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[01:05.480 --> 01:08.040]  Joining us now is G. Edward Griffin,
[01:08.040 --> 01:10.160]  a real giant in the Liberty movement.
[01:10.160 --> 01:12.480]  He's done so many monumental works.
[01:12.480 --> 01:14.400]  Of course, everybody knows Creature from Jekyll Island,
[01:14.400 --> 01:16.360]  but we wanted to also talk to him today
[01:16.360 --> 01:19.120]  about his book, A World Without Cancer,
[01:19.120 --> 01:21.040]  because I think that's a message
[01:21.040 --> 01:23.640]  that people are ready to hear
[01:23.640 --> 01:26.200]  after what we've been through for the last four years.
[01:26.200 --> 01:27.720]  But we've now seen, I think,
[01:27.760 --> 01:30.720]  really a convergence in medical, financial, and political,
[01:30.720 --> 01:34.280]  because it's all being swallowed up by the political stuff.
[01:34.280 --> 01:36.680]  But great to have G. Edward Griffin on.
[01:36.680 --> 01:38.880]  Thank you so much for joining us, sir.
[01:38.880 --> 01:39.720]  Boys, my pleasure.
[01:39.720 --> 01:40.760]  Thanks for inviting me.
[01:40.760 --> 01:43.000]  And I wanna talk also about the Red Pill Expo
[01:43.000 --> 01:45.060]  that's gonna be coming up in just a couple of weeks as well,
[01:45.060 --> 01:46.920]  so give you a chance to talk about that
[01:46.920 --> 01:48.380]  and what's happening with that.
[01:48.380 --> 01:51.520]  But your work is very well known by a lot of people,
[01:51.520 --> 01:53.660]  and we're gonna try to get into maybe,
[01:54.960 --> 01:57.480]  the medical aspect of this is maybe not as well known
[01:57.480 --> 01:58.320]  as the Federal Reserve,
[01:58.320 --> 01:59.840]  but we do wanna talk about the financial stuff.
[01:59.840 --> 02:01.880]  That's very important right now.
[02:01.880 --> 02:03.400]  But I think it'd be good for us
[02:03.400 --> 02:04.840]  to talk about your biography.
[02:04.840 --> 02:09.840]  How did you get into doing documentaries and books
[02:09.840 --> 02:14.080]  and especially in terms of going against the grain
[02:14.080 --> 02:15.480]  of conventional wisdom?
[02:15.480 --> 02:17.480]  Tell us a little bit about your background.
[02:18.760 --> 02:23.080]  Well, it's a long background, of course,
[02:23.080 --> 02:24.960]  considering my age and all that.
[02:24.960 --> 02:29.360]  And it's probably not very interesting.
[02:29.360 --> 02:32.040]  It's rather boring, actually.
[02:32.040 --> 02:33.200]  Yeah, you're correct.
[02:34.280 --> 02:35.480]  We've covered some ground
[02:35.480 --> 02:39.400]  and made some amazing touch points along the way,
[02:39.400 --> 02:42.400]  but I think it's only because we've been at it for so long.
[02:44.960 --> 02:49.480]  My life has been pretty much normal in the sense,
[02:49.480 --> 02:53.280]  by normal, I'm almost afraid or embarrassed to say normal
[02:53.280 --> 02:55.080]  because unfortunately,
[02:55.080 --> 02:57.240]  what is normal out there in the world today
[02:57.240 --> 02:58.920]  is not particularly attractive.
[03:00.920 --> 03:04.360]  An abnormal world, a normal person in an abnormal world.
[03:04.360 --> 03:08.180]  Yeah, well, I mean, it's not unusual, I guess I should say.
[03:09.080 --> 03:12.280]  In that, I would start out in one direction
[03:12.280 --> 03:16.160]  and be confronted by some impossible barrier
[03:16.160 --> 03:18.220]  or setback or tragedy.
[03:18.220 --> 03:21.560]  And it would be life changing for me
[03:21.560 --> 03:26.560]  and very uncomfortable, very painful, very frightening.
[03:27.720 --> 03:31.200]  But in retrospect, as the time goes by,
[03:31.200 --> 03:33.960]  I find out that that was the best thing
[03:33.960 --> 03:35.440]  that ever happened to me
[03:35.440 --> 03:38.600]  because it forced me to do a right turn
[03:38.600 --> 03:41.440]  or change my direction substantially.
[03:41.440 --> 03:42.760]  And even though it was painful
[03:42.760 --> 03:46.860]  and I had to abandon my original plans and expectations,
[03:47.920 --> 03:50.400]  I found out that it was a better direction
[03:50.400 --> 03:52.840]  than the one I was on originally.
[03:52.840 --> 03:54.600]  And my life is full of that.
[03:54.600 --> 03:56.760]  And some of those tragedies along the way
[03:56.760 --> 03:59.640]  were very serious illnesses too.
[03:59.640 --> 04:04.080]  I was still very young, I was in my early 30s
[04:04.080 --> 04:07.320]  and I had a wife and a couple of kids to support
[04:07.320 --> 04:08.520]  and I had a collapse.
[04:08.520 --> 04:13.520]  And I had two doctors tell me I had multiple sclerosis.
[04:15.200 --> 04:17.320]  I didn't really know for sure what that was.
[04:17.320 --> 04:19.080]  I knew it was bad.
[04:19.080 --> 04:21.920]  But when I looked it up in the encyclopedia,
[04:21.920 --> 04:26.360]  I decided, oh man, this is a bad way to go out the door.
[04:26.360 --> 04:29.120]  And I thought I was dying, of course.
[04:29.120 --> 04:30.880]  But it was a misdiagnosis.
[04:30.880 --> 04:32.660]  I had exhausted myself.
[04:35.960 --> 04:38.640]  I thought I was carrying the world on my shoulders.
[04:38.640 --> 04:41.280]  I thought I had to save the world all by myself.
[04:41.280 --> 04:44.480]  And so I was not getting a lot of sleep.
[04:44.480 --> 04:45.720]  I was a young guy, of course.
[04:45.720 --> 04:48.920]  I was doing a lot of traveling, making presentations,
[04:49.760 --> 04:51.000]  training sessions, all that kind of thing.
[04:51.000 --> 04:53.140]  So I would go from one town to the next
[04:53.140 --> 04:56.360]  and drive a good portion of the day to get there.
[04:56.360 --> 04:58.040]  Get there and then be taken out to dinner
[04:58.040 --> 05:00.680]  and then put on an evening presentation
[05:00.680 --> 05:03.040]  and then meet at somebody's house afterwards.
[05:05.040 --> 05:06.440]  And what kind of presentations were you doing?
[05:06.440 --> 05:07.640]  Was this political?
[05:07.640 --> 05:11.400]  Well, these were recruiting meetings.
[05:11.400 --> 05:13.520]  I was, at that time, I was a coordinator
[05:13.520 --> 05:15.760]  for the John Birch Society.
[05:15.760 --> 05:17.320]  I know that scares a lot of people.
[05:17.400 --> 05:19.360]  I think that's a WACO organization.
[05:20.360 --> 05:21.680]  No, not me.
[05:22.520 --> 05:23.360]  Well, good.
[05:23.360 --> 05:26.560]  Anyway, to me, they're very, very calm
[05:26.560 --> 05:29.120]  and very not WACO at all.
[05:29.120 --> 05:31.480]  Of course, they have some WACOs in there,
[05:31.480 --> 05:34.480]  but the percentage of WACOs in the Birch Society,
[05:34.480 --> 05:36.760]  I thought, was smaller than the percentage
[05:36.760 --> 05:38.560]  outside of the Birch Society.
[05:38.560 --> 05:41.760]  That's right, they're gonna be everywhere, yeah.
[05:41.760 --> 05:43.760]  Yeah, that was the safest place to be.
[05:45.000 --> 05:46.480]  But anyway, that's what I was doing.
[05:47.440 --> 05:48.960]  So I was drinking.
[05:48.960 --> 05:50.760]  Everybody would wanna buy me some wine
[05:50.760 --> 05:54.480]  and we'd drink wine and talk about life
[05:54.480 --> 05:56.320]  and the world events and so forth.
[05:56.320 --> 05:59.000]  And then I'd get to bed late at night
[05:59.000 --> 06:00.880]  or early in the morning, get up in the morning
[06:00.880 --> 06:02.480]  and drive it and do that over and over again.
[06:02.480 --> 06:04.640]  I came back and I was planting some trees
[06:04.640 --> 06:08.160]  in my front yard and I just froze up.
[06:08.160 --> 06:13.160]  I became paralyzed and to make a long story short, I was...
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[07:14.520 --> 07:18.400]  I had just exhausted my physical strength,
[07:18.400 --> 07:21.120]  malnutrition, toxic elements in my body,
[07:21.120 --> 07:24.280]  not enough sleep and a bad mental attitude,
[07:24.280 --> 07:29.280]  always filled with anxiety and all the bad things.
[07:30.520 --> 07:32.920]  And I hadn't realized, I didn't think I had to worry
[07:32.920 --> 07:35.120]  about that because I was young, right?
[07:35.120 --> 07:36.680]  Young people don't get sick.
[07:37.680 --> 07:41.440]  So anyway, they diagnosed it as multiple sclerosis.
[07:41.440 --> 07:43.120]  It turned out not to be that.
[07:43.120 --> 07:47.440]  Once I got off of my routine and started to find out
[07:47.440 --> 07:51.040]  what this world was all about in terms of nutrition
[07:51.040 --> 07:55.240]  and rest and avoiding toxic things in your body
[07:55.240 --> 07:58.120]  and in your environment and so forth,
[07:58.120 --> 08:00.160]  I recovered rather rapidly.
[08:00.160 --> 08:02.560]  So in retrospect, it was very good
[08:02.560 --> 08:05.240]  because I learned how to live
[08:05.280 --> 08:08.320]  and I probably wouldn't be alive today
[08:08.320 --> 08:11.520]  if I hadn't learned that lesson early in my life.
[08:11.520 --> 08:15.880]  At the same time, I was really pretty well stuck in bed
[08:15.880 --> 08:17.720]  and I didn't know I could write.
[08:17.720 --> 08:20.600]  I had gone to school, I had learned,
[08:20.600 --> 08:22.320]  I'd learned about communications.
[08:22.320 --> 08:24.920]  I would stage plays.
[08:24.920 --> 08:26.800]  I was an actor, a little child actor.
[08:26.800 --> 08:28.800]  You can imagine anything worse than that.
[08:30.440 --> 08:31.640]  I did a lot of reading.
[08:31.640 --> 08:34.240]  I can imagine it being a lot worse today.
[08:34.240 --> 08:35.920]  Well, I don't know, it was pretty bad.
[08:35.920 --> 08:37.320]  I was right in the middle of that.
[08:37.320 --> 08:41.840]  And I was in Detroit and we did radio in those days.
[08:41.840 --> 08:44.520]  And a lot of shows came out of Detroit,
[08:44.520 --> 08:49.080]  the Ford Theater and the Hermits Cave.
[08:49.080 --> 08:51.280]  And we had a Saturday show,
[08:51.280 --> 08:54.560]  it was the same as Let's Pretend and we covered.
[08:54.560 --> 08:56.240]  Anyway, I did a lot of radio stuff
[08:56.240 --> 08:59.960]  and I went to school and took more of the same.
[08:59.960 --> 09:02.960]  Television was just coming online in those days.
[09:02.960 --> 09:05.520]  So I was taking courses in television
[09:05.520 --> 09:06.840]  and radio communications.
[09:06.840 --> 09:08.000]  Let me ask you a question real quick.
[09:08.000 --> 09:10.960]  Your radio, I guess that was live radio performances.
[09:10.960 --> 09:12.280]  Oh yeah, right.
[09:12.280 --> 09:13.880]  That's really interesting stuff.
[09:13.880 --> 09:16.520]  I love listening to the live things like that.
[09:16.520 --> 09:17.360]  Yeah, it was.
[09:17.360 --> 09:18.880]  I worked my way through college
[09:18.880 --> 09:22.400]  as a radio announcer for WUOM,
[09:22.400 --> 09:25.080]  which was the university radio station
[09:25.080 --> 09:29.680]  at the University of Michigan and all of that.
[09:29.680 --> 09:30.680]  So I was into that.
[09:30.680 --> 09:34.400]  So when I got sick, I thought,
[09:34.400 --> 09:36.760]  well, I'm not gonna be able to make a living.
[09:36.760 --> 09:38.480]  I couldn't get out of bed for the most part,
[09:38.480 --> 09:41.760]  had to practically crawl from one room to the other.
[09:41.760 --> 09:44.520]  And so I got this call from a publisher and he said,
[09:44.520 --> 09:46.960]  Ed, I understand you've been giving speeches
[09:46.960 --> 09:51.520]  on the United Nations and they're very well received.
[09:51.520 --> 09:54.720]  Would you like to write a book for us on that topic?
[09:54.720 --> 09:57.680]  We wanna publish a book and we think you could do it.
[09:57.680 --> 10:01.120]  And of course, at that time, I had never written anything
[10:01.120 --> 10:04.960]  and that was not my, I did not identify as an author.
[10:06.240 --> 10:09.880]  I identified as a communicator on television
[10:09.880 --> 10:11.840]  or radio or something like that.
[10:11.840 --> 10:14.600]  And my dream was to go to Hollywood
[10:14.600 --> 10:18.760]  and become a great Hollywood producer in motion pictures.
[10:18.760 --> 10:20.560]  So when this guy called me and said,
[10:20.560 --> 10:22.000]  how would you like to write a book?
[10:22.000 --> 10:24.600]  That was the last thing I felt I was capable
[10:24.600 --> 10:27.080]  or interested in doing.
[10:27.080 --> 10:29.360]  But I thought instantly about how, wow,
[10:29.360 --> 10:31.800]  he's offering me some money and here I am in bed,
[10:31.800 --> 10:35.680]  I can't do anything else to support my family
[10:35.680 --> 10:37.240]  and we're running out of money.
[10:37.240 --> 10:40.920]  And so I found myself saying, oh yeah, no problem.
[10:40.920 --> 10:42.920]  Yeah, sure, I could do that.
[10:42.920 --> 10:46.840]  I'm in that kind of situation as well.
[10:46.840 --> 10:49.360]  God puts us in a position where you got one way out
[10:49.360 --> 10:50.200]  and that's it.
[10:50.200 --> 10:51.040]  One way out.
[10:51.040 --> 10:53.200]  Something that you would have chosen to do, yeah.
[10:53.200 --> 10:54.800]  So I just use that as an example.
[10:54.800 --> 10:57.240]  So I took on the commitment
[10:57.240 --> 11:00.120]  and I started to do my hard research.
[11:00.120 --> 11:01.320]  I had done a lot of it already,
[11:01.320 --> 11:04.560]  but I knew that in a book you had to document everything.
[11:04.560 --> 11:06.600]  It wasn't just, you could say, well, I know this
[11:06.600 --> 11:07.960]  and I know that.
[11:07.960 --> 11:11.040]  So I did research that lasted about probably two
[11:11.040 --> 11:13.760]  or three months of putting all the documents together.
[11:13.760 --> 11:18.040]  And then the day came when it was time to write.
[11:18.040 --> 11:20.600]  And it was kind of like looking at an old movie
[11:20.600 --> 11:22.480]  where everybody's seen those scenes
[11:22.480 --> 11:24.920]  where the author has to write something
[11:24.920 --> 11:27.280]  and he's on a typewriter and he types a few lines
[11:27.280 --> 11:29.720]  and he pulls the paper out, crushes it
[11:29.720 --> 11:30.840]  and throws it on the floor.
[11:30.840 --> 11:31.760]  And that's no good.
[11:31.760 --> 11:33.080]  And then this is no good.
[11:33.080 --> 11:35.480]  I went through that in spades.
[11:35.480 --> 11:38.040]  All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy, right?
[11:39.040 --> 11:39.880]  It was shiny.
[11:39.880 --> 11:40.720]  To write something.
[11:40.720 --> 11:42.560]  I was using a pencil.
[11:42.560 --> 11:45.240]  We didn't have computers in those days and I couldn't type.
[11:45.240 --> 11:46.280]  So I was writing things out
[11:46.280 --> 11:47.920]  and I would tear it up and throw it out.
[11:47.920 --> 11:50.800]  It was just, I couldn't, I can't write, I can't write.
[11:50.800 --> 11:51.840]  Give me a microphone.
[11:53.440 --> 11:57.960]  So then there's a point, an end to this.
[11:57.960 --> 11:59.520]  So finally I said, I'm just gonna write,
[11:59.520 --> 12:00.640]  Mary Had a Little Lamb.
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[12:02.400 --> 12:04.880]  And first thing, you know, I had this idea.
[12:04.880 --> 12:09.560]  I can't write this because how do you approach a topic
[12:09.560 --> 12:14.200]  so huge as the, this was my book on the United Nations.
[12:14.200 --> 12:17.240]  My first book is called The Fearful Master,
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[12:31.760 --> 12:33.840]  It's like having to move a mountain.
[12:33.840 --> 12:35.840]  How do you move a mountain?
[12:35.840 --> 12:38.320]  And then I found myself writing, well.
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[13:42.320 --> 13:46.200]  And then this is my first spade.
[13:46.200 --> 13:48.640]  And I looked at it, I said, well, that's kind of clever.
[13:48.640 --> 13:51.000]  And the first thing I know, I extended that.
[13:51.000 --> 13:54.000]  And the next few pages came pretty fast.
[13:54.000 --> 13:55.400]  And by the time I got to page seven,
[13:55.400 --> 13:56.880]  it was roaring along.
[13:58.480 --> 14:01.920]  I found out, I wound up, I looked in the wall,
[14:01.920 --> 14:04.320]  at the wall, I said, my gosh, I can write.
[14:04.320 --> 14:06.120]  And I'm having fun doing it.
[14:06.120 --> 14:07.760]  So I use that as an example.
[14:07.760 --> 14:10.080]  I wouldn't be here talking to you today
[14:10.080 --> 14:12.600]  if I hadn't had this illness.
[14:12.600 --> 14:14.600]  And that event that forced me,
[14:14.600 --> 14:17.640]  forced me to make a right turn in my,
[14:17.640 --> 14:19.800]  where I thought was my career path.
[14:19.800 --> 14:22.080]  And at that time, I didn't think I was gonna live anyway.
[14:22.080 --> 14:24.640]  But so it forced me to make a change
[14:24.640 --> 14:28.120]  that affected my whole life, I hope for the better.
[14:28.120 --> 14:29.280]  You know, that's a great story.
[14:29.280 --> 14:31.920]  We've had so many people when they lost,
[14:31.920 --> 14:33.200]  they were faced with a decision,
[14:33.200 --> 14:35.000]  take the shot or lose your job.
[14:35.000 --> 14:37.720]  And I've talked to so many people who had that crisis.
[14:37.720 --> 14:39.000]  It's like, what do I do?
[14:39.000 --> 14:40.560]  I've trained all my life for this.
[14:40.560 --> 14:41.720]  I don't have any other alternative,
[14:41.720 --> 14:43.480]  but I'm not gonna take that shot.
[14:43.480 --> 14:46.520]  And to a man that has been, or a woman,
[14:46.520 --> 14:49.600]  that has been, every person I've talked to about that,
[14:49.600 --> 14:51.440]  it's been a wonderful turning point for them.
[14:51.440 --> 14:53.000]  And so I think your life lesson,
[14:53.000 --> 14:54.080]  as well as a lot of other people,
[14:54.080 --> 14:56.720]  that's a real important life lesson, I think.
[14:56.720 --> 14:57.560]  Well, then it is.
[14:57.560 --> 14:59.960]  And that's why I said it's, in a way, I'm very normal,
[14:59.960 --> 15:02.760]  because what I just said, although it's dramatic,
[15:02.760 --> 15:04.520]  for me it was dramatic,
[15:04.520 --> 15:06.800]  everybody goes through those crises, I think.
[15:06.800 --> 15:11.800]  Maybe they don't think about it as having made a big change.
[15:12.120 --> 15:15.880]  I suppose not every change in the direction
[15:15.880 --> 15:18.480]  is that dramatic, but most of them,
[15:18.480 --> 15:21.240]  or many of them are, the important ones are.
[15:21.240 --> 15:23.720]  So with that as a background,
[15:23.720 --> 15:25.080]  I started off in one direction.
[15:25.080 --> 15:27.080]  All of a sudden I'm writing,
[15:27.080 --> 15:30.320]  and I decided I wanted to go off on my own.
[15:30.320 --> 15:33.920]  I decided I wanted to do,
[15:35.480 --> 15:37.560]  I wanted to reach out to a lot of people,
[15:37.560 --> 15:39.040]  and I wanted to use my skills
[15:39.040 --> 15:41.840]  that I had acquired in communications.
[15:41.840 --> 15:44.080]  So I decided to produce some very low-budget
[15:44.080 --> 15:47.520]  documentary films on important issues.
[15:47.520 --> 15:52.200]  And the first attempt was to write something
[15:52.200 --> 15:56.440]  on a documentary film on money and inflation.
[15:56.440 --> 15:58.600]  And then, of course, that led me, obliquely,
[15:58.600 --> 16:00.920]  to the topic of the Federal Reserve System.
[16:00.920 --> 16:04.760]  And I'm off on money now, and I had no idea
[16:04.760 --> 16:07.800]  how much voltage was in the wire
[16:07.800 --> 16:10.000]  that I was about to grab hold of on that one.
[16:10.000 --> 16:15.000]  And if I had even an inkling of how deep that topic goes
[16:18.000 --> 16:21.280]  and how broad it is, how many things it covers,
[16:21.280 --> 16:26.280]  and how profoundly important it is to our lives,
[16:27.200 --> 16:32.200]  and our liberty, our lifestyle, everything,
[16:32.200 --> 16:33.440]  I would never have tackled it
[16:33.440 --> 16:36.720]  because it was far beyond my reach.
[16:38.040 --> 16:39.600]  I'm the last person in the world
[16:39.600 --> 16:41.840]  to write about things like that.
[16:41.840 --> 16:44.040]  I'm a kid that was a child actor, you know?
[16:45.360 --> 16:46.480]  Well, that makes the question,
[16:46.480 --> 16:48.560]  how did you, you're working with,
[16:48.560 --> 16:50.520]  before you started writing,
[16:50.520 --> 16:51.880]  and before you wrote that book on the UN,
[16:51.880 --> 16:55.240]  you were also lecturing about UN and other things like that.
[16:55.240 --> 16:58.560]  How did you get into working for the John Birch Society,
[16:58.560 --> 17:01.640]  or how did you begin to be skeptical
[17:01.640 --> 17:05.480]  about what the UN's purposes and agenda were?
[17:05.480 --> 17:07.680]  Well, that's another story similar
[17:08.560 --> 17:09.960]  to the one I just mentioned.
[17:10.960 --> 17:12.920]  I was working for a large corporation.
[17:12.920 --> 17:14.400]  I was in the corporate world.
[17:14.400 --> 17:17.080]  I had found out the hard way
[17:17.080 --> 17:20.560]  that Hollywood wasn't waiting for me to show up.
[17:20.560 --> 17:25.240]  I had gone there, and I was, you know,
[17:25.240 --> 17:26.360]  wanted to make my splash.
[17:26.360 --> 17:29.280]  I wanted to get a job with some production company,
[17:29.280 --> 17:31.760]  and I was looking for the grand opening,
[17:31.760 --> 17:33.040]  and it wasn't happening.
[17:33.040 --> 17:35.520]  And I looked around realistically,
[17:35.520 --> 17:37.960]  and I saw that all these young people there,
[17:37.960 --> 17:42.960]  the guys and gals, had talent superior to mine, really.
[17:43.960 --> 17:47.400]  And they were busing tables and washing cars,
[17:47.400 --> 17:49.600]  waiting for the big chance in Hollywood.
[17:49.600 --> 17:53.560]  And then I began to get a sense of the corruption
[17:53.560 --> 17:57.400]  that is in Hollywood, and the lifestyle,
[17:57.400 --> 18:00.360]  and all of the evil things that were there
[18:00.360 --> 18:02.120]  that I didn't like at all.
[18:02.120 --> 18:04.880]  And it became clear that if you didn't tolerate
[18:04.880 --> 18:07.200]  those things, or if you didn't participate
[18:07.200 --> 18:09.400]  in those things, your chances of getting
[18:09.400 --> 18:11.560]  that big break were pretty small.
[18:11.560 --> 18:13.880]  So I quit all that, and I went to work
[18:13.880 --> 18:16.280]  for a large insurance company,
[18:16.280 --> 18:19.320]  and I got a job in an underwriting department
[18:19.320 --> 18:20.840]  preparing group insurance plans
[18:20.840 --> 18:23.200]  for corporations and that kind of thing.
[18:23.200 --> 18:26.840]  So that's what I was doing when I decided
[18:26.840 --> 18:30.000]  to start speaking out on topics.
[18:30.000 --> 18:31.600]  And the reason I made that change
[18:31.600 --> 18:33.960]  is that I don't know who it was,
[18:33.960 --> 18:38.960]  but somebody handed me or sent me a little blue pamphlet
[18:38.960 --> 18:41.120]  called The Truth About the United Nations.
[18:41.120 --> 18:43.040]  I think that was the title.
[18:43.040 --> 18:44.800]  I thought the United Nations, well I...
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[19:45.440 --> 19:46.280]  Gone to school.
[19:46.280 --> 19:47.800]  I've been to the university.
[19:47.800 --> 19:50.160]  I knew all about the United Nations.
[19:50.160 --> 19:51.000]  It was wonderful.
[19:51.000 --> 19:55.720]  It was our last best hope for peace, they told me.
[19:55.720 --> 19:57.480]  And I thought it was true.
[19:57.480 --> 20:00.680]  And so I was very much in favor of the UN
[20:00.680 --> 20:03.680]  and as a means of avoiding war.
[20:03.680 --> 20:05.800]  And about what year was that?
[20:05.800 --> 20:09.160]  That was 1960.
[20:09.160 --> 20:10.320]  Okay.
[20:10.320 --> 20:12.040]  Maybe 1959.
[20:12.040 --> 20:15.880]  Probably that pamphlet was in 1959.
[20:15.880 --> 20:17.360]  Anyway, so I read the pamphlet
[20:18.360 --> 20:20.680]  and I was incensed by it.
[20:20.680 --> 20:22.160]  I thought, well, this is ridiculous.
[20:22.160 --> 20:23.600]  I know better.
[20:23.600 --> 20:28.600]  But the things it said were hard for me to believe
[20:28.680 --> 20:30.080]  that these people were lying.
[20:32.720 --> 20:34.000]  That's how naive.
[20:34.000 --> 20:35.960]  You come out of school, how naive can you be
[20:35.960 --> 20:38.040]  to think that your teachers would be lying
[20:38.040 --> 20:40.520]  or the people who would write books might even be lying?
[20:40.520 --> 20:42.280]  It's hard for us to believe that about other people.
[20:42.280 --> 20:43.840]  We wanna believe the best of them
[20:43.840 --> 20:45.960]  and we wanna think that they're like us.
[20:45.960 --> 20:48.040]  And so we always overestimate their morals
[20:48.040 --> 20:50.520]  and we underestimate their technology, don't we?
[20:50.520 --> 20:52.280]  We certainly do, yeah.
[20:52.280 --> 20:54.440]  And of course, we're trained to do that.
[20:54.440 --> 20:55.880]  I went through the public school system
[20:55.880 --> 20:57.400]  and that was, I found out later,
[20:57.400 --> 21:01.200]  one of its primary objectives is to create that attitude
[21:01.200 --> 21:02.840]  in the minds of the students.
[21:02.840 --> 21:05.320]  So they had succeeded and I found it,
[21:06.240 --> 21:08.680]  I was highly indignant over this pamphlet
[21:08.680 --> 21:10.680]  written by a college professor, no less.
[21:10.680 --> 21:12.560]  You'd expect he would know better, right?
[21:13.720 --> 21:16.000]  Anyway, one day I went down to the library
[21:16.000 --> 21:18.040]  in downtown Los Angeles.
[21:18.040 --> 21:20.840]  It was only a few blocks from where our corporate office was
[21:20.840 --> 21:23.360]  and I had some time in my hands that day
[21:23.360 --> 21:27.640]  so I decided to just drop into the library.
[21:27.640 --> 21:29.680]  I never thought I'd go into a library again
[21:29.680 --> 21:31.240]  after I got out of school
[21:31.240 --> 21:33.120]  because I thought that was where you punish people
[21:33.120 --> 21:34.680]  for doing bad things.
[21:34.680 --> 21:38.800]  And anyway, I went into the international department.
[21:38.800 --> 21:41.520]  I wanted to check out a few books
[21:41.520 --> 21:43.200]  on the topic of the United Nations
[21:43.200 --> 21:46.080]  and in particular, these wars,
[21:46.080 --> 21:49.440]  these peacekeeping operations, as they called them.
[21:49.480 --> 21:52.840]  And to see if I could learn more about it
[21:52.840 --> 21:57.520]  and prove that this college professor was wrong.
[21:57.520 --> 21:58.960]  So I checked out a few books
[21:58.960 --> 22:00.560]  and even though they were all written
[22:00.560 --> 22:03.120]  from the friendly perspective,
[22:03.120 --> 22:04.400]  they were all friends of the UN.
[22:04.400 --> 22:07.680]  Many of them were either employees or former employees
[22:07.680 --> 22:12.280]  or they had positions, professional positions,
[22:12.280 --> 22:15.200]  which depended on their being friendly.
[22:16.160 --> 22:17.840]  Some of them were academics
[22:17.840 --> 22:19.920]  and academics, I discovered,
[22:19.920 --> 22:22.600]  would never dare go against the UN.
[22:22.600 --> 22:24.760]  Anyway, so I read those books
[22:24.760 --> 22:27.800]  and I recognized that they were biased.
[22:27.800 --> 22:29.840]  And so that was the beginning of it,
[22:29.840 --> 22:31.600]  reading their own works.
[22:31.600 --> 22:34.320]  And some of them were quite frank, by the way.
[22:34.320 --> 22:36.400]  I learned about the war in Katanga
[22:38.400 --> 22:43.000]  with Patrice Lumumba and the war on Katanga
[22:43.000 --> 22:45.400]  and after it was really an eye-opener for me.
[22:45.400 --> 22:48.960]  In fact, that's how I opened my book on the United Nations
[22:48.960 --> 22:52.760]  was with that section on what happened in Katanga.
[22:52.760 --> 22:55.000]  Basically, what happened is that
[22:55.000 --> 23:00.000]  there was a communist revolution in the Congo,
[23:00.240 --> 23:02.440]  Katanga province of the Congo,
[23:02.440 --> 23:07.440]  and the so-called colonial powers just left.
[23:09.360 --> 23:10.920]  There was betrayal, I think,
[23:10.920 --> 23:13.760]  at the highest levels in the government.
[23:13.760 --> 23:16.320]  I think it was Belgium, and they just withdrew their troops
[23:16.320 --> 23:19.080]  and all their law enforcement facilities
[23:19.080 --> 23:23.800]  and just gave the Congo over to the communist revolutionaries.
[23:23.800 --> 23:26.800]  And that was hard to believe, but there was an evidence.
[23:26.800 --> 23:28.960]  And so when the troops went out,
[23:28.960 --> 23:31.480]  there was mass slaughter going on.
[23:31.480 --> 23:34.040]  It looked like it might be racial, but it was not.
[23:34.040 --> 23:34.880]  It was economic.
[23:34.880 --> 23:38.400]  It was getting the colonialists out.
[23:38.400 --> 23:39.720]  That was the word they used.
[23:39.720 --> 23:41.760]  The capitalists, get the capitalists out
[23:41.800 --> 23:44.560]  and get the socialist in power again.
[23:44.560 --> 23:47.240]  So the Congo went into total chaos,
[23:47.240 --> 23:50.520]  blood all over the place, and production stopped.
[23:50.520 --> 23:51.720]  The economy crashed.
[23:51.720 --> 23:52.920]  People were starving.
[23:52.920 --> 23:54.640]  People were robbing each other.
[23:54.640 --> 23:56.360]  It was total chaos.
[23:57.280 --> 23:59.760]  I fear we're, in America, gonna get somewhat like,
[23:59.760 --> 24:01.440]  see some of that ourselves
[24:01.440 --> 24:05.160]  when we make that step toward total collectivism
[24:05.160 --> 24:06.240]  or socialism.
[24:06.240 --> 24:07.680]  Anyway, that's what happened.
[24:07.680 --> 24:09.320]  And so the UN came along and said,
[24:09.360 --> 24:10.600]  well, look at this chaos.
[24:10.600 --> 24:12.160]  We've got to put an end to that.
[24:12.160 --> 24:14.440]  And everyone said, yes, yes, that's what you're for.
[24:14.440 --> 24:16.120]  And you're the peacekeepers, right?
[24:16.120 --> 24:17.040]  Yes.
[24:17.040 --> 24:19.680]  Okay, well, the peacekeepers went in
[24:19.680 --> 24:23.960]  and there were multiple provinces in the Congo,
[24:23.960 --> 24:28.080]  and they were all in total blood-drenched chaos,
[24:28.080 --> 24:29.000]  except one.
[24:30.000 --> 24:33.240]  The one shining exception was Katanga.
[24:34.720 --> 24:36.760]  It was headed by Moishan Bey.
[24:36.760 --> 24:40.400]  And Moishan Bey had been to some universities in London
[24:40.400 --> 24:41.960]  and had come to America,
[24:41.960 --> 24:43.360]  and he understood the principles
[24:43.360 --> 24:45.120]  of free enterprise capitalism.
[24:47.040 --> 24:48.840]  And he was standing firm,
[24:48.840 --> 24:53.000]  and his province was like it had always been.
[24:53.000 --> 24:54.400]  And chaos was all around them.
[24:54.400 --> 24:56.600]  So where did the UN send the peacekeepers?
[24:57.520 --> 24:58.640]  There.
[24:58.640 --> 24:59.480]  There.
[24:59.480 --> 25:01.920]  They didn't send them anyplace else where the chaos was.
[25:01.920 --> 25:04.400]  They sent them where the chaos was not.
[25:04.400 --> 25:07.640]  And they literally overthrew the Katanga province
[25:07.640 --> 25:09.640]  and put it into chaos also.
[25:09.640 --> 25:12.600]  And when I saw that documented so clearly,
[25:12.600 --> 25:15.280]  and in many cases by the employees
[25:15.280 --> 25:19.360]  and officers of the UN itself.
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[26:20.520 --> 26:23.240]  Where they bragged about doing that, in their own words,
[26:23.240 --> 26:26.840]  and when I saw that, that changed my life.
[26:26.840 --> 26:29.760]  Because it was a red pill, you might say,
[26:30.080 --> 26:32.440]  I saw life the way it really was.
[26:32.440 --> 26:35.120]  And in one book by the,
[26:35.120 --> 26:37.360]  I think it was an Irish general from Ireland,
[26:38.680 --> 26:40.000]  I can't think of his name anyway,
[26:40.000 --> 26:44.040]  but a big thick book on how wonderful he was in the Congo
[26:44.040 --> 26:46.400]  doing all these things on behalf
[26:46.400 --> 26:49.520]  of international cooperation and peace and so forth.
[26:49.520 --> 26:51.720]  And he time and again said,
[26:51.720 --> 26:53.800]  well, you know, when this issue came up,
[26:53.800 --> 26:58.800]  we lied in the press conferences, as all bureaucrats do.
[26:59.760 --> 27:04.000]  And he was sort of like, well, that's the way it is, folks.
[27:04.000 --> 27:05.120]  I'm glad you're reading my book.
[27:05.120 --> 27:07.240]  Now you know how it works.
[27:07.240 --> 27:11.640]  So I, Connor O'Brien, that was his name, General O'Brien.
[27:11.640 --> 27:15.240]  And I realized that these people actually boast
[27:15.240 --> 27:17.760]  about some of the crimes they commit.
[27:17.760 --> 27:20.480]  And that was my changing point right there.
[27:22.200 --> 27:25.080]  And so my first interest was the United Nations
[27:25.080 --> 27:27.200]  and I did some research on it.
[27:27.200 --> 27:30.640]  I took that pamphlet that I talked about a moment ago
[27:30.640 --> 27:33.600]  and then my own independent research and added to it.
[27:33.600 --> 27:36.080]  And that's what became the basis for my book,
[27:37.360 --> 27:38.880]  The Fearful Master.
[27:38.880 --> 27:41.440]  That's great, yeah, wonderful title as well.
[27:41.440 --> 27:42.280]  You talked about-
[27:42.280 --> 27:47.000]  That come from a quotation attributed to George Washington.
[27:47.000 --> 27:49.720]  I could never find an official source for it,
[27:49.720 --> 27:52.360]  but everybody seemed to agree that it came from him.
[27:52.360 --> 27:55.640]  And he said, government is not,
[27:55.640 --> 27:57.000]  let's see if I can get this straight.
[27:57.840 --> 28:01.560]  Government is not wisdom, it is not benevolence,
[28:01.560 --> 28:03.040]  it is force.
[28:03.960 --> 28:08.960]  Like fire, it is a dangerous servant
[28:09.000 --> 28:10.760]  and a fearful master.
[28:11.920 --> 28:12.760]  That's great.
[28:12.760 --> 28:15.280]  Yeah, whoever wrote that, if Washington did it right.
[28:15.280 --> 28:16.120]  They had it.
[28:16.120 --> 28:16.960]  Yeah, they nailed it.
[28:16.960 --> 28:18.640]  So it's absolutely true.
[28:18.640 --> 28:20.680]  Now you were with the John Birch Society.
[28:20.680 --> 28:22.240]  You were talking about how they like to paint,
[28:22.240 --> 28:26.280]  portray birchers as crazy.
[28:26.280 --> 28:27.840]  And I guess a big part of that,
[28:27.840 --> 28:31.320]  I think a big part of that war against the John Birch Society
[28:31.320 --> 28:33.360]  was coming from William F. Buckley.
[28:33.360 --> 28:35.040]  Talk a little bit about that.
[28:35.040 --> 28:37.080]  Was he the point man publicly
[28:37.080 --> 28:39.080]  or was there other things that were happening?
[28:39.080 --> 28:41.320]  No, I don't think Buckley was a point man at all.
[28:41.320 --> 28:43.880]  That's an interesting observation.
[28:43.880 --> 28:48.880]  Buckley did come out publicly against the Birch Society
[28:49.320 --> 28:54.320]  and the militant left, left-wingers,
[28:55.200 --> 28:58.720]  attacked the Birch Society vehemently.
[28:58.720 --> 29:02.000]  They called us fascists, Nazis, extremists,
[29:02.000 --> 29:06.560]  anti-Semites, wackos, and any of those things.
[29:06.560 --> 29:09.640]  And they just kept repeating it and repeating it.
[29:09.640 --> 29:10.800]  And a lot of people believed it
[29:10.800 --> 29:13.080]  because they read about it in their newspaper.
[29:13.080 --> 29:15.000]  And of course it was none of those things,
[29:15.000 --> 29:16.400]  but that didn't make any difference.
[29:16.400 --> 29:18.200]  Perception is the important thing.
[29:18.600 --> 29:23.600]  And, but Buckley was not from the radical left.
[29:24.840 --> 29:26.400]  There were a few people like Buckley
[29:26.400 --> 29:29.080]  that also jumped on the bandwagon
[29:29.080 --> 29:31.920]  from what people considered to be the right-wing.
[29:31.920 --> 29:34.680]  Of course we could talk about the impropriety
[29:34.680 --> 29:37.760]  of thinking there's a difference between right and left.
[29:37.760 --> 29:40.360]  Later, but I learned that the hard way too,
[29:40.360 --> 29:42.560]  that the right-wing and the left-wing
[29:42.560 --> 29:46.280]  are merely two wings on the same ugly bird
[29:46.280 --> 29:47.680]  called collectibles.
[29:48.640 --> 29:52.160]  But anyway, I hadn't learned that yet.
[29:52.160 --> 29:54.920]  So anyway, Buckley was one of those guys
[29:54.920 --> 29:59.520]  who was associated with the so-called right-wing,
[29:59.520 --> 30:01.640]  but they believed pretty much the same thing.
[30:01.640 --> 30:04.120]  And they would attack any serious challenge
[30:04.120 --> 30:06.640]  to collectivism, which is what they believed in.
[30:06.640 --> 30:07.760]  Yeah, he's a big establishment.
[30:07.760 --> 30:09.920]  I remember, I was thinking that I was trying
[30:09.920 --> 30:12.040]  to get polar opposites, I'd read National Review
[30:12.040 --> 30:13.600]  and I'd read The Nation when I was in college.
[30:13.600 --> 30:17.160]  I'd read these and kind of try to figure out what's going on.
[30:17.160 --> 30:18.840]  I didn't want to read in time in Newsweek,
[30:18.840 --> 30:20.640]  so I wanted to get these opposing views and everything,
[30:20.640 --> 30:23.920]  but then I eventually found out they were also very much alike
[30:23.920 --> 30:25.760]  in many ways, to be pointed out.
[30:25.760 --> 30:28.880]  I thought it was kind of extreme that I wasn't, you know?
[30:28.880 --> 30:31.320]  Yeah, what's this opposing business business?
[30:31.320 --> 30:32.160]  Yeah.
[30:34.440 --> 30:37.440]  Yeah, people have to learn that lesson yet.
[30:37.440 --> 30:40.120]  They still think, especially as we're living right now
[30:40.120 --> 30:44.640]  through a period of great political intensity,
[30:44.640 --> 30:46.480]  they really think that the political parties
[30:46.480 --> 30:48.080]  are going to be their salvation.
[30:48.080 --> 30:50.600]  It's just a question, who are you going to vote for?
[30:50.600 --> 30:52.880]  And it is the most important election of our lifetime.
[30:52.880 --> 30:54.640]  You've had a lot of those most important elections
[30:54.640 --> 30:55.680]  of your lifetime, haven't you?
[30:55.680 --> 30:57.080]  You've probably heard that more than once.
[30:57.080 --> 30:58.880]  Every one of them is the most important,
[30:58.880 --> 31:00.520]  last chance to do what's right.
[31:01.680 --> 31:02.680]  It's going to be the end of the world
[31:02.680 --> 31:04.080]  if we don't get this right, yeah.
[31:04.080 --> 31:05.120]  Yeah, uh-huh.
[31:05.120 --> 31:06.440]  We've heard that so many times.
[31:06.440 --> 31:08.480]  Well, so you start out with the UN
[31:08.480 --> 31:10.120]  and you're working with JBS,
[31:10.120 --> 31:13.600]  and how did you get over to the Federal Reserve?
[31:13.600 --> 31:14.840]  How did you move over to that?
[31:14.840 --> 31:17.760]  I decided I had to produce some little documentaries
[31:17.760 --> 31:20.080]  or documentary films, as we call them today.
[31:20.080 --> 31:23.840]  But back in those days, unless you had big bucks,
[31:23.840 --> 31:27.040]  which we didn't, you used film strips,
[31:27.040 --> 31:28.520]  film strip projectors.
[31:28.520 --> 31:31.360]  And it was a projector where you roll a little roll
[31:31.360 --> 31:35.320]  of a 35 millimeter film with just still pictures on it.
[31:35.320 --> 31:39.120]  One, I think we had 98 pictures or so.
[31:39.120 --> 31:41.480]  And you click them one at a time
[31:41.480 --> 31:43.640]  and it projects up on the screen.
[31:43.680 --> 31:46.600]  You play the soundtrack like an LP recording
[31:46.600 --> 31:48.360]  on a phonograph machine.
[31:48.360 --> 31:51.080]  And when it's time to change the picture,
[31:51.080 --> 31:54.000]  there's a beep that comes under the sound.
[31:54.000 --> 31:57.360]  The operator turns the picture and the narration continues.
[31:57.360 --> 32:01.520]  And then it's like a PowerPoint presentation with the beeps.
[32:01.520 --> 32:04.240]  And so that's what we did in those days.
[32:04.240 --> 32:07.440]  And I did, oh, I don't know, nine or 10 of them.
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[33:10.640 --> 33:14.000]  On inflation and the money supply.
[33:14.000 --> 33:15.000]  I didn't know much about it,
[33:15.000 --> 33:17.360]  but I knew that there was something fishy going on
[33:17.360 --> 33:20.800]  because everybody was accusing the other guy
[33:20.800 --> 33:22.800]  of being responsible for inflation.
[33:24.440 --> 33:25.680]  Everybody accused the farmers.
[33:25.680 --> 33:27.680]  They were getting too much for their food.
[33:27.680 --> 33:30.080]  And the farmers said, no, we're starving.
[33:30.080 --> 33:31.760]  We have to eat our own food to just stay alive.
[33:31.760 --> 33:33.000]  We don't make any money.
[33:33.000 --> 33:35.680]  It's the distributors that take all the money.
[33:35.680 --> 33:37.960]  And the distributors said, not us, it's the truckers.
[33:37.960 --> 33:39.240]  And the truckers, oh, no, it's not us.
[33:39.240 --> 33:40.920]  It's the grocery stores.
[33:40.920 --> 33:43.720]  And the grocery, oh, it's not us, it's the labor unions.
[33:43.720 --> 33:44.560]  And so forth.
[33:44.560 --> 33:45.400]  And they're all,
[33:45.400 --> 33:47.480]  everybody's pointing to somebody else as the cause.
[33:47.480 --> 33:50.760]  And they were all correct in a sense that it was not them,
[33:50.760 --> 33:52.360]  but they didn't know who it was.
[33:52.360 --> 33:56.040]  And there was that hidden element that nobody had looked at.
[33:56.040 --> 33:58.600]  And so I was curious about that.
[33:58.600 --> 34:01.960]  So I started to do research on inflation.
[34:01.960 --> 34:05.440]  And of course that leads directly to the engine
[34:05.440 --> 34:06.880]  of inflation.
[34:06.880 --> 34:08.440]  And that's the federal reserve system,
[34:08.440 --> 34:13.440]  because that's the power that creates money out of debt.
[34:14.760 --> 34:16.760]  And they can just create as much money
[34:16.760 --> 34:20.560]  as people are willing to borrow into existence.
[34:20.560 --> 34:22.280]  And then it's not their money.
[34:22.280 --> 34:24.720]  They just create it out of nothing
[34:24.720 --> 34:26.760]  or worse than nothing out of debt.
[34:26.760 --> 34:29.520]  So the money supply expands much faster
[34:29.520 --> 34:32.040]  than goods and services expand.
[34:32.040 --> 34:34.600]  And therefore the relative prices
[34:34.640 --> 34:35.920]  for those goods and services
[34:35.920 --> 34:39.840]  in terms of the expanded source of the money goes up.
[34:39.840 --> 34:42.080]  It's just a very simple formula.
[34:42.080 --> 34:44.480]  A high school kid that knows anything about math
[34:44.480 --> 34:45.760]  can figure it out.
[34:45.760 --> 34:48.920]  But the American people still don't understand it
[34:48.920 --> 34:53.920]  pretty much because it's deliberately compounded
[34:53.920 --> 34:55.560]  and made to look very complicated.
[34:55.560 --> 34:56.840]  And it's not.
[34:56.840 --> 34:59.720]  So I got into that and I created a couple of banker boxes
[34:59.720 --> 35:01.360]  full of research on it.
[35:01.360 --> 35:04.240]  And I was ready to go.
[35:05.200 --> 35:08.720]  And then I realized this topic is getting too big for me.
[35:08.720 --> 35:10.360]  And meanwhile, I had to get on
[35:10.360 --> 35:13.920]  and produce some faster film strips
[35:13.920 --> 35:16.480]  because I have to put groceries on the table, right?
[35:16.480 --> 35:21.320]  So I put the banker boxes in my closet for now.
[35:22.200 --> 35:26.480]  And then one day I got a call from a little old lady
[35:26.480 --> 35:28.240]  in tennis shoes from Pasadena.
[35:28.240 --> 35:30.120]  You've heard about those ladies.
[35:30.120 --> 35:31.600]  This was a real one.
[35:31.600 --> 35:33.520]  And she was a widow.
[35:33.520 --> 35:35.480]  And she obviously had some money
[35:35.480 --> 35:38.520]  because she lived in a big house in Pasadena.
[35:38.520 --> 35:40.240]  And her husband had passed away, of course,
[35:40.240 --> 35:43.160]  and had this car in the garage.
[35:43.160 --> 35:46.640]  It was probably about 12, 15 years old,
[35:46.640 --> 35:50.400]  but I think it had like 800 miles on it.
[35:52.720 --> 35:54.000]  Well, that's a little side story,
[35:54.000 --> 35:55.160]  but she was a wonderful lady.
[35:55.160 --> 35:58.960]  And she had a monthly class that she was,
[35:58.960 --> 36:03.200]  or meeting in her home on taxes.
[36:03.200 --> 36:05.720]  And she'd heard that I was giving speeches
[36:05.720 --> 36:08.560]  and showing film strips and so forth.
[36:08.560 --> 36:10.640]  So she called me and asked me
[36:10.640 --> 36:13.800]  if I would give a speech to her group
[36:13.800 --> 36:17.120]  on the weekend on taxes.
[36:17.120 --> 36:21.680]  And I said, well, I don't know much about taxes,
[36:21.680 --> 36:25.560]  except that they're too high and I'm a good one.
[36:25.560 --> 36:26.400]  What else can you say?
[36:26.400 --> 36:31.320]  The taxes are, but I might be able to talk to your group
[36:31.320 --> 36:33.480]  about a hidden tax.
[36:33.480 --> 36:35.680]  Would that be of interest to you?
[36:35.680 --> 36:37.000]  And she said, a hidden tax?
[36:37.000 --> 36:37.840]  What is that?
[36:38.960 --> 36:40.600]  And in my supreme wisdom, I said,
[36:40.600 --> 36:43.800]  well, I guess you're just gonna have to retain my services
[36:43.800 --> 36:46.680]  so I can tell you what else.
[36:46.680 --> 36:47.520]  And she laughed.
[36:47.520 --> 36:49.240]  She said, you got me.
[36:49.240 --> 36:50.280]  She said, let's do it.
[36:50.280 --> 36:54.440]  So all right, I committed to do a presentation
[36:54.440 --> 36:57.680]  on the Federal Reserve as the hidden tax.
[36:57.680 --> 37:00.560]  And that forced me to open up my banker boxes
[37:00.560 --> 37:02.320]  and go through this stuff again.
[37:02.320 --> 37:04.640]  And the second time through,
[37:04.640 --> 37:06.920]  I was amazed at what I picked up
[37:06.920 --> 37:09.040]  that I didn't catch the first time through.
[37:09.920 --> 37:14.920]  And I became electrified by how really important this was,
[37:15.240 --> 37:17.560]  how many areas in our lives it reached
[37:17.560 --> 37:19.640]  that I hadn't really focused on.
[37:19.640 --> 37:21.240]  So I got excited about it.
[37:21.240 --> 37:23.920]  And I spent some time putting together an outline.
[37:23.920 --> 37:26.800]  I gave the presentation and it was very well received.
[37:26.800 --> 37:28.160]  I was happy to see.
[37:28.160 --> 37:30.440]  And some people approached me afterwards there
[37:31.280 --> 37:32.120]  and they said, Ed, that was good.
[37:32.120 --> 37:33.600]  You ought to put that on the road.
[37:35.200 --> 37:37.840]  Well, you don't do that to a child actor.
[37:40.760 --> 37:44.600]  You say, oh, I'll put it on the road, which I did.
[37:46.040 --> 37:48.320]  I ramped it, got it all well-organized
[37:48.320 --> 37:51.040]  and I called it the crash course on money.
[37:51.040 --> 37:52.760]  It was a one-day seminar.
[37:52.760 --> 37:54.760]  I thought, you know, I could probably sell tickets to this
[37:54.760 --> 37:56.080]  if I was smart enough.
[37:56.080 --> 37:59.720]  And so I tried that and by golly, it worked.
[37:59.760 --> 38:03.360]  And I was selling tickets and I put it on the road.
[38:03.360 --> 38:06.000]  I was going from town to town to town.
[38:07.000 --> 38:09.040]  This time I'm not doing what I did in the old days.
[38:09.040 --> 38:10.920]  I was taking care of myself.
[38:10.920 --> 38:14.440]  And so we did this crash course on money.
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[39:15.080 --> 39:19.160]  And then, I'm probably giving you more information
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[39:20.000 --> 39:21.580]  But this is what happened.
[39:21.580 --> 39:23.880]  At the end of, I think it was probably about the ninth
[39:23.880 --> 39:28.640]  or 10th seminar.
[39:28.640 --> 39:29.560]  At the end of the meeting,
[39:29.560 --> 39:32.400]  I was approached by another little old lady.
[39:32.400 --> 39:34.520]  And she said, Mr. Griffin,
[39:34.520 --> 39:36.240]  and that was always a shock to me
[39:36.240 --> 39:38.280]  because here she's an elderly lady.
[39:38.280 --> 39:42.520]  And I'm still in my 20s, late 20s or early 30s.
[39:42.520 --> 39:47.520]  And in my 30s, I guess, she's calling me Mr. Griffin.
[39:48.440 --> 39:50.440]  I've always got to kick out of that.
[39:50.440 --> 39:54.440]  She said, after what I've learned from you today,
[39:54.440 --> 39:56.960]  she said, I'm really concerned about what I should do
[39:56.960 --> 39:59.560]  with what limited resources I have.
[40:00.680 --> 40:02.160]  My husband passed away
[40:02.160 --> 40:05.580]  and he left a small stipend in insurance
[40:05.580 --> 40:06.660]  and we can get along.
[40:06.660 --> 40:10.920]  We have a small investment in a small apartment building
[40:10.920 --> 40:13.440]  or two apartments, I think she said.
[40:13.440 --> 40:15.240]  And we're in debt.
[40:15.240 --> 40:16.880]  Should I get out of debt?
[40:16.880 --> 40:19.000]  Should I take what we have in assets
[40:19.000 --> 40:20.880]  and put it in gold and silver?
[40:20.880 --> 40:25.480]  Or what should I do with my assets?
[40:25.480 --> 40:30.400]  And it hit me at that moment what a fraud I was
[40:30.400 --> 40:33.960]  because I did not know the answer to that question.
[40:33.960 --> 40:36.520]  I knew what the Federal Reserve was doing.
[40:36.520 --> 40:38.820]  I knew how they created money out of debt.
[40:38.820 --> 40:40.920]  I knew the impact it had
[40:40.920 --> 40:43.200]  on the purchasing power of money.
[40:43.200 --> 40:45.620]  I knew all those things, a lot of them, not all,
[40:45.620 --> 40:47.920]  but I was still learning still in those days.
[40:47.920 --> 40:50.800]  But to answer the question of what she should do
[40:50.800 --> 40:55.180]  to avoid the consequences of that, I had no idea.
[40:55.180 --> 40:58.080]  I was a fraud and she was expecting me to know.
[40:59.460 --> 41:03.940]  So I stopped doing the webinar, the seminars, I should say,
[41:03.940 --> 41:06.360]  and I enrolled in the College for Financial Planning,
[41:06.360 --> 41:11.360]  which was a course done by a Chicago outfit,
[41:11.800 --> 41:13.360]  it was an educational group.
[41:13.360 --> 41:15.700]  It was like a CFP designation
[41:15.700 --> 41:18.740]  and it normally takes a couple of years to get it.
[41:18.740 --> 41:21.980]  So I enrolled in it and it was all by correspondence.
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[41:23.860 --> 41:26.940]  and take the exam, that's an all day exam and so forth.
[41:26.940 --> 41:30.260]  So I did that and I got my CFP designation
[41:30.260 --> 41:32.300]  as a financial advisor.
[41:33.540 --> 41:34.860]  Not because I wanted to do that,
[41:34.860 --> 41:37.500]  I just wanted to know how to answer this woman's question.
[41:37.500 --> 41:42.040]  How do you protect your assets under these conditions?
[41:42.040 --> 41:43.300]  So that's what I did.
[41:43.300 --> 41:48.300]  And then I came out of that with another realization
[41:49.860 --> 41:52.020]  which I never would have had
[41:52.020 --> 41:54.180]  had I not been taking that course.
[41:54.180 --> 41:56.740]  And that is that these people were teaching bunk.
[41:57.660 --> 41:59.580]  I was learning bunk.
[41:59.580 --> 42:04.580]  Now, they were teaching how to invest in markets
[42:05.420 --> 42:10.420]  that is in the best interest of the financial planners,
[42:10.540 --> 42:13.820]  not in the best interest of the investors.
[42:13.820 --> 42:16.980]  And that was really what it was all about.
[42:16.980 --> 42:20.060]  And of course, they always said it was for the group
[42:20.060 --> 42:23.140]  for the best investment for the, I'll get this straight yet.
[42:23.140 --> 42:25.500]  It's always best for the investor himself
[42:25.500 --> 42:28.420]  but it was always an investment that paid a commission
[42:28.420 --> 42:31.580]  to the person that recommended it or something like that.
[42:31.580 --> 42:35.260]  And none of it really took into account
[42:35.260 --> 42:36.620]  that the value of the money
[42:36.620 --> 42:39.540]  was constantly being depreciated.
[42:39.580 --> 42:42.460]  They didn't really understand inflation.
[42:42.460 --> 42:44.940]  Or they said, well, this has a better interest rate
[42:44.940 --> 42:48.100]  and therefore better to fight inflation.
[42:48.100 --> 42:51.080]  But they never talked about inflation itself
[42:51.080 --> 42:53.180]  and what the long-term consequences might be
[42:53.180 --> 42:55.420]  over 20 or 30 years for you
[42:55.420 --> 42:57.700]  who would do everything they recommend
[42:57.700 --> 43:00.340]  but still in 20 or 30 years, you have zero
[43:00.340 --> 43:04.860]  because the dollar is zero and things like that.
[43:04.860 --> 43:06.020]  So that's when I decided,
[43:06.020 --> 43:10.180]  hey, somebody ought to write a book on this.
[43:12.180 --> 43:14.380]  I looked around and there were books on the topic
[43:14.380 --> 43:17.300]  but they were all kind of written from the point of view
[43:17.300 --> 43:20.940]  of somebody who wanted to go into banking.
[43:20.940 --> 43:22.500]  If they wanted to be a banker,
[43:22.500 --> 43:24.900]  the book was there on the Federal Reserve.
[43:24.900 --> 43:28.040]  How to use the Federal Reserve, how it works
[43:28.040 --> 43:31.260]  and the terminology and it was all good.
[43:31.260 --> 43:36.260]  But the books didn't help the average person
[43:36.700 --> 43:39.420]  at all understand the fraud
[43:39.420 --> 43:40.900]  that was built into the banking system.
[43:40.900 --> 43:41.940]  And not even the bankers.
[43:41.940 --> 43:44.860]  I had a friend of ours and I would make remarks
[43:44.860 --> 43:47.900]  from time to time about the Federal Reserve.
[43:47.900 --> 43:50.300]  And we got together and he had his brother
[43:50.300 --> 43:52.480]  who was a branch manager at a bank.
[43:52.480 --> 43:53.980]  And he says, whatever his name was,
[43:53.980 --> 43:55.460]  I don't know, it was Fred or something.
[43:55.460 --> 43:57.180]  I met him once and that was it.
[43:57.180 --> 44:00.440]  But he said, Fred, Dave's got a lot of issues
[44:00.440 --> 44:01.280]  with the Federal Reserve.
[44:01.280 --> 44:03.000]  He said, tell him about the Federal Reserve.
[44:03.000 --> 44:04.960]  He goes, they just cash checks.
[44:04.960 --> 44:06.200]  They just process checks.
[44:06.200 --> 44:11.080]  I said, that's your understanding of this.
[44:11.080 --> 44:15.520]  So yeah, that was one of the most clueless people
[44:15.520 --> 44:17.400]  I've ever seen in terms of,
[44:17.400 --> 44:19.320]  I mean, who wasn't even aware of the impact
[44:19.320 --> 44:23.880]  of setting interest rates even, for example, none of it.
[44:23.880 --> 44:26.120]  Well, you see, you don't have to understand that
[44:26.120 --> 44:28.080]  to make a killing in the banking.
[44:28.080 --> 44:28.920]  That's right.
[44:29.360 --> 44:31.400]  All you have to do is just know how to cash checks
[44:31.400 --> 44:34.280]  and move the money around and collect interest.
[44:34.280 --> 44:35.280]  That's it.
[44:35.280 --> 44:36.740]  Yeah, that's absolutely right.
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[45:37.400 --> 45:38.560]  So that's how it all started.
[45:38.560 --> 45:39.960]  And so, as I said earlier,
[45:39.960 --> 45:42.200]  it's kind of a boring story actually,
[45:42.200 --> 45:44.280]  because it's the same thing over and over again.
[45:44.280 --> 45:46.040]  That you'd stumble into things
[45:46.040 --> 45:48.760]  that you had no idea where you're headed.
[45:48.760 --> 45:51.440]  And if I had had any sense,
[45:51.440 --> 45:53.560]  literally any common sense,
[45:53.560 --> 45:55.100]  knowing what I know now,
[45:55.100 --> 45:56.520]  I would never have tackled it
[45:56.520 --> 45:59.720]  because it was so much over my understanding,
[45:59.720 --> 46:01.240]  over my head.
[46:01.240 --> 46:03.640]  I didn't know any of this.
[46:03.640 --> 46:06.840]  Well, it's a good thing I didn't know
[46:06.840 --> 46:09.520]  because I've talked to bankers since then,
[46:09.520 --> 46:12.320]  and especially when I get into the topic of cancer
[46:12.320 --> 46:13.440]  and things like that.
[46:13.440 --> 46:15.480]  I have no medical background yet.
[46:15.480 --> 46:18.400]  I'm writing a book on cancer therapy and so forth.
[46:18.400 --> 46:20.320]  And I've had people tell me,
[46:20.320 --> 46:22.520]  like doctors in particular say,
[46:22.520 --> 46:25.000]  Ed, you had an advantage that we didn't have.
[46:26.640 --> 46:27.600]  What?
[46:27.600 --> 46:28.720]  What do you mean an advantage?
[46:28.720 --> 46:29.560]  How could that be?
[46:29.560 --> 46:30.480]  You went to school.
[46:30.480 --> 46:31.760]  That's the advantage.
[46:33.760 --> 46:35.960]  We had to unlearn.
[46:35.960 --> 46:37.240]  All you had to do was learn.
[46:37.240 --> 46:39.760]  We had to unlearn first.
[46:39.760 --> 46:41.120]  Oh yeah.
[46:41.120 --> 46:42.800]  Because when you go through the institutions
[46:42.800 --> 46:44.120]  and they teach you these things,
[46:44.120 --> 46:47.480]  you believe, you become a true believer.
[46:47.480 --> 46:49.360]  Trust these people.
[46:49.360 --> 46:50.760]  Before we leave the financial stuff,
[46:50.760 --> 46:52.040]  I mean, we've got a lot of people
[46:52.040 --> 46:54.480]  looking at what is happening now.
[46:54.480 --> 46:56.320]  It looks like they've been kicking this can
[46:57.120 --> 46:57.960]  down the road for a long time.
[46:57.960 --> 46:59.400]  It looks like we're getting towards the end of the rope.
[46:59.400 --> 47:01.800]  They've openly talked about how they want to re-engineer
[47:01.800 --> 47:03.480]  the entire financial system.
[47:03.480 --> 47:06.880]  CBDC is on the horizon and all the rest of this stuff.
[47:07.840 --> 47:10.960]  What in general is your advice to people?
[47:10.960 --> 47:12.680]  I know you're not a financial advisor
[47:12.680 --> 47:14.080]  and you're not giving financial advice,
[47:14.080 --> 47:17.080]  but just in general, in terms of preparing
[47:17.080 --> 47:19.600]  for what is coming, what would you say to people?
[47:19.960 --> 47:22.960]  I guess it depends on to whom I'm talking
[47:24.080 --> 47:27.200]  because for many people, if you tell them
[47:27.200 --> 47:32.200]  really what's happening, it's so beyond their world
[47:32.200 --> 47:36.200]  of understanding that they cannot believe it.
[47:36.200 --> 47:39.200]  Or if they believe it, they don't understand it.
[47:39.200 --> 47:40.360]  So you're wasting your time.
[47:40.360 --> 47:43.280]  You have to get, depending on who you're talking to.
[47:43.280 --> 47:48.280]  But I guess it depends on who you're talking to.
[47:50.080 --> 47:54.880]  My simplest way to explain it is to be totally honest,
[47:54.880 --> 47:57.240]  but to not be dramatic about it.
[47:57.240 --> 47:59.520]  So let's see if I can put that together.
[48:00.760 --> 48:02.760]  It's some pretty dramatic stuff.
[48:02.760 --> 48:04.320]  Cute up in the thing.
[48:04.320 --> 48:05.920]  Not being too dramatic.
[48:05.920 --> 48:09.160]  What is happening in my view, if it is that
[48:10.480 --> 48:13.880]  the old system of money is coming to an end.
[48:13.880 --> 48:16.040]  And that's an important fact to know
[48:16.040 --> 48:19.200]  because up until now, all you had to know
[48:19.840 --> 48:22.120]  was, well, what has always worked?
[48:22.120 --> 48:25.960]  You know, like should we invest in gold or silver
[48:25.960 --> 48:28.240]  or something, in coins?
[48:28.240 --> 48:30.640]  And there could be arguments pro and con,
[48:30.640 --> 48:34.760]  but the most overriding argument was it's always worked
[48:34.760 --> 48:37.080]  no matter when you look in history,
[48:37.080 --> 48:38.320]  no matter what the problem was,
[48:38.320 --> 48:41.640]  those that had gold and silver always came out on top.
[48:41.640 --> 48:44.720]  So it's always worked that way,
[48:44.720 --> 48:47.800]  is a really powerful item.
[48:47.800 --> 48:51.160]  But now, it isn't in my view,
[48:51.160 --> 48:53.720]  because the system itself is changing
[48:54.800 --> 48:58.480]  to the point where money will no longer even exist
[48:58.480 --> 49:00.680]  in the way that we think of it.
[49:00.680 --> 49:03.400]  Money, the essence of money,
[49:03.400 --> 49:06.400]  in order for it to have any use to us,
[49:06.400 --> 49:08.160]  is that we have to own it.
[49:09.560 --> 49:12.280]  It's got to be our money.
[49:12.280 --> 49:15.920]  It's not somebody else's money.
[49:16.000 --> 49:17.840]  Because if it's somebody else's money,
[49:17.840 --> 49:22.160]  they can just take it back, and we don't have it.
[49:22.160 --> 49:25.000]  And this is what's changing, is the fact that,
[49:25.000 --> 49:27.120]  and most people don't see this at all.
[49:27.120 --> 49:29.000]  They think, well, no matter what they come up with,
[49:29.000 --> 49:31.160]  it'll be just like it always has been.
[49:31.160 --> 49:33.720]  No, no, because the CBCDs,
[49:33.720 --> 49:35.320]  the Central Bank Digital Currencies,
[49:35.320 --> 49:39.600]  that all of the nations now are committed to adopting
[49:39.600 --> 49:44.160]  in the very near future, in the next decade for sure,
[49:44.160 --> 49:46.880]  possibly starting in the next year or two,
[49:47.920 --> 49:52.240]  that that quality of private ownership is gone.
[49:52.240 --> 49:55.600]  That those tokens, or whatever they call them,
[49:55.600 --> 49:59.000]  the digital currencies, they'll have different names.
[49:59.960 --> 50:04.960]  Whatever the name is, they will be owned by the banks,
[50:05.080 --> 50:09.520]  and they'll be allocated to you and me and everybody else
[50:09.520 --> 50:14.520]  to use as long as we have a good social credit,
[50:15.920 --> 50:17.840]  which means as long as we behave
[50:18.840 --> 50:21.320]  according to what they think we should.
[50:21.320 --> 50:23.560]  You and I are going to be pretty poor, aren't we?
[50:23.560 --> 50:26.680]  We're going to be out on the street,
[50:26.680 --> 50:28.920]  sitting on a curb with a tin cup,
[50:28.920 --> 50:32.160]  asking somebody to put a coin into the tin cup,
[50:32.160 --> 50:33.800]  but there'll be no coins.
[50:36.120 --> 50:38.000]  There are no coins anymore.
[50:38.000 --> 50:39.720]  They're just digital.
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[51:42.440 --> 51:44.640]  So forget the cup.
[51:44.640 --> 51:48.200]  And people can understand that we're actually
[51:48.200 --> 51:51.520]  approaching a change in the entire system.
[51:51.520 --> 51:55.920]  So the rules of what you do are different now.
[51:56.840 --> 52:01.840]  I would say normally, without this upcoming CBCDs,
[52:02.640 --> 52:06.200]  that we should have a nice stockpile in gold and silver.
[52:06.200 --> 52:08.480]  And I still say that, by the way.
[52:08.480 --> 52:12.240]  I have not as nice a stockpile as I would like,
[52:12.240 --> 52:16.240]  but I have some shackles put away in gold and silver,
[52:16.240 --> 52:19.440]  and in food, and in other physical tangibles,
[52:19.440 --> 52:22.040]  other assets that people will need,
[52:22.040 --> 52:23.680]  and you can use as barter.
[52:23.680 --> 52:26.840]  But in terms of how you come out of it okay,
[52:26.840 --> 52:30.400]  and still maintain your lifestyle, it's a different game.
[52:30.400 --> 52:34.040]  And the chances are, we're not going to come out of it
[52:34.040 --> 52:37.080]  anywhere close to how we went into it.
[52:37.080 --> 52:39.480]  And we have to be prepared for that reality.
[52:39.480 --> 52:41.040]  Nobody wants to hear that.
[52:41.040 --> 52:41.880]  Yes.
[52:41.880 --> 52:42.920]  And I think what we're gonna get
[52:42.920 --> 52:45.000]  is a heavy dose of reality.
[52:45.000 --> 52:48.000]  It's gonna be skills, and it's gonna be commodities
[52:48.000 --> 52:51.400]  and things like that that are going to be negotiable.
[52:51.400 --> 52:55.120]  And it's gonna be, really, it is going to be a reset.
[52:55.120 --> 52:58.600]  And then the question is, how do we cope with that?
[52:58.600 --> 53:01.680]  I think, in terms of people talking about
[53:01.680 --> 53:05.280]  a parallel society, Americans have not really had
[53:05.280 --> 53:08.440]  any experience like people in third world countries have
[53:08.440 --> 53:11.240]  in terms of operating black markets and things like that,
[53:11.240 --> 53:13.240]  but I guess we'll learn pretty quickly.
[53:14.120 --> 53:14.960]  Yeah.
[53:14.960 --> 53:15.800]  Necessity.
[53:15.800 --> 53:18.560]  Yes, well even the black market has a problem with it,
[53:18.560 --> 53:21.840]  because in order for a black market to work,
[53:21.840 --> 53:23.720]  you have to have money that you own.
[53:24.760 --> 53:26.520]  You still have, you go into the black market
[53:26.520 --> 53:28.760]  and you have money that you can give to somebody
[53:28.760 --> 53:30.280]  who's gonna give you something.
[53:30.280 --> 53:32.960]  Or you can, barter is the only thing barter left.
[53:32.960 --> 53:35.920]  And that only works in your local community
[53:35.920 --> 53:38.120]  among people you know and trust.
[53:38.120 --> 53:42.200]  So it doesn't allow you to put gas in your car.
[53:42.200 --> 53:44.480]  It doesn't allow you to pay your rent
[53:44.480 --> 53:49.000]  or to buy clothes in the big store,
[53:49.000 --> 53:51.320]  the big box stores or anything like that.
[53:51.320 --> 53:54.440]  If we don't turn this around and prevent it,
[53:55.440 --> 53:59.760]  we're gonna be very much like little children
[53:59.760 --> 54:03.200]  who are completely dependent on the state for everything.
[54:03.200 --> 54:05.600]  And that includes food, shelter,
[54:05.600 --> 54:08.160]  healthcare, clothing, everything.
[54:08.160 --> 54:13.160]  And under those conditions, most people will buckle
[54:13.400 --> 54:16.760]  and they'll be like slaves in Egypt.
[54:17.800 --> 54:18.640]  That's right.
[54:18.640 --> 54:21.640]  The thing that concerns me is that this is all based
[54:21.640 --> 54:24.280]  on surveillance, that is their overriding desire
[54:24.280 --> 54:25.640]  to know everything about us.
[54:25.640 --> 54:29.240]  And what concerns me about it is how apathetic
[54:29.240 --> 54:33.920]  so many people in our society are about privacy
[54:33.920 --> 54:36.840]  and about surveillance and about free speech.
[54:36.840 --> 54:40.120]  And you've got people across the political spectrum,
[54:40.120 --> 54:44.000]  all these people that are so eager about the election
[54:44.000 --> 54:45.960]  and you see both of these candidates talking about
[54:45.960 --> 54:48.800]  how they're gonna shut people down that disagree with them.
[54:48.800 --> 54:51.960]  And because of that, people downstream from them
[54:51.960 --> 54:55.280]  are also buying into this kind of censorship stuff.
[54:55.280 --> 54:59.320]  And I think if we could develop and get back a respect
[54:59.320 --> 55:02.440]  for free speech and for privacy and things like that,
[55:02.440 --> 55:06.200]  that really has to be fundamental as a guard
[55:06.200 --> 55:08.840]  against some of this stuff because that really is the essence
[55:08.840 --> 55:11.320]  of how their controls are going to run out against us.
[55:11.320 --> 55:12.680]  What do you think?
[55:12.680 --> 55:14.280]  Well, you're absolutely correct.
[55:14.280 --> 55:17.680]  And in other words, we have to be dealing with ideas
[55:17.680 --> 55:20.760]  and ideas, that's the basis of our war.
[55:20.760 --> 55:22.520]  This is a war of ideas.
[55:22.520 --> 55:25.040]  I mean, yes, they have these powerful weapons
[55:25.040 --> 55:28.400]  that frighten us and can be used to eliminate us
[55:28.400 --> 55:30.520]  and that's the ultimate weapon, of course.
[55:30.520 --> 55:34.200]  But in the meantime, they're conquering us not with weapons,
[55:34.200 --> 55:37.320]  they're conquering us with fear of weapons.
[55:37.320 --> 55:41.360]  And that fear of weapons makes us very compliant.
[55:41.360 --> 55:43.640]  And of course, if they didn't have the weapons,
[55:43.640 --> 55:46.360]  we wouldn't be afraid of them, that is true.
[55:47.240 --> 55:49.440]  But they could pretend like they have the weapons
[55:49.440 --> 55:51.760]  and that's often what has happened in the past,
[55:51.760 --> 55:53.720]  as you probably know.
[55:53.720 --> 55:56.200]  In Russia, particularly in the Soviet Union,
[55:56.200 --> 55:59.040]  they would parade these huge missiles in the street
[55:59.040 --> 56:02.560]  on trucks, they were like 80 feet long
[56:02.560 --> 56:06.120]  and these huge missiles like we send to the moon,
[56:06.120 --> 56:08.080]  or supposedly send to the moon.
[56:08.080 --> 56:10.840]  Supposedly, that's right.
[56:10.840 --> 56:12.640]  I don't know what to think about that one.
[56:14.160 --> 56:17.400]  But those weren't really missiles at all, I'm told,
[56:17.400 --> 56:20.640]  that they were just made of wood and painted up
[56:20.640 --> 56:21.800]  and so forth.
[56:21.800 --> 56:24.760]  But Americans, oh look, they got missiles too.
[56:24.760 --> 56:26.560]  And it was the fear of missiles,
[56:26.560 --> 56:29.320]  not the missiles themselves, that caused us
[56:29.320 --> 56:32.120]  to not confront the Soviet Union
[56:32.120 --> 56:34.320]  and try and make friends with them
[56:34.320 --> 56:37.920]  and abandon our own interests and so forth.
[56:37.920 --> 56:38.760]  So this is-
[56:38.760 --> 56:40.080]  Them can parade, right?
[56:40.080 --> 56:42.120]  Yeah, yeah, exactly.
[56:42.120 --> 56:44.800]  So anyway, this is new and I guess that's my message,
[56:45.440 --> 56:49.600]  the old answers to that question are not reliable anymore.
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[56:52.080 --> 56:53.840]  I mean, you shouldn't use them, I should say,
[56:53.840 --> 56:55.200]  because I think that-
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[57:55.880 --> 58:00.880]  Even though we don't have money
[58:01.120 --> 58:04.680]  because we're not obedient enough and they cut us down
[58:04.680 --> 58:07.320]  and we did have coins, we could probably find somebody
[58:07.320 --> 58:10.720]  who would take silver coins if they're small denomination
[58:10.840 --> 58:14.200]  and gold coins in return for food or something
[58:14.200 --> 58:17.120]  that they have a little surplus on in their homes.
[58:17.120 --> 58:19.640]  But this is not living, this is not surviving,
[58:19.640 --> 58:22.040]  this is slavery.
[58:22.040 --> 58:24.840]  And I think though, if we fall back on the fact
[58:24.840 --> 58:27.840]  that what's gonna get us through this one way or the other
[58:27.840 --> 58:30.680]  is going to be the ideas, it's gonna be the principles
[58:30.680 --> 58:31.800]  on which we base our life.
[58:31.800 --> 58:34.200]  I think people who have relationship with Christ
[58:34.200 --> 58:36.400]  are gonna have a foundation that's gonna carry them
[58:36.400 --> 58:37.520]  through this stuff.
[58:37.520 --> 58:39.840]  And it's gonna be very difficult
[58:39.840 --> 58:42.440]  if you don't have something like that.
[58:42.440 --> 58:44.720]  You are going to, if you don't have any,
[58:44.720 --> 58:46.400]  the sand is gonna be shifting,
[58:46.400 --> 58:47.680]  the earth is gonna be quaking.
[58:47.680 --> 58:49.120]  And if there isn't some foundation
[58:49.120 --> 58:51.160]  that is rock solid in your life
[58:51.160 --> 58:54.440]  and if they've got you afraid, they've got you.
[58:54.440 --> 58:56.440]  And that's what we saw four years ago.
[58:56.440 --> 58:59.400]  That was really panic and fear.
[58:59.400 --> 59:01.920]  But that brings me to the medical stuff
[59:01.920 --> 59:04.240]  because I don't wanna finish the interview
[59:04.240 --> 59:06.240]  without having you talk about the book,
[59:06.240 --> 59:07.840]  World Without Cancer.
[59:07.840 --> 59:11.000]  I think this is really a time for people's eyes
[59:11.000 --> 59:12.680]  to be open to this,
[59:12.680 --> 59:16.160]  because prior to what happened in 2020,
[59:16.160 --> 59:18.840]  a lot of people were taken in by the white coats.
[59:18.840 --> 59:21.000]  I remember when they first started this thing,
[59:21.000 --> 59:22.720]  you had a public health person come out.
[59:22.720 --> 59:25.120]  I played that clip over and over again.
[59:25.120 --> 59:26.640]  Comes out to the podium,
[59:26.640 --> 59:28.040]  but before the person who's gonna speak
[59:28.040 --> 59:29.240]  comes out of the podium.
[59:29.240 --> 59:32.240]  They had six people come out, three on each side,
[59:32.240 --> 59:33.760]  all of them in white coats.
[59:33.760 --> 59:35.560]  And they march out in a line and three of them stand
[59:35.560 --> 59:37.440]  on one side of the podium and three of them stand.
[59:37.440 --> 59:39.760]  So look at this, they're just putting this in your face.
[59:39.760 --> 59:42.360]  Like we got white lab coats, we're medical
[59:42.360 --> 59:43.760]  and we have authority.
[59:43.760 --> 59:45.280]  So listen to us.
[59:45.280 --> 59:48.800]  And I think people have seen that now as a fraud.
[59:48.800 --> 59:51.520]  And they have seen the self-interest in all of this stuff.
[59:51.520 --> 59:55.880]  So they're open to questioning the authorities on this.
[59:55.880 --> 59:59.240]  And I'm sure you must have quite a story
[59:59.240 --> 01:00:01.040]  behind a world without cancer,
[01:00:01.040 --> 01:00:04.080]  because I know they came after Leotrille and B-17,
[01:00:04.080 --> 01:00:07.280]  amygdala and all that in a very, very heavy way.
[01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:09.400]  I didn't realize that you had written this book
[01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:12.720]  until I interviewed John Richardson at rncstore.com.
[01:00:12.720 --> 01:00:15.960]  And when he was talking about the books that they have there
[01:00:15.960 --> 01:00:18.360]  and about your book especially,
[01:00:18.360 --> 01:00:20.400]  that's one of the main reasons I wanted to get you on,
[01:00:20.400 --> 01:00:22.040]  because this is so key.
[01:00:22.040 --> 01:00:25.960]  And it is a time that people are ripe to hear this message.
[01:00:25.960 --> 01:00:28.440]  Tell us a little bit about that, how you got into it.
[01:00:30.040 --> 01:00:31.360]  Well, there you go again.
[01:00:31.360 --> 01:00:32.760]  How did I get into it?
[01:00:33.560 --> 01:00:37.440]  Well, John Richardson Sr., Dr. Richardson,
[01:00:37.440 --> 01:00:39.360]  and I were very close friends.
[01:00:39.360 --> 01:00:41.600]  In fact, we had both worked together
[01:00:41.600 --> 01:00:44.240]  on projects in the Burt Society.
[01:00:44.240 --> 01:00:48.280]  And he put up some money to open up a little bookstore
[01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:50.240]  in the San Francisco area.
[01:00:50.240 --> 01:00:51.520]  And that's where I got involved,
[01:00:51.520 --> 01:00:54.880]  because I was with the Burt Society in those days.
[01:00:54.880 --> 01:00:57.880]  But we soon developed a personal friendship
[01:00:57.880 --> 01:00:59.560]  that went well beyond that.
[01:00:59.960 --> 01:01:02.160]  And it got to the point, well, after a while,
[01:01:02.160 --> 01:01:05.040]  we want to get away from the routine,
[01:01:05.040 --> 01:01:07.280]  the regular routine of our daily lives.
[01:01:07.280 --> 01:01:09.360]  And we'd like to get away from town,
[01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:11.600]  go out in the countryside and tell people
[01:01:11.600 --> 01:01:13.760]  we're going fishing or something like that.
[01:01:13.760 --> 01:01:18.760]  But we just go out and talk and do some hiking in the hills.
[01:01:19.240 --> 01:01:22.120]  And one day we're out doing that.
[01:01:22.120 --> 01:01:26.360]  And Dr. John says to me, Ed, I need your help.
[01:01:26.760 --> 01:01:29.280]  He took his briefcase with him on that trip
[01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:30.720]  I thought was strange.
[01:01:30.720 --> 01:01:34.720]  And he opened up his briefcase and pulled out some papers
[01:01:34.720 --> 01:01:35.560]  and fumbled through them.
[01:01:35.560 --> 01:01:37.840]  He says, I'm trying to write an article
[01:01:37.840 --> 01:01:40.960]  for a local newspaper or magazine,
[01:01:40.960 --> 01:01:43.880]  and I need your help writing, could you help me?
[01:01:43.880 --> 01:01:45.920]  I said, well, sure, of course, that's what I do.
[01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:47.080]  You're the doctor.
[01:01:47.080 --> 01:01:48.640]  If I get sick, you help me.
[01:01:48.640 --> 01:01:49.960]  I'm the writer.
[01:01:49.960 --> 01:01:52.640]  And if you're silly enough to ask me, I'll help you.
[01:01:52.640 --> 01:01:53.480]  I'm the writer.
[01:01:53.720 --> 01:01:55.000]  And if you're silly enough to ask me,
[01:01:55.000 --> 01:01:57.200]  I'll help you with the writing.
[01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:01.520]  And so he said, well, I asked him, I said, what is it?
[01:02:01.520 --> 01:02:02.680]  He said, well, I'm in trouble
[01:02:02.680 --> 01:02:05.880]  with a local medical association.
[01:02:05.880 --> 01:02:08.840]  They're threatening to take away my license.
[01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:10.160]  I said, what did you do?
[01:02:10.160 --> 01:02:12.920]  You know, like a typical, what did you do wrong?
[01:02:12.920 --> 01:02:14.160]  Yeah.
[01:02:14.160 --> 01:02:17.840]  Well, what I'm doing wrong is I'm saving lives.
[01:02:19.560 --> 01:02:21.160]  Oh, this was, this was-
[01:02:21.160 --> 01:02:23.080]  And now we've seen that story over and over again.
[01:02:23.080 --> 01:02:24.240]  People are ready to hear this
[01:02:24.240 --> 01:02:26.000]  and understand what's behind it.
[01:02:26.000 --> 01:02:26.840]  Yeah.
[01:02:26.840 --> 01:02:27.680]  I said, what do you mean?
[01:02:27.680 --> 01:02:28.840]  So naturally, he told me this story.
[01:02:28.840 --> 01:02:30.920]  He says, he said, I'm an eye, ear, nose,
[01:02:30.920 --> 01:02:32.880]  and throat specialist, as you know,
[01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.480]  but I've been getting people with cancer
[01:02:36.480 --> 01:02:38.280]  throughout their bodies, systemic,
[01:02:38.280 --> 01:02:40.240]  and they want me to treat them
[01:02:40.240 --> 01:02:43.600]  because they hear that I've got something that works.
[01:02:43.600 --> 01:02:44.800]  And I said, well, do you?
[01:02:44.800 --> 01:02:46.840]  He says, yeah, I do.
[01:02:48.840 --> 01:02:49.680]  Well, tell me about it.
[01:02:49.680 --> 01:02:52.600]  So that's how the whole thing started.
[01:02:52.600 --> 01:02:55.000]  He said, well, I found out there's a substance
[01:02:55.000 --> 01:02:57.920]  that's found in nature that I didn't believe in at first,
[01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:00.960]  but my office manager convinced me to look into it.
[01:03:00.960 --> 01:03:02.040]  So I did.
[01:03:02.040 --> 01:03:06.040]  This is a substance that occurs in nature and-
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[01:04:06.840 --> 01:04:09.960]  If you eat it, it turns out to be a natural control
[01:04:09.960 --> 01:04:14.960]  or prevention, a natural resistance against cancer.
[01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:17.360]  I said, how can that be?
[01:04:17.360 --> 01:04:18.720]  He said, well, I'm not sure how it can be,
[01:04:18.720 --> 01:04:20.200]  but I know that it works.
[01:04:20.200 --> 01:04:22.240]  So he's told me the story of this amygdala,
[01:04:22.240 --> 01:04:25.240]  or leotril is the more popular name for it,
[01:04:25.240 --> 01:04:28.920]  that's found in some 1200 edible plants, actually.
[01:04:28.920 --> 01:04:33.020]  But anyway, it's primarily found for commercial purposes
[01:04:33.020 --> 01:04:36.160]  in apricot seeds and peach seeds,
[01:04:36.160 --> 01:04:39.820]  and any fruit in the rosacea family
[01:04:39.820 --> 01:04:42.640]  has this stuff called amygdala in it.
[01:04:42.640 --> 01:04:44.320]  It's bitter to the taste,
[01:04:44.320 --> 01:04:46.840]  and that's why most people in the Western world
[01:04:47.320 --> 01:04:50.520]  or in affluent societies don't like to eat foods
[01:04:50.520 --> 01:04:53.560]  that have this substance in it, because it's bitter.
[01:04:53.560 --> 01:04:55.400]  If you've ever bitten into an apple seed,
[01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:56.960]  you know what I'm talking about.
[01:04:56.960 --> 01:04:58.840]  That's the flavor.
[01:04:58.840 --> 01:05:01.920]  And he said, that stuff in low quantities,
[01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.480]  it looks like it's a natural control for cancer.
[01:05:06.480 --> 01:05:07.320]  And he told me the story.
[01:05:07.320 --> 01:05:10.400]  All right, this gets interesting in the details.
[01:05:10.400 --> 01:05:13.280]  He had a dog that had cancer,
[01:05:13.280 --> 01:05:15.240]  and he was about to put the dog down
[01:05:15.240 --> 01:05:18.360]  because he tried chemotherapy
[01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:20.800]  and everything else on the dog that the doctors do,
[01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:22.320]  and it wasn't working.
[01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:24.080]  In fact, the dog was getting sicker.
[01:05:25.120 --> 01:05:26.360]  And when he heard about this, he says,
[01:05:26.360 --> 01:05:29.880]  I decided to use this substance on the dog.
[01:05:29.880 --> 01:05:30.840]  And he said, blow me down.
[01:05:30.840 --> 01:05:34.080]  The dog got well real fast, and I couldn't believe it.
[01:05:34.080 --> 01:05:36.200]  I'd never seen that happen before.
[01:05:36.200 --> 01:05:38.480]  And then the next part of the story is that he said
[01:05:38.480 --> 01:05:41.400]  his nurse came to him, his head nurse,
[01:05:41.400 --> 01:05:44.720]  whose husband had terminal cancer.
[01:05:44.720 --> 01:05:46.800]  And she said, Dr. John, you know,
[01:05:46.800 --> 01:05:49.600]  my husband is not gonna last very much longer.
[01:05:49.600 --> 01:05:52.240]  And I saw what happened to the dog.
[01:05:52.240 --> 01:05:56.160]  Would you please do that for my husband?
[01:05:57.080 --> 01:05:59.000]  And he said, well, sure, I'd be glad to,
[01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:02.280]  but don't tell anybody because it's not approved,
[01:06:02.280 --> 01:06:04.120]  for human use.
[01:06:04.120 --> 01:06:08.760]  And he tried it on her husband, and he got well.
[01:06:09.960 --> 01:06:11.120]  This is how it all started.
[01:06:11.120 --> 01:06:15.080]  And so John said, I started using it very, very cautiously
[01:06:15.080 --> 01:06:19.000]  and very low dosages and very suspiciously,
[01:06:19.000 --> 01:06:21.880]  making sure that I was not risking anybody's life,
[01:06:21.880 --> 01:06:24.720]  using it only on people who really had terminal cancer
[01:06:24.720 --> 01:06:26.320]  to start off with.
[01:06:26.320 --> 01:06:29.440]  And he said, I was getting way, way better results
[01:06:29.440 --> 01:06:31.600]  than anybody I know.
[01:06:33.000 --> 01:06:34.160]  And but the word got out, he said,
[01:06:34.160 --> 01:06:36.640]  I never advertised it, I never talked much about it
[01:06:36.640 --> 01:06:39.760]  because I knew what the establishment would say about it.
[01:06:39.800 --> 01:06:41.640]  It was quackery or something like that.
[01:06:43.160 --> 01:06:45.480]  But the word got out because these patients
[01:06:45.480 --> 01:06:48.600]  that are dancing out of the office
[01:06:48.600 --> 01:06:50.680]  when they came in on a gurney,
[01:06:52.720 --> 01:06:54.080]  they talk about it.
[01:06:54.080 --> 01:06:56.920]  And so patients started coming to his clinic,
[01:06:56.920 --> 01:06:58.840]  and it was no longer by this time,
[01:06:58.840 --> 01:07:00.680]  an eye, ear, nose, and throat clinic,
[01:07:00.680 --> 01:07:02.440]  it was a cancer clinic.
[01:07:02.440 --> 01:07:04.360]  And people were coming from all over the world,
[01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:06.120]  and I didn't know that at that time.
[01:07:06.120 --> 01:07:08.240]  So that's the story he told me.
[01:07:08.240 --> 01:07:11.160]  And he said, now the medical professionals
[01:07:11.160 --> 01:07:13.200]  found out about it, and they threatened me
[01:07:13.200 --> 01:07:15.400]  that if I don't stop this immediately,
[01:07:15.400 --> 01:07:16.960]  they're gonna take my license.
[01:07:18.040 --> 01:07:20.400]  And he said, I need to tell the story.
[01:07:20.400 --> 01:07:22.000]  Will you help me write it?
[01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:25.080]  I said, sure, that sounds interesting.
[01:07:25.080 --> 01:07:29.520]  I thought it would be a three day project,
[01:07:29.520 --> 01:07:31.640]  just to read about it a little bit,
[01:07:31.640 --> 01:07:34.520]  and ask a few questions and then just write it up.
[01:07:34.520 --> 01:07:36.120]  But it turned out to be,
[01:07:36.520 --> 01:07:39.720]  I don't know, a three year project.
[01:07:40.720 --> 01:07:42.560]  Yeah, something like that.
[01:07:42.560 --> 01:07:46.280]  And it changed my life, it just changed my life.
[01:07:46.280 --> 01:07:51.280]  I wouldn't be here today if I hadn't learned about that,
[01:07:51.560 --> 01:07:55.160]  because it made me realize
[01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:02.280]  that almost everything that we think we know
[01:08:03.240 --> 01:08:06.960]  that is really important in our lives, is a lie.
[01:08:08.680 --> 01:08:13.680]  When I realized that money was a lie,
[01:08:13.680 --> 01:08:16.680]  and now I found out that cancer treatments were a lie,
[01:08:17.720 --> 01:08:20.720]  what's more important than that?
[01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.120]  So that changed my life.
[01:08:23.120 --> 01:08:28.120]  And in my own family, I've seen,
[01:08:28.120 --> 01:08:30.600]  we have some members of our family that are alive
[01:08:30.640 --> 01:08:32.320]  because of the treatments.
[01:08:32.320 --> 01:08:35.280]  So I wrote the book, it took me quite a while.
[01:08:35.280 --> 01:08:40.280]  I sat at the feet of listening to the great scientists
[01:08:41.800 --> 01:08:44.200]  and doctors who really knew about this stuff.
[01:08:45.080 --> 01:08:47.760]  Dr. Richardson was very open about it.
[01:08:47.760 --> 01:08:51.200]  And of course, I met the originator of this whole treatment,
[01:08:51.200 --> 01:08:54.080]  who was Dr. Ernst T. Krebs, Jr.,
[01:08:54.080 --> 01:08:56.680]  who was the inventor of all that.
[01:08:56.680 --> 01:08:58.520]  Oh, not the inventor, but the discoverer of it,
[01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:01.680]  the chemical pioneer in using it for cancer.
[01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:05.640]  And I sat in his office many, many an hour,
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[01:09:10.320 --> 01:09:13.080]  well, let me think about that for a moment.
[01:09:13.080 --> 01:09:14.400]  And he'd go off on it.
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[01:10:18.920 --> 01:10:20.680]  How did he discover?
[01:10:20.680 --> 01:10:23.920]  Well, okay, his father was a doctor, an MD.
[01:10:23.920 --> 01:10:26.080]  He was not an MD doctor.
[01:10:26.200 --> 01:10:30.600]  He had his PhD degree from some smaller institution,
[01:10:30.600 --> 01:10:32.480]  which they like to hold it against him
[01:10:32.480 --> 01:10:36.000]  because it wasn't from Harvard or something like that.
[01:10:37.720 --> 01:10:41.160]  He was a PhD, but his doctor was a pioneer in that.
[01:10:41.160 --> 01:10:43.720]  So his doctor and his father,
[01:10:43.720 --> 01:10:46.720]  and he worked together on all kinds of herbal
[01:10:49.640 --> 01:10:53.520]  constructions from nature,
[01:10:53.520 --> 01:10:55.400]  because they had already discovered in their minds
[01:10:55.400 --> 01:10:57.920]  that nature has the cure, not the test tube.
[01:10:59.200 --> 01:11:00.920]  So that's where they were experimenting
[01:11:00.920 --> 01:11:04.840]  and they found that the use of laetrile or the substance.
[01:11:04.840 --> 01:11:06.640]  Now there's this whole big story behind it.
[01:11:06.640 --> 01:11:08.240]  So that's what the book was about.
[01:11:08.240 --> 01:11:10.080]  I'll just give you one quick example.
[01:11:10.080 --> 01:11:13.640]  One of the clues to this was the fact that in the Midwest
[01:11:14.720 --> 01:11:17.520]  was quite common for farmers to see that their cows
[01:11:17.520 --> 01:11:22.520]  would develop cancers of the mouth and lips and so forth
[01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:25.880]  and other parts of their bodies in the wintertime,
[01:11:25.880 --> 01:11:28.280]  but they would usually go away in the spring.
[01:11:29.720 --> 01:11:31.040]  And they thought, why is that?
[01:11:31.040 --> 01:11:33.320]  There must be something about the weather.
[01:11:33.320 --> 01:11:37.240]  Well, then they got to observing that it happened
[01:11:37.240 --> 01:11:41.240]  shortly after the green sprouts came up through the snow
[01:11:41.240 --> 01:11:43.280]  in the spring when the snow started to melt.
[01:11:43.280 --> 01:11:45.920]  And the first green grasses started to come up
[01:11:45.920 --> 01:11:49.280]  through the snow and the cows would eat the green grasses.
[01:11:49.280 --> 01:11:51.200]  And it turns out these broad leaf grasses
[01:11:51.200 --> 01:11:54.080]  are very rich sources of amygdalin.
[01:11:54.080 --> 01:11:56.760]  So that was the kind of clues that they had,
[01:11:56.760 --> 01:12:01.000]  how they discovered this is by scientific method.
[01:12:01.000 --> 01:12:04.640]  And so anyway, that's how it started.
[01:12:04.640 --> 01:12:08.120]  And so John asked me to help him write the article
[01:12:08.120 --> 01:12:12.480]  and I did, and that led to the book and that's the story.
[01:12:12.480 --> 01:12:13.560]  And then what happened?
[01:12:13.560 --> 01:12:17.560]  I bet that was a hornet's nest.
[01:12:17.560 --> 01:12:19.640]  When we look at what happened in the last few years,
[01:12:19.680 --> 01:12:21.360]  if anybody comes up with any treatment
[01:12:21.360 --> 01:12:22.680]  other than the one that they've decided
[01:12:22.680 --> 01:12:25.120]  they're going to sell you, they come after you in every way.
[01:12:25.120 --> 01:12:27.280]  We've seen that with ivermectin, HDQ,
[01:12:27.280 --> 01:12:29.200]  anything else that anybody comes up with.
[01:12:29.200 --> 01:12:32.640]  And so everybody, this has been on public display now,
[01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:35.720]  but you live this, I guess the book was written in 1970.
[01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:38.120]  You've done an update, I think in 2010
[01:12:38.120 --> 01:12:39.720]  or something like that.
[01:12:39.720 --> 01:12:42.840]  But this was back in 60s, I guess, where this was happening,
[01:12:42.840 --> 01:12:44.400]  but when you were publishing it.
[01:12:44.400 --> 01:12:46.840]  So what happened after you published this?
[01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:48.040]  What was the firestorm?
[01:12:50.040 --> 01:12:51.800]  Well, that's an interesting story.
[01:12:52.840 --> 01:12:54.800]  I published it and we sold it as a little,
[01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.600]  I had a little publishing company by then, American Media.
[01:12:58.600 --> 01:13:01.640]  And we had a very brisk sale on it.
[01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:06.640]  And I went to a book convention in San Francisco
[01:13:07.200 --> 01:13:09.280]  shortly after the book was published.
[01:13:09.280 --> 01:13:10.680]  And that's where all the biggies came,
[01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:15.360]  these big exhibits that half a block wide.
[01:13:15.360 --> 01:13:18.360]  And let's see, which one was it?
[01:13:18.360 --> 01:13:22.080]  It was a little pocket books.
[01:13:22.080 --> 01:13:24.320]  Bantam, Bantam, Bantam was there.
[01:13:24.320 --> 01:13:28.040]  And I thought, well, maybe we could convince Bantam
[01:13:28.040 --> 01:13:31.760]  to reprint this and put it on the big market.
[01:13:31.760 --> 01:13:34.480]  So it just so happened on the morning of the first day,
[01:13:34.480 --> 01:13:38.440]  the president of Bantam was there on the floor
[01:13:38.440 --> 01:13:39.800]  when I was there.
[01:13:39.800 --> 01:13:42.120]  And I saw this cluster of people around him.
[01:13:42.120 --> 01:13:44.000]  So I thought, I'll get in line.
[01:13:46.160 --> 01:13:47.560]  So I did.
[01:13:47.560 --> 01:13:50.320]  And so I went up, shook his hand.
[01:13:50.320 --> 01:13:52.120]  I said, I'll make this short, Mr. Smith
[01:13:52.120 --> 01:13:52.960]  or whatever his name was.
[01:13:52.960 --> 01:13:55.480]  I said, we have this book here on laetrile
[01:13:55.480 --> 01:13:56.840]  and it's curing cancer.
[01:13:56.840 --> 01:13:58.800]  You probably have heard about it in the newspapers.
[01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:00.200]  There's a big controversy over it.
[01:14:00.200 --> 01:14:02.760]  And I'd like to give you a copy and see if it sounds
[01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:05.840]  like it's something that Bantam would like to run with.
[01:14:05.840 --> 01:14:08.680]  So he gave it to his assistant who was standing next to him.
[01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:10.320]  And he said, yeah, well, we'll look at this.
[01:14:10.320 --> 01:14:12.880]  Well, they called me later in the afternoon
[01:14:12.880 --> 01:14:15.280]  and they wanted to have dinner with me.
[01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:18.520]  And they wanted to talk to me about printing the book.
[01:14:18.520 --> 01:14:21.000]  So make a long story short, we did.
[01:14:21.000 --> 01:14:22.960]  We signed a contract.
[01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:25.880]  Wow, we got Bantam to publish our book.
[01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:28.360]  And they put it out, they made it,
[01:14:28.360 --> 01:14:29.200]  they had a special name for it.
[01:14:29.200 --> 01:14:33.320]  It was a special edition that they can produce a book in,
[01:14:33.320 --> 01:14:36.160]  I think it's 48 hours, a lot like that.
[01:14:36.160 --> 01:14:37.800]  And they just work around the clock.
[01:14:37.800 --> 01:14:40.960]  They have teams of people and they work 24 hours
[01:14:41.000 --> 01:14:45.600]  to get the thing out in 48 hours or something like that.
[01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:47.520]  And they did that with this book.
[01:14:47.520 --> 01:14:49.360]  And it went on the book stand
[01:14:49.360 --> 01:14:51.800]  and it was selling like hotcakes.
[01:14:51.800 --> 01:14:54.760]  And then all of a sudden we got this message
[01:14:54.760 --> 01:14:57.280]  that it's out of print.
[01:14:57.280 --> 01:14:59.760]  Nobody can get the book, it's out of print.
[01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:01.080]  And so we checked it out.
[01:15:01.080 --> 01:15:02.080]  Sure enough, it's out of print.
[01:15:02.080 --> 01:15:03.520]  How come it's out of print?
[01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:05.480]  And I called the publisher and they said,
[01:15:05.480 --> 01:15:07.480]  well, there's no demand for it.
[01:15:07.720 --> 01:15:08.560]  No way.
[01:15:10.560 --> 01:15:11.400]  There's no demand.
[01:15:11.400 --> 01:15:13.000]  The bookstores are clamoring for it.
[01:15:13.000 --> 01:15:15.840]  Well, our statistics show there's no demand for it.
[01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:17.840]  Well, we couldn't convince them otherwise.
[01:15:17.840 --> 01:15:19.280]  They just didn't want to reprint it.
[01:15:19.280 --> 01:15:21.960]  So it was clear that somebody on the board of directors
[01:15:21.960 --> 01:15:23.840]  at Bantam got the word.
[01:15:23.840 --> 01:15:25.600]  Hey, you guys made a big mistake.
[01:15:25.600 --> 01:15:28.080]  You published the wrong book.
[01:15:28.080 --> 01:15:31.360]  And so we were clamped out.
[01:15:31.360 --> 01:15:33.280]  We had one printing and that was it.
[01:15:33.280 --> 01:15:36.520]  It was glorious for a few weeks.
[01:15:36.560 --> 01:15:39.240]  But after that, it was deader than a doornail.
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[01:17:05.720 --> 01:17:10.720]  Questioning what a lot of people just accept as fact.
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[01:17:39.160 --> 01:17:40.120]  and the Red Expo,
[01:17:40.120 --> 01:17:42.960]  which is coming up November 16th through 17th, right?
[01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:43.800]  Tell us a little bit about it.
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[01:17:45.920 --> 01:17:49.920]  We started the Red Pill Expos in 2017.
[01:17:49.920 --> 01:17:52.440]  And they've been just roaring successes.
[01:17:52.440 --> 01:17:54.680]  We were very skeptical about it at first
[01:17:54.680 --> 01:17:56.800]  because the Red Pill meme,
[01:17:56.800 --> 01:17:58.440]  in case there's anybody listening
[01:17:58.440 --> 01:18:00.280]  that doesn't know what that means,
[01:18:00.280 --> 01:18:03.320]  it's based on a sci-fi movie.
[01:18:03.360 --> 01:18:07.600]  It's about 21 years ago now called The Matrix.
[01:18:07.600 --> 01:18:09.040]  And the whole theme of the story
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[01:18:12.880 --> 01:18:15.280]  They were all wired up to machines
[01:18:15.280 --> 01:18:17.560]  and they were dreaming about their lives.
[01:18:17.560 --> 01:18:19.280]  They weren't really living them.
[01:18:19.280 --> 01:18:23.640]  And they thought they were going to work every day.
[01:18:23.640 --> 01:18:25.480]  They thought they were raising a family,
[01:18:25.480 --> 01:18:28.040]  going on vacation, eating meals and so forth.
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[01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.160]  And they were controlled by The Matrix.
[01:18:34.160 --> 01:18:35.800]  That's what they called it.
[01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:39.360]  That was this computerized reality.
[01:18:39.360 --> 01:18:41.880]  And the only way to get out of that
[01:18:41.880 --> 01:18:43.760]  was to take the Red Pill.
[01:18:43.760 --> 01:18:45.800]  There was the Blue Pill, which you could take
[01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:46.640]  if you chose to,
[01:18:46.640 --> 01:18:50.880]  which would put you back into the illusion.
[01:18:52.120 --> 01:18:53.120]  But to get out of the illusion,
[01:18:53.120 --> 01:18:54.560]  you had to take the Red Pill.
[01:18:54.560 --> 01:18:56.640]  It turns out that many people chose the Blue Pill
[01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:58.280]  because it was more comfortable.
[01:18:59.120 --> 01:19:03.320]  They'd rather not know that they were wired up to a machine.
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[01:19:05.800 --> 01:19:08.000]  It was more pleasant than knowing that
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[01:19:11.160 --> 01:19:14.360]  So it was kind of a good parallel to the reality.
[01:19:14.360 --> 01:19:17.480]  So we thought we would call this the Red Pill Expo
[01:19:17.480 --> 01:19:19.480]  and deal with topics like that
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[01:19:22.640 --> 01:19:26.480]  And that's underneath the illusions.
[01:19:26.480 --> 01:19:27.680]  And as I said a moment ago,
[01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:30.360]  it seems like the more important something is,
[01:19:30.360 --> 01:19:34.120]  the more likely it is that we are in illusions about it
[01:19:34.120 --> 01:19:38.040]  because it's to somebody's best interest to do that to us.
[01:19:38.040 --> 01:19:42.800]  They profit from our naivety and our false beliefs.
[01:19:42.800 --> 01:19:44.840]  Now, where can people go to get this?
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[01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:57.280]  But this time around, we decided to go 100% live stream,
[01:19:57.280 --> 01:19:59.280]  primarily so that we can cut expenses
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[01:21:04.160 --> 01:21:05.000]  Good.
[01:21:05.000 --> 01:21:06.320]  And one other question I've got about it.
[01:21:06.320 --> 01:21:08.440]  I see that you've got a new book coming out
[01:21:08.440 --> 01:21:10.960]  that's coming out, it's called The Chasm,
[01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:12.680]  The Issue Behind All Issues.
[01:21:12.680 --> 01:21:14.640]  When is that coming out?
[01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.000]  Well, the latter part is a tough one.
[01:21:17.000 --> 01:21:19.320]  Yes, I do have a new book, it's been coming out.
[01:21:19.320 --> 01:21:21.120]  It's been coming out ever since the day
[01:21:21.120 --> 01:21:22.600]  after 9-11 actually.
[01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:23.840]  Oh, okay.
[01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:27.960]  That's when I started to write it.
[01:21:27.960 --> 01:21:31.600]  The day after 9-11, that was, you talk about a red pill.
[01:21:34.680 --> 01:21:38.520]  But the whole purpose of the book
[01:21:38.520 --> 01:21:43.520]  is to provide historical support
[01:21:43.560 --> 01:21:48.320]  for the fact that our war today that we're in
[01:21:48.320 --> 01:21:52.320]  is a war of ideas, it's an ideological war.
[01:21:52.320 --> 01:21:54.840]  And it's not between the left and the right.
[01:21:54.840 --> 01:21:57.800]  It's not between the Republicans and the Democrats
[01:21:57.800 --> 01:22:00.440]  or the liberals and the conservatives
[01:22:00.440 --> 01:22:03.840]  or the Nazis or the communists or the socialists.
[01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:08.480]  All of these labels that we've been given to worry about,
[01:22:08.480 --> 01:22:11.360]  it's not the Masons, it's not the Catholics,
[01:22:11.360 --> 01:22:13.640]  it's not the Jews, it's not the black people,
[01:22:13.640 --> 01:22:16.440]  it's not the Christians, it's not the Muslims.
[01:22:16.440 --> 01:22:20.120]  All these divisions they want to get us focused on,
[01:22:20.120 --> 01:22:21.880]  it's not about any of that.
[01:22:21.880 --> 01:22:25.480]  Those all little subsections play a part in it,
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[01:23:28.160 --> 01:23:33.160]  Controlling dominating force behind it all is an idea.
[01:23:33.680 --> 01:23:36.440]  And it's a conflict of ideas, I should say,
[01:23:36.440 --> 01:23:41.360]  between something called collectivism and individualism.
[01:23:41.360 --> 01:23:43.080]  I found out in my research
[01:23:43.080 --> 01:23:45.120]  that those words were well known
[01:23:45.120 --> 01:23:48.880]  and used quite extensively 100 years ago.
[01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:50.880]  And you find them in the old books
[01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:52.920]  and in old newspapers too.
[01:23:52.920 --> 01:23:55.480]  But modern, no, it's all been scrubbed.
[01:23:55.480 --> 01:23:58.480]  And for good reason, because those two words,
[01:23:58.480 --> 01:24:02.400]  as strange as they are to the ears of most people today,
[01:24:02.400 --> 01:24:05.280]  are fully describing the conflict
[01:24:05.280 --> 01:24:07.840]  between left and right
[01:24:07.840 --> 01:24:09.720]  and all these things we mentioned before.
[01:24:09.720 --> 01:24:11.440]  When you peel off the labels,
[01:24:11.440 --> 01:24:14.720]  you find it's collectivism versus individualism.
[01:24:15.000 --> 01:24:16.960]  And so what is that?
[01:24:16.960 --> 01:24:18.360]  How do you define that?
[01:24:18.360 --> 01:24:21.480]  And that's what this booklet is all about,
[01:24:21.480 --> 01:24:24.440]  is I took all the issues in the big book
[01:24:24.440 --> 01:24:25.440]  that I'm working on
[01:24:26.400 --> 01:24:29.360]  to illustrate support for these principles.
[01:24:29.360 --> 01:24:31.800]  I've taken just the principles themselves
[01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:34.280]  and put them into a 50 page document.
[01:24:34.280 --> 01:24:35.800]  And I'm giving them away free,
[01:24:35.800 --> 01:24:38.680]  because I'm afraid I'm not gonna live long enough
[01:24:38.680 --> 01:24:40.600]  to get this bloody book finished,
[01:24:40.600 --> 01:24:42.160]  although I'm making progress.
[01:24:42.160 --> 01:24:44.600]  I wanna get these principles out now.
[01:24:45.600 --> 01:24:49.920]  So about 10 months ago, we made this little booklet here.
[01:24:49.920 --> 01:24:51.280]  This is 50 pages.
[01:24:51.280 --> 01:24:52.600]  Yeah, it's the Chasm,
[01:24:52.600 --> 01:24:54.800]  Collectivism versus Individualism.
[01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:57.800]  And it's everything I have learned about those two topics.
[01:24:57.800 --> 01:24:59.520]  It's all there in type.
[01:24:59.520 --> 01:25:01.320]  And we've got some good illustrations.
[01:25:01.320 --> 01:25:02.800]  You can see those in the back
[01:25:02.800 --> 01:25:05.320]  to sort of illustrate the points that we're making.
[01:25:05.320 --> 01:25:09.320]  I think I have found very few,
[01:25:09.320 --> 01:25:13.600]  very few open-minded people, and that's hard to define,
[01:25:13.600 --> 01:25:17.160]  but very few people who I would have considered
[01:25:17.160 --> 01:25:21.480]  to be on the other side politically from my position,
[01:25:21.480 --> 01:25:24.440]  that after reading this and going over these principles,
[01:25:24.440 --> 01:25:26.200]  doesn't come to the point where they say,
[01:25:26.200 --> 01:25:30.520]  hmm, hmm, I guess I've been an individualist all along
[01:25:30.520 --> 01:25:31.520]  and didn't know it.
[01:25:32.720 --> 01:25:33.800]  It's that simple.
[01:25:33.800 --> 01:25:35.400]  It's that clear.
[01:25:35.400 --> 01:25:39.040]  We get to thinking of, well, let me back off.
[01:25:40.040 --> 01:25:45.040]  The mantra of collectivism is this.
[01:25:46.160 --> 01:25:48.560]  The individual must be sacrificed.
[01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:49.400]  Yeah.
[01:25:49.400 --> 01:25:51.440]  As fully stated, it says,
[01:25:51.440 --> 01:25:54.880]  the group is more important than the individual.
[01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.480]  And the individual must be sacrificed if necessary
[01:25:58.480 --> 01:26:01.640]  for the greater good of the greater number.
[01:26:01.640 --> 01:26:03.600]  Boy, didn't we see that with public health
[01:26:03.600 --> 01:26:04.440]  and all the rest of the stuff?
[01:26:04.440 --> 01:26:05.840]  We see that with everything.
[01:26:05.840 --> 01:26:06.680]  Yeah, I know.
[01:26:06.680 --> 01:26:07.520]  We see that with everything.
[01:26:07.800 --> 01:26:09.960]  That's a good example because they don't care
[01:26:09.960 --> 01:26:11.560]  about individual health, right?
[01:26:11.560 --> 01:26:12.400]  No, no.
[01:26:12.400 --> 01:26:14.680]  We don't really care if you've had any issues
[01:26:14.680 --> 01:26:15.520]  with any of this.
[01:26:15.520 --> 01:26:17.400]  You're gonna do it for the public health,
[01:26:17.400 --> 01:26:18.240]  for the public good.
[01:26:18.240 --> 01:26:19.600]  Everybody's gonna have to do this.
[01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:22.480]  And I talk about that bureaucracy, the public education,
[01:26:22.480 --> 01:26:24.360]  and once they start talking about that,
[01:26:24.360 --> 01:26:26.240]  it is the collectivism that is there.
[01:26:26.240 --> 01:26:28.480]  You'll find this issue underneath all of them.
[01:26:28.480 --> 01:26:33.480]  That's why I say this is the issue behind all issues,
[01:26:34.320 --> 01:26:39.320]  literally, and look at Pearl Harbor, look at 9-11,
[01:26:39.440 --> 01:26:41.880]  look at COVID, look at everything.
[01:26:41.880 --> 01:26:43.360]  I don't care what it is.
[01:26:43.360 --> 01:26:46.680]  You'll find that collectivism is the answer
[01:26:46.680 --> 01:26:49.200]  of what makes all of that seem justified.
[01:26:49.200 --> 01:26:50.040]  Yes.
[01:26:50.040 --> 01:26:51.480]  Lenin put it this way.
[01:26:51.480 --> 01:26:54.920]  Vladimir Ilyich Lenin said,
[01:26:54.920 --> 01:26:59.000]  if you want to make an omelet, you have to crack some eggs.
[01:26:59.720 --> 01:27:03.880]  And now it can be said many different ways,
[01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:08.880]  but the greatest insults of history,
[01:27:09.600 --> 01:27:11.480]  the greatest outrages of history
[01:27:11.480 --> 01:27:14.600]  have been justified with this mantra.
[01:27:16.240 --> 01:27:19.560]  President Roosevelt and his team justified
[01:27:19.560 --> 01:27:22.840]  withholding information from American commanders
[01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:27.240]  on Pearl Harbor so that they were literally surprised
[01:27:27.240 --> 01:27:29.120]  by the Japanese attack.
[01:27:29.120 --> 01:27:30.760]  And they justified that,
[01:27:30.760 --> 01:27:33.600]  and they justified keeping the information unknown
[01:27:33.600 --> 01:27:35.360]  to the American people
[01:27:35.360 --> 01:27:38.720]  because it was a mark of statesmanship.
[01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:42.280]  It was a means of bringing about a greater good
[01:27:42.280 --> 01:27:46.720]  because it was necessary to convince the American people
[01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:49.880]  that we needed to get into World War II
[01:27:49.880 --> 01:27:51.440]  as quickly as possible
[01:27:51.440 --> 01:27:54.200]  so that we can sit at the peace table afterwards
[01:27:54.200 --> 01:27:55.760]  and when we do we divide the world
[01:27:55.800 --> 01:27:57.400]  and we'll make it a better world.
[01:27:57.400 --> 01:28:00.640]  And we probably would save millions of American lives too
[01:28:00.640 --> 01:28:02.480]  because the Japanese surely would have come over
[01:28:02.480 --> 01:28:04.600]  and bombed our cities and so forth.
[01:28:04.600 --> 01:28:06.040]  And you know, the average American said,
[01:28:06.040 --> 01:28:11.040]  oh, oh, yeah, I guess the 4,000 sailors we killed
[01:28:12.000 --> 01:28:14.840]  deliberately in Pearl Harbor was worth it
[01:28:14.840 --> 01:28:17.520]  because it's the greater good of the greater number.
[01:28:17.520 --> 01:28:21.680]  You know, everything that happens in this world
[01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:24.720]  that's horrible is justified by the perpetrators
[01:28:24.720 --> 01:28:26.440]  on the mantra of collectivism.
[01:28:26.440 --> 01:28:27.840]  Yeah, yeah.
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[01:29:31.040 --> 01:29:34.440]  It's time to break that hypnosis
[01:29:34.440 --> 01:29:36.400]  that that idea has over us.
[01:29:36.400 --> 01:29:38.440]  I learned that in school.
[01:29:38.440 --> 01:29:41.520]  They taught me that the greater good for the greater number
[01:29:41.520 --> 01:29:44.880]  was the ideal political position.
[01:29:44.880 --> 01:29:46.520]  And most people still think it is.
[01:29:46.520 --> 01:29:47.360]  Yes.
[01:29:47.360 --> 01:29:49.400]  Oh boy, we saw it in spades, didn't we?
[01:29:49.400 --> 01:29:50.320]  Absolutely amazing.
[01:29:50.640 --> 01:29:52.520]  And I think you're spot on with that
[01:29:52.520 --> 01:29:53.360]  and so many other things.
[01:29:53.360 --> 01:29:55.240]  It's so interesting to talk to you.
[01:29:55.240 --> 01:29:59.320]  And so many important insights throughout your life
[01:29:59.320 --> 01:30:03.760]  and your work has been very valuable to so many people.
[01:30:03.760 --> 01:30:08.320]  And I haven't read The World Without Cancer,
[01:30:08.320 --> 01:30:09.960]  but that's my intention to read that.
[01:30:09.960 --> 01:30:11.320]  That's very, very important,
[01:30:11.320 --> 01:30:14.560]  especially when we look at the last four years,
[01:30:14.560 --> 01:30:17.400]  how the veil has been pulled back
[01:30:17.400 --> 01:30:19.520]  on what the pharmaceutical industry
[01:30:19.520 --> 01:30:23.640]  and what the government supposedly oversight people
[01:30:23.640 --> 01:30:24.600]  are doing for the greater good.
[01:30:24.600 --> 01:30:26.720]  You know, when people die miserably and it's like,
[01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:27.560]  well, it's rare.
[01:30:27.560 --> 01:30:28.400]  It doesn't matter, right?
[01:30:28.400 --> 01:30:30.960]  It's for the better good, the greater good, the common good.
[01:30:30.960 --> 01:30:34.080]  So we're gonna approve this, this drug that is out there.
[01:30:34.080 --> 01:30:34.920]  Yeah.
[01:30:34.920 --> 01:30:35.880]  Thank you so much for joining us.
[01:30:35.880 --> 01:30:38.560]  And again, it's redpilluniversity.org,
[01:30:38.560 --> 01:30:41.200]  but you have redexpo.org.
[01:30:41.200 --> 01:30:43.200]  Is that the one where people go for the,
[01:30:44.320 --> 01:30:46.320]  for the red expo that's coming up?
[01:30:46.320 --> 01:30:47.440]  What is the website?
[01:30:47.440 --> 01:30:50.840]  Well, it's redpillexpo.org.
[01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:52.360]  Redpillexpo.org.
[01:30:52.360 --> 01:30:53.200]  Okay.
[01:30:53.200 --> 01:30:54.280]  Yeah, redpillexpo.org.
[01:30:54.280 --> 01:30:56.080]  If you go there, you'll see who we have
[01:30:56.080 --> 01:30:57.680]  as the upcoming speakers.
[01:30:57.680 --> 01:30:59.080]  We still have three or four
[01:30:59.080 --> 01:31:00.960]  that we haven't put on the page yet.
[01:31:00.960 --> 01:31:02.120]  They're all dynamite.
[01:31:02.120 --> 01:31:05.320]  These people all have a red pill to share with you,
[01:31:05.320 --> 01:31:07.560]  and they're all really, really important.
[01:31:07.560 --> 01:31:09.600]  And so it'd be two days.
[01:31:09.600 --> 01:31:11.800]  I mean, be prepared to be blown away
[01:31:11.800 --> 01:31:13.240]  by information like this.
[01:31:13.240 --> 01:31:14.080]  That's great.
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[01:31:15.120 --> 01:31:15.920]  That's great.
[01:31:15.960 --> 01:31:18.040]  Thank you so much for joining us, G. Edward Griffin.
[01:31:18.040 --> 01:31:19.640]  It's been a great pleasure talking to you.
[01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:20.480]  Thank you.
[01:31:20.480 --> 01:31:21.320]  Thank you, David.
[01:31:21.320 --> 01:31:22.160]  I really appreciate it,
[01:31:22.160 --> 01:31:24.280]  and it's good to see you again on the screen,
[01:31:24.280 --> 01:31:26.280]  and we'll be talking later.
[01:31:26.280 --> 01:31:27.120]  Thank you very much.
[01:31:27.120 --> 01:31:28.200]  All right, bye-bye.
[01:31:28.200 --> 01:31:30.520]  Well, what an inspiration G. Edward Griffin is.
[01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.760]  Real critical thinker, a visionary,
[01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:35.920]  a man with the courage to go wherever the truth leads him.
[01:31:35.920 --> 01:31:38.520]  And again, landmark books,
[01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:39.600]  You and a Fearful Master,
[01:31:39.600 --> 01:31:42.280]  Creature from Jekyll Island, A World Without Cancer.
[01:31:45.920 --> 01:31:49.360]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:18.920]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:32:45.920 --> 01:32:48.920]  ["Pomp and Circumstance"]
[01:33:16.200 --> 01:33:17.440]  Making sense.
[01:33:17.440 --> 01:33:19.120]  Common again.
[01:33:19.120 --> 01:33:21.840]  You're listening to The David Knight Show.
[01:33:35.040 --> 01:33:36.880]  All right, joining us now is Alexandra.
[01:33:36.880 --> 01:33:39.920]  She has an organization, Just the Inserts,
[01:33:39.920 --> 01:33:42.520]  at justtheinserts.com.
[01:33:42.520 --> 01:33:45.400]  You can also find her on Instagram under that name,
[01:33:45.440 --> 01:33:47.160]  Just the Inserts,
[01:33:47.160 --> 01:33:51.040]  and also on X under that name as well.
[01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:52.200]  And I wanted to get her on
[01:33:52.200 --> 01:33:55.400]  because many of you know our family's history with this,
[01:33:55.400 --> 01:33:56.560]  and I think it is very important.
[01:33:56.560 --> 01:34:00.640]  We've seen what has happened to the medical community,
[01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:05.520]  and we need to take control of what goes into our body.
[01:34:05.520 --> 01:34:07.160]  And so there needs to be informed consent,
[01:34:07.160 --> 01:34:08.680]  and that's what she is all about.
[01:34:08.680 --> 01:34:11.600]  Thank you so much for joining us, Alexandra.
[01:34:11.600 --> 01:34:12.640]  Thank you for having me on.
[01:34:12.640 --> 01:34:13.840]  It's a joy to be here.
[01:34:13.840 --> 01:34:14.680]  Well, thank you.
[01:34:15.440 --> 01:34:18.920]  The listeners here know the history
[01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.280]  of what has happened with my family.
[01:34:21.280 --> 01:34:26.280]  We just had our son was injured by what they call a floxin,
[01:34:26.280 --> 01:34:28.320]  some of the fluoro-chloroquins,
[01:34:28.320 --> 01:34:30.400]  and going back to Cipro.
[01:34:30.400 --> 01:34:35.160]  And when we went to another place
[01:34:35.160 --> 01:34:37.120]  where they had supplements, a drug store, we went in,
[01:34:37.120 --> 01:34:38.760]  and Karen and I,
[01:34:38.760 --> 01:34:40.360]  we were looking for a particular supplement
[01:34:40.360 --> 01:34:43.000]  that somebody had recommended to kind of counter that.
[01:34:43.040 --> 01:34:46.040]  And the person behind the counter
[01:34:46.040 --> 01:34:49.080]  that was the pharmacist there was wearing a mask.
[01:34:49.080 --> 01:34:50.760]  And the other person, you know,
[01:34:50.760 --> 01:34:51.880]  we told them, well, we're looking for this.
[01:34:51.880 --> 01:34:53.040]  And so why are you looking for that?
[01:34:53.040 --> 01:34:54.840]  And so we told them.
[01:34:54.840 --> 01:34:57.120]  And the other person that was there
[01:34:57.120 --> 01:34:58.440]  that was just kind of a helper,
[01:34:58.440 --> 01:34:59.720]  wasn't the pharmacist, said, you know,
[01:34:59.720 --> 01:35:02.120]  it's gotten to the point where those inserts are so scary.
[01:35:02.120 --> 01:35:04.120]  I don't even want to read them.
[01:35:04.120 --> 01:35:08.320]  And I thought, wow, that is the saddest thing I've ever seen,
[01:35:08.320 --> 01:35:10.160]  because you better believe
[01:35:10.160 --> 01:35:12.640]  that the stuff that is there is not only possible,
[01:35:12.640 --> 01:35:15.000]  but it was possible to such an extent
[01:35:15.000 --> 01:35:16.720]  that they put it in there to cover themselves.
[01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:18.040]  And so that's why I wanted to get you on
[01:35:18.040 --> 01:35:20.360]  and talk about just the inserts.
[01:35:20.360 --> 01:35:22.320]  How did you get involved in all of this?
[01:35:22.320 --> 01:35:23.640]  What's your background?
[01:35:23.640 --> 01:35:26.960]  Well, like you and probably most people listening today,
[01:35:26.960 --> 01:35:30.520]  personal experience with pharmaceutical injury,
[01:35:30.520 --> 01:35:32.120]  I was active duty military.
[01:35:32.120 --> 01:35:35.760]  And there were several times when I was serving
[01:35:35.760 --> 01:35:38.120]  that I had an adverse reaction,
[01:35:38.120 --> 01:35:42.200]  but it wasn't enough for me to dive too deep
[01:35:42.200 --> 01:35:44.360]  into finding the inserts.
[01:35:44.360 --> 01:35:47.560]  It was like, hmm, okay, I had a neck sprain
[01:35:47.560 --> 01:35:49.120]  and they gave me OxyContin
[01:35:49.120 --> 01:35:52.480]  and I ended up having severe constipation, that's odd.
[01:35:52.480 --> 01:35:55.000]  And it was just little things trickling here and there
[01:35:55.000 --> 01:35:57.120]  while I was serving that made me start questioning
[01:35:57.120 --> 01:35:59.840]  the products that I was blindly accepting.
[01:35:59.840 --> 01:36:02.640]  And then when I became a mother,
[01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:03.920]  or when I became pregnant,
[01:36:03.920 --> 01:36:07.000]  I was starting to become more natural minded.
[01:36:07.000 --> 01:36:08.920]  And I was in my third trimester
[01:36:08.920 --> 01:36:11.840]  and the midwife handed me a one page sheet
[01:36:11.840 --> 01:36:13.400]  on the Tdap vaccine.
[01:36:13.400 --> 01:36:15.880]  And I remember thinking, this is very odd.
[01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:17.920]  I cannot have most medications.
[01:36:17.920 --> 01:36:19.320]  I can't have raw cheese or milk
[01:36:19.320 --> 01:36:20.400]  or any of these other things.
[01:36:20.400 --> 01:36:24.000]  And yet an injection just didn't make sense for me.
[01:36:24.000 --> 01:36:26.880]  So I asked my mom to research it for me
[01:36:26.880 --> 01:36:28.760]  and she researched it.
[01:36:28.760 --> 01:36:31.440]  And then when she came back to me a few days later,
[01:36:31.440 --> 01:36:34.480]  she had so much anxiety and urgency in her voice,
[01:36:34.480 --> 01:36:36.720]  almost as if I was standing on the edge of a cliff
[01:36:36.720 --> 01:36:37.920]  getting ready to jump off.
[01:36:37.920 --> 01:36:39.840]  And it actually really turned me off.
[01:36:39.840 --> 01:36:43.200]  She started sending me all of this information
[01:36:43.200 --> 01:36:44.760]  of saying I was going to die.
[01:36:44.760 --> 01:36:47.600]  My baby was going to die if I accept this product.
[01:36:47.600 --> 01:36:49.600]  So naturally like any millennial,
[01:36:49.600 --> 01:36:52.040]  I went on Instagram and I started researching myself.
[01:36:52.040 --> 01:36:54.680]  And then I saw the other side, the other polarizing view
[01:36:54.680 --> 01:36:56.800]  that if I didn't accept this product,
[01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:58.600]  I was going to die and my baby was going to die.
[01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.760]  So I just felt that it was very polarizing.
[01:37:01.720 --> 01:37:03.240]  So because of who I am,
[01:37:03.240 --> 01:37:04.760]  I was trying to prove my mom wrong.
[01:37:04.760 --> 01:37:07.680]  And I wanted to just have what the government said
[01:37:07.680 --> 01:37:08.520]  about these products.
[01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:10.840]  I knew with my business background
[01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:12.280]  that every product on the market
[01:37:12.280 --> 01:37:15.200]  has to have some kind of legal documentation
[01:37:15.200 --> 01:37:18.440]  about the safety or effectiveness of that product.
[01:37:18.440 --> 01:37:20.160]  So I ended up finding the inserts.
[01:37:20.160 --> 01:37:21.840]  And as this was happening
[01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:24.320]  in parallel to me researching vaccines,
[01:37:24.320 --> 01:37:26.400]  I ended up having my daughter.
[01:37:26.400 --> 01:37:30.240]  I declined the B vaccine, I declined the I ointment,
[01:37:30.240 --> 01:37:33.240]  but I had a 44 hour labor and it was very traumatic.
[01:37:33.240 --> 01:37:35.160]  So I ended up accepting the vitamin K,
[01:37:35.160 --> 01:37:37.440]  the synthetic vitamin K injection
[01:37:37.440 --> 01:37:39.520]  because I was told it was just a vitamin K.
[01:37:39.520 --> 01:37:40.760]  It was just a vitamin.
[01:37:40.760 --> 01:37:43.360]  However, in hindsight, after reading the insert,
[01:37:43.360 --> 01:37:47.560]  there are other ingredients, including benzoyl alcohol,
[01:37:47.560 --> 01:37:50.720]  which now there's an added warning,
[01:37:50.720 --> 01:37:53.680]  boxed warning on the vitamin K insert
[01:37:53.680 --> 01:37:56.760]  that says it can cause gasping syndrome for infants
[01:37:56.760 --> 01:37:58.400]  and can be fatal.
[01:37:58.400 --> 01:37:59.720]  Of course, I didn't know this at the time.
[01:37:59.720 --> 01:38:02.120]  So my daughter ended up becoming injured
[01:38:02.120 --> 01:38:04.080]  from the synthetic vitamin K.
[01:38:04.080 --> 01:38:07.200]  And she had severe jaundice, she was colic,
[01:38:07.200 --> 01:38:08.800]  she had liver and gut issues.
[01:38:08.800 --> 01:38:13.000]  And I felt that the people that I had trusted,
[01:38:13.000 --> 01:38:14.520]  the people that I paid a lot of money
[01:38:14.520 --> 01:38:16.840]  to provide expert advice on,
[01:38:16.840 --> 01:38:18.360]  had not properly informed me
[01:38:18.360 --> 01:38:21.040]  of the potential known adverse reactions and risks
[01:38:21.040 --> 01:38:25.320]  that are on the FDA website that are on manufacturer inserts.
[01:38:25.320 --> 01:38:29.280]  So I desperately was trying to find answers.
[01:38:29.280 --> 01:38:31.200]  I went to pediatrician after pediatrician
[01:38:31.200 --> 01:38:34.000]  and every single time that I brought my daughter in,
[01:38:34.000 --> 01:38:36.440]  they were scolding me on not getting vaccines.
[01:38:36.480 --> 01:38:38.640]  And so here, my daughter had already been injured
[01:38:38.640 --> 01:38:40.160]  by a pharmaceutical product.
[01:38:40.160 --> 01:38:43.040]  Why would I introduce any more interventions,
[01:38:43.040 --> 01:38:44.800]  especially with what I had been researching
[01:38:44.800 --> 01:38:46.080]  on vaccine inserts?
[01:38:46.080 --> 01:38:47.720]  And so it just didn't make sense.
[01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:50.200]  And it made me dig my heels into the research.
[01:38:50.200 --> 01:38:53.400]  It made me start trying to find the answers.
[01:38:53.400 --> 01:38:55.000]  I don't have a medical background.
[01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.360]  So I was just going straight to the doc of resources.
[01:38:58.360 --> 01:38:59.800]  Cause my thinking was,
[01:38:59.800 --> 01:39:01.960]  if the government says this about these products,
[01:39:01.960 --> 01:39:04.000]  if the manufacturer says this about those products,
[01:39:04.000 --> 01:39:05.160]  then you can't really fight with that.
[01:39:05.160 --> 01:39:06.520]  It's pretty black and white.
[01:39:07.480 --> 01:39:09.680]  So I started sharing on my personal Instagram
[01:39:09.680 --> 01:39:11.080]  and I got shadow banned and censored.
[01:39:11.080 --> 01:39:15.200]  I lost a lot of friends in that process
[01:39:15.200 --> 01:39:17.360]  just by sharing doc of information.
[01:39:17.360 --> 01:39:19.640]  And that to me was even more of a red flag.
[01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:23.760]  Why am I being so ostracized just for asking questions?
[01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:28.120]  So I ended up praying, asking God.
[01:39:28.120 --> 01:39:31.200]  I remember distinctly, I was on my exercise bike
[01:39:31.200 --> 01:39:32.560]  and I had tears in my eyes
[01:39:32.600 --> 01:39:35.240]  because I had read story after story of injury,
[01:39:35.240 --> 01:39:37.920]  not just from vaccines, but from all pharmaceuticals.
[01:39:37.920 --> 01:39:40.760]  And I asked God for guidance.
[01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:44.360]  And I said, send me Lord, I'm here, I will go.
[01:39:44.360 --> 01:39:47.240]  And then over the next few weeks and months after that,
[01:39:47.240 --> 01:39:49.400]  I started getting inspiration to start an account
[01:39:49.400 --> 01:39:50.600]  for just the inserts.
[01:39:50.600 --> 01:39:52.160]  And that's how it started.
[01:39:52.160 --> 01:39:53.960]  I started originally on Instagram.
[01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:57.440]  It grew so fast, so quickly.
[01:39:57.440 --> 01:40:01.040]  I had over 148,000 followers on Instagram
[01:40:01.080 --> 01:40:02.440]  in just a few short months.
[01:40:02.440 --> 01:40:06.800]  And then a week before the COVID vaccine was mandated
[01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:08.640]  by the Biden administration,
[01:40:08.640 --> 01:40:11.960]  I was deleted off of Instagram with no warning.
[01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:16.440]  After the fact, Metta told me in their blanket statement
[01:40:16.440 --> 01:40:18.160]  that the reason why I had been deleted
[01:40:18.160 --> 01:40:22.760]  was because of a .gov study that I had shared.
[01:40:22.760 --> 01:40:26.400]  So I was deleted off Instagram for sharing .gov information.
[01:40:29.080 --> 01:40:30.360]  But it was a blessing
[01:40:30.360 --> 01:40:33.000]  because I was pregnant with my second child at that time.
[01:40:33.000 --> 01:40:34.840]  And I ended up realizing
[01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:37.880]  that I was spending nine hours a day posting
[01:40:37.880 --> 01:40:39.680]  and researching, and it really wasn't good
[01:40:39.680 --> 01:40:42.480]  for my own personal mental health and physical health.
[01:40:42.480 --> 01:40:44.720]  So I was off Instagram for about eight months.
[01:40:44.720 --> 01:40:47.720]  And then amazingly enough, for some reason,
[01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:49.760]  when Elon Musk bought Twitter,
[01:40:49.760 --> 01:40:52.200]  I was magically allowed to be back on Instagram
[01:40:52.200 --> 01:40:54.960]  that same day with the same username.
[01:40:54.960 --> 01:40:56.400]  All of my content had been wiped,
[01:40:56.400 --> 01:40:58.040]  but I was allowed to be back on.
[01:40:58.040 --> 01:40:59.640]  So I slowly started rebuilding.
[01:40:59.800 --> 01:41:01.200]  And during that eight month process,
[01:41:01.200 --> 01:41:03.200]  I had started focusing on my website,
[01:41:03.200 --> 01:41:05.400]  realizing, despite what we're told,
[01:41:05.400 --> 01:41:07.000]  the internet isn't forever
[01:41:07.000 --> 01:41:12.000]  and starting to create more solid foundations
[01:41:12.520 --> 01:41:15.920]  for my research, saving it on hard drives, things like that.
[01:41:15.920 --> 01:41:19.480]  I got back on Instagram, rebuilt my website.
[01:41:19.480 --> 01:41:22.040]  And then this year, after having my third child,
[01:41:22.040 --> 01:41:25.120]  I realized I needed to put all of this in a book.
[01:41:25.120 --> 01:41:28.680]  I needed to have a physical copy of all this research
[01:41:28.680 --> 01:41:32.320]  because it's so important for new parents, patients.
[01:41:32.320 --> 01:41:34.160]  Everyone needs to have informed consent.
[01:41:34.160 --> 01:41:36.120]  No matter your educational background,
[01:41:36.120 --> 01:41:39.640]  no matter where you come from,
[01:41:39.640 --> 01:41:41.440]  you need to know what manufacturers say
[01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:42.600]  about their own products.
[01:41:42.600 --> 01:41:44.040]  You need to know what the government says
[01:41:44.040 --> 01:41:47.360]  about their own products or products on the market
[01:41:47.360 --> 01:41:50.600]  that they have approved and are regulating.
[01:41:50.600 --> 01:41:52.120]  You need to understand all that.
[01:41:52.120 --> 01:41:53.240]  And it's really hard.
[01:41:53.240 --> 01:41:54.760]  They've made it really complicated
[01:41:54.760 --> 01:41:56.280]  to find this information.
[01:41:56.320 --> 01:41:58.720]  So my goal is not to replace research.
[01:41:58.720 --> 01:42:00.080]  It's to streamline research.
[01:42:00.080 --> 01:42:03.720]  So everything that I put out on Instagram website,
[01:42:03.720 --> 01:42:04.960]  emails is all cited.
[01:42:04.960 --> 01:42:06.360]  You can go find it yourself.
[01:42:06.360 --> 01:42:09.320]  And I just took step-by-step instructions
[01:42:09.320 --> 01:42:11.040]  or created step-by-step instructions
[01:42:11.040 --> 01:42:14.600]  on how to find and read manufacturer inserts.
[01:42:14.600 --> 01:42:16.040]  And then in addition to that,
[01:42:16.040 --> 01:42:16.880]  most people were like,
[01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:18.560]  well, why do I need to read an insert?
[01:42:18.560 --> 01:42:21.680]  And just like your story, you said the inserts are so scary.
[01:42:21.680 --> 01:42:23.240]  Why do I need to be reading them?
[01:42:23.240 --> 01:42:25.640]  And really the foundational element
[01:42:25.640 --> 01:42:27.760]  of all of this is informed consent.
[01:42:27.760 --> 01:42:31.440]  We deserve to have all of the information
[01:42:31.440 --> 01:42:33.040]  that the government and manufacturers know
[01:42:33.040 --> 01:42:35.120]  about this product at the very least
[01:42:35.120 --> 01:42:37.880]  to make well-considered decisions for ourselves,
[01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:39.960]  for our families and for our communities.
[01:42:39.960 --> 01:42:42.360]  And that's really why I continue to go today
[01:42:42.360 --> 01:42:44.040]  is I started with my own story,
[01:42:44.040 --> 01:42:47.480]  but what continues me to talk
[01:42:47.480 --> 01:42:51.280]  and advocate for other people is other people's stories.
[01:42:51.280 --> 01:42:53.000]  Even before we hopped on today,
[01:42:53.000 --> 01:42:55.000]  I was getting messages from people saying
[01:42:55.000 --> 01:42:55.920]  I was injured by this.
[01:42:55.920 --> 01:42:57.440]  I realized I was injured.
[01:42:57.440 --> 01:43:00.280]  How can I make more informed decisions in the future?
[01:43:00.280 --> 01:43:03.120]  And that's why I wrote my book.
[01:43:03.120 --> 01:43:05.040]  Yeah, we have to do our own research.
[01:43:05.040 --> 01:43:07.000]  I mean, the pharmacist isn't gonna tell you,
[01:43:07.000 --> 01:43:08.680]  the doctor is not going to tell you.
[01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:11.760]  As a matter of fact, I remember you talking about COVID
[01:43:11.760 --> 01:43:12.800]  and when that came in
[01:43:12.800 --> 01:43:14.560]  and when the hammer really dropped on people.
[01:43:14.560 --> 01:43:15.880]  I've had that experience as well
[01:43:15.880 --> 01:43:19.360]  because I pushed back against the vaccines
[01:43:19.360 --> 01:43:21.280]  and pharmaceutical in general,
[01:43:21.280 --> 01:43:23.120]  but specifically the vaccines.
[01:43:23.120 --> 01:43:25.960]  But I remember one person filming it,
[01:43:27.120 --> 01:43:28.960]  had the camera running in their pocket
[01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:32.920]  and they were giving out the COVID vaccine.
[01:43:32.920 --> 01:43:35.040]  She said, I'd like to see the insert for that.
[01:43:35.040 --> 01:43:36.440]  And I said, well, I don't know where that is.
[01:43:36.440 --> 01:43:37.600]  Well, could you get the pharmacist
[01:43:37.600 --> 01:43:39.920]  and tell him to come here so I could see the insert?
[01:43:39.920 --> 01:43:42.440]  They got the pharmacist and he says, I can't find it.
[01:43:42.440 --> 01:43:43.280]  This is really strange.
[01:43:43.280 --> 01:43:44.920]  There's supposed to be an insert for this.
[01:43:44.920 --> 01:43:46.760]  And so they did.
[01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:48.600]  And the reason why is because it was probably
[01:43:48.600 --> 01:43:50.840]  emergency use authors that authorized.
[01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:54.240]  So I had pharmacists messaging me saying,
[01:43:54.240 --> 01:43:56.400]  there's no insert or if there is an insert,
[01:43:56.400 --> 01:43:58.240]  it's a blank page.
[01:43:58.240 --> 01:44:01.800]  And so they did have insert like information
[01:44:01.800 --> 01:44:03.280]  called a fact sheet.
[01:44:03.280 --> 01:44:07.200]  But even then it was completely bare at the start of it.
[01:44:07.200 --> 01:44:09.440]  Yeah, when you look at this stuff,
[01:44:09.440 --> 01:44:11.520]  especially when you start to try to search it,
[01:44:11.520 --> 01:44:13.360]  you talked about in your story,
[01:44:13.360 --> 01:44:15.040]  somebody prescribes you something
[01:44:15.040 --> 01:44:18.280]  and I've gotten very careful about that.
[01:44:18.280 --> 01:44:21.920]  And so subsequent to my son's injury,
[01:44:21.920 --> 01:44:23.440]  we got a prescription for,
[01:44:23.440 --> 01:44:25.520]  I don't even remember what it was for.
[01:44:25.520 --> 01:44:29.440]  But I'm looking it up and it was something
[01:44:29.440 --> 01:44:31.600]  that was kind of innocuous and everything.
[01:44:31.600 --> 01:44:34.480]  But you go to WebMD and they'll just give you
[01:44:34.480 --> 01:44:36.880]  a regurgitation of what the pharmaceutical industry wants.
[01:44:36.880 --> 01:44:38.960]  You got to almost go to,
[01:44:38.960 --> 01:44:41.600]  and I'm glad to see that your site is up,
[01:44:41.600 --> 01:44:42.840]  because what I would do,
[01:44:42.840 --> 01:44:44.880]  I would go to look up the term
[01:44:44.880 --> 01:44:47.080]  and I would go to places where they're talking about it
[01:44:47.080 --> 01:44:48.200]  on Reddit or whatever.
[01:44:49.120 --> 01:44:51.760]  So that I can see what individuals experiences have been
[01:44:51.760 --> 01:44:54.560]  because the whole thing has been so covered up.
[01:44:54.560 --> 01:44:56.560]  It's absolutely amazing, isn't it?
[01:44:56.560 --> 01:44:59.280]  Yeah, there is a federally funded study
[01:44:59.280 --> 01:45:03.360]  that identified only 1% of vaccine adverse reactions
[01:45:03.360 --> 01:45:06.080]  and just a little bit more of that for all pharmaceuticals
[01:45:06.080 --> 01:45:08.920]  are reported in the passive surveillance system.
[01:45:08.920 --> 01:45:10.760]  And that's FAERS for drugs,
[01:45:10.760 --> 01:45:13.160]  the FDA's adverse event reaction system,
[01:45:13.160 --> 01:45:14.720]  and then VAERS for vaccines,
[01:45:14.720 --> 01:45:16.760]  the vaccine adverse event reaction system.
[01:45:16.960 --> 01:45:19.640]  We probably all know we've heard about VAERS
[01:45:19.640 --> 01:45:21.720]  because people were discrediting that
[01:45:21.720 --> 01:45:23.400]  after the COVID vaccines,
[01:45:23.400 --> 01:45:25.920]  almost as if it was just an office complaint box
[01:45:25.920 --> 01:45:28.840]  and that anybody could do a fraudulent report.
[01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:31.480]  However, if you go onto the VAERS website,
[01:45:31.480 --> 01:45:34.240]  it has a disclaimer that you could be fined and put in jail
[01:45:34.240 --> 01:45:36.040]  if you put a fraudulent report.
[01:45:36.040 --> 01:45:39.360]  And the FDA and CDC, HHS, NIH,
[01:45:39.360 --> 01:45:40.800]  they all speak to the importance
[01:45:40.800 --> 01:45:42.320]  of a passive surveillance system.
[01:45:42.320 --> 01:45:45.320]  So for any medical provider that is discrediting it,
[01:45:45.320 --> 01:45:47.760]  they're discrediting their own system.
[01:45:47.760 --> 01:45:50.520]  And I would caution them doing that.
[01:45:50.520 --> 01:45:51.480]  Oh, yeah, yeah.
[01:45:51.480 --> 01:45:53.600]  So when you're dealing with your doctor,
[01:45:54.600 --> 01:45:58.600]  what kind of things should you say to your doctor
[01:45:58.600 --> 01:46:02.160]  in order to have a relationship with them,
[01:46:02.160 --> 01:46:04.640]  to question what it is that they're giving to you?
[01:46:04.640 --> 01:46:07.320]  Let's start with that, with the doctor-patient relationship.
[01:46:07.320 --> 01:46:09.040]  That's a great question, I love it.
[01:46:09.040 --> 01:46:13.240]  So when you go into a doctor, you are seeking a service.
[01:46:13.240 --> 01:46:18.240]  They are providing expert advice based on the observations
[01:46:18.280 --> 01:46:20.800]  or any diagnostic tests or physical exams
[01:46:20.800 --> 01:46:22.560]  that they do in an appointment.
[01:46:22.560 --> 01:46:24.600]  So the first thing that you wanna make sure
[01:46:24.600 --> 01:46:27.880]  when you go to a doctor is that you understand the diagnosis.
[01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:31.720]  About 20% of diagnoses are wrong in the United States.
[01:46:31.720 --> 01:46:33.160]  And so you just wanna make sure,
[01:46:33.160 --> 01:46:34.800]  first up, right out of the gate,
[01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:36.720]  that you agree with the diagnosis
[01:46:36.720 --> 01:46:41.200]  and that you are sure that the observations
[01:46:41.200 --> 01:46:42.600]  that you've communicated to the doctor
[01:46:42.960 --> 01:46:44.840]  have been taken into consideration
[01:46:44.840 --> 01:46:47.000]  and that any observations that they may have
[01:46:47.000 --> 01:46:49.800]  for you or your child, you agree with.
[01:46:49.800 --> 01:46:52.160]  That's the first thing that you need to be aware of.
[01:46:52.160 --> 01:46:54.480]  And if you don't agree with that diagnosis,
[01:46:54.480 --> 01:46:56.040]  you have the right to say,
[01:46:56.040 --> 01:46:58.520]  okay, thank you for your expert advice,
[01:46:58.520 --> 01:47:00.480]  pay them for their time, and then go somewhere else
[01:47:00.480 --> 01:47:02.360]  and get a second opinion and a third opinion
[01:47:02.360 --> 01:47:03.920]  and a fourth opinion.
[01:47:03.920 --> 01:47:05.960]  There's no limit on how many opinions you can get.
[01:47:05.960 --> 01:47:09.440]  That is the right as an informed consumer that you have
[01:47:09.440 --> 01:47:11.520]  when seeking healthcare as a service.
[01:47:11.520 --> 01:47:13.720]  So if you do agree with that diagnosis,
[01:47:13.720 --> 01:47:16.600]  say you do find a doctor that you agree with,
[01:47:16.600 --> 01:47:19.200]  they're going to provide a recommended treatment plan
[01:47:19.200 --> 01:47:22.720]  that might include lifestyle changes, nutritional changes,
[01:47:22.720 --> 01:47:24.560]  or pharmaceuticals or other kinds
[01:47:24.560 --> 01:47:25.960]  of medical product supplements.
[01:47:25.960 --> 01:47:28.120]  And each of those categories,
[01:47:28.120 --> 01:47:31.320]  you have the right to accept, delay, or decline
[01:47:31.320 --> 01:47:33.560]  those products in that treatment plan.
[01:47:33.560 --> 01:47:36.280]  So if you do accept a product,
[01:47:36.280 --> 01:47:39.880]  you are observant of any potential adverse reactions,
[01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:41.840]  you communicate any changes to condition
[01:47:41.840 --> 01:47:43.600]  to your medical provider.
[01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:45.360]  If you decide to delay that product,
[01:47:45.360 --> 01:47:47.480]  maybe you want to gather more information
[01:47:47.480 --> 01:47:48.400]  about your condition.
[01:47:48.400 --> 01:47:50.920]  Maybe you want to research other alternatives
[01:47:50.920 --> 01:47:53.400]  within that pharmaceutical class or supplemental class,
[01:47:53.400 --> 01:47:56.400]  or maybe you want to come up with a holistic treatment plan
[01:47:56.400 --> 01:47:58.040]  where you have some pharmaceutical,
[01:47:58.040 --> 01:48:00.240]  some natural supplements, some lifestyle changes,
[01:48:00.240 --> 01:48:02.000]  maybe surgery, things like that.
[01:48:02.000 --> 01:48:04.320]  Or maybe you decide to decline that product
[01:48:04.320 --> 01:48:08.160]  and you can seek alternatives with that provider
[01:48:08.160 --> 01:48:10.080]  or find a new provider.
[01:48:10.080 --> 01:48:12.960]  So that's the basic process of informed consent.
[01:48:12.960 --> 01:48:17.960]  And all of it is in pursuit of having all the information
[01:48:18.000 --> 01:48:20.480]  that you need to make a well-considered decision
[01:48:20.480 --> 01:48:22.680]  about your health and your child's health.
[01:48:22.680 --> 01:48:24.600]  Yeah, from my personal experience,
[01:48:24.600 --> 01:48:26.160]  I had, after a heart attack,
[01:48:26.160 --> 01:48:28.600]  I had a doctor who was prescribing some stuff to me
[01:48:28.600 --> 01:48:30.040]  that I had some questions about,
[01:48:30.040 --> 01:48:31.920]  I think it was statins that he was doing,
[01:48:31.920 --> 01:48:33.280]  and I'd known about statins.
[01:48:33.280 --> 01:48:35.680]  And so I mentioned some of the things to him about statins
[01:48:35.680 --> 01:48:36.840]  and said, I don't think I want to,
[01:48:36.840 --> 01:48:40.240]  oh, you've been talking to Dr. Google, have you?
[01:48:40.240 --> 01:48:43.520]  And it's like, well, I guess we don't need to talk anymore.
[01:48:43.520 --> 01:48:46.000]  Actually, I have a funny story about that.
[01:48:46.000 --> 01:48:48.080]  And this, it always makes me laugh
[01:48:48.080 --> 01:48:49.480]  when medical professionals say this,
[01:48:49.480 --> 01:48:50.800]  because when I was military,
[01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:55.320]  I remember going to the doctor and telling them my symptoms,
[01:48:55.320 --> 01:48:58.440]  and they, I kid you not, swiveled around in their chair,
[01:48:58.440 --> 01:49:01.560]  got on their computer and got on Google in front of me,
[01:49:01.560 --> 01:49:06.240]  started searching my symptoms to try to find the diagnosis.
[01:49:06.280 --> 01:49:08.600]  And I remember that was such an aha moment,
[01:49:08.600 --> 01:49:11.160]  because I remember thinking, why am I here?
[01:49:11.160 --> 01:49:13.920]  The only benefit that you're providing me
[01:49:13.920 --> 01:49:17.040]  is access to a pharmaceutical that I cannot get myself.
[01:49:17.040 --> 01:49:20.400]  And it started to break down that perception,
[01:49:20.400 --> 01:49:22.280]  that preconceived notion that I had,
[01:49:22.280 --> 01:49:25.160]  that all doctors know everything that they're talking about,
[01:49:25.160 --> 01:49:26.800]  they don't all know everything.
[01:49:26.800 --> 01:49:31.120]  And I would also say that my community that I have,
[01:49:31.120 --> 01:49:32.960]  that Justi Inserts community,
[01:49:32.960 --> 01:49:36.160]  is predominantly medical professionals, many nurses,
[01:49:37.080 --> 01:49:38.560]  many doctors, many pharmacists, many surgeons
[01:49:38.560 --> 01:49:39.600]  have reached out to me saying,
[01:49:39.600 --> 01:49:41.880]  I was never taught this in school.
[01:49:41.880 --> 01:49:44.560]  I was never taught how to read and find
[01:49:44.560 --> 01:49:46.640]  and interpret manufacturer inserts.
[01:49:46.640 --> 01:49:49.360]  The only time that medical professionals
[01:49:49.360 --> 01:49:50.520]  in their professional training
[01:49:50.520 --> 01:49:53.280]  that have been exposed to manufacturer inserts
[01:49:53.280 --> 01:49:56.240]  are because pharmaceutical employees or representatives
[01:49:56.240 --> 01:49:59.720]  have contacted them, presented parts of the inserts
[01:49:59.720 --> 01:50:03.160]  to compare advantages to a competitor.
[01:50:04.000 --> 01:50:05.520]  And pharmaceutical representatives
[01:50:05.520 --> 01:50:07.720]  have confirmed that messaging me as well.
[01:50:07.720 --> 01:50:08.560]  Wow, yeah.
[01:50:08.560 --> 01:50:09.800]  And when you look at what the doctors are doing,
[01:50:09.800 --> 01:50:10.640]  in most cases like today,
[01:50:10.640 --> 01:50:12.760]  they'll look on Google themselves or the symptoms,
[01:50:12.760 --> 01:50:15.080]  and you stop and think about what they have become
[01:50:15.080 --> 01:50:18.480]  in terms of just a service that writes out prescriptions
[01:50:18.480 --> 01:50:20.040]  that you're not legally allowed to,
[01:50:20.040 --> 01:50:22.200]  things you're not legally allowed to get.
[01:50:22.200 --> 01:50:23.480]  Think how easy it's going to be
[01:50:23.480 --> 01:50:25.160]  to replace them with chat GPT.
[01:50:25.160 --> 01:50:26.720]  You know, it was about eight years ago
[01:50:26.720 --> 01:50:30.720]  that a study in South Korea said that by 2030,
[01:50:30.720 --> 01:50:32.720]  there was going to be massive unemployment
[01:50:33.600 --> 01:50:34.880]  and one of the highest things that they had there
[01:50:34.880 --> 01:50:37.040]  was doctors, about 70% of them.
[01:50:37.040 --> 01:50:38.440]  And if you stop and think what it is,
[01:50:38.440 --> 01:50:40.480]  typically it's just looking up the symptoms
[01:50:40.480 --> 01:50:44.800]  and matching it to whatever the big pharma wants you to buy
[01:50:44.800 --> 01:50:46.840]  for that particular drug right now.
[01:50:46.840 --> 01:50:49.520]  And so I think that's where this is all headed
[01:50:49.520 --> 01:50:51.560]  because they have basically
[01:50:51.560 --> 01:50:54.280]  made themselves largely irrelevant.
[01:50:54.280 --> 01:50:55.120]  But you know-
[01:50:55.120 --> 01:50:55.940]  I actually just, oh, I'm sorry.
[01:50:55.940 --> 01:50:56.780]  Sorry, go ahead.
[01:50:56.780 --> 01:50:57.600]  I was just gonna comment on that.
[01:50:57.600 --> 01:50:59.400]  I actually just read an article recently
[01:50:59.400 --> 01:51:02.440]  that said there were several hundred people,
[01:51:03.160 --> 01:51:05.440]  and I can't remember the institution that did the study.
[01:51:05.440 --> 01:51:07.120]  I'll have to find it and send it to you.
[01:51:07.120 --> 01:51:11.840]  But they took responses from chat GPT
[01:51:11.840 --> 01:51:13.400]  on certain medical conditions
[01:51:13.400 --> 01:51:16.120]  and then responses created by medical professionals.
[01:51:16.120 --> 01:51:18.520]  And they asked these study participants,
[01:51:18.520 --> 01:51:20.160]  which response do you like better?
[01:51:20.160 --> 01:51:24.360]  And it was overwhelmingly positive towards chat GPT.
[01:51:24.360 --> 01:51:26.760]  And it was interesting because they were saying
[01:51:26.760 --> 01:51:31.400]  medical professionals are less likely to be sought
[01:51:31.400 --> 01:51:33.360]  because people will go to chat GPT instead,
[01:51:33.360 --> 01:51:35.000]  which actually can be quite alarming
[01:51:35.000 --> 01:51:37.120]  because chat GPT isn't autonomous.
[01:51:37.120 --> 01:51:41.000]  There are parameters that the AI works within.
[01:51:41.000 --> 01:51:43.000]  So you do have to be careful of that,
[01:51:43.000 --> 01:51:44.840]  but I found that interesting.
[01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:46.000]  They will train it.
[01:51:46.000 --> 01:51:47.640]  And of course they spend a lot of time
[01:51:47.640 --> 01:51:50.120]  putting biases into the training.
[01:51:50.120 --> 01:51:53.580]  And so you can imagine it's going to be a fight
[01:51:53.580 --> 01:51:55.000]  from the pharmaceutical companies
[01:51:55.000 --> 01:51:58.040]  to make sure that the bias is toward their particular drug
[01:51:58.040 --> 01:51:58.880]  because they do that.
[01:51:59.080 --> 01:52:00.920]  When they run the tests,
[01:52:00.920 --> 01:52:02.960]  you got three pharmaceutical companies,
[01:52:02.960 --> 01:52:06.280]  they've all got their own drug for this particular condition.
[01:52:06.280 --> 01:52:09.680]  And you'll find that when pharmaceutical company A
[01:52:09.680 --> 01:52:12.160]  pays for the test and the study,
[01:52:12.160 --> 01:52:14.200]  that they will be found to be the best one.
[01:52:14.200 --> 01:52:16.600]  When the other companies do it,
[01:52:16.600 --> 01:52:18.320]  they will pay for the study to find
[01:52:18.320 --> 01:52:19.280]  that they are the best one.
[01:52:19.280 --> 01:52:22.840]  So it's going to be who gets to put the bias
[01:52:22.840 --> 01:52:24.480]  into the chat GPT.
[01:52:24.480 --> 01:52:26.460]  The other thing that's concerning about it, of course,
[01:52:26.460 --> 01:52:29.300]  is the fact that chat GPT does hallucinate.
[01:52:29.300 --> 01:52:33.020]  And so it's kind of like going to a doctor
[01:52:33.020 --> 01:52:37.460]  who is microdosing on LSD or something at the same time.
[01:52:37.460 --> 01:52:38.980]  You never know what you're going to get.
[01:52:38.980 --> 01:52:41.100]  It's like a box of chocolates.
[01:52:41.100 --> 01:52:42.340]  Exactly, exactly.
[01:52:42.340 --> 01:52:43.660]  Go to chat GPT if you want,
[01:52:43.660 --> 01:52:45.880]  but also read the insert just to confirm everything.
[01:52:45.880 --> 01:52:49.420]  And it's interesting you brought up the information
[01:52:49.420 --> 01:52:51.260]  from pharmaceuticals because most of the time
[01:52:51.260 --> 01:52:52.100]  when I read inserts,
[01:52:52.100 --> 01:52:55.320]  I completely scroll past the clinical trial data.
[01:52:55.360 --> 01:52:57.800]  You can manipulate all of that data
[01:52:57.800 --> 01:52:59.160]  into however you want to.
[01:52:59.160 --> 01:53:01.120]  And you can see it when you start to get
[01:53:01.120 --> 01:53:02.040]  into the weeds of it.
[01:53:02.040 --> 01:53:05.520]  And I wouldn't recommend anyone first researching vaccine
[01:53:05.520 --> 01:53:08.280]  or pharmaceutical products to go straight to that section
[01:53:08.280 --> 01:53:10.320]  because it is very overwhelming.
[01:53:10.320 --> 01:53:12.400]  I would recommend going to section 6.2,
[01:53:12.400 --> 01:53:14.560]  which is the post-marketing adverse reactions.
[01:53:14.560 --> 01:53:16.120]  According to the CDC,
[01:53:16.120 --> 01:53:17.700]  the definition of an adverse reaction
[01:53:17.700 --> 01:53:20.920]  is an undesirable medical condition caused
[01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:22.600]  by a vaccine or pharmaceutical.
[01:53:22.600 --> 01:53:25.440]  And that's why I would recommend going to section 6.2
[01:53:25.440 --> 01:53:29.480]  because in 6.1, you can start to see where some of the,
[01:53:29.480 --> 01:53:33.480]  oh, well, these sections of the clinical trial data
[01:53:33.480 --> 01:53:36.400]  was exempt from the study because X, Y, and Z.
[01:53:36.400 --> 01:53:38.300]  And then you start questioning, well, why was it exempt?
[01:53:38.300 --> 01:53:40.400]  Because that obviously would have skewed the results.
[01:53:40.400 --> 01:53:42.560]  And so I would recommend people skipping that
[01:53:42.560 --> 01:53:44.200]  when they're first starting to research.
[01:53:44.200 --> 01:53:46.520]  Yeah, and it changes so rapidly.
[01:53:46.520 --> 01:53:49.560]  We look at the fluorochloroquins
[01:53:49.560 --> 01:53:54.280]  and they continually tweak the formulation
[01:53:54.280 --> 01:53:56.800]  so they can, first of all, renew the patent,
[01:53:56.800 --> 01:53:59.520]  but then so that they can also make sure
[01:53:59.520 --> 01:54:01.480]  that you don't tie it to these other things
[01:54:01.480 --> 01:54:05.000]  that now have a track record that looks pretty bad.
[01:54:05.000 --> 01:54:07.880]  So they're constantly adopting a new alias
[01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:09.240]  is the way that I look at it.
[01:54:09.240 --> 01:54:11.040]  So how do you keep current with all this stuff?
[01:54:11.040 --> 01:54:13.060]  Because they're constantly changing it.
[01:54:13.060 --> 01:54:14.640]  I don't, to be honest.
[01:54:14.640 --> 01:54:16.960]  I try my best, but there's no way.
[01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:18.740]  There's no way I can keep up with it.
[01:54:19.620 --> 01:54:22.620]  Even on X, I try to follow all of the CDC,
[01:54:22.620 --> 01:54:24.620]  FDA, HHS, all these things.
[01:54:24.620 --> 01:54:25.980]  And it's always changing.
[01:54:25.980 --> 01:54:29.860]  There are always things that are being added or changed.
[01:54:29.860 --> 01:54:31.500]  Or I mean, even the flu vaccines,
[01:54:31.500 --> 01:54:33.460]  those get updated every year.
[01:54:33.460 --> 01:54:35.220]  And I've been doing this for four years now.
[01:54:35.220 --> 01:54:38.660]  And I've had to update my influenza webpage four times
[01:54:38.660 --> 01:54:40.420]  because they change so often.
[01:54:40.420 --> 01:54:43.340]  And sometimes they have a quad, you know, four,
[01:54:43.340 --> 01:54:45.220]  it covers four influenza strains.
[01:54:45.220 --> 01:54:47.080]  And sometimes it's three influenza strains.
[01:54:47.560 --> 01:54:49.320]  Now they're talking about the mRNA.
[01:54:49.320 --> 01:54:51.360]  And now they're talking about combining COVID
[01:54:51.360 --> 01:54:52.880]  and RSV and flu.
[01:54:52.880 --> 01:54:55.840]  And so if you go into it thinking
[01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:59.480]  that I'm going to learn everything human possible,
[01:54:59.480 --> 01:55:00.780]  you will overwhelm yourself.
[01:55:00.780 --> 01:55:01.780]  You'll burn yourself out.
[01:55:01.780 --> 01:55:05.000]  So my advice is that if you are being recommended
[01:55:05.000 --> 01:55:08.160]  a medical product by your medical provider,
[01:55:08.160 --> 01:55:11.920]  ask them to write down the trade name of that product,
[01:55:11.920 --> 01:55:15.880]  confirm the spelling, and then go to the FDA website.
[01:55:15.880 --> 01:55:17.400]  Or you can go onto Google,
[01:55:17.400 --> 01:55:19.120]  go onto your preferred search engine,
[01:55:19.120 --> 01:55:22.920]  type out that trade name with FDA insert after that.
[01:55:22.920 --> 01:55:25.160]  And then you'll find the manufacturer insert.
[01:55:25.160 --> 01:55:26.960]  And I don't, if anybody's listening
[01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:28.960]  and they're frantically trying to jot this all down,
[01:55:28.960 --> 01:55:30.960]  I have a free training course on my website
[01:55:30.960 --> 01:55:32.960]  that goes step by step on how to do this.
[01:55:32.960 --> 01:55:34.440]  I also have it in my book.
[01:55:34.440 --> 01:55:37.260]  And it'll teach you that no matter what product
[01:55:37.260 --> 01:55:39.800]  comes to market, you can research it yourself.
[01:55:39.800 --> 01:55:41.900]  You can find the information that you need to,
[01:55:41.900 --> 01:55:43.400]  if the information is available,
[01:55:43.400 --> 01:55:45.080]  as we already discussed with EUAs,
[01:55:45.080 --> 01:55:47.080]  that information might not be available,
[01:55:47.080 --> 01:55:49.080]  which I would argue,
[01:55:49.080 --> 01:55:51.040]  why is that product being brought to market?
[01:55:51.040 --> 01:55:52.720]  But that's a whole different discussion.
[01:55:52.720 --> 01:55:53.560]  Yeah, yeah.
[01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:56.560]  And you know, and today it is really imperative
[01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:57.920]  because we look at simple things, you know,
[01:55:57.920 --> 01:56:00.120]  just like antibiotics or whatever.
[01:56:00.120 --> 01:56:02.160]  And they're constantly changing them,
[01:56:02.160 --> 01:56:04.580]  changing the formulation and making them
[01:56:04.580 --> 01:56:06.000]  more concentrated and things like,
[01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:10.100]  so, you know, this isn't your mom or your dad's antibiotic.
[01:56:10.100 --> 01:56:12.240]  This is something that is very different.
[01:56:12.240 --> 01:56:16.040]  And because of the rapid change in pharmaceuticals,
[01:56:16.040 --> 01:56:18.000]  you really do have to keep track of this.
[01:56:18.000 --> 01:56:20.480]  And you really need to take it seriously.
[01:56:20.480 --> 01:56:22.120]  These people always dismiss it by, you know,
[01:56:22.120 --> 01:56:24.960]  whenever something happens, oh, it's rare, right?
[01:56:24.960 --> 01:56:25.840]  That covers everything.
[01:56:25.840 --> 01:56:28.040]  And it's like, well, evidently it's not so rare
[01:56:28.040 --> 01:56:30.080]  that it wasn't in the insert.
[01:56:30.080 --> 01:56:33.420]  And evidently, you know, even though it might not be
[01:56:33.420 --> 01:56:35.520]  a whole lot of people by your account,
[01:56:35.520 --> 01:56:37.520]  and we don't know because they don't necessarily
[01:56:37.520 --> 01:56:39.080]  bother to let us know,
[01:56:39.080 --> 01:56:41.160]  they'll list out a whole bunch of things.
[01:56:41.160 --> 01:56:44.080]  And that's the one thing that we need to not fall into,
[01:56:44.080 --> 01:56:47.000]  I think, is that mindset to tell ourselves,
[01:56:47.000 --> 01:56:48.960]  well, yeah, it says if I take this antibiotic,
[01:56:48.960 --> 01:56:49.800]  I could have a stroke,
[01:56:49.800 --> 01:56:52.180]  but I never heard of anybody having a stroke
[01:56:52.180 --> 01:56:55.800]  after an antibiotic and yet it happened to my mother.
[01:56:55.800 --> 01:56:58.520]  And so they've got it there for a reason.
[01:56:58.520 --> 01:57:00.040]  And we need to be careful about that.
[01:57:00.040 --> 01:57:02.160]  What about the healthcare providers?
[01:57:02.160 --> 01:57:04.060]  I mean, talk to us, you said you got a lot
[01:57:04.060 --> 01:57:06.880]  of healthcare providers who go to your website,
[01:57:06.880 --> 01:57:09.560]  justtheinserts.com.
[01:57:09.600 --> 01:57:12.160]  What is it that you tell them in terms of,
[01:57:12.160 --> 01:57:14.980]  and tell patients in terms of what the relationship
[01:57:14.980 --> 01:57:16.880]  should look like for informed consent?
[01:57:18.040 --> 01:57:22.240]  Well, I bravo to all medical providers
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[01:57:38.380 --> 01:57:41.340]  they publicly acknowledge they receive funding
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[01:58:43.540 --> 01:58:45.340]  Bravo to the medical provider
[01:58:45.340 --> 01:58:48.300]  that is seeking their own information
[01:58:48.300 --> 01:58:51.420]  and taking it on themselves to go outside
[01:58:51.420 --> 01:58:52.580]  of that training model.
[01:58:52.580 --> 01:58:54.660]  I love hearing that.
[01:58:54.660 --> 01:58:56.580]  And there are more and more medical professionals
[01:58:56.580 --> 01:58:58.060]  doing that just from the four years
[01:58:58.060 --> 01:59:00.340]  that I've been talking about this.
[01:59:00.340 --> 01:59:05.340]  So my advice would be that when you are first
[01:59:07.140 --> 01:59:08.260]  going to medical school,
[01:59:08.260 --> 01:59:09.740]  most medical providers go
[01:59:09.740 --> 01:59:11.580]  because they wanna help their patients,
[01:59:11.580 --> 01:59:13.740]  because they want to heal,
[01:59:13.740 --> 01:59:17.620]  because they want to see someone come into their office hurt
[01:59:17.620 --> 01:59:20.660]  and in pain and for them to leave to be better.
[01:59:20.660 --> 01:59:22.260]  And for them to understand
[01:59:22.260 --> 01:59:25.460]  that researching manufacturer inserts,
[01:59:25.460 --> 01:59:28.500]  researching potential non-pharmaceutical alternatives
[01:59:28.500 --> 01:59:29.860]  helps you do that.
[01:59:30.300 --> 01:59:33.380]  Pharmaceutical companies are not the arbiters of science.
[01:59:33.380 --> 01:59:36.500]  They are not the only ones that exercise science
[01:59:36.500 --> 01:59:38.900]  in pursuit of health and in pursuit of wellness.
[01:59:38.900 --> 01:59:42.620]  And I actually have an entire chapter of that in my book.
[01:59:42.620 --> 01:59:44.580]  And I cite from .gov resources,
[01:59:44.580 --> 01:59:47.580]  I cite from the NIH about chiropractic care,
[01:59:47.580 --> 01:59:49.260]  about Ayurvedic care,
[01:59:49.260 --> 01:59:51.820]  about traditional Chinese medicine.
[01:59:51.820 --> 01:59:56.700]  There are all these other models of health and healing
[01:59:56.700 --> 01:59:59.700]  that are accepted across the United States
[02:00:00.540 --> 02:00:01.380]  and there was a study that was done
[02:00:01.380 --> 02:00:02.700]  and this was about 10 years ago.
[02:00:02.700 --> 02:00:04.900]  And I believe it was 30% of Americans
[02:00:04.900 --> 02:00:07.020]  have had some kind of experience
[02:00:07.020 --> 02:00:10.020]  with unconventional healthcare is what they would call it.
[02:00:10.020 --> 02:00:13.500]  And so my advice to anyone researching is yes,
[02:00:13.500 --> 02:00:15.500]  utilize the tools that are available to you,
[02:00:15.500 --> 02:00:18.300]  make informed decisions about them by reading the inserts,
[02:00:18.300 --> 02:00:21.020]  but also understand that there's not just those tools,
[02:00:21.020 --> 02:00:25.180]  there's a whole world of healthcare available to us.
[02:00:25.180 --> 02:00:27.420]  And I was actually able to attend
[02:00:27.420 --> 02:00:29.500]  the Senate round table discussion
[02:00:29.500 --> 02:00:32.260]  with Senator Ron Johnson in DC in person.
[02:00:32.260 --> 02:00:34.380]  And Robert Kennedy Jr,
[02:00:34.380 --> 02:00:36.980]  he at the end of his closing comments,
[02:00:36.980 --> 02:00:40.580]  he spoke to the entrepreneurial spirit of Americans
[02:00:40.580 --> 02:00:42.980]  and how there are healthcare providers
[02:00:42.980 --> 02:00:45.340]  going outside of the insurance models,
[02:00:45.340 --> 02:00:48.500]  going outside of traditional healthcare
[02:00:48.500 --> 02:00:50.540]  to provide health to patients.
[02:00:50.540 --> 02:00:55.060]  They might not be as marketed as well as other professionals
[02:00:55.060 --> 02:00:57.140]  or they might not even have websites,
[02:00:57.860 --> 02:01:01.780]  but they're out there and to start for them to realize
[02:01:01.780 --> 02:01:03.420]  that they can take their business
[02:01:03.420 --> 02:01:06.900]  and not be so beholden to third party entities
[02:01:06.900 --> 02:01:09.260]  or to insurance companies
[02:01:09.260 --> 02:01:11.980]  to accomplish their goal of helping people.
[02:01:11.980 --> 02:01:13.780]  Yeah, of course, part of the problem that we saw,
[02:01:13.780 --> 02:01:16.540]  especially through COVID was anybody who bucked the system
[02:01:16.540 --> 02:01:20.460]  and there's this whole like union or guild
[02:01:20.460 --> 02:01:21.700]  or whatever it is and they'll come back
[02:01:21.700 --> 02:01:23.540]  and because everything is licensed
[02:01:23.540 --> 02:01:25.140]  and tightly controlled like that,
[02:01:25.140 --> 02:01:27.900]  we saw so many people get purged out of the system
[02:01:27.900 --> 02:01:31.420]  who did want to offer people different alternatives.
[02:01:31.420 --> 02:01:33.820]  And of course, what the AMA has been pushing
[02:01:33.820 --> 02:01:35.780]  for a very long time after the Rockefellers
[02:01:35.780 --> 02:01:38.740]  is a paradigm of disease is something
[02:01:38.740 --> 02:01:39.740]  that's gotta be killed.
[02:01:39.740 --> 02:01:41.820]  Well, unfortunately, sometimes the stuff that you use
[02:01:41.820 --> 02:01:44.740]  to kill the disease also kills you.
[02:01:44.740 --> 02:01:46.580]  Sometimes it kills parts of your body.
[02:01:46.580 --> 02:01:48.100]  Sometimes it's not just temporary.
[02:01:48.100 --> 02:01:49.660]  Sometimes it is permanent.
[02:01:49.660 --> 02:01:51.460]  And that's one of the things that's concerning
[02:01:51.460 --> 02:01:53.780]  about some of these antibiotics that are out there.
[02:01:53.780 --> 02:01:57.020]  It's that model, rather than building up your body
[02:01:57.020 --> 02:01:59.780]  and strengthening your immune system,
[02:01:59.780 --> 02:02:03.060]  doing things that are going to destroy your immune system
[02:02:03.060 --> 02:02:05.540]  or destroy other parts of your body, that's the key thing.
[02:02:05.540 --> 02:02:06.780]  And so it is a very,
[02:02:06.780 --> 02:02:08.580]  there are a lot of different paradigms out there.
[02:02:08.580 --> 02:02:09.420]  You're right.
[02:02:09.420 --> 02:02:12.500]  And it is very important for people to consider that.
[02:02:12.500 --> 02:02:15.380]  And I'm sure you've got some of that on your website
[02:02:15.380 --> 02:02:18.940]  as far as informed consent, different alternatives.
[02:02:18.940 --> 02:02:19.780]  Yeah.
[02:02:19.780 --> 02:02:22.740]  Yes, and I also have resources available
[02:02:22.740 --> 02:02:24.500]  in my training course and in my book,
[02:02:24.500 --> 02:02:27.180]  Physicians for Informed Consent is another great resource.
[02:02:27.180 --> 02:02:30.260]  And they actually just did an article discussing
[02:02:30.260 --> 02:02:32.380]  how for the flu vaccine,
[02:02:32.380 --> 02:02:35.020]  those that accepted the flu vaccine,
[02:02:35.020 --> 02:02:37.260]  the effectiveness overall isn't very good
[02:02:37.260 --> 02:02:38.100]  for the flu vaccine.
[02:02:38.100 --> 02:02:39.740]  I believe it's around 40%.
[02:02:39.740 --> 02:02:42.020]  But there was a study that was done
[02:02:42.020 --> 02:02:44.180]  that those that had accepted the flu vaccine
[02:02:44.180 --> 02:02:45.820]  were actually at a higher risk
[02:02:45.820 --> 02:02:48.220]  of other respiratory illnesses.
[02:02:48.220 --> 02:02:51.740]  And so understanding many of the discussions
[02:02:51.740 --> 02:02:54.100]  that are done in a pediatrician's office
[02:02:54.100 --> 02:02:57.460]  in a provider primary care physician's office,
[02:02:57.460 --> 02:02:59.100]  the discussion is very siloed.
[02:02:59.100 --> 02:03:02.220]  It's very, okay, we're gonna discuss flu.
[02:03:02.220 --> 02:03:05.820]  And this is the product that you need to get for flu,
[02:03:05.820 --> 02:03:08.180]  but they're not realizing what about the whole health?
[02:03:08.180 --> 02:03:09.780]  What about the whole body?
[02:03:09.780 --> 02:03:14.220]  Is this vaccine potentially going to cause issues elsewhere?
[02:03:14.220 --> 02:03:17.660]  Is it going to inhibit an immune response
[02:03:17.660 --> 02:03:21.100]  when this patient is exposed to other viruses
[02:03:21.100 --> 02:03:23.260]  or maybe like you discussed,
[02:03:23.260 --> 02:03:25.740]  is it going to overtax their liver?
[02:03:25.740 --> 02:03:29.620]  And so they might not be able to detox the excipients
[02:03:29.620 --> 02:03:33.340]  in this product or is it going to kill their gut microbiome?
[02:03:33.340 --> 02:03:36.260]  There are so many other things that I believe
[02:03:36.260 --> 02:03:39.980]  the medical industry as a whole are not considering.
[02:03:39.980 --> 02:03:41.300]  They are just very siloed
[02:03:41.300 --> 02:03:44.300]  and they're very focused on just one topic.
[02:03:44.300 --> 02:03:46.420]  And one thing that I've noticed too reading inserts
[02:03:46.420 --> 02:03:48.940]  is that there are so many inserts that say
[02:03:48.980 --> 02:03:51.260]  that they lower the effectiveness of other products.
[02:03:51.260 --> 02:03:53.140]  The great example is typhoid vaccine.
[02:03:53.140 --> 02:03:54.220]  And I discussed this in the book.
[02:03:54.220 --> 02:03:55.820]  I get asked all the time about people
[02:03:55.820 --> 02:03:57.980]  that are traveling internationally
[02:03:57.980 --> 02:04:00.740]  about international vaccines.
[02:04:00.740 --> 02:04:04.580]  And it says on the CDC website and on the manufacturer insert
[02:04:04.580 --> 02:04:07.340]  that the typhoid vaccine is limited.
[02:04:07.340 --> 02:04:10.620]  The effectiveness of it is limited
[02:04:10.620 --> 02:04:12.980]  when you take anti-malaria drugs.
[02:04:12.980 --> 02:04:15.500]  And so if you travel to a place like India,
[02:04:15.540 --> 02:04:19.220]  the CDC says, yes, take the typhoid vaccine
[02:04:19.220 --> 02:04:21.220]  but also take your anti-malaria drugs.
[02:04:21.220 --> 02:04:23.580]  And then on the insert, it says the effectiveness
[02:04:23.580 --> 02:04:25.740]  of the typhoid vaccine is limited
[02:04:25.740 --> 02:04:27.780]  by taking anti-malaria drugs.
[02:04:27.780 --> 02:04:31.700]  And so just understanding that when you take a product,
[02:04:31.700 --> 02:04:34.620]  it could be limiting the effectiveness of another product
[02:04:34.620 --> 02:04:37.420]  or your body's immune response as a whole.
[02:04:37.420 --> 02:04:38.900]  Yeah, when we look at drug interactions,
[02:04:38.900 --> 02:04:41.700]  that's one of the things that I've started to look at.
[02:04:42.700 --> 02:04:44.180]  Somebody recommends something to me
[02:04:44.180 --> 02:04:47.420]  for a blood thinner, for example, since I have Afib.
[02:04:47.420 --> 02:04:48.940]  They wouldn't put me on a blood thinner.
[02:04:48.940 --> 02:04:53.940]  And as I look at it, and I look at some products
[02:04:54.180 --> 02:04:55.500]  or I look at a particular blood thinner
[02:04:55.500 --> 02:04:56.900]  and the blood thinner says,
[02:04:57.940 --> 02:04:59.860]  don't take it with these other things.
[02:04:59.860 --> 02:05:02.020]  It's like, oh, okay, so then those other things
[02:05:02.020 --> 02:05:03.460]  would also thin my blood.
[02:05:03.460 --> 02:05:05.100]  Maybe they're not as dangerous.
[02:05:05.100 --> 02:05:09.260]  You know, or vice versa.
[02:05:09.260 --> 02:05:11.940]  You know, you go to the natural supplement
[02:05:11.940 --> 02:05:13.580]  and it says, you know, be careful
[02:05:13.580 --> 02:05:16.140]  if you're taking blood thinners or whatever.
[02:05:16.140 --> 02:05:17.900]  It's gonna lower your blood pressure.
[02:05:17.900 --> 02:05:19.580]  It's gonna thin your blood some more, whatever.
[02:05:19.580 --> 02:05:23.140]  So I've basically used that to avoid some pharmaceuticals
[02:05:23.140 --> 02:05:23.980]  when I look at it.
[02:05:23.980 --> 02:05:27.020]  But you know, part of this, you mentioned your story.
[02:05:27.020 --> 02:05:30.900]  Your mother doing research and trying to warn you about it.
[02:05:30.900 --> 02:05:34.140]  And when we have friends or we have family
[02:05:34.140 --> 02:05:36.260]  and we know something and we see something
[02:05:36.260 --> 02:05:37.700]  that is alarming like that,
[02:05:37.700 --> 02:05:40.620]  we wanna grab them by the lapel and say, don't do it
[02:05:40.620 --> 02:05:41.980]  like you talked about.
[02:05:41.980 --> 02:05:44.060]  You said it was like your mother was like,
[02:05:44.060 --> 02:05:46.140]  you were standing on the edge of a cliff about to fall off.
[02:05:46.140 --> 02:05:47.660]  And that's the way we feel about it.
[02:05:47.660 --> 02:05:51.260]  And so we get very compassionate about it.
[02:05:51.260 --> 02:05:54.020]  What is the best way to approach other people
[02:05:54.020 --> 02:05:55.500]  that you have found?
[02:05:56.580 --> 02:05:57.540]  That's really hard.
[02:05:57.540 --> 02:05:58.940]  It's really complicated,
[02:05:58.940 --> 02:06:01.500]  especially when we have external forces,
[02:06:01.500 --> 02:06:03.980]  either a government mandating the product
[02:06:03.980 --> 02:06:08.620]  or we have the social and cultural external pushes
[02:06:08.620 --> 02:06:11.020]  of the marketing posts of saying,
[02:06:11.020 --> 02:06:12.620]  get this to protect your grandma
[02:06:12.620 --> 02:06:15.180]  or get this to protect community.
[02:06:15.180 --> 02:06:16.020]  It's very hard.
[02:06:16.020 --> 02:06:17.980]  And I think upfront, we need to address that
[02:06:17.980 --> 02:06:20.780]  because it is a very delicate balance to strike.
[02:06:20.780 --> 02:06:22.460]  And I believe it really depends
[02:06:22.460 --> 02:06:24.740]  on your personal relationship with that person,
[02:06:24.740 --> 02:06:26.420]  understanding their personality,
[02:06:26.420 --> 02:06:29.060]  understanding what is going to resonate with them
[02:06:29.060 --> 02:06:30.620]  for them to start researching.
[02:06:30.620 --> 02:06:32.380]  I'm not the type of person to be told what to do.
[02:06:32.380 --> 02:06:34.140]  And so my mother should have known
[02:06:34.140 --> 02:06:37.220]  not to go through with that angle, but I understand.
[02:06:37.220 --> 02:06:39.340]  I understand now that I've done the research,
[02:06:39.340 --> 02:06:40.620]  why she felt that way,
[02:06:40.620 --> 02:06:43.660]  especially because I was in my third trimester,
[02:06:43.660 --> 02:06:46.540]  I was getting ready to have that product
[02:06:46.540 --> 02:06:47.500]  at my next appointment.
[02:06:47.500 --> 02:06:50.220]  And so I do understand her sense of urgency.
[02:06:50.220 --> 02:06:51.060]  And one of the things that-
[02:06:51.060 --> 02:06:52.340]  They used to never vaccinate pregnant women.
[02:06:52.340 --> 02:06:57.100]  And then they crossed that Rubicon
[02:06:57.100 --> 02:06:58.620]  and then through COVID and everything,
[02:06:58.620 --> 02:07:00.540]  they were demanding that pregnant women
[02:07:00.540 --> 02:07:02.060]  get vaccinated with this and that.
[02:07:02.060 --> 02:07:06.260]  I mean, it really is amazing how this is all set up.
[02:07:06.420 --> 02:07:08.620]  And again, going back to the paradigm,
[02:07:08.620 --> 02:07:10.620]  it's kind of the sense that
[02:07:10.620 --> 02:07:12.860]  if we can kill whatever that thing is
[02:07:12.860 --> 02:07:14.380]  that we think ails you,
[02:07:15.460 --> 02:07:17.900]  the operation is successful,
[02:07:17.900 --> 02:07:19.540]  maybe the patient dies, but we don't care
[02:07:19.540 --> 02:07:20.940]  as long as the operation is successful,
[02:07:20.940 --> 02:07:23.500]  rather than first do no harm.
[02:07:23.500 --> 02:07:26.140]  They have gotten so far away from that primary directive
[02:07:26.140 --> 02:07:27.220]  of first do no harm.
[02:07:27.220 --> 02:07:30.020]  It's just gotta get rid of whatever that thing is,
[02:07:30.020 --> 02:07:32.860]  regardless of what happens to the person's health.
[02:07:32.860 --> 02:07:35.740]  And that's a thing that is very concerning.
[02:07:35.740 --> 02:07:37.820]  But again, I'm sorry, I interrupted.
[02:07:37.820 --> 02:07:41.860]  You were talking about how your mother was working with you.
[02:07:41.860 --> 02:07:45.420]  I mean, it's a difficult thing to try to,
[02:07:45.420 --> 02:07:46.900]  when we see how dangerous this is,
[02:07:46.900 --> 02:07:49.060]  to try to get it across to people, isn't it?
[02:07:49.060 --> 02:07:49.900]  It is, it is.
[02:07:49.900 --> 02:07:53.460]  And so my advice is to approach it in love,
[02:07:53.460 --> 02:07:55.660]  but in boldness and to approach it
[02:07:55.660 --> 02:07:58.660]  in the sense of having all of the information cited.
[02:07:58.660 --> 02:08:00.740]  I actually have an entire chapter on this
[02:08:00.740 --> 02:08:03.740]  and I do talk about it in my training course as well,
[02:08:04.580 --> 02:08:08.420]  that we have to first automatically assume
[02:08:08.420 --> 02:08:10.100]  that the person has good intentions
[02:08:10.100 --> 02:08:11.340]  for themselves and their families.
[02:08:11.340 --> 02:08:15.620]  I think when we go into it thinking nefarious,
[02:08:15.620 --> 02:08:17.140]  especially for friends and family,
[02:08:17.140 --> 02:08:19.500]  that can put you off on the wrong foot
[02:08:19.500 --> 02:08:20.380]  right out of the gate.
[02:08:20.380 --> 02:08:23.100]  And so to go into it, that they are just trying
[02:08:23.100 --> 02:08:25.300]  to do the best decision with the information they have,
[02:08:25.300 --> 02:08:29.260]  and that you are tasked with the opportunity
[02:08:29.260 --> 02:08:31.900]  to provide more accurate information
[02:08:31.900 --> 02:08:34.660]  and to guide them in their path of research.
[02:08:34.660 --> 02:08:37.700]  And you're gonna get much further in a place of love
[02:08:37.700 --> 02:08:39.780]  than in a place of hostility.
[02:08:39.780 --> 02:08:43.420]  And so I provide just different resources
[02:08:43.420 --> 02:08:47.260]  for people to do that and to be able
[02:08:47.260 --> 02:08:49.580]  to not be so aggressive.
[02:08:49.580 --> 02:08:52.380]  And some advice that I give too as well
[02:08:52.380 --> 02:08:54.500]  is that if you do go into a provider
[02:08:54.500 --> 02:08:56.020]  and you like this provider,
[02:08:56.020 --> 02:08:59.220]  but they're forcing you to accept a certain product,
[02:08:59.220 --> 02:09:01.460]  to only bring .gov information.
[02:09:01.460 --> 02:09:04.340]  If you go into a medical provider's office
[02:09:04.340 --> 02:09:08.660]  with a .gov or a .com resource like myself,
[02:09:08.660 --> 02:09:09.500]  like Just The Inserts,
[02:09:09.500 --> 02:09:11.940]  like if you say, I got this from JustTheInserts.com,
[02:09:11.940 --> 02:09:14.180]  they have been trained to discredit anything else
[02:09:14.180 --> 02:09:15.380]  that comes out of your mouth.
[02:09:15.380 --> 02:09:17.700]  So it's really important for you to go in
[02:09:17.700 --> 02:09:19.740]  with the .gov information,
[02:09:19.740 --> 02:09:21.860]  have the manufacturer inserts printed out,
[02:09:21.860 --> 02:09:24.500]  highlight the parts that you wanna discuss with them,
[02:09:24.500 --> 02:09:27.140]  maybe even write the URL in the bottom of the webpage
[02:09:27.140 --> 02:09:28.460]  if it isn't there,
[02:09:28.460 --> 02:09:31.740]  for you to have productive conversations with them.
[02:09:31.740 --> 02:09:33.780]  Some family members are the same way.
[02:09:33.780 --> 02:09:34.700]  That's how I was.
[02:09:34.700 --> 02:09:37.300]  I have gotten hundreds of messages from people saying,
[02:09:37.300 --> 02:09:39.780]  thank you so much for putting this information out there
[02:09:39.780 --> 02:09:42.900]  because I was having circular conversations,
[02:09:42.900 --> 02:09:45.500]  debates, arguments with my loved one.
[02:09:45.500 --> 02:09:46.340]  And they just said,
[02:09:46.340 --> 02:09:48.940]  well, I wanna hear only from .gov information.
[02:09:48.940 --> 02:09:50.300]  And they happened to find my account
[02:09:50.300 --> 02:09:51.420]  and that's how they were able
[02:09:51.420 --> 02:09:53.380]  to have productive conversations.
[02:09:53.380 --> 02:09:55.940]  Some people also don't learn by reading.
[02:09:55.940 --> 02:09:58.460]  They are more visual or they're more auditory.
[02:09:58.460 --> 02:10:00.220]  So maybe you need to find a documentary,
[02:10:00.220 --> 02:10:01.980]  maybe you need to find a podcast
[02:10:01.980 --> 02:10:04.540]  that might present the information in a different way
[02:10:04.540 --> 02:10:06.580]  and that might be helpful for them to learn.
[02:10:06.580 --> 02:10:07.940]  One thing I did wanna touch on
[02:10:07.940 --> 02:10:10.140]  when you were talking about pregnant women,
[02:10:10.140 --> 02:10:12.140]  another reason why I was deleted
[02:10:12.140 --> 02:10:15.140]  is because I had done a post about ACOG
[02:10:18.740 --> 02:10:21.300]  pushing the COVID vaccines onto pregnant women.
[02:10:21.300 --> 02:10:25.020]  And I was getting so many messages of pregnant women
[02:10:25.100 --> 02:10:28.300]  skipping prenatal appointments or having anxiety attacks
[02:10:28.300 --> 02:10:30.500]  about going to a prenatal appointment
[02:10:30.500 --> 02:10:34.020]  because their provider was pushing the COVID vaccine so hard.
[02:10:34.020 --> 02:10:35.700]  And I was pregnant at the time.
[02:10:35.700 --> 02:10:37.700]  So this just struck a nerve with me.
[02:10:37.700 --> 02:10:41.180]  I was on pregnancy apps sharing information
[02:10:41.180 --> 02:10:42.820]  because the women were asking, should I get it?
[02:10:42.820 --> 02:10:43.940]  Should I not get it?
[02:10:43.940 --> 02:10:45.180]  I don't know.
[02:10:45.180 --> 02:10:46.580]  My intuition is telling me no,
[02:10:46.580 --> 02:10:47.980]  but I don't have much information.
[02:10:47.980 --> 02:10:50.220]  And so I was sharing .gov information
[02:10:50.220 --> 02:10:52.580]  and almost every single comment that I made
[02:10:52.580 --> 02:10:54.660]  was flagged and deleted by the app.
[02:10:55.340 --> 02:10:57.660]  It's hard, it's so hard
[02:10:57.660 --> 02:10:59.860]  because you want to get so mad and so angry.
[02:10:59.860 --> 02:11:00.700]  And believe me,
[02:11:00.700 --> 02:11:03.820]  I have every right to be mad and angry and aggressive,
[02:11:03.820 --> 02:11:07.180]  but that's when the Holy Spirit kind of takes over
[02:11:07.180 --> 02:11:10.660]  and reminds me that if you go in it too hard, too fast,
[02:11:10.660 --> 02:11:13.380]  I have to remember that I have researched fact A
[02:11:13.380 --> 02:11:16.260]  to fact B to fact C all the way to fact Z.
[02:11:16.260 --> 02:11:19.700]  And if you go in with fact P or somewhere else,
[02:11:19.700 --> 02:11:21.860]  that might put someone in the defense
[02:11:21.860 --> 02:11:25.300]  and it might put them in a unhealthy way
[02:11:25.300 --> 02:11:26.700]  of responding to the information
[02:11:26.700 --> 02:11:27.860]  that you're presenting to them.
[02:11:27.860 --> 02:11:29.940]  So it is hard, it's very hard
[02:11:29.940 --> 02:11:31.260]  and you really have to have,
[02:11:31.260 --> 02:11:32.820]  it's a little bit of an art
[02:11:32.820 --> 02:11:34.980]  trying to prevent the information to them.
[02:11:34.980 --> 02:11:37.060]  Well, I like what you had to say about .gov
[02:11:37.060 --> 02:11:39.140]  because one of the reasons I look at it is like,
[02:11:39.140 --> 02:11:41.540]  why do we have these arguments and fights?
[02:11:41.540 --> 02:11:43.420]  Well, many of us will look at this
[02:11:43.420 --> 02:11:45.380]  and we've done research and we'll talk to somebody
[02:11:45.380 --> 02:11:48.780]  and they'll say, yeah, but this authority figure says this.
[02:11:48.780 --> 02:11:50.740]  And it's like, don't talk to me about authority figures,
[02:11:50.740 --> 02:11:51.580]  do your own research.
[02:11:52.540 --> 02:11:53.380]  Yeah, exactly.
[02:11:53.380 --> 02:11:56.020]  But it's like, I just have this knee-jerk reaction
[02:11:56.020 --> 02:11:57.780]  is like, why are you listening to these authorities?
[02:11:57.780 --> 02:11:58.820]  They lie about everything.
[02:11:58.820 --> 02:12:00.900]  And as you're pointing out, we're at point Z
[02:12:00.900 --> 02:12:02.980]  because we've been seeing the authorities lying to us
[02:12:02.980 --> 02:12:05.460]  about everything, but they haven't noticed that.
[02:12:05.460 --> 02:12:07.420]  And so we jump into this conversation
[02:12:07.420 --> 02:12:09.540]  way down at a different place than where they are,
[02:12:09.540 --> 02:12:10.380]  number one.
[02:12:10.380 --> 02:12:13.220]  Number two, we get upset because they're so focused
[02:12:13.220 --> 02:12:15.260]  on authority figures.
[02:12:15.260 --> 02:12:16.940]  And I think your approach of saying,
[02:12:16.940 --> 02:12:19.740]  well, if we go with .gov information,
[02:12:19.740 --> 02:12:22.020]  we're fighting authority with authority.
[02:12:22.020 --> 02:12:23.900]  And I think that's a brilliant strategy.
[02:12:23.900 --> 02:12:25.140]  I think that's really great.
[02:12:25.140 --> 02:12:29.140]  And so, and it's also when we look at social media
[02:12:29.140 --> 02:12:30.580]  and the censorship that has been there,
[02:12:30.580 --> 02:12:33.820]  and I've experienced a great deal of it myself,
[02:12:33.820 --> 02:12:36.140]  when we look at that, we've got to get away
[02:12:36.140 --> 02:12:39.460]  from the social media walled garden that is there.
[02:12:39.460 --> 02:12:41.860]  And so people go to a particular website,
[02:12:41.860 --> 02:12:44.220]  they go to your website or they go to mine or whatever,
[02:12:44.220 --> 02:12:45.980]  they go to a book, you know,
[02:12:45.980 --> 02:12:47.940]  that's the way to get outside of the system.
[02:12:48.380 --> 02:12:52.900]  We're all becoming trapped into focusing so much
[02:12:52.900 --> 02:12:57.260]  on social media and it's only gonna get a lot worse.
[02:12:57.260 --> 02:12:59.540]  I mean, we've got, Facebook is out there talking about
[02:12:59.540 --> 02:13:02.140]  how they're going to create AI friends for you to talk to.
[02:13:02.140 --> 02:13:05.060]  And it's like, what kind of a crazy world is this?
[02:13:05.060 --> 02:13:08.300]  I mean, this is like the worst dystopian ideas
[02:13:08.300 --> 02:13:09.900]  of Yuval Harari out there, you know,
[02:13:09.900 --> 02:13:12.660]  talking about creating AI friends to talk to you
[02:13:12.660 --> 02:13:14.780]  because you don't have any real friends of your own.
[02:13:14.940 --> 02:13:18.060]  It's gonna be this massive web of deception
[02:13:18.060 --> 02:13:20.220]  and of control and of surveillance.
[02:13:20.220 --> 02:13:23.380]  And so we need to start going to, directly to websites,
[02:13:23.380 --> 02:13:26.260]  yours is justtheinsearch.com, going to a book.
[02:13:26.260 --> 02:13:27.540]  What is the name of your book, by the way?
[02:13:27.540 --> 02:13:28.380]  We didn't talk about that.
[02:13:28.380 --> 02:13:29.200]  It's called,
[02:13:29.200 --> 02:13:30.040]  Well Considered A Handbook
[02:13:30.040 --> 02:13:31.580]  For Making Informed Medical Decisions.
[02:13:31.580 --> 02:13:33.780]  I made it very small on purpose.
[02:13:33.780 --> 02:13:35.580]  I have all the information you need,
[02:13:35.580 --> 02:13:37.140]  everything that I wish I would have known
[02:13:37.140 --> 02:13:38.540]  when I first started researching,
[02:13:38.540 --> 02:13:41.020]  and it's all sourced from .gov information.
[02:13:41.020 --> 02:13:43.020]  And one of the chapters that I have in here,
[02:13:43.020 --> 02:13:45.300]  I actually go into the potential financial conflicts
[02:13:45.300 --> 02:13:47.700]  of interest at the federal level
[02:13:47.700 --> 02:13:49.540]  and at the physician level.
[02:13:49.540 --> 02:13:52.300]  And I think that's important for patients
[02:13:52.300 --> 02:13:53.620]  and parents to understand as well,
[02:13:53.620 --> 02:13:56.020]  that when they walk into an office,
[02:13:56.020 --> 02:13:59.500]  they aren't just walking into a philanthropic environment
[02:13:59.500 --> 02:14:03.380]  where this provider is providing charity to you.
[02:14:03.380 --> 02:14:06.620]  It's a sales funnel and having a business background,
[02:14:06.620 --> 02:14:09.900]  it's important to understand what you are walking into.
[02:14:09.900 --> 02:14:13.620]  So when you are, if your provider is becoming emotional
[02:14:13.620 --> 02:14:15.180]  about your personal medical decision,
[02:14:15.180 --> 02:14:17.420]  you could understand that there's a bias there
[02:14:17.420 --> 02:14:19.940]  and there's a potential financial conflict of interest.
[02:14:19.940 --> 02:14:22.720]  I get messages from people that are so worried
[02:14:22.720 --> 02:14:24.940]  about upsetting their providers,
[02:14:24.940 --> 02:14:28.100]  and they don't realize that it's not them,
[02:14:28.100 --> 02:14:29.560]  it's not you, it's them.
[02:14:29.560 --> 02:14:31.980]  It's not something that you need to take personally.
[02:14:31.980 --> 02:14:33.780]  If your provider is getting upset,
[02:14:33.780 --> 02:14:37.040]  they are now entering a medical coercion, medical bullying,
[02:14:37.040 --> 02:14:38.760]  and that's not your fault, that's their fault,
[02:14:38.760 --> 02:14:40.520]  and you need to safely remove yourself
[02:14:40.520 --> 02:14:41.360]  from that relationship
[02:14:41.360 --> 02:14:43.440]  and find a better, more qualified provider.
[02:14:43.440 --> 02:14:44.480]  I agree.
[02:14:44.480 --> 02:14:46.120]  And a big part of this is that
[02:14:46.120 --> 02:14:48.640]  we have these campaigns by the media,
[02:14:48.640 --> 02:14:53.400]  or even if we get information from a health service provider,
[02:14:53.400 --> 02:14:55.200]  is to avoid the fear.
[02:14:55.200 --> 02:14:57.040]  Fear is a thing that allows them
[02:14:57.040 --> 02:14:58.720]  to do whatever they wish to to us.
[02:14:58.720 --> 02:15:02.160]  If we get afraid enough of whatever this is,
[02:15:02.160 --> 02:15:05.120]  regardless of what we have seen happen to other people,
[02:15:05.120 --> 02:15:07.580]  regardless of what we've experienced in our own life,
[02:15:07.580 --> 02:15:10.500]  if they can build the fear of the condition,
[02:15:10.500 --> 02:15:12.780]  let's call it, the disease or whatever it is,
[02:15:12.780 --> 02:15:16.220]  if they can build that fear up, they can sell us anything.
[02:15:16.220 --> 02:15:17.500]  And people will continue to take it,
[02:15:17.500 --> 02:15:22.500]  no matter, even if you have bad adverse reactions to it,
[02:15:22.540 --> 02:15:25.460]  keep taking it, because you're so afraid of the disease.
[02:15:25.460 --> 02:15:26.300]  That's the key thing, I think.
[02:15:26.300 --> 02:15:27.820]  Right, it's comparative safety,
[02:15:27.820 --> 02:15:29.700]  and it's one thing that I've noticed
[02:15:29.700 --> 02:15:32.740]  continually reading .gov information,
[02:15:32.740 --> 02:15:35.100]  is almost all of these medical products
[02:15:36.020 --> 02:15:37.780]  the safety and effectiveness of them
[02:15:37.780 --> 02:15:41.480]  are deemed in comparison to potential complications
[02:15:41.480 --> 02:15:43.900]  to a disease or an illness, and that's not right.
[02:15:43.900 --> 02:15:46.740]  We need to be assessing them based on their own safety,
[02:15:46.740 --> 02:15:49.300]  their own effectiveness, not comparing it to anything else,
[02:15:49.300 --> 02:15:51.700]  because you can make anything seem safe
[02:15:51.700 --> 02:15:55.340]  if you compare it to something that is more dangerous.
[02:15:55.340 --> 02:15:58.900]  And I talk about in the book how dangerous that comparison is
[02:15:58.900 --> 02:16:01.780]  and how unscientific it is, because of what we know
[02:16:01.780 --> 02:16:04.360]  from the government-funded study about adverse reactions,
[02:16:04.360 --> 02:16:08.680]  how only 1% of reactions are accurately reflected.
[02:16:08.680 --> 02:16:10.880]  And then also too, we haven't discussed
[02:16:10.880 --> 02:16:14.080]  that many vaccine manufacturers talk about shedding
[02:16:14.080 --> 02:16:15.400]  and the potential for shedding,
[02:16:15.400 --> 02:16:19.320]  and how vaccine strains of a disease are out there.
[02:16:19.320 --> 02:16:23.080]  Polio, flu, chickenpox, shingles,
[02:16:23.080 --> 02:16:27.000]  there are vaccine strains that the CDC is tracking.
[02:16:27.000 --> 02:16:30.600]  So when we talk about disease rates, measles outbreaks,
[02:16:30.600 --> 02:16:33.540]  was it from the vaccine or was it from a wild strain?
[02:16:33.540 --> 02:16:35.220]  I think that's very important for consumers
[02:16:35.220 --> 02:16:36.340]  to be aware of as well.
[02:16:36.340 --> 02:16:38.100]  Oh yeah, when we look at what is going on,
[02:16:38.100 --> 02:16:39.620]  for instance, in Gaza, they said,
[02:16:39.620 --> 02:16:42.500]  well, we tested the storage and we found this polio out there.
[02:16:42.500 --> 02:16:44.260]  Well, it's polio from the vaccine.
[02:16:44.260 --> 02:16:46.820]  We've seen situations, I remember when they freaked out,
[02:16:46.820 --> 02:16:49.180]  they had four patients who got measles,
[02:16:49.180 --> 02:16:50.420]  and of course, I'm old enough,
[02:16:50.420 --> 02:16:52.620]  we didn't even have any measles, vaccines,
[02:16:52.620 --> 02:16:53.700]  and everybody got measles.
[02:16:53.700 --> 02:16:56.260]  Never heard of any serious reactions to anybody.
[02:16:56.260 --> 02:16:58.020]  Parents didn't, or they wouldn't have been having
[02:16:58.020 --> 02:17:00.780]  measle parties to make sure they get this over and done with.
[02:17:00.780 --> 02:17:02.340]  I had rubella as a baby.
[02:17:02.340 --> 02:17:03.260]  Yeah, there you go.
[02:17:03.260 --> 02:17:06.100]  And so we had all these childhood diseases,
[02:17:06.100 --> 02:17:08.060]  and it's easier to cope with them at childhood,
[02:17:08.060 --> 02:17:11.420]  and it was something that was, in fact, very rare.
[02:17:11.420 --> 02:17:14.780]  But I remember a New York case where they had
[02:17:14.780 --> 02:17:18.420]  four measles cases, and everybody had been vaccinated
[02:17:18.420 --> 02:17:21.380]  at least twice, some of them more than that for that.
[02:17:21.380 --> 02:17:24.260]  So it very well could have been the vaccine itself
[02:17:24.260 --> 02:17:25.420]  that they were giving them.
[02:17:25.420 --> 02:17:27.020]  We never know about this type of thing.
[02:17:27.020 --> 02:17:29.940]  Talk to us a little bit about, as a parent,
[02:17:29.940 --> 02:17:31.540]  what do you do for your children?
[02:17:32.420 --> 02:17:34.580]  Well, the first thing, if I'm worried about a disease
[02:17:34.580 --> 02:17:37.820]  because of the hype that is done
[02:17:37.820 --> 02:17:41.100]  either by public health campaigns or influencers
[02:17:41.100 --> 02:17:44.100]  or anything that are talking about a disease,
[02:17:44.100 --> 02:17:46.780]  RSV recently has been discussed a lot,
[02:17:46.780 --> 02:17:49.900]  and now the bird flu is, just on my personal Instagram,
[02:17:49.900 --> 02:17:53.660]  I saw three influencers start talking about the bird flu.
[02:17:53.660 --> 02:17:56.020]  And so if you are exposed to something like that
[02:17:56.020 --> 02:17:58.180]  as a parent, naturally you're going to worry about it.
[02:17:58.180 --> 02:17:59.700]  I think as a parent, that's normal,
[02:17:59.700 --> 02:18:01.340]  and that's valid, and that's okay.
[02:18:01.340 --> 02:18:03.660]  So for me, what I do is I research the disease.
[02:18:03.660 --> 02:18:07.060]  I understand what are the early symptoms of this disease.
[02:18:07.060 --> 02:18:08.140]  What is the transmission?
[02:18:08.140 --> 02:18:09.140]  How does it transmit?
[02:18:09.140 --> 02:18:10.860]  Is it from fecal matter?
[02:18:10.860 --> 02:18:13.620]  Is it from oral droplets?
[02:18:13.620 --> 02:18:18.140]  Is it from blood, you know, exposure to somebody's blood?
[02:18:18.140 --> 02:18:21.100]  I want to understand how this disease or virus
[02:18:21.100 --> 02:18:23.940]  or condition or something, how does it spread?
[02:18:23.940 --> 02:18:25.260]  And then I want to know
[02:18:25.260 --> 02:18:27.620]  what are the potential complications of it?
[02:18:27.620 --> 02:18:30.460]  Once you understand the mechanism of action
[02:18:30.460 --> 02:18:32.220]  and how the disease presents in the body,
[02:18:32.220 --> 02:18:33.580]  then you can understand, okay,
[02:18:33.580 --> 02:18:35.540]  what are things that I can do to prevent this?
[02:18:35.540 --> 02:18:40.380]  If this disease is spread by somebody going to the bathroom,
[02:18:40.380 --> 02:18:41.620]  being exposed to fecal matter,
[02:18:41.620 --> 02:18:43.780]  not washing their hands like the polio virus,
[02:18:43.780 --> 02:18:45.660]  then I'm going to make sure every single time
[02:18:45.660 --> 02:18:48.380]  I'm in a public restroom to wash my hands
[02:18:48.380 --> 02:18:51.380]  and not excessively touch everything in the bathroom.
[02:18:51.380 --> 02:18:53.580]  My children have been trained from the get-go
[02:18:53.580 --> 02:18:55.700]  not to touch any mucous membranes.
[02:18:55.700 --> 02:18:57.460]  They don't touch their mouth, they don't touch their nose,
[02:18:57.460 --> 02:18:59.380]  they don't touch their eyes, they don't touch their ears
[02:18:59.380 --> 02:19:00.220]  when they're in public.
[02:19:00.220 --> 02:19:03.700]  As soon as we get home, we wash our hands 20 seconds,
[02:19:03.700 --> 02:19:05.540]  cover everything, they know that.
[02:19:05.540 --> 02:19:09.340]  And that is a tool that can be used in disease prevention.
[02:19:09.340 --> 02:19:12.020]  I also make sure that their immune systems
[02:19:12.020 --> 02:19:14.460]  are constantly being supported.
[02:19:14.460 --> 02:19:17.960]  We ensure that the quality of food that we have
[02:19:17.960 --> 02:19:20.020]  is nourishing their body.
[02:19:20.020 --> 02:19:22.900]  I'm a firm believer that every product you put in
[02:19:22.900 --> 02:19:26.060]  and on your body can either help or hinder your health.
[02:19:26.060 --> 02:19:27.540]  And that includes food.
[02:19:27.540 --> 02:19:30.540]  And so we prioritize quality food,
[02:19:30.540 --> 02:19:32.700]  we prioritize sleep in our household.
[02:19:32.700 --> 02:19:36.780]  There are hundreds of thousands to millions of research
[02:19:36.780 --> 02:19:40.020]  and data on the quality of sleep that you have
[02:19:40.020 --> 02:19:42.100]  can determine your immune responses,
[02:19:42.100 --> 02:19:44.220]  your immune support system.
[02:19:45.260 --> 02:19:47.940]  If we know that we are potentially going to be around
[02:19:47.940 --> 02:19:50.020]  someone that was recently vaccinated,
[02:19:50.020 --> 02:19:53.380]  we make sure that we have some tinctures that we take
[02:19:53.380 --> 02:19:56.780]  to support our liver, to support our detox systems
[02:19:56.780 --> 02:19:58.300]  so that if there is a shedding event
[02:19:58.300 --> 02:20:00.820]  or one of the things that I discuss
[02:20:00.820 --> 02:20:01.980]  are breakthrough infections.
[02:20:01.980 --> 02:20:04.460]  And this is heavily discussed by the CDC and FDA,
[02:20:04.460 --> 02:20:06.120]  especially for the COVID vaccines,
[02:20:06.120 --> 02:20:07.900]  they are tracking breakthrough infections.
[02:20:07.900 --> 02:20:11.500]  So when somebody is up to date on their COVID vaccine,
[02:20:11.500 --> 02:20:14.660]  according to the CDC, they can still have COVID
[02:20:14.660 --> 02:20:16.640]  and transmit it to other people,
[02:20:16.640 --> 02:20:18.940]  but they don't have symptoms, it's asymptomatic.
[02:20:18.940 --> 02:20:21.060]  So in my opinion, they're actually more dangerous
[02:20:21.060 --> 02:20:23.980]  because the symptoms aren't alerting them to stay home
[02:20:23.980 --> 02:20:26.460]  and they are exposing themselves to everybody else
[02:20:27.100 --> 02:20:30.860]  and there's no symptoms that could potentially keep them
[02:20:30.860 --> 02:20:32.580]  from spreading it to other people.
[02:20:32.580 --> 02:20:36.220]  So knowing all of this, I could be in, as a parent,
[02:20:36.220 --> 02:20:38.100]  a state of fear constantly.
[02:20:38.100 --> 02:20:39.940]  And I will admit that there are times
[02:20:39.940 --> 02:20:41.780]  where I do fall into that camp
[02:20:41.780 --> 02:20:43.260]  of just being constantly afraid
[02:20:43.260 --> 02:20:45.100]  of everything coming after my child,
[02:20:45.100 --> 02:20:47.740]  but then that stress and fear itself
[02:20:47.740 --> 02:20:49.720]  will lower my immune response
[02:20:49.720 --> 02:20:52.180]  and also pass that stress onto my children.
[02:20:52.180 --> 02:20:54.580]  So instead I have adopted the strategy
[02:20:54.580 --> 02:20:57.380]  of what can we do to support our bodies
[02:20:57.380 --> 02:20:59.160]  so no matter what we're exposed to,
[02:20:59.160 --> 02:21:04.160]  either in the sky or pollution or toxins in our environment,
[02:21:04.660 --> 02:21:06.780]  we are prepared and we are supporting our body
[02:21:06.780 --> 02:21:07.860]  as much as possible.
[02:21:07.860 --> 02:21:08.700]  I agree.
[02:21:08.700 --> 02:21:12.020]  And it all goes back to, do we agree with their diagnosis?
[02:21:12.020 --> 02:21:13.820]  When you look at the bird flu stuff,
[02:21:15.240 --> 02:21:16.640]  oh, look at how many people have gotten it
[02:21:16.640 --> 02:21:18.340]  and they got pink eye.
[02:21:18.340 --> 02:21:21.020]  And so you talk about not touching your eyes
[02:21:21.020 --> 02:21:22.480]  when you're out in public and everything.
[02:21:22.480 --> 02:21:26.080]  What about when you're working with bovine fecal matter?
[02:21:27.400 --> 02:21:30.320]  Because that is what we're seeing over and over again.
[02:21:30.320 --> 02:21:31.560]  These people got pink eye.
[02:21:31.560 --> 02:21:33.120]  Well, how often do they get pink eye?
[02:21:33.120 --> 02:21:35.000]  Normally, if they're not washing their hands
[02:21:35.000 --> 02:21:35.840]  and not working with them.
[02:21:35.840 --> 02:21:38.120]  I usually just did a bird flu post last night
[02:21:38.120 --> 02:21:41.000]  because I was just so heated by these influencers chart
[02:21:41.000 --> 02:21:43.680]  saying, make sure you get your H5N1 vaccine.
[02:21:43.680 --> 02:21:45.800]  And like, that's not even commercially available yet.
[02:21:45.800 --> 02:21:47.680]  And they're already trying to push this.
[02:21:47.680 --> 02:21:51.200]  The only vaccines available are stockpiled by the CDC.
[02:21:51.200 --> 02:21:53.760]  But in the CDC guidance that I pulled,
[02:21:53.760 --> 02:21:56.920]  it said that the people that had been exposed to bird flu
[02:21:56.920 --> 02:21:59.480]  and had contracted the disease,
[02:21:59.480 --> 02:22:03.000]  they had prolonged exposure to dead birds
[02:22:03.000 --> 02:22:07.080]  or bovine fecal matter without any PPE.
[02:22:07.080 --> 02:22:07.920]  Yeah, exactly.
[02:22:07.920 --> 02:22:09.840]  Who knows what they could have been sick with.
[02:22:09.840 --> 02:22:11.520]  And they get pink eye
[02:22:11.520 --> 02:22:13.000]  and they don't have any respiratory issues,
[02:22:13.000 --> 02:22:14.240]  no fever, any of that kind of stuff.
[02:22:14.240 --> 02:22:15.960]  It's like, don't call it bird flu.
[02:22:15.960 --> 02:22:17.680]  Maybe call it bird's eye, you know?
[02:22:17.680 --> 02:22:20.160]  Or something like that.
[02:22:20.160 --> 02:22:23.560]  But yeah, there's a lot of heavy, heavy disinformation
[02:22:23.560 --> 02:22:26.160]  out there and it's all about a campaign of fear.
[02:22:26.160 --> 02:22:29.440]  Leanna Nguyen is out there pushing this bird flu vaccine
[02:22:29.440 --> 02:22:33.200]  and it's got a very, very dangerous profile.
[02:22:33.200 --> 02:22:35.560]  So people need to be very, very concerned about it.
[02:22:35.560 --> 02:22:37.640]  I've got a couple of comments here.
[02:22:37.640 --> 02:22:39.040]  Dougalike says, after my heart surgery,
[02:22:39.040 --> 02:22:41.120]  I quit all the prescribed meds within four months.
[02:22:41.120 --> 02:22:44.160]  Doc says, I prescribed those for a reason,
[02:22:44.160 --> 02:22:45.880]  but he said no more.
[02:22:45.880 --> 02:22:46.800]  It's like, well, okay,
[02:22:46.800 --> 02:22:49.080]  we don't necessarily agree with your reason.
[02:22:49.080 --> 02:22:50.920]  And of course, we're always looking to see
[02:22:50.920 --> 02:22:54.840]  what the issues are with it.
[02:22:54.840 --> 02:22:57.800]  Garg Goldsmith says, I was gonna ask if she took donations.
[02:22:57.800 --> 02:22:59.840]  So I look for a book, see about the training program.
[02:22:59.840 --> 02:23:01.680]  Those sound valuable.
[02:23:01.680 --> 02:23:02.720]  And if I can afford both,
[02:23:02.720 --> 02:23:05.200]  I'd love to study based on her program.
[02:23:05.200 --> 02:23:09.120]  And again, you can find that at informconsent.com.
[02:23:10.680 --> 02:23:12.360]  Or just theinserts.com.
[02:23:12.360 --> 02:23:14.080]  I'm sorry, yeah, just theinserts.com.
[02:23:14.080 --> 02:23:15.920]  And the training course is free.
[02:23:15.920 --> 02:23:17.880]  It's always gonna be free on my website.
[02:23:17.880 --> 02:23:19.480]  No email required to access.
[02:23:19.480 --> 02:23:20.320]  Good, good.
[02:23:20.320 --> 02:23:23.800]  I was thinking about Garg again.
[02:23:23.800 --> 02:23:25.240]  He might be interested in talking to you
[02:23:25.240 --> 02:23:27.080]  as well on his program.
[02:23:27.080 --> 02:23:28.280]  He has Liberty Conspiracy.
[02:23:28.280 --> 02:23:30.200]  Jason Barker has another program.
[02:23:30.200 --> 02:23:31.920]  He says, the bottom line is
[02:23:31.920 --> 02:23:34.560]  that since naturally occurring molecules can't be patented,
[02:23:34.560 --> 02:23:37.800]  they produce synthetic patentable drugs
[02:23:37.800 --> 02:23:38.760]  that try to do the same thing
[02:23:38.760 --> 02:23:40.760]  that many natural things can treat.
[02:23:40.760 --> 02:23:45.760]  And Handy, who is a ER professional in Atlantic says,
[02:23:46.320 --> 02:23:48.720]  Atlanta says, even now I work with people
[02:23:48.720 --> 02:23:52.160]  who don't have a clue that theirs even exists.
[02:23:52.160 --> 02:23:55.360]  They know playoff standings by heart though.
[02:23:55.360 --> 02:23:57.640]  And that's a failure of education
[02:23:57.640 --> 02:23:59.240]  for our healthcare providers.
[02:23:59.240 --> 02:24:01.080]  Most of the time when the healthcare provider
[02:24:01.080 --> 02:24:03.120]  is researching a manufacturer insert
[02:24:03.120 --> 02:24:05.320]  is because they themselves are liable
[02:24:05.320 --> 02:24:06.480]  or they become parents.
[02:24:06.480 --> 02:24:08.640]  That is one of the top reasons
[02:24:08.640 --> 02:24:10.000]  that medical professionals have told me
[02:24:10.000 --> 02:24:12.320]  that they've read inserts and that is a problem.
[02:24:12.320 --> 02:24:14.160]  Wow, wow, that is amazing.
[02:24:14.160 --> 02:24:17.320]  Yeah, the stuff that's in there is in there for a reason.
[02:24:17.320 --> 02:24:19.760]  And if it looks scary, you should be afraid of that.
[02:24:19.760 --> 02:24:22.680]  They only want you afraid of the condition
[02:24:22.680 --> 02:24:23.720]  that you're looking at.
[02:24:23.720 --> 02:24:26.080]  And so that's an important thing.
[02:24:26.080 --> 02:24:27.280]  Just the inserts.
[02:24:27.280 --> 02:24:28.480]  And it is very important
[02:24:28.480 --> 02:24:29.680]  that when we have informed consent,
[02:24:29.680 --> 02:24:30.640]  it begins with information.
[02:24:30.640 --> 02:24:33.120]  You can find a lot of information at just the inserts.
[02:24:33.120 --> 02:24:35.880]  Thank you so much, Alexander, for joining us.
[02:24:35.880 --> 02:24:37.600]  Always great talking to you.
[02:24:38.480 --> 02:24:41.080]  Talking to people who have looked
[02:24:41.080 --> 02:24:43.360]  at what is happening with all of this stuff.
[02:24:43.360 --> 02:24:45.840]  And I think it is very important
[02:24:45.840 --> 02:24:47.600]  for us to understand not only for ourselves,
[02:24:47.600 --> 02:24:49.680]  but how can we have meaningful conversations
[02:24:49.680 --> 02:24:54.120]  with other people and to meet them where they are.
[02:24:54.120 --> 02:24:55.760]  And as I said, I think your idea
[02:24:55.760 --> 02:24:59.760]  of fighting this authority figures
[02:24:59.760 --> 02:25:01.440]  with authority figures of .gov,
[02:25:01.440 --> 02:25:04.280]  I think that is one of the best ideas.
[02:25:04.280 --> 02:25:07.120]  And of course people can find a lot of that information
[02:25:07.120 --> 02:25:08.520]  at justtheinserts.com.
[02:25:08.520 --> 02:25:10.160]  Thank you so much for joining us.
[02:25:10.160 --> 02:25:11.240]  Thank you for having me.
[02:25:11.240 --> 02:25:12.080]  Thank you.
[02:25:13.040 --> 02:25:15.120]  And we'll see you next time.
[02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:15.960]  Take care.
[02:25:15.960 --> 02:25:16.960]  Have a good night.
[02:25:18.080 --> 02:25:19.000]  Let's do this.
[02:25:21.320 --> 02:25:22.200]  Thank you.
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[02:28:02.840 --> 02:28:05.360]  Handy sent this to me, and he mentioned this earlier on the board.
[02:28:05.920 --> 02:28:12.320]  So when he talks to friends and family, they tell him, well, you're just looking for perfection.
[02:28:12.320 --> 02:28:16.880]  And they say, Jesus isn't on the ballot.
[02:28:16.880 --> 02:28:17.880]  And I put this up today.
[02:28:17.880 --> 02:28:21.720]  I said, you know, I always hear people say, Jesus isn't on the ballot.
[02:28:21.720 --> 02:28:25.480]  I've seen that over and over again.
[02:28:25.480 --> 02:28:32.320]  And so my response to that is, if Jesus is not on the ballot, then why are you Christian
[02:28:32.320 --> 02:28:36.000]  leaders so intent on making him Trump's running mate?
[02:28:36.000 --> 02:28:37.480]  You know, that's the problem I have with it.
[02:28:37.480 --> 02:28:38.720]  You want to go vote for Trump?
[02:28:38.720 --> 02:28:39.720]  Fine.
[02:28:39.720 --> 02:28:42.120]  Shut up and do it in the secrecy of the ballot box.
[02:28:42.120 --> 02:28:48.200]  Don't make Jesus the running mate of Trump or of Lala.
[02:28:48.200 --> 02:28:50.760]  They're evil.
[02:28:50.760 --> 02:28:57.640]  It is a shame to tie Jesus to that known evil.
[02:28:57.640 --> 02:29:00.160]  You want to vote for the lesser two evils?
[02:29:00.160 --> 02:29:02.160]  Go for it.
[02:29:02.560 --> 02:29:05.680]  But shut up about it.
[02:29:05.680 --> 02:29:07.360]  Don't tie him.
[02:29:07.360 --> 02:29:12.720]  Don't make him the running mate of either of these candidates.
[02:29:12.720 --> 02:29:15.840]  So he says, what do you say to people that accuse you of looking for perfection when
[02:29:15.840 --> 02:29:18.280]  you point out everything that Trump did to us?
[02:29:18.280 --> 02:29:24.880]  Well, I would also say to them, at what point does integrity and character matter to you?
[02:29:24.880 --> 02:29:30.200]  If a person doesn't have integrity and character, they could be right on all they could say
[02:29:30.240 --> 02:29:33.640]  all the right things about the issues.
[02:29:33.640 --> 02:29:37.960]  And then they could do what Trump did in 2020, right?
[02:29:37.960 --> 02:29:46.120]  So this is when I point out things like the executive order on Friday the 13th, 2020,
[02:29:46.120 --> 02:29:49.960]  or the bump stock executive order, or the lockdowns, or the PPP, or the operational
[02:29:49.960 --> 02:29:55.160]  war speed, and it's continuing fruits, or Fauci on the podium, Fauci getting a medal.
[02:29:55.160 --> 02:29:57.160]  He says, it doesn't really matter.
[02:29:57.160 --> 02:30:01.920]  The more valid points I make, the more I'm accused of holding Trump to a standard of
[02:30:01.920 --> 02:30:02.920]  perfection.
[02:30:02.920 --> 02:30:07.280]  Well, here's the other thing, too, and I think we need to remember this when we're talking
[02:30:07.280 --> 02:30:10.120]  to friends and family.
[02:30:10.120 --> 02:30:18.600]  We have to understand that we have to keep coming back to what is right, not who is right.
[02:30:18.600 --> 02:30:23.320]  In other words, we want to keep it focused when we're talking about Trump or talking
[02:30:23.320 --> 02:30:24.320]  about Lala.
[02:30:24.320 --> 02:30:28.160]  And I'm not going to pay any attention to issues for Dr. Shiva, because the issues with
[02:30:28.160 --> 02:30:37.360]  him again are ballot access and debate access and getting your head out of this ballot box
[02:30:37.360 --> 02:30:41.440]  that they've put you in and start looking at how you can fix your life.
[02:30:41.440 --> 02:30:42.440]  That's his message to people.
[02:30:42.440 --> 02:30:45.000]  He's just using the presidential election to put them out there.
[02:30:45.000 --> 02:30:47.960]  But when we're talking about something that's really running for the presidency, and that
[02:30:47.960 --> 02:30:51.640]  would even include the third party candidates like the Green Party candidate, the Libertarian
[02:30:51.640 --> 02:30:55.080]  candidate, and the Republicans and the Democrats and so forth, and they're running and they've
[02:30:55.080 --> 02:30:58.400]  got a platform of issues and that's all it's really about.
[02:30:58.400 --> 02:31:02.120]  And they're telling, they're not telling you, hey, your life lies outside of the ballot
[02:31:02.120 --> 02:31:03.120]  box.
[02:31:03.120 --> 02:31:04.120]  They're not telling you that.
[02:31:04.120 --> 02:31:05.920]  They're telling you we're going to fix your life and here's what we're going to do to
[02:31:05.920 --> 02:31:06.920]  fix your life.
[02:31:06.920 --> 02:31:15.880]  Well, now let's talk about the issues and let's talk about them in a way that doesn't
[02:31:15.880 --> 02:31:18.480]  get into personalities.
[02:31:18.480 --> 02:31:22.320]  Because if we talk about who is right, and this is what I don't like about the left,
[02:31:22.320 --> 02:31:29.360]  they demonize Trump for his personality and his history and so forth.
[02:31:29.360 --> 02:31:31.600]  He is a demon, okay?
[02:31:31.600 --> 02:31:34.000]  There's no question about it.
[02:31:34.000 --> 02:31:40.760]  Jeffrey Epstein has now surfaced and is like Michael Wolff, who did that biography on Trump,
[02:31:40.760 --> 02:31:44.880]  published some tapes where he was interviewing Jeffrey Epstein.
[02:31:44.880 --> 02:31:46.400]  Jeffrey Epstein said, yeah, we're best friends.
[02:31:46.400 --> 02:31:47.400]  And it's like, I know that.
[02:31:47.880 --> 02:31:48.880]  You think I don't know that?
[02:31:48.880 --> 02:31:52.160]  It's funny you think I don't know that.
[02:31:52.160 --> 02:31:56.560]  But you know, it's, and he said he was afraid of Trump and so forth and so on.
[02:31:56.560 --> 02:31:59.560]  So he's putting this out as a last minute election thing, right?
[02:31:59.560 --> 02:32:02.760]  But we know about Trump's background.
[02:32:02.760 --> 02:32:08.960]  And to say that he's not perfect is the biggest understatement I've ever heard in my life.
[02:32:08.960 --> 02:32:15.920]  He is the very embodiment of every, every feeling that a human being can have, I think.
[02:32:15.920 --> 02:32:19.480]  But if we make it about him, right, that's what the left does.
[02:32:19.480 --> 02:32:23.920]  If we make it about who, we're missing the point.
[02:32:23.920 --> 02:32:29.800]  If we make it about who is right, or even about who is righteous, see, we're not making
[02:32:29.800 --> 02:32:32.080]  about who is righteous or who is right.
[02:32:32.080 --> 02:32:35.520]  We're making about what is right.
[02:32:35.520 --> 02:32:40.320]  Was it right to do all these things that Andy just mentioned, that I've talked about so
[02:32:40.320 --> 02:32:44.600]  many times, the gun control by executive order, the lockdowns, the death by ventilator, all
[02:32:44.600 --> 02:32:45.600]  the rest?
[02:32:46.280 --> 02:32:47.280]  Was that right?
[02:32:47.280 --> 02:32:48.280]  Are you okay with that?
[02:32:48.280 --> 02:32:52.720]  Yeah, you know, we don't have to make it personal about Trump.
[02:32:52.720 --> 02:32:54.240]  This is what the left is doing.
[02:32:54.240 --> 02:32:55.240]  They're making it.
[02:32:55.240 --> 02:32:56.240]  And that's what Trump does.
[02:32:56.240 --> 02:33:00.000]  He comes after people and it feeds that.
[02:33:00.000 --> 02:33:01.960]  Both sides are feeding this.
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[02:34:01.960 --> 02:34:06.440]  You know, this person is more evil than that person.
[02:34:06.440 --> 02:34:09.520]  So we don't look at what, at the evil that they've both done.
[02:34:10.400 --> 02:34:13.000]  We have to look at what is right.
[02:34:13.000 --> 02:34:15.040]  Not sign on to a who.
[02:34:15.040 --> 02:34:18.520]  We have to sign on to a what.
[02:34:18.520 --> 02:34:21.720]  And we have people who don't have character and integrity.
[02:34:21.720 --> 02:34:25.080]  It really doesn't matter what they tell you.
[02:34:25.080 --> 02:34:28.280]  And it really doesn't matter who you vote for, does it?
[02:34:28.280 --> 02:34:34.320]  Because there's somebody pulling the strings, that's not on the ballot, and you don't see
[02:34:34.320 --> 02:34:35.720]  them.
[02:34:35.720 --> 02:34:40.920]  But we can see their agenda if we look at what happened during the La La administration
[02:34:40.920 --> 02:34:42.400]  and during the Trump administration.
[02:34:42.400 --> 02:34:45.400]  We can see their agenda.
[02:34:45.400 --> 02:34:52.960]  So the key thing is, we want to make sure that we don't live by lies.
[02:34:52.960 --> 02:34:58.780]  We want to make sure that we don't fall into that totalitarian trap of saying two plus
[02:34:58.780 --> 02:35:00.560]  two equals five.
[02:35:00.560 --> 02:35:06.800]  We don't want to get involved in that kind of double think, so that we actually not just
[02:35:06.800 --> 02:35:12.240]  repeat the lie so that we don't get punished by these people, but we actually fully embrace
[02:35:12.240 --> 02:35:13.240]  that.
[02:35:13.240 --> 02:35:18.500]  And as George Orwell said, the double think, that you can hold two mutually exclusive ideas
[02:35:18.500 --> 02:35:22.640]  at the same time and are completely comfortable with it.
[02:35:22.640 --> 02:35:29.880]  The vaccine was evil, but Trump had nothing to do with it.
[02:35:30.560 --> 02:35:37.640]  These people have already, because of Trump, he has conditioned the MAGA voters to live
[02:35:37.640 --> 02:35:39.800]  by lies.
[02:35:39.800 --> 02:35:45.520]  And that's the conditioning that you need in order to establish a totalitarian, not
[02:35:45.520 --> 02:35:49.160]  just authoritarian, but a totalitarian state.
[02:35:49.160 --> 02:35:51.880]  You have to have that disconnect.
[02:35:51.880 --> 02:35:56.080]  And the La La people have it in the same way as well.
[02:35:56.080 --> 02:35:58.940]  And so we have to not live by lies.
[02:35:58.940 --> 02:36:04.660]  And so that means that you might want to look at it and say, okay, Trump did this.
[02:36:04.660 --> 02:36:06.460]  Trump is a liar.
[02:36:06.460 --> 02:36:08.300]  Trump deceived us.
[02:36:08.300 --> 02:36:10.420]  Trump betrayed us.
[02:36:10.420 --> 02:36:14.100]  But I still think he's a lesser evil than La La, so I'll vote for him.
[02:36:14.100 --> 02:36:15.140]  Okay, fine.
[02:36:15.140 --> 02:36:16.140]  I can live with that.
[02:36:16.140 --> 02:36:19.820]  What I can't live with are the people who say Trump had nothing to do with it.
[02:36:19.820 --> 02:36:23.560]  He had nothing to do with anything that happened in 2020, and he's going to fix it.
[02:36:23.560 --> 02:36:29.280]  I can understand the people who admit the truth and then make some lesser of two evil
[02:36:29.280 --> 02:36:36.800]  judgment, but I cannot understand or accept the people who will live by lies, the people
[02:36:36.800 --> 02:36:41.280]  who have put themselves in this Orwellian double-think box.
[02:36:41.280 --> 02:36:45.040]  That is absolutely unacceptable.
[02:36:45.040 --> 02:36:49.180]  So Handy goes on to say, literally every person around me has fallen into this delusion.
[02:36:49.180 --> 02:36:55.380]  People who admitted what Trump did to us now tell me, you have to vote.
[02:36:55.380 --> 02:36:56.380]  He is our only hope.
[02:36:56.380 --> 02:36:59.220]  Ah, see, now we're getting into yet another thing.
[02:36:59.220 --> 02:37:02.380]  This is an even greater delusion.
[02:37:02.380 --> 02:37:09.540]  And this really is a idolatry thing, you know, and you just have to say, no, my only hope
[02:37:09.540 --> 02:37:11.780]  is Christ.
[02:37:11.780 --> 02:37:15.540]  Jesus is my only hope.
[02:37:15.540 --> 02:37:18.760]  And he's my only king.
[02:37:18.760 --> 02:37:23.660]  And all the rest of these people, I don't have any trust in them, and God, I trust.
[02:37:23.660 --> 02:37:27.060]  What I remind them about everything Trump, when I remind them about everything Trump
[02:37:27.060 --> 02:37:32.100]  did to us, just even and only in 2020, they accuse me of being a liberal Harris lover.
[02:37:32.100 --> 02:37:33.900]  This is coming from people I've known for decades.
[02:37:33.900 --> 02:37:36.660]  I can't even talk to any of them anymore about anything.
[02:37:36.660 --> 02:37:39.900]  This weekend, I saw the last of them make the switch to full brainwashing.
[02:37:39.900 --> 02:37:42.140]  Tell me about it.
[02:37:42.140 --> 02:37:43.140]  See my audience.
[02:37:43.140 --> 02:37:46.420]  I see comments on social media.
[02:37:46.420 --> 02:37:52.720]  Some people that I know personally that I've talked to, who used to tell me to my face,
[02:37:52.720 --> 02:37:53.720]  I hate Trump.
[02:37:53.720 --> 02:37:56.020]  I said, well, I don't hate him.
[02:37:56.020 --> 02:37:57.460]  I hate his policy.
[02:37:57.460 --> 02:37:59.000]  I hate what he's done.
[02:37:59.000 --> 02:38:00.000]  I really don't hate the man.
[02:38:00.000 --> 02:38:02.180]  Oh, I hate him.
[02:38:02.180 --> 02:38:11.380]  And now you see on Facebook, Trump 2020, same person, same person is insane.
[02:38:11.380 --> 02:38:12.980]  You just got to laugh at it.
[02:38:12.980 --> 02:38:15.820]  Look, it doesn't matter what happens in the world.
[02:38:15.820 --> 02:38:19.820]  You set up a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.
[02:38:19.820 --> 02:38:21.000]  That's your anchor.
[02:38:21.000 --> 02:38:22.000]  That's your foundation.
[02:38:22.000 --> 02:38:24.820]  So he says, I'm in a little bit different position than most.
[02:38:24.820 --> 02:38:30.300]  What I've seen and experienced since 2020 is somebody who's working at EMS, emergency
[02:38:30.300 --> 02:38:31.300]  medical personnel.
[02:38:31.300 --> 02:38:35.660]  He says, since 2020, he says, this is straight out of a nightmare.
[02:38:35.660 --> 02:38:36.660]  Yeah.
[02:38:36.660 --> 02:38:39.260]  I wish I could forget what I've seen.
[02:38:39.260 --> 02:38:42.560]  No, don't ever forget it.
[02:38:42.560 --> 02:38:44.960]  Look at what is right, not who is right.
[02:38:44.960 --> 02:38:50.160]  So let's talk a little bit about the issues, because whoever is selected, we talk about
[02:38:50.160 --> 02:38:51.160]  the issues.
[02:38:51.160 --> 02:38:57.000]  This is going to give us a little better idea of what kind of line of attack the collective
[02:38:57.000 --> 02:39:21.800]  behind Trump or the collective behind Lala.
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[02:41:47.680 --> 02:41:52.280]  So joining us now is Matt Trujala, who I have talked to several times about his excellent
[02:41:52.280 --> 02:41:58.080]  book and about the Doctrine of the Lesser Magistrate.
[02:41:58.080 --> 02:41:59.080]  Thank you for joining us, Matt.
[02:41:59.080 --> 02:42:02.080]  Good to be here with you, David.
[02:42:02.080 --> 02:42:04.880]  And I so apologize for all my technical problems.
[02:42:04.880 --> 02:42:06.240]  Totally on my end.
[02:42:06.240 --> 02:42:07.240]  No problem.
[02:42:07.240 --> 02:42:08.240]  It's live.
[02:42:08.240 --> 02:42:11.440]  So we have that kind of a situation happen frequently.
[02:42:11.440 --> 02:42:12.440]  Not a concern.
[02:42:12.440 --> 02:42:13.440]  Glad to have you on.
[02:42:13.440 --> 02:42:14.960]  Glad we got through to you.
[02:42:14.960 --> 02:42:19.760]  And again, your website is defytirents, remind me, is that dot com?
[02:42:19.760 --> 02:42:20.760]  Dot com, yeah.
[02:42:20.760 --> 02:42:21.760]  Okay, good.
[02:42:22.240 --> 02:42:26.600]  Of course you can find it on Amazon, other places like that, but it's always good to
[02:42:26.600 --> 02:42:32.080]  not deal with Amazon, but to deal directly with the author helps them and helps us to
[02:42:32.080 --> 02:42:33.640]  get away from Amazon as well.
[02:42:33.640 --> 02:42:37.040]  So again, defytirents dot com.
[02:42:37.040 --> 02:42:38.040]  That's exactly right.
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[02:42:42.160 --> 02:42:43.160]  Good, good.
[02:42:43.160 --> 02:42:45.640]  Well, let's talk about this case.
[02:42:45.640 --> 02:42:50.920]  And I saw this, I'm on your mailing list, and I saw this, it's now been a couple of
[02:42:51.080 --> 02:42:56.720]  weeks, I guess, an FBI agent who invokes the doctrine of the lesser magistrate.
[02:42:56.720 --> 02:43:00.160]  Tell us a little bit about, just for people who have not heard you before, give us a little
[02:43:00.160 --> 02:43:03.920]  bit of an overview of what is the doctrine of the lesser magistrate, and then we'll talk
[02:43:03.920 --> 02:43:06.160]  about how that applied in the FBI case.
[02:43:06.160 --> 02:43:08.200]  But what is the doctrine of the lesser magistrate?
[02:43:08.200 --> 02:43:14.200]  The doctrine is simply that when the higher ranking civil authority makes unjust or immoral
[02:43:14.280 --> 02:43:20.720]  law, policy or court opinion, the God given right and duty of the lesser ranking civil
[02:43:20.720 --> 02:43:27.520]  authority is not to obey and if necessary to actively resist the superior authority.
[02:43:27.520 --> 02:43:29.320]  So that's as simple as that.
[02:43:29.320 --> 02:43:30.320]  That's what the doctrine is.
[02:43:30.320 --> 02:43:32.520]  It's found in scripture.
[02:43:32.520 --> 02:43:36.440]  John Knox wrote the foremost treatise on the doctrine of lesser magistrate, I believe ever
[02:43:36.440 --> 02:43:41.320]  written in his 1558 Appalachian to the nobles of Scotland.
[02:43:41.320 --> 02:43:44.240]  The nobles were the lesser magistrates of his day.
[02:43:44.240 --> 02:43:49.320]  He cited over 70 passages of scripture in that treatise to show that this doctrine is
[02:43:49.320 --> 02:43:51.040]  sound in the word of God.
[02:43:51.040 --> 02:43:55.520]  And at the same time, we see that it's not only practiced in Christian nations or in
[02:43:55.520 --> 02:44:00.560]  the Jewish nation, but we see that it was also practiced in non-Christian nations, showing
[02:44:00.560 --> 02:44:02.400]  that it's natural to man.
[02:44:02.400 --> 02:44:09.400]  And I actually start out my book with a story about a Roman governor who interposed against
[02:44:11.320 --> 02:44:12.920]  the emperor Caligula.
[02:44:12.920 --> 02:44:13.920]  Yes.
[02:44:13.920 --> 02:44:18.640]  And again, if you want to have rule of law, you have to have that because otherwise you're
[02:44:18.640 --> 02:44:22.400]  going to have a dictatorship if it's just going to be, you know, executive orders about
[02:44:22.400 --> 02:44:23.400]  this and that.
[02:44:23.400 --> 02:44:26.400]  If you're not going to have the rule of law, you have to have some, you have to repair
[02:44:26.400 --> 02:44:29.680]  back to a standard that is going to be there.
[02:44:29.680 --> 02:44:31.220]  And that's what this is truly about.
[02:44:31.220 --> 02:44:34.400]  And so there has to be a legal standard and there has to be a moral standard and that
[02:44:34.400 --> 02:44:36.120]  needs to be above men.
[02:44:36.120 --> 02:44:39.800]  That is the foundation of Western civilization, really.
[02:44:39.800 --> 02:44:40.800]  Yes.
[02:44:41.280 --> 02:44:47.240]  If you give any man or any human institution unlimited power, unlimited authority, they
[02:44:47.240 --> 02:44:49.760]  will corrupt themselves.
[02:44:49.760 --> 02:44:52.240]  It's just read the history of man.
[02:44:52.240 --> 02:44:54.520]  It's a no-brainer.
[02:44:54.520 --> 02:44:55.520]  And so you want powers.
[02:44:55.520 --> 02:44:56.520]  And we've lived that.
[02:44:56.520 --> 02:44:57.520]  We've lived that.
[02:44:57.520 --> 02:45:00.520]  That's our lived experience right now here in America in the 21st century.
[02:45:00.520 --> 02:45:01.520]  It's not a theory.
[02:45:01.520 --> 02:45:02.680]  It's not something out of the history books.
[02:45:02.680 --> 02:45:04.080]  We can see it right now.
[02:45:04.080 --> 02:45:05.080]  Yeah.
[02:45:05.080 --> 02:45:06.080]  Absolutely.
[02:45:06.080 --> 02:45:11.080]  So tell us a little bit about this FBI whistle-blower then that invoked the doctrine of the lesser
[02:45:11.080 --> 02:45:12.080]  magistrate.
[02:45:12.080 --> 02:45:15.120]  Well, his name is Garrett O'Boyle.
[02:45:15.120 --> 02:45:19.920]  And believe it or not, he actually hails from like 20 miles from where I live, where I'm
[02:45:19.920 --> 02:45:22.240]  sitting right now.
[02:45:22.240 --> 02:45:26.400]  And we put up his, he gave a talk in Idaho.
[02:45:26.400 --> 02:45:30.040]  And so we put that talk up on our website, defytimes.com.
[02:45:30.040 --> 02:45:35.440]  If people go there, they can see what he has to say.
[02:45:35.440 --> 02:45:37.760]  Just follow the link and you're right in.
[02:45:37.760 --> 02:45:42.920]  And when you hear him talk, you're like, thank God there's FBI agents who think like this
[02:45:42.920 --> 02:45:50.520]  guy does because he understood his duty in order to interpose and be a whistleblower.
[02:45:50.520 --> 02:45:53.160]  So he's in the FBI for four years.
[02:45:53.160 --> 02:45:59.400]  He was a Waukesha, Wisconsin police officer prior to that, has a wife, four children.
[02:45:59.880 --> 02:46:08.720]  The FBI, of course, starts acting crazy in 21, 22, late 20.
[02:46:08.720 --> 02:46:15.200]  So he begins to bring this to Congress's purview.
[02:46:15.200 --> 02:46:20.000]  And there's laws about this, about whistleblowers and how they're to be treated and whatnot.
[02:46:20.000 --> 02:46:26.200]  And the reason he did it, David, is because he saw that the FBI was using foreign counter
[02:46:26.280 --> 02:46:34.160]  terrorism measures on U.S. citizens, including moms and dads, mostly moms who were going
[02:46:34.160 --> 02:46:40.360]  to school board meetings because they were bothered about their kids being masked up.
[02:46:40.360 --> 02:46:45.600]  And of course, then it bled into other areas where their children are being taught despicable
[02:46:45.600 --> 02:46:49.320]  things that they knew nothing about prior to the masking.
[02:46:49.320 --> 02:46:54.640]  They're using those counterterrorism measures for foreigners on American citizens.
[02:46:54.760 --> 02:46:59.040]  And those are the American citizens they're concerned about, that they want to use these
[02:46:59.040 --> 02:47:00.040]  measures on.
[02:47:00.040 --> 02:47:03.240]  That's what he was whistleblowing about, that and other things.
[02:47:03.240 --> 02:47:04.800]  But that was a big one.
[02:47:04.800 --> 02:47:07.800]  You know, that's interesting, isn't it, man?
[02:47:07.800 --> 02:47:08.800]  Yeah.
[02:47:08.800 --> 02:47:09.800]  Let me just interject here.
[02:47:09.800 --> 02:47:10.800]  I'm sorry to interrupt you.
[02:47:10.800 --> 02:47:12.960]  But you know, that's one of the things I said.
[02:47:12.960 --> 02:47:19.640]  The golden lining, a silver lining or whatever, this cloud of lockdown, you know, God works
[02:47:19.640 --> 02:47:20.800]  in mysterious ways, doesn't he?
[02:47:20.840 --> 02:47:27.040]  And so as kids are locked down and they have to do online school, parents finally were
[02:47:27.040 --> 02:47:30.480]  able to see what was actually happening in their child's classroom.
[02:47:30.480 --> 02:47:35.120]  I've had this discussion with parents for decades, you know, going back to even before
[02:47:35.120 --> 02:47:40.560]  we had our own kids, trying to tell them of my wife's experience in teaching school and
[02:47:40.560 --> 02:47:41.560]  things like that.
[02:47:41.560 --> 02:47:43.920]  They would never believe what was happening in the schools.
[02:47:43.920 --> 02:47:48.400]  They would always say, well, that's another school, even if it came to their state or
[02:47:48.400 --> 02:47:49.960]  it came to their particular school.
[02:47:49.960 --> 02:47:50.960]  No, no, no.
[02:47:50.960 --> 02:47:52.400]  The teacher in my classroom is fine.
[02:47:52.400 --> 02:47:56.920]  They were finally able to see that, yes, it is happening in my child's classroom.
[02:47:56.920 --> 02:47:59.920]  And so I think that that was a real blessing from God.
[02:47:59.920 --> 02:48:04.080]  Sometimes we see that in the storms of life and it educated so many parents.
[02:48:04.080 --> 02:48:08.280]  But then when they go to the school board to complain about it, the FBI starts tracking
[02:48:08.280 --> 02:48:09.280]  them.
[02:48:09.280 --> 02:48:10.280]  Yes.
[02:48:10.280 --> 02:48:11.280]  Yeah.
[02:48:11.280 --> 02:48:13.600]  We had the same experience as you.
[02:48:13.600 --> 02:48:19.000]  You know, all of a sudden all these people in the early 2020s are telling us, can you
[02:48:19.040 --> 02:48:21.960]  believe what these schools are teaching my son, my daughter?
[02:48:21.960 --> 02:48:25.440]  It's like we've been saying this for 30 years.
[02:48:27.040 --> 02:48:29.520]  It's like they just had this revelation.
[02:48:30.040 --> 02:48:34.360]  And of course, it was good to see parents realizing these things and understanding
[02:48:34.360 --> 02:48:36.360]  their duty and no longer just shirking it.
[02:48:36.880 --> 02:48:38.960]  And of course, they were still a minority, right?
[02:48:39.120 --> 02:48:42.400]  Maybe made up 10 or 15 percent of the parents overall.
[02:48:43.200 --> 02:48:47.760]  But that's a huge number for the American response to evil.
[02:48:48.240 --> 02:48:53.600]  So it was encouraging to see so many parents realize for the first time.
[02:48:53.600 --> 02:48:57.960]  And it led to many of them either pulling their kids out and going to private schools
[02:48:57.960 --> 02:48:59.120]  or homeschooling.
[02:48:59.200 --> 02:49:02.800]  Yeah. And the other thing, you know, all this stuff about socialization, you've heard it
[02:49:02.800 --> 02:49:04.680]  as well. Well, what about socialization?
[02:49:04.680 --> 02:49:07.360]  It's like, yeah, what about socialization in 2020?
[02:49:08.360 --> 02:49:09.360]  How did that work out?
[02:49:09.400 --> 02:49:14.640]  You know, and so it just by that awful thing that we went through, God just pulled back
[02:49:14.640 --> 02:49:18.800]  the curtain and showed anybody who wants to there's no excuse for people to not
[02:49:18.800 --> 02:49:20.280]  understand that. Now they lived it.
[02:49:21.320 --> 02:49:27.280]  Exactly. You know, and they're concerned about, you know, so social male adjusted.
[02:49:27.280 --> 02:49:30.920]  Your kids will be so I heard that beginning me and my wife were homeschooling back in
[02:49:30.920 --> 02:49:32.080]  the 80s, early 80s.
[02:49:32.600 --> 02:49:35.480]  And you were an oddity at that time.
[02:49:35.680 --> 02:49:37.360]  Much more common now back then.
[02:49:37.360 --> 02:49:38.680]  You were weird. Yeah.
[02:49:38.760 --> 02:49:41.400]  And, oh, they'll be socially male adjusted.
[02:49:42.320 --> 02:49:46.440]  What we found was, you know, homeschooling kids can actually have a rational
[02:49:46.440 --> 02:49:47.920]  conversation with adults.
[02:49:47.960 --> 02:49:52.720]  Yes. Meanwhile, the kids going to the government school are pondering whether they
[02:49:52.720 --> 02:49:56.920]  should use the kiddie litter box to go to the bathroom or not inside the public
[02:49:56.920 --> 02:50:00.080]  restroom. Who's got the crazy problem here?
[02:50:01.800 --> 02:50:05.600]  Yeah, I remember. And, you know, I lived through that because I went to a government
[02:50:05.600 --> 02:50:08.920]  school. If somebody is a year older than you, you were afraid of them.
[02:50:08.920 --> 02:50:11.680]  If they were a year younger than you, you had contempt for them, that type of thing.
[02:50:11.680 --> 02:50:16.240]  You could see that throughout the, you know, and so I'd say, yeah, when we talk about
[02:50:16.240 --> 02:50:21.440]  socialization, maybe they should be socialized by their parents rather than a kind
[02:50:21.440 --> 02:50:26.080]  of Lord of the Flies type of socialization, which is what they were getting in the
[02:50:26.080 --> 02:50:32.760]  schools even back then before they started all of this active, you know, agenda
[02:50:32.760 --> 02:50:36.480]  of propaganda, sexualization, all the rest of the stuff that we now see.
[02:50:36.480 --> 02:50:40.680]  I mean, it really got bad. But, you know, even when we look at the FBI looking at
[02:50:40.680 --> 02:50:47.960]  people, we had back in 2013, Ed Snowden showed us that they were spying on
[02:50:47.960 --> 02:50:50.720]  Americans, you know, for no reason at all.
[02:50:51.120 --> 02:50:56.160]  And and we knew that, you know, James Clapper was questioned about that just a
[02:50:56.160 --> 02:50:58.040]  couple of months before Snowden released the stuff.
[02:50:58.040 --> 02:51:02.120]  But even going beyond that, the whole reason that we had FISA was because from its
[02:51:02.120 --> 02:51:06.760]  inception, you had the CIA and the NSA spying on Americans with a search warrant,
[02:51:06.960 --> 02:51:08.640]  listening to their phones and so forth.
[02:51:08.760 --> 02:51:11.400]  So this has all been there. They created FISA to stop it.
[02:51:11.640 --> 02:51:16.360]  And then these people used FISA to give them legal cover to continue to do what
[02:51:16.360 --> 02:51:19.560]  they have been doing from their inception right after World War Two.
[02:51:19.720 --> 02:51:22.880]  And so this is it's good that this stuff is coming out.
[02:51:23.240 --> 02:51:27.800]  And it's really good to see FBI agents who become whistleblowers about this.
[02:51:28.120 --> 02:51:31.880]  But again, it's still an issue, just like people seeing what's happening in the
[02:51:31.880 --> 02:51:34.880]  schools, how do we motivate people to do something about it?
[02:51:34.920 --> 02:51:37.600]  But it's very important that you have a whistleblower who does that.
[02:51:37.600 --> 02:51:42.600]  And I talked to the FBI agent friend, I think his first name is Steve Friend,
[02:51:43.000 --> 02:51:47.280]  talked to him a while back, and he was also somebody who was going to do the
[02:51:47.280 --> 02:51:49.480]  right thing. He was not going to violate the law.
[02:51:49.680 --> 02:51:51.600]  He was not going to violate his moral principles.
[02:51:51.960 --> 02:51:55.160]  And so they kicked him out, like so many people in the military who weren't going
[02:51:55.160 --> 02:51:58.600]  to violate their moral principles over the vaccine and other things like that.
[02:51:58.880 --> 02:52:02.880]  These institutions, it's just an evidence of how corrupt they are that they
[02:52:02.880 --> 02:52:08.280]  eject people who have moral concerns or want to obey the Constitution, isn't it?
[02:52:09.520 --> 02:52:13.560]  Absolutely. Yeah. And he actually, Garrett Boyle in his interview,
[02:52:13.560 --> 02:52:16.720]  if people take the time to watch, and I would encourage them to do so,
[02:52:17.920 --> 02:52:22.280]  talks about the fact that he believes the FBI is so corrupt that it needs to be
[02:52:22.280 --> 02:52:27.000]  abolished. And one of the things he talked about also is how few of them,
[02:52:27.320 --> 02:52:31.440]  there's like five or six FBI agents that became whistleblowers of all this
[02:52:31.440 --> 02:52:34.120]  evil's going on. What does that tell you, David?
[02:52:34.520 --> 02:52:36.480]  It tells you that the history books are right,
[02:52:36.880 --> 02:52:39.000]  that most people go along to get along,
[02:52:39.400 --> 02:52:42.840]  that they only look out for themselves, that they accommodate themselves to the
[02:52:42.840 --> 02:52:47.840]  evil. They actually aid and abet the evil either through their silence or their
[02:52:48.280 --> 02:52:51.880]  complicity with going along with the evil edicts that are made.
[02:52:52.160 --> 02:52:55.640]  So men like Garrett Boyle are massively rare.
[02:52:56.320 --> 02:52:57.680]  And unfortunately,
[02:52:58.160 --> 02:53:03.120]  and so I would encourage you to take the time to listen to what he has to say and
[02:53:03.120 --> 02:53:05.680]  see how he thinks, because when you hear him,
[02:53:05.680 --> 02:53:09.000]  he's a Christian man and he's theologically driven.
[02:53:09.320 --> 02:53:12.880]  It's interesting because he mentions in there that the first time he heard about
[02:53:12.880 --> 02:53:17.880]  the doctrine of the lesser magistrate was from a CI, a confidential informant.
[02:53:20.240 --> 02:53:24.840]  Cause they were, they were spying on pro-lifers, the FBI spying on pro-lifers.
[02:53:25.240 --> 02:53:27.160]  And so they, um,
[02:53:27.440 --> 02:53:32.360]  his confidential informant tells them, Oh, you're from Wisconsin.
[02:53:32.400 --> 02:53:34.680]  Have you ever heard of this pastor, Matt Chewalla?
[02:53:34.720 --> 02:53:38.240]  And he wrote this book on the doctrine of the lesser. And he goes,
[02:53:38.240 --> 02:53:42.360]  that was the first time I ever heard of it and began to study about it.
[02:53:42.480 --> 02:53:47.480]  And he does a great job to hear a former FBI agent talk about the doctrine of
[02:53:47.680 --> 02:53:48.080]  the lesser,
[02:53:48.080 --> 02:53:53.080]  who's actually demonstrated to the hazarding of his own life and family.
[02:53:54.080 --> 02:53:57.520]  You have no idea how good that is to the heart, David. So encouraging.
[02:53:58.120 --> 02:54:02.160]  Oh, that's great. Yeah. Yeah. And that is what you said is so important.
[02:54:02.640 --> 02:54:06.040]  How few people push back, you know,
[02:54:06.040 --> 02:54:08.760]  how few people push back about this in any of these institutions,
[02:54:08.760 --> 02:54:10.880]  whether you're talking about the FBI, you're talking about the military,
[02:54:11.040 --> 02:54:12.960]  whether you're talking about the hospitals, right?
[02:54:13.160 --> 02:54:15.800]  They're literally killing people on ventilators.
[02:54:16.040 --> 02:54:19.840]  And I interviewed a woman who wrote Pandemic Nurse.
[02:54:19.920 --> 02:54:22.920]  She volunteered to go up to New York from Florida because she said,
[02:54:22.920 --> 02:54:25.480]  I didn't see any pandemic in Florida. So she went to New York.
[02:54:25.840 --> 02:54:27.960]  They let her sit around for several days before they brought her in.
[02:54:27.960 --> 02:54:29.560]  Then when they gave her the tour, the doctor says, you know,
[02:54:29.560 --> 02:54:34.280]  these ventilators more than, you know, 80, 88% of the people,
[02:54:34.280 --> 02:54:38.080]  whatever high eighties are going to die from this stuff. It's like,
[02:54:38.120 --> 02:54:40.520]  what is going on with this? But they were fine. You know,
[02:54:40.520 --> 02:54:43.040]  they were, they were fine to do that because they were getting paid.
[02:54:43.320 --> 02:54:46.320]  And that's what we see in all of these institutions. You know,
[02:54:46.320 --> 02:54:49.680]  the only way that we're going to have any change is if you're going to have
[02:54:49.960 --> 02:54:54.280]  people like Garrett Boyle, who is going to, you know,
[02:54:54.280 --> 02:54:57.760]  stand up to this. O'Boyle is his name. Garrett O'Boyle.
[02:54:58.880 --> 02:55:03.880]  Garrett G-A-R-R-E-T and it's O apostrophe B-O-Y-L-E.
[02:55:05.720 --> 02:55:07.680]  That's how you spell his name. If people want to look this up.
[02:55:07.920 --> 02:55:11.200]  Where can they find it? Can they find the link to this interview of his?
[02:55:11.680 --> 02:55:15.680]  We got a website. It's our top story. It's defytyrants.com.
[02:55:15.680 --> 02:55:17.960]  You'll see it right there. Just if you're on your phone,
[02:55:17.960 --> 02:55:20.600]  you got to scroll down a little bit, but on your, on your laptop,
[02:55:20.600 --> 02:55:23.400]  it'll be right there. Good, good. That is key. You know,
[02:55:23.960 --> 02:55:28.960]  you mentioned pay and that is a huge thing because I was amazed like during
[02:55:29.440 --> 02:55:31.840]  COVID, for example, and all what was going on there,
[02:55:32.200 --> 02:55:35.800]  how many people would comply just to keep their job. And of course,
[02:55:35.800 --> 02:55:36.960]  you're mentioning something more,
[02:55:37.080 --> 02:55:41.880]  more dire about COVID where they're actually using protocols that are killing
[02:55:41.880 --> 02:55:46.280]  people. And yet people would go along with it for the pay.
[02:55:46.280 --> 02:55:49.800]  They would justify it all in their mind, David, as, well,
[02:55:49.800 --> 02:55:54.800]  I got to provide for my family and I need this job. And I'm just like,
[02:55:55.120 --> 02:55:57.280]  who, who am I living amongst?
[02:55:57.280 --> 02:56:02.280]  Because most of them claim Christ in America still and go to church and you
[02:56:03.800 --> 02:56:07.600]  think like that. What are you listening to from your pulpits?
[02:56:08.560 --> 02:56:11.880]  You don't think that God's your provider? That God won't, if you do,
[02:56:12.240 --> 02:56:14.440]  what you're saying is that if I do the right thing,
[02:56:14.800 --> 02:56:16.960]  God's not going to provide for me. That's,
[02:56:16.960 --> 02:56:21.640]  that's the antithesis of what we see throughout the Bible. God always provides.
[02:56:21.680 --> 02:56:23.920]  It, you know, you may go through some difficult times,
[02:56:23.920 --> 02:56:27.160]  but he's always going to provide everything that you need. That's the promise.
[02:56:27.160 --> 02:56:28.960]  And if you're a Christian, you gotta, you know,
[02:56:28.960 --> 02:56:31.000]  you should be believing God for the promise.
[02:56:31.000 --> 02:56:36.000]  But what that is is an act of denial of God, of disbelief,
[02:56:36.680 --> 02:56:41.120]  that God would be just and that he would honor those who honor him.
[02:56:41.880 --> 02:56:45.600]  That is a foundational thing about your relationship and your understanding of
[02:56:45.600 --> 02:56:50.600]  God. I saw a lot of people who they didn't have a moral issue with the vaccine,
[02:56:53.720 --> 02:56:57.080]  but maybe they didn't understand that aspect of it.
[02:56:57.200 --> 02:57:00.560]  I think there is a moral issue to it, but that wasn't their concern.
[02:57:00.560 --> 02:57:03.400]  Their concern was that it was this thing that was untested.
[02:57:04.200 --> 02:57:07.720]  And it was a situation where they had to take it or lose their job.
[02:57:07.760 --> 02:57:10.920]  And so they took it and then they were seriously injured and they couldn't do
[02:57:10.920 --> 02:57:11.760]  their job. You know,
[02:57:11.760 --> 02:57:14.280]  and that's the other part of the trade off with it that just didn't make any
[02:57:14.280 --> 02:57:15.120]  sense.
[02:57:15.720 --> 02:57:19.720]  Made no sense whatsoever. Yeah. I have a son who was in the military,
[02:57:19.720 --> 02:57:20.960]  had a medical discharge.
[02:57:20.960 --> 02:57:24.080]  So he has to go every year and get checked out by a doctor.
[02:57:24.560 --> 02:57:27.240]  And in fall of 2020,
[02:57:27.760 --> 02:57:31.640]  the doctor he meets with is the same guy he always meets with.
[02:57:31.640 --> 02:57:32.280]  And he says,
[02:57:32.280 --> 02:57:35.880]  can I get a letter from you about not getting the shot? Cause at that time,
[02:57:35.880 --> 02:57:38.720]  they were talking about it and it hadn't come out yet.
[02:57:39.360 --> 02:57:41.920]  And the doctor laughed at him and said,
[02:57:41.960 --> 02:57:44.160]  they're never going to make anybody get the shot.
[02:57:44.720 --> 02:57:48.880]  Well, the next year that he came for the same appointment in September of
[02:57:48.880 --> 02:57:53.360]  2021, the doctor is there.
[02:57:53.360 --> 02:57:56.920]  Same one. And my son says, do you remember our conversation last year?
[02:57:56.920 --> 02:57:59.720]  And he goes, yes, I do. And he goes,
[02:57:59.720 --> 02:58:04.360]  I had to take my first shot in March this year and I've had nothing but
[02:58:05.280 --> 02:58:09.360]  problems within my body since then with severe back pain and other things.
[02:58:09.360 --> 02:58:12.840]  He said so much so, and he's about 58 years old,
[02:58:13.240 --> 02:58:16.920]  60 years old right in there. So much so that I'm thinking about,
[02:58:17.920 --> 02:58:22.600]  quitting my job because of how it impacted my health. He said,
[02:58:22.600 --> 02:58:26.600]  but I just decided a week ago, I really need my job.
[02:58:27.280 --> 02:58:32.120]  And so I'm going to get the second shot because it's mandatory to get the second
[02:58:32.120 --> 02:58:36.640]  shot. You know, he's in the veterans administration. And think of that, David,
[02:58:37.640 --> 02:58:40.520]  I just can't contemplate that in my mind.
[02:58:40.520 --> 02:58:44.520]  Where is the trust in the Lord like you're talking about? And,
[02:58:45.080 --> 02:58:48.080]  you know, you look at, and, but this again, has always been a problem.
[02:58:48.080 --> 02:58:52.440]  So few people willing to stand. I mean, you know, right,
[02:58:52.800 --> 02:58:57.520]  you know, Bendigo and the other two weren't the only three young Hebrew men
[02:58:57.920 --> 02:58:59.960]  in Babylon at that time. You know,
[02:59:00.320 --> 02:59:04.520]  there were tens of thousands of them and three stood. It was like,
[02:59:05.160 --> 02:59:08.000]  what in the world? So yeah, as Christ people,
[02:59:08.000 --> 02:59:12.640]  especially we named the name of Christ, we should stand true to him, to truth,
[02:59:13.040 --> 02:59:17.280]  and, you know, interpose him away on behalf of our neighbor.
[02:59:17.640 --> 02:59:19.280]  It isn't that always,
[02:59:19.280 --> 02:59:23.200]  it comes back to these same fundamental things that Jesus hammered all the time,
[02:59:23.240 --> 02:59:26.320]  you know, fear. Who do you fear? What do you fear?
[02:59:26.600 --> 02:59:30.480]  Do you fear a virus or a pandemic or disease, or do you fear God?
[02:59:30.920 --> 02:59:34.320]  And who do you trust and what do you love? You know,
[02:59:34.320 --> 02:59:37.240]  do you love money more than your fellow man? You know,
[02:59:37.240 --> 02:59:40.440]  are you going to go through these procedures at the hospitals and,
[02:59:40.440 --> 02:59:44.880]  and do this to other people or even do it to yourself because of the love of
[02:59:44.880 --> 02:59:47.320]  money? That is the key thing, you know?
[02:59:47.320 --> 02:59:50.320]  And it's just these fundamental things that, that, that, uh,
[02:59:50.360 --> 02:59:55.120]  everything else is built upon. And it's really taken us down this, this path.
[02:59:55.120 --> 02:59:56.920]  So I've talked to, to people,
[02:59:56.920 --> 02:59:59.760]  police officers who've been injured and can't work anymore.
[02:59:59.760 --> 03:00:03.840]  I've talked to a surgeon who can't do it anymore because his hand shakes all the
[03:00:03.840 --> 03:00:06.240]  time. Uh, it's just horrific. And,
[03:00:06.520 --> 03:00:10.400]  and yet there's been no accountability for any of that's the other thing too,
[03:00:10.440 --> 03:00:14.160]  right? As, as Christians, we have to also,
[03:00:14.160 --> 03:00:17.760]  if we've been injured or we've had loved ones who have been injured or killed,
[03:00:17.760 --> 03:00:22.040]  I have a lot of listeners who have lost family members, uh, spouses,
[03:00:22.040 --> 03:00:24.120]  and other things like that. Um,
[03:00:24.160 --> 03:00:29.080]  we have to understand that, um, that justice is with God. And, um,
[03:00:29.360 --> 03:00:29.680]  you know,
[03:00:29.680 --> 03:00:34.680]  and leave that with him and actually move on and not let that eat at us.
[03:00:35.840 --> 03:00:38.480]  We have to forgive that and move on. Uh,
[03:00:38.480 --> 03:00:41.120]  but we don't see any justice at all coming from the government.
[03:00:41.120 --> 03:00:43.520]  The government's job is not to forgive this kind of stuff,
[03:00:43.520 --> 03:00:47.640]  but to have an accounting for it. And yet we see exactly the opposite.
[03:00:47.640 --> 03:00:51.080]  The people who have been, um, who have been rewarded for this,
[03:00:51.120 --> 03:00:52.840]  the people who get to run again for president,
[03:00:52.880 --> 03:00:54.840]  the people who are talking about, well, next time,
[03:00:55.040 --> 03:00:58.560]  let's make sure that we get the money from the mRNA to go into a sovereign
[03:00:58.560 --> 03:01:01.600]  wealth fund. That's what, what Lutnick is saying yesterday. Yeah.
[03:01:01.680 --> 03:01:03.760]  All we're looking at is the money. How do we, next time,
[03:01:03.760 --> 03:01:05.560]  how do we make more money out of this type of thing?
[03:01:05.560 --> 03:01:08.480]  And there's no accountability for these people. Thatchie is free.
[03:01:08.840 --> 03:01:12.920]  All these people are free. Yeah. And new schemes too. You know,
[03:01:13.240 --> 03:01:16.840]  we're going to get a vaccine for cancer for mRNA.
[03:01:17.320 --> 03:01:20.840]  Yeah. Designed by AI. Yeah, exactly.
[03:01:21.320 --> 03:01:25.040]  Within 48 hours. Yeah. Oh,
[03:01:25.080 --> 03:01:28.760]  I can see them lining up for that one. And you're just like,
[03:01:29.320 --> 03:01:31.840]  you have to speak out when you see that kind of thing.
[03:01:31.840 --> 03:01:35.680]  So people can understand what's right and what's true. And unfortunately,
[03:01:35.680 --> 03:01:39.920]  you know, I am a churchman. I pastor a church here and, um, we have, you know,
[03:01:39.920 --> 03:01:44.600]  about 250 people in the congregation. And what I found is, is, um,
[03:01:44.640 --> 03:01:49.080]  most of my fellow churchmen are absolutely silent on anything
[03:01:49.440 --> 03:01:53.640]  dealing with injustice, whatever area it may be at, um,
[03:01:53.640 --> 03:01:58.080]  including what all went on with COVID. So much so that, you know,
[03:01:58.080 --> 03:02:03.080]  like there's a guy here named Scott Schera who has a case that hasn't been
[03:02:03.360 --> 03:02:06.800]  crushed yet. Cause most of them have been, um,
[03:02:06.840 --> 03:02:10.400]  that's moving forward cause they killed his daughter. I know. I've talked to,
[03:02:10.400 --> 03:02:13.440]  I've interviewed Scott many times. His daughter, Grace. Yeah.
[03:02:13.480 --> 03:02:17.320]  My amazing grace, I think is his amazing. Yeah. It's my amazing grace. Yeah.
[03:02:17.640 --> 03:02:20.760]  I've talked to him many times and that's a landmark case, uh,
[03:02:20.800 --> 03:02:24.240]  that could make a big difference for a lot of people because one person stands
[03:02:24.240 --> 03:02:28.680]  up, you get an FBI whistleblower who stands up or somebody like Scott who stands
[03:02:28.680 --> 03:02:30.520]  up and, and, uh, says, well,
[03:02:30.520 --> 03:02:33.880]  I'm going to make sure this doesn't happen to somebody else. And, uh, that,
[03:02:33.880 --> 03:02:37.320]  that is a landmark case because it's not simply about malpractice.
[03:02:37.320 --> 03:02:40.480]  It's about the malicious acts of people who knew what they were doing.
[03:02:40.480 --> 03:02:42.040]  And that's what we've seen over and over again.
[03:02:43.040 --> 03:02:46.440]  Yes, absolutely. Yeah. And so he'll tell you,
[03:02:47.480 --> 03:02:51.960]  no churchmen want him talking about what happened with his daughter
[03:02:52.360 --> 03:02:53.480]  anywhere. That's how much,
[03:02:54.280 --> 03:02:58.880]  how pietistic, um, American Christianity has become, uh,
[03:02:58.920 --> 03:03:01.560]  he attends our church from time to time. He's two hours away.
[03:03:01.560 --> 03:03:03.760]  He was just there last Sunday. Um,
[03:03:03.760 --> 03:03:07.120]  another man who took his case cause they wouldn't let him use ivermectin.
[03:03:07.120 --> 03:03:09.320]  He was dying in the hospital, was there for months.
[03:03:10.000 --> 03:03:13.640]  His family interviewed for him with even public protests. Yeah.
[03:03:13.680 --> 03:03:16.720]  He's come to Christ since then. He attends our congregation.
[03:03:17.200 --> 03:03:21.200]  But so rare are the churchmen who speak out that people,
[03:03:21.200 --> 03:03:25.440]  if they just spoke out on these things would be drawn to hear what they have to
[03:03:25.440 --> 03:03:30.240]  say and wouldn't hopefully come to know Christ as their savior.
[03:03:30.480 --> 03:03:32.720]  That's right. And these are important matters.
[03:03:33.040 --> 03:03:36.400]  I got to grab my charging cord because my thing's about to die on you.
[03:03:36.440 --> 03:03:39.000]  Sure. Absolutely. Well, while you do that, while you do that,
[03:03:39.040 --> 03:03:42.840]  let me read this comment from Holistic Nurse, one who says,
[03:03:43.200 --> 03:03:47.840]  fear is mentioned in the Bible over 300 times and most Christians in name
[03:03:47.920 --> 03:03:51.840]  aren't reading his word. That's right. How many times do you hear in the Bible?
[03:03:51.840 --> 03:03:53.320]  Fear not, fear not, fear not.
[03:03:53.840 --> 03:03:58.800]  And you don't really understand who God is if you're afraid.
[03:03:59.160 --> 03:03:59.920]  You really don't.
[03:03:59.920 --> 03:04:04.080]  And if you step out in faith and take these challenges,
[03:04:04.960 --> 03:04:07.880]  uh, then what that does is that helps you to see God. You know,
[03:04:08.040 --> 03:04:12.280]  when we go through these dark times and, and we step out in faith to say, well,
[03:04:13.160 --> 03:04:16.080]  this is really scary, but I'm going to do, I'm going to follow God.
[03:04:16.080 --> 03:04:17.640]  I'm going to follow these moral principles.
[03:04:17.640 --> 03:04:21.840]  What you find is that God has your back. I've seen that over and over again.
[03:04:21.840 --> 03:04:25.920]  I love the illustration out of John Bunyan's Pilgrim's Progress,
[03:04:26.280 --> 03:04:29.120]  where there's a couple of lions on the path that he's got to go through.
[03:04:29.680 --> 03:04:34.160]  And he finally gets the courage to get up there close to him and he realizes that
[03:04:34.160 --> 03:04:38.360]  they're on chains and they can't, they can't get all the way to him.
[03:04:38.520 --> 03:04:42.600]  But we understand that even if we get ripped apart by lions,
[03:04:42.600 --> 03:04:45.160]  as many of the early Christians did, uh,
[03:04:45.200 --> 03:04:50.320]  we understand that that is not the end of things. And, uh, so, um,
[03:04:50.400 --> 03:04:54.760]  it's that understanding of what our relationship is with God and what, uh,
[03:04:54.800 --> 03:04:58.880]  this life is, is just a small little blip, uh, before eternity.
[03:04:59.240 --> 03:05:02.080]  Uh, those are the things that should keep us from being afraid, aren't they?
[03:05:02.080 --> 03:05:03.960]  Are you back, Matt? Okay, good.
[03:05:04.200 --> 03:05:06.520]  I'm here. Yes. Yeah. And I, I want to,
[03:05:07.000 --> 03:05:10.960]  the tender care of God for his people is seen again and again.
[03:05:11.360 --> 03:05:14.560]  We saw it during COVID. I mean, we have one family. They had eight kids.
[03:05:14.560 --> 03:05:16.560]  The guy worked for a company for 20 years,
[03:05:16.880 --> 03:05:19.640]  wasn't going to go along with the fiction, lost his job,
[03:05:20.560 --> 03:05:22.120]  but God used it all for good.
[03:05:22.120 --> 03:05:27.080]  And we saw that with several other people in the congregation lost their jobs
[03:05:27.080 --> 03:05:28.920]  cause they wouldn't go along with the fiction.
[03:05:29.480 --> 03:05:32.880]  And some of them might've had a harder time for a short time, as you mentioned,
[03:05:33.360 --> 03:05:37.560]  but in the end they could see the goodness of God and how that all played out
[03:05:37.560 --> 03:05:42.040]  because of their simply being faithful to him, trusting in him.
[03:05:42.360 --> 03:05:46.320]  I remember when I was a young churchman, David, um,
[03:05:46.320 --> 03:05:48.280]  I left the denomination. I was a part of it.
[03:05:48.320 --> 03:05:52.840]  It was a huge deal because of the money because of the job security,
[03:05:53.120 --> 03:05:57.360]  because of all that stuff, you know, you're like, Oh, this is a big deal.
[03:05:57.440 --> 03:06:02.120]  And then you see God's care for you and,
[03:06:02.840 --> 03:06:06.960]  and you just see it again and again and again throughout life.
[03:06:07.840 --> 03:06:11.080]  And he is so faithful and caring for his people.
[03:06:11.560 --> 03:06:13.040]  And we just need to do right by him.
[03:06:13.520 --> 03:06:13.800]  Yeah.
[03:06:13.800 --> 03:06:16.720]  When we sold our video business because we wanted to get out of the video
[03:06:16.720 --> 03:06:20.000]  business after we became Christians and, and I thought, all right, good, you know,
[03:06:20.000 --> 03:06:24.920]  and, and we've put that aside. And then the money that we got from it, uh, it was a,
[03:06:24.920 --> 03:06:29.000]  the thing was a scam. The guy was a con artist that had put the whole deal
[03:06:29.000 --> 03:06:31.280]  together and we lost everything. I thought, wait a minute,
[03:06:31.280 --> 03:06:33.280]  I thought I was doing the right thing, you know?
[03:06:33.280 --> 03:06:37.720]  And what I didn't realize was going to happen was over the next few years,
[03:06:38.080 --> 03:06:41.400]  as we were living from one incident to the other,
[03:06:41.600 --> 03:06:46.440]  we saw God delivering for us just in time. And that was priceless.
[03:06:46.480 --> 03:06:49.000]  There wasn't anything that we could have gotten from that business.
[03:06:51.040 --> 03:06:53.280]  Amen. I've seen it time and time again in my life.
[03:06:53.680 --> 03:06:56.200]  You read about the saints of old, you know,
[03:06:56.880 --> 03:06:59.400]  they've written about God's care for them.
[03:06:59.920 --> 03:07:03.800]  And there's a whole new group of people who name his name who,
[03:07:03.800 --> 03:07:05.280]  because of the whole COVID thing,
[03:07:05.880 --> 03:07:10.920]  have been able to experience that also and see the tender care of the Lord for
[03:07:10.920 --> 03:07:12.680]  his people. It's an awesome thing.
[03:07:13.200 --> 03:07:18.120]  And there were so many silver linings throughout all of COVID and
[03:07:18.200 --> 03:07:20.880]  amongst whatever evil is coming our way ahead. Cause I'll tell you,
[03:07:20.920 --> 03:07:22.200]  most people think, you know,
[03:07:22.200 --> 03:07:26.840]  we're getting out of this all with going to the voting box and drinking a
[03:07:26.840 --> 03:07:30.720]  latte afterwards. And now living in a fantasy land,
[03:07:30.720 --> 03:07:32.360]  if you're theologically driven,
[03:07:32.680 --> 03:07:35.960]  you understand innocent blood is no small matter.
[03:07:36.640 --> 03:07:41.360]  And yeah, there's judgment upon this nation.
[03:07:41.360 --> 03:07:43.840]  It's going to come. And you know,
[03:07:43.840 --> 03:07:48.560]  we saw a delay when we read the scriptures and King Josiah being there,
[03:07:48.560 --> 03:07:51.480]  but two generations later, God brought his judgment.
[03:07:53.360 --> 03:07:56.080]  You have to understand these things that people need to understand.
[03:07:57.200 --> 03:08:01.680]  The most important thing we can do at this time is call them under repentance
[03:08:01.680 --> 03:08:02.800]  and faith in Christ.
[03:08:02.920 --> 03:08:05.240]  I agree. Yeah. Your audio is breaking up a little bit.
[03:08:06.120 --> 03:08:09.480]  I'm not sure what's happening with that, but while you take a look at that,
[03:08:09.720 --> 03:08:13.440]  I got a comment here from DG8. He says, David Spoton,
[03:08:13.440 --> 03:08:17.040]  I trusted that God would provide a way doing the right thing.
[03:08:17.280 --> 03:08:20.520]  Must be a priority in our life. Stand up for your freedom.
[03:08:20.560 --> 03:08:25.520]  I know cops who did wrong in 2020 and said, I'm just doing my job. Yeah.
[03:08:25.520 --> 03:08:27.920]  That's the sad thing that we have seen over and over again.
[03:08:27.920 --> 03:08:30.800]  And that's the excuse that you can always say that you don't have any
[03:08:30.800 --> 03:08:34.160]  responsibility. Well, you know, you're going to stand before God one day.
[03:08:34.160 --> 03:08:36.240]  You're not going to stand before your supervisor.
[03:08:36.680 --> 03:08:39.240]  You're not going to stand before the president of the United States,
[03:08:39.480 --> 03:08:42.120]  but you're going to answer to God for what you did.
[03:08:42.480 --> 03:08:45.120]  And that's the key thing that we need to all understand is that we're going to
[03:08:45.120 --> 03:08:48.120]  stand before God and we need to, you know,
[03:08:48.160 --> 03:08:50.640]  we have to give an answer for what we did. Absolutely.
[03:08:52.680 --> 03:08:57.920]  Let's talk a little bit about another subject that you had out.
[03:08:57.920 --> 03:09:00.920]  And that is what is happening with,
[03:09:01.320 --> 03:09:04.160]  and I'm still getting a little bit of audio issues there,
[03:09:04.160 --> 03:09:09.160]  but talk a little bit about TP USA and
[03:09:09.280 --> 03:09:13.040]  what is Talking Points USA? That's Charlie Kirk's group.
[03:09:13.480 --> 03:09:14.920]  And what is going on there?
[03:09:14.920 --> 03:09:18.320]  Because I've talked about what's going on with Charlie in the past and,
[03:09:18.640 --> 03:09:22.680]  and he's still doing the same thing, but he's talking a lot about God.
[03:09:22.680 --> 03:09:25.880]  He's doing a lot of God talk and yet he's doing some things that are very
[03:09:25.880 --> 03:09:29.240]  contrary to that, that I find to be very concerning. I think you do as well.
[03:09:30.200 --> 03:09:33.000]  I do. Absolutely. Yeah. And I can hear that noise too.
[03:09:33.000 --> 03:09:36.080]  And I don't know what it is, David. I'm sorry. That's okay. We're good now.
[03:09:36.120 --> 03:09:39.320]  Yeah. We're good. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
[03:09:39.600 --> 03:09:43.800]  Well, what happened here in Wisconsin, for example, was, you know,
[03:09:43.800 --> 03:09:47.360]  back in spring of 22, pardon me, spring of 23,
[03:09:47.800 --> 03:09:48.880]  less than two years ago,
[03:09:49.640 --> 03:09:54.240]  we had a big a Supreme court race and TP faith, TP USA,
[03:09:54.280 --> 03:09:57.120]  TP action. They're all the same thing.
[03:09:58.640 --> 03:10:03.040]  Came in and they started running around all over our state,
[03:10:03.080 --> 03:10:08.040]  a man named Scott Prezler. Scott Prezler is an open, unrepentant sodomite.
[03:10:08.160 --> 03:10:11.280]  He's one of those guys. You don't even have to wonder. I wonder if he's,
[03:10:11.880 --> 03:10:15.200]  I'm a homosexual because of how he talks.
[03:10:17.280 --> 03:10:22.120]  It makes it clear. And he was, you know, led a gaze for Trump.
[03:10:22.800 --> 03:10:26.640]  And so they're taking him the Republican parties,
[03:10:26.640 --> 03:10:31.160]  allowing this to go on and participating in it with TP USA and Charlie Kirk,
[03:10:31.200 --> 03:10:36.000]  putting an open sodomite on stages across our state.
[03:10:36.480 --> 03:10:39.080]  Well, I take great umbrage with that. And as a churchman,
[03:10:39.080 --> 03:10:43.720]  I preached a sermon called a Trojan horse in the Republican party,
[03:10:43.800 --> 03:10:44.600]  exposing it,
[03:10:45.360 --> 03:10:49.240]  which I had many Republicans tried to dissuade me from preaching that sermon,
[03:10:49.240 --> 03:10:53.000]  both those sitting on the legislature, those retired from the legislature,
[03:10:53.560 --> 03:10:57.280]  politicals and whatnot, but no, our faithfulness needs to be to Christ.
[03:10:57.920 --> 03:11:01.440]  And our, we had been helping this guy get elected.
[03:11:01.520 --> 03:11:04.680]  And now all of a sudden you have this open homosexual there. No,
[03:11:04.720 --> 03:11:06.440]  we're not going to be silent about that.
[03:11:07.520 --> 03:11:09.760]  So then they didn't learn from that.
[03:11:10.160 --> 03:11:15.160]  Instead what they did is for Trump running this last year for our state,
[03:11:16.040 --> 03:11:21.040]  they gave Scott Prezler $5 million. Who gave him $5 million?
[03:11:22.000 --> 03:11:27.000]  Oh, that would be Charlie Kirk, TP USA and the group there in order to run him
[03:11:29.880 --> 03:11:33.520]  all over our state to help get votes. And, um,
[03:11:33.840 --> 03:11:38.440]  so while the latest thing is, is, and it isn't just Charlie Kirk.
[03:11:38.440 --> 03:11:40.680]  There's other, I'm pardon me. It isn't just Scott Prezler.
[03:11:40.680 --> 03:11:42.240]  There's other homosexuals too.
[03:11:42.520 --> 03:11:42.720]  Yeah.
[03:11:42.720 --> 03:11:45.840]  I remember there was something a couple of years ago that the head he had,
[03:11:45.920 --> 03:11:50.080]  he was touring and he was at that time he wasn't talking about Christ.
[03:11:50.080 --> 03:11:51.440]  He was talking about culture war.
[03:11:51.880 --> 03:11:55.120]  And I remember and I've played it several times with several people who
[03:11:55.120 --> 03:11:59.200]  challenged him because he had a guy that was a black guy that was with him and
[03:11:59.200 --> 03:12:00.920]  they were both on stage and they were saying,
[03:12:00.920 --> 03:12:04.560]  how does this help the culture war to have this homosexual with you there?
[03:12:04.560 --> 03:12:08.920]  Right. And, um, you know, and he, and he, they got very angry and,
[03:12:08.920 --> 03:12:11.520]  and said, well, we got a big tent and all the rest of this kind of stuff.
[03:12:11.520 --> 03:12:13.360]  And now he's doing the same thing with Scott Prezler.
[03:12:13.480 --> 03:12:17.160]  We've seen this at Mar-a-Lago, you know, Mar-a-Lago they're welcome.
[03:12:17.160 --> 03:12:21.160]  They give awards to Melania. They, you know, the LGBT loves Melania.
[03:12:21.160 --> 03:12:24.920]  They've trumpeted the fact that they've got Rick Grinnell, uh,
[03:12:24.920 --> 03:12:28.320]  who's openly homosexual now, Scott Besant, who has a treasury secretary.
[03:12:28.640 --> 03:12:33.360]  And it's not just that, you know, well, okay, this guy is, is, um, you know,
[03:12:33.360 --> 03:12:36.280]  this is his personal life and we're not going to get involved. No, they're,
[03:12:36.640 --> 03:12:41.240]  they're putting that out there as a virtue as why this person is being
[03:12:41.240 --> 03:12:43.400]  chosen. Same as the left does.
[03:12:44.200 --> 03:12:45.000]  Right. Yeah.
[03:12:45.120 --> 03:12:48.560]  Yeah. And so on one hand, while Trump's talking about how there's only two
[03:12:48.560 --> 03:12:51.560]  genders, by the way, I already knew that before you mentioned it.
[03:12:51.800 --> 03:12:53.640]  I know. I know. Yeah.
[03:12:53.720 --> 03:12:58.320]  On the other hand, he's, he's appointing to his cabinet,
[03:12:59.200 --> 03:13:02.360]  more homosexuals than any other president prior to him.
[03:13:03.280 --> 03:13:04.480]  That's the duplicity.
[03:13:04.520 --> 03:13:08.480]  And Charlie Kirk is involved in the same duplicity during Christmas, you know,
[03:13:08.480 --> 03:13:12.960]  just last month, month and a half ago, December 21st,
[03:13:13.000 --> 03:13:16.960]  TP USA, TP action, TP faith did a big thing.
[03:13:16.960 --> 03:13:21.480]  I believe it was out in the Phoenix area, Arizona area, thousands of people,
[03:13:22.080 --> 03:13:23.240]  who did they put up there?
[03:13:23.720 --> 03:13:28.200]  And they're all applauding him and all shouting his name over and over again,
[03:13:28.480 --> 03:13:32.520]  Scott Prezler, the homosexual, the sodomite.
[03:13:32.960 --> 03:13:36.680]  So yeah, you look at these things and one, he likes to,
[03:13:36.720 --> 03:13:41.400]  Charlie likes to push these videos where he speaks against homosexual marriage
[03:13:41.880 --> 03:13:45.480]  or even homosexual sex. And, but then on the other hand,
[03:13:45.480 --> 03:13:49.600]  here he is putting someone who practices that evil
[03:13:50.400 --> 03:13:53.200]  in positions of prominence, putting them on a pedestal,
[03:13:53.920 --> 03:13:57.320]  that should bother people and that should be called to account.
[03:13:57.360 --> 03:14:00.000]  Yes. Oh, absolutely. You know, again,
[03:14:00.320 --> 03:14:04.560]  it says one thing when it's being done by a purely political organization. You know,
[03:14:04.560 --> 03:14:05.040]  you say, well,
[03:14:05.040 --> 03:14:08.280]  these people are working against the values of Christ and,
[03:14:08.560 --> 03:14:11.120]  and they're working against the family and all the rest of this stuff.
[03:14:11.360 --> 03:14:15.720]  But when it is somebody who's got this organization says we're TP faith, you know,
[03:14:15.720 --> 03:14:19.440]  and he wants to, he wants to talk about, you know,
[03:14:19.440 --> 03:14:22.880]  put himself out there as some kind of an evangelist or apologist for the
[03:14:22.880 --> 03:14:25.400]  Christian faith. And he does this type of thing that takes it to a whole new
[03:14:25.400 --> 03:14:26.240]  level.
[03:14:26.680 --> 03:14:30.080]  It does. Yeah. And so there needs to be called to account. I do.
[03:14:30.440 --> 03:14:33.600]  And the vitriol you get from so many Christians is stunning,
[03:14:33.960 --> 03:14:38.640]  including churchmen who are hooked up with TP USA. I'm always like,
[03:14:38.640 --> 03:14:42.080]  so I would like you guys to expose where all your money comes from,
[03:14:42.600 --> 03:14:46.920]  because go try to find out where all their money's coming from. Good luck.
[03:14:47.480 --> 03:14:49.200]  And you know,
[03:14:49.200 --> 03:14:52.560]  because usually when you can ascertain where someone's getting their funding
[03:14:52.560 --> 03:14:56.160]  from, you can learn pretty much everything you need to know. Yes.
[03:14:56.200 --> 03:14:59.480]  And where do they get their money from? Cause they have an unlimited supply.
[03:14:59.640 --> 03:15:02.520]  It is amazing. Yeah. $5 million just for him to go around.
[03:15:02.760 --> 03:15:06.840]  And we see this again with Awake in America. I've shown many times, you know,
[03:15:06.880 --> 03:15:10.320]  Michael Flynn there at the department of defense back in 2014,
[03:15:10.320 --> 03:15:14.720]  their second pride month. And he's pushing Chris Beck, the guy that was pushed,
[03:15:14.760 --> 03:15:18.400]  the Navy seal who was pushed into becoming a tranny and now has pushed back
[03:15:18.400 --> 03:15:20.840]  against that and said, you know, they did this to me as an adult.
[03:15:20.880 --> 03:15:23.800]  Imagine what they're doing to kids that are out there. But you know,
[03:15:23.800 --> 03:15:27.840]  you've got all these people who now reinvented themselves and you know,
[03:15:27.880 --> 03:15:31.560]  the reawakened tour is just one of those things. He's, he's going around.
[03:15:31.560 --> 03:15:36.240]  He's actually, you know, plagiarized and has, he's get these,
[03:15:36.280 --> 03:15:39.600]  they go to church buildings and they've got all these people there in this
[03:15:39.600 --> 03:15:44.480]  quasi religious political ceremony and he's got them reciting after
[03:15:44.520 --> 03:15:47.920]  him a prayer from Elizabeth Clare Prophet,
[03:15:47.920 --> 03:15:51.560]  who is this new age guru, you know, and,
[03:15:51.840 --> 03:15:56.280]  and he's got all these people in a building. There's a church building,
[03:15:56.360 --> 03:16:00.520]  like it's some kind of a Christian event reciting this prayer to ascended
[03:16:00.520 --> 03:16:02.720]  masters. It's insane what's going on.
[03:16:02.960 --> 03:16:07.400]  It is. And that's the thing that bothers me most about it all, David,
[03:16:07.680 --> 03:16:12.480]  is they're using Christ and Christianity to fuel it, to pump it,
[03:16:13.000 --> 03:16:15.080]  to hoodwink those who name his name.
[03:16:17.080 --> 03:16:20.920]  Yeah. And then there's the churchmen sitting by silent. When, you know,
[03:16:20.920 --> 03:16:25.800]  we look at the book of Acts with the elders of Ephesus and
[03:16:25.880 --> 03:16:28.000]  you know, Paul making clear to them,
[03:16:28.600 --> 03:16:31.200]  you have a duty to guard the flock.
[03:16:31.440 --> 03:16:35.520]  You have a duty to speak truth and come against evil.
[03:16:36.280 --> 03:16:39.120]  And we don't see that amongst the churchmen. And instead,
[03:16:39.120 --> 03:16:42.600]  what I've seen with many churchmen, even some I had respect for,
[03:16:43.080 --> 03:16:47.160]  they get hooked down to this whole Charlie Cook wagon train.
[03:16:48.760 --> 03:16:52.520]  They get paid massively good amounts of money. Oh yeah. Well, you know,
[03:16:52.520 --> 03:16:53.360]  I've seen it.
[03:16:53.360 --> 03:16:55.760]  You can't help but think to yourself, is it the money?
[03:16:56.920 --> 03:17:00.000]  Yeah. I've seen this with media. You know,
[03:17:00.120 --> 03:17:03.360]  people they're really ultimately hooking themselves to Trump. You know,
[03:17:03.360 --> 03:17:06.440]  that's what this is really about. That's what Charlie Kirk has done in a big way.
[03:17:06.760 --> 03:17:10.880]  And so you've got a lot of people who are afraid to criticize Trump because they
[03:17:10.880 --> 03:17:13.360]  know a lot of people are going to walk out of their church. You know,
[03:17:13.360 --> 03:17:16.480]  you've got people who do the news and they're afraid to say anything critical
[03:17:16.480 --> 03:17:20.080]  about Trump because they know they'll, they'll turn you off and you know,
[03:17:20.360 --> 03:17:22.680]  and they'll, they'll turn you off and they'll flip you off.
[03:17:24.840 --> 03:17:28.160]  I experienced that personally, you know? So it's, you know,
[03:17:28.520 --> 03:17:32.200]  people don't want to look at it in an objective way.
[03:17:32.200 --> 03:17:34.200]  It's become really a personality cult.
[03:17:34.680 --> 03:17:37.280]  And I think that's what's really dangerous about it. As you pointed out before,
[03:17:37.280 --> 03:17:41.200]  you knew there are two genders before Trump decreed it with an executive order.
[03:17:41.680 --> 03:17:42.360]  And that's the key.
[03:17:42.360 --> 03:17:46.480]  So many people out there are glorifying Trump for this.
[03:17:48.160 --> 03:17:51.160]  And I said, why didn't we do this from the grassroots? I mean, I never,
[03:17:51.440 --> 03:17:55.440]  I never bowed to any of this stuff. I was never ashamed to say anybody that, no,
[03:17:55.440 --> 03:17:58.640]  you're not a, you're not a, I haven't had any experiences with that,
[03:17:58.640 --> 03:18:01.600]  but I wouldn't be ashamed to say that to anybody.
[03:18:01.960 --> 03:18:05.520]  I'm not going to pretend that you're a different sex than you are.
[03:18:06.080 --> 03:18:09.280]  I wasn't going to do that. That's a real Orwellian tactic,
[03:18:09.320 --> 03:18:12.840]  but it's a tactic to get you to submit to them. But you know,
[03:18:12.840 --> 03:18:15.240]  even going to the pro-life issue, Matt,
[03:18:16.400 --> 03:18:20.960]  so many people were singing Trump's praises as he was trashing the pro-life
[03:18:20.960 --> 03:18:25.400]  movement, blaming it for midterm election losses that I thought were
[03:18:25.400 --> 03:18:30.360]  predominantly the big high profile people that he got behind were people like
[03:18:30.360 --> 03:18:34.160]  Dr. Oz. And, and it was the people that he put forward and he,
[03:18:34.240 --> 03:18:37.840]  he pushed that we're losing. And yet he blamed it on the pro-lifers and said,
[03:18:37.840 --> 03:18:41.280]  you know, well, I did all this stuff for them. And then they abandoned me.
[03:18:41.680 --> 03:18:43.880]  And I said for the longest time,
[03:18:43.880 --> 03:18:47.800]  people need to give God the glory for overturning Roe v. Wade.
[03:18:47.800 --> 03:18:51.080]  People prayed about that for decades. And then when it happened,
[03:18:51.080 --> 03:18:55.160]  they give the glory to Trump and he doesn't even want it. He doesn't even want it.
[03:18:55.240 --> 03:18:56.760]  Right. Yeah.
[03:18:56.760 --> 03:19:01.120]  And the GOP has been pumping that fiction everywhere across the country,
[03:19:01.120 --> 03:19:04.040]  including here in our state, Wisconsin, that, you know,
[03:19:04.040 --> 03:19:06.960]  we have to stay away from the abortion issue. It's a losing issue.
[03:19:07.960 --> 03:19:12.600]  15 weeks, you know, where 95% of the abortions have already been committed.
[03:19:13.520 --> 03:19:17.440]  That's when you can start talking about having laws against it. 15 weeks.
[03:19:18.000 --> 03:19:22.400]  And it's such a lie. And you know, you and I know, David,
[03:19:22.880 --> 03:19:26.920]  we've watched this for decades, the GOP and the conservatives,
[03:19:27.360 --> 03:19:32.680]  99% of them can't even defend their position
[03:19:32.720 --> 03:19:34.880]  why they're against the slaughter of a pre-born.
[03:19:35.760 --> 03:19:39.320]  They've so politicized the issue in their minds that it's an incremental
[03:19:39.320 --> 03:19:43.720]  regulationist endeavor that they can't bring themselves
[03:19:44.520 --> 03:19:48.680]  to realize the fact that no, you can't even,
[03:19:49.000 --> 03:19:53.240]  you don't, you cower every time it's brought up rather than, you know,
[03:19:53.480 --> 03:19:58.160]  taking them to task and using it as an opportunity to speak truth
[03:19:58.560 --> 03:20:02.240]  and to defend your pre-born neighbor. That's right. It's a, it's about,
[03:20:02.240 --> 03:20:05.120]  and this Garrett Boyle, when people listen to his interview too,
[03:20:05.120 --> 03:20:10.080]  it's funny because he brings up how he was by the FBI told to
[03:20:10.360 --> 03:20:14.040]  look into pro-life matters.
[03:20:14.600 --> 03:20:19.280]  And he said it was interesting because I'm pretty much an abolitionist.
[03:20:19.280 --> 03:20:21.920]  He said when it comes to abortion,
[03:20:22.560 --> 03:20:27.040]  which was interesting to hear because that's not a term.
[03:20:27.040 --> 03:20:31.280]  Many within the civil realm would want to ascribe to themselves at all,
[03:20:32.200 --> 03:20:35.600]  especially following the wisdom of the GOP and what they're trying to peddle at
[03:20:35.600 --> 03:20:37.200]  this time for people to accept.
[03:20:38.200 --> 03:20:41.200]  Oh, I agree. But it is like, you know, slavery,
[03:20:41.200 --> 03:20:43.040]  because we're talking about personhood. I mentioned this,
[03:20:44.920 --> 03:20:47.240]  yesterday, I think it was, or Friday,
[03:20:47.520 --> 03:20:51.760]  there was a mountain in New Zealand that the pagans there,
[03:20:51.760 --> 03:20:55.520]  that basically gave personhood to this mountain.
[03:20:56.160 --> 03:20:59.520]  And I said, that's the, isn't that interesting? You know, they have very,
[03:20:59.520 --> 03:21:04.000]  very liberal abortion laws that basically don't punish people for anything in
[03:21:04.000 --> 03:21:08.240]  New Zealand. So babies don't have personhood, but a mountain does.
[03:21:08.280 --> 03:21:12.960]  And it's not the first time they've given, you know, nature a personhood.
[03:21:12.960 --> 03:21:16.320]  They've done it for a river. They've done it for a park or whatever.
[03:21:16.320 --> 03:21:17.800]  Now they've done it for a mountain.
[03:21:18.240 --> 03:21:22.960]  And so we just don't understand what it means to be in the image of God.
[03:21:23.360 --> 03:21:28.360]  And I think that's a key thing that we need to recover with that.
[03:21:29.200 --> 03:21:31.440]  And that is the personhood. And, you know,
[03:21:31.440 --> 03:21:35.080]  we talk about the lost opportunities. I said all through the campaign, I said,
[03:21:35.080 --> 03:21:38.720]  you know, you could do it in a positive way.
[03:21:39.360 --> 03:21:42.720]  You could, there's a cartoon out there. I don't know if you've seen it or not.
[03:21:42.720 --> 03:21:47.720]  It was an animated film where this guy who was an ultrasound technician witnessed
[03:21:49.640 --> 03:21:52.120]  an abortion. He was called and he didn't know it was going to be an abortion.
[03:21:52.520 --> 03:21:56.360]  And so he talks about what he saw, the baby being ripped apart,
[03:21:56.800 --> 03:22:00.440]  and they depict it in a cartoon fashion.
[03:22:00.920 --> 03:22:03.120]  And you could go with something like that.
[03:22:03.720 --> 03:22:08.040]  But you could also take the positive and show how, you know,
[03:22:08.040 --> 03:22:11.960]  with 4D ultrasound, you could show how the babies are human beings,
[03:22:12.240 --> 03:22:13.920]  but they don't do any of that stuff.
[03:22:14.080 --> 03:22:16.880]  They didn't use the opportunity to show any of that stuff.
[03:22:16.880 --> 03:22:20.440]  You could even go for the shock treatment and could show what the babies look
[03:22:20.440 --> 03:22:22.880]  like when they're ripped to pieces and removed from the mother.
[03:22:22.880 --> 03:22:25.280]  And they assemble them to make sure they got all the pieces out.
[03:22:25.880 --> 03:22:30.440]  That would be allowed and has been done by some candidates who ran for office.
[03:22:30.440 --> 03:22:32.200]  They can't stop that. But no,
[03:22:32.240 --> 03:22:35.800]  none of the Republicans would actually show what the murder process is.
[03:22:36.040 --> 03:22:37.520]  They wouldn't show the results of it.
[03:22:37.640 --> 03:22:40.520]  They wouldn't even go positive and show what life is.
[03:22:40.520 --> 03:22:43.840]  They just ran from the issue and it was amazing to see.
[03:22:44.640 --> 03:22:47.600]  Rather than coming out swinging, they cower. That's right. And yeah,
[03:22:47.600 --> 03:22:50.280]  you've seen it times. And that is a good means too.
[03:22:50.280 --> 03:22:54.680]  The one you mentioned about someone running for office at the federal level,
[03:22:55.160 --> 03:22:57.880]  they can show the pre-born,
[03:22:58.080 --> 03:23:01.800]  both those developing in the womb and those who've been murdered by the
[03:23:01.800 --> 03:23:06.360]  abortionist. Something we did back in 2002,
[03:23:06.840 --> 03:23:10.160]  we had a number of people in our, you know, group,
[03:23:11.000 --> 03:23:15.440]  run for federal office because then you can't be censored.
[03:23:15.560 --> 03:23:20.040]  And they were able to show actual footage of what the pre-born looked like
[03:23:20.320 --> 03:23:23.360]  after they've been in the hands of the abortionist, which of course,
[03:23:23.360 --> 03:23:25.160]  there are no pretty pictures of murder.
[03:23:25.800 --> 03:23:28.880]  And so people would see it for the awful thing that it is.
[03:23:29.960 --> 03:23:33.880]  And it'd have a huge impact on them because most people have been taught abortion
[03:23:33.880 --> 03:23:38.600]  is just the removal of some tissue and cells. And it's very, you know,
[03:23:39.400 --> 03:23:42.280]  discreet and clinical.
[03:23:43.040 --> 03:23:46.240]  When they see the actual child butchered,
[03:23:46.760 --> 03:23:51.040]  it has a visceral impact upon their, their minds and their thinking.
[03:23:51.120 --> 03:23:54.520]  So I think it's very good to show those photographs.
[03:23:54.840 --> 03:23:59.520]  I'm always reminded too of the story out of judges where the
[03:23:59.520 --> 03:24:02.040]  guy's concubine is, you know,
[03:24:02.760 --> 03:24:06.560]  mistreated by a pack of sodomites all night long and she ends up dying.
[03:24:07.120 --> 03:24:12.120]  And so he ends up cutting her body into pieces and sends them out
[03:24:12.120 --> 03:24:17.040]  to the 12 tribes of Israel. So they didn't just see pictures of the atrocity.
[03:24:17.960 --> 03:24:21.640]  They had the actual body part, parts sitting in front of them.
[03:24:22.480 --> 03:24:26.440]  And what was the response of the men of Israel?
[03:24:27.360 --> 03:24:32.280]  400,000 of them rallied with arms and said,
[03:24:32.320 --> 03:24:34.720]  who's responsible for this?
[03:24:35.240 --> 03:24:38.760]  That's the godly response. What you get from most Christians today,
[03:24:38.760 --> 03:24:42.680]  if you show the photographs of the murder preborn is, Oh, I'm offended.
[03:24:42.840 --> 03:24:46.760]  Yes. I'm offended. How dare you? How dare you show that to me? Yeah.
[03:24:47.320 --> 03:24:50.680]  Yeah, it is something. Of course we are. That's right. Yeah. We,
[03:24:50.680 --> 03:24:55.160]  we know about the spirit of life that is in human beings,
[03:24:55.160 --> 03:24:59.120]  even in animals. That's why, you know, you, you don't,
[03:24:59.520 --> 03:25:03.320]  it doesn't upset you necessarily to see a plant that is broken and laying on the
[03:25:03.320 --> 03:25:06.880]  ground. But you see an animal even that has been butchered.
[03:25:07.640 --> 03:25:12.440]  That ought to, that has a visceral effect on people and for justifiable reason.
[03:25:12.600 --> 03:25:14.680]  And yet we've turned the other direction.
[03:25:14.680 --> 03:25:16.960]  We looked away from this for so long and we told people,
[03:25:16.960 --> 03:25:20.800]  don't show us what this is. And, and that's the key thing.
[03:25:20.800 --> 03:25:23.560]  People aren't doing anything. Now you're in, you're in Minnesota. Is that right?
[03:25:24.040 --> 03:25:28.320]  Or no Wisconsin, Wisconsin. Okay. I was going to say right in the middle.
[03:25:28.800 --> 03:25:31.040]  I was thinking for some reason that you're in Minnesota and it's like,
[03:25:31.040 --> 03:25:35.080]  you're in Tim Waltz land. That's a really tough place,
[03:25:35.080 --> 03:25:38.400]  but at least you're not there. That's good. That's good. And you're in Wisconsin.
[03:25:39.000 --> 03:25:43.760]  So what is the situation there in terms of after Roe v.
[03:25:43.760 --> 03:25:45.200]  Wade has been overturned with Dobbs,
[03:25:45.200 --> 03:25:48.720]  what's the situation there with abortion in your state of Wisconsin?
[03:25:49.640 --> 03:25:54.560]  Yeah, abortion. There were no murders here for 14 months because
[03:25:54.560 --> 03:25:58.760]  our we had a law from 1848. I believe it was
[03:25:59.640 --> 03:26:04.720]  um, criminalizing any abortion. There was nothing at all.
[03:26:04.720 --> 03:26:08.200]  All the death camps closed down. And then, um,
[03:26:08.440 --> 03:26:12.360]  Planned Parenthood decided to, you know, push the envelope.
[03:26:12.960 --> 03:26:16.560]  And we're just gonna act like the law doesn't exist.
[03:26:16.560 --> 03:26:19.000]  We're going to open up and we're going to start murdering babies. Well,
[03:26:19.000 --> 03:26:22.760]  of course we were out there the first day and the police made it clear that
[03:26:22.760 --> 03:26:25.440]  we're going to jail, not them. And they said,
[03:26:25.760 --> 03:26:29.240]  they even had the police officers tell us there was a meeting with all of us
[03:26:29.240 --> 03:26:32.760]  this morning that we're not upholding 9 40 04.
[03:26:32.760 --> 03:26:37.080]  That's our state statute from all the way back in the 1940s. Um,
[03:26:37.080 --> 03:26:41.760]  we're not upholding that law. So if any of those pro lifers,
[03:26:42.160 --> 03:26:42.440]  you know,
[03:26:42.440 --> 03:26:46.880]  try to intervene to protect the preborn in a real tangible
[03:26:47.240 --> 03:26:49.440]  sense of blocking the door or something,
[03:26:50.400 --> 03:26:53.840]  they go to jail and you protect the abortionist.
[03:26:54.360 --> 03:26:59.360]  Think of that, David. And we didn't have one magistrate
[03:27:00.520 --> 03:27:05.280]  anywhere in our state who could do something, actually do something.
[03:27:05.800 --> 03:27:09.200]  We had one in Madison area,
[03:27:09.640 --> 03:27:13.200]  because the death camps are here in Milwaukee and in Madison, um,
[03:27:13.200 --> 03:27:17.800]  we had a county official call upon the police chief and the
[03:27:17.800 --> 03:27:21.720]  sheriff to arrest the abortionist under 9 40 04,
[03:27:21.760 --> 03:27:25.400]  cause he has no power or authority to make that happen,
[03:27:25.760 --> 03:27:29.720]  but at least he wrote to them and, um,
[03:27:30.040 --> 03:27:34.000]  admonish them to do their duty and uphold the laws of Wisconsin.
[03:27:34.280 --> 03:27:38.960]  So since then, uh, the other death camps have opened up. Um,
[03:27:39.000 --> 03:27:41.400]  once they saw Planned Parenthood was getting away with it.
[03:27:42.120 --> 03:27:45.880]  And right now there's a, um, a case before our Supreme court,
[03:27:45.880 --> 03:27:49.880]  which still hasn't been decided. It's been going on for well over a year now,
[03:27:50.880 --> 03:27:56.040]  in order to, um, uh, got our, um,
[03:27:56.080 --> 03:28:00.600]  statute 9 40 04 and through the judiciary, of course,
[03:28:01.000 --> 03:28:05.400]  and, um, and make it so like there is no law against abortion,
[03:28:05.440 --> 03:28:10.240]  even on the books. That's where we're at right now. Last year, a year ago,
[03:28:10.280 --> 03:28:13.720]  this, at this very time, I testified at a public hearing brought by the
[03:28:13.720 --> 03:28:14.560]  Republicans.
[03:28:15.040 --> 03:28:18.640]  They wanted abortion to be outlawed from 15 or pardon me,
[03:28:18.680 --> 03:28:22.200]  14 weeks forward from there. In other words,
[03:28:22.360 --> 03:28:25.120]  95% of the murders have already taken place.
[03:28:25.840 --> 03:28:30.400]  And there were such scoundrels about it, David, that they didn't, um,
[03:28:30.440 --> 03:28:34.400]  just do it themselves because they could have did it in the assembly and the
[03:28:34.400 --> 03:28:35.960]  Senate. Cause they have the majority.
[03:28:36.520 --> 03:28:41.520]  They ran it as a bill that would then pass so that the people could vote on it
[03:28:42.040 --> 03:28:43.280]  in the state. And I like,
[03:28:43.280 --> 03:28:48.000]  let's wash our hands of this and throw the preborn to the mob.
[03:28:48.400 --> 03:28:52.720]  You know, and have mob rule because in a Republic law matters,
[03:28:53.200 --> 03:28:55.480]  and including God's law, um,
[03:28:55.520 --> 03:28:58.960]  it's been that way in Western civilization for nearly 2000 years.
[03:28:59.840 --> 03:29:04.840]  And, um, what they're doing is dismantling a Republican form of government and
[03:29:06.760 --> 03:29:11.760]  creating mob rule, a raw democracy where the mob decides you get to live,
[03:29:12.360 --> 03:29:14.960]  you, you're going to die. It's wicked.
[03:29:15.240 --> 03:29:17.880]  And they are cowards. I mean, they, at the federal level,
[03:29:17.880 --> 03:29:19.760]  typically they kick everything over to the bureaucracy.
[03:29:19.760 --> 03:29:21.840]  They don't want to do their job. So the state level,
[03:29:21.840 --> 03:29:25.520]  they kick it over to the, to the mob for a referendum. That's, that's horrible.
[03:29:26.360 --> 03:29:29.000]  Um, and of course that they don't like the law. They just ignore the law.
[03:29:29.320 --> 03:29:32.360]  We've got less than a minute. Matt, tell us again, um,
[03:29:32.760 --> 03:29:36.520]  what you got there in terms of people go to get, um, uh,
[03:29:36.560 --> 03:29:38.040]  the book, the lesser magistrate.
[03:29:38.040 --> 03:29:42.360]  You got a special thing for them if they go to defytyrants.com. And of course,
[03:29:42.360 --> 03:29:46.080]  that the FBI whistleblower that was, that we talked about earlier,
[03:29:46.080 --> 03:29:48.600]  you've got that video there. Anything else you want to tell us about?
[03:29:50.040 --> 03:29:54.680]  Oh no, that was pretty good. Um, if you do get the book at defytyrants.com, um,
[03:29:54.700 --> 03:29:58.160]  we throw in a CD. I know that's archaic, um,
[03:29:58.200 --> 03:30:01.680]  but I'm old school and I have to have something physical. So it's like,
[03:30:02.400 --> 03:30:07.400]  we do send it, we have a CD of a sermon I gave to the Montana legislature.
[03:30:08.000 --> 03:30:10.600]  We just throw that in there for free. Um,
[03:30:10.680 --> 03:30:13.240]  I gave that sermon back in 2015.
[03:30:13.600 --> 03:30:18.400]  We're the only state that still does election sermons.
[03:30:18.720 --> 03:30:22.120]  And they had me come in and speak on the doctrine of the lesser magistrate.
[03:30:22.120 --> 03:30:25.240]  It's a powerful sermon. It's a blessing to you.
[03:30:25.560 --> 03:30:26.960]  It's a good one to give to your churchmen.
[03:30:26.960 --> 03:30:29.520]  It's a good one to give to your magistrates in your area.
[03:30:30.040 --> 03:30:33.080]  We also will give you some stickers and some literature, uh,
[03:30:33.160 --> 03:30:35.760]  on top of the book also. So yeah.
[03:30:35.840 --> 03:30:38.560]  Your book does change minds. It absolutely does.
[03:30:38.600 --> 03:30:42.200]  And so thank you so much for what you've done. Uh, it's an excellent book, folks.
[03:30:42.200 --> 03:30:45.080]  It's a fast read. It is packed with information. Uh,
[03:30:45.100 --> 03:30:47.720]  it's not going to overwhelm me. It's not like a war and peace or anything.
[03:30:47.720 --> 03:30:49.880]  It's a small book and it's all there.
[03:30:49.880 --> 03:30:52.720]  And he lays it out in a very concise, rapid way.
[03:30:52.720 --> 03:30:57.560]  Thank you so much, Matt, for what you do. Uh, and again, defytyrants.com.
[03:30:57.560 --> 03:31:00.480]  It's where you can find the book on the lesser magistrate,
[03:31:00.560 --> 03:31:04.240]  an important, vital, uh, understanding of what that's about.
[03:31:04.400 --> 03:31:06.200]  Thank you so much, Matt. Appreciate it. Have a good day.
[03:31:06.240 --> 03:31:07.360]  Thank you. God bless you, David.
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[03:31:22.640 --> 03:31:25.200]  They created Common Core to dumb down our children.
[03:31:25.680 --> 03:31:28.600]  They created Common Pass to track and control us.
[03:31:28.840 --> 03:31:33.840]  Their commons project to make sure the commoners own nothing and the communist
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[03:31:38.920 --> 03:31:40.400]  Unsophisticated. Ordinary.
[03:31:41.440 --> 03:31:45.840]  But each of us has worth and dignity created in the image of God.
[03:31:48.080 --> 03:31:51.760]  That is what we have in common. That is what they want to take away.
[03:31:52.600 --> 03:31:56.920]  Their most powerful weapons are isolation, deception, intimidation.
[03:31:57.680 --> 03:32:02.360]  They desire to know everything about us while they hide everything from us.
[03:32:03.200 --> 03:32:06.880]  It's time to turn that around and expose what they want to hide.
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