] And looked at from the same angle. Looking kind of back over its shoulder.
[02:21:04.140 --> 02:21:10.220] To be clear, the scene image is what the human is looking at. And then there is sensors connected
[02:21:10.220 --> 02:21:16.300] to the brain that's creating the reconstructed image. The computer hasn't seen this scene image.
[02:21:16.300 --> 02:21:20.060] Only the human sees this. And this is entirely constructed from a brain scan.
[02:21:20.060 --> 02:21:25.340] That's right. So they can sense what you are looking at and completely reconstruct it. And
[02:21:25.340 --> 02:21:32.940] look at how identical these images are. Now you got a stop sign. And it got a stop sign as well
[02:21:32.940 --> 02:21:38.060] as the word stop. The only thing that's missing there is the four way thing underneath it. It
[02:21:38.060 --> 02:21:46.940] didn't quite reconstruct that exactly. And then when you look at the pieces of pizza, it is a
[02:21:46.940 --> 02:21:51.500] little bit more orderly in the way that it put the pizza together that's there. But even when
[02:21:51.500 --> 02:21:57.100] it gets some of the details wrong, it still has the basic orientation there. Scroll it up a little
[02:21:57.100 --> 02:22:03.740] bit. The snowboarder that is there. Take a look at the snowboarder. So here the basic orientation
[02:22:03.740 --> 02:22:09.500] is right. Even though the snowboarder has one leg up, the arms are still extended and
[02:22:10.780 --> 02:22:16.700] still in basically the same orientation. It's going down the snow with a shadow of this main cast.
[02:22:16.700 --> 02:22:21.580] But it is truly amazing. Show the baseball one. That's another good one that's there.
[02:22:22.300 --> 02:22:26.620] So the baseball thing. You got three different people. And they are all basically in the same
[02:22:26.620 --> 02:22:31.100] orientation. The one again on the left is the actual picture that the human is looking at.
[02:22:31.100 --> 02:22:38.140] The one on the right is the reconstruction by monitoring his brain. And then the computer
[02:22:38.140 --> 02:22:42.700] is reconstructing that one on the right. And so you've got a catcher who is squatting and
[02:22:42.780 --> 02:22:48.620] got one arm extended out and that is captured again. And then the umpire behind him who is
[02:22:48.620 --> 02:22:53.820] in the same crouching position even though the colors change a little bit. It still has that
[02:22:53.820 --> 02:22:59.500] there. And then moving up to the room, the motel room. Look at that. It even has the same color
[02:22:59.500 --> 02:23:09.100] bedspread there. And the one above it, we have the motorcycle still in exactly the same angle.
[02:23:09.100 --> 02:23:13.580] And it figured out there's a person on a racing motorcycle even though it got the colors slightly
[02:23:13.580 --> 02:23:18.380] different on that. It truly is amazing. Interesting to me because it's little details that it gets
[02:23:18.380 --> 02:23:23.820] wrong that if you were to remember this image you would probably get a lot of these same details
[02:23:23.820 --> 02:23:28.380] wrong. Like exactly the color scheme of their clothes. That's right. But it still gets the
[02:23:28.380 --> 02:23:32.620] general color scheme across all three of them. Yeah. The three people standing there for the
[02:23:32.620 --> 02:23:38.940] skiing thing. And again the jet, the military jet, it gets a little bit of the details on the
[02:23:38.940 --> 02:23:44.780] bottom that are different. But it basically has it all there. So it is pretty much getting the
[02:23:44.780 --> 02:23:49.980] gist of it just as Lance said. You would remember that when you come back. Now what is interesting
[02:23:49.980 --> 02:23:55.660] about this, I think, is the fact that it's not just one company that's doing this. There are
[02:23:55.660 --> 02:24:02.460] at least eleven, let's say a dozen, companies that are out there. I bet you, we didn't look
[02:24:02.460 --> 02:24:07.900] this up, but I bet you every single one of them has got grants from DARPA or some federal agency.
[02:24:07.900 --> 02:24:13.980] Most likely DARPA in order to do this kind of stuff. What is the use case for something like
[02:24:13.980 --> 02:24:20.300] this? And how did they put it together? Well, this particular company is bragging about how superior
[02:24:20.300 --> 02:24:29.820] their method is. They use fMRI. The MRI scanner that you have, they put you in the machine and
[02:24:30.700 --> 02:24:36.700] scan your brain and things like that. I had several of those done. This is functional MRI.
[02:24:36.700 --> 02:24:43.260] And what it does, instead of looking at the structure of the brain and seeing whether
[02:24:44.060 --> 02:24:49.100] you know physical alterations to the brain after a stroke or something like that,
[02:24:49.100 --> 02:24:56.940] it looks at changes in the brain that are happening dynamically over time. And so that's what the
[02:24:56.940 --> 02:25:03.660] functional MRI is about. Rather than looking at the physiology or the structure of the brain,
[02:25:03.660 --> 02:25:09.980] it's actually looking at the dynamic brain activity. And so to train these models,
[02:25:09.980 --> 02:25:16.780] one of the things that this company is bragging about is that they spend about an hour training it
[02:25:17.900 --> 02:25:23.740] and their competitors might spend 40 hours training it. And they get far superior results.
[02:25:23.740 --> 02:25:28.460] It truly is amazing when you look at how long they spend training it and how much better
[02:25:31.180 --> 02:25:38.140] their recognition is, being able to sense what you are seeing and thinking about and basically
[02:25:38.140 --> 02:25:44.380] reading your mind. And so it is the brain interaction transformer. They call themselves
[02:25:44.380 --> 02:25:50.780] BIT. Now what do they do? What is the training? Well, it turns out that everybody has these
[02:25:50.780 --> 02:26:05.420] localized patch level image features. And so they call them clusters. And so they're looking at brain
[02:26:05.420 --> 02:26:12.380] voxel clusters. And they say, all humans have this, but these clusters will be located in
[02:26:12.380 --> 02:26:17.820] different places on different subjects. Same thing, but it will be slightly moved around.
[02:26:17.820 --> 02:26:23.100] You know, when you have a stroke, they call it brain plasticity. And so when you have a stroke,
[02:26:23.740 --> 02:26:30.060] part of your brain dies. And if you get the functionality back, it's because another part
[02:26:30.060 --> 02:26:35.260] of your brain has taken up that activity. And they said, so some very, very young children,
[02:26:35.820 --> 02:26:43.100] maybe in infancy, might have a stroke that would affect, for example, their speech.
[02:26:43.740 --> 02:26:49.100] And what they found is that even though that might reside on one side of their brain versus
[02:26:49.100 --> 02:26:53.500] the other side of the brain, those young children, when they have the stroke that affects the side
[02:26:53.500 --> 02:26:58.460] of the brain where normally speech would be, they found that as they learned to speak,
[02:26:59.100 --> 02:27:03.660] the other side of their brain picks it up. And so that's what's called brain plasticity. In other
[02:27:03.660 --> 02:27:08.060] words, it can adapt and train that other side of the brain to take over those functions.
[02:27:08.060 --> 02:27:13.820] So that's what they're basically looking at here with these voxel clusters. They know that
[02:27:16.060 --> 02:27:20.060] certain things are going to be fired. They just don't know exactly where that's going to be
[02:27:20.060 --> 02:27:25.420] in a person's brain. So they spend an hour mapping those things out. And then they get very,
[02:27:25.420 --> 02:27:32.780] very accurate results. And what they do is they split it into two different aspects. One of them
[02:27:32.780 --> 02:27:38.780] is the semantics. And I think what that does is kind of give them a context. So when you look at
[02:27:38.780 --> 02:27:42.780] how, oh, you've got two people standing, and they're kind of standing in this particular
[02:27:42.780 --> 02:27:47.660] orientation, picks up that. And then the other one is more about the details that are there.
[02:27:47.660 --> 02:27:53.500] And then they run these two different paths. So first, they have programs that are looking at
[02:27:53.500 --> 02:28:00.780] the voxel clusters, creating a kind of semantic context. The other one is creating a context for
[02:28:00.780 --> 02:28:05.980] the features. And then they take the output of those two things and put them into something
[02:28:05.980 --> 02:28:10.380] else that combines and sums those things together to give them that kind of image.
[02:28:10.380 --> 02:28:14.300] It's pretty interesting in terms of the technology that is there. But I think it is absolutely
[02:28:14.300 --> 02:28:20.060] abhorrent that they're doing this. I can't think of any reason for them to do something like this.
[02:28:20.060 --> 02:28:24.380] Now they'll come up with some kind of a fake justification, just like they're talking about
[02:28:24.380 --> 02:28:31.180] with creating babies with a hatchery. Oh, well, we'll do it to save people from some kind of
[02:28:31.180 --> 02:28:37.180] genetic disease. And they're leaning into that excuse, leaning into that narrative by calling
[02:28:37.180 --> 02:28:44.060] their company preventive. But these are the kinds of things. When we look at this, actually,
[02:28:45.020 --> 02:28:51.340] pull up the one that's titled brain interaction transformer. And when you look at that chart,
[02:28:51.900 --> 02:28:55.660] you'll see that in their chart, when they're talking about the cross transformer module,
[02:28:56.220 --> 02:29:00.540] they've got that listed there twice. And guess what? They misspelled transformer.
[02:29:02.060 --> 02:29:05.100] I'm being a little bit of a grammar Nazi here, but I got to just say that, you know,
[02:29:05.100 --> 02:29:09.660] we're talking about things like this. The little details matter. And I wonder what happens when
[02:29:09.660 --> 02:29:14.700] you switch some of the stuff, reconstructing things, and it's a critical mission. I don't know.
[02:29:14.700 --> 02:29:18.700] To be honest, this sounds a lot more like a Decepticon ploy than the Transformers to me,
[02:29:18.700 --> 02:29:25.180] but what do I know? Yeah, it sounds pretty crazy to me. Look at one last one here, and that is
[02:29:25.180 --> 02:29:28.700] comparing their images to these other models that are out there.
[02:29:30.460 --> 02:29:35.260] They're companies called Brain IT, and they compare it to some other companies,
[02:29:35.340 --> 02:29:43.260] Mind Turner, Mind Eye 2, Neuro VLA. And so look at this.
[02:29:43.260 --> 02:29:47.100] They're the best mind reader on the market right now.
[02:29:48.380 --> 02:29:54.860] Yeah, that's absolutely right. The interesting one, I think, is the last one, the Neuro VLA,
[02:29:54.860 --> 02:30:00.620] because it always gets the object correct, but it gets it in a very different context.
[02:30:00.620 --> 02:30:06.460] Yeah, that's right. Yeah, so that first row there, you're seeing a bowl of some white stuff.
[02:30:06.460 --> 02:30:10.060] Maybe it's oatmeal or something, and you're seeing a banana right next to it. And then when
[02:30:10.060 --> 02:30:16.620] you look at the Neuro VLA, they've got a bowl, and then they've got a banana, but it's not at all
[02:30:16.620 --> 02:30:23.180] in the same orientation. And Brain IT was able to do that. And you see that repeated over and
[02:30:23.180 --> 02:30:28.140] over again. They kind of get some of it, but they don't get all of it. And you know, it's kind of
[02:30:28.140 --> 02:30:38.060] interesting. What it reminded me of was this. Mr. Venman, Ghostbusters. Where? Good guess, but wrong.
[02:30:42.700 --> 02:30:47.180] I heard that from Bill Murray, and the mind reading thing opened up Ghostbusters.
[02:30:48.460 --> 02:30:52.380] I wonder if they shock these people who created these models. Do they get it right?
[02:30:53.420 --> 02:30:54.380] Tell me what you think it is.
[02:30:54.380 --> 02:31:00.860] Is it a star? It is a star.
[02:31:03.580 --> 02:31:05.420] And yet you can see from behind him that it wasn't.
[02:31:07.020 --> 02:31:07.580] Think hard.
[02:31:11.260 --> 02:31:13.580] Circle. Close.
[02:31:14.380 --> 02:31:15.980] This spot is definitely wrong.
[02:31:22.460 --> 02:31:23.820] All right, ready?
[02:31:28.060 --> 02:31:28.540] What is it?
[02:31:34.780 --> 02:31:35.420] Figure eight.
[02:31:39.100 --> 02:31:42.060] Incredible. That's five for five. You can't see these, can you?
[02:31:43.020 --> 02:31:45.820] You're not cheating. No, I swear they're just coming to me.
[02:31:47.820 --> 02:31:48.140] Okay.
[02:31:50.300 --> 02:31:59.260] Nervous? Yes. I don't like this. You only have 75 more to go. Okay. What's this one?
[02:32:04.140 --> 02:32:07.340] It's a couple of wavy lines. Sorry. You got it right.
[02:32:12.620 --> 02:32:19.740] Wait, yeah. Um, it's, it's, I, it's no, I, I'm getting a little tired of this.
[02:32:19.740 --> 02:32:22.460] You volunteered, didn't you? We're paying you, aren't we?
[02:32:22.460 --> 02:32:25.340] Yeah, but I didn't know you were going to be giving me electric shocks.
[02:32:26.060 --> 02:32:28.220] What are you trying to prove here anyway?
[02:32:28.220 --> 02:32:32.380] I'm studying the effect of negative reinforcement on ESP ability.
[02:32:32.380 --> 02:32:36.140] The effect? I'll tell you what the effect is. It's pissing me off.
[02:32:36.140 --> 02:32:39.580] Well, then maybe my theory is correct. You can keep the five bucks. I've had it.
[02:32:39.580 --> 02:32:40.460] I will, Mr.
[02:32:43.180 --> 02:32:48.860] Keep the five bucks. I wonder what they pay these people to go through an hour of MRI.
[02:32:48.860 --> 02:32:52.140] It's the kind of resentment that your ability is going to provoke in some people.
[02:32:53.740 --> 02:32:58.700] Yeah. So, uh, yeah, that's kind of interesting, but now they're doing it for real. Okay. They're
[02:32:58.700 --> 02:33:05.180] going to use AI, uh, to read people's minds. And again, when they list out a table and they, um,
[02:33:06.140 --> 02:33:10.860] compare themselves percentage wise to these other, uh, people, you see that there are
[02:33:11.420 --> 02:33:14.780] 11 of these companies that are out there doing this stuff.
[02:33:15.340 --> 02:33:19.740] And who is paying them? I bet it is some evil organization like
[02:34:05.180 --> 02:34:25.740] it's Ben Ferguson. And I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute. And I want you
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[02:36:04.220 --> 02:36:10.700] Is it all just about the winning? When we look at this, is it winning everything and the only thing?
[02:36:10.700 --> 02:36:17.580] No, I don't think that's the case. We really need to have meaningful moral reform. You know,
[02:36:17.580 --> 02:36:21.500] there's an excellent article and I've talked about William Wilberforce in the past, but there's an
[02:36:21.500 --> 02:36:30.060] excellent article talking about what he wrote in 1807 when he stopped the slave trade.
[02:36:31.820 --> 02:36:36.060] And we're not going to go through all the details of it, but just to make you aware of it.
[02:36:36.860 --> 02:36:40.940] It was called A Letter on the Abolition of the Slave Trade by William Wilberforce.
[02:36:41.660 --> 02:36:45.500] It was published less than a month before the British parliament voted overwhelmingly to
[02:36:45.500 --> 02:36:51.820] abolish the slave trade. And it encapsulates two decades of relentless effort by Wilberforce.
[02:36:52.540 --> 02:36:55.580] One historian aptly described that parliamentary vote as, quote,
[02:36:55.580 --> 02:37:01.020] one of the turning events in the history of the world. And it was. Slavery has always existed
[02:37:01.820 --> 02:37:10.860] at every time and in every culture. But it was William Wilberforce who single-handedly started
[02:37:11.500 --> 02:37:15.900] to turn this tide and he did it because of his Christian principles. And that's the point of
[02:37:15.900 --> 02:37:25.260] this article to talk about how effective and how necessary it is for Christians to hold to those
[02:37:25.260 --> 02:37:30.860] principles. It's not just about winning. It's not about that at all. The whole reason he did this
[02:37:30.860 --> 02:37:38.140] fight and understand, take the biggest things that are out there. This is like one guy taking
[02:37:38.140 --> 02:37:44.140] on all of the technocracy or one guy taking on all of the oil industry or all the military
[02:37:44.140 --> 02:37:50.540] industrial complex or all the pharmaceutical or roll those all together. Big pharma, big food,
[02:37:51.580 --> 02:37:55.260] the military industrial complex, roll those all together. That was slavery at the time
[02:37:55.820 --> 02:38:01.980] in his country. He took all that on and he won. And he won because he stood on principle.
[02:38:03.660 --> 02:38:07.900] Wilberforce's work is not merely historical. It provides a timeless model for how Christians
[02:38:08.220 --> 02:38:13.820] and should engage in public life. It calls us to integrate faith, reason, and courage
[02:38:14.620 --> 02:38:20.780] into our engagement with public policy. Wilberforce's approach to public policy
[02:38:20.780 --> 02:38:24.060] was unapologetically grounded in Christian morality. By the way, this article is from
[02:38:24.060 --> 02:38:30.220] Christian Post. He spoke boldly as a Christian in parliament addressing his nation's accountability
[02:38:30.220 --> 02:38:36.860] to God. Even in a society that might appear more receptive to Christian values than our own,
[02:38:37.740 --> 02:38:46.220] such declarations were not always welcome. Not even in Britain at that time, which is far more
[02:38:46.220 --> 02:38:50.460] accepting of Christian values than America is now. Wilberforce begins and ends with a
[02:38:50.460 --> 02:38:56.780] solemn warning. He said the slave trade was an abominable evil that placed the British
[02:38:56.780 --> 02:39:04.380] Empire under the judgment of God. His moral clarity cut through the political expediency
[02:39:04.380 --> 02:39:09.580] challenging his contemporaries to see the slave trade not as an economic necessity,
[02:39:10.460 --> 02:39:16.860] but as a profound moral failing. Same thing is true of abortion today, isn't it?
[02:39:17.500 --> 02:39:25.020] And so many other issues. We always have culture is downstream from religion and politics is
[02:39:25.020 --> 02:39:30.780] downstream from culture. Wilberforce paired his moral convictions with meticulous research
[02:39:30.780 --> 02:39:38.780] and evidence. He often spent 14 hours a day studying and gathering facts about the slave
[02:39:38.780 --> 02:39:43.980] trade, a pace that he eventually moderated for the sake of his health. The rigorous preparation,
[02:39:43.980 --> 02:39:49.660] though, allowed him to systematically counter every objection raised by his opponents. Folks,
[02:39:49.660 --> 02:39:56.220] if you don't read, you can't lead. You got to lead with the facts, especially if you're going
[02:39:56.220 --> 02:40:02.700] to do things in the name of truth, in the name of morality, and do things in the name of God.
[02:40:02.700 --> 02:40:07.340] You've got to lead with the truth, and you've got to know what that is.
[02:40:09.020 --> 02:40:12.700] In his letter on the abolition of the slave trade, Wilberforce methodically dismantled
[02:40:12.700 --> 02:40:16.700] pro-slavery arguments, presenting a case so thorough, so compelling that it could not be
[02:40:16.700 --> 02:40:22.540] ignored. This work underscores the importance of combining moral passion with intellectual
[02:40:22.540 --> 02:40:31.260] precision and a lot of hard work. He said, it's not enough to simply declare what is right,
[02:40:31.260 --> 02:40:37.500] we have to also engage in reasoned, evidence-based advocacy. Whether the issue is religious freedom,
[02:40:38.140 --> 02:40:42.540] the sanctity of life, or justice for the marginalized, we must be prepared to make
[02:40:42.540 --> 02:40:49.900] our case with clarity and convictions for us today. He faced fierce opposition from
[02:40:49.900 --> 02:40:54.460] powerful interests tied to the slave trade and to colonial economies, and at one point he was
[02:40:54.460 --> 02:41:01.260] challenged to a duel by a slave ship captain, and he received multiple death threats yet he pressed on
[02:41:01.980 --> 02:41:08.620] with unwavering determination. Wilberforce confronts his opponents head on in his book,
[02:41:09.500 --> 02:41:16.380] arguing that the abolition of the slave trade would ultimately benefit the economy. He declared
[02:41:16.380 --> 02:41:22.860] that even if economic losses occurred, the moral imperative to end, quote, the most enormous crime
[02:41:23.420 --> 02:41:28.700] of slavery outweighed everything else. You know, we have to understand, and the
[02:41:28.700 --> 02:41:35.740] founders of this country understood, that prosperity, like liberty, are a blessing from God,
[02:41:36.780 --> 02:41:42.780] and that should be our first concern. Our first concern should be to seek God's blessing,
[02:41:43.740 --> 02:41:46.460] and that means that we follow the principles that he laid out.
[02:41:47.980 --> 02:41:52.140] As I say here in the Christian Post for Christians Today, engaging in public life often means standing
[02:41:52.140 --> 02:42:01.420] against cultural tides, enduring criticism, and hostility. Wilberforce's example challenges
[02:42:01.420 --> 02:42:08.300] us to speak the truth and love regardless of the cost. Transformational change is possible
[02:42:08.940 --> 02:42:15.020] when Christians engage the public square with conviction and perseverance. That is the legacy
[02:42:15.900 --> 02:42:18.540] that was taught to us by William Wilberforce.
[02:42:38.300 --> 02:42:42.620] David Knight got gold to get in touch with the wise wolf himself,
[02:42:42.620 --> 02:42:50.540] Tony Arterburn. He knows where to look to find silver and gold.
[02:43:38.300 --> 02:43:59.820] Hey, it's Ben Ferguson, and I want you to pause what you're doing for just one minute, and I want
[02:43:59.820 --> 02:44:06.460] you to hear about love, generosity, and compassion. We say those words all the time, and they sound
[02:44:06.460 --> 02:44:12.140] good. They feel good. But here's the truth. Those words don't mean anything unless they
[02:44:12.140 --> 02:44:18.940] turn into action. And right now, not later today, not tomorrow, there's a child in the world who
[02:44:18.940 --> 02:44:26.060] doesn't know if they'll eat, if they'll have a chance to learn, or if there's any hope at all.
[02:44:26.060 --> 02:44:32.380] And while we're all busy, life keeps moving forward, but that child is waiting. This is
[02:44:32.380 --> 02:44:38.540] where you come in. With Compassion International, you have the chance to change a child's future,
[02:44:38.540 --> 02:44:45.820] not just with words, not with promises, but with real help that provides food, education, and hope
[02:44:45.820 --> 02:44:53.660] through local churches and people already in their community. Put your words into action and join me.
[02:44:53.660 --> 02:45:01.900] Introduce a child to a loving Heavenly Father today at Compassion.com. That's Compassion.com.
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[02:47:50.860 --> 02:48:19.980] Hi,
[02:48:19.980 --> 02:48:25.500] my name is Brian Hooker, and I'm the Chief Scientific Officer for Children's Health Defense.
[02:48:25.500 --> 02:48:32.860] And I want to talk to you about an important initiative of CHD called the COVID Index.
[02:48:32.860 --> 02:48:39.180] This is the information that the powers that be did not want you to see. This web repository
[02:48:39.740 --> 02:48:47.660] refutes the narrative, the official narrative regarding COVID-19. It has a very, very
[02:48:47.660 --> 02:48:55.260] comprehensive, easy-to-use search engine, so you can search readily and also get direct excerpts
[02:48:55.260 --> 02:49:03.020] from every entry in the COVID Index. There's so much information out there that needs to be
[02:49:03.020 --> 02:49:09.020] curated, and this is a place where it has been done and is being done continuously.
[02:49:09.260 --> 02:49:15.980] I highly recommend that you check out this resource at www.covidindex.science.
[02:49:19.580 --> 02:49:23.660] All right, welcome back. That was a little introductory video that you'll find at that
[02:49:23.660 --> 02:49:30.220] site, covidindex.science. I didn't even know they had a dot science. I guess they did that in honor
[02:49:30.220 --> 02:49:36.300] of Fauci. It'd be interesting to get the domain name, I am dot science.
[02:49:38.220 --> 02:49:44.460] Joining us now is Dr. Brian Hooker. He's a Chief Scientific Officer at Children's Health Defense,
[02:49:45.020 --> 02:49:50.220] formerly the Department Chair and Professor Emeritus of Biology at Simpson University,
[02:49:50.220 --> 02:49:54.940] and I have been following his very valuable research and the very valuable things that
[02:49:54.940 --> 02:50:00.700] Children's Health Defense had through this massive pandemic MacGuffin that we always talk about.
[02:50:03.020 --> 02:50:08.700] We can look at this stuff, and we can understand the motivations of these people,
[02:50:08.700 --> 02:50:13.500] and we can sanity check it, but it's important to have the scientific information that's there as
[02:50:13.500 --> 02:50:19.740] well, and that's what Dr. Hooker provides. It was actually Children's Health Defense, and I think
[02:50:19.740 --> 02:50:31.500] Icon, that when they sued the CDC, the CDC is part of the vaccine holding them not responsible
[02:50:31.500 --> 02:50:36.540] for any damage that they did to the kids. I forget the exact name of it, the 1986 act, and
[02:50:37.420 --> 02:50:40.860] you probably know what that is, Dr. Hooker. What's the name of that official act?
[02:50:40.860 --> 02:50:47.740] It's called the 1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and it set up the National Vaccine
[02:50:47.740 --> 02:50:54.380] Injury Compensation Program, and the program was up and running in about 1989.
[02:50:54.380 --> 02:50:58.380] And they were supposed to be tracking as part of that agreement. They were supposed to track
[02:50:59.100 --> 02:51:05.020] the adverse events and to make recommendations and so forth, and so I remember RFK Jr. and
[02:51:05.020 --> 02:51:11.340] Del Bigtree at Icon asked them, you know, we'd like to see your records and see what recommendations
[02:51:11.340 --> 02:51:15.420] you have made and so forth and so on. They stalled and stalled and stalled and wouldn't comply with
[02:51:15.420 --> 02:51:20.300] it. Finally, they had a judge that forced them to give the information. You can see that for
[02:51:20.300 --> 02:51:25.820] 30 plus years, they had not been concerned about any of this stuff. They'd kept no records at all,
[02:51:25.820 --> 02:51:30.220] and so it's very important when we come into this, if we understand what the priorities of these
[02:51:30.220 --> 02:51:35.980] people are, that it's not your health, that it's the profits of the corporations and the revolving
[02:51:35.980 --> 02:51:41.100] door that is there. That's an important thing to start with, but what Dr. Hooker has provided
[02:51:41.100 --> 02:51:47.020] is beyond that, and it gives us the tools that we need in order to try to help educate people,
[02:51:47.020 --> 02:51:53.100] and they've got a new resource now, covidindex.science. So with that long introduction,
[02:51:53.100 --> 02:51:55.980] thank you so much for joining us. I really do appreciate you coming on today.
[02:51:56.780 --> 02:52:02.460] Well, you're very welcome, and I'm excited that Children's Health Defense is hosting
[02:52:02.460 --> 02:52:11.020] covidindex.science. It is such an amazing repository of information of all things
[02:52:11.020 --> 02:52:19.180] around the covid era, and now what's going on in the post-covid era. The mess that was created
[02:52:19.180 --> 02:52:26.700] by the whole pandemic needs to be cleaned up, and that's the fallout. We're continuing to see
[02:52:26.700 --> 02:52:35.500] publications come out, and publications that we feel are bad or fraudulent that are not good
[02:52:35.500 --> 02:52:41.740] science. We want to make sure that those are critiqued in the covidindex, and then also the
[02:52:41.740 --> 02:52:48.220] good science that's coming out so people will know what's going on with things like remdesivir,
[02:52:48.220 --> 02:52:56.220] hospital protocols, the vaccine, the therapies that work that have been disparaged like ivermetin,
[02:52:56.860 --> 02:53:06.460] and hydroxychloroquine, and vitamin D3, and zinc. So we've got sort of a historical basis,
[02:53:06.460 --> 02:53:15.100] and we've built this edifice of information, and it's a living database. We're always updating
[02:53:15.100 --> 02:53:22.700] the covidindex, so when things come out, then we can feature the new information and some of
[02:53:22.700 --> 02:53:30.060] the information pouring out like ties to things like autism, as well as neurodevelopmental
[02:53:30.060 --> 02:53:37.580] disabilities for individuals that got the shot in pregnancy. And also, you know, one of the things
[02:53:37.580 --> 02:53:44.460] that practitioners are talking about are turbo cancers. We're seeing so many turbo cancers that
[02:53:45.420 --> 02:53:54.700] we believe that the vaccine played a role in either causing that cancer or hastening the
[02:53:54.700 --> 02:54:01.260] growth of that cancer. Yes, I remember, and I remember pathologist Dr. Ryan Cole talking
[02:54:01.260 --> 02:54:08.620] in the spring of 2021 as it was really starting to roll out in a large way. He said, I'm looking at
[02:54:08.620 --> 02:54:13.500] patients, and I'm seeing that it's damaging their killer T cells. And he goes, and that's when I
[02:54:13.500 --> 02:54:17.420] first heard the term turbo cancer, I think. He was talking about that. He said it's really going
[02:54:17.420 --> 02:54:22.060] to cause that to explode because that's your body's first defense against cancer cells, the killer
[02:54:22.060 --> 02:54:27.260] T cells. And so I guess the question, first question I would have for you, what about people
[02:54:27.260 --> 02:54:33.100] who got the shots? Many of the listeners have, hopefully they haven't gotten it, but perhaps they
[02:54:33.100 --> 02:54:40.700] have a family or friends who have. What types of things, are there going to be resources there at
[02:54:40.700 --> 02:54:46.220] covidindex.science that would help people who have been exposed to this pathogen?
[02:54:47.340 --> 02:54:56.460] Yes, there are resources on recovery from COVID vaccine injury. That is a part of the database.
[02:54:56.460 --> 02:55:01.580] And I would also encourage those individuals that are suffering and they really don't know
[02:55:01.580 --> 02:55:06.620] where to go because so many practitioners either don't acknowledge that it happens or they'll
[02:55:06.620 --> 02:55:11.980] throw up their hands and say, I have no idea what to do. So I would encourage those individuals
[02:55:11.980 --> 02:55:20.460] to email us at info at childrenshealthdefense.org and ask that question directly. I can't really
[02:55:20.460 --> 02:55:27.260] recommend practitioners in an interview or in that particular setting, but at least we can let
[02:55:27.260 --> 02:55:34.300] people know what practitioners are in the area or what practitioners are specializing in those
[02:55:34.300 --> 02:55:39.340] types of cancers or in those types of difficulties. Long COVID vaccine injury
[02:55:39.340 --> 02:55:44.860] is extremely prevalent. A lot of people are having symptoms that are similar to fibromyalgia
[02:55:46.140 --> 02:55:53.020] that either got COVID or got the COVID shot and we're finding circulating spike protein
[02:55:53.020 --> 02:55:58.780] in these individuals that got the COVID shot for upwards to two years after they got their last
[02:55:58.780 --> 02:56:04.700] vaccine so things can be done and things need to be done. Yes, I had an interview years ago with
[02:56:05.740 --> 02:56:10.300] an injured orthopedic surgeon who could no longer work because his hands were shaking
[02:56:10.300 --> 02:56:17.020] and he kept going to fellow physicians and as soon as he would say he thought it was a vaccine
[02:56:17.020 --> 02:56:22.060] injury and this is what they would just basically, I can't help you, they would run away. It just
[02:56:22.060 --> 02:56:26.940] tells us so much about the state of medicine right now, doesn't it? Even to the extent that
[02:56:26.940 --> 02:56:31.180] they finally went to somebody and the guy said, all right, I've got some things here that I think
[02:56:31.180 --> 02:56:37.340] will help you but we're not going to talk about what caused it. I mean that kind of fear is like
[02:56:37.340 --> 02:56:42.860] a totalitarian Stalinist state. I mean this is the kind of stuff that Solzhenitsyn talked about in
[02:56:42.860 --> 02:56:52.380] Soviet Union. It is and you know we were so fortunate. California had a bill to actually
[02:56:52.380 --> 02:57:00.620] codify that so physicians and providers could not deviate from the standard of care. They could not
[02:57:00.620 --> 02:57:08.220] talk about things that were outside of like remdesivir or paxlovid or monopulvinir that were
[02:57:08.220 --> 02:57:14.940] the sort of you know patented technologies that were going to give the most money you know to
[02:57:14.940 --> 02:57:19.740] government scientists and so they could not deviate from that line. They could never talk
[02:57:19.740 --> 02:57:26.460] about ivermectin. That bill passed but fortunately it was overturned by a court decision and the bill
[02:57:26.460 --> 02:57:33.740] the California legislature withdrew it. But many practitioners do not know that that they have the
[02:57:33.740 --> 02:57:40.940] freedom to be able to deviate from the standard of care. Many are afraid you know because of
[02:57:40.940 --> 02:57:46.460] individuals that have been persecuted, that have lost their certifications, things like that.
[02:57:47.420 --> 02:57:51.260] But you know quite honestly I know the practitioners that have gone through the
[02:57:51.260 --> 02:57:57.900] persecution. They have lost their certifications. They fight back. They win and so many of them
[02:57:57.900 --> 02:58:03.340] are still in practice today and I'm glad for people like Ryan Cole, for Peter McCullough,
[02:58:03.340 --> 02:58:09.980] for Pierre Corry. They've really fought the system and are still seeing patients, treating patients
[02:58:09.980 --> 02:58:16.220] and doing a lot of good. That's great yeah. It is horrific to look at how corrupt the system is
[02:58:16.540 --> 02:58:20.300] and of course they got a lot of different ways that they can come after you. I'm pretty sure it
[02:58:20.300 --> 02:58:24.940] was a children's health defense article where they were talking about how the insurance companies
[02:58:24.940 --> 02:58:29.900] will come after the pediatricians who don't follow the vaccine schedule and get a certain
[02:58:29.900 --> 02:58:36.380] percentage of their children vaccinated on schedule. They will basically cut across the board what they
[02:58:36.380 --> 02:58:42.300] will pay these these pediatricians and basically put them out of practice even if you don't
[02:58:42.380 --> 02:58:48.140] get some review board to pull their license. They can pull that economic trick on you.
[02:58:48.140 --> 02:58:55.660] I think that was from Children's Health Defense. They have done that and they threatened that all
[02:58:55.660 --> 02:59:03.820] the time. We were able to get the incentive program for one of the largest HMOs in the United States
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[03:00:53.100 --> 03:01:00.540] 63% or more of their pediatric practice was fully vaccinated. They could get $600 per patient
[03:01:01.580 --> 03:01:07.980] if they had a thousand patients that were fully vaccinated that was $600,000 and that was a yearly
[03:01:07.980 --> 03:01:14.460] incentive. So you know those those individuals that have been fired from pediatric practices
[03:01:14.460 --> 03:01:18.300] because they haven't been following the vaccine schedule that's why it has nothing to do with
[03:01:18.300 --> 03:01:24.460] health. It has everything to do with a pediatrician on the take. Yeah that's right and of course we
[03:01:24.460 --> 03:01:29.820] look at the whole COVID thing. I was absolutely amazed. I remember it was in August of 2020
[03:01:29.820 --> 03:01:33.580] the American Hospital Association was saying uh wait a minute you told us you're going to give us
[03:01:33.580 --> 03:01:37.900] a 20% bonus and now you're telling us that we got to give you our PCR test. You told us at the
[03:01:37.900 --> 03:01:43.260] beginning that you didn't have enough of them and that they didn't work anyway. Right. This is amazing
[03:01:43.260 --> 03:01:49.100] you know I've been shouting about that now for five years and people just don't realize how they
[03:01:49.100 --> 03:01:55.100] use financial strings to get their way with people and how they were financially incentivizing people.
[03:01:55.100 --> 03:01:59.100] So you just point at them and say they got COVID $9,000 you put on a ventilator we're going to give
[03:01:59.100 --> 03:02:05.020] you $39,000 we'll give you a 20% bonus on everything that you do if you say this person has COVID.
[03:02:05.020 --> 03:02:11.020] I mean the whole thing was bought and paid for wasn't it? It really was and that you know there
[03:02:11.580 --> 03:02:18.140] was sort of an economic dearth right during the shutdown because they were shutting down hospitals
[03:02:18.140 --> 03:02:22.460] and telling and taking elective surgeries and things like that and telling them to stay home.
[03:02:22.460 --> 03:02:31.020] So then they waived these incentive programs come you know July August of 2020 to the providers to
[03:02:31.020 --> 03:02:38.620] the hospitals and really you know force them into a situation where many of them just had to go along
[03:02:39.180 --> 03:02:47.180] you know let's diagnose COVID let's diagnose you know we're not going to give effective therapies
[03:02:47.180 --> 03:02:52.460] we really want to put people on ventilators because they got more money for ventilated
[03:02:52.460 --> 03:03:01.660] patients and that were in ICU and so that forced many many more patients into that whole system
[03:03:01.660 --> 03:03:06.860] where they got worse and worse and worse and I think a lot of them David died of bacterial
[03:03:06.860 --> 03:03:11.740] pneumonia but they you know they were never tested for the I agree I agree essence of bacteria
[03:03:12.780 --> 03:03:18.060] and they were allowed to die it was just a crying shame and people should go to jail over this.
[03:03:18.060 --> 03:03:22.140] Yes yes putting people on the ventilator and that type of thing we have
[03:03:23.980 --> 03:03:30.620] Grace Shera's case and they're reopening that again and that was another one of these cases
[03:03:30.620 --> 03:03:34.860] just basically hospital murder put a do not resuscitate put on a ventilator
[03:03:35.740 --> 03:03:39.900] but I wanted to ask you a couple of things because there's been some disappointment with
[03:03:40.540 --> 03:03:47.020] on my part and as well as a lot of my listeners with what's going on with the MAHA disappointed
[03:03:47.020 --> 03:03:53.260] that the mRNA jab is still there I mean we've had the process and I understand there's a lot
[03:03:53.260 --> 03:03:58.220] of inertia here I understand there's a real political fight there and I kind of watched
[03:03:58.220 --> 03:04:03.180] this as it's been developing in Florida with Joseph Lattapoe there first they came back and
[03:04:03.180 --> 03:04:08.060] they said well we don't recommend it you know but you know if you get it you can go ahead and get
[03:04:08.060 --> 03:04:13.660] it but they're not going to ban it and they're gradually moving into that you know first saying
[03:04:13.660 --> 03:04:20.460] we strongly we don't recommend it we're not going to force anymore but now we strongly do not
[03:04:20.460 --> 03:04:25.740] recommend it but they won't actually come in with a ban on this kind of stuff and it's so frustrating
[03:04:25.740 --> 03:04:33.020] because we have seen in the past when a handful of people died over a vaccine or over medicine
[03:04:33.580 --> 03:04:38.940] they would pull it and that is not happening now they will pull it if you got a couple of children
[03:04:38.940 --> 03:04:44.300] who died because of a faulty baby crib they pull all of them off the market but they don't do that
[03:04:44.300 --> 03:04:51.340] with this and so the question is you know what is happening why don't we see a ban of the mRNA and
[03:04:51.340 --> 03:04:57.420] of course what Lattapoe has moved to is to say that now pointing out the fact there's a lot of
[03:04:57.420 --> 03:05:04.700] DNA contamination in the vaccines and say this is something that should cause you to pull this off
[03:05:04.700 --> 03:05:10.060] the market but it's not and so at what point do you think this is going to happen or is it going
[03:05:10.060 --> 03:05:18.700] to happen? I want it to happen desperately you know we have things that are not on the open market
[03:05:18.700 --> 03:05:25.180] that are not sold or distributed ever because they're poisons we call them poisons and so when
[03:05:25.180 --> 03:05:32.940] you look at the mRNA shot it is pure poison it is basically you know and people unfortunately
[03:05:32.940 --> 03:05:37.340] are up in arms that they want their COVID boosters they want their COVID boosters I know people
[03:05:37.340 --> 03:05:42.860] personally that are on their seventh or eighth booster and they are addicted to these things
[03:05:42.860 --> 03:05:50.060] and you wonder like well why are you still around because they are so so toxic and we've seen
[03:05:50.620 --> 03:05:56.380] so many people affected you know I believe that in the United States easily if the calculations
[03:05:56.380 --> 03:06:04.860] were done we'd see over a million people who have died because of the COVID shot but the HHS has been
[03:06:05.420 --> 03:06:14.220] um dragging its heels and I think that part of it is you know the more the administration end of it
[03:06:14.220 --> 03:06:20.140] and not the HHS end of it because I know you know I know Secretary Kennedy I worked with Secretary
[03:06:20.140 --> 03:06:28.540] Kennedy for you know 12 years before he became Secretary Kennedy and it is his heart and his
[03:06:28.540 --> 03:06:35.100] plan to be able to get rid of that technology because it was never should have been rolled out
[03:06:35.900 --> 03:06:42.460] people knew historically that that type of technology was bad news and it was a grand
[03:06:42.460 --> 03:06:49.100] medical experiment and you know basically a big clinical trial that was head up by Tony Fauci
[03:06:49.100 --> 03:06:55.900] and it should never happen that man belongs in jail you know we're pushing as hard as we can push
[03:06:55.900 --> 03:07:01.020] and and honestly there are people on the inside of HHS that are rooting for us and saying no push
[03:07:01.020 --> 03:07:07.420] harder push harder because we have this behemoth of an organization that doesn't want to change
[03:07:07.420 --> 03:07:14.380] we have deep state people in HHS that don't want to change so we need more pressure and of course
[03:07:14.380 --> 03:07:19.020] when we look at this I think we really dodged the bullet there with Susan Monterrez being taken out
[03:07:19.020 --> 03:07:29.500] of the CDC and you know she was somebody who was at BARDA and ARPA-H and very focused on mRNA plus
[03:07:29.500 --> 03:07:35.020] AI and we know that Trump was pushing that on like his first day in office with Stargate he
[03:07:35.020 --> 03:07:39.500] had Larry Ellison there saying yeah we're going to do an AI assessment of you and we'll custom make
[03:07:39.500 --> 03:07:45.500] an mRNA thing there so I was very concerned as to what was going to happen there and of course
[03:07:45.500 --> 03:07:51.020] that's created a lot of pushback against RFK and they said well you just fired her because of a
[03:07:51.900 --> 03:07:56.540] personal disagreement or something you know and subordination because he wanted some of these
[03:07:56.540 --> 03:08:01.340] other people fired and she said no no I'm not going to fire them and so he fired her what do
[03:08:01.340 --> 03:08:07.820] you know about that do you think that that he gets that that he's pushing back against the mRNA that's
[03:08:07.820 --> 03:08:13.100] basically being put out there for everything I mean we had at USDA with this administration
[03:08:13.100 --> 03:08:18.620] with the Trump administration we have Brooke Rollins who with all this bird flu insanity in
[03:08:18.620 --> 03:08:24.540] the mass culling of chickens so whether it was happening with Biden her big solution was well
[03:08:24.540 --> 03:08:31.100] we'll give the mRNA bird flu shot to all the chickens and then that'll be fine and it's also
[03:08:31.100 --> 03:08:37.980] to the chicken to the cattle and to the pigs as well of our food supply and so she has the authority
[03:08:37.980 --> 03:08:44.460] to approve that for agricultural issues but on the other side the mRNA things that are there
[03:08:44.460 --> 03:08:48.620] especially when you combine it with artificial intelligence very very concerning what do you
[03:08:48.620 --> 03:08:52.460] know about the what's going on with Monterey's and the rest of stuff when you're talking about
[03:08:52.460 --> 03:08:58.300] deep state I mean that's what I think of is BARDA and ARPA-H and these insidious programs that are
[03:08:58.300 --> 03:09:02.700] out there it seems like there's a lot of people in the Trump administration Trump is working with
[03:09:02.700 --> 03:09:07.820] Larry Ellison and of course Brooke Rollins is is in on all that as well what's your take on that
[03:09:08.940 --> 03:09:18.780] well not you know not all that litters is gold even in HHS and so you know the by Susan
[03:09:18.780 --> 03:09:25.420] Monterey's being fired and then other you know CDC officials taking their toys and going home
[03:09:25.420 --> 03:09:31.340] I mean they did us a huge favor yeah you know they needed to be fired anyway so it's like okay you
[03:09:31.340 --> 03:09:38.220] know don't let it don't let the door hit your butt on the way out so we were you know we were very
[03:09:38.220 --> 03:09:48.380] very fortunate to that there has to be more of a mass exodus of these individuals because mRNA
[03:09:48.380 --> 03:09:54.700] technology is sort of this new play toy yeah and scientists think oh well let's plug and play we
[03:09:55.260 --> 03:10:02.620] can just you know program AI to tell us what the next pathogen is and they have this buzz word
[03:10:02.620 --> 03:10:08.220] that they're hiding behind called universal vaccination and so when you look at the buzz
[03:10:08.220 --> 03:10:15.180] word universal vaccination even Jay Bhattacharya put it out in a memo talking about a new vaccine
[03:10:15.180 --> 03:10:22.300] platform it was mRNA written all over it that needs to go you know I've already you know emailed
[03:10:22.300 --> 03:10:27.580] him directly and said you know what universal vaccination is code word for gain of function
[03:10:27.580 --> 03:10:32.780] and so that means that you're that you're weaponizing and and you're basically giving
[03:10:32.780 --> 03:10:43.500] permission for scientists in the NIH to weaponize H5N1 to weaponize you know SARS-CoV-2 or whatever
[03:10:44.300 --> 03:10:51.820] monkeypox and so they can have the pathogen pathogen de jour and if that leaks out then
[03:10:51.820 --> 03:10:57.900] that's the whole pandemic that you know Fauci is sitting on the edge of a seat waiting for so we
[03:10:57.900 --> 03:11:04.700] can you know somehow swoop in and save the day again but these these are bad these are horrible
[03:11:04.700 --> 03:11:12.860] technologies nobody has talked about innate immune suppression that happens when you get mRNA shots
[03:11:12.860 --> 03:11:18.300] nobody's talked about the effect of the lipid nanoparticle on the immune system and I think
[03:11:18.300 --> 03:11:24.780] you shots excuse me I think you mentioned that the very beginning I remember in the fall of 2020
[03:11:24.780 --> 03:11:28.540] when they were talking about it there was an article and I think it was you that was involved
[03:11:28.540 --> 03:11:36.220] in it that saw that questioned the idea of this pegalation the PEG encapsulation and you said this
[03:11:36.220 --> 03:11:40.460] is going to create anaphylactic shock and I've told this to people many times I said they told
[03:11:40.460 --> 03:11:46.220] you to you contacted the FDA and it said no we don't care about it contact Pfizer of course
[03:11:46.220 --> 03:11:51.260] Pfizer doesn't care if the FDA doesn't care that was you I think at Children's Health Defense was
[03:11:51.260 --> 03:11:57.660] it it was Children's Health Defense and I was working with a distinguished colleague Lynn Redwood
[03:11:57.660 --> 03:12:05.740] on that and it turns out that because of exposure to PEG 75 percent of the population the United
[03:12:05.740 --> 03:12:13.420] States carries PEG antibodies and so that meant you know that and and many people did go into
[03:12:13.420 --> 03:12:22.460] anaphylaxis and you know sudden anaphylactic shock shock after getting the jab and so you know it
[03:12:22.460 --> 03:12:28.380] was predictable it was highly predictable why would you coat you know this lipid nanoparticle
[03:12:28.940 --> 03:12:36.620] with a known allergen you know it's a recipe for disaster but it's convenient people say oh well
[03:12:36.620 --> 03:12:42.060] you know you have immune reactions all the time they frankly didn't really care they didn't want
[03:12:42.060 --> 03:12:48.300] to do the experimentation they just wanted to roll out a vaccine and they were paid handsomely
[03:12:49.020 --> 03:12:54.860] to the tune of about 250 billion dollars over the course of the pandemic in sales of those shots
[03:12:54.860 --> 03:12:59.340] yeah amazing how many billionaires they coined with that but it just shows the
[03:12:59.340 --> 03:13:05.100] utter disregard for safety and health that exists in these institutions and these corporations
[03:13:05.100 --> 03:13:09.260] I've got a question here from Flower Sower thank you for the tip Flower Sower please
[03:13:09.260 --> 03:13:13.820] ask Dr. Hooker when Children's Health Defense is going to pursue and promote removing the
[03:13:13.820 --> 03:13:20.140] protection the pharmaceutical industry hides behind with the 1986 act why isn't this a priority
[03:13:20.140 --> 03:13:28.620] for CHDs yes well I I am so grateful for that question because we are working on it we're
[03:13:28.620 --> 03:13:36.620] working with key legislators that we can't name right now on you know being able to abolish the
[03:13:36.620 --> 03:13:45.260] 1986 act we're also working with HHS who is trying to re-envision the act I mean frankly my own
[03:13:45.260 --> 03:13:51.260] opinion is that it just needs to go that it needs to go away and then we need we need guardrails
[03:13:51.900 --> 03:13:58.380] for protection of families of vaccine injured kids we need at least a one-time look back
[03:13:58.380 --> 03:14:04.140] for those that were denied justice especially around the omnibus autism proceedings you know
[03:14:04.140 --> 03:14:11.020] my family and and this is why I fight this my family was in vaccine court for 16 years
[03:14:11.900 --> 03:14:21.260] we filed our claim in May of 2002 and we did not get a decision and we were not allowed to even
[03:14:21.260 --> 03:14:27.900] go to oral arguments because of a sort of a vendetta I believe that our special master
[03:14:27.900 --> 03:14:34.380] had against our expert witnesses you know right regarding the toxicity of mercury hey it's Ben
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[03:16:36.380 --> 03:16:42.380] that never should have been in there and arguably mercury does cause neurodevelopmental disorders
[03:16:42.380 --> 03:16:48.060] and so we were never never given our day in court there are thousands upon thousands of families
[03:16:48.060 --> 03:16:54.380] just like that and they all need justice they all need their day on court they were promised that
[03:16:54.380 --> 03:16:59.260] by the seventh amendment in the 14th amendment and they were never given it and that's one of
[03:16:59.260 --> 03:17:05.020] things that was the key aha moment for me when I found out about the 1986 act very important that's
[03:17:05.020 --> 03:17:11.260] why you know I've talked many times about dr. Andrew Wakefield's movie right 1986 the act I
[03:17:11.260 --> 03:17:17.340] think is the name of it and it's a dramatization of how it affects a family when you do something
[03:17:17.340 --> 03:17:24.140] like that that basically that shows what this is truly all about and and that should be the moment
[03:17:24.380 --> 03:17:29.900] I think we need to spread the news far and wide if we can't stop this if people at least understand
[03:17:29.900 --> 03:17:36.460] that they have absolutely no liability and that as we said before if somebody had you got a crib
[03:17:36.460 --> 03:17:42.060] and you might have one or two freak accidents with that crib they recall all of them and massive
[03:17:42.060 --> 03:17:48.460] fines for the manufacturers but nothing for this no matter how many people they kill it's absolutely
[03:17:48.460 --> 03:17:53.180] amazing the damage that they're allowed to get away with it and that it's that type of stuff
[03:17:53.740 --> 03:17:58.780] that you know I look at and it's like okay well I know what's going on here that's how I make my
[03:17:58.780 --> 03:18:03.500] decisions but it's always good to have a scientist who's going to go through and tell people what the
[03:18:03.500 --> 03:18:09.500] mechanisms are to get them to understand that you know there was just a recent article on reason
[03:18:09.500 --> 03:18:14.700] I haven't covered it on the show yet but I was absolutely stunned to see this article from reason
[03:18:14.700 --> 03:18:20.380] saying well we were told we're all going to die and look I'm still alive I got the vaccine I know
[03:18:20.380 --> 03:18:25.020] a lot of people got the vaccine and they're still alive and again this is another one of the issues
[03:18:25.020 --> 03:18:31.100] why when you have the COVID index dot science it's good to have the the truth that is out there we
[03:18:31.100 --> 03:18:35.020] had a lot of people who made predictions that everybody that got this vaccine is going to be
[03:18:35.020 --> 03:18:42.620] dead within a year or so a guy that I used to work for said that and that is making the that is
[03:18:42.620 --> 03:18:47.740] essentially an alibi for these people because they can point to that exaggeration and say that
[03:18:47.740 --> 03:18:52.300] didn't work and of course when reason looks at this they should know first of all that the
[03:18:52.300 --> 03:18:56.540] statistics are being suppressed they're being lied to about it they understand that they see
[03:18:56.540 --> 03:18:59.820] that all the time whether you're talking about unemployment figures or you're talking about
[03:18:59.820 --> 03:19:04.060] inflation figures they know the government lies with statistics they should expect that the
[03:19:04.060 --> 03:19:08.620] government is going to lie with statistics about this when they rush something to market but the
[03:19:08.620 --> 03:19:13.020] other part of it is is the individual variation that we see from person to person but there's
[03:19:13.020 --> 03:19:18.540] the third thing I wanted to ask you about and that is there was research that was done by Naomi
[03:19:18.540 --> 03:19:23.500] Wolf and they went through and looked at the different batches I remember at the very beginning
[03:19:23.500 --> 03:19:32.300] of this again back in August September the CDC was putting out information about a form that
[03:19:32.300 --> 03:19:36.940] they wanted the health providers to collect information on about the vaccine and so they
[03:19:36.940 --> 03:19:41.980] wanted all your personal information your address and so forth and so on and the only other thing
[03:19:41.980 --> 03:19:47.180] they kept about the vaccine was the lot number and I talked about that at the time because I said
[03:19:47.180 --> 03:19:51.740] it's kind of ominous that they get all this personal information and there's a box there
[03:19:51.740 --> 03:19:57.820] that says refused I said what are they going to do with that and so I said you know be aware of
[03:19:57.820 --> 03:20:01.740] that that's there that you know they're going to keep a record of you if you refuse but they kept
[03:20:01.740 --> 03:20:07.900] the lot information and she went back in her research and they found a tremendous variation
[03:20:07.900 --> 03:20:13.740] I think it was like 30-fold from the least to the most active ingredients that were in there
[03:20:14.540 --> 03:20:17.180] is that something you're aware of is that something that is still going on
[03:20:18.540 --> 03:20:26.620] it is still going on and lot to lot variability with this type of technology is is you know very
[03:20:27.180 --> 03:20:32.780] very you know the margins for error are really really large and that's not something you want
[03:20:32.780 --> 03:20:38.860] to see in anything that you would put in your body we thought that you know the first batches
[03:20:38.860 --> 03:20:47.580] that were rolled out had so many adverse events that you know maybe 80,000 60,000 would be
[03:20:47.580 --> 03:20:53.100] distributed and then they would quietly pull them off the market and not tell anybody that that was
[03:20:53.100 --> 03:21:00.220] a hot lot and you can actually go you know to a tracking site that tracks the adverse events on
[03:21:00.220 --> 03:21:08.620] theirs and just google how bad is my batch and that will tell you you know what adverse events
[03:21:08.620 --> 03:21:15.820] have been reported for that particular batch of vaccines that's the lot information that you need
[03:21:15.820 --> 03:21:23.580] and we know that historically lots and lots of vaccines not just the covid shot have been subject
[03:21:23.660 --> 03:21:32.540] to this level of you know poor biotechnology processing you look at the merck mmr vaccine
[03:21:32.540 --> 03:21:40.060] mmr2 that was introduced i believe in the united states in about 1978 nobody knows
[03:21:40.060 --> 03:21:47.100] the exact concentration of virus in that vaccine nobody has ever really done the quality control
[03:21:47.100 --> 03:21:52.620] and so the lot to lot variability is very very high and the only thing that we do know because
[03:21:52.620 --> 03:21:59.820] of whistleblowers that have come out of merck is that the maximum concentration of virus in that
[03:21:59.820 --> 03:22:06.700] vaccine is much much higher than what the fda ever approved and so it's another grand medical
[03:22:06.700 --> 03:22:12.860] experiment and we know when that happened it happened in 1999 they started doing a process
[03:22:12.860 --> 03:22:19.340] called overfilling the batches and boosting the virus concentrations that's when anaphylactic
[03:22:19.340 --> 03:22:26.620] shock really started in earnest and death really started in earnest for the mmr vaccines after they
[03:22:26.620 --> 03:22:31.100] boosted those virus concentrations you can see it clear as the nose on your face if you do a
[03:22:31.100 --> 03:22:35.820] varus analysis wow and that's the other thing too you know besides the fact they don't have any
[03:22:35.820 --> 03:22:40.620] liability so they don't have to care it's just the lackadaisical haphazard attitude of this
[03:22:40.620 --> 03:22:46.300] of all things medicines and pharmaceuticals that are very concentrated they are carefully
[03:22:46.300 --> 03:22:52.140] controlled in terms of the amounts of whatever that it is that you're getting and that i always
[03:22:52.140 --> 03:22:57.420] looked at that and i kind of thought dr hooker that maybe what they were doing was that was maybe
[03:22:57.420 --> 03:23:02.140] part of the experiment you know experimenting on everybody because when you're trying to roll out
[03:23:02.140 --> 03:23:07.020] something you're trying to find the sweet spot between something that is going to be toxic because
[03:23:07.020 --> 03:23:11.900] it's too much and something's going to be ineffective because it's too little i said it looks to me like
[03:23:11.900 --> 03:23:19.100] a massive experiment to play around with people but it's just absolute disregard for any standards
[03:23:19.100 --> 03:23:28.140] of safety or medicine that's there really it is it is abysmal and when you look at the level of
[03:23:28.140 --> 03:23:36.860] contamination in biologics you know fda is separated into two divisions two main divisions
[03:23:36.860 --> 03:23:42.940] are centers there's the centers for drugs evaluation and research and then the center
[03:23:42.940 --> 03:23:49.980] of biologics evaluation and research is called cber but historically those biotech drugs they
[03:23:49.980 --> 03:23:56.860] come from a soup that has been fermented with a particular genetically modified organism a lot of
[03:23:56.860 --> 03:24:03.500] times it's e coli that is involved in that so you get carryover of e coli proteins you get carryover
[03:24:03.500 --> 03:24:12.540] of yeast proteins you get carryover of foreign dna and in the case of the mrna jabs then you
[03:24:12.540 --> 03:24:21.900] have carryover of virus particles like sv40 and sv40 we know causes cancer it is known to be
[03:24:21.900 --> 03:24:26.940] carcinogenic yeah it's just awful i've got a couple of questions here several questions as a
[03:24:26.940 --> 03:24:32.780] matter of fact from the audience jerry alatalo says please ask dr hooker how he feels about enf
[03:24:33.900 --> 03:24:42.780] ak y i l d i z public admission that covid mrna injections are nanoscale machines programmed for
[03:24:42.780 --> 03:24:47.900] human injection i don't know who that individual is are you familiar with this work and and that
[03:24:47.900 --> 03:24:54.940] statement no i'm not i'm not familiar with the work but you know i will say i i have not observed
[03:24:54.940 --> 03:25:04.540] this directly um i obtained some of the mrna technology shots myself examined them under the
[03:25:04.540 --> 03:25:11.420] microscope you know just use uh face contrast microscopy to see what i could find and then
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[03:26:52.140 --> 03:26:57.580] tried to incubate it over a period of time at physiological temperature and the backs that i
[03:26:57.580 --> 03:27:05.260] saw did not have that in it i'm not saying that it doesn't because again you know david nothing
[03:27:05.340 --> 03:27:11.420] surprises me anymore when i see the things that the government has gotten away with
[03:27:11.420 --> 03:27:17.900] and knowingly gotten away with with you know with horrible poisons that should have never been
[03:27:17.900 --> 03:27:23.420] introduced like remdesivir you know remdesivir killed the organs that caused the lungs to fill
[03:27:23.420 --> 03:27:28.940] up with fluid and then the patients had to be intubated to force the fluid out of the lungs
[03:27:28.940 --> 03:27:35.020] because the tissue in the lungs was dying so so many different things have been foisted
[03:27:35.020 --> 03:27:41.100] is that is that technology readily available and off the shelf oh most definitely most definitely
[03:27:41.100 --> 03:27:46.940] they could do that did they do it um that's something i'm still investigating and i honestly
[03:27:46.940 --> 03:27:51.260] do not know let me ask you this too this is something else i covered i remember when it
[03:27:51.260 --> 03:27:58.700] happened in japan they had two different batches of over a million each uh it's like one was a
[03:27:58.700 --> 03:28:06.380] million the other was like 1.2 million uh of um of these pfizer or moderna mra things and um they
[03:28:06.380 --> 03:28:11.980] noticed that there were black particulates in it and they also noticed that they interacted with
[03:28:11.980 --> 03:28:18.300] magnets and they threw all of them away and that was briefly reported and then they then disappeared
[03:28:18.860 --> 03:28:24.220] and uh i was just wondering are you familiar with that uh could you verify that that happened
[03:28:24.300 --> 03:28:31.500] anything i know individuals that you could do that experiment on and you know at the injection
[03:28:31.500 --> 03:28:38.940] site and it was magnetic um what i make of that was there you know were there magnetic particles
[03:28:38.940 --> 03:28:48.460] and the vaccine yeah the technology exists so it is it it we need all of the documentation of
[03:28:48.540 --> 03:28:54.220] pfizer there's a big big reason why pfizer wanted to seal those records for 76 years
[03:28:54.220 --> 03:28:58.940] yeah because you know that is you know we're going to find a witch's brew in there
[03:28:58.940 --> 03:29:04.140] yes and the connection with darpa yeah connection with darpa and bard and everything right there
[03:29:05.180 --> 03:29:09.660] that that point so which is brew of some sort i was just wondering if maybe you know it showed
[03:29:09.660 --> 03:29:14.860] up in japan because uh of a long travel time maybe there was an issue with refrigeration
[03:29:14.940 --> 03:29:19.180] because the unusual issue about how unusually cold it had to be kept
[03:29:19.900 --> 03:29:23.980] but it's also it seems like the japanese are a little bit more open and honest about some
[03:29:23.980 --> 03:29:30.460] of these things they were the first ones to report about the biodistribution issues and
[03:29:31.580 --> 03:29:36.380] that was something that people reported on that got severely punished in the west but they
[03:29:36.380 --> 03:29:42.300] reported it in japan exactly i'm thankful for that information because we didn't know the
[03:29:42.300 --> 03:29:47.260] biodistribution we were told lies and and i think that they were bold-faced lies i don't
[03:29:47.260 --> 03:29:52.060] think that they were just mistakes or misspeaking i think those people had the distribution they
[03:29:52.060 --> 03:29:59.420] did animal studies surely they had the distribution information at that time in fact what was leaked
[03:29:59.420 --> 03:30:06.140] in japan was a pfizer document yes yes um got another question here from karen carpenter 27
[03:30:06.140 --> 03:30:12.300] with nights of the storm says a question please comment on susan monarez and the vaccine safety
[03:30:12.300 --> 03:30:21.420] data link is the vsd accessible for studies that is a horrible mess and i think that we need to
[03:30:21.420 --> 03:30:28.860] apply pressure on hhs i think we need to apply pressure on congress to open up the vaccine safety
[03:30:28.940 --> 03:30:37.980] data link the vaccine safety data link is a ongoing record of about 10 million patients
[03:30:38.540 --> 03:30:44.860] enrolled in 10 different hmos it's all de-identified anonymized so you can't figure
[03:30:44.860 --> 03:30:53.740] out what patient is what you can't get any type of identity information from that but the
[03:30:54.620 --> 03:31:04.940] um uh dr daskalakis i forget his first name he hid literally hid and then bragged about hiding
[03:31:04.940 --> 03:31:10.060] the vaccine safety data link from secretary kennedy for the first seven months that secretary
[03:31:10.060 --> 03:31:18.460] kennedy was in office and then dr daskalakis then ended up resigning in protest with monarez
[03:31:19.260 --> 03:31:23.420] now we know it's there now we know that the vaccine safety data link is there
[03:31:23.420 --> 03:31:31.020] but there are contractual hiccups that keep anybody from getting data from 2002 on we do not
[03:31:31.020 --> 03:31:36.220] have that information and we need to demand that information because you know there are so many
[03:31:36.220 --> 03:31:40.300] different things there are so many different vaccines that were introduced that have never
[03:31:40.300 --> 03:31:46.860] been adequately studied there are even unvaccinated individuals in the vaccine safety data link because
[03:31:47.260 --> 03:31:53.100] it's not required the patient enrollment doesn't require vaccination so i know they have it you
[03:31:53.100 --> 03:31:57.740] know they have tens of thousands of records for individuals that have never seen a vaccine
[03:31:58.780 --> 03:32:05.500] so we need all that information monarez was hiding it daskalakis was hiding it should go to jail
[03:32:06.860 --> 03:32:13.340] and now the head of the immunization safety office i believe his name is mike mcneill
[03:32:13.340 --> 03:32:21.020] is stonewalling to allow secretary kennedy and his advisors to get access to that data
[03:32:21.020 --> 03:32:26.140] again it's deep state gurus that have been there forever they're hiding this information it needs
[03:32:26.140 --> 03:32:30.860] to come open well again it's the sort of thing in another field that i was working in we were
[03:32:30.860 --> 03:32:38.380] trying to get climate data from dr michael mann and it was something that he had done
[03:32:39.020 --> 03:32:45.180] at a public university on their work computers and he had published the information and it had
[03:32:45.180 --> 03:32:49.660] been used to create public policy but he absolutely refused to show us the data you know when i see
[03:32:49.660 --> 03:32:54.300] something like that same type of thing that we're seeing with susan monarez and the cdc
[03:32:54.300 --> 03:33:00.460] doing trying to hide this vaccine safety data that is an admission of guilt and it's admission
[03:33:02.060 --> 03:33:06.780] you know science is not on your side if you are afraid to show people the data and you just want
[03:33:06.860 --> 03:33:11.740] them to do what you say because the position you're in that is the antithesis of science i've got
[03:33:11.740 --> 03:33:16.780] another question here from guard goldsmith of liberty conspiracy said i wonder if the doctor
[03:33:16.780 --> 03:33:22.620] has any knowledge of breakthroughs for long covid i still search finding some interesting hope what
[03:33:22.620 --> 03:33:30.860] do you think about that i you know i am not a practitioner and i know many many good practitioners
[03:33:30.860 --> 03:33:40.700] that are starting to have breakthroughs using different cocktails of antivirals antiparasitics
[03:33:41.260 --> 03:33:51.340] and antibiotics that you know that's where i'm hearing the success there are also you know and
[03:33:51.340 --> 03:33:56.300] david i thought i'd never hear myself saying this there are also individuals that are using
[03:33:56.300 --> 03:34:01.900] hypochlorite hypochlorous solutions you know they're not it's not bleach everybody says oh
[03:34:03.180 --> 03:34:10.940] you know no these are very very dilute very very safe solutions and they're doing nasal lavage
[03:34:11.740 --> 03:34:16.380] on patients that is helping clear the virus that's helping clear the spike
[03:34:17.100 --> 03:34:29.100] um and then there are a myriad sort of uh recipes home homeopathy is you know i'm hearing uh from
[03:34:29.100 --> 03:34:36.780] those practicing uh natural paths and homeopaths are having really really good success with long
[03:34:36.780 --> 03:34:44.300] covid and covid vaccine injury so you know follow the rule that you know try it do do one thing at
[03:34:44.300 --> 03:34:50.060] a time see if it works if it doesn't work ditch it and move on to the next thing i mean you know
[03:34:50.060 --> 03:34:55.260] because you shouldn't suffer we've brought my son a tremendous amount of way with his vaccine
[03:34:55.260 --> 03:35:01.180] injury that he sustained at 15 months and my house is the house of many clinical trials whether it's
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[03:35:13.740 --> 03:35:18.780] it's something that is uh not going to be harmful you know i'll try it you know how much does it
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[03:37:31.500 --> 03:37:36.940] Tylenol thing to me it looks like a red herring it looks like they're trying to dodge the connection
[03:37:36.940 --> 03:37:43.100] for the vaccine stuff what is your take on that i mean i i just don't see that Tylenol has
[03:37:44.140 --> 03:37:52.460] corresponded uptake and Tylenol has changed radically that would explain the radical change
[03:37:52.460 --> 03:37:57.580] and autism i i just don't buy that at all what do you think about that what do you think is that i
[03:37:57.580 --> 03:38:05.820] think um you know i've done a lot of research on this and spent a lot of time with the lead
[03:38:05.820 --> 03:38:12.140] researcher in that whole field of acetaminophen neurodevelopmental disorders and autism his name
[03:38:12.140 --> 03:38:18.620] is william parker you know i actually sat down with him for five days and said look convince me
[03:38:18.620 --> 03:38:24.780] you know because he was hounding me about this and so the the thing that's really convenient
[03:38:24.780 --> 03:38:33.580] about Tylenol is that it it is a quick solution to a not so quick problem and and i think that
[03:38:33.580 --> 03:38:40.620] yeah um there are cases that are definitely associated with some type of infection some
[03:38:40.620 --> 03:38:47.260] type of vaccination followed by acetaminophen definitely you know sort of a one-two punch
[03:38:48.060 --> 03:38:54.460] but Tylenol itself is is a necessary component but it's not sufficient you can't just say
[03:38:54.460 --> 03:38:59.980] oh you know Tylenol is bad it is the individuals that have genetic susceptibility
[03:39:00.780 --> 03:39:07.740] that then have a huge amount of oxidative stress like multiple vaccines all at the same time
[03:39:07.740 --> 03:39:13.820] and then you add Tylenol to the mix that's really the perfect storm so you can't just take care of
[03:39:13.820 --> 03:39:20.060] one and say oh we've broken the chain all of them need to be taken care of all of them need to be
[03:39:20.060 --> 03:39:25.740] addressed i think that the administration came out with regarding Tylenol because they thought
[03:39:25.740 --> 03:39:33.580] it's an easy fix but you know it is we didn't get here just from Tylenol we got here from years of
[03:39:33.580 --> 03:39:40.700] abuse of the system and that needs to be a fixed and then we can see the autism epidemic go away
[03:39:41.500 --> 03:39:46.220] that's good yeah i feel like you know when you look at this it seemed to coincide with a rapid
[03:39:46.220 --> 03:39:51.740] escalation of the vaccine schedule now what is going on with that you know what is happening
[03:39:51.740 --> 03:39:57.100] with i know you were involved with the measles issue you know where they said a couple people
[03:39:57.100 --> 03:40:01.900] died in texas and you've investigated that with the families i know the media is still selling
[03:40:01.900 --> 03:40:07.260] that narrative i think you effectively debunked that that was what had happened there yeah yeah
[03:40:07.260 --> 03:40:13.020] they died of bacterial pneumonia that was left untreated yes but i'm still seeing mainstream
[03:40:13.020 --> 03:40:19.420] articles say oh they killed two people and so forth and you know so what are the chances of us
[03:40:19.420 --> 03:40:25.180] pulling back on this vaccine schedule i know that it's tremendous support within the bureaucracy
[03:40:25.180 --> 03:40:29.980] in the corporations and the media and i guess that's another part of it what's going to happen
[03:40:29.980 --> 03:40:37.980] with the ads the issue with that i know that rfk jr has talked about that well my hope is that you
[03:40:37.980 --> 03:40:43.100] know direct-to-consumer pharmaceutical advertising will go by the wayside i mean it's gotten
[03:40:43.100 --> 03:40:50.700] ridiculous it is absolutely you know and then i watch news and old people tv so you know my
[03:40:50.700 --> 03:40:57.020] my wife is a serial addict to the hallmark channel and so it's it's all the drugs biologics
[03:40:57.020 --> 03:41:04.620] and vaccines that you can push on old people yeah you know every day every ad it is very
[03:41:04.620 --> 03:41:10.780] infrequent that you see anything else and so those need to be pulled they and and i believe
[03:41:10.780 --> 03:41:17.100] that secretary kennedy is working stepwise to get there to i believe that they're de facto fraudulent
[03:41:17.100 --> 03:41:22.140] you know in the sense that you know ask your doctor well you're not you don't understand that
[03:41:22.140 --> 03:41:25.100] they're not giving you all the information that you need to make an informed decision
[03:41:25.660 --> 03:41:30.620] and and so it is really fraudulent what they're putting out there even if they have somebody
[03:41:30.620 --> 03:41:35.820] rattling off very rapidly all the adverse effects that they are going to talk about
[03:41:36.380 --> 03:41:42.140] it's still not sufficient to be truthful i think no no it doesn't tell you tell you how effective
[03:41:42.140 --> 03:41:48.700] that that particular therapy is it doesn't tell you how effective the vaccine is at preventing
[03:41:48.700 --> 03:41:56.220] that particular disease i mean we see you know over and over again rsv shingles pneumonia you know
[03:41:56.220 --> 03:42:02.220] flu over and over again but they don't you know the dirty little secret is some years that the
[03:42:02.220 --> 03:42:07.740] when you get the flu shot you're more likely to get the flu than if you didn't get the flu shot
[03:42:07.740 --> 03:42:13.260] oh yeah and so you know they've seen that over and over again almost pretty much every year
[03:42:13.260 --> 03:42:19.180] people who get it they get it right away yeah yeah and and we know individuals that got the
[03:42:19.180 --> 03:42:24.460] trivalent the quadrivalent flu shot got them for their babies and the babies died within hours i
[03:42:24.460 --> 03:42:30.460] mean we're investigating several cases of SIDS right now that were the quadrivalent flu shot
[03:42:30.460 --> 03:42:36.700] wow yeah and it's just it's such a shame you know when you see these babies die yes um
[03:42:37.260 --> 03:42:44.060] and then you know the entire system is there to cover it up we want to be able to expose it
[03:42:44.060 --> 03:42:48.620] that's just horrific yeah i've played a clip several times of a lady that was on social media
[03:42:48.620 --> 03:42:53.260] and she said it wasn't until she saw the sudden adult death syndrome stuff that was out there
[03:42:53.260 --> 03:42:58.060] that it clicked with her then and she said i killed my baby and i said so many times i wish
[03:42:58.060 --> 03:43:02.780] i could talk to her she didn't kill her baby there's people who lied to her people who knew
[03:43:02.780 --> 03:43:07.740] better who killed her baby for money that's the saddest thing about it i've got a couple more
[03:43:07.740 --> 03:43:14.060] comments here a real jason barker with nights of the storm said the cdc took down the publicly
[03:43:14.060 --> 03:43:19.260] available tools that show excess death spikes after the vaccine rollout that's very damning
[03:43:19.260 --> 03:43:25.580] info right there and reply to person who said i can't even get the excess death statistics anymore
[03:43:25.580 --> 03:43:30.540] i could in 2022 for every year since it started to be recorded what's going on with that and do
[03:43:30.540 --> 03:43:37.980] you have that information there at covidindex.science that has been pulled down and and i believe that
[03:43:37.980 --> 03:43:43.900] that's addressed in covidindex.science we do not have the new data regarding excess deaths
[03:43:43.900 --> 03:43:50.220] and it is weird because i published on excess deaths in dmed the department of defense
[03:43:50.220 --> 03:43:58.220] medical epidemiological database i published on excess deaths in 2022 from you know from the
[03:43:58.220 --> 03:44:06.620] rollout of the vaccine and all of a sudden all this stuff just dried out cdc was no longer
[03:44:06.620 --> 03:44:13.340] reporting excess deaths on their website there's so many show games on you know you go to the
[03:44:13.340 --> 03:44:18.460] national center for health statistics they never they never say flu deaths they always say influenza
[03:44:18.460 --> 03:44:23.820] and pneumonia they combine those two categories so people will get scared and get their flu shots
[03:44:23.820 --> 03:44:29.420] even though they're not effective at preventing death preventing serious illness and many times
[03:44:29.420 --> 03:44:34.620] not even effective at doing the flu so yeah a lot of those databases are pulled down
[03:44:35.580 --> 03:44:43.340] i do encourage any and everybody to foya the cdc for specific information it's as simple as an
[03:44:43.340 --> 03:44:53.500] email just you know foya request at cdc.gov foia request at cdc.gov you know put very concise
[03:44:53.500 --> 03:45:00.860] language of what you want limit you know the ask to specific information and then by law they have
[03:45:00.860 --> 03:45:07.020] to respond to you within 30 days yeah i remember when they did that with the defense department's
[03:45:07.020 --> 03:45:10.940] database of dmed stuff i remember there's some doctors that saw how things were exploding in a
[03:45:10.940 --> 03:45:17.180] lot of different areas and their absurd reply was well um not that there was something going on with
[03:45:17.180 --> 03:45:22.060] the vaccine but they went back and they looked at it they compared it over five years they said well
[03:45:22.060 --> 03:45:27.500] all of our data for five years is wrong and it's like come on right and then the next thing you
[03:45:27.500 --> 03:45:33.900] know they pulled it all down i mean if this isn't the most juvenile cover-up it's just absolutely
[03:45:33.900 --> 03:45:38.940] amazing it would be comical if it wasn't so horrific what it's doing to people's lives
[03:45:40.220 --> 03:45:45.660] i've got let's see bulldog says they could have very specifically targeted people by lot number
[03:45:45.660 --> 03:45:53.340] yeah they could sg sutton can dr hooker tell us about the volunteer opportunity with the covet index
[03:45:53.900 --> 03:46:00.860] oh that is so good i that is such a great question uh if you look at the covet index dot science
[03:46:00.860 --> 03:46:08.940] there is a box that you can click on to volunteer and these volunteers they're basically in
[03:46:08.940 --> 03:46:16.300] individuals that go out and they get new information newly published information for the covet index
[03:46:16.300 --> 03:46:22.060] they curate it um you know it's very very simple you fill out a very very simple form
[03:46:22.220 --> 03:46:29.420] and then uh once you filled out that form then it goes to uh a very small committee and then they
[03:46:29.420 --> 03:46:34.220] give you thumbs up or thumbs down like oh yeah this should go on the covet index about 95 percent
[03:46:34.220 --> 03:46:39.980] of it does go into the index but that helps us keep it up to date we have an army of volunteers
[03:46:39.980 --> 03:46:47.180] that does that and we're recruiting more volunteers uh you get free covet index merch you get free
[03:46:48.140 --> 03:46:53.580] chd merch and we love our volunteers that we want i mean there's i know there's a lot of people out
[03:46:53.580 --> 03:46:58.300] there that want to help they're really studious and nerdy like me and they like to read this
[03:46:58.300 --> 03:47:04.780] literature and so you know if that is your vibe if that's the thing that you like to do make sure
[03:47:04.780 --> 03:47:11.260] that you check out that volunteer opportunities uh tab on covet index dot science that's great
[03:47:11.260 --> 03:47:16.300] that's great and again yeah covet index dot science and they have uh i guess most of them
[03:47:16.300 --> 03:47:20.700] are one-minute videos that you can just very easily click on the thing and share it on social
[03:47:20.700 --> 03:47:25.580] media get this information around that's the most important thing people are not informed
[03:47:26.300 --> 03:47:30.700] or they're misinformed about what's going on here and so it's very important to put the get those
[03:47:30.700 --> 03:47:34.700] videos that they've put together out there i got one more question here from karen carpenter when
[03:47:34.700 --> 03:47:42.300] nights of the storm says does dr hooker think that ultrasound and wi-fi emf could play a role
[03:47:42.380 --> 03:47:47.420] in autism what do you think about that i absolutely believe that it plays a role in
[03:47:47.420 --> 03:47:53.180] autism a lot of autism researchers have have looked into this and they find statistically
[03:47:53.180 --> 03:48:01.340] significant correlations with emf um you know there there was very little reason for 5g 5g
[03:48:01.340 --> 03:48:07.580] is basically there for surveillance purposes uh so the not not so you can have better internet
[03:48:07.580 --> 03:48:15.020] but so the government can know more about you and so you look at all of these you know new
[03:48:15.020 --> 03:48:20.860] technologies the internet of things so you know my phone can talk to my computer my refrigerator
[03:48:20.860 --> 03:48:29.740] and you know my ironing board or whatever uh that is producing energetic signals it's producing
[03:48:30.380 --> 03:48:37.660] energetic signals in the ir range uh in the you know in the microwave range and that is bad for
[03:48:37.660 --> 03:48:44.300] you i mean there's nothing good about it i mean if i had my choice my my uh my own house would be
[03:48:44.300 --> 03:48:49.820] hardwired uh but what we do is we turn off our devices and wi-fi at night and have just like an
[03:48:49.820 --> 03:48:56.620] old clock that it tells us the one that you have to change during daylight and just tells us what
[03:48:56.620 --> 03:49:02.300] time it is you know just sleep with it off sleep and just if just start with turning your wi-fi off
[03:49:02.300 --> 03:49:09.100] because there is a connection i don't believe that it's completely causal but there is a connection
[03:49:09.100 --> 03:49:16.620] with wi-fi and with excitatory uh excited toxic processes in the brain and you just
[03:49:16.620 --> 03:49:21.340] don't want to stimulate that i agree i mean when i was going back trying to do some research on
[03:49:21.340 --> 03:49:27.180] moncef slawy i found all these different uh conferences that he was speaking at fatue
[03:49:27.180 --> 03:49:31.900] was speaking at and francis collins was speaking at and they were all talking about electroceuticals
[03:49:31.900 --> 03:49:35.740] and i thought well this is going to be the next big thing electroceuticals so it's like
[03:49:35.740 --> 03:49:40.780] okay well if you're going to treat people electrically uh with things like that then clearly
[03:49:40.780 --> 03:49:46.700] emf is going to have a big effect on people and that's a tacit admission isn't it yeah yeah
[03:49:46.700 --> 03:49:53.580] emf does have an effect if we can manipulate it to you know do you know some type of medical
[03:49:53.580 --> 03:50:00.380] intervention then what is it doing every day yes exactly and you know we had alan fry who worked
[03:50:00.380 --> 03:50:06.700] for the navy doing experiments and he documented the fry effect which you can certain frequencies
[03:50:06.700 --> 03:50:12.300] you'll hear it like a clicking type of thing you know just like we had um you know the military
[03:50:12.380 --> 03:50:17.100] discovered microwave cooking you know the radar ranges of a manna in the early days you know then
[03:50:17.100 --> 03:50:22.300] just noticed that the coffee was getting hot well if you see something like that then yeah there's
[03:50:22.300 --> 03:50:26.460] a little bit of smoke there there's got to be a fire there somewhere as well i think i started
[03:50:26.460 --> 03:50:30.620] looking at that in conjunction with the hivana effect that was out there because people were
[03:50:30.620 --> 03:50:34.060] saying they were hearing a clicking stuff it's like oh wait that sounds like the fry effect
[03:50:34.060 --> 03:50:39.420] maybe that is some kind of directed emf uh not sure and i got another question here just about
[03:50:39.420 --> 03:50:45.260] out of time um this is from jerry alatalo he says please ask dr hooker how he felt immediately
[03:50:45.260 --> 03:50:51.580] after listening closely to darpa associated neuroscientist james gandaro's horrifying public
[03:50:51.580 --> 03:51:01.980] lectures thank you you know i i am that that one stumped me um i i i know of those lectures i just
[03:51:01.980 --> 03:51:09.260] don't know enough about those lectures i apologize i you know i should know this information and and
[03:51:10.220 --> 03:51:14.940] my defense is we that we're playing whack-a-mole with everything that's right there's so many i
[03:51:14.940 --> 03:51:19.740] mean these people have billion dollar budgets and they're constantly coming up with one bizarre
[03:51:19.740 --> 03:51:26.140] frankenstein experiment after the other it truly is a a scary situation that we find ourselves in
[03:51:26.140 --> 03:51:31.100] this particular time it is an interesting time and it is a very dangerous time but thank you so much
[03:51:31.100 --> 03:51:36.140] for the work that you do at children's health defense and for the covid index dot science thank
[03:51:36.140 --> 03:51:49.020] you dr hooker thank you thank you very much thank you
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