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[02:19.000 --> 02:36.000]  In a world of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
[02:36.000 --> 02:44.000]  It's The David Knight Show.
[02:44.000 --> 02:48.000]  As the clock strikes 13, it's Friday the 27th of February.
[02:48.000 --> 02:51.000]  Year of our Lord, 2026.
[02:51.000 --> 02:56.000]  Well, today we're going to have a couple of interviews I think you're going to find really informative.
[02:56.000 --> 02:59.000]  We have one person who's going to share his cancer story.
[02:59.000 --> 03:05.000]  He has now 52 years past the point they said he'd be dead.
[03:05.000 --> 03:08.000]  I think you're going to find it very enlightening, very hopeful.
[03:08.000 --> 03:11.000]  As a matter of fact, he's got an acronym for what he does.
[03:11.000 --> 03:21.000]  Hope helping other people escape, escape the kind of medieval treatment that we have in the cancer community that's here.
[03:21.000 --> 03:26.000]  But we're also going to be talking about another thing that a lot of people dismiss as medieval.
[03:26.000 --> 03:33.000]  I want to finish up what I began yesterday in terms of talking about the satanic singularity that we see coming towards us.
[03:33.000 --> 03:38.000]  And of course, it's all the different aspects of the Epstein pedophile,
[03:38.000 --> 03:48.000]  satanic ritual child abuse that's there, the pharmacia, the sorcery, the push towards using these hallucinogenic drugs that have always been throughout
[03:48.000 --> 03:53.000]  millennia have been used as a way to contact the occult.
[03:53.000 --> 03:59.000]  And of course, the way the CIA has used this and artichoke and MKUltra and many other things,
[03:59.000 --> 04:02.000]  there's all these different threads seem to be coming together.
[04:03.000 --> 04:10.000]  And the Trump administration seems to be ready to do this through so-called disclosure.
[04:10.000 --> 04:12.000]  Well, let's begin with that.
[04:12.000 --> 04:17.000]  I was talking about this yesterday and I ran out of time and there's a lot more that I really wanted to say.
[04:17.000 --> 04:19.000]  Didn't get a chance to cover it.
[04:19.000 --> 04:29.000]  And I just started talking about DMT, which in case you don't know what that is, it's something that has been used for a very long time in the Amazon.
[04:29.000 --> 04:34.000]  And they have used it for psychedelic rituals as part of religions there.
[04:34.000 --> 04:39.000]  And this is something that we have seen used for thousands of years.
[04:39.000 --> 04:44.000]  Of course, the Bible refers to that as pharmacia, translated as sorcery.
[04:44.000 --> 04:47.000]  I used to refer to that all the time as big pharma, pharmacia,
[04:47.000 --> 04:57.000]  because talked about how the biggest men on earth in terms of money and importance and things like that would not repent of their murders and other things.
[04:57.000 --> 04:59.000]  And I think it also ties into that.
[04:59.000 --> 05:03.000]  But this is quite literally what was being talked about in the Bible.
[05:03.000 --> 05:06.000]  And now there's an attempt to mainstream it.
[05:06.000 --> 05:10.000]  It's an attempt that is coming multiple places from government officials and politicians.
[05:10.000 --> 05:17.000]  It's not just the CIA using it for their own occultic programs, but these are politicians that are using it now.
[05:17.000 --> 05:24.000]  And just to give you an idea of DMT, they're now pushing it as a promising therapy for depression.
[05:24.000 --> 05:29.000]  And you've got some pharmaceutical companies that are getting on board to make a lot of money out of it.
[05:29.000 --> 05:39.000]  If you look it up, you will find a lot of people talking about mechanical elves and other beings that they come in contact with when they take DMT.
[05:39.000 --> 05:44.000]  And I know someone who told me that he took it.
[05:44.000 --> 05:48.000]  And he said it's the scariest thing he ever had happen to him in his life.
[05:48.000 --> 05:52.000]  And he gets really wide-eyed when he starts to talk about it.
[05:52.000 --> 05:56.000]  There are common descriptions of what people come across.
[05:56.000 --> 05:58.000]  Here's an example of this.
[05:58.000 --> 06:02.000]  And this is a book that was written by somebody who actually likes it and is pushing it.
[06:02.000 --> 06:04.000]  There's a lot of people who are very excited about it.
[06:04.000 --> 06:13.000]  They even call themselves some of them psychonauts and saying that they're like astronauts who are traveling but into a different dimension.
[06:13.000 --> 06:20.000]  And they want to share their experiences with these beings that they come in contact with.
[06:20.000 --> 06:31.000]  And so here's this one book, The Illustrated Field Guide to DMT Entities, Machine Elves, Tricksters, Teachers, and Other Interdimensional Beings.
[06:31.000 --> 06:38.000]  And there's a quote from another author of another book that's called DMT, The Spirit Molecule.
[06:38.000 --> 06:42.000]  Richard Strassman is the author of that, is an MD.
[06:42.000 --> 06:46.000]  He said, The psychedelic version of fantastic beasts and where to find them.
[06:46.000 --> 06:49.000]  We know where to find them, and now we know what to expect.
[06:49.000 --> 06:51.000]  New species will be discovered.
[06:51.000 --> 07:00.000]  Others may die out, but this compendium of DMT beings provides a most exhaustive snapshot of our day's varieties.
[07:00.000 --> 07:10.000]  Another one, another review from the author of another book about the same type of thing, The Visionary, The Mysterious Origins of Human Consciousness.
[07:10.000 --> 07:17.000]  He writes, The DMT experience is fundamentally about exploring and traveling to unknown or forgotten realms.
[07:17.000 --> 07:21.000]  Realms that are unutterably strange and yet strangely familiar.
[07:21.000 --> 07:25.000]  These realms are inhabited by intelligent beings with much to teach.
[07:25.000 --> 07:34.000]  Like any challenging and perhaps even perilous journey, it's important to prepare and to be willing to learn from the experiences and the hard-won knowledge of others.
[07:34.000 --> 07:50.000]  Another review, DMT is fascinating for many reasons, but not the least because it seems to provide ready access to hyperdimensional realm populated by a vast collection of non-human, intelligent, apparently independent entities.
[07:50.000 --> 08:00.000]  Often these entities seem to have a message or many messages for our species or an individual psychonaut that are weighted with portent.
[08:00.000 --> 08:07.000]  They definitely seem to have a classification system and characteristics that are familiar to many psychedelic voyagers.
[08:07.000 --> 08:09.000]  And then one more I'll give you here.
[08:09.000 --> 08:12.000]  The demonic from the demonic to the divine.
[08:12.000 --> 08:20.000]  This is the most beautiful, comprehensive, and I dare say indispensable guide to the resident fauna of the DMT realm.
[08:20.000 --> 08:28.000]  You won't want to venture into the hyperdimensional hinterlands without this field guide in your back pocket.
[08:28.000 --> 08:34.000]  I imagine when somebody's on a trip of this kind of stuff, you're not going to be pulling out a book to read it.
[08:34.000 --> 08:45.000]  This guy is the author of Alien Information Theory and Reality Switch Technologies, the best bestiary or hyperspace denizens so far.
[08:45.000 --> 08:49.000]  So again, there is a whole culture that has come up around this.
[08:49.000 --> 08:52.000]  And this is ancient. It's been happening for thousands of years.
[08:52.000 --> 09:00.000]  And yet in our lifetime since World War II, we've had this fable of UFOs that has taken place.
[09:00.000 --> 09:02.000]  That is the fable, folks.
[09:02.000 --> 09:05.000]  And yet they want to present that as a scientific reality.
[09:05.000 --> 09:08.000]  That is what is before us.
[09:08.000 --> 09:11.000]  And we need to get a handle on the reference points.
[09:11.000 --> 09:17.000]  This is one that, you know, generally I would say I see eye to eye pretty much on politics with David Icke.
[09:17.000 --> 09:19.000]  But this is where we part ways.
[09:20.000 --> 09:29.000]  Because what he does is he looks at it in the same way that Arthur C. Clarke did in terms of the film that I talked about yesterday, Childhood's End,
[09:29.000 --> 09:36.000]  where he posits in his science fiction he has a group of aliens actually coming from a planet of fire.
[09:36.000 --> 09:42.000]  And they look exactly like all the medieval depictions of Satan or demons,
[09:42.000 --> 09:48.000]  complete with the Baphomet horns and the cloved hooves and all the rest of the stuff and red skin and all the rest of that.
[09:48.000 --> 09:53.000]  And so what he's doing is he's saying, well, it was space aliens all along.
[09:53.000 --> 09:57.000]  You just got it wrong thinking that it was demons, right?
[09:57.000 --> 09:59.000]  And David Icke says the same thing as well.
[09:59.000 --> 10:01.000]  He says you've got all these religions and cultures.
[10:01.000 --> 10:05.000]  They talk about gins. They talk about demons and all the rest of the stuff.
[10:05.000 --> 10:07.000]  But it's really just space aliens.
[10:07.000 --> 10:09.000]  I say they flipped the labels.
[10:09.000 --> 10:11.000]  They flipped the switch.
[10:11.000 --> 10:16.000]  They have done this because they can't posit the idea of there being a god.
[10:16.000 --> 10:20.000]  And so this is an evolutionary inversion of reality.
[10:20.000 --> 10:22.000]  And that's what we need to come to grips with.
[10:22.000 --> 10:25.000]  All these different streams are coming together.
[10:25.000 --> 10:31.000]  The ritualized drugs that play tricks with your mind and perhaps do take you to another realm.
[10:31.000 --> 10:32.000]  Who knows what's happening?
[10:32.000 --> 10:38.000]  There was a guy that was working on a documentary that I met at an event that I was speaking at.
[10:38.000 --> 10:40.000]  And they had gone to Burning Man.
[10:40.000 --> 10:45.000]  And what they said they saw there and were told that they had all these executives,
[10:45.000 --> 10:50.000]  all these Silicon Valley big tech executives, the multi-billionaires.
[10:50.000 --> 10:54.000]  They were all in a tent, a bunch of them in a tent, and they were doing DMT.
[10:54.000 --> 10:59.000]  And they were getting technology from these mechanical elves that they would then use.
[10:59.000 --> 11:04.000]  Now, I don't know if that was true or not, but he said these people thought it was happening.
[11:05.000 --> 11:08.000]  And so when you look at this and what is behind it,
[11:08.000 --> 11:13.000]  whether you're talking about the technocracy and their idea of a singularity,
[11:13.000 --> 11:19.000]  which again is a counterfeit repetition of the lies of the Garden of Eden,
[11:19.000 --> 11:21.000]  when you look at these different threads,
[11:21.000 --> 11:27.000]  the ancient ritualized drugs that would get people in contact with these spirits,
[11:27.000 --> 11:31.000]  as well as the ritualized child abuse,
[11:31.000 --> 11:36.000]  all of it is connected to these intelligence agencies and to Jeffrey Epstein and the people of that ilk.
[11:36.000 --> 11:39.000]  And so all these different threads are coming together.
[11:39.000 --> 11:46.000]  And I think when you look at how they're going to push this out and to what end this is going to be,
[11:46.000 --> 11:50.000]  I think they're ready to do it because we had, as I pointed out yesterday,
[11:50.000 --> 11:54.000]  we had Barack Obama just kind of casually, oh yeah, they're real, you know,
[11:54.000 --> 11:58.000]  and let that sit there for about a day and then he came back from it.
[11:58.000 --> 12:01.000]  The next day, Laura Trump, I don't know if it was the next day,
[12:01.000 --> 12:05.000]  but it was soon after that, Laura Trump on Fox News was talking about it.
[12:05.000 --> 12:10.000]  And I reported this and she said, yeah, my father-in-law has got the letter written.
[12:10.000 --> 12:13.000]  It's just a question of timing.
[12:13.000 --> 12:16.000]  And so we can look at this from a purely political standpoint and say,
[12:16.000 --> 12:19.000]  yeah, he wants to have something that's going to distract people.
[12:19.000 --> 12:22.000]  And certainly there will be an advantage to him for that.
[12:22.000 --> 12:24.000]  But he is also selling this as well.
[12:24.000 --> 12:29.000]  He was then asked a question by Peter Ducey of Fox News on Air Force One
[12:29.000 --> 12:31.000]  about what Obama had said.
[12:31.000 --> 12:33.000]  And this is what Trump said.
[12:33.000 --> 12:37.000]  Barack Obama said that aliens are real.
[12:37.000 --> 12:41.000]  Have you seen any evidence of non-human visitors to Earth?
[12:41.000 --> 12:43.000]  Well, he gave classified information.
[12:43.000 --> 12:45.000]  He's not supposed to be doing that.
[12:45.000 --> 12:46.000]  So aliens are real?
[12:46.000 --> 12:48.000]  Well, I don't know if they're real or not.
[12:48.000 --> 12:50.000]  I can tell you he gave classified information.
[12:50.000 --> 12:52.000]  He's not supposed to be doing that.
[12:52.000 --> 12:54.000]  He made a big mistake.
[12:54.000 --> 12:56.000]  He took it out of classified information.
[12:56.000 --> 12:58.000]  No, I don't have an opinion on it.
[12:58.000 --> 12:59.000]  I never talk about it.
[12:59.000 --> 13:01.000]  A lot of people do.
[13:01.000 --> 13:03.000]  A lot of people believe it.
[13:03.000 --> 13:05.000]  Do you believe it, Peter?
[13:05.000 --> 13:08.000]  Well, the president can declassify anything that he wants to.
[13:08.000 --> 13:09.000]  So if you want to make an announcement.
[13:09.000 --> 13:11.000]  I may get him out of trouble by declassifying.
[13:11.000 --> 13:13.000]  We know the legal alien.
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[14:43.000 --> 14:46.000]  Yeah, maybe he will declassify it, right?
[14:46.000 --> 14:48.000]  And like Laura Trump says, I got the letter written.
[14:48.000 --> 14:50.000]  It's just a matter of when he wants to drop that.
[14:50.000 --> 14:53.000]  And of course, then they asked Pete Hegseth
[14:53.000 --> 14:56.000]  because this is kind of under the Department of Defense.
[14:56.000 --> 14:58.000]  And here's what Pete Hegseth had to say.
[14:58.000 --> 15:01.000]  Three days ago, President Trump directed you to begin the process
[15:01.000 --> 15:05.000]  of identifying and releasing the UFO and UA key files.
[15:05.000 --> 15:08.000]  I mean, did you ever think that you would be the secretary of war
[15:08.000 --> 15:12.000]  in charge of potentially declassifying extraterrestrial life
[15:12.000 --> 15:14.000]  for the American people in the world?
[15:14.000 --> 15:16.000]  I did not. I did not have that on my bingo card at all.
[15:16.000 --> 15:18.000]  And are you prepared to do that now?
[15:18.000 --> 15:20.000]  Of course. I mean, we've got our people working on it right now.
[15:20.000 --> 15:23.000]  I don't want to oversell how much time it will take, right?
[15:23.000 --> 15:25.000]  We're digging in.
[15:25.000 --> 15:27.000]  We're going to be in full compliance with that executive order.
[15:27.000 --> 15:29.000]  We're here to provide that for the president.
[15:29.000 --> 15:32.000]  There'll be more coming on that as far as the process of what we'll do.
[15:32.000 --> 15:34.000]  And what sort of time frame do you have?
[15:34.000 --> 15:36.000]  Do you sense for how long this is going to take?
[15:36.000 --> 15:38.000]  I don't have a time frame for you yet, but stand by.
[15:38.000 --> 15:40.000]  We'll get it for you. Absolutely.
[15:40.000 --> 15:42.000]  And do you think aliens are real? Do you think aliens exist?
[15:42.000 --> 15:45.000]  We'll see. I get to do the review and find out along with you.
[15:46.000 --> 15:48.000]  Well, there are definitely other beings.
[15:48.000 --> 15:52.000]  And of course, every Christian knows that we're not the only intelligent life.
[15:52.000 --> 15:54.000]  We know that God is there.
[15:54.000 --> 15:56.000]  We know that there's angels and demons.
[15:56.000 --> 16:03.000]  And we also know that all this stuff that they like to present as hidden knowledge is simply the occult.
[16:03.000 --> 16:06.000]  And the American government has been trading in the occult
[16:06.000 --> 16:09.000]  and working in the occult for a very, very long time.
[16:09.000 --> 16:15.000]  Going back to the CIA in the mid-20th century, Project Artichoke is about 70 years ago,
[16:15.000 --> 16:20.000]  the CIA discussed hiding mind control drugs and vaccines.
[16:20.000 --> 16:22.000]  This is from Children's Health Defense.
[16:22.000 --> 16:28.000]  The program Project Artichoke ran from 1951 to 1956.
[16:28.000 --> 16:34.000]  So in the 1950s, the CIA brainstormed ways to secretly perform mind control on humans,
[16:34.000 --> 16:39.000]  including concealing drugs and vaccines and widely consumed food products,
[16:39.000 --> 16:42.000]  a newly unearthed CIA document revealed.
[16:42.000 --> 16:45.000]  The Daily Mail first reported the story on Monday.
[16:45.000 --> 16:49.000]  The seven-page document, Special Research for Artichoke,
[16:49.000 --> 16:56.000]  it described a series of ideas for how to develop chemicals designed to alter human behavior via drugs.
[16:56.000 --> 17:01.000]  The proposals contained in the document were part of the CIA's top secret Project Artichoke,
[17:01.000 --> 17:05.000]  which ran from 1951 to 1956, according to the Daily Mail,
[17:05.000 --> 17:10.000]  and included administering drugs in secret as part of a long-range approach to subjects.
[17:10.000 --> 17:14.000]  Again, we know they did this with LSD,
[17:15.000 --> 17:19.000]  and there was a famous scientist who was taken out with that,
[17:19.000 --> 17:27.000]  and so they had no qualms whatsoever giving things to people surreptitiously and without informed consent.
[17:27.000 --> 17:29.000]  The study should include...
[17:29.000 --> 17:36.000]  Also, the whole practice of putting products in food that's consumed that has a psychedelic effect,
[17:36.000 --> 17:40.000]  isn't that essentially fluoride in the water supply after one thing?
[17:40.000 --> 17:42.000]  Yeah, you could put that in that category as well.
[17:42.000 --> 17:46.000]  Yeah, they definitely want to control our minds in order to dumb them down,
[17:46.000 --> 17:50.000]  not to open them up to other beings, but all of these things are part of it.
[17:50.000 --> 17:54.000]  When you look at the CIA, how evil they have been.
[17:54.000 --> 17:57.000]  This didn't start with Jeffrey Epstein.
[17:57.000 --> 17:59.000]  They were doing this a long time before that.
[17:59.000 --> 18:05.000]  They were setting up honeypot traps to blackmail people with sexual stuff,
[18:05.000 --> 18:11.000]  in terms of mind control drugs and all the rest of this, pedophile rings, all of this.
[18:11.000 --> 18:17.000]  This truly is a convergence of a lot of these different evil streams that have been out there.
[18:17.000 --> 18:19.000]  They're all related to each other.
[18:19.000 --> 18:21.000]  When you look at what is happening,
[18:21.000 --> 18:27.000]  we've been sold a mythology through Hollywood for quite some time about UFOs
[18:27.000 --> 18:32.000]  to try to put it into a scientific approach, a scientific and mathematical approach,
[18:32.000 --> 18:37.000]  and what it is is a rebranding of an ancient truth,
[18:37.000 --> 18:40.000]  because the ancient truth has to be kept from us.
[18:40.000 --> 18:45.000]  As I talked about yesterday, there was one scientist who was a secularist and atheist.
[18:45.000 --> 18:47.000]  He did an investigation of it, and he said,
[18:47.000 --> 18:52.000]  well, they're not behaving as if they were aliens from another planet.
[18:52.000 --> 18:57.000]  They're tricksters, and they're deceptive, and there's religious aspects of it as well.
[18:57.000 --> 19:01.000]  But again, going back to the CIA, the study should include chemicals, they said,
[19:01.000 --> 19:06.000]  or drugs that can effectively be concealed in common items such as food, water,
[19:06.000 --> 19:09.000]  Coca-Cola, beer, liquor, cigarettes, et cetera.
[19:09.000 --> 19:16.000]  This type of drug should be capable of use in standard medical treatments like vaccinations, shots, et cetera.
[19:16.000 --> 19:20.000]  And so they experimented on people as part of Project Artichoke.
[19:20.000 --> 19:27.000]  They included also mushrooms in this that produce a certain type of intoxication, mental derangement.
[19:27.000 --> 19:32.000]  And of course, LSD was a synthetic that was created by them, popularized by them.
[19:33.000 --> 19:40.000]  And then as they're pushing these drugs like LSD and Ken Kesey and his merry band of pranksters,
[19:40.000 --> 19:45.000]  they then said, well, that's so dangerous, we need to have drug prohibition.
[19:45.000 --> 19:47.000]  That was the beginning of the drug war.
[19:47.000 --> 19:50.000]  And of course, who is pushing the drugs the most? It's the CIA.
[19:50.000 --> 19:54.000]  Again, this is all a convergence of all these different elements coming together.
[19:54.000 --> 20:00.000]  So I think disclosure will be something that they can use as a deceptive method
[20:00.000 --> 20:05.000]  to distract people from what is really happening, as well as the other things that they wish to do.
[20:05.000 --> 20:12.000]  According to Ben Tapper, a Nebraska chiropractor who is included in the Disinformation Dozen in 2021 for questioning vaccine safety,
[20:12.000 --> 20:19.000]  he said, a disturbing reality that government agencies have historically explored ways to manipulate human behavior
[20:19.000 --> 20:26.000]  through chemical and biological means, including concepts involving food and medical interventions.
[20:26.000 --> 20:29.000]  This is not speculation. It's not conspiracy.
[20:29.000 --> 20:36.000]  And it should deeply concern every American who values bodily autonomy and informed consent.
[20:36.000 --> 20:46.000]  So again, Project Artichoke grew into and became MKUltra, which has been exposed before.
[20:46.000 --> 20:53.000]  But Naomi Wolf, who has written about Pfizer and Pfizer's crimes against humanity, that's the name of her book,
[20:53.000 --> 20:59.000]  the documents further confirm a long history of intelligence agencies' research targeting human thought and behavior.
[20:59.000 --> 21:08.000]  As I've said for the longest time, we make a big mistake when we don't understand how powerful their technology is
[21:08.000 --> 21:13.000]  and that there are no limits on what they are morally capable of either.
[21:13.000 --> 21:18.000]  Certainly, when we look at the history of the CIA, it comes up over and over again.
[21:18.000 --> 21:25.000]  She said, researchers have long suspected the church committee's revelation that the CIA's notorious MKUltra mind control experiments,
[21:25.000 --> 21:33.000]  mostly using LSD, had the effect of obscuring the agency's much larger Project Artichoke.
[21:33.000 --> 21:38.000]  And so this is all when you look at the disclosure talk that is coming out there.
[21:38.000 --> 21:44.000]  Just understand that you need to have some discernment. You need to have a frame of reference.
[21:44.000 --> 21:50.000]  Are you going to base this on some papers from the Pentagon and from the CIA, people who work for them?
[21:50.000 --> 21:53.000]  Is that going to be your frame of reference for the truth?
[21:53.000 --> 21:57.000]  Or are you going to rest it on the scriptures, on the Bible?
[21:57.000 --> 22:04.000]  That's the key for you to get through this, to understand what is true and where you stand on this,
[22:04.000 --> 22:06.000]  because a lot of these things are coming through.
[22:06.000 --> 22:12.000]  As I pointed out, last year I was a pharmaceutical research and development executive talking about this.
[22:12.000 --> 22:17.000]  And of course, Sasha Latopova, I'm sure you know of her, and Debbie Lerman,
[22:17.000 --> 22:24.000]  released the COVID dossier presenting evidence that the military industrial coordination of the COVID response
[22:24.000 --> 22:32.000]  was not a public health event, but a global operation coordinated through public private intelligence
[22:32.000 --> 22:40.000]  and military alliances involving laws designed for chemical, biological, radiological, and nuclear weapon attacks.
[22:40.000 --> 22:43.000]  And of course, it was also a SIOP.
[22:43.000 --> 22:48.000]  And we know that these are the germ games that they practiced for 20 years, the first one being Dark Winter.
[22:48.000 --> 22:55.000]  And that was an alliance of these public health agencies, the corporations, as well as the intelligence agencies.
[22:55.000 --> 23:01.000]  And they practiced and rehearsed this stuff for 20 years before they unleashed it on us.
[23:01.000 --> 23:03.000]  The entire thing was a SIOP.
[23:03.000 --> 23:08.000]  And of course, Yale, the only studies that were really done in terms of the COVID stuff,
[23:08.000 --> 23:15.000]  they didn't do any studies to determine the safety or the efficacy of any vaccines or any of the rest of that stuff.
[23:15.000 --> 23:22.000]  The studies that they did were how they were going to manipulate people and trick people into taking these vaccines
[23:22.000 --> 23:28.000]  when there wasn't going to be any safety or efficacy that was determined with any of this.
[23:28.000 --> 23:32.000]  They would skip all the testing except for the psychological operation.
[23:32.000 --> 23:35.000]  That was very heavily tested.
[23:35.000 --> 23:37.000]  Well, we're going to take a quick break here.
[23:37.000 --> 23:38.000]  And we're going to come back.
[23:38.000 --> 23:43.000]  And I've got the interview with the cancer survivor over half a century.
[23:43.000 --> 23:44.000]  And he's doing great.
[23:44.000 --> 23:46.000]  He's probably in better health than I am.
[23:46.000 --> 23:51.000]  And what he had to say about what worked for him and what continued to work for him.
[23:51.000 --> 23:52.000]  And I think it's very important.
[23:52.000 --> 23:56.000]  I just saw an article from retired Senator Ben Sasse.
[23:56.000 --> 23:57.000]  He has terminal cancer.
[23:57.000 --> 23:59.000]  He's got tumors all over his body.
[23:59.000 --> 24:04.000]  And he says there's nothing else that can be done.
[24:04.000 --> 24:05.000]  And he's basically given up.
[24:05.000 --> 24:06.000]  But he did have an interesting quote.
[24:06.000 --> 24:12.000]  He said, I remember when Tim Keller died, Tim Keller, a Christian pastor and teacher.
[24:12.000 --> 24:18.000]  He said, Tim Keller, when he had the same type of cancer that Ben Sasse had, he said,
[24:18.000 --> 24:20.000]  there's a lot of things that I regret.
[24:20.000 --> 24:28.000]  But he says, one thing that I would not give up is I would never want to go back to the prayer life that I had before I had cancer.
[24:28.000 --> 24:33.000]  And so Ben Sasse said, I didn't understand that at the time, but I understand it now.
[24:33.000 --> 24:34.000]  Well, that is an important thing.
[24:34.000 --> 24:43.000]  But it's also important for us to know that there are things out there that apparently for some people, certainly at least for our guests,
[24:43.000 --> 24:47.000]  work far better than any of the standard cancer treatments.
[24:47.000 --> 24:55.000]  And then after his interview, we're going to have an interview with someone who is going to talk about how real estate is being changed,
[24:55.000 --> 24:59.000]  the buying and selling of real estate, how technology is impinging on that.
[24:59.000 --> 25:02.000]  Everything is being rapidly changed by technology.
[25:02.000 --> 25:04.000]  And that's one of the things.
[25:04.000 --> 25:08.000]  And he has an international brokerage firm.
[25:08.000 --> 25:12.000]  And he's going to talk a little bit about what the real estate picture looks like internationally.
[25:12.000 --> 25:16.000]  Curiously enough, he's based out of Venezuela.
[25:16.000 --> 25:25.000]  And he finds these depressed areas, you know, like somebody might go into Detroit and look for a bargain there and hope that it's going to turn around.
[25:25.000 --> 25:29.000]  He thinks that Venezuela is at rock bottom and it's going to turn around.
[25:29.000 --> 25:31.000]  So he thinks it's a big business opportunity.
[25:31.000 --> 25:33.000]  But he also helps people.
[25:33.000 --> 25:40.000]  A lot of them may be here because they come from another country and they're thinking as they retire, they're going to go back to their home country.
[25:40.000 --> 25:42.000]  It could be Ireland.
[25:42.000 --> 25:43.000]  It could be Greece.
[25:43.000 --> 25:44.000]  It could be Mexico or whatever.
[25:44.000 --> 25:47.000]  And a lot of people looking to save money as they retire.
[25:47.000 --> 25:50.000]  So he's got a business that helps people do that.
[25:50.000 --> 25:52.000]  So I think you'll find that interesting as well.
[25:52.000 --> 25:56.000]  We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back with the Cancer Survivor.
[26:22.000 --> 26:24.000]  Thank you.
[26:52.000 --> 26:54.000]  Thank you.
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[29:36.000 --> 29:38.000]  Well, joining us now is Rick Hill.
[29:38.000 --> 29:42.000]  He's an ambassador for Oasis of Hope Hospital.
[29:42.000 --> 29:46.000]  He's also most importantly a cancer survivor and he's written about that.
[29:46.000 --> 29:53.000]  He had cancer 52 years ago and he found something that's very effective.
[29:53.000 --> 29:58.000]  So we want to find out a little bit about his story because we're seeing an uptick in cancer,
[29:58.000 --> 30:00.000]  not only that, but in turbo cancer.
[30:00.000 --> 30:06.000]  We've got just this last week or so we now have the Trump administration pushing for glyphosate,
[30:06.000 --> 30:10.000]  compelling its production and offering legal immunity for that.
[30:10.000 --> 30:14.000]  So what can we do as individuals to protect ourselves from cancer?
[30:14.000 --> 30:16.000]  So we wanted to talk to Rick Hill about that.
[30:16.000 --> 30:18.000]  Thank you for joining us, sir.
[30:18.000 --> 30:20.000]  Oh, you're welcome. Looking forward to this.
[30:20.000 --> 30:22.000]  And you're quite right.
[30:22.000 --> 30:27.000]  You know, most of what has happened in this administration has been good.
[30:27.000 --> 30:36.000]  But man, he's got to backtrack on this because we MAGA supporters, or me, I should say, don't like this.
[30:36.000 --> 30:39.000]  And I'm going to be vocal about it.
[30:39.000 --> 30:42.000]  Yeah, glyphosate is not good for us.
[30:42.000 --> 30:48.000]  And they gave him a million dollars toward his campaign last year.
[30:48.000 --> 30:51.000]  And I just, I think that's caving in.
[30:51.000 --> 30:52.000]  No, yeah.
[30:52.000 --> 30:54.000]  That seems to be the magic number.
[30:54.000 --> 30:55.000]  Yeah.
[30:55.000 --> 30:57.000]  A million dollars.
[30:57.000 --> 31:02.000]  They always seem to be able to get at least a thousand times return on their investment.
[31:02.000 --> 31:07.000]  You just give somebody thousands of dollars, you get millions or billions of dollars.
[31:07.000 --> 31:08.000]  Millions of dollars.
[31:08.000 --> 31:12.000]  You know, in this particular case, they got a lot more than millions of dollars.
[31:12.000 --> 31:16.000]  But anyway, yeah, let's talk a little bit about your story.
[31:16.000 --> 31:22.000]  And then we'll talk about the pushback from the cancer industry as to what you're saying.
[31:22.000 --> 31:24.000]  And I think we have seen all that.
[31:24.000 --> 31:33.000]  This is an opportunity, I think, that they handed us because people have been trying to talk about alternative medicine and say, why can't we try this or try that?
[31:33.000 --> 31:35.000]  We saw that all shut down during the pandemic.
[31:35.000 --> 31:37.000]  They said, well, here's this terrible pandemic.
[31:37.000 --> 31:40.000]  It's the worst thing we've ever seen in an industry.
[31:40.000 --> 31:42.000]  And yet we're not going to let you try anything.
[31:42.000 --> 31:49.000]  You're going to sit there locked down until we've got our our solution is delivered to you.
[31:49.000 --> 31:51.000]  And then we'll compel you to take that.
[31:51.000 --> 31:52.000]  And I think that woke a lot of people up.
[31:52.000 --> 31:56.000]  I mean, if that doesn't wake you up, what will you write?
[31:56.000 --> 31:58.000]  Yeah, it was a frightening time.
[31:58.000 --> 32:09.000]  I mean, golly, I didn't survive the Mayo Clinic and then my flight to Florida to Tijuana to be taken out by a vaccine.
[32:09.000 --> 32:12.000]  Yeah, I didn't get it.
[32:12.000 --> 32:13.000]  I refused it.
[32:13.000 --> 32:14.000]  Good.
[32:14.000 --> 32:16.000]  And, you know, I just said Thanksgiving.
[32:16.000 --> 32:20.000]  There are things we didn't talk about with our family.
[32:20.000 --> 32:21.000]  And that was one of them.
[32:21.000 --> 32:22.000]  Yeah.
[32:22.000 --> 32:23.000]  Well, a lot of people are taken in by it.
[32:23.000 --> 32:25.000]  A lot of people, unfortunately, have been taken out by it.
[32:25.000 --> 32:28.000]  But let's talk about cancer and tell us your story.
[32:28.000 --> 32:31.000]  You were diagnosed in 1974.
[32:31.000 --> 32:33.000]  What kind of cancer did you have?
[32:33.000 --> 32:39.000]  The technical term, Travis, is embryonal cell carcinoma.
[32:39.000 --> 32:45.000]  And that is a germ cancer, meaning I probably had it from birth.
[32:45.000 --> 32:53.000]  And I was 24 when I was diagnosed and they did eight and a half hours of exploratory surgery.
[32:53.000 --> 32:54.000]  Remember?
[32:54.000 --> 32:55.000]  Wow.
[32:55.000 --> 32:56.000]  They didn't have scans way back then.
[32:56.000 --> 32:57.000]  Wow.
[32:57.000 --> 33:04.000]  And so they operated up here in my clavicle and found in the lymphatic system of cancer.
[33:04.000 --> 33:07.000]  And the lymphatic system is like a superhighway.
[33:07.000 --> 33:15.000]  Once you get it in there, man, especially if it's high grade, embryonal cell carcinoma, that's like stage four.
[33:15.000 --> 33:22.000]  And in the system like that, it runs like a racehorse.
[33:22.000 --> 33:27.000]  And they operate on my feet, they found it, head to toe.
[33:27.000 --> 33:28.000]  Wow.
[33:28.000 --> 33:32.000]  Stowed me back up and said, invite your family in.
[33:32.000 --> 33:34.000]  You are in trouble.
[33:34.000 --> 33:35.000]  Wow.
[33:35.000 --> 33:40.000]  So my family flew into town and I was scheduled to have chemo.
[33:40.000 --> 33:45.000]  And here's where the story really gets interesting.
[33:45.000 --> 33:54.000]  Imagine a guy down to 120 pounds on morphine scheduled for chemotherapy on Monday.
[33:54.000 --> 33:56.000]  It's now Friday.
[33:56.000 --> 33:58.000]  And I get a letter in the mail.
[33:58.000 --> 34:05.000]  I open it, says, dear Rick, if you want to live, you're going to have to leave the Mayo Clinic.
[34:05.000 --> 34:06.000]  Wow.
[34:06.000 --> 34:10.000]  So I knew this guy, he's a Baptist pastor.
[34:10.000 --> 34:22.000]  And I called him up and I said, you know, whatever you're smoking, send me some because I'm about a week away from meeting our creator.
[34:22.000 --> 34:23.000]  And he said, well, I know that.
[34:23.000 --> 34:24.000]  That's why I wrote you.
[34:24.000 --> 34:26.000]  I said, well, John, what are you?
[34:26.000 --> 34:28.000]  Not John Richardson.
[34:28.000 --> 34:30.000]  His name was John Ballantine.
[34:30.000 --> 34:32.000]  I said, John, what are you thinking?
[34:32.000 --> 34:34.000]  Why would I leave the Mayo Clinic?
[34:34.000 --> 34:36.000]  It's a citadel of modern medicine.
[34:36.000 --> 34:41.000]  He said, I agree with that, but I don't think it's medicine you need.
[34:41.000 --> 34:43.000]  And I said, well, what do you think I need?
[34:43.000 --> 34:46.000]  He said, are you sitting down?
[34:46.000 --> 34:49.000]  The story was so bizarre.
[34:49.000 --> 34:53.000]  He said, you're going to have to leave and go to Tijuana.
[34:53.000 --> 35:01.000]  And there they're going to take a derivative of the apricot fruit and inject it in your veins.
[35:01.000 --> 35:09.000]  I said, that's the story you want me to give my family that have flown in to say goodbye, that I'm leaving the Mayo Clinic.
[35:09.000 --> 35:15.000]  I've got good insurance and I'm going to go to TJ for apricot.
[35:15.000 --> 35:18.000]  And he said, I know it doesn't sound good, does it?
[35:18.000 --> 35:20.000]  He said, no.
[35:20.000 --> 35:23.000]  And I said, look, John, I'm not going to argue with you.
[35:23.000 --> 35:27.000]  I have an appointment with my chemotherapist in about an hour.
[35:27.000 --> 35:31.000]  I'm going to drive over there and I'm going to tell him what you told me.
[35:31.000 --> 35:33.000]  I'm telling you.
[35:33.000 --> 35:35.000]  And he said, good luck with that, pal.
[35:35.000 --> 35:36.000]  So I did.
[35:36.000 --> 35:37.000]  I got my car.
[35:37.000 --> 35:39.000]  I drove over there, sat down, told him the story.
[35:39.000 --> 35:43.000]  I just told your viewers.
[35:43.000 --> 35:46.000]  And I thought I was going to learn new swear words.
[35:46.000 --> 35:50.000]  I thought this chemotherapist was, you little pipsqueak.
[35:51.000 --> 36:05.000]  And instead he folded his arms, sat back in his chair and he says to me, you know, Rick, it is warm in Tijuana this time of year.
[36:05.000 --> 36:11.000]  And I thought, did I hear what I just heard?
[36:11.000 --> 36:15.000]  You know, he's not going to jeopardize his 300k job a year.
[36:15.000 --> 36:16.000]  Oh, yeah.
[36:16.000 --> 36:20.000]  I stood up and I said, message delivered.
[36:20.000 --> 36:23.000]  I appreciate your honesty.
[36:23.000 --> 36:30.000]  And I walked to the door, put my hand on the handle, turned and said, I probably will never see you again.
[36:30.000 --> 36:33.000]  And he smiled and I left.
[36:33.000 --> 36:36.000]  Two days later, I'm in TJ.
[36:36.000 --> 36:39.000]  And that was like going down the rabbit hole.
[36:39.000 --> 36:41.000]  I mean, I grew up.
[36:41.000 --> 36:43.000]  I grew up a Detroit greaser.
[36:43.000 --> 36:44.000]  You know what a greaser is?
[36:44.000 --> 36:45.000]  Like Fonzie.
[36:45.000 --> 36:46.000]  Oh, yeah.
[36:46.000 --> 36:49.000]  That is what I look like in 1974.
[36:49.000 --> 36:56.000]  I'm a little messed up there, but that's after 10 hours of being under surgery.
[36:56.000 --> 37:05.000]  And if there was a health food store in Detroit, I'd never been to it and didn't know where it was.
[37:05.000 --> 37:07.000]  And I wouldn't have.
[37:07.000 --> 37:10.000]  I mean, my mother grew up in Alabama.
[37:10.000 --> 37:21.000]  I grew up on soul food, which is fried pork, country gravy on everything, you know, all the sweets you could eat.
[37:21.000 --> 37:24.000]  And we just weren't that family.
[37:24.000 --> 37:25.000]  We weren't.
[37:25.000 --> 37:36.000]  And here I am in a health food store now in San Diego, trying to find something I can eat because they told me no more bad food, no more sugar.
[37:36.000 --> 37:41.000]  And I felt like I was Ravi Shanker music playing in the background.
[37:41.000 --> 37:44.000]  I'm the only one in the store wearing underwear.
[37:44.000 --> 37:49.000]  I mean, this stone ground heaven for these people.
[37:49.000 --> 37:52.000]  And I'm thinking I don't blend.
[37:52.000 --> 37:53.000]  You know what?
[37:53.000 --> 37:55.000]  I want to make a point here.
[37:55.000 --> 38:00.000]  Your viewers don't have to blend for this to work.
[38:00.000 --> 38:04.000]  Yeah, they have to be willing to alter their life.
[38:04.000 --> 38:14.000]  But they don't have to be, you know, a 1970s what I would and I'm not trying to offend anybody hippie to make this work.
[38:14.000 --> 38:15.000]  I'm a greaser.
[38:15.000 --> 38:18.000]  I'm wearing a long leather jacket.
[38:22.000 --> 38:25.000]  You know, and I thought I just don't blend.
[38:25.000 --> 38:26.000]  But when I met Dr.
[38:26.000 --> 38:31.000]  Contreras Senior, he said to me a very important statement.
[38:31.000 --> 38:35.000]  He said, Rick, this is participatory medicine.
[38:35.000 --> 38:41.000]  If you don't help us, we will fail and you will die.
[38:41.000 --> 38:45.000]  You're a sick puppy and I need your help.
[38:45.000 --> 38:47.000]  I said, what do you want me to do, Doc?
[38:47.000 --> 38:50.000]  He said everything we ask you to do.
[38:50.000 --> 38:53.000]  I want you to be willing to do it.
[38:53.000 --> 38:57.000]  And I just had no idea what that entailed.
[38:58.000 --> 39:04.000]  First day I'm in there, they come in and they give me the lateral, you know, shots right here in the arm.
[39:04.000 --> 39:12.000]  And that's that vitamin B 17 amygdalin, a derivative of the apricot, six grams.
[39:12.000 --> 39:14.000]  You know, that's a big shot.
[39:14.000 --> 39:21.000]  And then they gave me a whole bunch of pancreatic enzymes.
[39:21.000 --> 39:25.000]  Nothing like that had ever been in this body.
[39:25.000 --> 39:27.000]  Either one.
[39:27.000 --> 39:33.000]  And then she comes in carrying a bag and the nurse is trying to be cheery.
[39:33.000 --> 39:39.000]  And she says, today we are going to start your detox program.
[39:39.000 --> 39:41.000]  I said, great.
[39:41.000 --> 39:43.000]  What's a detox?
[39:43.000 --> 39:47.000]  And she says, well, have you ever changed the water in the radiator of your car?
[39:47.000 --> 39:48.000]  I said, of course.
[39:48.000 --> 39:50.000]  She says, how did you do it?
[39:50.000 --> 39:52.000]  I said, well, you know, you undo the deals.
[39:52.000 --> 39:53.000]  You get the garden hose.
[39:53.000 --> 39:59.000]  And then when it runs clear, you take the hose out, cap it up, lay rubber out of the parking lot.
[39:59.000 --> 40:05.000]  I had a 57 Ford slick tires, first floor shift, handling life.
[40:05.000 --> 40:14.000]  OK, I look at her and I say, that thing you're carrying, where does that hose go?
[40:15.000 --> 40:25.000]  And she says, well, and for your listeners that don't know what a colonic is,
[40:25.000 --> 40:31.000]  picture yourself water skiing really fast and then just sit down.
[40:31.000 --> 40:35.000]  OK, I know what a colonic is.
[40:35.000 --> 40:39.000]  And I didn't tell any of my friends about this.
[40:39.000 --> 40:42.000]  I didn't even tell my family what I was doing.
[40:42.000 --> 40:44.000]  But here's the thing.
[40:44.000 --> 40:47.000]  I was only there three weeks.
[40:47.000 --> 40:51.000]  And after three weeks, my color came back.
[40:51.000 --> 40:54.000]  My appetite came back.
[40:54.000 --> 40:56.000]  I wasn't cured.
[40:56.000 --> 40:58.000]  I don't think anybody's cured.
[40:58.000 --> 41:04.000]  You can bring that stuff back in a heartbeat if you go back to doing what you were doing before you got sick.
[41:04.000 --> 41:09.000]  And three weeks, I'm out of there.
[41:09.000 --> 41:14.000]  And a lady that I know on my Facebook site was there when I was there.
[41:14.000 --> 41:20.000]  Glioblastoma, brain cancer, spread to her spine, couldn't walk.
[41:20.000 --> 41:26.000]  Three weeks later, Travis, both of us walked out of that clinic.
[41:26.000 --> 41:28.000]  And she contacts.
[41:28.000 --> 41:37.000]  I saw her two days ago on my Facebook site, living in Key West, 20 or 30 grandkids, too much sun.
[41:37.000 --> 41:40.000]  I'm not a one-off deal.
[41:40.000 --> 41:42.000]  Not a one-off deal.
[41:42.000 --> 41:45.000]  There are hundreds of thousands of us out there.
[41:45.000 --> 41:48.000]  But I'm one of the few vocal ones.
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[43:48.000 --> 43:53.000]  Because our government, and this is kind of what I want to focus on if you're agreeable,
[43:53.000 --> 43:58.000]  our government drove it underground.
[43:58.000 --> 44:06.000]  In fact, the book that I wrote, Too Young to Die, I mean, I had to be careful where I sold that.
[44:06.000 --> 44:12.000]  I've got a little thing here that when I would go to a town and speak,
[44:12.000 --> 44:17.000]  that town would put a little thing in the newspaper saying I was coming.
[44:17.000 --> 44:23.000]  And then after I had spoken, they put another article in the paper saying here's what he said.
[44:23.000 --> 44:35.000]  The American Cancer Society used to put an alternate position right across from my article that said,
[44:35.000 --> 44:41.000]  as for the testimony offered, it may be that he never had cancer in the first place.
[44:41.000 --> 44:42.000]  Yeah, I saw that.
[44:42.000 --> 44:43.000]  They denied it.
[44:43.000 --> 44:51.000]  So after about the third article, I clipped them, sent them to the Mayo Clinic and said you have misdiagnosed me.
[44:51.000 --> 44:57.000]  The American Cancer Society says that I never had it in the first place.
[44:57.000 --> 44:59.000]  So what did you do that surgery for?
[44:59.000 --> 45:01.000]  I'm getting an attorney.
[45:01.000 --> 45:08.000]  I got this letter back overnight from the Mayo Clinic in regard to your question that people have asked,
[45:08.000 --> 45:12.000]  questioning as to whether or not you actually did have cancer in the first place.
[45:12.000 --> 45:21.000]  You are entirely right that you had stage three high grade embryonal cell carcinoma
[45:21.000 --> 45:26.000]  and that chemotherapy was mandatory when I up and left.
[45:26.000 --> 45:27.000]  Wow.
[45:27.000 --> 45:31.000]  And the letter that you sent me was from the doctor that diagnosed it.
[45:31.000 --> 45:33.000]  He said, I'm glad that you're feeling well.
[45:33.000 --> 45:35.000]  But he goes, you know, we did this.
[45:35.000 --> 45:36.000]  We found the tumor.
[45:36.000 --> 45:37.000]  He talked about all the different aspects.
[45:37.000 --> 45:40.000]  So what were the symptoms that you had with that cancer?
[45:40.000 --> 45:41.000]  Well, I had a tumor.
[45:41.000 --> 45:42.000]  It was in the groin.
[45:42.000 --> 45:45.000]  So I didn't do a lot of horseback riding back then.
[45:45.000 --> 45:53.000]  And then I started not feeling well, achy, bad mood.
[45:53.000 --> 45:57.000]  And I was a parochial school principal at the time.
[45:57.000 --> 46:00.000]  I had to go to seminary to do that.
[46:00.000 --> 46:03.000]  And I thought, golly, I work for God.
[46:03.000 --> 46:04.000]  What is this about?
[46:04.000 --> 46:06.000]  What do you mean terminal?
[46:06.000 --> 46:08.000]  Why would you use that term with me?
[46:08.000 --> 46:11.000]  And it's discouraging.
[46:11.000 --> 46:13.000]  That's what I want people to know.
[46:13.000 --> 46:19.000]  That if they're dealing with this and they're discouraged, I'm on your team.
[46:19.000 --> 46:26.000]  Because I know what it is to believe that I may not have any hope left in this life.
[46:26.000 --> 46:33.000]  And I define hope as that my calling now is helping other people escape.
[46:33.000 --> 46:41.000]  H-O-P-E because I think for most people, not everybody, but for most people,
[46:41.000 --> 46:45.000]  if the disease didn't kill them, the chemo will.
[46:45.000 --> 46:46.000]  Yeah, yeah, I agree.
[46:46.000 --> 46:49.000]  If the disease didn't kill them, the radiation will.
[46:49.000 --> 46:57.000]  And I'm looking you in the eye, Travis, and I'm saying I took massive amounts of
[46:58.000 --> 47:02.000]  And that pancreatic enzymes and everything else.
[47:02.000 --> 47:06.000]  I never even got a headache.
[47:06.000 --> 47:08.000]  My hair didn't fall out now today.
[47:08.000 --> 47:10.000]  It's fallen out.
[47:10.000 --> 47:12.000]  But I'm 74 years old.
[47:12.000 --> 47:14.000]  Okay, let's talk.
[47:14.000 --> 47:16.000]  But not then.
[47:16.000 --> 47:17.000]  I didn't have a fever.
[47:17.000 --> 47:18.000]  I didn't throw up.
[47:18.000 --> 47:21.000]  I wasn't running to the bathroom.
[47:21.000 --> 47:23.000]  People would say.
[47:23.000 --> 47:24.000]  I'm sympathetic with that.
[47:24.000 --> 47:27.000]  My father died from chemotherapy.
[47:27.000 --> 47:31.000]  The very first time they gave him chemotherapy, he went into a coma and he never came out of it.
[47:31.000 --> 47:39.000]  So the stuff that they give people, I was open to this from the very beginning.
[47:39.000 --> 47:43.000]  But like I said, I think we've got an opening because of what people saw five years ago.
[47:43.000 --> 47:47.000]  And the fact that there was obviously a different agenda.
[47:47.000 --> 47:50.000]  One of the articles that you clipped and sent to me,
[47:50.000 --> 47:54.000]  It was a part of the rebuttal from the American Cancer Society.
[47:54.000 --> 47:58.000]  And they said, well, we just don't feel this has any benefit.
[47:58.000 --> 48:00.000]  Whoa, wait a minute.
[48:00.000 --> 48:01.000]  You don't feel that it has.
[48:01.000 --> 48:04.000]  There's nothing scientific or medical about this.
[48:04.000 --> 48:06.000]  You just don't feel that it has any benefit.
[48:06.000 --> 48:07.000]  And they keep on reading it.
[48:07.000 --> 48:12.000]  It says, well, to date, there haven't been any test results to show its effectiveness.
[48:12.000 --> 48:17.000]  It's like, well, then there haven't been any test results to show that it's not effective either, right?
[48:17.000 --> 48:18.000]  You haven't tested it.
[48:18.000 --> 48:21.000]  You just, this is not about medicine or science.
[48:21.000 --> 48:23.000]  It's about business, I think.
[48:23.000 --> 48:24.000]  Deny, deny, deny.
[48:24.000 --> 48:28.000]  Because, Travis, nobody kicks a dead dog.
[48:28.000 --> 48:36.000]  And nobody's throwing doctors in jail and terminating their license like they did John Richardson's father.
[48:36.000 --> 48:38.000]  Yeah, yeah.
[48:38.000 --> 48:46.000]  If they're prescribing ivermectin or finben or mistletoe or these other things that are out there.
[48:46.000 --> 48:47.000]  Why?
[48:47.000 --> 48:49.000]  Because they don't work as well.
[48:49.000 --> 48:53.000]  They work, they help, but they don't work as well as this does.
[48:53.000 --> 48:54.000]  Yeah, that's right.
[48:54.000 --> 49:05.000]  This was developed in 1902 by a Dr. John Beard in the book, World Without Cancer, Chapter Five.
[49:05.000 --> 49:16.000]  This guy had a whole bunch of stage four cancer people, gave them these pancreatic enzymes, chymotrypsin and trypsin.
[49:16.000 --> 49:18.000]  And they got well.
[49:18.000 --> 49:20.000]  And he published the results.
[49:20.000 --> 49:22.000]  They came after him.
[49:22.000 --> 49:25.000]  So, nobody kicks a dead dog.
[49:25.000 --> 49:31.000]  And even today, I went in to a very popular hospital chain just for my annual checkup.
[49:31.000 --> 49:33.000]  I'm not against medicine.
[49:33.000 --> 49:38.000]  I'm not against all doctors and everything, but...
[49:38.000 --> 49:39.000]  Let the buyer beware.
[49:39.000 --> 49:40.000]  That's the whole thing.
[49:40.000 --> 49:41.000]  You should be skeptical about it.
[49:41.000 --> 49:43.000]  Just not blindly trust this stuff.
[49:43.000 --> 49:45.000]  And that's what a lot of people do.
[49:45.000 --> 49:46.000]  Yeah.
[49:46.000 --> 49:50.000]  And I had to get another doctor because he found out that I went to Tijuana.
[49:50.000 --> 49:51.000]  Really?
[49:51.000 --> 49:52.000]  You didn't want to treat you?
[49:52.000 --> 49:53.000]  Yeah.
[49:53.000 --> 49:56.000]  Some people think if they eat apricots, they're going to get well.
[49:56.000 --> 50:00.000]  And I said, Doc, I did that.
[50:00.000 --> 50:03.000]  And he looked at his file and he didn't have anything in there.
[50:03.000 --> 50:06.000]  And he said, we're done here.
[50:06.000 --> 50:10.000]  And he got up, left the office and slammed the door.
[50:10.000 --> 50:11.000]  Wow.
[50:11.000 --> 50:14.000]  51 years later, he's slamming the door in my face.
[50:14.000 --> 50:18.000]  I'm thinking these people hold on to grievances.
[50:18.000 --> 50:22.000]  You're thinking, go well, let's let bygones be bygones.
[50:22.000 --> 50:24.000]  You look pretty good now.
[50:24.000 --> 50:25.000]  Nope.
[50:25.000 --> 50:26.000]  Yeah.
[50:26.000 --> 50:29.000]  They're not interested in the actual results there.
[50:29.000 --> 50:33.000]  They've got their paradigm and their business that they want to push forward.
[50:33.000 --> 50:34.000]  And that's the key thing.
[50:34.000 --> 50:36.000]  Well, I certainly know what that is like.
[50:36.000 --> 50:38.000]  And of course my audience knows that as well.
[50:38.000 --> 50:43.000]  I've been banned on PayPal and Venmo and YouTube and Facebook and on.
[50:43.000 --> 50:46.000]  And on and on and on because I'm not going to be quiet about it.
[50:46.000 --> 50:50.000]  And I appreciate you persisting in this as well, because it's very important.
[50:50.000 --> 50:56.000]  When you get something like this and you have to look at why these people are so hell bent,
[50:56.000 --> 51:01.000]  literally hell bent on trying to suppress this information that could help people
[51:01.000 --> 51:03.000]  and to push something on them that's going to harm them
[51:03.000 --> 51:06.000]  because they have some benefit somehow out of this.
[51:06.000 --> 51:07.000]  That is the amazing thing.
[51:07.000 --> 51:12.000]  But I really like your acronym of HOPE, helping other people escape.
[51:12.000 --> 51:15.000]  That's really the key thing, I think.
[51:15.000 --> 51:22.000]  Well, and I'd like to give your viewers a free book with no credit card, nobody calls.
[51:22.000 --> 51:32.000]  But if they will log on to myworldwithoutcancer.com, myworldwithoutcancer.com,
[51:32.000 --> 51:41.000]  I will send them a 300-page book which has, in Chapter 5, this Dr. Beard's research
[51:41.000 --> 51:46.000]  so that they can go, well, you know, I heard this weird story today on this program,
[51:46.000 --> 51:52.000]  but the guy sent me a free book, I read it, and it seems credible to me.
[51:52.000 --> 51:54.000]  And this is from 1902.
[51:54.000 --> 51:55.000]  Wow.
[51:55.000 --> 51:57.000]  All these years they've hidden this.
[51:57.000 --> 51:58.000]  Wow.
[51:58.000 --> 52:01.000]  And I just think that's criminal, just criminal.
[52:01.000 --> 52:06.000]  How come I couldn't use my insurance to get this treatment?
[52:06.000 --> 52:07.000]  Yeah.
[52:07.000 --> 52:10.000]  Why did I have to leave the country to do it?
[52:10.000 --> 52:11.000]  That's right.
[52:11.000 --> 52:15.000]  And why is it that doctors can't talk to patients about different alternatives?
[52:15.000 --> 52:20.000]  Why do I have to have politicians that are going to set in judgment
[52:20.000 --> 52:23.000]  what I'm allowed to use for my own health?
[52:23.000 --> 52:25.000]  That makes absolutely no sense.
[52:25.000 --> 52:27.000]  But that's where we are in this country, unfortunately.
[52:27.000 --> 52:32.000]  So they can get that free book, and then if they want my book for free,
[52:32.000 --> 52:40.000]  they can go on to b17works.com, and there's a little questionnaire to fill out,
[52:40.000 --> 52:44.000]  and if they want to talk to me, I'll give them a call back or I'll send them an email,
[52:44.000 --> 52:49.000]  but I'll also send them a PDF copy of my book, Too Young to Die.
[52:49.000 --> 52:54.000]  I'm not a scholar, I'm not a doctor, but it's a story of hope.
[52:54.000 --> 52:56.000]  Well, you know, I've talked to John Richards.
[52:56.000 --> 52:57.000]  And I'll give you the glory details.
[52:57.000 --> 53:01.000]  Yes, I've talked to John Richards several times, and I told him, I said,
[53:01.000 --> 53:03.000]  I don't discount anecdotal stories.
[53:03.000 --> 53:05.000]  I think they're very important.
[53:05.000 --> 53:08.000]  Because when you look at these studies that are orchestrated,
[53:08.000 --> 53:10.000]  I've reported on this over and over again,
[53:10.000 --> 53:12.000]  how you've got three different pharmaceutical companies,
[53:12.000 --> 53:18.000]  they've all got a drug that they want to use to sell you to treat a particular condition,
[53:18.000 --> 53:20.000]  and they all do their own studies.
[53:20.000 --> 53:21.000]  And guess what?
[53:21.000 --> 53:23.000]  The people that they hire to do the studies,
[53:23.000 --> 53:29.000]  if brand A hires the person to do the test, guess which brand is the best one?
[53:29.000 --> 53:30.000]  Brand A.
[53:30.000 --> 53:34.000]  And if brand B hires somebody else, it's going to be brand B is going to be the best one.
[53:34.000 --> 53:40.000]  And so I don't really have a lot of faith in a lot of these studies,
[53:40.000 --> 53:41.000]  because if you look at them,
[53:41.000 --> 53:44.000]  a lot of them have a conflict of interest in terms of who's paying for them.
[53:44.000 --> 53:49.000]  When as you look at somebody's particular anecdotal story like yours,
[53:49.000 --> 53:52.000]  your interest is just in trying to help other people
[53:52.000 --> 53:54.000]  and tell them where you found some help.
[53:54.000 --> 53:55.000]  And that's the key thing.
[53:55.000 --> 53:57.000]  Well, nobody sent me a million dollars last year.
[53:57.000 --> 53:58.000]  That's right.
[53:58.000 --> 54:02.000]  And I'm not for sale.
[54:02.000 --> 54:07.000]  And I've done without some things in order to do this.
[54:07.000 --> 54:09.000]  But I look at it this way.
[54:09.000 --> 54:17.000]  This Baptist pastor, right, 51 years ago, stuck his nose in my business.
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[55:47.000 --> 55:51.000]  And said, Rick, you're going to die if you keep doing what you're doing.
[55:51.000 --> 55:58.000]  And today I'm 74, a five, 75 now.
[55:58.000 --> 56:06.000]  And I don't have the problems that other people have.
[56:06.000 --> 56:08.000]  I just don't.
[56:08.000 --> 56:10.000]  I don't. Yeah.
[56:10.000 --> 56:12.000]  I see people in grocery stores.
[56:12.000 --> 56:16.000]  They're my age, hanging on the handle to get out of the store.
[56:16.000 --> 56:19.000]  Nothing but sugar in their cart.
[56:19.000 --> 56:20.000]  Yeah.
[56:20.000 --> 56:23.000]  And they're on eight or nine prescriptions.
[56:23.000 --> 56:24.000]  I'm not the other thing.
[56:24.000 --> 56:25.000]  Yeah.
[56:25.000 --> 56:26.000]  That's the other thing.
[56:26.000 --> 56:28.000]  They give you a prescription for one thing.
[56:28.000 --> 56:31.000]  And then that may actually exacerbate that condition,
[56:31.000 --> 56:34.000]  but then it creates some other side issues.
[56:34.000 --> 56:36.000]  And so you start taking some drugs for these other side issues.
[56:36.000 --> 56:38.000]  And now what's the interaction with all these drugs?
[56:38.000 --> 56:41.000]  Nobody tests that at all.
[56:41.000 --> 56:43.000]  Metformin is a gateway.
[56:43.000 --> 56:46.000]  And unfortunately in our society,
[56:46.000 --> 56:51.000]  about two thirds of the people you'll ever walk by are on metformin
[56:51.000 --> 56:54.000]  and glipizide and all these other things,
[56:54.000 --> 56:58.000]  because somebody convinced them that sugar is okay.
[56:58.000 --> 57:02.000]  In modest amounts, as long as it's in fruit,
[57:02.000 --> 57:05.000]  modest amounts, it is okay.
[57:05.000 --> 57:09.000]  But a Coca-Cola,
[57:09.000 --> 57:12.000]  nine tablespoons of sugar in that puppy.
[57:12.000 --> 57:15.000]  And then they go into the 7-Eleven and get a big gulp.
[57:15.000 --> 57:17.000]  The little one's not enough.
[57:17.000 --> 57:18.000]  Yeah.
[57:18.000 --> 57:20.000]  I want to die quickly.
[57:20.000 --> 57:23.000]  So I want to get a big gulp.
[57:23.000 --> 57:26.000]  We are, what a species we are.
[57:26.000 --> 57:28.000]  Yeah, it truly is amazing too,
[57:28.000 --> 57:32.000]  when you go back and look at pictures of just the general population
[57:32.000 --> 57:34.000]  in the 50s, 60s and 70s and so,
[57:34.000 --> 57:38.000]  and how thin everybody was and how heavy everybody is today.
[57:38.000 --> 57:40.000]  It's amazing for me to go back and look.
[57:40.000 --> 57:44.000]  I tried to go back to the high school that I attended
[57:44.000 --> 57:46.000]  and see what was happening to it,
[57:46.000 --> 57:49.000]  because there was a controversy about the mascot there.
[57:49.000 --> 57:52.000]  It was chiefs and they don't allow that anymore, right?
[57:52.000 --> 57:56.000]  And so I go back and look and the band that was there
[57:56.000 --> 57:58.000]  and the majorettes and cheerleaders and stuff,
[57:58.000 --> 58:01.000]  it's like, how did everybody get so fat?
[58:01.000 --> 58:02.000]  It's amazing.
[58:02.000 --> 58:04.000]  You look terrific.
[58:04.000 --> 58:07.000]  And yeah, you must have walked around thinking,
[58:07.000 --> 58:11.000]  now I'm the one that's not really fitting in.
[58:11.000 --> 58:13.000]  It is strange.
[58:13.000 --> 58:15.000]  Let me get rid of that.
[58:15.000 --> 58:17.000]  When I use my computer,
[58:17.000 --> 58:20.000]  even though I've got my phone off,
[58:20.000 --> 58:24.000]  my computer will say, take the call.
[58:24.000 --> 58:31.000]  Yeah, I don't understand why someone wouldn't at least
[58:31.000 --> 58:34.000]  sit down with me like a doctor,
[58:34.000 --> 58:37.000]  like the surgeon that did all of that,
[58:37.000 --> 58:43.000]  and say, hey, I don't agree with what you did,
[58:43.000 --> 58:45.000]  but I'm looking at it.
[58:45.000 --> 58:46.000]  I'm glad it worked.
[58:46.000 --> 58:48.000]  Tell me what you did.
[58:48.000 --> 58:50.000]  I'll take notes and I will look at it.
[58:50.000 --> 58:51.000]  That's right.
[58:51.000 --> 58:55.000]  They just say, no, I'm not interested in what you did.
[58:55.000 --> 58:57.000]  I don't understand that.
[58:57.000 --> 58:59.000]  Well, I've seen what you're talking about
[58:59.000 --> 59:01.000]  when it comes to pediatricians, right?
[59:01.000 --> 59:04.000]  Pediatricians have been put under economic pressure
[59:04.000 --> 59:06.000]  by the insurance companies that if they don't get
[59:06.000 --> 59:09.000]  a certain percentage of their kids vaccinated
[59:09.000 --> 59:11.000]  per the vaccine schedule,
[59:11.000 --> 59:14.000]  they get their insurance cut so drastically
[59:14.000 --> 59:15.000]  that it puts them out of business.
[59:15.000 --> 59:18.000]  And so these guys are really aggressive about it.
[59:18.000 --> 59:20.000]  I first saw that when our kids were young,
[59:20.000 --> 59:21.000]  about 30 years ago,
[59:21.000 --> 59:23.000]  aggressively pushing this vaccine stuff
[59:23.000 --> 59:27.000]  and trying to get us to put them on fluoride pills
[59:27.000 --> 59:29.000]  because we were on well water.
[59:29.000 --> 59:31.000]  This guy was adamant about all this stuff
[59:31.000 --> 59:32.000]  and I didn't argue with him.
[59:32.000 --> 59:34.000]  We just never went back.
[59:34.000 --> 59:39.000]  But it really is amazing how they have embraced this
[59:39.000 --> 59:42.000]  as their identity, as their profession.
[59:42.000 --> 59:45.000]  And they are as aggressive in terms of pushing this
[59:45.000 --> 59:49.000]  as the people who are directly making the product.
[59:49.000 --> 59:50.000]  Well, imagine John...
[59:50.000 --> 59:52.000]  I know you've interviewed John Richardson,
[59:52.000 --> 59:55.000]  but imagine what it was like growing up in that house.
[59:55.000 --> 59:57.000]  Your dad's a doctor.
[59:57.000 --> 59:59.000]  He's running for Congress.
[59:59.000 --> 01:00:03.000]  He's a very popular person in that community,
[01:00:03.000 --> 01:00:05.000]  Northern California.
[01:00:05.000 --> 01:00:07.000]  And all of a sudden,
[01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.000]  they come into his office with the guns out,
[01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.000]  arrest him and his nurse,
[01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:15.000]  throw him in jail,
[01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:18.000]  and then terminate his medical license
[01:00:18.000 --> 01:00:22.000]  for giving someone apricot derivatives.
[01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:25.000]  What is the matter with these people?
[01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:28.000]  You know, I mean, you'd think they'd go,
[01:00:28.000 --> 01:00:30.000]  you know, let's ignore them.
[01:00:30.000 --> 01:00:34.000]  I mean, if you want to think apricots cure people, fine.
[01:00:34.000 --> 01:00:37.000]  But no, they went to war.
[01:00:37.000 --> 01:00:39.000]  And the reason they went to war,
[01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:44.000]  they also went to war with a rife, royal rife.
[01:00:44.000 --> 01:00:47.000]  The same thing, the rife microscope,
[01:00:47.000 --> 01:00:49.000]  the way he...
[01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:52.000]  The San Diego Tribune wrote the article
[01:00:52.000 --> 01:00:55.000]  and said this guy took eight or nine patients
[01:00:55.000 --> 01:00:57.000]  with stage four cancer,
[01:00:57.000 --> 01:00:59.000]  and they don't have it anymore.
[01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.000]  What is Dr. Reif doing?
[01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:03.000]  They raided his office,
[01:01:03.000 --> 01:01:05.000]  took everything he had,
[01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:07.000]  terminated his medical license,
[01:01:07.000 --> 01:01:10.000]  and unfortunately he died an early death,
[01:01:10.000 --> 01:01:12.000]  probably due to alcohol,
[01:01:12.000 --> 01:01:14.000]  because they destroyed his life.
[01:01:14.000 --> 01:01:16.000]  Well, that is amazing.
[01:01:16.000 --> 01:01:19.000]  I don't get it. I just don't get it.
[01:01:19.000 --> 01:01:23.000]  I'm excited about you having this kind of information
[01:01:23.000 --> 01:01:25.000]  on your show,
[01:01:25.000 --> 01:01:29.000]  because you are part of the solution,
[01:01:29.000 --> 01:01:30.000]  not the problem.
[01:01:30.000 --> 01:01:31.000]  Well, thank you.
[01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:33.000]  Yeah, we have to...
[01:01:33.000 --> 01:01:35.000]  I've just seen this in so many different ways.
[01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.000]  You know, the first time...
[01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:38.000]  Kind of interesting, you know,
[01:01:38.000 --> 01:01:39.000]  J. Edgar Griffin, you always think about him
[01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:40.000]  with the Federal Reserve.
[01:01:40.000 --> 01:01:42.000]  First time I was ever censored
[01:01:42.000 --> 01:01:44.000]  was because of a report that I did
[01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:46.000]  on the 100th anniversary of the Federal Reserve.
[01:01:46.000 --> 01:01:49.000]  They have these systems that are so vital
[01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:51.000]  that they will do anything to anybody
[01:01:51.000 --> 01:01:53.000]  who even criticizes or calls into question
[01:01:53.000 --> 01:01:55.000]  what these systems are.
[01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.000]  And it truly is amazing
[01:01:57.000 --> 01:01:59.000]  how vigorously they protect themselves
[01:01:59.000 --> 01:02:01.000]  with this kind of stuff.
[01:02:01.000 --> 01:02:04.000]  Well, I did an interview with Dr. Contreras Jr.,
[01:02:04.000 --> 01:02:06.000]  you know, Francisco.
[01:02:06.000 --> 01:02:09.000]  He's a surgical oncologist,
[01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:12.000]  speaks three or four languages fluently.
[01:02:12.000 --> 01:02:14.000]  This guy didn't fall off the truck yesterday.
[01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:18.000]  And they interviewed me, they interviewed him.
[01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:21.000]  We put it on Facebook, we put it on YouTube,
[01:02:21.000 --> 01:02:23.000]  and they took it down.
[01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:24.000]  Yeah.
[01:02:24.000 --> 01:02:27.000]  This guy said nothing acoustic,
[01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:29.000]  didn't make fun of anybody,
[01:02:29.000 --> 01:02:31.000]  nothing like that,
[01:02:31.000 --> 01:02:34.000]  and they just took it all down.
[01:02:34.000 --> 01:02:37.000]  This was recently, like a month ago.
[01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:38.000]  Wow.
[01:02:38.000 --> 01:02:41.000]  And he is a director and founder
[01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:43.000]  of the Oasis Hope Hospital,
[01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.000]  five-story hospital,
[01:02:45.000 --> 01:02:47.000]  two operatories,
[01:02:47.000 --> 01:02:49.000]  24-hour nursing,
[01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:51.000]  private rooms,
[01:02:51.000 --> 01:02:53.000]  and they took it down
[01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:55.000]  because I was on there?
[01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.000]  You know?
[01:02:57.000 --> 01:02:59.000]  It truly is amazing.
[01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:03.000]  And they do focus on individuals already.
[01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:05.000]  You know, everybody talks about
[01:03:05.000 --> 01:03:08.000]  how they're going to use surveillance and control
[01:03:08.000 --> 01:03:10.000]  to limit speech
[01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:13.000]  so people can say and post and all the rest of this stuff.
[01:03:13.000 --> 01:03:14.000]  It's already happening.
[01:03:14.000 --> 01:03:16.000]  It's been happening for quite some time.
[01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000]  I mean, after they took my stuff down on YouTube,
[01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:21.000]  I put up a Christmas music program,
[01:03:21.000 --> 01:03:23.000]  some Christmas music that I'd done on a channel
[01:03:23.000 --> 01:03:26.000]  about a year and a half after that,
[01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:30.000]  and they took that down after six months with no explanation.
[01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:33.000]  And so we put up a few things now on YouTube.
[01:03:33.000 --> 01:03:35.000]  I don't expect that to last very long.
[01:03:35.000 --> 01:03:39.000]  We have to very carefully edit it when we put it up,
[01:03:39.000 --> 01:03:41.000]  or we know that it'll all be taken down,
[01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.000]  but it's just kind of there as a pointer
[01:03:43.000 --> 01:03:44.000]  to the other stuff that we do.
[01:03:44.000 --> 01:03:46.000]  But that's where we live now,
[01:03:46.000 --> 01:03:47.000]  and it's only going to get worse
[01:03:47.000 --> 01:03:50.000]  because they're focusing so much
[01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:53.000]  on how they can identify people
[01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:57.000]  and turn using the Internet into a permission
[01:03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.000]  that is granted by them.
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[01:06:04.000 --> 01:06:07.000]  May I talk about that briefly?
[01:06:07.000 --> 01:06:10.000]  The things that I took are available,
[01:06:10.000 --> 01:06:12.000]  and they are legal,
[01:06:12.000 --> 01:06:15.000]  as long as they're purchased as food supplements.
[01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:17.000]  That's what we're saying today.
[01:06:17.000 --> 01:06:18.000]  Yeah.
[01:06:18.000 --> 01:06:22.000]  And if they log on to rncstore.com,
[01:06:23.000 --> 01:06:28.000]  rnc, like Rick, Nancy, Charlie, store.com,
[01:06:28.000 --> 01:06:31.000]  they can order anything that they, you know,
[01:06:31.000 --> 01:06:37.000]  the enzymes, the B-17, the B-15, anything they want.
[01:06:37.000 --> 01:06:44.000]  And if they put, I wrote it down, night, K-N-I-G-H-T,
[01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:46.000]  which I, yeah, that's your last name.
[01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:47.000]  Yeah.
[01:06:47.000 --> 01:06:49.000]  If they put that in at the end of the order,
[01:06:49.000 --> 01:06:51.000]  it'll say, do you have a discount code?
[01:06:51.000 --> 01:06:54.000]  I hate those because I never have one.
[01:06:54.000 --> 01:06:56.000]  Well, you got one now.
[01:06:56.000 --> 01:06:57.000]  I got one now.
[01:06:57.000 --> 01:07:00.000]  If they write night in there, they'll save 10%.
[01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:01.000]  I don't get it.
[01:07:01.000 --> 01:07:03.000]  You don't get that money.
[01:07:03.000 --> 01:07:05.000]  That's for your listeners.
[01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:06.000]  That's right.
[01:07:06.000 --> 01:07:08.000]  And your viewers, so they may not know this,
[01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:10.000]  but that's a great thing you did.
[01:07:10.000 --> 01:07:13.000]  And you may have to go to rumble with this
[01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:16.000]  because you got Ricky on here today,
[01:07:16.000 --> 01:07:17.000]  and they're after me.
[01:07:17.000 --> 01:07:18.000]  Well, that's where we are.
[01:07:18.000 --> 01:07:20.000]  We're on Rumble, Bitshoot, Odyssey.
[01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:22.000]  We're on those platforms.
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:23.000]  Of course, I'm still on Twitter,
[01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.000]  but I'm heavily shadow banned there,
[01:07:26.000 --> 01:07:28.000]  and we've verified that.
[01:07:28.000 --> 01:07:30.000]  But that's just the world that we live in.
[01:07:30.000 --> 01:07:32.000]  So we just accept that, and we move on,
[01:07:32.000 --> 01:07:34.000]  and we do the best that we can.
[01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:38.000]  But it truly is an amazing commentary on our government,
[01:07:38.000 --> 01:07:41.000]  to the extent that nothing that they do surprises me.
[01:07:41.000 --> 01:07:43.000]  If you're going to let people get cancer,
[01:07:43.000 --> 01:07:46.000]  and if you're going to pick their pockets
[01:07:46.000 --> 01:07:48.000]  as they're dying in agony,
[01:07:48.000 --> 01:07:51.000]  then I guess you could pretty much do anything, right?
[01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.000]  And there's nothing that's taken off the table.
[01:07:53.000 --> 01:07:59.000]  Oasis of Hope just developed an oral B17 liposomal.
[01:07:59.000 --> 01:08:00.000]  Oh.
[01:08:00.000 --> 01:08:02.000]  And compare this now.
[01:08:02.000 --> 01:08:05.000]  When I was at the Mayo Clinic,
[01:08:05.000 --> 01:08:07.000]  had I stayed and gotten the chemo and the radiation
[01:08:07.000 --> 01:08:10.000]  and what they wanted to do,
[01:08:10.000 --> 01:08:14.000]  500,000, 600,000,
[01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:18.000]  you can buy a bottle of this stuff for 300 bucks.
[01:08:18.000 --> 01:08:20.000]  And that's what's driving them crazy.
[01:08:20.000 --> 01:08:21.000]  Yeah.
[01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:26.000]  Because these integrative, alternative guys and women
[01:08:26.000 --> 01:08:28.000]  put their life on the line and say,
[01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:32.000]  you know, there's other ways to do this.
[01:08:32.000 --> 01:08:36.000]  And for a little bit of money.
[01:08:36.000 --> 01:08:38.000]  And that's what's cooking the deal.
[01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:41.000]  That's what's causing the war out in the streets.
[01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:42.000]  That's right.
[01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:44.000]  But I'm going to fight that war.
[01:08:44.000 --> 01:08:46.000]  I'm going to be vocal like you.
[01:08:46.000 --> 01:08:47.000]  Good.
[01:08:47.000 --> 01:08:49.000]  And I'm not going to get shoved around
[01:08:49.000 --> 01:08:56.000]  because somebody spoke up and saved my life 51 years ago.
[01:08:56.000 --> 01:08:57.000]  Yes.
[01:08:57.000 --> 01:08:59.000]  How dare I?
[01:08:59.000 --> 01:09:02.000]  If somebody says, Rick, you had cancer a long time ago.
[01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:03.000]  How'd you get well?
[01:09:03.000 --> 01:09:06.000]  Well, you know, I just took what they asked me to take.
[01:09:06.000 --> 01:09:09.000]  No, no, no, no, no, no.
[01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:10.000]  Yeah.
[01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:11.000]  Well, good for you.
[01:09:11.000 --> 01:09:12.000]  Yeah.
[01:09:12.000 --> 01:09:13.000]  And we know it's the money.
[01:09:13.000 --> 01:09:16.000]  You know that it's the love of money, as Jesus said,
[01:09:16.000 --> 01:09:18.000]  the root of all evil, right?
[01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.000]  And that really is what we see over and over again.
[01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:24.000]  There is so much money involved in that,
[01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:26.000]  that they will do very evil things to people.
[01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:28.000]  So I appreciate you putting that out there.
[01:09:28.000 --> 01:09:30.000]  People can educate themselves.
[01:09:30.000 --> 01:09:33.000]  Again, if you go to myworldwithoutcancer.com,
[01:09:33.000 --> 01:09:35.000]  there's a free book there.
[01:09:35.000 --> 01:09:37.000]  Download and they can find that.
[01:09:37.000 --> 01:09:39.000]  Is that where your book there is as well?
[01:09:39.000 --> 01:09:45.000]  My book is in there, but my book is either on rncstore.com
[01:09:45.000 --> 01:09:50.000]  or it's at b17works.com
[01:09:50.000 --> 01:09:53.000]  if they fill out that little one page questionnaire.
[01:09:53.000 --> 01:09:55.000]  And I'm HIPAA certified.
[01:09:55.000 --> 01:09:57.000]  No one's going to share anything.
[01:09:57.000 --> 01:09:58.000]  That's private.
[01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:02.000]  But I'll send them a copy of my book.
[01:10:02.000 --> 01:10:03.000]  And it's a fun book.
[01:10:03.000 --> 01:10:05.000]  I used to do stand-up comedy.
[01:10:05.000 --> 01:10:08.000]  And I don't know how funny cancer is,
[01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000]  but what they tried to do to me was funny.
[01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:11.000]  Yeah.
[01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:12.000]  And I'm not funny.
[01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:13.000]  Haha.
[01:10:13.000 --> 01:10:14.000]  Funny odd.
[01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:16.000]  But yeah, they can get all that.
[01:10:16.000 --> 01:10:19.000]  Even Amazon carries my book.
[01:10:19.000 --> 01:10:24.000]  So we've got a few people that are still willing to be OK.
[01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:27.000]  But yeah, I'm feeling fine.
[01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:29.000]  I'm 150 pounds.
[01:10:29.000 --> 01:10:31.000]  I'm 5'9".
[01:10:31.000 --> 01:10:34.000]  I don't take any prescription drugs.
[01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.000]  I've never had chemo, never had radiation,
[01:10:37.000 --> 01:10:41.000]  and I've never had a relapse in 51 years.
[01:10:41.000 --> 01:10:45.000]  And I got that Mayo Clinic letter that you've read.
[01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:46.000]  That's right.
[01:10:46.000 --> 01:10:49.000]  That said, I'm not lying about this.
[01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:54.000]  And my slides are preserved in paraffin at the Mayo Clinic
[01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:57.000]  because when I wrote them and told them I was going to sue them,
[01:10:57.000 --> 01:11:00.000]  they got ready.
[01:11:00.000 --> 01:11:02.000]  So yeah, no, we're telling the truth.
[01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:03.000]  That's great.
[01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:07.000]  But I'm not prescribing.
[01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:10.000]  I'm not telling people, yes, you can get well.
[01:11:10.000 --> 01:11:13.000]  What I'm saying is I got well.
[01:11:13.000 --> 01:11:16.000]  And if that sounds like a good idea,
[01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:18.000]  I'm willing to talk to you about it
[01:11:18.000 --> 01:11:21.000]  and move the ball down the field.
[01:11:21.000 --> 01:11:23.000]  That's great that you're doing that.
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:26.000]  It's just a sad commentary on our government
[01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000]  that you have to be so careful about how you present this information
[01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:32.000]  or they will attack you.
[01:11:32.000 --> 01:11:36.000]  I mean, that in and of itself is just offensive
[01:11:36.000 --> 01:11:39.000]  when you look at how they police all this information
[01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:42.000]  and call it whatever they want to call it.
[01:11:42.000 --> 01:11:44.000]  But I'm used to that.
[01:11:44.000 --> 01:11:48.000]  I mean, there's so many different topics that they will cancel you for,
[01:11:48.000 --> 01:11:50.000]  but that is one of the key ones that's there.
[01:11:50.000 --> 01:11:59.000]  Again, b17works.orgs.com and oasisofhope.com
[01:11:59.000 --> 01:12:02.000]  and also rncstore.com.
[01:12:02.000 --> 01:12:04.000]  And that's where you can use the code Knight
[01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.000]  to get some books as well as supplements that they sell there
[01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:09.000]  and get a 10% discount off of that.
[01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:11.000]  Thank you so much.
[01:12:11.000 --> 01:12:12.000]  Knight with a K.
[01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:13.000]  That's right.
[01:12:13.000 --> 01:12:14.000]  Thank you so much, Rick.
[01:12:14.000 --> 01:12:16.000]  I appreciate your story.
[01:12:16.000 --> 01:12:19.000]  And I'm glad that it all worked out for you.
[01:12:19.000 --> 01:12:21.000]  We're glad that you're doing fine.
[01:12:21.000 --> 01:12:24.000]  I just think back of all the friends and family
[01:12:24.000 --> 01:12:26.000]  that I've lost to cancer.
[01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:27.000]  Your father?
[01:12:27.000 --> 01:12:28.000]  Yes.
[01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:29.000]  My father.
[01:12:29.000 --> 01:12:31.000]  Never came out of a coma.
[01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:32.000]  What is that about?
[01:12:32.000 --> 01:12:35.000]  My sister died at the age of 50 with cancer,
[01:12:35.000 --> 01:12:38.000]  and she went to the MD Anderson clinic,
[01:12:38.000 --> 01:12:40.000]  and they messed her up really bad.
[01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:44.000]  It was a difficult last couple of months of her life, really was.
[01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:48.000]  So it's something that really hits home in my family,
[01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:50.000]  and I want to get this information out.
[01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:52.000]  So thank you so much for coming on, Rick.
[01:12:52.000 --> 01:12:53.000]  I appreciate it.
[01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:57.000]  I enjoyed being here, and every time you call me, I'll come run it.
[01:12:57.000 --> 01:12:58.000]  Thank you.
[01:12:58.000 --> 01:12:59.000]  Thank you.
[01:12:59.000 --> 01:13:00.000]  Have a good day.
[01:13:00.000 --> 01:13:01.000]  Thank you very much.
[01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:02.000]  Thank you.
[01:13:02.000 --> 01:13:04.000]  Again, Rick Hill and myworldwithoutcancer.com,
[01:13:04.000 --> 01:13:08.000]  b17works.com, oasisofhope.com,
[01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:11.000]  and of course rncstore.com,
[01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:14.000]  where you can get some of the things that they talk about.
[01:13:18.000 --> 01:13:19.000]  Thank you.
[01:13:48.000 --> 01:13:49.000]  Thank you.
[01:13:49.000 --> 01:13:50.000]  Thank you.
[01:14:18.000 --> 01:14:47.000]  Thank you.
[01:14:47.000 --> 01:15:01.220]  Making sense, common again, you're listening to The David Knight Show.
[01:15:01.220 --> 01:15:07.820]  Well joining us now is Sascha Paparic and he has an international perspective on the
[01:15:07.820 --> 01:15:08.820]  real estate market.
[01:15:08.820 --> 01:15:13.580]  You know, we have a way that we have here in America of buying and selling houses, which
[01:15:13.580 --> 01:15:15.580]  is different than the rest of the world.
[01:15:15.580 --> 01:15:21.220]  We've only seen one way for several decades, but even that way is undergoing a lot of different
[01:15:21.220 --> 01:15:22.220]  changes.
[01:15:22.220 --> 01:15:27.820]  We've had major lawsuits between brokerages and others fighting each other in court in
[01:15:27.820 --> 01:15:31.720]  terms of how listings are going to be done, how real estate is going to be done, commissions
[01:15:31.720 --> 01:15:32.720]  and things like that.
[01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:40.280]  Two major lawsuits with the National Association of Realtors, one in 2023 that was $1.8 billion,
[01:15:40.280 --> 01:15:45.140]  and then there was another one for $400-something million that happened in 2024.
[01:15:45.380 --> 01:15:48.860]  Meanwhile, there are lawsuits going back and forth between big brokerage companies like
[01:15:48.860 --> 01:15:58.340]  Remax and a service called Compass that is doing listings for a short period of time
[01:15:58.340 --> 01:16:00.780]  before they put them out for multiple listings.
[01:16:00.780 --> 01:16:04.580]  So that's created a competition between Compass and Zillow.
[01:16:04.580 --> 01:16:11.180]  So Sascha has a company that is the first international real estate platform.
[01:16:11.180 --> 01:16:15.060]  So I thought it'd be kind of interesting to get his perspective on how things are rapidly
[01:16:15.060 --> 01:16:19.860]  changing here in the United States, as well as what is customary internationally.
[01:16:19.860 --> 01:16:25.500]  So joining us now is Sascha Poparik, the founder of Immobilium, I guess is the way you pronounce
[01:16:25.500 --> 01:16:26.500]  it.
[01:16:26.500 --> 01:16:27.500]  Is that correct?
[01:16:27.500 --> 01:16:28.500]  Excellent.
[01:16:28.500 --> 01:16:29.500]  And thank you, David.
[01:16:29.500 --> 01:16:31.460]  Thank you for having me on your podcast.
[01:16:31.460 --> 01:16:32.460]  Well, thank you for coming on.
[01:16:32.460 --> 01:16:33.460]  Yeah, it's kind of interesting.
[01:16:33.460 --> 01:16:35.220]  A lot of tech changes are really happening.
[01:16:35.220 --> 01:16:40.460]  And I think even when we look at the ability of artificial intelligence to go through and
[01:16:40.460 --> 01:16:47.980]  sort through a large amount of data and bring that home and make some sense of it, we're
[01:16:47.980 --> 01:16:51.180]  not at the point yet where the AI agents are really working that well.
[01:16:51.180 --> 01:16:56.780]  But theoretically, you could have an AI agent that would go out and look at listings and
[01:16:56.780 --> 01:17:00.580]  you tell it you want to be in this general area and you give it some other parameters,
[01:17:00.580 --> 01:17:06.180]  maybe about schools or this or that, and have it do a sort through of all the data that's
[01:17:06.180 --> 01:17:07.860]  out there and present candidates to you.
[01:17:07.860 --> 01:17:10.540]  Well, what do you think is going to be happening in the real estate market?
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[01:18:43.340 --> 01:18:50.540]  I mean, we had this like little chat before we started and you know, I think that the
[01:18:50.620 --> 01:18:57.900]  major thing that's going to happen, it's that unfortunately, or fortunately, agents are
[01:18:57.900 --> 01:18:59.940]  going to become more and more obsolete.
[01:18:59.940 --> 01:19:04.860]  And you know, human agents, human agents, you mean real estate agents?
[01:19:04.860 --> 01:19:05.860]  Absolutely.
[01:19:05.860 --> 01:19:12.940]  The physical appearance of an agent, because the work that agents provide today, it's not
[01:19:12.940 --> 01:19:17.740]  even as close what was happening 10, 15, I'm not even talking about 20 years ago.
[01:19:17.740 --> 01:19:25.340]  I mean, you as a seller, let's say in 2000s, early 2000s, we're hiring an agent who like
[01:19:25.340 --> 01:19:32.940]  who would go like and break his or her's leg and show it in the house and take pictures
[01:19:32.940 --> 01:19:39.460]  and do all these documentations, applications, anything for you, which was rightfully something
[01:19:39.460 --> 01:19:43.780]  that would earn the agent five percent of the commission or six percent of commission
[01:19:43.780 --> 01:19:44.940]  depends on the area.
[01:19:44.940 --> 01:19:45.940]  Exactly.
[01:19:46.420 --> 01:19:52.940]  Today's age, I mean, I am not sure what agents are actually doing, except being like Instagram
[01:19:52.940 --> 01:19:53.940]  models.
[01:19:53.940 --> 01:19:59.860]  I mean, it's you can say, OK, so people are going to look at me now because I have tons
[01:19:59.860 --> 01:20:02.780]  of friends who are agents and tons of friends who are brokers.
[01:20:02.780 --> 01:20:05.340]  And I think they already know this whole thing.
[01:20:05.340 --> 01:20:14.620]  This whole covid period shook that three of four hundred thousand agents in California
[01:20:14.620 --> 01:20:21.460]  alone, you know, coming down to maybe like only 30 percent of them actually selling something.
[01:20:21.460 --> 01:20:26.300]  And you know, because every single agent prior the covid, prior the interest rates coming
[01:20:26.300 --> 01:20:32.180]  to just a few percent and was making two hundred thousand dollars a year, buying the brand
[01:20:32.220 --> 01:20:38.300]  new beamers, buying amazing purses like if it was a female agent.
[01:20:38.300 --> 01:20:42.620]  And it was like irritating the neighbor next door who was actually doing something else,
[01:20:42.620 --> 01:20:46.460]  being a hostess of being like, you know, a receptionist.
[01:20:46.460 --> 01:20:50.180]  And then she got neighbors like, oh, my God, how do you make all this money?
[01:20:50.180 --> 01:20:54.500]  It was seller's market properties being sold left and right.
[01:20:54.500 --> 01:20:59.340]  And then they go, look, you just go do your test three, four months, you know, whatever.
[01:20:59.420 --> 01:21:04.100]  You get your license and join my brokerage and I'm going to give you so many deals because
[01:21:04.100 --> 01:21:09.740]  the market is looking for for buyers to accumulate.
[01:21:09.740 --> 01:21:13.860]  And everyone was making money when covid hit.
[01:21:13.860 --> 01:21:16.060]  After the covid, the economy started crashing down.
[01:21:16.060 --> 01:21:17.620]  All these things.
[01:21:17.620 --> 01:21:24.340]  Most of the agents fell off and they go back to their own roots, back to being hairstylists,
[01:21:25.300 --> 01:21:28.980]  back to be receptionist.
[01:21:28.980 --> 01:21:30.620]  There was nothing on the market.
[01:21:30.620 --> 01:21:31.660]  There was no sales.
[01:21:31.660 --> 01:21:32.660]  But not just that.
[01:21:32.660 --> 01:21:40.820]  There was nothing that could they could contribute towards the helping the industry grow.
[01:21:40.820 --> 01:21:47.620]  And I think that that era has pushed technology to the truth, because every single agent who
[01:21:47.620 --> 01:21:49.940]  was sticking to its own gun, you know what?
[01:21:49.940 --> 01:21:51.980]  I'm going to stick to this thing.
[01:21:51.980 --> 01:22:00.620]  They were looking for ways how to how to utilize the technology itself and how to monetize
[01:22:00.620 --> 01:22:04.420]  to make it easier for them to sell the property.
[01:22:04.420 --> 01:22:13.220]  So it became its own beast, its own entity, its own, so to say, a beam parallel towards
[01:22:13.220 --> 01:22:14.700]  the real estate industry.
[01:22:14.700 --> 01:22:20.700]  And people start slowly adapting towards technology on enormous ways.
[01:22:20.700 --> 01:22:25.020]  So technology grew up next to the whole market.
[01:22:25.020 --> 01:22:32.380]  Now you're coming with concepts like Compass, Compass and Refkin, which is an amazing, amazing
[01:22:32.380 --> 01:22:41.540]  brain of of of a human like he saw that he saw that tech, you know, future.
[01:22:41.540 --> 01:22:43.300]  And so did others.
[01:22:43.300 --> 01:22:44.460]  So did Zillow.
[01:22:44.460 --> 01:22:48.260]  So did so is Google right now.
[01:22:48.260 --> 01:22:56.460]  And it's becoming more and more relevant for you to use technology as a tool and making
[01:22:56.460 --> 01:23:04.420]  it so accessible and so easier to even the agents who are not tech savvy to actually
[01:23:04.420 --> 01:23:06.140]  utilize the sales.
[01:23:06.140 --> 01:23:15.620]  I remember when we brought when we build our own tech in early 2020s and I was going and
[01:23:15.660 --> 01:23:22.380]  it was this block chain thing and people asking what is block chain crypto was on top.
[01:23:22.380 --> 01:23:24.580]  Everyone was buying Bitcoin.
[01:23:24.580 --> 01:23:26.420]  Everyone's buying Dogecoin.
[01:23:26.420 --> 01:23:28.380]  Everyone was buying all these coins.
[01:23:28.380 --> 01:23:29.980]  Everyone was making money.
[01:23:29.980 --> 01:23:37.620]  So agents themselves who are not so tech savvy would automatically associate block chain
[01:23:37.620 --> 01:23:40.660]  and all this new technology to Bitcoin.
[01:23:40.660 --> 01:23:44.180]  As long as it was working and Bitcoin was rising.
[01:23:44.180 --> 01:23:47.180]  So to say the crypto was rising, they will.
[01:23:47.180 --> 01:23:52.020]  They were the biggest fan of the tech crypto start crashing down.
[01:23:52.020 --> 01:23:53.860]  So much scam was happening.
[01:23:53.860 --> 01:23:58.620]  They were like then literally eliminating everything that they actually got associated
[01:23:58.620 --> 01:23:59.620]  with.
[01:23:59.620 --> 01:24:05.740]  They didn't want to deal with this thing that even us had to bury this whole amazing
[01:24:06.220 --> 01:24:12.260]  concept of transparency, security and transaction on a global level and put the agents first,
[01:24:12.260 --> 01:24:15.060]  the human factor first.
[01:24:15.060 --> 01:24:18.740]  For us actually helped us build this franchise.
[01:24:18.740 --> 01:24:26.340]  It was actually a blessing in disguise adding human factor and adding, you know, these whole
[01:24:26.340 --> 01:24:30.300]  agents on top of it to make us grow.
[01:24:30.300 --> 01:24:36.140]  Now, Compass sees, hold on a second, we built something significant.
[01:24:36.140 --> 01:24:37.660]  We are expanding.
[01:24:37.660 --> 01:24:44.140]  We've been through throughout and straightforward to this whole real estate winter and crypto
[01:24:44.140 --> 01:24:47.460]  winter and there is a light at the end of the tunnel.
[01:24:47.460 --> 01:24:55.420]  Why do we have to now really deal whatever the National Association of Realtors, NAR,
[01:24:55.420 --> 01:24:56.420]  is dictating?
[01:24:56.420 --> 01:24:58.580]  There is no point of that.
[01:24:58.740 --> 01:25:06.940]  The same way people see MLS as the major platform dictating their own ways and Compass said,
[01:25:06.940 --> 01:25:10.420]  hey, I'm going to go and do it my own way.
[01:25:10.420 --> 01:25:14.740]  And this is well within NAR and that's why the lawsuits are starting.
[01:25:14.740 --> 01:25:15.740]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:25:15.740 --> 01:25:17.100]  It is kind of interesting as you're talking about this.
[01:25:17.100 --> 01:25:18.100]  What value do they add?
[01:25:18.100 --> 01:25:23.180]  And I remember when we bought a house in the early 80s and we were in Texas, we were buying
[01:25:23.180 --> 01:25:28.060]  a house in North Carolina and we had an agent who did what you were talking about.
[01:25:28.060 --> 01:25:32.340]  They would physically go around to the different places and take, you know, at the time they
[01:25:32.340 --> 01:25:38.860]  had a, you know, in the early 80s, they had like a fax machine that would give them a
[01:25:38.860 --> 01:25:44.180]  text description only of this property and so they could look at it, see how many square
[01:25:44.180 --> 01:25:48.460]  feet it was and bedrooms and things like that, but they didn't have any way to actually
[01:25:48.460 --> 01:25:49.820]  transmit pictures.
[01:25:49.820 --> 01:25:52.100]  So they would go around and take pictures of it.
[01:25:52.100 --> 01:25:56.740]  They'd spend a lot of time looking at it and that type of thing, but and then narrowing
[01:25:56.740 --> 01:25:59.220]  it down, talking to us, narrowing it down.
[01:25:59.220 --> 01:26:03.380]  And then when we came to visit, they had a list of places that we could go look at.
[01:26:03.380 --> 01:26:08.020]  But since then, I've been scratching my head and saying, you know, what do I really need
[01:26:08.020 --> 01:26:09.580]  an agent for?
[01:26:09.580 --> 01:26:14.140]  Because if we've got the capability to look at these listings online with pictures and
[01:26:14.140 --> 01:26:18.260]  all the rest of the stuff, I'm doing all the leg work, actually finger work, right?
[01:26:18.260 --> 01:26:22.700]  Looking at all these different things with the databases there and what value are the
[01:26:22.700 --> 01:26:24.820]  agents really adding to any of that?
[01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:29.300]  And I think furthermore, when we look at it, probably the time is coming where you'd be
[01:26:29.300 --> 01:26:32.980]  able to not too far off, somebody's going to put something in and let you do a virtual
[01:26:32.980 --> 01:26:36.340]  house tour that's going to be kind of three dimensional, right?
[01:26:36.340 --> 01:26:38.020]  And you won't need to physically go there.
[01:26:38.020 --> 01:26:39.300]  You get a very good idea of it.
[01:26:39.300 --> 01:26:42.100]  You'll still want to go probably and kick the tires.
[01:26:42.100 --> 01:26:47.940]  But the being able to get a sense of the space and be able to move through it and that type
[01:26:47.940 --> 01:26:50.420]  of thing, I think that's probably the next thing that's coming.
[01:26:50.420 --> 01:26:55.500]  So the question then is what function do these agents bring to it?
[01:26:55.500 --> 01:26:58.180]  And I think that's a key thing that's there.
[01:26:58.180 --> 01:27:02.900]  What you have now is an institution that was set up for a different time when people didn't
[01:27:02.900 --> 01:27:07.540]  have that kind of information at their fingertips and it's become an anachronism, I think.
[01:27:07.540 --> 01:27:08.740]  And so there's going to be a lot of changes.
[01:27:08.740 --> 01:27:13.020]  So when you look at it as an international agency, talk to us about how it's different
[01:27:13.020 --> 01:27:18.220]  in other countries in terms of the house buying experience than in America.
[01:27:18.460 --> 01:27:26.380]  I think that, as you just said, and I completely agree with you, an agent had to come to you,
[01:27:26.380 --> 01:27:30.860]  fill up the papers, sign here, fax it, go, show you, drive you around.
[01:27:30.860 --> 01:27:31.820]  Oh, my God.
[01:27:31.820 --> 01:27:33.900]  My first properties in the 90s.
[01:27:33.900 --> 01:27:35.340]  Actually, I got tired.
[01:27:35.340 --> 01:27:38.620]  I got tired driving around with an agent who set everything up.
[01:27:38.620 --> 01:27:43.420]  I could not even imagine that I had to deal with this thing that I had to deal with, you
[01:27:43.420 --> 01:27:49.900]  know, sellers with seller's agent, with escrow, with title, because the security and transparency
[01:27:49.900 --> 01:27:52.700]  through technology did not exist.
[01:27:52.700 --> 01:27:55.420]  Today, you sign everything with DocuSign.
[01:27:55.420 --> 01:27:57.420]  You don't even have to go to notary anymore.
[01:27:57.420 --> 01:28:03.340]  There is an RON, a remote online notarization that you and I can now really be with a third
[01:28:03.340 --> 01:28:07.500]  party notary public through a video call and authorize everything.
[01:28:07.500 --> 01:28:09.500]  So I don't have to leave the house.
[01:28:09.500 --> 01:28:12.860]  The problem is this thing is still not there.
[01:28:12.940 --> 01:28:16.540]  It's the getting used to a factor.
[01:28:16.540 --> 01:28:24.780]  The same way it took you a long time to switch from a cab, from a taxi into an Uber.
[01:28:24.780 --> 01:28:29.820]  The same way it took you a long time to switch from a BlackBerry to an iPhone.
[01:28:29.820 --> 01:28:35.020]  You cannot even imagine not having like, you know, Alexa to say like a keyboard to type,
[01:28:35.020 --> 01:28:36.540]  like what is an iPhone?
[01:28:36.540 --> 01:28:40.380]  You were fighting it while technology was there and growing it.
[01:28:41.020 --> 01:28:46.380]  More and more people are getting comfortable, comfortable with dealing with their own thing.
[01:28:46.380 --> 01:28:55.020]  Now you want to say is five to six percent commission worth it for an agent to collect
[01:28:55.980 --> 01:29:02.860]  on a property that's been sold to an agent in today's age, today's society?
[01:29:02.860 --> 01:29:03.660]  Absolutely not.
[01:29:04.380 --> 01:29:05.740]  Absolutely not.
[01:29:05.740 --> 01:29:09.420]  Because most of the work is already being prepared by a seller.
[01:29:10.620 --> 01:29:16.940]  If the seller is really wants to put some effort, they can deal with what you may call
[01:29:16.940 --> 01:29:18.620]  it with title company.
[01:29:18.620 --> 01:29:21.740]  They can deal with with escrow.
[01:29:21.740 --> 01:29:23.100]  They can do an inspection.
[01:29:23.100 --> 01:29:29.980]  There is still this securing concept of a buyer not trusting the seller.
[01:29:31.100 --> 01:29:35.020]  It's not like you're buying something from your brother next door.
[01:29:35.660 --> 01:29:37.580]  You're buying through someone that do know.
[01:29:37.580 --> 01:29:42.940]  So that's why they're using these brokerages because brokerage is so to say someone who
[01:29:42.940 --> 01:29:49.100]  guarantees that the process, the legitimacy of the process is going to be completed right.
[01:29:49.100 --> 01:29:52.780]  And that's when the seller and buyers are needing a third party.
[01:29:52.780 --> 01:29:57.020]  Generally speaking, if I will meet you now and we put something on a paper and it's like,
[01:29:57.020 --> 01:29:58.780]  OK, let's just be honest with each other.
[01:29:58.780 --> 01:30:00.300]  Let's go through inspection together.
[01:30:00.300 --> 01:30:01.660]  Let's go through this together.
[01:30:01.660 --> 01:30:04.460]  We both can bypass five, six percent commission.
[01:30:04.460 --> 01:30:07.500]  The only thing that's needed here is an escrow.
[01:30:07.500 --> 01:30:13.180]  Which is something that like until we submit all the paperwork is the main factor of holding
[01:30:13.180 --> 01:30:16.860]  the dis-transaction and the money agents.
[01:30:16.860 --> 01:30:24.140]  What I'm seeing where agents are needed, it's like in art business, you know, it's easy
[01:30:24.140 --> 01:30:32.140]  for you to sell an emerging artists painting who now through your show can showcase it.
[01:30:32.140 --> 01:30:33.580]  Look what I have.
[01:30:34.140 --> 01:30:37.340]  Go to one of these platforms and buy and you say, OK, great.
[01:30:38.060 --> 01:30:44.700]  When you are coming to like Picasso's, when you are coming to Frida Kahlo's or Pollock's
[01:30:44.700 --> 01:30:49.420]  or those those really abstract or like very expensive collectors, artists,
[01:30:49.420 --> 01:30:56.140]  they worth millions and millions of dollars, you need millions of dollars equivalent buyers.
[01:30:56.940 --> 01:30:59.340]  Those guys, they don't sit around.
[01:30:59.340 --> 01:31:01.100]  They don't look through Zillow.
[01:31:01.100 --> 01:31:05.820]  They do not actually just, you know, knock on doors.
[01:31:05.820 --> 01:31:14.300]  They need specific group of agents who are having buyers catalogs or having sellers catalogs
[01:31:14.300 --> 01:31:19.420]  because these people have enough money to actually not deal with agents.
[01:31:19.420 --> 01:31:25.740]  And when a 10 million dollar property with five percent commission costs half a million
[01:31:25.740 --> 01:31:33.500]  dollars out of sellers pocket, it makes sense because the sale of a 10 million,
[01:31:33.500 --> 01:31:36.220]  20 million dollar mansion was done faster.
[01:31:36.860 --> 01:31:40.940]  These individuals may always need some agents.
[01:31:41.740 --> 01:31:48.220]  But if I have a four hundred thousand dollars condo in, I don't know, call it like Phoenix,
[01:31:48.220 --> 01:31:53.100]  Arizona, you know, I don't know why I need an agent for what this agent is going to do.
[01:31:53.100 --> 01:31:54.380]  The place is on the market.
[01:31:54.940 --> 01:31:56.860]  It's nothing extravagant.
[01:31:56.860 --> 01:32:00.780]  As long as you get yourself a loan and you can tell me that you approve of funds,
[01:32:00.780 --> 01:32:04.940]  I'm there to close the deal and to save us 20 grand.
[01:32:04.940 --> 01:32:05.820]  Why not?
[01:32:05.820 --> 01:32:05.900]  Yeah.
[01:32:05.900 --> 01:32:11.820]  So those are the things I'm seeing agents being still part of some society down the road
[01:32:12.380 --> 01:32:16.780]  versus like being associated with every single property on the market.
[01:32:16.780 --> 01:32:16.940]  Yeah.
[01:32:16.940 --> 01:32:20.780]  When you're talking about the high end properties, it reminds me when I've been to Jackson Hole,
[01:32:20.780 --> 01:32:25.340]  I see the real estate dealers that are there in places like Sotheby's, you know,
[01:32:25.500 --> 01:32:29.180]  just to think of as a fine art auction house.
[01:32:29.180 --> 01:32:33.980]  And because the properties are so expensive, that's what they're doing and actually using
[01:32:33.980 --> 01:32:37.100]  the analogy that you did that you got somebody that is going to be
[01:32:38.060 --> 01:32:43.740]  connected to the very wealthy people who pay that kind of money for a home there in Jackson
[01:32:43.740 --> 01:32:44.060]  Hole.
[01:32:44.060 --> 01:32:45.420]  So I agree with you with that.
[01:32:45.420 --> 01:32:49.500]  But in terms of the bread and butter stuff that is out there, the ordinary size homes,
[01:32:49.500 --> 01:32:55.020]  it's a huge commission to pay when there's not a lot of services that are being provided there.
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[01:34:29.580 --> 01:34:35.580]  So tell us a little bit about your international real estate platform and how is that different
[01:34:36.140 --> 01:34:37.900]  than what we see that's out there right now?
[01:34:41.100 --> 01:34:41.900]  Have we lost him?
[01:34:43.660 --> 01:34:45.180]  Yeah, okay.
[01:34:46.860 --> 01:34:47.740]  Let's try to reconnect.
[01:34:48.700 --> 01:34:49.900]  I think we got a cut off.
[01:34:49.900 --> 01:34:50.700]  Oh, okay, we did.
[01:34:50.700 --> 01:34:51.420]  Yeah, that's right.
[01:34:51.420 --> 01:34:52.780]  Okay, we're back now.
[01:34:53.580 --> 01:34:58.700]  I said, so tell us a little bit about your platform, Mobilium,
[01:34:58.700 --> 01:35:01.740]  and it's the first international real estate platform.
[01:35:01.740 --> 01:35:05.580]  How does that operate that's different from what Americans are used to seeing
[01:35:05.580 --> 01:35:09.340]  through realestate.com and Zillow and their local agents?
[01:35:11.020 --> 01:35:18.780]  Well, as an American real estate industry, you're always kind of associate
[01:35:18.780 --> 01:35:22.140]  what's in your backyard, what's close to you.
[01:35:22.460 --> 01:35:27.420]  I have friends of mine who I'm trying to sway over to buy amazing properties
[01:35:28.140 --> 01:35:35.980]  in Spain, Greece, even Africa, Dubai, South America, amazing deals.
[01:35:35.980 --> 01:35:40.700]  Now with Maduro gone in Venezuela, there's so many deals over there,
[01:35:40.700 --> 01:35:44.780]  and we all know that Venezuela potentially where we have our operation,
[01:35:45.900 --> 01:35:50.780]  at one point, is going to be probably the most prosperous country in South America.
[01:35:51.420 --> 01:35:54.780]  But now convincing you, David, to tell you,
[01:35:54.780 --> 01:36:01.660]  hey, why don't you buy a $10 million hotel in Isla Margarita, Venezuela?
[01:36:01.660 --> 01:36:08.860]  You would tell me, Sasha, this is all great, but I do not know anything about that area.
[01:36:08.860 --> 01:36:11.740]  And I tell you, dude, you're going to make three times the money
[01:36:11.740 --> 01:36:17.100]  what you're going to make in Los Angeles because national increasing properties
[01:36:17.180 --> 01:36:21.420]  in California, it's like 10% versus let's say what's happening overseas.
[01:36:21.420 --> 01:36:26.380]  You're going to tell me, Sasha, I like my 10% because I don't know the law,
[01:36:26.380 --> 01:36:31.500]  the rules and regulations or anything like that versus something that could be overseas.
[01:36:32.140 --> 01:36:36.380]  Now, this is coming from someone who is more stationary,
[01:36:36.380 --> 01:36:42.940]  located in the areas of your own, so to say, a vicinity.
[01:36:43.580 --> 01:36:48.380]  But major companies, major investors, they don't buy anything local.
[01:36:49.660 --> 01:36:53.980]  It's already over-exaggerating. They want to actually buy something that's
[01:36:54.540 --> 01:37:01.340]  30 cents on a dollar. And those are the guys that actually use us or any other major
[01:37:01.340 --> 01:37:08.700]  international franchises to purchase properties in St. Lucia or purchase properties in different
[01:37:08.700 --> 01:37:16.620]  other countries with security and transparency. So what we did, we actually created technology that
[01:37:17.260 --> 01:37:23.020]  allows all this transaction to happen, connecting with the banking systems,
[01:37:23.020 --> 01:37:27.980]  connecting and converting crypto into a fiat. That's a major concept that some countries still
[01:37:27.980 --> 01:37:36.300]  do not accept crypto payments. So we are converting them and sending fiat, which means dollars or
[01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:43.420]  euros into those countries. And of course, securities. Here you have, in America,
[01:37:44.060 --> 01:37:50.860]  almost by default, inspection, title, as we say, like escrow. In other countries, you don't. So
[01:37:50.860 --> 01:37:57.580]  for you to just go and buy something in another country, it's like a risk that you're taking
[01:37:57.580 --> 01:38:03.900]  unless you have somewhere there on the ground doing that legwork for you, doing this security for you.
[01:38:04.460 --> 01:38:14.380]  And what we actually have done, we have so far 102 global locations in 60 countries. So we syndicated
[01:38:16.540 --> 01:38:21.340]  boutique brokerages to be under our umbrella, to be under our franchise.
[01:38:22.780 --> 01:38:29.420]  We still gave them, we still told them to keep their own identity. That's another aspect of
[01:38:29.420 --> 01:38:33.980]  international way of thinking. Oh, you're going to come here as a predator. You're going to take
[01:38:33.980 --> 01:38:40.940]  my name away. It's not Travis Knight. Now it's Remax. So we said, no, no, no. How about you still
[01:38:40.940 --> 01:38:46.220]  Travis Knight and we just give you the roof over your head and technology to make you more
[01:38:46.220 --> 01:38:51.420]  transparent to international buyers. And then you say, okay, great. I'm happy about it. Like it's,
[01:38:51.420 --> 01:38:58.940]  it's a sensitive concept, but doing, we are not just catering to an American buying something
[01:38:59.420 --> 01:39:07.980]  in Malta. What we are doing, we are focusing or where the diaspora, the immigration is like
[01:39:07.980 --> 01:39:15.020]  focusing to access those like centers. Well, let's say there is a half a million Greeks
[01:39:15.020 --> 01:39:21.500]  living in Chicago. So pretty much they're going to be 99% buyers of the Greek properties in
[01:39:21.500 --> 01:39:26.460]  Greek islands or something like that. We're not going to force feed some American telling you,
[01:39:26.540 --> 01:39:30.860]  buy this thing in Athens. We're going to go to Greek communities. We're going to go to
[01:39:30.860 --> 01:39:36.940]  Greek cultural centers and say, Hey, we are here to help you buy something from back home
[01:39:36.940 --> 01:39:43.580]  because eventually you may just go back, immigrate, retire, and be where you came from.
[01:39:43.580 --> 01:39:51.180]  And by starting that, we open those, those doors, those pipelines where now even in Americans who
[01:39:51.180 --> 01:39:57.020]  have nothing to do with, let's say Greece in general, as an example, are willing to purchase
[01:39:57.020 --> 01:40:06.380]  properties there. And why? Because there's many incentives buying, let's say properties in Europe.
[01:40:07.180 --> 01:40:16.780]  You can actually secure yourself a EU residency, European residency by buying a 250,000 euros
[01:40:17.740 --> 01:40:25.100]  property or piece of real estate in Greece. And it gives you something which is called a golden visa,
[01:40:25.100 --> 01:40:31.500]  which is equivalent to like a green car in America, allows you to stay in Greece. And it's a
[01:40:31.500 --> 01:40:37.900]  first step for you to become potentially a passport of European union and immigrate over there.
[01:40:38.700 --> 01:40:44.940]  Other countries have similar concepts, similar plans like Malta, Portugal, Hungary.
[01:40:45.580 --> 01:40:50.060]  And so they actually doing exactly the same that what America is doing in a come here,
[01:40:50.060 --> 01:40:55.340]  invest money, stay here. Now they say, Hey, why don't you move to Europe? You've been tired
[01:40:55.340 --> 01:41:01.820]  of American way of life, you know, immigrate over here and you can travel to Europe. And so those
[01:41:01.820 --> 01:41:09.100]  are the ways that we have set up, not just for Europe, in America, you know, Africa as well,
[01:41:09.100 --> 01:41:14.060]  and bunch of other areas. I see. Yeah, that's, that's kind of interesting. You know, years ago,
[01:41:14.060 --> 01:41:19.100]  I remember John Davidson, who was with the National Taxpayers Union, one of the things he
[01:41:19.100 --> 01:41:25.020]  was saying was, you want to try to make sure you've got what he called residential ambiguity. Am I
[01:41:25.020 --> 01:41:31.420]  really, I have a footprint in several different countries. And he looked at it as a way of kind of
[01:41:31.420 --> 01:41:35.100]  keeping your foot in the door for freedom. You know, if it gets really bad in one area,
[01:41:35.100 --> 01:41:39.260]  you can get out. Of course, we've had a lot of people who have emigrated out of the United
[01:41:39.260 --> 01:41:44.060]  States because of things that they see happening here. Speaking of international situations,
[01:41:44.060 --> 01:41:47.900]  just as kind of an aside, I know this wasn't what you came on to talk about, but
[01:41:48.940 --> 01:41:55.100]  let's talk a little bit about Venezuela. Can you kind of give us a temperature reading as to what's
[01:41:55.100 --> 01:42:00.060]  going on there? How are people reacting to the situation that's happened after Maduro has been
[01:42:00.060 --> 01:42:09.420]  taken out? I'm a, I'm a dreamer. I'm a visionary. I'm delusional. That's why I actually build my
[01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:14.060]  businesses. Like I just go and say, you know, whatever the hell kind of stays around. I have
[01:42:14.060 --> 01:42:19.820]  a good friend of mine. He, his name is, you know, he's one of the lawyer, I'm not going to mention
[01:42:19.820 --> 01:42:27.660]  it, but top lawyer in LA. And I was visiting him once and he has like in downtown and like probably
[01:42:28.220 --> 01:42:35.340]  the whole building of lawyers, like 60, 70 lawyers. And they take like every case that comes towards
[01:42:35.340 --> 01:42:42.140]  them. And I go to him, Mark, okay, well the cat is out of the bag. So Mark, why, why all that? He goes,
[01:42:42.140 --> 01:42:48.700]  Sasha, I throw everything against the wall, whatever it sticks. And you know, that's actually kind of
[01:42:48.700 --> 01:42:55.580]  was building all my businesses on my life. But to jump to Venezuela, we went there when no one else
[01:42:55.580 --> 01:43:03.180]  did, because I realized there is no competition. We went into Africa where everyone else is going
[01:43:03.180 --> 01:43:10.380]  out. And now I think we are the biggest Africa in 16 countries. So, so are we already positioned in
[01:43:10.380 --> 01:43:15.340]  Greenland. So we are already in Ukraine. When the war started, we went in Ukraine, we opened for
[01:43:15.340 --> 01:43:19.820]  locations. We know that that war is going to stop one day and we're going to have a position.
[01:43:20.460 --> 01:43:28.380]  Venezuela was always controversial for us. And as, you know, hopeful I was, I knew that I have to
[01:43:28.380 --> 01:43:34.620]  be pragmatic. I have to be realistic. What's the downsize and what's the downfall of if things
[01:43:34.620 --> 01:43:38.860]  don't work out. And I saw that, like, we didn't know anything illegal. We are just a realistic
[01:43:38.860 --> 01:43:44.300]  company, you know, being positioned there. But we knew that the population of Venezuela, that
[01:43:45.260 --> 01:43:52.460]  the whole, the whole that area there, they needed an open door. They need to open gates, need that.
[01:43:52.460 --> 01:43:57.660]  And I think that Maduro in general was more a symbol than anything else. I don't think that he
[01:43:57.660 --> 01:44:05.660]  was a flexing muscles or something like that. And the moment, you know, even prior Maduro's,
[01:44:05.660 --> 01:44:10.860]  we had deals that we were offering to people. They were scared. No one like that. I have one of my
[01:44:10.860 --> 01:44:15.020]  partners who's actually not even a US citizen. And he's like, dude, you have to go there and
[01:44:15.020 --> 01:44:18.620]  like do some deals. No, I'm scared. I'm going to get arrested. He's like, nobody's going to arrest
[01:44:18.620 --> 01:44:25.740]  you, man. Nobody cares. Trust me. But people were scared and they didn't want to even look at
[01:44:25.740 --> 01:44:35.340]  Venezuela as a vision and not even buy something. Now things have changed. So we have requests
[01:44:35.340 --> 01:44:43.260]  for land purchases. People are asking us where exactly the oil refineries are. When it comes
[01:44:43.260 --> 01:44:49.900]  to Venezuela, this area is going, this is it. That's it. It's stabilizing. It's going to become
[01:44:49.900 --> 01:44:55.340]  probably the most prosperous market in South America. It's going to dominate. You know,
[01:44:55.340 --> 01:45:02.780]  some people say, you know, I miss my chance with El Salvador and I miss with Venezuela
[01:45:03.580 --> 01:45:08.700]  because I said prior that everyone was scared of those areas. So they say it's a Salvador,
[01:45:08.700 --> 01:45:13.420]  Panama. Those are the kind of like, you know, tunnels they're building when it comes to wealth,
[01:45:13.420 --> 01:45:20.620]  when it comes to money making and of course in its real estate. So most of people are not approaching
[01:45:20.620 --> 01:45:26.140]  us. Even still, they're like very candidly looking and cautiously looking at this area.
[01:45:26.700 --> 01:45:33.180]  But the smart investors are asking us about land purchases, commercial real estate purchases,
[01:45:33.980 --> 01:45:42.700]  hotels, anything that has a potential of accommodating the new way of, so to say,
[01:45:42.700 --> 01:45:50.300]  migration. And who are the first in that line are exactly the industries that are going to
[01:45:50.300 --> 01:45:56.780]  participate the most. That's the oil industries. So that's required. It's close to the oil
[01:45:56.780 --> 01:46:06.860]  refineries, oil, like drilling, drilling positions. Then the lands that are available to purchasing,
[01:46:06.860 --> 01:46:14.940]  you know, to build hotels, to build like pretty much like, you know, housings for the first
[01:46:15.740 --> 01:46:21.580]  tier of immigrants who are going to be the workers for all these big oil companies.
[01:46:23.020 --> 01:46:29.980]  Next to it are now more and more interest, not as Caracas itself. I don't think that that area
[01:46:29.980 --> 01:46:34.940]  has any appealing concept unless you are bringing some business headquarters. But
[01:46:34.940 --> 01:46:40.540]  from a residential point of view, people are feeling more and more now confident looking into,
[01:46:40.620 --> 01:46:43.180]  you know, islands there, Venezuela and like
[01:46:44.300 --> 01:46:50.300]  Isla Margarita. It's between Curacao and I've seen, and I think Aruba, these areas.
[01:46:51.820 --> 01:46:55.900]  Because those are deals there that could be now turning into Airbnbs.
[01:46:56.620 --> 01:47:03.580]  Everything that Venezuela was missing for all these years, it's shifting down there from a
[01:47:03.580 --> 01:47:07.180]  business perspective. Yeah, that was the amazing thing about Venezuela by talking about the
[01:47:07.180 --> 01:47:11.100]  tremendous natural resources that they had and why this should be one of the wealthiest
[01:47:11.100 --> 01:47:15.100]  countries on earth. And yet, because of politics and other things like that,
[01:47:15.660 --> 01:47:21.180]  it really kept that from happening. So what you're doing is you're helping people to identify,
[01:47:21.180 --> 01:47:26.620]  I guess we could say, fixer-upper economies that are there. Not just a particular house
[01:47:26.620 --> 01:47:33.340]  in a particular neighborhood, but seeing where there's a region that is poised to really grow,
[01:47:34.140 --> 01:47:39.580]  how would you advise people in terms of investing in real estate, especially internationally?
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[01:49:13.900 --> 01:49:18.540]  first in this game. Absolutely not. I see that we are in the beginning stage of what we are
[01:49:18.540 --> 01:49:23.260]  going to be, especially with technology that you mentioned. And you mentioned how AI now
[01:49:24.460 --> 01:49:30.540]  can give you the whole scenario. And I was associating with this company that actually
[01:49:30.540 --> 01:49:35.900]  are Canadians and they moved to Dominican Republic and they built this software even
[01:49:35.900 --> 01:49:43.180]  four years ago that AI was just starting. And they were literally the reason they did that because
[01:49:43.900 --> 01:49:49.820]  the Dominican Republic has the biggest influx of Canadian immigrants. They live in Canada,
[01:49:49.820 --> 01:49:55.020]  moving to the Dominican Republic because it's one of the biggest economies in this whole Caribbean
[01:49:55.020 --> 01:50:01.900]  belt. And so they didn't know where to move. So they created a software in-house, those couple
[01:50:01.900 --> 01:50:08.700]  of programmers, and they said, Hey, I want to move to the Dominican Republic. But I have a father
[01:50:08.700 --> 01:50:15.020]  who is 80 years old and he cannot walk far enough. And I want to make sure there is a bench
[01:50:16.060 --> 01:50:22.460]  in front of the house and that there is no school close to it because schools are loud.
[01:50:22.460 --> 01:50:29.900]  So to build this software, what it does, it's actually searches seven billion points of photos
[01:50:29.900 --> 01:50:37.100]  through Google map and analyzes every single area where any house is for sale. So now when you go
[01:50:37.100 --> 01:50:42.380]  to listing and you see, you know, all these filters, you see like, Oh, I want a three bedroom
[01:50:42.380 --> 01:50:48.460]  house with like two bathrooms and accepts dogs. And it's close to here and close to there. And
[01:50:48.460 --> 01:50:52.940]  you can look at it on a map, but you don't know if there is like traffic light close to it, or if it
[01:50:52.940 --> 01:50:59.740]  has this, you know, which schools. So pretty much you're going there and you see one segment, but
[01:50:59.740 --> 01:51:05.100]  not three days later, it may bother you that there is kids there coming out of school every single day
[01:51:05.180 --> 01:51:10.380]  and you just, just three million dollar house. So this software, even back then can pretty much
[01:51:10.380 --> 01:51:14.860]  give you the whole scenario. You give the whole scenario where you should move, but then it
[01:51:14.860 --> 01:51:21.660]  eliminates all the other listings in that area that would actually be a problematic for your way
[01:51:21.660 --> 01:51:30.300]  of life. Imagine how far this thing is going to go, you know, coming down the road. And
[01:51:30.620 --> 01:51:41.660]  that it's just going to help people move abroad. Moving was a taboo was something scaring was
[01:51:41.660 --> 01:51:48.380]  something like, I don't know if I make mistakes, we're going to get scammed, absolutely scammed.
[01:51:48.380 --> 01:51:55.580]  That was the whole major aspect why we build that. And I remember sitting at our early stages in 2020
[01:51:56.300 --> 01:52:03.340]  in Golden and one of the offices in Beverly Hills, we didn't even have an office. It was
[01:52:03.340 --> 01:52:08.380]  covered bankers office in Beverly Hills. And one of our friends was the GM there. And he brought
[01:52:08.380 --> 01:52:14.700]  us there. And we had like this thing called AMA, like ask me anything where people log in from
[01:52:14.700 --> 01:52:22.140]  around the world and ask us about our platform and about our, you know, concept. And we try to impress
[01:52:22.860 --> 01:52:29.020]  who is who from the industry that was like leaders from like fidelity leaders from like
[01:52:29.020 --> 01:52:35.980]  Sotheby's leader from everyone watching us. And more and more people were joining with questions
[01:52:35.980 --> 01:52:43.020]  they were from Africa, from Nigeria or something like that. Be a bigot and not to take their
[01:52:43.020 --> 01:52:48.700]  questions. So I took, you know, one, two, three questions. And at one point, I was like, okay,
[01:52:48.700 --> 01:52:53.740]  this is not looking good for me, because I was hoping someone from London is going to join in
[01:52:53.740 --> 01:52:59.340]  and ask me how to buy a property in Beverly Hills, or some Tokyo how to buy property,
[01:52:59.340 --> 01:53:05.180]  and let's say, like, I don't know, like Dubai. So I say, you know, let me double down on that.
[01:53:05.180 --> 01:53:10.700]  So I open up a conversation with that individual. And the gentleman asked me, like, when are you
[01:53:10.700 --> 01:53:17.740]  guys going to open your location in Lagos, Nigeria? And I'm like, okay, I don't even know
[01:53:17.820 --> 01:53:24.220]  that is, you know, so I'm Googling while I'm talking, I was like, okay, I see it. And I asked
[01:53:24.220 --> 01:53:31.020]  him, I'm not sure, sir, we're gonna look for it. We just opening now those big metropolitan areas,
[01:53:31.020 --> 01:53:36.060]  Barcelona, this and that. And I asked him, but I don't understand how we would make money.
[01:53:37.100 --> 01:53:45.420]  And then he goes, we do not trust our own family, sending money to put as a down payment.
[01:53:46.060 --> 01:53:54.860]  Imagine sending money to an agent who is somewhere there. And we are that it's going to be safe,
[01:53:54.860 --> 01:53:59.100]  because they don't have escrow sound there. They don't have things like we have in America,
[01:53:59.100 --> 01:54:08.780]  which is beauty of money security. And that was this aha moment when I asked him, but who is
[01:54:08.780 --> 01:54:15.340]  actually buying most of these places? He goes, our immigrants are diaspora who are all over the
[01:54:15.340 --> 01:54:21.980]  world. And that was this like, you know, around opening a door for us how to position ourselves,
[01:54:21.980 --> 01:54:28.700]  and how to actually assault assist the buyers. And from that end, everything went on the other
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[01:56:03.100 --> 01:56:11.500]  An American who would love to retire can move without any hesitation or any kind of worries
[01:56:12.140 --> 01:56:17.100]  that his or her money is going to be stolen, the transaction is going to be done,
[01:56:17.820 --> 01:56:25.260]  that the property is going to be as they said, especially for a reason of no escrow,
[01:56:25.260 --> 01:56:31.420]  especially for a reason that there is properties that are not in the register like here. As much
[01:56:31.420 --> 01:56:40.060]  as we complain about NAR or Compass doing one thing or Zillow or whatever, they are the most
[01:56:40.060 --> 01:56:47.660]  secure real estate market in the world because real estate in America, it's commodity.
[01:56:48.780 --> 01:56:55.580]  In the world, it's something that people go there, they buy and they sell. People here know they're
[01:56:55.580 --> 01:57:03.740]  going to stick here for the next 20, 30 years, they have a value, the prices are going to go,
[01:57:03.740 --> 01:57:10.460]  even if inflation is going to eat some of this appreciation, so to say, it's still going to be
[01:57:10.460 --> 01:57:17.740]  valuable 20 years later that your kids can inherit it, whereas in a world where you have to have
[01:57:17.740 --> 01:57:22.540]  tons of components, they're going to help you out. So we position those components,
[01:57:22.540 --> 01:57:30.300]  we position those tools, and we are pretty much the most transparent platform and concept around
[01:57:30.940 --> 01:57:39.020]  that for any kind of purchases, doesn't matter if it's residential, commercial, hotels, casinos,
[01:57:39.740 --> 01:57:42.860]  islands, name it, we are there to assist.
[01:57:45.100 --> 01:57:51.820]  Well, I imagine most Americans, most of us are not in the market for a casino. That's the Trump
[01:57:51.820 --> 01:57:57.180]  family, I guess, but most of us are not in the market for that, but there might still be reasons
[01:57:57.180 --> 01:58:02.620]  for us to do investment abroad. What kind of advice would you offer for people who are kind
[01:58:02.620 --> 01:58:10.620]  of middle class in America? There is a lot of incentives, everyone loves Americans as much as
[01:58:10.620 --> 01:58:20.300]  there could be a rhetoric about that, everyone loves American money. So there are areas that you
[01:58:20.300 --> 01:58:26.940]  have to feel comfortable. There are people that we sell properties in Mauritius that actually
[01:58:27.260 --> 01:58:35.980]  growing exponentially. It used to be just an island where the main source of GDP was agriculture,
[01:58:35.980 --> 01:58:43.740]  but now they change to the industry and they're making it now more, changing to like tourism,
[01:58:43.740 --> 01:58:49.420]  changing towards like, you know, opening doors to more migrants coming there, retiring over there,
[01:58:50.060 --> 01:58:56.220]  it's much more affordable lifestyle. So people ask, okay, what are pros and cons to go there?
[01:58:56.220 --> 01:59:03.820]  And once there is a wave of developments, there is many deals. So the point is, what are you buying
[01:59:03.820 --> 01:59:09.100]  this thing for? Are you buying this property so you can rent it out and have yourself some kind
[01:59:09.100 --> 01:59:16.060]  of like passive income? Or are you buying this thing to move there and live there? And that all
[01:59:16.060 --> 01:59:23.260]  depends on particular buyer. If people want to retire and they want to have like more affordable
[01:59:23.260 --> 01:59:29.260]  way of life, because, you know, if they have any 401k, it doesn't matter, let's call it a 401k,
[01:59:29.260 --> 01:59:37.420]  it's $500,000. That $500,000 in America, it's not gonna last much longer. If you bring it to
[01:59:37.420 --> 01:59:42.940]  different areas. Now what they had was something close to them. They were moved to Mexico,
[01:59:42.940 --> 01:59:48.060]  then we maybe moved to Caribbean Island somewhere they were associating. They never thought about
[01:59:48.060 --> 01:59:55.180]  moving to South America, moving to, you know, Indian Ocean area like Mauritius, Seychelles,
[01:59:55.180 --> 02:00:04.460]  all these areas, or Europe. So we, the deals there are significant. And I think that especially with
[02:00:04.460 --> 02:00:11.100]  options for you as an individual residential buyer, which is not the case in America,
[02:00:11.100 --> 02:00:18.300]  to purchase a condo, a house, and secure yourself a residency, which can open the door for the rest
[02:00:18.300 --> 02:00:24.540]  of the European countries, for example, it's an appealing incentive. And it's something that
[02:00:24.540 --> 02:00:31.500]  drives people to invest more, more and more. Yeah. And of course, I hear more and more from people
[02:00:31.500 --> 02:00:37.260]  who have lived abroad. They just can't believe how expensive everything is here in America. So
[02:00:37.260 --> 02:00:43.180]  that's one of the key things is driving people even for retirement, you know, that they still
[02:00:43.180 --> 02:00:47.420]  have their, their social security or whatever, but they can actually live off of it if they go
[02:00:47.420 --> 02:00:52.780]  to another country. So I guess you see that a lot. No, no, correct. And, but you know what it is,
[02:00:53.820 --> 02:01:00.060]  unless you dare, you know, most of the people, let's take, let's generalize the American society.
[02:01:00.620 --> 02:01:06.380]  And 99% of the people who ever left this country, there's people who never did,
[02:01:06.460 --> 02:01:11.820]  whoever left this country, they, most of them, they went on a vacation trip, two, three weeks.
[02:01:15.420 --> 02:01:17.580]  Very structured. Everything's a guided tour. Yeah.
[02:01:18.940 --> 02:01:22.940]  So maybe they went first time, they say, you know what, let me test Greece one more time.
[02:01:22.940 --> 02:01:27.100]  Let me test Spain after three, four times. You said, you know what, it's actually really
[02:01:27.100 --> 02:01:33.180]  beautiful here. So how can I live here? However, they never end up staying there longer than a
[02:01:33.180 --> 02:01:38.860]  couple of months and kind of acclimatizing themselves to the society and me being European.
[02:01:38.860 --> 02:01:43.980]  I'm actually coming from Switzerland. I understand how easy to come to America and adjust
[02:01:43.980 --> 02:01:49.820]  to the American way of life. It's not a tourism. You have to stay here. You have deal with problems,
[02:01:49.820 --> 02:01:54.780]  deal with issues, deal with like, you know, fixing yourself, like, you know, work permits.
[02:01:54.780 --> 02:02:00.700]  Like it was a concept 30 years ago that I have to endure and go that I didn't just come here as a
[02:02:00.700 --> 02:02:07.260]  tourist. So the show is on another foot for an Americans to say, okay, I'm not going to go there
[02:02:07.260 --> 02:02:13.820]  as a tourist anymore. I want to go there and stay. So how can I do that? You know, how much
[02:02:13.820 --> 02:02:19.580]  money do I need? What are my options? And in, in comparing to America,
[02:02:20.940 --> 02:02:27.020]  when it comes to acquiring precious metals, you have options. The question is who should you trust
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[02:03:49.420 --> 02:03:54.700]  slash hot. In order for you to live here, you have to be an extraordinary person to get like
[02:03:54.700 --> 02:04:02.060]  all one visa or, or to bring a business to invest into a business to get like this EB5 or E2 visa or,
[02:04:02.060 --> 02:04:08.460]  you know, get a green card or stuff like that. There are situations they are on a table, but they
[02:04:08.460 --> 02:04:16.460]  are much more complex. Europe offers incentives that you can buy a condo and secure yourself a
[02:04:16.460 --> 02:04:22.860]  residency. Now that investment is yours. You're not going to lose it here in America. If you spend,
[02:04:22.860 --> 02:04:31.100]  let's say $200,000 on a business, that's going to secure you a residency for a couple of years.
[02:04:31.100 --> 02:04:36.380]  If your business goes down, you lost money, you know, you lost $200,000 and you go with nothing.
[02:04:37.100 --> 02:04:45.100]  In Europe, you can actually buy a property, get, you know, a residency and let you explore
[02:04:45.100 --> 02:04:49.740]  if that country is really for you. If Europe is really for you, worst case scenario, you're going
[02:04:49.740 --> 02:04:54.220]  to say, you know what, I've been here two, three years. I'm going to go back to America. I still
[02:04:54.220 --> 02:05:00.060]  have my European residency. And guess what? I have a property over there that I may rent even if I'm
[02:05:00.060 --> 02:05:06.140]  not there, or I can sell it and get my money back. Those are the crucial differences between
[02:05:06.140 --> 02:05:12.700]  moving from America to Europe hypothetically and vice versa. Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. So this
[02:05:12.700 --> 02:05:18.940]  year, what do you see happening in real estate this year? Kind of the economy has been, there's
[02:05:18.940 --> 02:05:23.340]  a lot of clouds hanging over the economy. People are concerned about what's going to happen with
[02:05:23.340 --> 02:05:29.100]  the AI bubble and if that thing is going to bust. What do you see happening with real estate then?
[02:05:30.940 --> 02:05:38.620]  Real estate, it's finally coming to its senses. Okay. So all these people are realizing,
[02:05:38.620 --> 02:05:46.860]  especially the sellers, one and those prices of like, you know, millions of dollars, my property
[02:05:46.860 --> 02:05:51.580]  is jumping left and right. I'm going to stick with it. I'm not going to sell it. It's not going to
[02:05:51.580 --> 02:05:57.100]  work. You know, you have to come down with your prices. The reason is that the interest rates,
[02:05:57.100 --> 02:06:03.740]  even though as much as they fall down, they're here to stay. This now six, six and a half,
[02:06:03.740 --> 02:06:09.820]  that's it. That's the bottom six percent. It's the new three percent. You know, it's never going to
[02:06:09.820 --> 02:06:15.020]  go down again. I hope it's never because then we are in crisis. Each time an interest rates going
[02:06:15.020 --> 02:06:20.460]  to like literally under the anything that government can borrow, you know, it means like
[02:06:20.460 --> 02:06:24.700]  they need to reset the market. That's why they offer those interest rates in 2020s
[02:06:24.700 --> 02:06:32.780]  to keep the, you know, this whole country alive and purchase the property at three percent in 2020
[02:06:32.780 --> 02:06:39.980]  at a half of the price value right now should be crazy to sell it. Why would you? Because even if
[02:06:39.980 --> 02:06:45.980]  you cash out certain, you know, gains, what are you going to do with that money? You're going to
[02:06:45.980 --> 02:06:53.660]  go back on the market and buy something with more like, you know, APR and with a higher price,
[02:06:53.660 --> 02:07:00.300]  you know, if you're going to stick to what you have, that's why there is more properties on a
[02:07:00.300 --> 02:07:06.620]  market for sale than a buyer's. But these properties, they were past the three or four
[02:07:06.620 --> 02:07:11.980]  percent interest rates. Anyone who's selling a property now, so that, you know, it's either
[02:07:11.980 --> 02:07:18.060]  refinancing from a 10 percent to six or is getting rid of it because it was just a vision for that
[02:07:18.060 --> 02:07:24.540]  individual to flip it at one point of time. Since there is a bias market and bias dictating the
[02:07:24.540 --> 02:07:30.540]  tempo, you know, the properties prices are going to go down for sure 20 to 30 percent from whatever
[02:07:30.540 --> 02:07:38.380]  it is right now. And thus buyers on the other end are going to understand that six percent, that's
[02:07:38.380 --> 02:07:44.860]  it. I can never go cheaper than that. I have to figure out how to purchase this. The biggest
[02:07:44.940 --> 02:07:53.500]  problems they are coming along are not even the prices of the properties or interest rates.
[02:07:54.140 --> 02:08:00.700]  It's insurance, the insurance prices. Yeah, especially like in California, for example.
[02:08:00.700 --> 02:08:08.140]  Yeah. Oh my God. Anything you touch, it doesn't matter if you want to injure your own puppy,
[02:08:08.140 --> 02:08:13.500]  you know, it's like 200 percent. I'm not even talking about houses because the major
[02:08:13.500 --> 02:08:19.180]  insurance companies, especially with Pacific Palisades fires and all these things that happen,
[02:08:19.180 --> 02:08:24.380]  you know, last year, they literally exodus California. It's becoming a danger zone.
[02:08:24.380 --> 02:08:29.740]  It's becoming something that they definitely going to go and bankrupt. So whoever stayed
[02:08:29.740 --> 02:08:36.700]  raised the premiums through the roof. And if you do not pay attention that even on a national,
[02:08:37.100 --> 02:08:45.340]  nationwide base, you may end up paying like double interest rates because if your house is now
[02:08:46.300 --> 02:08:52.540]  paying almost half of your mortgage on insurance, you're going to think twice if you're going to
[02:08:52.540 --> 02:08:58.780]  buy this house. Yeah. How does that compare internationally? I mean, if you go to some of
[02:08:58.780 --> 02:09:04.380]  these countries, not even in a developing area, but even in Europe, what is the insurance situation
[02:09:04.380 --> 02:09:09.260]  like there? Insurance itself, as I said, America, who the hell knows what's going to happen. And I'm
[02:09:09.260 --> 02:09:16.220]  sorry to use this world H E L L. But I think that once this whole economy kind of settled down,
[02:09:16.220 --> 02:09:19.980]  everything else is going to settle down and people are taking too much advantages. It's just one of
[02:09:19.980 --> 02:09:25.740]  those do never let the good crisis go to waste situation that the big corporations and big
[02:09:25.740 --> 02:09:31.020]  companies are. I mean, there is no reason for you to pay a thousand dollars a month on your car,
[02:09:31.260 --> 02:09:36.700]  insurance. There's no reason for that. But they don't give you an option. So at one point,
[02:09:36.700 --> 02:09:44.300]  this all has to legalize, has to come to certain terms that otherwise it won't be sustainable.
[02:09:44.940 --> 02:09:52.460]  Now, when it comes to real estate itself, as I said, it's a tree that has too many rotten apples,
[02:09:53.180 --> 02:10:02.300]  too many rules and regulations, uh, technology is going full speed. Uh, I remember even back in the
[02:10:02.300 --> 02:10:09.020]  days I mentioned in an earlier, uh, part of the interview, like something like R L N remote online
[02:10:09.020 --> 02:10:17.020]  authorization is, was taboo in most of the States because not a Republic, it's an industry on its
[02:10:17.020 --> 02:10:21.740]  own. Yeah. So they're like little guilds that they've got like a union or a guild or something
[02:10:21.740 --> 02:10:28.220]  and they protect their little, uh, territory there, right. So that's why they were making
[02:10:28.220 --> 02:10:33.820]  tons of money. And let's say, uh, I'm going to, I'm not going to give you the wrong, the wrong
[02:10:33.820 --> 02:10:41.660]  data, but let's say two years ago, out of 50 States, 31 had remote online authorization
[02:10:41.740 --> 02:10:48.780]  options because of the COVID shifted this whole technology to be, you know, acceptable. States
[02:10:48.780 --> 02:10:54.060]  didn't and that's California. So anywhere else we could have finished the deal that like I'm in
[02:10:54.060 --> 02:10:59.260]  California and you're in New York and I can buy a property like literally with a camera, like, oh,
[02:10:59.260 --> 02:11:04.940]  this is it. And in California, no present of another Republic, which means you have to fly
[02:11:04.940 --> 02:11:12.220]  from New York to do that. So technology, I think it's taking charge. And, uh, once certain rules
[02:11:12.220 --> 02:11:19.660]  and regulations come into a place, and especially with crypto situation, I think it's going to be
[02:11:19.660 --> 02:11:27.340]  parabolic because all that part of this blockchain, all the part has been built. That's not, it's not,
[02:11:27.340 --> 02:11:35.180]  it's not legit. It's just not acceptable, uh, to the society, to the, to the regulatory systems.
[02:11:35.180 --> 02:11:43.100]  Once it's set in stone, it's going to be an open market for tech to be a dominant part. And then
[02:11:43.100 --> 02:11:48.940]  brokerages and agents are going to come there as a tool. So it's going to flip the switch here. Tech
[02:11:48.940 --> 02:11:54.860]  is a tool a few years from now, agents and humans are going to be the tool towards technology.
[02:11:55.660 --> 02:12:00.460]  That's interesting. Yeah. We were talking about insurance and of course that comes into the,
[02:12:00.460 --> 02:12:06.220]  the bigger issue of affordability. And, um, you know, we have a very expensive prices here
[02:12:06.220 --> 02:12:10.540]  in America. Our insurance is very high. How does that compare to like Europe and some
[02:12:10.540 --> 02:12:15.900]  developing markets in terms of insurance? I think that the insurance in general,
[02:12:15.900 --> 02:12:21.260]  and I'm seeing some other countries, you know, it's jumped everywhere because, you know, uh,
[02:12:21.660 --> 02:12:27.500]  um, we talking about economies were tanking the, the, you know, the, the, the whole
[02:12:28.060 --> 02:12:35.260]  interest rates were jumping. So everything kind of went with it. But here in, in America, it's more
[02:12:35.260 --> 02:12:43.740]  about shares for the shareholder and price per share earnings. And the more they generate,
[02:12:43.740 --> 02:12:50.700]  the more the money the stock market is going to make. It's close to the level in Europe.
[02:12:51.740 --> 02:12:59.900]  Why? Because America has its own one system rules where in Europe, even though you're part
[02:12:59.900 --> 02:13:05.980]  of European union, every single country has their own rules and regulations. So the insurance there
[02:13:05.980 --> 02:13:12.620]  in Switzerland and the rates are not the same that are in Germany or more like, uh, let's say
[02:13:12.620 --> 02:13:18.860]  France or Portugal, they are based on the local economies here in America, even though we have
[02:13:18.860 --> 02:13:23.500]  States and they are kind of independent, but at the end of the day, certain rates, they're
[02:13:23.500 --> 02:13:29.260]  federalized and they're pushing it across the board in Europe. It's like they have to adjust
[02:13:29.260 --> 02:13:35.500]  to each other. Why saying that? Like, because if one country that's part of the union cannot keep
[02:13:35.500 --> 02:13:41.340]  up with the other country because it's less prosperous. So they are trying, they are helping
[02:13:41.340 --> 02:13:48.540]  the less prosperous country not to pull the whole European union down. And that's why the control,
[02:13:48.620 --> 02:13:55.740]  it's more towards regional aspect versus a global European or international aspects.
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[02:15:59.820 --> 02:16:08.300]  it's a tech company. Oh, okay. .io, not .com. Yeah. Okay. Well, we, from a tech perspective,
[02:16:08.300 --> 02:16:14.460]  we secure fastest way of purchasing property where you literally, if everything is intact,
[02:16:14.460 --> 02:16:20.860]  you can buy it like as if you were on Amazon buying shoes. So on both ends, like with one click
[02:16:20.860 --> 02:16:27.020]  purchase, that's our model. If we have something now in Spain, let's say in Bitsa, there is a
[02:16:27.020 --> 02:16:36.380]  property there. So what we do, we already pre-vet this property. We do inspections. We collect
[02:16:36.380 --> 02:16:42.540]  documentations from sellers. It's already done. It's like a product. We're putting it on a platform.
[02:16:42.540 --> 02:16:48.700]  So there is no reason for you now to fly to Spain to check this property. There is no reason for you
[02:16:48.700 --> 02:16:56.300]  to deal with six weeks escrow, do diligence research. We did all that prior putting it
[02:16:56.300 --> 02:17:01.580]  on a property. So the buyer comes and see, oh, this is ready to go. We are not wasting time.
[02:17:02.140 --> 02:17:09.660]  So let me conclude this transaction. And so that's one aspect, assuring that that product
[02:17:09.660 --> 02:17:15.340]  as in real estate as a product, it's ready to go because that's the only one asset in the world
[02:17:16.220 --> 02:17:24.860]  that actually it's not, there is no option to buy it as you're buying, you know, shoes.
[02:17:24.860 --> 02:17:27.660]  Right, right. It's encumbered with a lot of technicalities. Yeah.
[02:17:28.780 --> 02:17:36.060]  The reason is why, because the real estate, it's part of the local economy. It's almost a commodity.
[02:17:36.060 --> 02:17:41.500]  It's you paying taxes, you know, the government owns the land. Like there's so much there that
[02:17:41.500 --> 02:17:46.300]  you cannot just buy real estate. Oh, you have to do background check. We're doing AMA,
[02:17:46.300 --> 02:17:52.620]  anti-money laundry, KYC, knowing your customers. So even our buyers have to be known so we can make
[02:17:52.620 --> 02:18:00.620]  it much, much easier for the seller to accept that transactional purchase. And so we open these doors
[02:18:00.620 --> 02:18:06.140]  that people go around, they come to us. Okay, let's let us close this transaction to you guys
[02:18:06.140 --> 02:18:11.420]  because you have so to say troops on the ground in Spain helping us out that we do not have to
[02:18:11.420 --> 02:18:17.100]  fly to Spain to actually check the property. Someone over there, it's going to do all these
[02:18:17.100 --> 02:18:24.140]  things for us, all the diligence, all the, all that's necessary of this transaction. And I'm
[02:18:24.140 --> 02:18:31.740]  still here in California. Now we went so far that like you don't even have to ever fly to Spain to
[02:18:31.740 --> 02:18:38.940]  buy these properties. If you want, we can do all the documentations online for you. But if you will,
[02:18:39.020 --> 02:18:43.900]  that's the icing on the cake. You go there to pick up your keys so you don't have to fly
[02:18:43.900 --> 02:18:49.500]  going back and forth and waste time. Not just that. Whenever you go to Europe, whenever you
[02:18:49.500 --> 02:18:53.900]  go to any other countries, most of the time you go on vacation, you're not going to go and spend
[02:18:53.900 --> 02:18:59.740]  two or three weeks looking for properties. You go there to relax. And when you go back, you never
[02:18:59.740 --> 02:19:05.500]  went to any country as a tourist and say, Oh my God, how many days we have? Four. Let's just go
[02:19:05.500 --> 02:19:11.980]  buy something. These things don't happen. You go back and you say, I love Spain. I want to go back
[02:19:11.980 --> 02:19:16.940]  there. I want us to leave. What's the next step? And then the steps is like, Oh, let me call some
[02:19:16.940 --> 02:19:22.540]  local agents in Spain. Most of these ages, or maybe even speak English. And you just, this whole
[02:19:22.540 --> 02:19:29.180]  dream of moving abroad collapses for you. It's becoming too complicated. But with us, we do all
[02:19:29.180 --> 02:19:35.260]  the diligence prior. We're assisting and helping you as the buyer have the smoothest possible
[02:19:36.060 --> 02:19:40.620]  concept available. That's very interesting. There's one other thing too, in terms of
[02:19:40.620 --> 02:19:44.620]  affordability. One of the trends that we see happening here in the United States is there's
[02:19:44.620 --> 02:19:53.260]  a lot of states and a lot of talk by politicians about eliminating property taxes. And what is the
[02:19:53.260 --> 02:19:58.300]  property tax situation that you typically see, let's say in the EU? Are they pretty high, I would
[02:19:58.300 --> 02:20:05.420]  imagine? Each country has their own rules and regulations. Each country has their own taxes.
[02:20:05.420 --> 02:20:10.220]  Each country has their own availability or allowance. Who can purchase properties?
[02:20:10.860 --> 02:20:20.700]  So there is no general rule. And to be honest with you, with that said, even the way and timelines,
[02:20:20.700 --> 02:20:29.420]  how long can it take for you to actually purchase property are not set in stone.
[02:20:31.980 --> 02:20:38.140]  The taxes in Switzerland are much more different than the taxes in Germany.
[02:20:40.460 --> 02:20:44.940]  The regulations are different. Let's say if you want to buy properties in Switzerland,
[02:20:44.940 --> 02:20:48.940]  even though Switzerland is not part of the European Union, but let's just say it has the same
[02:20:49.500 --> 02:20:55.500]  structure, you cannot be just an individual. They don't want to deflate the market. They
[02:20:55.500 --> 02:21:01.180]  don't want to work with flipping properties like you're doing in America. You buy one day,
[02:21:01.180 --> 02:21:12.380]  sell it tomorrow. They are all protective towards their own society. And speaking,
[02:21:12.380 --> 02:21:18.460]  let's say, of Israel, it's becoming so difficult. Okay, regardless of the current situation,
[02:21:18.540 --> 02:21:23.340]  but even prior to that, in order for you to purchase something in Israel, and I'm, you know,
[02:21:23.340 --> 02:21:27.500]  I would be wrong exactly the concept. I know everything top of my head. You have to send money
[02:21:27.500 --> 02:21:34.620]  to three different parties. You have to send, you know, partial purchase goes to a seller.
[02:21:34.620 --> 02:21:42.700]  Partial purchase goes to someone who is something like escrow. It's between a notary public and a
[02:21:42.700 --> 02:21:47.100]  lawyer. And a partial purchase goes to the government. And then you ask yourself why the
[02:21:47.100 --> 02:21:53.740]  government? Because the government has to collect taxes, but they don't have a fixed tax system.
[02:21:53.740 --> 02:21:58.380]  So they're going to keep that money until they figure out how much the seller actually owes them
[02:21:58.940 --> 02:22:07.020]  money. So situations like these just push the buyer away because it's becoming too complicated.
[02:22:07.020 --> 02:22:10.460]  The good thing is that many of these countries, as I said, offer incentives
[02:22:11.420 --> 02:22:19.020]  through these taxes. And it's helpful because it makes you think twice where you should spend
[02:22:19.020 --> 02:22:27.260]  your money or your retirement money on, you know, before you say, it's about time for me to stop
[02:22:27.260 --> 02:22:32.620]  with work. Yeah, yeah. Well, that is something that is becoming increasingly common, I think,
[02:22:32.620 --> 02:22:38.140]  for Americans to start looking abroad in terms of how they can afford to live after they retire.
[02:22:38.140 --> 02:22:43.100]  But as you point out, it's a very complicated system. And that really is interesting that
[02:22:43.100 --> 02:22:49.500]  you've stepped into that as a information resource and kind of a sherpa, I guess,
[02:22:50.140 --> 02:22:54.940]  if somebody's going to take a long journey. That's a very important service. Yeah.
[02:22:54.940 --> 02:23:01.820]  That's if I may just, you know, you know, cut you off. We mentioned casinos. We mentioned
[02:23:01.820 --> 02:23:07.820]  shopping centers. You mentioned stuff like that. And it's out there that it's 20 cents,
[02:23:07.820 --> 02:23:13.420]  30 cents on a dollar. They need buyers. And now talking about something like that,
[02:23:13.420 --> 02:23:19.020]  it's not limited to just a group of people. There could be syndication of us buying something in
[02:23:19.020 --> 02:23:26.300]  Europe that can actually be our investment, not just our place to go and leave or to potentially
[02:23:26.300 --> 02:23:31.900]  putting on Airbnb. But you sit here, you're limited what you have in front of you,
[02:23:32.940 --> 02:23:38.300]  what you have in your vicinity. You may eventually change the state, you know,
[02:23:38.300 --> 02:23:43.420]  because you still want to go and check it out back and forth. But buying a casino in Cyprus,
[02:23:44.140 --> 02:23:50.700]  like, you know, which is between Greece and Turkey. And it's amazing deal. Even if you want it,
[02:23:50.780 --> 02:23:56.220]  it was like, you know, damn, how am I going to do that? You know, they have deals,
[02:23:56.220 --> 02:24:02.540]  especially after Corona, when, you know, they destroyed the whole market. They were abandoned
[02:24:02.540 --> 02:24:09.820]  hotels, abandoned shopping centers, that they would love to sell to someone. But the capital
[02:24:09.820 --> 02:24:13.900]  is limited in Europe. So this is where we're opening a door even for commercial real estate.
[02:24:13.900 --> 02:24:20.060]  Hey, what do you need? You know, we buy it for closures, abandoned projects. This is where these
[02:24:20.700 --> 02:24:28.540]  major key is that like, residential buyers, an average Joe can potentially buy because it's
[02:24:28.540 --> 02:24:35.980]  cheaper. I hate this word cheaper, more affordable in Europe. In Europe, you can buy I mean, I'm not
[02:24:35.980 --> 02:24:41.900]  even kidding. In Europe, you can buy a hotel in Athens, Greece for $4 million that already is
[02:24:41.900 --> 02:24:49.180]  working well and generating you return on investment. Stuff like that. It's so appealing. I mean,
[02:24:49.180 --> 02:24:54.700]  what's $4 million for, you know, people to take a loan, a couple of friends and buy a hotel? I
[02:24:54.700 --> 02:25:00.140]  mean, it's everyone's dream and then even move there or just rent it out. But you just how am
[02:25:00.140 --> 02:25:05.260]  I going to do that? That's the biggest concept. Yeah, that's amazing. Well, thank you so much
[02:25:05.260 --> 02:25:10.300]  for joining us. It really has been fascinating to kind of get a picture of that. And again,
[02:25:10.300 --> 02:25:23.580]  the company is I M M O B I L I U M and Mobilium and I o.io. Yes, thank you so much. Sasha Paparek,
[02:25:23.580 --> 02:25:28.300]  thank you so much for joining us and giving us a view of what's happening in the rest of the world
[02:25:28.300 --> 02:25:33.820]  as we look at real estate and economies that are happening there. Thank you so much. It was nice
[02:25:34.540 --> 02:25:42.140]  being invited. I love your studio, you know, environment. It looks amazing. I'm listening
[02:25:42.140 --> 02:25:48.220]  you and you're much more pleasant. So to say almost like in virtual person than like
[02:25:48.780 --> 02:25:53.420]  just listening. Well, thank you very much. I appreciate that. Have a good day. Thank you.
[02:25:53.420 --> 02:25:57.980]  Well, certainly technology is changing everything is changing it at a very quick pace. And I want
[02:25:57.980 --> 02:26:02.940]  to get his perspective as somebody who knows the American market, but also knows other markets and
[02:26:02.940 --> 02:26:06.940]  has that perspective. We're going to see these institutions that have been around for a very
[02:26:06.940 --> 02:26:13.100]  long time. They've outgrown. Well, not outgrown, but the technology has outgrown the way that we
[02:26:13.100 --> 02:26:17.260]  actually buy and sell houses. So we're going to see a lot of change in that. But the bottom line is
[02:26:17.820 --> 02:26:22.460]  Clash Schwab has got it right. You will own nothing as long as you've got property taxes.
[02:26:22.460 --> 02:26:27.900]  That's one thing that we need to work on here in America to make sure we actually can own property
[02:26:27.980 --> 02:26:32.220]  or they will take it from us with that. So I hope you found that interesting.
[02:26:32.220 --> 02:26:34.220]  Thank you for joining us. Have a good weekend.
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[02:26:48.780 --> 02:26:55.020]  They created common core dumb down our children. They created common past track and control us
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