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[00:57.040 --> 01:10.320]  today. Must be 18 or older. Play responsibly. Well, joining us now are doctors Mark and Sam
[01:10.320 --> 01:17.600]  Bailey. Sam short for Samantha. And you can find their website at DrSamBailey.com. They put it in
[01:17.600 --> 01:23.920]  her name because although they're both doctors, she was on TV in New Zealand and she started
[01:23.920 --> 01:29.120]  asking some uncomfortable questions of the establishment. And so I had them on about a
[01:29.120 --> 01:34.320]  year ago and we were talking about their book at the time was The Final Pandemic. And they
[01:34.320 --> 01:38.560]  were pointing out, they were questioning all of virology, which is what they've done. That's got
[01:38.560 --> 01:43.120]  them in a lot of trouble in New Zealand. And so I wanted to get caught up as to what's happening
[01:43.120 --> 01:48.720]  in New Zealand. And I like to get their comments on what's happening in America as the pharmaceutical
[01:48.720 --> 01:53.360]  industry is getting pretty desperate to defend vaccines. And so we're starting to get these
[01:53.360 --> 01:59.680]  narratives about measles epidemics. And I know that they're skeptical of that as I am as well.
[01:59.680 --> 02:05.920]  So thank you for joining us, doctors Mark and Sam Bailey. Thank you. Good to have you back.
[02:05.920 --> 02:12.240]  Thank you, David. Pleasure to be here. And yeah, I think you're quite right. Sam in particular has
[02:12.240 --> 02:17.760]  been in some more hot water here in New Zealand. And last year she unexpectedly had her bank
[02:17.760 --> 02:24.080]  accounts frozen. Really? Yes. And then we had the authorities trying to seize some of our family
[02:24.080 --> 02:31.760]  assets because apparently Sam owes them money for COVID crimes. She's even been charged here in New
[02:31.760 --> 02:38.480]  Zealand with COVID-19. Apparently that's a charge that they can bring against you. And anyway.
[02:38.560 --> 02:41.760]  Well, they use it to lock everybody down. So I guess they could use it to lock you up.
[02:41.760 --> 02:45.600]  So they actually have a charge called COVID-19. What does that involve?
[02:46.480 --> 02:53.760]  It's for them in the medical world. That's with, when I, um, when they had the fake kind of kangaroo
[02:53.760 --> 03:02.400]  court tribunal about me, that's what they charged me with was COVID-19. And so, yeah, but they said
[03:02.400 --> 03:08.000]  they are, I owe a lot of money because of my thought crimes and, um, yeah. And they debanked
[03:08.000 --> 03:13.280]  me and that took, I had to go into court to fight it. And that was quite full on.
[03:14.960 --> 03:19.360]  Yeah. It was just, it was really disruptive for several months there, David, but it was,
[03:19.360 --> 03:25.040]  Sam had a good result. She took them into the high court and it was ruled as unlawful. They're still
[03:25.040 --> 03:30.480]  going after these crazy COVID fines, but they've been told, no, you're not allowed to do what they
[03:30.480 --> 03:36.640]  did. Uh, making this attempt to seize bank accounts, et cetera. So, yeah, but it's just, um,
[03:36.640 --> 03:42.800]  like you say, this is what happens when doctors like us who were once in the establishment and
[03:42.800 --> 03:48.480]  Sam was the real golden girl. Like you say, she was on network television and a real favorite.
[03:48.480 --> 03:55.120]  And then come early 2020, she questioned the COVID narrative and said, look, I don't think
[03:55.120 --> 04:01.040]  there's a pandemic at all. And that led to this. So, yeah. And like you say, we put out the final
[04:01.120 --> 04:08.880]  pandemic. Um, that was actually now, uh, was that 2024? Yeah. We put that out. Yeah. It's, um,
[04:08.880 --> 04:13.680]  a couple of years since we put that out and, uh, when you got a new book, you've got a new book
[04:13.680 --> 04:19.760]  that you just put out. Tell us a little bit about that. Well, I guess it's a new, an older new book.
[04:19.760 --> 04:30.000]  It's a book version of my essay, a farewell to virology. Now I wrote this in 2022 because I felt
[04:30.000 --> 04:37.840]  there wasn't a standalone piece, a treatise refuting the entire virus model, all of virology.
[04:38.400 --> 04:46.640]  So I wrote this essay. It's about, uh, 29,000 words and it's pretty dry. And Sam said, there's
[04:46.640 --> 04:52.240]  no way, there's no way I could ever make that into a video production. Uh, and she didn't,
[04:52.240 --> 04:57.680]  although filmmaker Steve Falconer did make it into a three-part documentary eventually, but
[04:57.760 --> 05:03.600]  we had such positive feedback and we'd reached the point where the PDF had been downloaded about
[05:03.600 --> 05:09.600]  quarter of a million times. And we were surprised because it's a very dry technical paper, you know,
[05:09.600 --> 05:15.520]  reviewing the virus model. And, uh, we decided last year, why don't we put it out as a book?
[05:15.520 --> 05:22.080]  And I included a couple of bonus essays that I've written since that time. And that's sold
[05:22.640 --> 05:28.080]  really, really well. It's really thrilling, David, to see this, that we think, you know,
[05:28.080 --> 05:34.640]  not so long ago people, you know, weren't questioning this stuff on a widespread scale.
[05:35.360 --> 05:41.120]  Nowadays, this is coming up all the time and people are not only questioning vaccines and
[05:41.120 --> 05:46.960]  pandemics, but also the entire virus model. So it's been really positive for us to see that
[05:46.960 --> 05:53.840]  there's a big appetite out there for this, uh, work. And we're seeing people now in conversation
[05:53.840 --> 05:57.920]  say, yeah, well, I don't believe in vaccines. And then you'll hear someone say to them, well,
[05:57.920 --> 06:03.360]  I don't think that viruses are, you know, there's sufficient evidence for them either. So yeah,
[06:03.360 --> 06:11.120]  we see this is the whole thing. The silver lining with the COVID fraud is that it has inadvertently
[06:11.120 --> 06:15.840]  woken people up and they've gone deeper and deeper into looking into these things.
[06:15.840 --> 06:19.680]  That's right. We talked about that last time and, you know, it's, it's kind of interesting. It's
[06:19.680 --> 06:23.280]  what we say about government all the time. You know, you may not be interested in politics,
[06:23.280 --> 06:27.840]  but politics is interested in you. And we can say the same thing about virology, right? You say,
[06:27.840 --> 06:32.880]  this might be pretty dry reading, but after what happened five years ago, I think people need to
[06:32.880 --> 06:38.000]  say, you know, this is something I need to know about. I need to interest myself in this because
[06:38.000 --> 06:42.400]  this was used to lock down the world. And if it's going to be used to lock down the world,
[06:42.400 --> 06:46.400]  we need to know a little bit about it. You know, when you're talking about getting, yes, go ahead.
[06:47.280 --> 06:51.280]  Oh, sorry. No, I was just going to say exactly. I just, it's so important. And I think when people,
[06:52.080 --> 06:56.400]  when people, you can't, we can't cold call people and say, look into this.
[06:56.960 --> 07:01.520]  It has to come from the individual, but I think it's really started with, there's been a complete
[07:01.520 --> 07:07.840]  lack of trust in the medical system since after what's happened, people have now are just trusting
[07:07.840 --> 07:14.080]  vaccines. And the next question that falls to people are, well, do these things even exist?
[07:14.080 --> 07:20.320]  What are they doing to us? And that in itself, that question, when you answer it is so empowering
[07:20.320 --> 07:26.720]  because it changes your entire way of seeing health and how to be well. And it's a really
[07:26.720 --> 07:33.040]  positive step. And we see it, there's a great awakening going on. Yes. Yes. Well, you know,
[07:33.040 --> 07:37.840]  that is, and I've said this for the longest time, you know, whether we're talking about the green
[07:37.840 --> 07:42.800]  new deal or whatever, you know, it's like, show me your data. I was with a group that had to sue
[07:42.800 --> 07:48.480]  to try to get Michael Mann's data as part of the, the climate gate thing that happened with East
[07:48.480 --> 07:54.000]  England. And he fought so hard to keep his data secret. Oh, that's kind of suspicious. I don't
[07:54.000 --> 07:59.760]  think somebody would do that if it was all up above board. And so that really kind of feeds
[07:59.760 --> 08:06.320]  your skepticism. And, you know, if it's true, you don't need to hide it. And so I think that's the
[08:06.320 --> 08:11.920]  key thing about a lot of this stuff. People saw this throughout the virus stuff, and we saw the
[08:11.920 --> 08:17.200]  heavy hand of censorship. And as you're talking about before, debanking people and that type of
[08:17.200 --> 08:23.280]  thing. I got debanked in May of 2021, five months after we started the show. And at that point in
[08:23.280 --> 08:28.240]  time, PayPal was where I got pretty much all the contributions that we got was through PayPal. So
[08:28.240 --> 08:33.120]  that was a really big deal when we got cut off in the one place. And now we've made sure that
[08:33.120 --> 08:39.040]  we've got a lot of different places where people can support the show. But I just saw that they've
[08:39.040 --> 08:46.160]  admitted that most of these debank orders are, the debanking is being driven by government,
[08:46.160 --> 08:50.160]  not by the corporations, just like we saw with the censorship. For the longest time, we said,
[08:50.160 --> 08:54.160]  this censorship is coming from the government. We can tell because of the pattern in it.
[08:54.240 --> 08:58.560]  And then they admitted it. We got the documents, and you could see that it was actually coming
[08:58.560 --> 09:03.200]  from the government. Same thing true of the debanking as well, as we would all suspect.
[09:03.920 --> 09:09.280]  So yeah, let's talk a little bit about measles, though. Because we've had here in the United
[09:09.280 --> 09:16.080]  States, before we had going to war with the world and changing the subjects every other day,
[09:16.720 --> 09:21.040]  they were starting to push back against some of the minor changes that are being made
[09:21.600 --> 09:27.280]  at HHS by RFK Junior. I'm glad to see some of these changes. They've reduced the,
[09:27.280 --> 09:30.000]  I don't know if you're familiar with what's going on in the US, but they've reduced
[09:30.960 --> 09:37.440]  the vaccine count that they recommend that they're really virtually mandating for children by the
[09:38.080 --> 09:43.920]  pressures that were put on to pediatricians. They would offer both carrots and sticks to make sure
[09:43.920 --> 09:49.120]  that they would get the kids vaccinated. And so there were penalties associated with the
[09:49.760 --> 09:52.800]  reimbursements they would get from the insurance companies and things like that.
[09:53.360 --> 09:56.880]  So they have pulled back some of these. And we go back and look at the vaccine schedule. I was
[09:56.880 --> 10:02.000]  really surprised to see how many times they would repeat these vaccines. Some of them were given
[10:02.000 --> 10:10.240]  four or five times during childhood. And so they pull back the frequency and the number of vaccines
[10:10.800 --> 10:14.800]  that are recommended. And they've also pulled it back to say there's not going to be any penalty
[10:14.800 --> 10:18.560]  if you don't follow the recommendations. So that's positive stuff, but that's really got
[10:18.560 --> 10:24.720]  the vaccine industry fired up. So they were coming back with measles. And so I went to the CDC and I
[10:24.720 --> 10:29.840]  thought it was kind of interesting to see how many cases they had and how many so-called outbreaks
[10:29.840 --> 10:34.640]  that they'd had, because they put a lot on this South Carolina. And there was another one in
[10:34.640 --> 10:38.400]  Georgia, but South Carolina they were really focused on just a couple of months ago. And
[10:38.400 --> 10:42.880]  they were giving us narratives saying that, you know, had a hundred kids or whatever. And I said,
[10:42.880 --> 10:47.680]  yeah, but you notice that they're not saying anybody is hospitalized and nobody has died.
[10:48.240 --> 10:54.320]  Even though we had in Texas, I think it was in 2024, they had two cases that they claimed had
[10:54.320 --> 11:01.920]  been fatal. When Children's Health Defense went in and investigated, they found that that was not
[11:01.920 --> 11:08.480]  the cause of death of these. So that's been disputed and I think very effectively disputed.
[11:08.480 --> 11:12.800]  But they never even claimed that anybody died or was hospitalized out of these
[11:12.800 --> 11:18.560]  cases in South Carolina and Georgia. And I thought it was kind of interesting, Mark and Sam, that
[11:18.560 --> 11:25.920]  when they define an outbreak, that is more than three cases that are connected. And so they said
[11:25.920 --> 11:35.120]  that 69% of the cases in 2024 were outbreaks. But then that meant that 31% of the cases were not.
[11:35.680 --> 11:39.680]  And so it's like, that's kind of strange if they're telling us that this is the most
[11:39.680 --> 11:45.440]  contagious virus out there. How is it that you're getting all these situations where you have one
[11:45.440 --> 11:50.880]  person or two people that have it and nobody else has it? And so that raises a question, I think,
[11:51.520 --> 11:55.840]  in my mind, at least. What would you tell the audience? I know we talked about this last time
[11:55.840 --> 12:01.200]  we were on, we talked about measles, but kind of give us a refresher course about your position
[12:01.200 --> 12:04.720]  about measles and what you think is going on here. Because a lot of people have had an experience
[12:04.720 --> 12:13.840]  with it where most of us in the U.S. had measles at my age. And so the question is, why did a lot
[12:13.840 --> 12:19.040]  of us have measles back then? Why is it so many fewer right now? And why did it appear like it
[12:19.040 --> 12:23.600]  was something that was being passed on to people? What's going on, Texas? It's Bluff here. Are you
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[13:26.080 --> 13:31.120]  Yeah, sure. And David, this comes down to the narrative that the media present,
[13:31.120 --> 13:35.680]  and it's a complicated thing because, like you say, people will contact us and say,
[13:35.680 --> 13:40.160]  hey, there's an outbreak in the city in the United States and they're all unvaccinated
[13:40.160 --> 13:45.200]  kids and some of them are really sick. And you have to really pick things back to the whole
[13:45.200 --> 13:51.840]  historical aspects of measles and the basic science. So like you, we would say, first of all,
[13:51.840 --> 13:58.640]  investigate what do they mean by an outbreak? And we find that these days there might be two cases
[13:58.640 --> 14:04.400]  and they're splashing that in the headlines saying outbreak. Now, this is something historically
[14:04.400 --> 14:10.480]  that would have never made national news, let alone cause to murmur in the local community.
[14:10.480 --> 14:14.640]  Nobody calls that an outbreak, but they've changed the language. They've changed the
[14:14.640 --> 14:22.880]  definitions. Then we have the issue with what is a case. Now, historically, they didn't have any
[14:22.880 --> 14:28.800]  tests, any laboratory tests. So it was all done clinically, you know, so a kid would present with
[14:28.800 --> 14:35.360]  a rash and a fever and it was up to the doctor to decide what that was. Now, Sam and I used to be
[14:35.360 --> 14:39.760]  in the system and we were trained up in that system and they'll tell you all of these things
[14:39.840 --> 14:46.320]  like, oh no, a doctor knows measles because there's coplic spots in the mouth, the special
[14:46.320 --> 14:50.880]  sign that you'll see, all this kind of stuff. And then you look into the research and you find out
[14:50.880 --> 14:57.520]  that these case definitions are so wooly. You know, most of them don't have these special features.
[14:57.520 --> 15:02.320]  The rashes all look very similar. How do you distinguish between a hand, foot and mouth,
[15:03.360 --> 15:09.200]  you know, measles, chicken pox, monkey pox, small pox. They're all just degrees. They're all just
[15:09.200 --> 15:15.680]  similar presentations, coughs, fevers, runny noses and rashes. A lot of it comes down to
[15:15.680 --> 15:22.960]  what the doctor decides. Then we have this problem of whether the child has been vaccinated or not.
[15:22.960 --> 15:28.880]  So a lot of the time the child's been vaccinated, you're not allowed to make the diagnosis. You
[15:28.880 --> 15:35.040]  know, you have to look at something else because that doesn't look good. And at other times,
[15:35.120 --> 15:40.080]  there's a special message that goes out to the medical community and there may be incentives
[15:40.080 --> 15:44.800]  to report the cases. You know, you need to suddenly start reporting. So we have to think
[15:44.800 --> 15:50.400]  that these are often artificial situations that we're seeing. Nothing is actually changing in the
[15:50.400 --> 15:56.800]  community, but it's the way it's being presented, the way it's being tested, the way things are
[15:56.800 --> 16:03.760]  being looked for. So yeah, we know historically, like you say, that many of us last century were
[16:03.760 --> 16:11.600]  given the diagnosis of measles. By definition, it was a very mild condition and a lot of kids used
[16:11.600 --> 16:17.600]  to celebrate getting it because it meant that they got the week off school because of this
[16:17.600 --> 16:22.560]  crazy notion that people thought it was a contagious entity. So for a child, it was a
[16:22.560 --> 16:28.480]  pretty exciting time. You got the measles. It was a guaranteed week or two off school while you had
[16:28.480 --> 16:34.640]  the rash, et cetera. But these days, as you know, we're being presented with the story
[16:34.640 --> 16:39.600]  that the measles is deadly. It's so, oh my goodness, imagine if your child got that.
[16:40.240 --> 16:47.680]  And we're not actually seeing cases or claimed cases where children are dying outside of these
[16:48.480 --> 16:56.640]  very small number of events and incidents where on deeper inspection, on actual looking at the
[16:56.640 --> 17:02.400]  medical records, we find out that these kids were sick for other reasons. And someone happened to
[17:02.400 --> 17:09.280]  label them or said that they had a co-infection in quotes with measles at the time. And then the
[17:09.280 --> 17:14.880]  media pick up on it and say, you know, child with measles dies. But, you know, it's clear to us when
[17:14.880 --> 17:19.920]  you look at the medical records that the child was sick for other reasons. And that's what happened
[17:19.920 --> 17:25.280]  in Texas with Dr. Brian Hooker and others. Yeah, I agree. Yeah. And so there is, as you point out,
[17:25.280 --> 17:30.320]  sometimes there's an incentive to not report it as measles. Sometimes there's an incentive to
[17:30.320 --> 17:35.920]  report it as measles. And it's very similar to what we saw with COVID. The government,
[17:35.920 --> 17:41.280]  the federal government, was giving a bonus to doctors if they would do a clinical diagnosis
[17:41.280 --> 17:48.160]  point at somebody who's got COVID. And so you get, I think it was $13,000, if I remember correctly.
[17:48.240 --> 17:55.520]  And then towards August of 2020, you had the American Hospital Association say,
[17:55.520 --> 18:00.720]  wait a minute, you're telling us now that you need some kind of a PCR diagnosis that's here?
[18:00.720 --> 18:03.600]  You told us at the beginning those didn't work and you didn't have enough of them.
[18:03.600 --> 18:06.960]  And you told us just to do a clinical diagnosis and now you're not paying up. So that kind of
[18:06.960 --> 18:13.520]  blew the cover because there's no honor among thieves, I guess. And so people would start to
[18:13.520 --> 18:19.840]  see things like that happening. And we realize now that that's not just limited to COVID.
[18:19.840 --> 18:22.640]  This is the type of thing they've been running for quite some time, isn't it?
[18:24.240 --> 18:29.520]  Yeah, definitely. And I think what is also interesting is, you know, what Mark was saying
[18:29.520 --> 18:35.760]  with the classification, a serious pathogen, you only need one case for it to be defined as
[18:35.760 --> 18:41.040]  an outbreak. So that's what happened. We saw in COVID in New Zealand where there was one
[18:42.000 --> 18:48.000]  case and the whole nation went into lockdown. Just to be clear, when Sam says pathogen,
[18:48.000 --> 18:52.800]  that's in quotes. We don't want people to think... That's not their terms.
[18:55.280 --> 19:01.760]  Pathogenic is a word, you know, means disease causing. Pathogen, they took this term last
[19:01.760 --> 19:08.160]  century and made it up and said, oh, that's microbes, you know, bacteria and invisible
[19:08.160 --> 19:15.680]  or imaginary viruses. But as Sam says, in their system, they will say that you can have one case.
[19:15.680 --> 19:20.240]  And if it's a serious one, they say, that's an outbreak. We now have an outbreak, folks.
[19:20.240 --> 19:23.840]  And yeah, in countries like New Zealand, they'll shut down the entire country.
[19:24.720 --> 19:25.520]  That's what happens.
[19:25.520 --> 19:31.360]  Yeah. Oh, it's crazy. And I think that's one of the key things that many of us don't realize is
[19:31.360 --> 19:36.880]  they haven't really done real science. I'm sure you addressed that in your farewell to virology.
[19:36.880 --> 19:42.960]  They didn't do real science to isolate a particular thing like a virus or something
[19:42.960 --> 19:49.120]  and then correlate that to the illness to say, well, we got this thing that we find in the people
[19:49.120 --> 19:53.360]  who are sick and we don't find it in the people who are well. And if we take that and transfer
[19:53.360 --> 19:57.920]  it to the people who are well, they get sick. That's what everybody thinks is happening,
[19:57.920 --> 19:59.280]  but that's not what's happening, right?
[20:01.040 --> 20:01.440]  Yeah.
[20:01.440 --> 20:07.840]  David, there is a hidden history behind measles. And when Sam and I trained as doctors,
[20:08.800 --> 20:13.920]  they didn't tell us about this and they presented very selective information.
[20:14.560 --> 20:19.360]  And they said that there was some monkey experiments that were done early last century
[20:19.360 --> 20:26.480]  that proved that measles was highly contagious. Now that was very disingenuous because when we
[20:26.480 --> 20:33.280]  actually dug into the history and I've got a note here, researchers like Daniel Reuters,
[20:33.280 --> 20:37.920]  our Australian colleague, have done magnificent work digging up all of these old studies.
[20:38.640 --> 20:43.920]  There were a whole lot of studies in the 1800s and people would be shocked if they knew what
[20:43.920 --> 20:49.760]  they actually did because you'd never get the stuff approved these days past the ethics committees.
[20:49.760 --> 20:57.760]  So they were taking children and even young ones like babies and trying to give them measles.
[20:57.760 --> 21:03.120]  They were doing everything they could. So a doctor would, researcher would locate a case
[21:03.120 --> 21:09.920]  of a kid that was unwell with what was said to be measles that quickly takes snot and tears and even
[21:09.920 --> 21:17.040]  blood from these kids. And then they'd go and try and infect other kids. Now, often that just
[21:17.040 --> 21:22.960]  squirt it straight up their nose or expose their eyes or just put it on their skin.
[21:22.960 --> 21:29.200]  Sometimes they would actually make wounds to their bodies and introduce this disease material.
[21:29.760 --> 21:35.120]  They would also inject it straight into other children. So they'd take blood from one child,
[21:35.120 --> 21:42.000]  said to have measles, inject it into another. All failures didn't work. All they could induce were
[21:42.000 --> 21:48.160]  these local kind of reactions. And they said, because they were so obsessed of showing that
[21:48.160 --> 21:53.520]  there was some sort of contagious element, they said, oh, maybe our techniques are insufficient.
[21:55.200 --> 22:02.000]  There were even techniques where they then they brought monkeys in and they exposed them to
[22:02.000 --> 22:09.280]  sick humans and the monkeys didn't get sick. So eventually they resorted to taking blood
[22:09.360 --> 22:16.480]  from people said to have measles and injected it into these monkeys, these rhesus monkeys and
[22:16.480 --> 22:22.800]  other small monkeys. Some, not all, some of the monkeys developed a little bit of a rash
[22:22.800 --> 22:28.640]  around the injection site and a fever. And then they said, well, that proves that there was a
[22:28.640 --> 22:35.120]  study 1911 Anderson and Goldberger, and this is the one they'll cite of saying, well, that's when
[22:35.120 --> 22:40.560]  they showed it was contagious. Now, the rest of us looking at this to say this is outrageous
[22:40.560 --> 22:50.160]  because the WHO and the CDC, they say that measles is an airborne disease. It's transmitted
[22:50.160 --> 22:56.800]  via aerosol and that just being in the same room with someone is enough to cause you to come down
[22:56.800 --> 23:03.760]  with the case of the measles. Clearly the research never showed that they had to do these preposterous
[23:03.760 --> 23:11.120]  experiments where they injected animals with human blood. And we know, David, that that will
[23:11.120 --> 23:16.480]  cause a reaction because, and even the human experiments they did, sometimes you'll get a
[23:16.480 --> 23:24.240]  reaction because the blood is not cross matched appropriately. So you don't need a virus to cause
[23:24.240 --> 23:30.800]  these increases in temperature. And none of them recreated the same illness, the classic illness.
[23:30.800 --> 23:39.120]  So completely, this is all hidden. I learned this from you. They did the same type of thing
[23:39.120 --> 23:44.800]  like from 1940 something and 1980 something, the UK cold house, where they were doing everything
[23:44.800 --> 23:49.440]  they could to transmit colds to people and failed in the same way that you're talking about what they
[23:49.440 --> 23:56.800]  did in the 1800s. Sam has a great video on the common cold unit that people can watch. And it's
[23:56.800 --> 24:02.480]  really amazing. This is where they invented coronaviruses, David. This is where it comes from
[24:04.000 --> 24:10.320]  in humans because they said, yeah, we don't really know what's going on here, but we think
[24:10.320 --> 24:18.320]  it must be viruses. Forty years they operate this facility in England and out of it comes
[24:19.040 --> 24:25.680]  nothing but virology mythology where they said that they found about a couple of hundred viruses
[24:25.680 --> 24:31.280]  that seemed to cause common colds. And again, we looked at those experiments and we were shocked
[24:31.280 --> 24:38.160]  because the vast majority of them completely failed. And importantly, Daniel Reuters has
[24:38.160 --> 24:44.720]  gone further with his book, Can You Catch a Cold, where he documents hundreds and hundreds of these
[24:44.720 --> 24:55.200]  human transmission attempts with flus, colds, and they fail. The mode is that most of the experiments
[24:55.200 --> 25:00.080]  completely fail. And this is extreme. This is people coughing in other people's faces,
[25:00.800 --> 25:06.480]  living in the same room for several days at a time, and just this complete inability to make
[25:06.480 --> 25:12.640]  the other person sick. And transference of body fluids like mucus and things like that as well,
[25:12.640 --> 25:17.680]  right? But it seems like they come up with the name coronavirus. Maybe it was based on circular
[25:17.680 --> 25:27.600]  logic, maybe that was it. I don't know. Yeah, well, the story there is just incredible,
[25:27.600 --> 25:31.520]  because the coronavirus stuff just pops up all the time. But essentially it was an
[25:33.200 --> 25:40.240]  exercise where a virologist gave a tissue sample to an electron microscopist, June Almeida,
[25:40.240 --> 25:46.800]  in the 1960s, and basically said to her, there's a virus in there, can you find it? And she just
[25:46.800 --> 25:52.480]  pointed to something and said, I think that's it. And then forevermore, if people see this,
[25:52.480 --> 25:57.840]  they say that's the coronavirus, or a coronavirus. Point and declare, we call it.
[25:57.840 --> 26:02.960]  That kind of reminds me of the etymology of the term computer bug. They had a woman who,
[26:02.960 --> 26:05.200]  they had a malfunctioning machine, they opened it up, there was a bug in there,
[26:05.200 --> 26:09.760]  she says, yeah, that was it, it was a bug. And so after that, we all talk about having bugs inside
[26:09.760 --> 26:15.120]  the software, but it's kind of that same sort of thing. You know, we've got an inkling of this,
[26:15.600 --> 26:22.720]  as everybody was talking about, rushing this vaccine into deployment. And I guess that's a
[26:22.720 --> 26:28.400]  good word, since it was kind of a military operation. And so they were talking about,
[26:28.400 --> 26:32.560]  we got to speed this up. He had a lot of true believers out there and said, I'll volunteer,
[26:32.560 --> 26:37.280]  you know, let me have this vaccine, and then you can expose me to it. We can short circuit this,
[26:37.280 --> 26:41.680]  because the way they would do the testing, that was kind of a harbinger of all this stuff.
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[27:42.240 --> 27:47.840]  The fact is that they don't expose people to the disease that you're supposed to,
[27:47.840 --> 27:52.720]  that this is supposed to prevent, right? So when somebody is getting a therapeutic,
[27:52.720 --> 27:57.680]  they take somebody who's already sick with the condition and they give them this therapeutic,
[27:57.680 --> 28:01.360]  and they have a control. So they have people who get a placebo and people get the new
[28:01.360 --> 28:06.400]  treatment. And they look to see, first of all, the first phase is, does it kill people? So they have
[28:06.400 --> 28:12.400]  just a very small group of people to check to see if there's really obvious immediate damage
[28:12.400 --> 28:17.680]  that's done. And then if it clears that hurdle, then they start with the phase two and phase three
[28:17.680 --> 28:22.720]  tests, where they start to give people that already have this condition to see if it makes
[28:22.720 --> 28:27.760]  a little bit of a change with them. And they look at the efficacy of it based on the difference
[28:27.760 --> 28:31.680]  between the control group and the people who got the drug. But they say with a vaccine, we can't do
[28:31.680 --> 28:36.480]  that. It'd be unethical to, if this stuff doesn't work, it'd be unethical to give this disease to
[28:36.480 --> 28:40.400]  somebody, except that's what they were doing in the cold house. That's what they were doing in
[28:40.400 --> 28:47.360]  these other virology experiments you're talking about in the 1800s. And so in a sense, if they
[28:47.360 --> 28:53.200]  were to do that, they call that a challenge test. If they were to do that, it would show people
[28:53.200 --> 28:57.840]  that there was nothing there in the first place, I think. That may be another reason they don't do
[28:57.840 --> 29:02.160]  that, because it doesn't seem to be a whole lot of ethics in terms of preventing them from doing
[29:02.160 --> 29:07.680]  a lot of other things. So it may be that they're just trying to hide cover for virology. I don't
[29:07.680 --> 29:14.560]  know. What do you think? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, David, it's really interesting you mentioned that
[29:14.560 --> 29:23.600]  because Sam and I both used to work in clinical trials. And these were in Big Pharma sponsored
[29:23.600 --> 29:29.920]  human trials. We were in the dark side, David. We were trained up in that craft. Yeah. Now,
[29:29.920 --> 29:35.840]  one thing that really struck us when we were involved in that work, and you'll see that in
[29:35.840 --> 29:41.760]  some of our presentations, like recently Sam did one on vitamin K injections in the newborn,
[29:41.760 --> 29:47.200]  and that is this numbers needed to treat them. Where they're saying, oh, we can't do the trial
[29:47.200 --> 29:52.720]  because the numbers need, well, they don't say that they'll say, because the size of the trial
[29:52.720 --> 29:59.280]  would need to be so big. And you're thinking to yourself, why would you need a trial that size
[29:59.280 --> 30:05.600]  for something that's supposedly really effective? Because they're saying we need like 200,000 people
[30:05.600 --> 30:12.640]  in the trial to show that it's effective. You know that at that point, it's absolute ridiculousness
[30:12.640 --> 30:17.600]  because the numbers needed to treat, even on their own terms. Maybe explain what that means. Yeah. So
[30:17.600 --> 30:23.680]  that's the numbers you would need to give a therapy to, to prevent one event, not to save
[30:23.680 --> 30:30.240]  a life. And it's whichever event you choose. So the event might be sneezing. So you might say,
[30:30.240 --> 30:37.760]  well, we've got this new therapeutic and the numbers needed to treat 900 and it will prevent
[30:37.760 --> 30:44.000]  one sneeze. So clearly telling a person, hey, I've got this treatment that prevents sneezing,
[30:44.080 --> 30:50.080]  a person might say, oh, great, I'll take that treatment. If you told them 900 people need to
[30:50.080 --> 30:59.200]  take this medication and one will get the benefit, which is not sneezing, 899 will not get the benefit
[30:59.200 --> 31:04.880]  and they'll be exposed to all of the potential adverse effects of that medication. And they
[31:04.880 --> 31:09.760]  won't tell you those because they might not have looked at them all. So this is the preposterousness
[31:09.760 --> 31:14.960]  and like you say, they'll just say, oh, we can't do the trials because of this reason and that
[31:14.960 --> 31:21.680]  reason. And that should be a red flag to people right away as to the fact that this is not an
[31:21.680 --> 31:28.560]  effective treatment and all the only way it can work is through manipulation of the narrative.
[31:29.200 --> 31:35.120]  And it's, it's a big thing and it's what pharmaceutical companies really rely on these
[31:35.120 --> 31:43.120]  days and with vaccines, which we're talking about here a lot, the narrative is completely
[31:43.120 --> 31:50.400]  fraudulent where they're mixing all sorts of things of mortality rates and incidents
[31:50.400 --> 31:56.640]  and who's vaccinated and who's not. All of these things, they manipulate the statistics.
[31:57.280 --> 32:01.600]  It's outright fraud. I mean, Sam and I have exposed this stuff in some of our presentations
[32:02.480 --> 32:09.440]  looking at the CDC's own data and what they classify as vaccinated versus unvaccinated.
[32:09.440 --> 32:15.520]  And they will do things like they'll classify someone as unvaccinated. If the person knows
[32:15.520 --> 32:21.040]  that they've been vaccinated, but couldn't remember the date of the vaccination in the
[32:21.040 --> 32:26.000]  CDC's world, that goes into the unvaccinated category. Now that's preposterous. The person
[32:26.000 --> 32:33.280]  clearly has been vaccinated and it's just manipulating the statistics to produce a
[32:33.280 --> 32:38.640]  certain narrative. In the case of measles too, when I remember back, I used to work as a GP
[32:38.640 --> 32:43.760]  for a while, general practitioner. I remember seeing the only patients I ever saw with a true
[32:43.760 --> 32:49.120]  measles type rash, you know, the really classic looking one, they were all drug reactions.
[32:49.120 --> 32:53.920]  There were people that had had antibiotics and then a week later they developed this classic
[32:54.480 --> 33:00.240]  measles rash. And that was the only ones I ever saw. And it's funny how, again, this is all
[33:00.240 --> 33:07.840]  crafted. If I'd said that I hadn't asked about the drug history, I would have called it measles
[33:07.840 --> 33:13.440]  and classified it. And you realize how much this problem keeps popping up, doesn't it?
[33:14.640 --> 33:18.880]  Absolutely. And some of them are vaccine reactions as well. But of course, if you've had the vaccine,
[33:18.880 --> 33:24.720]  you're not supposed to have the disease. And I know that critics will say yes,
[33:24.720 --> 33:29.440]  but they have tests to differentiate that stuff, you know, antibody assays and stuff. But
[33:30.080 --> 33:34.480]  we've looked into all of these assays, they're dubious in themselves on their own terms. So
[33:35.360 --> 33:41.760]  all of it is to protect this narrative. But what I think is really positive, David, is that
[33:41.840 --> 33:48.880]  clearly people, you know, got wised up to the COVID-19 narrative and then went off that one.
[33:48.880 --> 33:56.080]  So now we see them relaunching other narratives. Because measles is not even familiar to people
[33:56.080 --> 34:02.160]  anymore. Because one thing Sam and I point out is that by the 1980s, when we were kids,
[34:03.680 --> 34:09.440]  most people, infectious diseases, in quotes, weren't even a thing. And so many people were
[34:09.440 --> 34:14.720]  turning away from vaccines and could not see the need for them. Kids had generally got really,
[34:14.720 --> 34:21.200]  really healthy. Childhood mortality had fallen away to almost nothing. And then, of course,
[34:21.200 --> 34:27.600]  they had to relaunch things in the 1990s with these fear campaigns that suddenly, these diseases
[34:27.600 --> 34:32.640]  like chickenpox and measles, which were joke illnesses to the physicians of old, who were
[34:32.640 --> 34:38.000]  often dealing with much more serious problems, suddenly the narrative changed. And we were told
[34:38.000 --> 34:42.800]  that these are incredibly serious diseases and all children need to be vaccinated.
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[35:45.760 --> 35:52.640]  Why we saw the massive increase in the childhood vaccination schedule from the 1990s through to
[35:52.640 --> 36:02.080]  the present day. What are the numbers of vaccines that they've set up in New Zealand for kids?
[36:02.960 --> 36:08.000]  You know, from like birth to let's say, I guess it was 16 or something like that.
[36:08.000 --> 36:12.560]  They've got like 72 here was what it was just recent until just recently. What do you have in
[36:12.560 --> 36:18.960]  New Zealand? Yeah, that's a really good question. I'm not actually sure. Yeah, ours is not far off.
[36:19.600 --> 36:25.280]  We don't have quite the same number, but it's up there. And it's the big change has been,
[36:25.280 --> 36:32.240]  as I say, the increase since the 1990s. You know, back then, in the 80s and 70s and 80s,
[36:32.240 --> 36:38.240]  there were only a handful that kids would be given and not many shots. But like the United States,
[36:38.240 --> 36:43.280]  the number of shots went up and up and up. And then it started including things like hepatitis,
[36:43.840 --> 36:50.880]  you know, which even on their own terms, kids are not supposed to get. And, you know, up to this
[36:50.880 --> 36:58.720]  point today, we're like you say, a child might get almost 80 shots by the time they're a teenager
[36:58.720 --> 37:04.720]  in a country like the United States. Now, I think there have been some positive moves to try and
[37:04.720 --> 37:10.320]  reduce the number of recommended vaccines on the schedule, but we have to keep in mind they're all
[37:10.320 --> 37:16.320]  fraudulent. None of them are required. So we need more. And some people are saying, well, you know,
[37:16.320 --> 37:23.680]  RFK Junior is doing his work. He's in there. It's hard for us to know how that's going to pan out,
[37:23.680 --> 37:30.640]  because obviously people can still get all of these vaccines. And when they take their children
[37:30.640 --> 37:35.600]  to the doctor, most doctors are still in that mode of thinking where they think all vaccines are
[37:35.600 --> 37:42.080]  required and that you give as many as you can, et cetera. So whether that pans out with any
[37:42.080 --> 37:48.800]  positive influence, I'm not sure. We can see on the ground what is positive is that more people
[37:48.800 --> 37:54.640]  are turning away from vaccines at the moment than going in the other direction. So countries like
[37:54.640 --> 37:59.600]  New Zealand has definitely dropped off and a lot of parents now saying no to the whole vaccination
[37:59.600 --> 38:06.000]  schedule. Good. And is there a lot of pressure on parents? What is the situation with parental
[38:06.000 --> 38:13.200]  consent there in New Zealand? It's not. So we don't have the same situation like California has
[38:13.200 --> 38:17.360]  where children are required to have all the childhood vaccinations in order to go to school
[38:17.360 --> 38:24.000]  and things like there isn't sort of mandatory things like that in place. But in saying that,
[38:24.000 --> 38:30.320]  if you go to a university like a college and you go into particularly a health related career,
[38:30.320 --> 38:37.840]  you're expected to have all of the vaccines plus. So Mark has a funny story where he nearly
[38:37.840 --> 38:41.680]  didn't become a doctor because he was very on the cusp of not taking.
[38:41.680 --> 38:44.800]  Yeah, I got identified as a medical student.
[38:47.440 --> 38:53.280]  I hadn't had all the jabs and I was so close not to having them. And unfortunately,
[38:53.280 --> 38:58.640]  I was gaslit by some of the physicians in the hospital where I was working. And when I raised
[38:58.640 --> 39:04.720]  a few concerns, they said, oh, no, this is it's all discredited anti-vaxxer stuff. And they said,
[39:04.720 --> 39:09.200]  don't even bother looking at that stuff because yeah, there's been a lot of analysis, etc. And
[39:10.320 --> 39:18.480]  yeah, so I came close to not having many of the vaccines when I was as a medical student. But
[39:18.480 --> 39:24.000]  unfortunately, yeah, that pressure of they said I couldn't progress basically into clinical
[39:24.000 --> 39:30.720]  medicine. And unfortunately, I had a few of the vaccines back then, but luckily, no adverse
[39:31.360 --> 39:36.320]  events. It's kind of a loyalty test, isn't it? You know, are you loyal to pharma? If not,
[39:36.320 --> 39:40.800]  we can't put you in the medical field if you're going to question what pharma is doing. It's kind
[39:40.800 --> 39:45.200]  of interesting how they focus on medical students like that. And doctors and nurses.
[39:45.920 --> 39:51.680]  Exactly. It's opticians, it's every physios across the board, you know, and you're right,
[39:51.680 --> 39:57.600]  it totally is. It's this test. And you realize I didn't kind of appreciate it until what happened
[39:57.600 --> 40:04.080]  after 2020, when you start questioning germ, questioning vaccines is standing on a landmine,
[40:04.080 --> 40:11.360]  but questioning germ theory is like you cannot be in the club if you think like this. It's real,
[40:12.160 --> 40:18.720]  you'll be ostracized. Yeah, and they don't want any discussion about it. That was what was terrible
[40:18.720 --> 40:28.000]  was our training in the medical system about vaccines was essentially based around how many
[40:28.000 --> 40:33.440]  vaccines kids should have, like, you know, memorizing the schedule, and how to deal with
[40:34.000 --> 40:41.040]  so-called anti-vaxxers. And they were presented as, you know, these deluded people who had,
[40:41.840 --> 40:44.880]  who were making money out of I don't know how you make money.
[40:47.200 --> 40:50.720]  Yeah, we know how you make money selling vaccines, but to tell people not to buy it,
[40:50.720 --> 40:56.080]  there's no money in that really. Yeah, well, while Sam's bank accounts were being frozen,
[40:56.080 --> 41:02.320]  we were looking up Pfizer going my goodness, they made 100 billion. And we couldn't quite work out
[41:02.320 --> 41:07.440]  how the money is and being against the vaccines. But we were told that it was what we were told
[41:07.440 --> 41:13.840]  David, we were told that these anti vaccine people, sophisticated operators who, you know,
[41:13.840 --> 41:19.840]  make a lot of money. And, and it was we didn't even look back then at science, they didn't say
[41:19.840 --> 41:25.200]  to us, well, here's the figures, or here's the original papers, they didn't want you looking at
[41:25.200 --> 41:32.960]  that. So essentially, and we found out since then, that the, the medical schools, the academia,
[41:32.960 --> 41:39.520]  the scientific journals are largely controlled by the pharmaceutical industry, and the medical
[41:39.520 --> 41:45.680]  establishment, it's in their interest to train the doctors up and Peter gotcha has, you know,
[41:45.760 --> 41:51.040]  his book, deadly medicines and organized crime, really exposes this.
[41:53.600 --> 41:59.040]  Yeah, that the narratives, the narratives are set by the industry. So there'll be these catch
[41:59.040 --> 42:06.880]  phrases safe and effective as one that came out of the Thalidomide era. And they'll have all of
[42:06.880 --> 42:11.920]  these things that doctors go around saying, and the doctors think that this comes from
[42:12.480 --> 42:20.160]  honest, hardworking doctors, and the origins of these catch phrases, go back to the pharmaceutical
[42:20.160 --> 42:26.640]  industry, and their marketing gurus. And unfortunately, it permeates the whole medical
[42:26.640 --> 42:32.320]  world to the point where it's just taken for granted and believed. Do you know, really quickly,
[42:32.320 --> 42:37.760]  I can't remember if I told you this last time, David, but I remember so vividly, I graduated in
[42:37.760 --> 42:44.560]  2005 from medical school. And so around 2003, I think it was we had our pediatric rotation,
[42:44.560 --> 42:51.280]  and they spent a morning with us, teaching us how to deal with anti vaxxers. That was the whole
[42:51.280 --> 42:58.480]  thing. And they said, I remember it because I was I mean, I was staunchly pro vaccine at this point.
[42:58.480 --> 43:04.560]  And and that they would say, they'll come at you, and they'll have lots of paperwork. And don't
[43:04.560 --> 43:09.280]  worry about looking at any of it. What you need to focus on is that they've refuted all this,
[43:09.280 --> 43:13.520]  that this has all been, it's nonsense what they're telling you, they're in a cult, and this is what
[43:13.520 --> 43:18.960]  they believe, and you have to kind of talk them out of it. And it was this really patronizing kind
[43:18.960 --> 43:24.080]  of talk down on like, oh, yes, doctors, we know best. And now I think, oh, my gosh, they're just
[43:24.080 --> 43:30.640]  training you up to what this is, this is a really evil kind of, and I don't know if that's still
[43:30.640 --> 43:35.840]  going. But that's definitely what I had. Yeah. Well, I remember, I remember in the summer of
[43:35.840 --> 43:40.320]  2020, when they were talking about rolling out this vaccine, and they had already wargamed how
[43:40.320 --> 43:45.600]  they're going to psychologically manipulate people. Yale had done a study, and they had about a dozen
[43:45.600 --> 43:52.160]  different categories of things that they could use. And they'd actually done double blind testing,
[43:52.160 --> 43:58.080]  unlike the vaccines. So they actually tested the psychological stuff, and the way that you would
[43:58.080 --> 44:02.720]  think that they would test a drug or something, but they had a control group that didn't get the
[44:02.720 --> 44:07.280]  narrative, and then somebody else they would use that argument on to see if it was effective. And
[44:07.280 --> 44:11.520]  it was all the kind of stuff like, you know, you need to do this for your neighbor, this is like
[44:11.520 --> 44:17.280]  the moonshot, you need to trust science, and all the narratives that we were sold, those were all
[44:18.080 --> 44:25.200]  tested with focus groups and with control groups. And that part of it was very scientific. That was
[44:25.200 --> 44:29.680]  the only part that really had any science with it, was the behavioral science. And it's kind of
[44:29.680 --> 44:33.840]  interesting because they create this kind of science fiction world with viruses and all the
[44:33.840 --> 44:39.200]  rest of the stuff. And it's, it is an interesting and very complete universe, you know, but of course,
[44:39.200 --> 44:44.000]  JRR Tolkien did that with Lord of the Rings. He had a very intricate universe that he created,
[44:44.000 --> 44:48.080]  but it was all fake. So just because it's intricate doesn't mean that it's true.
[44:48.080 --> 44:53.760]  And the good science fiction is when you don't have logical gaps in the universe that you created,
[44:54.400 --> 44:58.720]  and that was what I was seeing in 2020. When I'm watching this closely, it's like, wait a minute,
[44:59.840 --> 45:03.680]  what they're telling you doesn't make any sense at all. For example, all the stuff,
[45:03.680 --> 45:07.440]  your mask doesn't protect you, other people's masks protect you, all that kind of stuff,
[45:07.440 --> 45:12.160]  which has been the long-term narrative for the vaccine. That was a tip as to where they were
[45:12.160 --> 45:17.440]  going with the vaccine. But that type of stuff, they had all these different things that were
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[46:26.960 --> 46:33.680]  It didn't hang together. No, and that astounded us too, David. In New Zealand, we had these really
[46:33.680 --> 46:38.640]  peculiar things. Like the government introduced this level system and this traffic light system.
[46:38.640 --> 46:43.600]  And they said, hey, look, when there's heaps of cases out there, we're going to shut down
[46:43.600 --> 46:48.240]  the whole country. It goes into red light, et cetera. And then when there are not many
[46:48.240 --> 46:52.240]  cases, we can open things up again. You know, this is during the COVID era.
[46:52.240 --> 46:57.440]  And then they just did the complete opposite in front of everyone. So we have no cases.
[46:57.440 --> 47:02.240]  We literally had no cases even on their terms. And they shut New Zealand down and said,
[47:02.240 --> 47:10.240]  you can't leave your house. And then later on in 2022, when they allowed the rat test,
[47:10.240 --> 47:15.520]  the rapid antigen test to flood out there, of course, people just started testing at home.
[47:15.520 --> 47:21.120]  And the number of cases went through the roof. And then they just said, it's time to open up.
[47:21.120 --> 47:28.320]  You know, it was completely illogical. It made no sense on their own traffic light level system.
[47:28.320 --> 47:35.760]  And Sam and I, of course, had refuted the entire notion that there was SARS-CoV-2 virus,
[47:35.760 --> 47:40.320]  or that COVID-19 represented some sort of new illness. It was all circular reasoning.
[47:40.960 --> 47:45.360]  But aside from that, we thought the people who bought into the narrative,
[47:45.360 --> 47:48.320]  surely at this point, they're going, this makes no sense. You know?
[47:49.600 --> 47:55.440]  But for the people who really buy into the narrative, I think they just take the bits
[47:55.440 --> 48:01.040]  that suit them and discard the bits that don't suit them. And it's a wider problem.
[48:01.200 --> 48:04.720]  I don't know how it was in New Zealand. But here, you know, if you went to a restaurant,
[48:04.720 --> 48:09.440]  for example, you had to wear a mask in order to be seated at a table. But once you got seated at
[48:09.440 --> 48:13.040]  the table, you could take the mask off. And then if you need to get up to go to the bathroom,
[48:13.040 --> 48:16.080]  you could walk through the restaurant without a mask on. It was all okay. And it's like,
[48:16.080 --> 48:20.720]  wait a minute, this doesn't make any sense. And I had a couple of, I knew I wasn't going to get
[48:20.720 --> 48:25.280]  anywhere if it was a chain. But I went to places that were locally owned. And I said, I want to
[48:25.280 --> 48:28.640]  speak to the owner. And I talked to them. They said, yeah, we know it doesn't make any sense.
[48:28.640 --> 48:33.040]  But you got to do it. And it's like, you're selling the rope that's going to hang here.
[48:33.040 --> 48:38.480]  This is crazy. And it was that kind of crazy stuff. And yet, the reality is that people
[48:38.480 --> 48:41.840]  were going along with it, whether they believed it or not. I don't know if other people
[48:42.720 --> 48:48.480]  believed it or they disbelieved it. But I know they complied with it. And, you know, it's just,
[48:48.480 --> 48:54.960]  to me, that was the worst kind of insanity. Now, we haven't had any kind of review or anything.
[48:54.960 --> 48:58.960]  They didn't even pretend to have a review here in the United States. There has been a pretend
[49:00.080 --> 49:05.200]  review, a pretend inquiry in the UK. And you've got one going in New Zealand as well, right? You
[49:05.200 --> 49:10.320]  got a couple of them. And these are typically going to be a whitewash. Is that situation that's
[49:10.320 --> 49:14.640]  going on in New Zealand, I guess? Yeah, they make it out like something's actually happening.
[49:14.640 --> 49:21.200]  Nothing's happening. It's just, it's to placate the masses that there was some, oh, let's find a,
[49:21.200 --> 49:25.120]  oh, this could have been done. You know, maybe we should have locked down harder earlier. Maybe
[49:25.120 --> 49:30.560]  that should have been what happened. Yeah, it's an absolute gaslight, David. And it's really
[49:30.560 --> 49:36.640]  disappointing to see people buying into this stuff. And obviously, the government run these
[49:36.640 --> 49:40.960]  so-called inquiries. They appoint people they say are independent, but of course, they're these
[49:41.520 --> 49:46.160]  people that already go along with the establishment narrative, etc. So here in New
[49:46.160 --> 49:52.480]  Zealand, to give you an idea of what a joke it was, the people that propagated the scam,
[49:52.480 --> 49:59.920]  so the big names like the Director General of Health and Jacinda Ardern, the Minister of Health,
[49:59.920 --> 50:05.840]  and yeah, the Prime Minister at that time, Ardern, all of them were excused at the last minute. They
[50:05.840 --> 50:11.440]  didn't have to answer any questions. And because, you know, the public had a lot of questions for
[50:11.440 --> 50:16.720]  them. But suddenly, at the last minute, they announced, no, they don't have to say anything.
[50:17.840 --> 50:23.600]  They were running the scam, but that's nothing to do. Yeah, it was really bizarre. And then you had,
[50:23.600 --> 50:29.200]  it's really sad to see because you had these groups going to the inquiry and presenting serious
[50:29.200 --> 50:34.960]  information, which was quickly dismissed because the government would then just counter it with
[50:34.960 --> 50:41.520]  their, quote, expert, who would say, Oh, no, that's not correct. I can't get into the details why
[50:41.520 --> 50:46.720]  that's not correct. But because I'm an expert, I just know the stuff. So yeah, complete waste of
[50:46.720 --> 50:55.520]  time. But I mean, countries like New Zealand and the UK, they love this sort of thing, you know,
[50:55.520 --> 51:01.360]  their royal inquiries or their national inquiries and stuff. And we do that occasionally. We'll
[51:01.520 --> 51:06.000]  have, we'll have congressional committees are looking to something like Benghazi and they just
[51:06.000 --> 51:10.880]  go back and forth. Nothing ever comes of it. We had the Warren Commission when JFK was assassinated
[51:10.880 --> 51:16.000]  and what we got out of that was this magic bullet theory. So maybe that's why the, maybe that's why
[51:16.000 --> 51:21.760]  the public is not pressing for this or it might just be apathy, which is kind of what I'm thinking
[51:21.760 --> 51:25.680]  it is. I'm thinking it's not so much, you know, we've tried this before and they never tell us
[51:25.680 --> 51:31.120]  the truth. It's not that kind of cynicism. I think it's really apathy from the American public
[51:31.120 --> 51:35.280]  and that's the thing that really concerns me. We didn't even try to get any answers here in America.
[51:36.960 --> 51:44.480]  But I, in some ways I sympathize because everyone is saturated with constant fear and drama and war
[51:44.480 --> 51:49.840]  and whatever. I mean, it's just, it's, it's overwhelming. And I mean, the things I take
[51:49.840 --> 51:55.600]  that are really positive, like we talked about earlier was just that people are people, many,
[51:55.600 --> 52:00.960]  many people are regretting that they ever took the vaccine. They're not willing to be tricked again.
[52:00.960 --> 52:07.440]  There's this huge distrust within the medical system. People are fearful of it and don't want
[52:07.440 --> 52:13.680]  to kind of be involved with it. And it's questioning all sorts of other things like virology. And I
[52:13.680 --> 52:19.840]  think it's, that is the great thing about it is we have to take the positives and everything comes
[52:19.840 --> 52:25.440]  from the people. It can't come from, I mean, the government is just so, it's all, as you know,
[52:25.520 --> 52:30.480]  it's just so controlled. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And, yeah. And that's why we really focus, David,
[52:30.480 --> 52:36.320]  as you know, with our publications is to get people to the point where they can say,
[52:36.880 --> 52:43.200]  oh, this contagion is not what I've been told because look at this influenza, the Spanish
[52:43.200 --> 52:48.480]  flu experiments, they didn't work. Look at the measles. They never, ever showed it was contagious
[52:48.480 --> 52:54.000]  despite these things. Common colds didn't work in their 40 year history of trying these experiments.
[52:54.640 --> 53:01.040]  And once you get people to see that stuff, they can't unsee it. So they don't need to then go
[53:01.040 --> 53:06.400]  back through and repeat the process because one of the worst things you'll see is people getting
[53:06.400 --> 53:12.960]  into arguments about face masks, for instance. And if they can see that there's no contagion
[53:12.960 --> 53:19.120]  in the first place, the face mask has nothing to do with that whole world. Face masks, they do have
[53:19.120 --> 53:25.280]  uses. So for people that work in industry where there's particulate matter in the factories or
[53:25.840 --> 53:31.760]  environment, it's really important, but face masks, they should not be a discussion within.
[53:31.760 --> 53:34.960]  Yeah. And that was one of the things we were talking about at the time, you know,
[53:34.960 --> 53:39.760]  they're saying, okay, virus particles are this size. And if you look at the size of the filter,
[53:39.760 --> 53:44.320]  it's like, it's not going to work for that. They even put it on the side of the box, you know,
[53:44.320 --> 53:48.480]  as I go protect you against any virus. And yet it was mandated for this kind of stuff. That's what
[53:48.480 --> 53:53.840]  I was saying about when I talking about, when I said, if you create a science fiction world,
[53:53.840 --> 53:59.280]  you've got to have some consistent rules within it. So don't tell me that you've got this tiny
[53:59.280 --> 54:02.640]  particle and then tell me that I've got a, it's like saying that you're going to keep mosquitoes
[54:02.640 --> 54:07.840]  out by using a chain link fence. It isn't going to work. Yeah, totally. And that's what we think
[54:07.840 --> 54:13.840]  is we call them distraction narratives because they're downstream from the key issues. And we
[54:13.840 --> 54:19.360]  always say to people go upstream, like is contagion a thing? And it's the same with
[54:19.360 --> 54:24.640]  vaccination. Now we know that there are some researchers who focus on the epidemiology
[54:24.640 --> 54:30.240]  of vaccines, but, and that's fine because they often show they can refute vaccines that way.
[54:30.800 --> 54:36.240]  But we also encourage people to go upstream and say the epidemiology doesn't even matter
[54:36.240 --> 54:43.200]  because the foundational science fails and not just on one, but on everything, on all of
[54:43.200 --> 54:50.800]  virology, on all of, you know, the bacterial so-called infections, none of them show
[54:51.360 --> 54:57.440]  that there are microbes that cause disease. Now you do get some microbes that increase in numbers
[54:58.000 --> 55:04.560]  during certain diseases like pneumonia, et cetera, but that's not, there's no experiment
[55:04.560 --> 55:10.640]  that ever showed that they cause the disease. It may be a consequence, in other words, right?
[55:10.640 --> 55:13.760]  A consequence of the disease and effect of the disease and not the cause.
[55:14.960 --> 55:20.080]  Totally. And once people get this, that they can say, oh my goodness, the, there is, the
[55:20.080 --> 55:26.000]  GEM theory is wrong. It should never have been called a theory. It was a hypothesis and the
[55:26.000 --> 55:31.680]  hypothesis was refuted over and over again. The experiments kept on failing and they just had to
[55:31.680 --> 55:38.320]  keep making up these new narratives to keep people in this mode. And once people see it,
[55:38.320 --> 55:45.680]  as I say, they don't even worry about these downstream arguments and straight away they say,
[55:45.680 --> 55:51.600]  well, that's fine because it doesn't bother me. And, you know, it's giving people that knowledge
[55:51.600 --> 55:58.240]  not to be afraid because, you know, it's one thing for people to realize that vaccines aren't useful,
[55:58.240 --> 56:05.920]  but it's way more beneficial for themselves and their family to know, hey, you're not going to,
[56:05.920 --> 56:11.520]  you're not going to catch diseases. Diseases build up from within. You're not, other people
[56:11.520 --> 56:15.600]  are not going to make you sick in the sense that they're going to give you some sort of
[56:15.600 --> 56:21.680]  infectious microbe. And once that way of thinking disappears, we find that people are just, they're
[56:21.680 --> 56:26.080]  free basically. They've left that cage. The other thing, just touching on what you were
[56:26.080 --> 56:34.480]  saying before about masks and things, what really woke me up in a way in 2020 was when you see that
[56:34.480 --> 56:42.560]  the fraud is right in front of you. So the fraud, what I saw strongly when really started to question
[56:42.560 --> 56:47.680]  things was the tests and that the tests themselves, these are when the PCR tests were being used,
[56:48.240 --> 56:54.000]  would say these are not diagnostic. And I thought, how can this be? And that's before you even go
[56:54.000 --> 56:59.600]  upstream like Mike says, and you go, oh my gosh, there's no such thing as SARS-CoV-2 doesn't even
[56:59.600 --> 57:05.920]  exist. This is when you can see it with open eyes and go, oh my gosh, it's right in my face here
[57:05.920 --> 57:10.960]  on the mask packets. It says that these won't work. And yet people are walking around with them. And
[57:10.960 --> 57:18.720]  you think, how can this be? And that following that road will eventually lead you to freedom.
[57:19.360 --> 57:24.160]  I'm going, I don't need to be part, I don't need to partake in these rituals anymore.
[57:24.160 --> 57:29.200]  It truly was a bad science fiction movie, wasn't it? And I remember there was head of state in,
[57:29.200 --> 57:34.000]  maybe it was Africa or something, where he tested some fruit and he got a positive test on it.
[57:34.000 --> 57:42.000]  But I had an EMS listener who has worked in the field for decades and he was very skeptical about
[57:42.000 --> 57:46.080]  all this stuff. And he had somebody open up on these packages and run it straight through without
[57:46.080 --> 57:51.360]  touching anything else and got a positive. So you look at all this stuff and, and again,
[57:51.360 --> 57:56.320]  the guy who developed it said, you can't use this for diagnostic purposes. Carey Mullis said that.
[57:56.320 --> 58:00.960]  And so knowing all that stuff, I got to say, it was still, you haven't been back of your mind.
[58:00.960 --> 58:05.520]  It's like, well, you know, you hear all this stuff. And, you know, I was absolutely convinced
[58:05.520 --> 58:11.120]  because of the, the war, the germ games that they'd been doing. The first one, two months before,
[58:11.920 --> 58:17.120]  9 11 dark winter, I knew what that was. I'd been tipped off by somebody said,
[58:17.120 --> 58:20.480]  they're talking about dark winter too. And you know what that was about? And he's like, yeah,
[58:20.480 --> 58:24.720]  you know, and so be careful, watch out for this. And then they came out. It was exactly what they
[58:24.720 --> 58:30.720]  had practiced, you know, for 20 years, the first one, just two months before 9 11. And so I knew
[58:30.720 --> 58:34.480]  it was a hoax, but you still have in the back of your mind, you know, what if, you know, there's
[58:34.480 --> 58:39.360]  this little thing, but if you understand what you're telling people, then it is the final
[58:39.360 --> 58:43.280]  pandemic. And you don't have to worry about it anymore. This truth set you free, doesn't it?
[58:45.200 --> 58:49.680]  Yeah, exactly. And I think it's getting people into that mindset, like Sam says,
[58:49.680 --> 58:54.880]  of just not participating in the rituals. You just, you can completely get out of it and people say,
[58:54.880 --> 58:59.040]  well, you need to take a test and you say, well, no, I don't, there's no need for me to do that
[58:59.040 --> 59:03.680]  because it's, it's not a diagnostic test or people will say, well, you need to wear a mask. And you
[59:03.680 --> 59:08.960]  say, well, why I'm not on a building site, I'm not breathing in dust. So that's not a thing.
[59:08.960 --> 59:13.360]  It's yeah, it's getting them well and truly out of that. It's bretsky. I don't know how they let
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[01:00:12.320 --> 01:00:19.040]  And yeah, as you say, these exercises they were doing, they date right back in those decades
[01:00:19.040 --> 01:00:26.240]  leading up. And obviously in the 2010s, these tabletop exercises started becoming more common
[01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:34.000]  and you know, right up until COVID time. And in the final pandemic in our book, we also
[01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:44.480]  exposed that they were in the late 2010s. So around 2017, 2018, suddenly the whole anti-vaxxer thing
[01:00:44.480 --> 01:00:50.560]  becomes big in their white papers. And they start talking about how to this problem with anti-vaxxers
[01:00:50.560 --> 01:00:54.880]  and how they're going to combat it and all this kind of stuff. Because what was interesting was
[01:00:54.880 --> 01:01:02.480]  that these organizations who are linked up to globalist organizations, pharmaceutical industry,
[01:01:03.120 --> 01:01:09.040]  the medical establishment, none of them were really talking about this until that two years
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:17.760]  before COVID. And clearly they had anticipated that there was going to be a rise in anti-vaccine
[01:01:17.760 --> 01:01:24.080]  sentiment. But one thing that was interesting was that they didn't anticipate the rise in people who
[01:01:24.080 --> 01:01:30.640]  could see straight through germ theory and virology. And they didn't see, it was people
[01:01:30.640 --> 01:01:37.200]  like Sam that they didn't see coming because, you know, she's a network TV doctor, you know,
[01:01:37.200 --> 01:01:46.000]  presenting generally mainstream stuff. And then suddenly the COVID narrative is so preposterous
[01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:52.000]  that people like us said, well, hang on a minute, we need to say something here. And of course,
[01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:57.680]  the whole house of cards came down with, you know, these alleged pandemics.
[01:01:57.680 --> 01:02:02.240]  Well, I really do appreciate and admire your integrity. Sam, you're the only person I know
[01:02:02.240 --> 01:02:08.880]  that's lost two careers over this. Not only on TV, but in terms of medicine as well, the way they've
[01:02:08.880 --> 01:02:13.920]  come after you and punitively come after you as well. And so I really do appreciate your integrity
[01:02:13.920 --> 01:02:18.720]  sticking to the truth. It is so important what you're doing. Tell people again, is the website
[01:02:18.720 --> 01:02:22.560]  the best place for people to find you? And can they get your books there at the website? Is that
[01:02:22.560 --> 01:02:28.480]  the best place? Thank you, David. Yeah, please. It's because, you know, we do the censorship dance
[01:02:28.480 --> 01:02:35.040]  too, like you do. It's always just, especially sub-stacks being tricky. So no, the best place
[01:02:35.040 --> 01:02:42.320]  to find us is always the website, DrSamBailey.com. And you can, there's a tab there which has got all
[01:02:42.320 --> 01:02:48.000]  of our books and you can download Mark Slater's one for free or buy it if you wish to. That's
[01:02:48.000 --> 01:02:55.280]  all good. We just wish to spread that information and hopefully reduce people's fear in the process.
[01:02:56.160 --> 01:03:02.000]  And people, there's a search bar on the website. So people can just, because we've covered
[01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:06.640]  hundreds and hundreds of topics, because people will say, hey, what about rabies, et cetera? So
[01:03:06.640 --> 01:03:11.680]  we've got a search bar there and people can just type in these terms and hopefully we've covered
[01:03:11.680 --> 01:03:20.640]  it already. It's a wealth of information, yes. I'm sorry, I'm also on YouTube, but I'm hanging on
[01:03:20.640 --> 01:03:30.400]  by a thread there. And yeah, just so you know, but there's, yeah, sub-stack and also I'm on
[01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:38.240]  Telegram and Instagram in a little way. But yeah, so just- And people can find you at DrSamBailey,
[01:03:38.240 --> 01:03:43.920]  that's D-R-S-A-M-Bailey-B-A-I-L-E-Y.com, right? That's the place where they can find,
[01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:49.360]  go directly there. And then you don't have any people in between trying to hide you. And that's
[01:03:49.360 --> 01:03:54.080]  what the search engines have become. They've become not a tool to find things, but a tool to
[01:03:54.720 --> 01:04:00.960]  hide things, especially people like Dr. Bailey. And so I really do appreciate what you're doing.
[01:04:00.960 --> 01:04:06.080]  I know that it's cost you a great deal. You didn't become billionaires like the people of
[01:04:06.080 --> 01:04:11.200]  Pfizer and Moderna. Instead, just the opposite. And you've continued to push the truth out there
[01:04:11.200 --> 01:04:15.360]  to help people. I really do appreciate that. Can't tell you how much I appreciate that. Thank you.
[01:04:16.960 --> 01:04:17.840]  Thank you, David.
[01:04:17.840 --> 01:04:20.720]  Thank you for what you're doing. Appreciate it. Have a good day.
[01:04:20.720 --> 01:04:24.000]  Well, I want to give you a little bit of an appendix here to this interview, because
[01:04:24.000 --> 01:04:28.080]  after we stopped the interview, they were still on the line and we talked a little bit about what
[01:04:28.080 --> 01:04:32.240]  they've been going through and they had a fascinating story that you've got to hear.
[01:04:32.240 --> 01:04:36.720]  So here's what they had to say. You tried to come to the United States and what happened
[01:04:36.720 --> 01:04:44.320]  when you tried to make the trip? So in June of last year, I was trying to buy some stationery
[01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:50.720]  from the shop. And what happened was none of my cards would work. And I was like, this is really
[01:04:50.720 --> 01:04:56.480]  weird because I just paid off my credit card. And so I went to the bank and then the bank teller
[01:04:56.480 --> 01:05:04.320]  wrote on a piece of paper and said, have you recently been made bankrupt? And she slid it to
[01:05:04.320 --> 01:05:11.040]  me. And I was like, what? No, like I would know something like this, wouldn't I? And she's like,
[01:05:11.040 --> 01:05:14.800]  yeah, yeah, definitely. And then she went away and she's on lots of different phone calls.
[01:05:14.800 --> 01:05:21.040]  And then she comes back to me and shows me this, the website, which is for in New Zealand,
[01:05:21.040 --> 01:05:27.200]  it's the insolvency website. And my name is on there. And three days earlier, a high court
[01:05:27.200 --> 01:05:32.880]  had declared me bankrupt because of this money from the medical council that they say I owe
[01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:39.840]  the $170,000, $160,000. Yeah. So just to be clear, it wasn't because Sam was insolvent or
[01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:46.080]  bankrupt. It was just because she'd never paid the medical quote authorities their COVID fines,
[01:05:46.080 --> 01:05:51.040]  which, you know, $160,000 or something. And they did all this stuff in secret.
[01:05:51.600 --> 01:05:55.680]  So it's like a bank robbery, except the banker is the one passing you the note to say we took
[01:05:55.680 --> 01:06:01.600]  all your money. It was insane. Honestly, David, like when it happened, because it caused such a
[01:06:01.600 --> 01:06:07.840]  shock. And then from there, because we were supposed to be going to the States for this trip,
[01:06:07.840 --> 01:06:14.080]  and you're not allowed to technically travel overseas without permission, you know, because
[01:06:14.080 --> 01:06:18.160]  they think you're going to abscond with money or something. And so I thought, oh, no, I'm not going
[01:06:18.160 --> 01:06:22.000]  to be able to go to the States. And this is something I was just so looking forward to.
[01:06:22.640 --> 01:06:27.920]  And anyway, we fought it in the courts, went to the high court two weeks before we were due to
[01:06:27.920 --> 01:06:32.640]  go to the States, because they hadn't done their due process. They'd never told me they'd never
[01:06:32.640 --> 01:06:36.880]  served me with any, I had no information whatsoever that this had been going on behind the scenes.
[01:06:37.440 --> 01:06:46.000]  So I, but the judge reserved the decision. So I didn't know whether I'd be able to travel.
[01:06:46.640 --> 01:06:55.360]  And anyway, I just, I believe in God. And I went, we flew up and Mark and I split up our gear. So
[01:06:55.360 --> 01:06:59.280]  because Mark was speaking at this conference, and so I was I was supposed to, Mark had the
[01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:06.400]  laptop and I had the car keys and some New Zealand money in case they said no. And then we went
[01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.720]  through the, you know, the, the smart things gates and, and then it did the green tick.
[01:07:12.720 --> 01:07:18.960]  And I basically, I just broke down crying because I finally knew that I could go. And we hadn't been
[01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:25.200]  the last time we'd been to the States was in 2016. And, and for us, this is such a huge thing
[01:07:25.200 --> 01:07:31.120]  because it was meeting all these people that we've been working with since COVID. And I've always
[01:07:31.120 --> 01:07:37.040]  wanted to meet. And now I knew I could give them people hugs and like actually talk. And it was
[01:07:37.040 --> 01:07:43.200]  just such an amazing, we had such a wonderful time. So, and then when we came back, I got the
[01:07:43.200 --> 01:07:49.920]  news that the bankruptcy had been annulled. So it was just an amazing time. Yeah. So the,
[01:07:49.920 --> 01:07:54.960]  the judge ruled that it was unlawful, the actions that they'd taken trying to seize bank accounts,
[01:07:54.960 --> 01:08:01.440]  et cetera. They're still actively going off saying that Sam has to pay these COVID fines.
[01:08:03.040 --> 01:08:05.840]  Even though the judge has ruled it unlawful, they're still coming after you?
[01:08:06.720 --> 01:08:13.360]  Well, he ruled the process that they took as unlawful, not the underlying claim that Sam
[01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:18.560]  needs to pay these COVID fines, but it is preposterous. And many doctors in New Zealand
[01:08:18.560 --> 01:08:22.160]  are starting to challenge this stuff now. They're just saying, look, this is outrageous. Why, why
[01:08:22.160 --> 01:08:28.640]  are we getting six figure fines for questioning something? There's no, no patient has ever come
[01:08:28.640 --> 01:08:33.840]  forward to say they were harmed. They can't find anyone in the entire nation who got harmed by
[01:08:33.840 --> 01:08:39.920]  anything that Sam said, or that any of the other doctors said who were practicing at the time. But
[01:08:39.920 --> 01:08:45.680]  this is the world we're living in where they are trying to scare. This is, we think it's a good
[01:08:45.680 --> 01:08:51.040]  sign that this is how desperate it's become, that you have to give doctors six figure fines if they
[01:08:51.040 --> 01:08:56.960]  don't agree with the narrative. And I think- It shows desperation, doesn't it? It shows desperation.
[01:08:57.920 --> 01:09:02.720]  That's all they've got now is these financial penalties. They know that they can't stop people
[01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:08.720]  from speaking out. And yeah, so that's, I think we have to see the positive side of things. And
[01:09:08.720 --> 01:09:15.200]  it was quite satisfying when the judge ruled in Sam's favor and told them it was unlawful what
[01:09:15.200 --> 01:09:20.160]  they were doing. And it makes you much more resilient. Like you said, David, like I think
[01:09:20.160 --> 01:09:25.600]  in terms of realizing, okay, this is all they've got. Like they tried to get me to sign a gag order
[01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:32.400]  way back in September, 2020. And I wouldn't, you know, and I'll never, I'm so pleased every step
[01:09:32.400 --> 01:09:38.320]  I've taken. It's been an empowering thing. And I feel great that this is all they've got. Like
[01:09:38.320 --> 01:09:45.600]  they're still worried about me, the little me. I'm not, you know, an aggressive person, but it's
[01:09:45.600 --> 01:09:51.040]  like, this is the threat. That's right. Well, one person who is determined to tell the truth,
[01:09:51.040 --> 01:09:54.960]  that's the key thing that they can't handle. And of course, it's not science either. If you
[01:09:54.960 --> 01:10:00.480]  can't handle skepticism, you know, the science only advances when somebody questions a narrative
[01:10:00.480 --> 01:10:06.000]  and they should never be in fear of trying to explain themselves and what they're doing. Then
[01:10:06.000 --> 01:10:11.840]  it obviously isn't science. It's not based on data and the scientific method. That's what I've said
[01:10:11.840 --> 01:10:15.760]  all along about so many of these different frauds. We see this type of thing happening over and over
[01:10:15.760 --> 01:10:21.040]  again, but it really underscores, I think, the fact that you kind of see this as a ministry.
[01:10:21.040 --> 01:10:26.400]  You see this as a way of helping people and that is really your heart and your motivation. And I
[01:10:26.400 --> 01:10:31.680]  really appreciate that. Thank you so much for doing that. I really do appreciate that. Thank you both
[01:10:31.680 --> 01:10:38.480]  of you. Doctors Mark and Sam Bailey. God bless. Thank you. Thank you, David. Thank you, David.
[01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:44.720]  Thank you. Well, we'll fit that in somehow. That was too important to let go. Yeah, absolutely. So
[01:10:44.720 --> 01:10:49.600]  yeah, I got the same thing when they came after me. In a sense, no explanation as to what was
[01:10:49.600 --> 01:10:56.400]  going on. It was just PayPal. They also own Venmo and they shut me down on both of those platforms
[01:10:56.400 --> 01:11:00.640]  at the same time. I spent two hours on the phone with a guy and the guy kept going on because,
[01:11:00.640 --> 01:11:06.240]  well, I can't see any reason given here at all. Just a message, shut this account down as right
[01:11:06.240 --> 01:11:11.360]  now. And no explanation given. I've never been given an explanation. I don't have the money
[01:11:11.360 --> 01:11:16.480]  to sue them in court and get an explanation. So I know what it is anyway. I'm not going to spend
[01:11:16.480 --> 01:11:23.920]  the time and the money to try to get confirmation of it. But you have gone through more than anybody
[01:11:23.920 --> 01:11:28.320]  I know and so I really do appreciate that. Thank you so much. It's always an honor to talk to you.
[01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:34.080]  Yeah. Thank you, David. Yeah. Thank you. And so pleased to see you doing well.
[01:11:34.080 --> 01:11:38.160]  Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. In spite of a lot of different things, but again, it's been prayer.
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