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[01:08.000 --> 01:12.400]  Mentioned yesterday briefly the Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens. It was kind of interesting
[01:12.960 --> 01:22.480]  the history of this, and there was an interview on World Magazine, W-N-G dot org. They talked to
[01:22.480 --> 01:29.600]  Bruce Forbes. He's a holiday historian and an author of Christmas, a Candid History.
[01:30.560 --> 01:34.640]  He said, you know, everybody thinks, well, this is the way they celebrated Christmas
[01:35.360 --> 01:41.600]  back in Victorian England. He said, actually, it wasn't a portrait of Victorian Christmas at the
[01:41.600 --> 01:52.480]  time. Actually, Dickens actually made Christmas popular when it was not popular at the time.
[01:53.200 --> 01:59.040]  He points out, going back to the 1600s, English Puritans tried to stamp out Christmas celebrations
[01:59.760 --> 02:05.440]  based on two main objections. Number one, they said, well, it's not an early Christianity,
[02:05.440 --> 02:10.400]  so we're not called to do it. Number two, is there too much wild partying going on?
[02:11.680 --> 02:18.640]  Again, the way I look at it is, you know, some people look at one day as holier than another.
[02:18.640 --> 02:25.360]  Other people see every day as alike. Let everybody follow their conscience. And
[02:25.360 --> 02:29.520]  it depends on how you celebrate it. Is it going to be wild partying? Is it going to be
[02:29.520 --> 02:32.560]  rampant materialism? Or is it going to be an opportunity to reflect
[02:33.280 --> 02:39.760]  on the incarnation of Christ and his purpose? And so Parliament even went so far as to ban
[02:39.760 --> 02:45.600]  Christmas in 1647. The historian Forbes said, at some points, they would send
[02:45.600 --> 02:51.200]  town criers around on Christmas Eve, crying, no Christmas, no Christmas.
[02:52.800 --> 02:59.280]  What would Megyn Kelly say? And Bill O'Reilly, these are the people he used to always talk about
[02:59.280 --> 03:05.280]  that were on Christmas every year. Forbes said, for a century or more, Christmas remained diminished.
[03:06.160 --> 03:12.880]  A survey of stories, as a matter of fact, from the London Times between 1790 and 1836 shows just how
[03:12.880 --> 03:17.680]  much Christmas had fallen out of favor. In 20 of those years, nothing at all is said about
[03:17.680 --> 03:23.600]  Christmas. And in the other 25, it's mentioned only briefly in the kind of sense of, well,
[03:23.600 --> 03:29.360]  that's something that people used to do a long time ago. Dickens wrote A Christmas Carol in
[03:29.360 --> 03:34.800]  just six weeks, and he published it a few days before Christmas on December the 19th, 1843.
[03:34.800 --> 03:38.960]  He was up against a deadline and just barely making it like we did with this book and the
[03:38.960 --> 03:45.920]  bookmark, you know? Anyway, the public reaction was instant. They loved it. It sold out. They printed
[03:45.920 --> 03:50.560]  it over and over, reprints over and over again in the following years, and it got very big in America
[03:50.560 --> 03:58.000]  as well. In 1868, Dickens sailed to the U.S. to perform dramatic readings of his books, including
[03:58.000 --> 04:03.840]  A Christmas Carol. I used to watch Bonanza when I was a kid. I remember they had an episode of
[04:03.840 --> 04:09.360]  Charles Dickens in America, and he went to the ranch, you know? He got to meet the cartwrights,
[04:09.360 --> 04:15.920]  I guess, because he got a lot of money. Anyway, Forbes said he was like a rock star. He had 150
[04:15.920 --> 04:22.160]  people waiting overnight to get tickets in Boston, and the tickets all sold out. So he said,
[04:22.160 --> 04:28.080]  A Christmas Carol expressed Dickens' deep concern for the poor. And see, this is why, you know,
[04:28.080 --> 04:35.040]  when my friend who was from the Libertarian Party, he got so upset about Dickens because
[04:35.600 --> 04:42.480]  he saw this as the wedge that was used to enact socialism, right? Well, in reality,
[04:42.480 --> 04:47.280]  you know, we need, we understand that they use children, as I said before, they're always,
[04:47.280 --> 04:52.800]  children are always, and the welfare of children is always the poster child for whatever it is
[04:52.800 --> 04:57.120]  that they want to do, whether it's setting up a digital ID on the internet or whatever it is.
[04:57.920 --> 05:02.160]  And yet we do need to be concerned about the welfare of children. It's just that we don't
[05:02.160 --> 05:07.280]  need to do it through government. And we do need to be concerned about the poor, and yet we shouldn't
[05:07.280 --> 05:13.040]  do it through government. And even though he wasn't advocating helping the people out through
[05:13.040 --> 05:18.000]  government, he even points out, you know, that one point he said, well, don't we have
[05:19.040 --> 05:24.000]  poor houses and institutions like that? And you look at how they had, the government had failed
[05:24.000 --> 05:30.640]  to help the poor in that. It really was an individual concern, and I think that was a key
[05:32.080 --> 05:37.040]  thrust of A Christmas Carol. So the story of Ebenezer Scrooge's transformation
[05:37.680 --> 05:41.840]  grabbed a hold of the public mind and added a new layer of meaning to the holiday,
[05:42.560 --> 05:48.160]  one which laid the groundwork for widespread Christmas celebrations, even among those who
[05:48.160 --> 05:53.360]  don't believe Christ came as a baby in a manger. And that's the other thing about it. You know,
[05:53.360 --> 05:59.760]  we need to understand the, you know, when you look at Dickens' Christmas Carol, that was one
[05:59.760 --> 06:04.160]  thing that always kind of bothered me. You know, it's kind of like the beginning of It's a Wonderful
[06:04.160 --> 06:11.200]  Life and the phony angel narrative that's there. And, you know, how we're going to, you know,
[06:11.760 --> 06:21.200]  manipulate this guy's life in order to do various things. Still, helping the poor is not something
[06:21.200 --> 06:26.480]  that we should despise. Nevertheless, it's not, as Dickens puts it out there, it's not that good
[06:26.480 --> 06:32.640]  works are going to win us the favor of God. There are rewards for good works in both this life and
[06:32.640 --> 06:37.920]  the next life, but you're going to make sure that you make the next life, and the good works are
[06:37.920 --> 06:43.680]  not going to give you eternal life. That's what Christ came for, and that's the message, I think,
[06:43.680 --> 06:48.800]  should be of Christmas. As Forbes said, generosity becomes the theme that people can embrace,
[06:49.440 --> 06:54.720]  whether they're Christian or not, or whether they're religious or not. Generosity is a beautiful
[06:54.720 --> 07:00.640]  thing, and it's, I think, Dickens' Christmas Carol's greatest contribution. It shifts what
[07:00.640 --> 07:12.800]  Christmas becomes, and he made it kind of a secular orientation. You know, Jesus said,
[07:12.800 --> 07:19.920]  I am the way, and no one comes to the Father but my me, right? It's a very narrow way.
[07:19.920 --> 07:25.840]  It's only one person wide. You come through or by Christ, or you don't come at all to eternal life,
[07:26.720 --> 07:33.840]  and that is the message of Christmas, really. You know, some will say that, you know, we've seen
[07:33.840 --> 07:39.520]  Bloomberg say many times, they say, well, if there is a heaven, I'm going straight in because of all
[07:39.520 --> 07:45.200]  the good things that I've done. So everybody can come up with their own set of things that they
[07:45.200 --> 07:52.800]  think earned them salvation. God will not be impressed. You know, when we disobey him, we have
[07:52.800 --> 07:59.360]  rebelled against him, and that's why we don't realize how serious that is, and we don't realize
[07:59.360 --> 08:06.320]  why we need Christ. But, you know, helping the poor, having health care for Tiny Tim, those are
[08:06.320 --> 08:11.840]  all great things. But, you know, the socialists have made those things that the government does,
[08:13.040 --> 08:17.680]  and so today, you know, if they would come around, Ebenezer Scrooge would say, well,
[08:17.680 --> 08:21.920]  don't we have welfare programs for those things? I don't need to help anybody, and he would miss
[08:22.720 --> 08:27.760]  the personal reward of helping someone like that. You know, these are all good things,
[08:28.960 --> 08:34.560]  but still the only way to have that life is through the Lord Jesus Christ. You know,
[08:34.560 --> 08:39.120]  Dickens' story also thought about the fact that he has these three ghosts in it, right, that come
[08:39.120 --> 08:47.440]  back, and they're the ones that, you know, reason with Scrooge and convince him. And I always thought,
[08:47.440 --> 08:55.040]  you know, that's really very much like a twisted version of the story that Jesus gave about Lazarus
[08:55.040 --> 09:01.760]  and the rich man in Luke 16. And I don't think that's a parable. I think that's a real story.
[09:01.760 --> 09:07.680]  He uses real names, even references Abraham. He doesn't mention the name of the rich man
[09:09.360 --> 09:13.040]  because of the context of the story. You realize why he doesn't mention that.
[09:13.920 --> 09:21.040]  But, you know, we could just call him Scrooge, for example, right, or say Marley. It'd be Marley,
[09:21.040 --> 09:28.560]  not Scrooge, because the rich man, as he is in torment, he begs Abraham. He said,
[09:28.560 --> 09:33.440]  let me go back and warn my family about this. You know, I don't want my brothers to make the
[09:33.440 --> 09:40.160]  same mistakes that I have made. And kind of like Marley, right, except what does Abraham say to him?
[09:40.880 --> 09:44.240]  He said, well, they have the law and the prophets, and if they won't listen to them,
[09:44.800 --> 09:47.920]  they won't listen to somebody that comes back from the dead. You know,
[09:47.920 --> 09:54.960]  I think about that every time I watch the show. So what would you tell them, right? What would
[09:54.960 --> 09:58.960]  you tell them about that? And what would they learn from the law and the prophets? Well,
[09:58.960 --> 10:03.920]  when Jesus was confronted with the religious leaders, he said, you search the scriptures,
[10:03.920 --> 10:08.480]  that is the law and the prophets, because you think in them you will find eternal life,
[10:08.480 --> 10:15.520]  but they testify of me. And they do. And that is the message of Christmas as well.
[10:16.240 --> 10:22.000]  You know, the prophecies and the whole narrative of the Old Testament all points to Christ.
[10:22.000 --> 10:27.920]  It is not about the end of the world. It is not about Zionism. It is not about any of that stuff.
[10:27.920 --> 10:32.640]  And what happens to Israel? What happens at the end of the world? No. That is such a misreading
[10:33.280 --> 10:40.320]  of revelation. People will often call it revelations. And I think it is because they
[10:40.320 --> 10:45.440]  think of it as revelations about the end of the world. But the actual title is The Revelation
[10:46.160 --> 10:53.920]  of Jesus Christ. That is what the Bible is from start to finish. And so it testifies of him.
[10:54.800 --> 11:02.880]  And again, the law and the prophets testify. So, you know, Marley is not going to go back and tell
[11:02.880 --> 11:07.600]  Scrooge this. Scrooge has got the law and the prophets. And if he does not want to
[11:08.160 --> 11:13.280]  see what they have to say about Christ, then, you know, that is the real message
[11:14.080 --> 11:27.120]  of Christmas Charlie Brown. So that is the reason that we celebrate it.
[11:27.120 --> 11:34.880]  Yeah. It is always any chance you have to remember what Christ has done for you.
[11:34.880 --> 11:40.400]  That is right. And to tell people. You know, I mean, what is the end of the Christmas story?
[11:40.400 --> 11:44.880]  And nobody ever kept Christmas like Ebenezer Scrooge kept Christmas. So it is like,
[11:44.880 --> 11:50.400]  is that it? Is that the moral of the story? It kind of has an anticlimactic ending here,
[11:50.400 --> 11:55.120]  right? He still dies at some point in time. But they remembered him fondly because he was
[11:55.120 --> 12:00.640]  very generous with everybody. Well, no one put up more wreaths than Ebenezer. I hope that
[12:01.760 --> 12:06.880]  you enjoy the reward of that. And that is a rewarding thing, but that is not the ultimate
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[13:46.000 --> 14:06.800]  Welcome back and joining us now is Zoe Smith. She has set up a website, thrillkillmedicalcult.com.
[14:07.440 --> 14:15.840]  You can also find her on Substack. The name of the Substack is Zoe. That's Z-O-W-E.substack.com.
[14:16.960 --> 14:22.160]  We want to talk to her about being a whistleblower and the things that she saw during the pandemic
[14:22.160 --> 14:28.320]  lockdown. Zoe worked as a medical coder for over a decade. Tell us a little bit about that. What
[14:28.320 --> 14:33.200]  was that involved with? Is that for insurance purposes, identifying the procedures and putting
[14:33.200 --> 14:38.960]  the right code on it? Yeah. Hi, thanks for inviting me. Thanks for being here. Yeah,
[14:38.960 --> 14:43.280]  so a medical coder, a lot of people don't even know that it exists because you don't really see
[14:43.280 --> 14:50.080]  it as a patient, but everything that happens to you in a hospital, clinic, x-ray, lab, whatever,
[14:50.080 --> 14:55.840]  has to have a diagnosis and procedure assigned and that's how your doctor gets paid. So the coder
[14:55.840 --> 15:00.080]  is the one who reviews that documentation, assigns the right diagnosis code, assigns the
[15:00.080 --> 15:05.760]  right procedure code. And that's what gets put on the bill and that your insurance or Medicare uses
[15:05.760 --> 15:11.520]  to pay your doctor or the lab or the hospital for their services. So it was really boring until it
[15:11.520 --> 15:17.200]  happened. Then you had a bird's eye view of what was going on. I was just telling you off air. The
[15:17.200 --> 15:24.000]  aha moment for me was the AHA, the American Hospital Association and I believe it was August
[15:24.000 --> 15:30.320]  of 2020. I've talked about this many times. They got very upset because they said to CMS,
[15:30.320 --> 15:36.240]  who was paying them, they said, you told us that we didn't have to have a PCR documentation for this.
[15:36.240 --> 15:39.680]  They said that you didn't have enough of them and you said they didn't work and you said we
[15:39.680 --> 15:45.040]  would just point at somebody to do a clinical diagnosis and you would give us a 20% bonus
[15:45.040 --> 15:49.840]  on everything that we did to the people as well as the upfront cash bonus of $13,000.
[15:50.640 --> 15:55.680]  And now you want to have this new requirement. That's not fair. So they were complaining
[15:55.680 --> 16:00.880]  because they weren't getting paid and it kind of exposed the whole thing except nobody would cover
[16:00.880 --> 16:06.320]  that. It was amazing to me how there was dead silence everywhere about that. I mean you
[16:06.320 --> 16:13.520]  incentivize people to that degree and I would always say to people, look, the money is the
[16:13.520 --> 16:19.040]  issue. The declaration of the emergency by Trump unleashed the money and then they put out these
[16:19.040 --> 16:25.200]  rules through CMS and paid these people to kill is really what was happening.
[16:25.200 --> 16:25.840]  Absolutely.
[16:25.840 --> 16:27.280]  And that's what you saw as well, right?
[16:28.080 --> 16:33.840]  Yeah. I don't know if you're familiar with the vaxed bus, but Children's Health Defense,
[16:33.840 --> 16:38.080]  they sent out a third one. So they've done a part one, part two, and now part three.
[16:38.640 --> 16:44.560]  The part three is called authorized to kill for that reason because the CARES Act really did,
[16:44.560 --> 16:51.360]  it incentivized a behavior change in hospitals and with physicians and how they were able to
[16:51.360 --> 16:56.880]  practice medicine. It set everything on its head and it incentivized everything. What you're talking
[16:56.880 --> 17:03.200]  about, what the AHA said about you didn't even need a PCR test result to get that COVID diagnosis
[17:03.200 --> 17:08.160]  is absolutely correct. And that was one of the things that I noticed in the Pandora's box of
[17:08.160 --> 17:16.400]  things that changed right when they declared two weeks to flatten the curve in March of 2020.
[17:18.480 --> 17:24.400]  They changed all the coding rules as well. So April 1st, 2020 is when the COVID-19 diagnosis
[17:24.400 --> 17:30.880]  went into effect and we were actually told to commit fraud before that time because we didn't
[17:30.880 --> 17:36.320]  have a code to reflect COVID-19 and we needed to track that so much. And of course, everyone had
[17:36.320 --> 17:42.720]  to get the PCR test in order to get the diagnosis. But then there was this official coding guideline,
[17:42.720 --> 17:49.200]  which is what we use as coders. It's like our Bible. It tells us what's correct, what's fraud,
[17:49.200 --> 17:54.720]  and it's essentially, it lays out the rules. And in those rules, there's a part that says,
[17:55.440 --> 17:59.120]  in order to be diagnosed with COVID-19, all your physician needs to do
[17:59.760 --> 18:05.200]  is write down in their medical opinion that they think that you have COVID-19.
[18:05.200 --> 18:09.760]  They didn't need to do an exam. They didn't need to have a PCR test result. And it says
[18:09.760 --> 18:14.960]  right in that official guideline, this is an exception to section two H inpatient coding
[18:14.960 --> 18:20.640]  guidelines, which says for every other diagnosis, they have to do an exam and they have to have
[18:21.280 --> 18:27.920]  some sort of clinical documentation, usually some sort of lab work or diagnostics to prove
[18:27.920 --> 18:35.200]  their working diagnosis. So COVID was an exception for that. And that was one of the really big red
[18:35.200 --> 18:41.280]  flags that came up for me. And of course, I noticed in my position, not only is everyone
[18:41.280 --> 18:47.600]  getting this PCR test when we come in, they're not all sick, but then they get this COVID-19 diagnosis.
[18:48.320 --> 18:53.200]  And the part that most people that still a lot of people aren't familiar with is
[18:53.200 --> 18:56.800]  when they did the two weeks to flatten the curve and they locked down everybody,
[18:56.800 --> 19:03.280]  they actually kicked people out of the ICU early and they shut down other wings of the hospital.
[19:04.000 --> 19:09.920]  They went down to a skeleton crew. So they consolidated wings within the hospital. So the
[19:09.920 --> 19:17.440]  ER and ICU stayed open, but the rest of the hospital was shut down. We were getting furloughed
[19:17.520 --> 19:24.800]  and laid off and hiring freezes and no raises, no bonuses during the time when the media was saying
[19:24.800 --> 19:29.760]  these healthcare heroes are showing up to fight the onslaught of COVID-19 patients.
[19:29.760 --> 19:34.560]  What was the onslaught of false positive tests, but it wasn't an onslaught of a whole bunch of
[19:34.560 --> 19:39.440]  patients. We were getting furloughed. So the hospital really, really needed that money because
[19:39.440 --> 19:46.320]  they were bankrupted right before those incentives came out. So they really needed those incentives.
[19:46.960 --> 19:53.120]  So they were absolutely excited to label someone as COVID-19 and get that 20% diagnosis and then
[19:53.120 --> 19:58.560]  hook them up to the ventilator, which they got another bonus for. And then the Randesa beer,
[19:58.560 --> 20:04.400]  which they were giving out like candy during this entire time. The bonus really didn't go
[20:04.400 --> 20:09.600]  into effect until August of 2020, but they were using it from about April all the way through.
[20:09.600 --> 20:14.320]  And I noticed how the protocols were killing people and, and doctors would just say,
[20:14.320 --> 20:18.560]  oh, this is a progression of COVID-19. And to this day, a lot of people will say,
[20:20.000 --> 20:24.960]  oh, I had a family member that died of COVID. They went to the hospital because they had COVID
[20:24.960 --> 20:29.680]  and they died of COVID. But I asked them, did they really die of COVID or did they die of the
[20:29.680 --> 20:34.320]  protocol? Were they not that sick until they got there? And then, then they circled the drain
[20:34.320 --> 20:41.440]  because in my experience, most of the patients within sometimes a few days to sometimes it took
[20:41.440 --> 20:48.000]  up to a month, but those protocols were killing people, shutting down their organs. And then,
[20:48.000 --> 20:54.080]  and then they would die. And that wasn't normal to have that happen to a pneumonia patient.
[20:54.080 --> 20:59.600]  Normally they'd be there three days. We pump them full of antibiotics, which we weren't using for
[20:59.600 --> 21:06.000]  COVID-19. And then they would go home. So this was totally backwards. And then I started to notice
[21:06.000 --> 21:11.520]  all the incentives because even as a coder, they have all these checks and balances in the
[21:11.520 --> 21:16.480]  electronic medical record system and it counts against you if you miss something. So like, if I
[21:16.480 --> 21:21.760]  missed someone for COVID-19, I would get a notice about it. Like, oh, this is going to count against
[21:21.760 --> 21:26.320]  your score and might not get a raise this year because you weren't a good coder. And they were
[21:26.320 --> 21:32.800]  watching that for remdesivir because the bonuses were so much on the bill. Every single remdesivir
[21:33.600 --> 21:40.400]  shot infusion was $4,000. Give or take a little bit throughout the country because it's weighted
[21:40.400 --> 21:45.680]  based on like where you live. So it'd be more expensive in New York or California. But around
[21:45.680 --> 21:53.360]  $4,000 per dose is how much they were getting. Yeah. The ventilators. I interviewed a woman who
[21:53.360 --> 21:57.280]  was a nurse. She wrote a book called Pandemic Nurse and she was in Florida and she said,
[21:57.280 --> 22:01.440]  I wasn't seeing, you know, the kind of narrative that they were talking about with the pandemic
[22:01.440 --> 22:05.120]  and everybody was saying it was all happening up in New York. So she left and went to New York
[22:05.120 --> 22:08.800]  to help and sat around for a couple of days after she told them she was there before they brought
[22:08.800 --> 22:12.880]  her in. When they finally did bring her in, she's like, you know, what's going on? They're not busy
[22:12.880 --> 22:16.720]  either. When they brought her in, the physician walked around, showed the people on the ventilators
[22:16.720 --> 22:21.520]  and he said, you know, about 90% of these people are going to die. And she said it was horrible.
[22:21.520 --> 22:27.200]  They were just killing people. And of course, when you look at it, if you get a $13,000 bonus
[22:27.200 --> 22:31.200]  for pointing at somebody and saying they got COVID, they may not even be sick as you pointed
[22:31.200 --> 22:37.200]  out. Then if you put them on a ventilator, you get $39,000 already right there, you got $52,000
[22:38.240 --> 22:44.160]  for a machine that costs you $50,000. And then they will pay you 20% on the charges that you've
[22:44.160 --> 22:49.760]  got for them to use it until you kill them with that ventilator. And again, pulmonologists were
[22:49.760 --> 22:54.480]  looking at this and come back and said, this never made any sense. We never did it like this. You're
[22:54.480 --> 22:57.920]  pointing out they give people antibiotics and other things like that. So we would never put
[22:57.920 --> 23:03.360]  people on a ventilator, you know, for pneumonia or things like that. Exactly. All of it was so
[23:03.360 --> 23:10.720]  incredibly corrupt and counterintuitive. And they turned the hospitals into killing machines
[23:10.720 --> 23:14.800]  for money. And everybody was willing to do that. I mean, if you got somebody that's there,
[23:14.800 --> 23:22.160]  and even if it wasn't an economic emergency that had been created partially by the government,
[23:22.160 --> 23:25.760]  you know, if you were to tell somebody, you point to that person and say they've got
[23:25.760 --> 23:32.000]  this condition, I'll give you $13,000. We know how human nature works. And we know how the
[23:32.000 --> 23:36.640]  corporate hospitals work. I mean, the incentives to do that are going to be huge, just like the
[23:36.640 --> 23:42.080]  disincentives to report somebody when they've had a reaction to the vaccines are going to be
[23:42.080 --> 23:46.320]  huge as well. Were you still there when they started the vaccination program or had you left?
[23:46.320 --> 23:53.040]  Because you say that you left when they made the vaccine mandatory. Did you see it happening before
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[25:12.880 --> 25:17.760]  It wasn't a thing in the hospital. It was just regular flu. I even talked to people that were
[25:17.760 --> 25:23.280]  on the front lines, like ER doctors and nurses. And they said, some of them even said that they
[25:23.280 --> 25:28.720]  got it and it wasn't that big of a deal. So when they declared COVID, I was really suspicious. This
[25:28.720 --> 25:33.520]  is just going to be another vaccination campaign because they already had mandates for the flu
[25:33.520 --> 25:38.560]  shot for healthcare workers for like a decade before that. And I had been doing the exemption
[25:38.560 --> 25:44.160]  every year. And the reason I did that is because the first year that they made healthcare workers
[25:44.160 --> 25:49.760]  get the flu shot, everybody was getting the flu. And so that was the year that we came up with the,
[25:49.760 --> 25:53.920]  it was just a rumor within the university lab where I worked, but everybody was saying it,
[25:53.920 --> 25:58.480]  that you get the flu from the flu shot. So ever since then, I just didn't want to do it.
[25:58.480 --> 26:02.560]  So during that whole year of operation work speed, the only thing that's going to get us back to
[26:02.560 --> 26:08.640]  normal is this vaccine. I thought this, if the flu shot never worked, the chances that the COVID
[26:08.640 --> 26:14.880]  shot is going to work is slim to nil. And the amount of pressure for this one compared to
[26:15.440 --> 26:21.680]  the flu shot is astronomical. So there's something to it. So that made me actually not just look at
[26:21.680 --> 26:26.720]  the COVID shot, but look at all the other vaccines. And what I learned was they don't teach
[26:27.280 --> 26:33.040]  coders or doctors or nurses anything about vaccine side effects or adverse effects,
[26:33.040 --> 26:40.320]  despite the fact that they have codes to assign for vaccine effects. But I would see patients
[26:40.320 --> 26:45.600]  come in with like guillain beret before this and the doctors would try very hard not to relate it
[26:45.600 --> 26:51.280]  to a vaccine. And there would be codes in there like adverse effect of flu shot or adverse effect,
[26:51.280 --> 26:57.440]  whatever. And those are supposed to be like a safety signal code. Like one of the reasons why
[26:57.440 --> 27:03.680]  the ICD-10 system, which is owned by the WHO, by the way, so every member state that is part of the
[27:03.680 --> 27:09.440]  WHO has to report these codes and it's for statistical monitoring purposes. So this is how
[27:09.440 --> 27:16.880]  they monitor pandemics. This is how they monitor cancer, like how many cases of cancer there are
[27:16.880 --> 27:23.840]  throughout the world or heart problems or pneumonia cases. This is the system that they use.
[27:23.840 --> 27:28.240]  And it's also supposed to be used starting in clinical trials for devices and drugs
[27:29.120 --> 27:35.520]  to look for a safety signal. So I thought with this COVID-19 vaccine, there should be a code
[27:35.520 --> 27:42.000]  for adverse effect of this shot and it should be my job to assign it. So I did my due diligence and
[27:42.000 --> 27:47.360]  I looked into all the warnings and what could happen if people got the shot. And then I looked
[27:47.360 --> 27:51.200]  at what could happen if people got the other vaccines. And I started to realize that they
[27:51.200 --> 27:57.280]  had been burying all of the effects that people would get from vaccines and not assigning these
[27:57.280 --> 28:03.600]  adverse effect codes up until 2020. And then when the COVID-19 vaccine came out, there was no code
[28:03.600 --> 28:08.960]  to report it. So it should have been my job to collect that danger signal. And I even went on
[28:08.960 --> 28:15.040]  a podcast called Deborah Gets Red Pill. It was just a radio show in early 2021, right after I
[28:15.040 --> 28:22.640]  quit my job. And I said, the COVID-19 vaccine is more dangerous than all of the other vaccines
[28:22.640 --> 28:29.200]  combined. And that was with my, that was just an observation, but it was 10 years of medical
[28:29.200 --> 28:34.720]  coding experience. And then learning what I learned about vaccine side effects and all the
[28:34.720 --> 28:40.400]  cases that I saw of children in the ER constantly having eczema or rashes or even anaphylactic
[28:41.040 --> 28:45.600]  responses. And then I look at the record, they just got a vaccine, but the doctor's not connecting
[28:45.600 --> 28:52.320]  the two. So when COVID-19 came out, people were having strokes and acetylitis and blood clots,
[28:52.320 --> 28:57.120]  like I've never seen before. My own carditis, they were getting COVID-19 immediately after
[28:57.120 --> 29:01.600]  getting the shot, like the same day or the next day, and then being hospitalized. There
[29:01.600 --> 29:07.200]  are people with paralytic problems, seizure disorders, blood disorders where they couldn't
[29:07.200 --> 29:10.800]  even figure out what was going on because the patient was clotting and bleeding at the same
[29:10.800 --> 29:17.280]  time and they didn't even know how to treat it. Crazy stuff started happening just in the first
[29:17.280 --> 29:22.480]  four months of the vaccine rollout. So it wasn't even available to the rest of the public yet.
[29:23.040 --> 29:28.880]  But by summer of 2021 is when they started saying, you at home, like this is the hospital
[29:28.880 --> 29:34.640]  leadership. They would have videos that they would send to all staff all the time monitoring
[29:34.640 --> 29:39.520]  COVID. And they were really, really pushing us to get that shot. They were saying, we're not doing
[29:39.520 --> 29:45.040]  as good as the other hospitals who are getting incentivized for meeting their vaccination quota.
[29:45.040 --> 29:50.160]  And we weren't. So they were pointing to us, people who worked from home, who never saw patients,
[29:50.160 --> 29:55.040]  who never walked into a hospital. You guys are spreading it around society and we're going to
[29:55.040 --> 30:01.920]  have to fire you if you don't get your shots. So at that point I couldn't take it anymore.
[30:01.920 --> 30:08.000]  I knew that my job had been to get them money for murdering patients and I was having a crisis of
[30:08.000 --> 30:14.080]  conscience over that. And then before the vaccine went out, I decided I was going to be a spy at
[30:14.080 --> 30:20.400]  that point and just see if the vaccine really was as bad as old warnings said. And then it turned
[30:20.400 --> 30:26.240]  out to be far worse than I anticipated. And I didn't think that the chances would be very good
[30:26.240 --> 30:31.920]  that I would get an exemption because they changed the rules for getting an exemption.
[30:33.440 --> 30:38.880]  A lot of people got fired and I didn't want to work for them anymore. I don't want to continue
[30:38.880 --> 30:46.880]  helping them get money to murder people. Good for you. Yeah, you really did have a bird's eye view
[30:46.880 --> 30:52.400]  of this whole thing because you're seeing the diagnostic codes as well as the treatments that
[30:52.400 --> 31:00.720]  are there. And so you could get a good picture of what was actually coming on and seeing the trends
[31:00.720 --> 31:05.840]  that were there. That's very interesting, your perspective. I've got something and I apologize
[31:05.840 --> 31:09.840]  because we can't feed this to you so you can't hear this. I'll kind of talk about it and describe
[31:09.840 --> 31:18.080]  it, but I want the audience to hear what Lutnick, I call him Lucky Lutnick, what he said in terms
[31:18.080 --> 31:23.840]  about the money that can be made off of this kind of stuff. And he uses an example of the vaccines.
[31:24.880 --> 31:30.960]  The United States government, the most powerful, the greatest customer, buys stuff. We walk in,
[31:30.960 --> 31:37.600]  we're going to buy, here's an example I like to use, we're going to buy two billion COVID vaccines.
[31:38.560 --> 31:44.480]  When we buy it, Pfizer and Moderna stocks are going to triple. They're going to triple.
[31:44.480 --> 31:52.320]  So then we say everyone's going to have this vaccine. If I were, after Jared Kushner negotiated
[31:52.320 --> 31:56.640]  the best deal he could, if Howard Lutnick walked in the room, Howard Lutnick would say,
[31:56.640 --> 32:04.320]  what do you think, 20% warrants? 20% warrants? Right. Right. What? So we'd make $50 billion,
[32:04.640 --> 32:10.240]  off of who? Nobody. We didn't take from anybody. Okay, the shareholders of Pfizer,
[32:10.240 --> 32:15.200]  who we've just tripled them with our order. Now, how many of my customers?
[32:17.440 --> 32:23.440]  Yeah, Zoe, what he's saying, Zoe, he says, yeah, the U.S. government is the most powerful customer.
[32:23.440 --> 32:27.600]  So we're going to go in and we're going to buy two billion dollars worth of these vaccines from
[32:27.600 --> 32:31.680]  Pfizer and Moderna. We're going to force people to take them. So I'm looking at this and I'm saying,
[32:31.680 --> 32:35.360]  well, I'm going to get some 20% warrants. I want some action of that. I know what's going to happen
[32:35.360 --> 32:39.040]  with all this. And he says, you know, and who have we harmed with all this stuff? It's like
[32:39.040 --> 32:45.360]  the people who got the shot, obviously, but he doesn't even see that. He sees nothing but dollar
[32:45.360 --> 32:51.840]  signs. This is the guy, of course, that is now the commerce secretary for Trump. And he's the guy
[32:51.840 --> 32:57.200]  who's pushing through the stable coins and all the rest of the stuff. Makes you wonder what he is
[32:57.200 --> 33:01.760]  going to be doing to us with the stable coins and the resetting of the financial system.
[33:02.560 --> 33:08.000]  These are people who see nothing other than money and they don't care what they have to do
[33:08.560 --> 33:13.440]  to other people in order to make money. It truly is amazing, the greed and the system
[33:13.440 --> 33:19.920]  and the corruption. Right. It is so hard for me to wrap my brain around how many people
[33:20.480 --> 33:26.720]  they killed. It was a silent genocide that is still invisible, but there's no family
[33:27.760 --> 33:32.000]  that I've talked to in the last five years that hasn't been touched by it in some way.
[33:32.000 --> 33:38.320]  Either someone they know is suffering from cancer or some horrible chronic condition after getting
[33:38.320 --> 33:45.040]  the shot or they've lost somebody. Like I lost my cousin who was 17 who suddenly just drove into a
[33:45.040 --> 33:51.600]  tree and they didn't do an autopsy or look into it. And there's countless other people out there
[33:51.600 --> 33:58.000]  like that. I mean, this was our family and people are still just kind of burying their heads in the
[33:58.000 --> 34:04.960]  sand and wanting to go on like it didn't happen. But our system is still set up to where it could
[34:04.960 --> 34:09.760]  still happen again. Like we haven't even held those people accountable. As a matter of fact,
[34:09.760 --> 34:18.800]  we put them back in office again. To me, I look at it and what astounds me the most
[34:18.800 --> 34:24.080]  is just how effective the control of information has been. That's why what you're doing is so
[34:24.080 --> 34:28.320]  important. You've got to get out there and tell people what happened. Because as you point out,
[34:29.680 --> 34:34.160]  everybody I know as well, there's been somebody in their family, immediate or extended family,
[34:34.160 --> 34:38.320]  that's been harmed by this. But everybody thinks that this is a one-off. It didn't happen to
[34:38.320 --> 34:43.360]  everybody else. They don't realize that it happened, how broad this is and how extensive
[34:43.360 --> 34:47.360]  it is. And they think that they're alone. Just like they wanted us to think that we were alone
[34:47.360 --> 34:51.920]  if we saw what was happening and we weren't going to participate in it. Well, you're the only one
[34:51.920 --> 34:57.520]  who thinks like that. And we're not. There's a lot of people out there who saw what was happening
[34:57.520 --> 35:04.240]  and were onto this scam from the very beginning. And I had the help of a person who gave me a
[35:04.240 --> 35:09.200]  heads up about a year before this happened. He said, there's a lot of chatter about Dark
[35:09.200 --> 35:13.040]  Winter 2. And he goes, you know what Dark Winter 1 was? And I was like, yeah, I know about that.
[35:13.040 --> 35:17.760]  And so when I saw all of this, it was falling right in the pattern of all these germ games.
[35:17.760 --> 35:22.800]  The very first one was two months before 9-11. So I knew exactly what was happening with this.
[35:22.800 --> 35:27.040]  And I also knew about the PCR test and what Carey Mullis had said. Talk a little bit about what you
[35:27.040 --> 35:33.120]  saw with the PCR. Right. So that was another part of the Pandora's box that changed.
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[36:40.400 --> 36:49.120]  responsibly. I noticed that before COVID, I worked in a university lab when I was in college and we
[36:49.120 --> 36:54.560]  had what's called a rapid flu test. And it was something that way, it was a nose swab too,
[36:55.120 --> 36:58.960]  or it could be a saliva swab, but it wasn't something that went all the way up to your brain
[36:58.960 --> 37:06.000]  like the COVID PCR swab did. And even the instructions like us in the lab as lab assistants,
[37:06.000 --> 37:10.880]  we, the, one of the number one things we did was coach people on how to collect specimens properly
[37:10.880 --> 37:16.560]  because it was our job to like screen them, make sure they were gonna work for the test. And if
[37:16.560 --> 37:21.920]  they weren't in a correct format to accept for the test, then we'd have to tell the nurse or
[37:21.920 --> 37:26.640]  doctor, we need you to go recollect that specimen. So these rapid flu tests, they had to be done
[37:26.640 --> 37:34.400]  within 15 minutes and it was basically a PCR test. It didn't have the same cycle threshold part. So
[37:34.400 --> 37:41.120]  it was kind of a predecessor to the COVID-19 PCR test, but it wasn't done on every patient that had
[37:41.120 --> 37:46.720]  a cold or flu symptom or a pneumonia at all. It was only done on patients that came in,
[37:46.720 --> 37:53.520]  like with a recurrent pneumonia that they couldn't cure or a recurrent cold. And it would be done to
[37:53.520 --> 37:58.880]  try and figure out which types of medications this particular disease would respond to.
[37:58.880 --> 38:03.280]  So it was like a case by case basis. It wasn't just everybody that walked into the hospital.
[38:03.840 --> 38:08.960]  And so when COVID-19 came around and they said, you need to stick this all the way up into people's
[38:08.960 --> 38:16.560]  brains, no saliva, and it has to be on every single person. Because I mean, it really flipped
[38:16.560 --> 38:21.040]  it at one point. It went from, you can't get the PCR test because they had a drive through
[38:21.920 --> 38:27.280]  where you could go out into society at first and you have to go to one of these PCR testing centers
[38:27.280 --> 38:30.880]  and they'd say, you have to have symptoms. You can't get it unless you have symptoms. And then
[38:30.880 --> 38:36.640]  people were mad that they couldn't get the PCR test. And then overnight it flipped to now everybody
[38:36.640 --> 38:41.040]  has to get it for everything. You have to get it if you walk in the ER, even if you don't have COVID
[38:41.040 --> 38:46.480]  symptoms. And I thought that was weird. We never did that before. That is not supposed to be a
[38:46.480 --> 38:51.360]  screening test. It's supposed to be a diagnostic test because the screen is down when you don't
[38:51.360 --> 38:57.920]  have symptoms. It's trying to rule out if you're developing something. And they were telling us
[38:57.920 --> 39:02.880]  asymptomatic spread. Well, I could see in the hospital, there's no such thing as asymptomatic
[39:02.880 --> 39:08.560]  spread. This six feet thing is made up. Masks don't work. I knew that from the very beginning
[39:08.560 --> 39:15.360]  because masks in the hospital had only been used for collecting spittle over a surgery case. It
[39:15.360 --> 39:23.280]  wasn't meant to prevent germ spread. That was never part of our infection control. So I knew
[39:23.280 --> 39:27.840]  there was something up with these PCR tests and I kept looking at the results. And finally I find
[39:28.560 --> 39:34.080]  that it's done by PCR. And I recall my time at a university lab when we were just starting PCR
[39:34.080 --> 39:40.480]  testing, because this was early 2000s and Mollis invented it like late 86 is when the NIH took it
[39:40.480 --> 39:47.120]  up and started using PCR. So it got into healthcare early 2000s and all the techs, like my mom was a
[39:47.120 --> 39:51.520]  medical technologist. It was her job, but she actually ran one of these labs. It was her job
[39:51.600 --> 39:58.160]  to run those tests. And they were all talking like this was like their new tech, like they
[39:58.160 --> 40:03.200]  were kidding and candy store excited about it, this PCR thing. But it was all genetic testing
[40:03.200 --> 40:07.760]  was genetic. It was done for cancer screening, which they thought was genetic. And it was done
[40:07.760 --> 40:15.440]  for like women that would like, they would call it genetic counseling. If you're a couple and
[40:15.440 --> 40:20.000]  you're a female and you go and you want to have genetic counseling, you can see if you have like
[40:20.000 --> 40:26.640]  a hereditary disease, like Huntington's, and then maybe decide if you want to continue with
[40:26.640 --> 40:32.960]  procreation or not. So it was genetic. So I thought, why all of a sudden are we testing for
[40:32.960 --> 40:38.400]  viruses with PCR? Well, while I wasn't looking, because for 10 years I was a medical coder. So
[40:38.400 --> 40:44.080]  I wasn't really looking at what was going on in the lab until COVID happened. So then I find it's
[40:44.160 --> 40:49.920]  by PCR. And I start looking at, well, there's obviously this problem with false positives.
[40:49.920 --> 40:53.840]  Even Elon Musk was saying, I got two tests in one day, one of them was negative, one of them was
[40:53.840 --> 40:59.200]  positive. And I could see the hospital was running over and over and over these PCR tests, waiting
[40:59.200 --> 41:03.760]  to get a positive result if they didn't get the right result. And I'm like, this doesn't make any
[41:03.760 --> 41:12.240]  sense. What is going on here? And it fast forward to like after the PCR tests evolved a little bit
[41:12.240 --> 41:20.960]  toward the end of 2020 into 2021. They had what's called a PCR multiplex assay. So it was four
[41:20.960 --> 41:30.320]  different viruses they were actually monitoring. Flu A, Flu B, RSV and COVID-19. And then the only
[41:30.320 --> 41:37.040]  one that ever came up positive over a whole year of running all four of these viruses was COVID.
[41:37.760 --> 41:43.920]  Not one flu, not one RSV. And they say we have a RSV pandemic now.
[41:45.040 --> 41:49.440]  It's such an amazing thing. And you know, we go back and we used to play the clips all the time of
[41:49.440 --> 41:57.600]  Mollis calling out Fauci because, you know, Fauci used the PCR test to claim that AIDS was caused
[41:57.600 --> 42:04.240]  by a virus. And that created a big back and forth between them. And Mollis said, well, I'm not going
[42:04.240 --> 42:10.720]  to get involved in that fight, but I'll tell you this, that you can't prove it using the PCR test.
[42:10.720 --> 42:15.760]  It can't be used as a diagnostic like that. And so it was very interesting because they also did
[42:15.760 --> 42:22.160]  not isolate the HIV, you know, the virus that supposedly caused AIDS either. And so this whole
[42:22.160 --> 42:29.040]  thing has been kind of a bluff. What it reminds me of, Zoe, is the polygraph tests. My wife used to
[42:29.040 --> 42:32.800]  be a district personnel manager for convenience stores. And what they would do if they would have,
[42:33.680 --> 42:36.880]  you know, massive shortages somewhere and they thought there was theft that was going on with
[42:36.880 --> 42:42.400]  the employees, they would call them in and polygraph them. And the polygraph did not work,
[42:42.400 --> 42:48.800]  but it only worked if people believed that it could tell them, tell whether or not they were
[42:48.800 --> 42:52.800]  lying. And then they would tell the truth about it and make a confession, right? So it was simply
[42:52.800 --> 42:58.720]  a mind game that was being played on the people that were there. And that's what the PCR thing is.
[42:58.720 --> 43:03.360]  It really is a mind game, except that it's become something of a lie detector for the people who
[43:03.360 --> 43:08.080]  are administering it. We realize now that they are the liars who are putting this stuff out.
[43:08.080 --> 43:12.960]  I just had in a comment, Lance put up my producer, he said that video of Lutnik where he's talking
[43:12.960 --> 43:17.920]  about that reminds him of this scene out of the Big Short, which we just went back and watched
[43:17.920 --> 43:24.480]  again because of the AI bubble. And at one point this guy gets up and he's talking and one of the
[43:24.480 --> 43:29.440]  guys who's onto the whole scam says, why is he confessing? And the other guy says, he's not
[43:29.440 --> 43:35.600]  confessing. He's bragging. And that's basically what Lutnik was doing. He wasn't confessing about
[43:35.600 --> 43:40.320]  all this stuff. He was bragging about it. And he continues to get away with this kind of stuff.
[43:40.320 --> 43:46.320]  Truly is amazing. Yeah. Well, what's even more nefarious about the PCR test is so the false
[43:46.320 --> 43:51.520]  positive narrative that is only, it's about the cycle threshold, but you're correct. They didn't
[43:51.520 --> 43:59.200]  actually sequence the, they didn't sequence SARS-CoV-2. So they never had a sequence.
[43:59.200 --> 44:05.200]  They have what's called a consensus sequence, which is an average that an AI came up with.
[44:05.200 --> 44:09.680]  And that's what they use because they knew they would find this in a percentage of people.
[44:09.680 --> 44:14.480]  And then they could dial it in with the cycle threshold up or down. Same thing with the AIDS
[44:14.480 --> 44:19.600]  thing. They never isolated AIDS and they used their antibody tests at first, which could be
[44:19.600 --> 44:24.720]  dialed up or down in the same way as the cycle threshold. And David Raznik, PhD, who I've
[44:24.720 --> 44:30.160]  interviewed can vouch for that. And he's got all the science on his webpage to prove all of that.
[44:31.280 --> 44:37.280]  But what I was looking past the cycle threshold, because I knew this test is dialed in for some
[44:37.280 --> 44:43.040]  reason, like they can predict the results somehow. And I needed to know how they were manipulating
[44:43.040 --> 44:49.200]  the test. And so I looked a little bit further and I find a document from the CDC that says,
[44:49.200 --> 44:53.760]  for every COVID test, every CLIA certified lab, which is all of them,
[44:54.800 --> 45:00.080]  they all have to be in order to build insurance or anything, have to be CLIA certified. Then
[45:00.080 --> 45:10.400]  they have to send a genetic sequence to one of two gene banks, either NCBI or GISAID gene banks.
[45:11.760 --> 45:16.160]  And it listed like eight different sequences. So they're saying, you know, the variants
[45:16.400 --> 45:25.040]  in the details. But if you look at some of these labs that were running PCR tests and making all
[45:25.040 --> 45:31.360]  the money off running these PCR tests, they could also take that same sample off that machine,
[45:31.360 --> 45:37.520]  put it on another machine, run a sequence. And they needed to in order to comply with the CDC's
[45:37.520 --> 45:43.760]  directive to send genetic sequences to these gene banks. And I interviewed David Raznik, who is a
[45:43.760 --> 45:48.480]  chemistry professor who worked with Carey Mullis and knew Carey Mullis. I asked him directly,
[45:48.480 --> 45:54.240]  do you think that they were just clipping a tiny little section of the genetic code
[45:55.120 --> 45:59.360]  and then sending it to these gene banks? Or do you think they were getting the entire sequence?
[45:59.360 --> 46:05.040]  And he says, well, they're running a lab. They're busy. They're not really thinking about,
[46:05.040 --> 46:11.040]  you know, taking the time to click out a sequence. So could they? Yes. But would they really do that?
[46:11.040 --> 46:15.840]  No, it'd be so much easier for them to just send the whole thing and then let the gene bank decide
[46:15.840 --> 46:24.400]  which part that they want to determine is the variance of concern. So they were and you look
[46:24.400 --> 46:30.000]  at the different gene banks. There's one called Data Vance, which is now a public private partnership.
[46:30.000 --> 46:37.120]  You look at a human genome project, which is now BGI, BGI gene genetics, I think, in China,
[46:37.120 --> 46:41.360]  which is their biggest biotech company. And there's billions of billions of dollars
[46:42.000 --> 46:49.040]  in collecting our DNA. And what they say they're using it for is to and now we have Larry Ellison
[46:49.040 --> 46:53.360]  actually admitting it day two of the Trump administration that they're going to use AI,
[46:53.360 --> 46:57.920]  which is what they use to get the consensus sequence that they dial the PCR test in with.
[46:59.360 --> 47:06.800]  They're going to use AI to look at our blood and then make a drug or a therapeutic or a vaccine
[47:07.200 --> 47:14.000]  tailored to our individual genome. And now there's a massive industry of all these big tech oligarchs
[47:14.000 --> 47:21.040]  that are using AI to develop different vaccines or different therapeutics, biotech therapeutics
[47:21.040 --> 47:25.440]  tailored to the individual genome. So whether or not they're successful with this technology,
[47:25.440 --> 47:30.640]  there's a whole bunch of money invested in it. So I think PCR was actually a data mining
[47:31.200 --> 47:36.080]  operation as well as a money laundering operation. That's interesting. Yeah. And of course,
[47:36.080 --> 47:41.040]  if they want to make a bio weapon that is going to target certain groups of people,
[47:41.040 --> 47:45.200]  that makes it very easy to do that as well. And when you look at the PCR,
[47:45.200 --> 47:50.560]  Handy, who also has a substack and he's been a regular listener and commenter on the program,
[47:50.560 --> 47:56.720]  he worked in hospitals and he said he was suspicious of these things, finally got a nurse
[47:57.360 --> 48:04.080]  to take one of these swabs right out of the package and run it through and got a positive test
[48:04.800 --> 48:10.960]  without swapping anybody. So it was such garbage. I mean, either it's preloaded with something
[48:10.960 --> 48:15.440]  or the PCR test is just so off the charts with its magnification, whatever,
[48:15.440 --> 48:19.920]  you can find anything anywhere, as Kerry Mullis said. Well, didn't the president of Tanzania,
[48:19.920 --> 48:24.240]  I think he did some PCR tests on like a papaya and like a Coca-Cola.
[48:26.160 --> 48:31.600]  That's right. It's total nonsense and garbage. And I remember when they had the Cannes Film Festival,
[48:31.680 --> 48:37.040]  it was in the summer of 2020 and you had all these elitists who somehow they got there,
[48:37.040 --> 48:41.120]  I guess on their private jets, didn't have to get screened too much. But anyway, they're there and
[48:41.120 --> 48:45.920]  they were complaining that they had to do spit tests. They said, that's disgusting. We got to
[48:45.920 --> 48:50.320]  spit in this thing and they got to test it and so forth. I said, yeah, so why don't they allow us
[48:50.320 --> 48:55.600]  to do a spit test, right? They got to ram that thing up your nose, but you don't get that. But
[48:55.600 --> 49:00.720]  the elites, the jet setters, the private jets, they get the spit test or whatever.
[49:00.800 --> 49:05.840]  Oh my God, that's funny. All this stuff was just so ridiculous. When I worked in the university lab,
[49:05.840 --> 49:11.280]  there was something called sputum testing, which is exactly that. You basically hawk a loogie into
[49:11.280 --> 49:17.760]  a cup and like it was the most disgusting sample I ever had to deal with when I worked in the lab.
[49:17.760 --> 49:24.880]  And I make a joke in my book, we all were spared that they didn't make that the test that we had
[49:24.880 --> 49:30.640]  to do. But you're telling me that's what the elites do. Yeah, I think that's preferable to
[49:30.640 --> 49:35.920]  have that thing ram rotted up your nose. I guess I didn't have that done to me. So I went through
[49:35.920 --> 49:41.600]  the whole thing without having a PCR test. Sorry, go ahead. Me neither. That was another reason why
[49:41.600 --> 49:48.480]  I walked out because if I were to stay in the hospital or stay working for them and get the
[49:48.480 --> 49:53.360]  exemption, I was going to have to take a PCR test every week. And I didn't want to have to take a
[49:53.360 --> 49:59.600]  PCR test. I was pretty sure they were going to be collecting our DNA with it or sensing if we're
[49:59.600 --> 50:04.480]  vaccinated or not, or somehow tying that in with the vaccine passport. I wasn't entirely sure how
[50:04.480 --> 50:09.520]  it was going to work, but I knew that it wasn't what they were telling us and I wasn't about to
[50:09.520 --> 50:13.920]  play along. So that was another reason why I couldn't. And of course, some of the other things
[50:13.920 --> 50:19.760]  too were some people did some zoomed in on the microscope looking at the tip of the swab and
[50:19.760 --> 50:24.160]  said, look at this. Here's one of the cotton swab and here's this PCR thing. It's got all these
[50:24.160 --> 50:29.280]  spikes on it. And if I run it across some of these things, those spikes stick and stay. So are they
[50:29.280 --> 50:35.840]  actually implanting something into you? I did some research on it and I found there were two
[50:35.840 --> 50:41.760]  chemicals on the tip of the swab. One of them was ethylene oxide and that alone can like,
[50:41.760 --> 50:46.400]  they were putting it way up in your nose where your pineal gland is your third eye,
[50:46.400 --> 50:51.920]  which is right at the top. So putting that chemical right there is known to cause cancer.
[50:52.560 --> 50:57.360]  And so the more you do it, the more personagenic it's going to be. And then it also has a chemical
[50:57.360 --> 51:03.760]  property where it will basically block and calcify your pineal gland. So like closes your third eye.
[51:03.760 --> 51:11.760]  And it's also a way that your brain can sense light. It's how your body basically like synchronizes
[51:11.760 --> 51:16.880]  hormones throughout your whole body. So it can like change your whole endocrine system.
[51:16.880 --> 51:22.560]  If you set off your, if you close or calcify your, your pineal gland. So all sorts of things could
[51:22.560 --> 51:27.760]  happen just with that one chemical. But I think there was also graphene oxide on there and there
[51:27.760 --> 51:34.720]  was different schools that said they had been given these special masks even that had graphene
[51:34.720 --> 51:40.880]  in them similar, like the exact same phenomenon about the fibers that actually move and respond
[51:40.880 --> 51:47.040]  to magnetics. Well, graphene oxide has a magnetic property to it. That's why they wanted to use it.
[51:48.000 --> 51:52.560]  But it's also supposed to be clean. So they were saying like, we're using this to
[51:54.000 --> 51:57.760]  make it antibacterial because it has antibacterial properties.
[51:59.200 --> 52:05.840]  But both the swabs and some of the masks had graphene fibers in them
[52:06.400 --> 52:13.520]  that could maybe do that. And I have no idea what that would do if you shove it up your nose
[52:13.520 --> 52:18.480]  over and over and over. So they can inject the graphene into you. They can get it in there
[52:18.480 --> 52:22.560]  another way. And of course, I've mentioned this many times too, there's a couple of different
[52:22.560 --> 52:28.080]  batches, each of them over a million of these shots in Japan. And they noticed that they were
[52:28.080 --> 52:31.840]  getting black particulates. I don't know if it happened because they didn't keep them at the
[52:31.840 --> 52:38.800]  super cold temperatures or whatever, but they noticed black particulates and they said they
[52:38.800 --> 52:45.920]  reacted with magnets. Yeah, so what is that? But they would end the story. No more talking about
[52:45.920 --> 52:50.640]  that. And the Japanese government threw away a couple million of these vaccines because of
[52:50.640 --> 52:57.440]  that type of thing. But yeah, there's just so many issues there. And people have been lied to so
[52:57.440 --> 53:02.880]  thoroughly about all this. That's why it's not a dead issue. It is still alive. And they're going
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[54:03.760 --> 54:09.600]  responsibly. And since it worked so well, they will use the same tactics again. That's why it's
[54:09.600 --> 54:14.720]  very important to talk about these different tactics. And that's what you do. Yes. Right.
[54:15.360 --> 54:20.720]  They're moving forward with the mRNA. I mean, they're not only putting it in our food. Like
[54:20.720 --> 54:25.040]  we've probably heard, I'm sure your audience has heard about the bird flu and how they're doing the
[54:25.040 --> 54:32.000]  self-amplifying bird flu injections for poultry. And they're trying to get it in cattle and they've
[54:32.000 --> 54:39.360]  had mRNA shots in pork. So almost all the pork is tainted now since like 2018. Now they're rolling
[54:39.360 --> 54:44.240]  it out for pets. So now when you go in, you try and you have to get your annual rabies shot for
[54:44.240 --> 54:50.240]  your pets. Now that's going to be mRNA. They're moving over to the mRNA platform for all the
[54:50.320 --> 54:57.440]  vaccines. So normies who might be a little like cautious about COVID-19 because they've heard
[54:57.440 --> 55:03.440]  the rumors by now, most of them. But they haven't heard that now your RSV, your flu,
[55:04.640 --> 55:09.920]  and a lot of even like the childhood vaccines are moving over to this mRNA platform where they get
[55:09.920 --> 55:16.400]  to bypass clinical trials. So it still hasn't been, this is an experiment that is now being
[55:16.400 --> 55:23.440]  rolled out to all our vaccines under the guise of, this is totally fine. This is normal science.
[55:23.440 --> 55:29.920]  We've totally tested this, but it's absolutely not. I mean, they've even had. That's right.
[55:29.920 --> 55:35.680]  People need to understand. For like three years. Yeah. For the first one, we just barely passed
[55:35.680 --> 55:40.560]  the first part of monitoring. That's right. And people need to understand that the guy who
[55:40.560 --> 55:44.400]  boasted about being the father of the vaccine, first things he did, as you pointed out,
[55:45.280 --> 55:48.880]  Stargate thing with Larry Ellison, where he's talking about, well, we're going to use AI to
[55:48.880 --> 55:54.240]  custom design this for your genetics. And then we will deliver it with an mRNA platform. And the
[55:54.240 --> 56:00.880]  person that they put in as the, they chose to put in at the head of the CDC was Susan Monarez.
[56:00.880 --> 56:09.120]  And that had been what she was working on with BARDA and with ARPA-H and these dark
[56:09.520 --> 56:17.280]  bioweapon companies that are part of the government and the military industrial
[56:17.280 --> 56:21.600]  complex and the bioweapon platforms and things like that. That's what, so there's all these
[56:21.600 --> 56:28.400]  different threads that tie this throughout the Trump administration, pushing mRNA for all these
[56:28.400 --> 56:32.960]  various things. And of course then, Brooke Rollins, who's the agricultural secretary,
[56:32.960 --> 56:39.200]  she decides on her own initiative that she's going to end this mass culling of chickens
[56:39.840 --> 56:45.920]  by authorizing the mRNA bird flu for chickens. And then they authorize it for other livestock as
[56:45.920 --> 56:52.560]  well. It is, the signals are all there, that this is all still going on, that Trump is right at the
[56:52.560 --> 57:00.000]  epicenter of all this mRNA stuff. And I guess what we could call now the mRNAi, as in AI,
[57:00.000 --> 57:06.080]  artificial intelligence. It's all connected together, isn't it? Absolutely. It's a giant web
[57:06.080 --> 57:15.200]  and it is going to be tied to our behavior scores and if we comply, how much we comply with it.
[57:16.080 --> 57:22.800]  Looking at who's monitoring the DNA, where they have to report the PCR results to,
[57:23.520 --> 57:30.560]  who's hiding the adverse effects of the vaccine, putting that all together and looking at
[57:31.920 --> 57:40.000]  where are they actually, where are we reporting all of these PCR results and where are we reporting
[57:40.000 --> 57:49.120]  the COVID-19 case numbers. And now we actually have a code to report the COVID-19 adverse effects,
[57:49.120 --> 57:55.920]  but it's still not being used. So looking at that and trying to figure out where the code was
[57:56.480 --> 58:02.400]  and why we're not able to report it still, I happen to find that every agency involved in
[58:02.400 --> 58:08.960]  monitoring COVID-19 cases and vaccination tracking specifically, because there's so
[58:08.960 --> 58:15.680]  many vaccine registries, it blows your mind, it's tied to national security. So it's a matter of
[58:15.680 --> 58:22.960]  national security if you participate in this scheme or not. Yeah, this is all DARPA and it's
[58:22.960 --> 58:29.280]  all the military and the intelligence agencies and all of the Dark Winter stuff. They had Fauci
[58:29.280 --> 58:34.480]  and the former head of the CIA was playing the role of the president during the first germ game
[58:34.480 --> 58:40.080]  in Dark Winter. I mean, it's all the usual suspects that are involved in all this stuff. It really is
[58:40.080 --> 58:46.960]  a bioweapon that is really targeted to the population and it truly is amazing.
[58:46.960 --> 58:52.800]  I think they're even going to try and do more data mining, like go even further than PCR testing
[58:52.800 --> 59:00.640]  with the wearables rollout that we're getting now. Because the information, like when I learned that
[59:00.640 --> 59:09.120]  our COVID-19 case numbers, the PCR test is actually getting reported to foreign countries
[59:09.120 --> 59:14.960]  and our DNA is being data mined and they're able to tell if we've had a vaccine or not,
[59:14.960 --> 59:21.040]  what's our ethnicity, where we are, how much money we make. They're layering all of this information
[59:21.040 --> 59:27.120]  and during Operation Work Speed, they had a program called Tiberius, which was used in hospitals.
[59:28.160 --> 59:33.600]  There's different Palantir programs that are used in hospitals to monitor and manage the hospital
[59:33.600 --> 59:38.880]  down to Lake Staffing. There was even a program that was part of Operation Work Speed called
[59:39.200 --> 59:44.160]  HHS Protect and the hospitals had to report how many ventilators were in use, how many patients
[59:44.160 --> 59:51.520]  were there. I don't know why my camera just stopped. That was weird. Well, I still have audio.
[59:53.520 --> 59:56.800]  Literally just, I didn't do it. You're back. You're back. That's good. You're back.
[59:58.800 --> 01:00:03.200]  So they had this program that hospitals had to report how many ventilators, how many patients
[01:00:03.200 --> 01:00:10.480]  are in the ICU, how much remdesivir we were using, what's our census report, all kinds of
[01:00:10.480 --> 01:00:15.440]  information that even the hospital didn't want to have to report in addition to all the other data
[01:00:15.440 --> 01:00:23.680]  mining we were doing. And that program was a Palantir program called Tiberius, which it's
[01:00:23.680 --> 01:00:30.320]  used in Gaza and that's the one that they use to assign risk scores. Well, they use that here
[01:00:30.320 --> 01:00:35.600]  already in America during Operation Work Speed to figure out if you were vaccinated or not,
[01:00:35.600 --> 01:00:41.280]  to target different ethnic groups for vaccines, and then to figure out where the countermeasures,
[01:00:41.280 --> 01:00:47.680]  as in where did the ventilators need to go? Where did the remdesivir need to go? So they've already
[01:00:47.680 --> 01:00:53.840]  had these programs in place that are tied into our medical records. And then to hear Larry Ellison
[01:00:53.840 --> 01:00:59.760]  say, we're going to use your medical records and your DNA, your personal data to design stuff
[01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.120]  directly to you. And then in addition, they say, we're going to put wearables on you. They're
[01:01:05.120 --> 01:01:11.440]  going to monitor your body at all times for the purposes of national security. And I don't know
[01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:15.280]  how that doesn't send shivers down the spine of every single citizen in this country.
[01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.760]  Yeah, absolutely. I mean, we look at their big data thing. They have to have total information
[01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:24.240]  awareness. Remember how everybody was creeped out about that? And yet that is what this really is,
[01:01:24.240 --> 01:01:27.680]  the implementation of this. The big data is looking at everything that you're doing,
[01:01:27.680 --> 01:01:33.040]  not just online, but they've got to get it out of cyberspace into physical space with all these
[01:01:33.040 --> 01:01:40.320]  other aspects of it. And companies like Palantir, they have been focused on geospatial intelligence
[01:01:40.320 --> 01:01:47.200]  and data mining and drawing all these conclusions about people's politics or religion and so forth,
[01:01:47.200 --> 01:01:52.720]  based just on even geospatial intelligence. When they get to additional factors like this,
[01:01:53.680 --> 01:01:58.480]  there's, they know everything about you. And we're not allowed to know anything about what
[01:01:58.480 --> 01:02:03.440]  they do or the results. That's why it really is at its essence, that is an information war,
[01:02:03.440 --> 01:02:08.720]  because, you know, it is all the information is flowing in one direction, and they have an
[01:02:08.720 --> 01:02:15.840]  insatiable appetite to know everything about everybody. It is part and parcel of their control,
[01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:22.320]  this total knowledge about everyone and everything. And now AI and especially companies like Palantir
[01:02:22.320 --> 01:02:26.960]  have given them the ability to go through and collate this massive amount of data that they've
[01:02:26.960 --> 01:02:32.240]  been collecting for some time. Now they can make sense of it, because it was so much information
[01:02:32.240 --> 01:02:36.080]  they've been collecting on people, they couldn't sort through it with humans. And so now they've
[01:02:36.080 --> 01:02:40.960]  got the AI that can sort through this. That is what's so concerning about all of this.
[01:02:42.000 --> 01:02:46.000]  It really is, because when you go on social media and you're fed an algorithm of like,
[01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:53.040]  which posts do you get to see today? That's going to be how our whole lives are run.
[01:02:53.040 --> 01:02:57.440]  And I don't know how many people I've known complain about their algorithm. Oh, it's just,
[01:02:57.440 --> 01:03:01.440]  it's triggering me today, or I don't know why my algorithm's all screwed up and it's showing me,
[01:03:01.440 --> 01:03:06.560]  blah, blah. Well, imagine if that same algorithm is now your government gets to make decisions
[01:03:06.560 --> 01:03:10.720]  about if you're a good person or not, and if you get to go out today, or if you get to eat today,
[01:03:10.720 --> 01:03:14.720]  or if you get to use your money today. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, it's all about
[01:03:14.720 --> 01:03:20.240]  total control. And of course, that guy, Lucky Lutnick, Howard Lutnick, who is bragging about
[01:03:20.240 --> 01:03:25.920]  how much money he can make knowing that the government was going to just flood cash into
[01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:30.080]  these pharmaceutical companies. Now I can go in and I can make money off of that, right?
[01:03:30.080 --> 01:03:33.280]  So he's got this insider information. He's the guy that's going to be
[01:03:33.920 --> 01:03:41.760]  doing the new public-private version of a CBDC. And once they know all your financial transactions,
[01:03:41.760 --> 01:03:47.520]  all the rest, any part of this puzzle would give them pretty much total control over your life.
[01:03:47.520 --> 01:03:53.280]  But they've got so many different facets where they are monitoring and collating information
[01:03:53.280 --> 01:03:59.520]  about you that it truly is just overwhelming to even try to think about it. But again,
[01:03:59.520 --> 01:04:05.120]  it's the ignorance and the darkness that they have fooled everybody with. That's why it's so
[01:04:05.120 --> 01:04:13.040]  important what you're doing. And again, the site is thrillkillmedicalcult.com and you're also on
[01:04:13.040 --> 01:04:22.960]  Substack and people find that at zowe.substack.com. And it's very important for people to use this
[01:04:22.960 --> 01:04:28.000]  information, try to wake people up as to what's going on. They've not only hidden stuff from
[01:04:28.000 --> 01:04:33.680]  people, but they have, in terms of inoculation, the one thing they've inoculated you against
[01:04:33.680 --> 01:04:38.720]  is the truth. And they've inoculated you against questioning what they tell people.
[01:04:38.720 --> 01:04:43.680]  And that's why you need to try to wake people up with sites like Zoe's as well.
[01:04:43.680 --> 01:04:45.760]  So is there anything else that you would like to hit?
[01:04:49.120 --> 01:04:55.440]  If anyone is interested, I'm going to be doing a memorial for the people that we've lost to
[01:04:55.440 --> 01:05:04.480]  hospital protocols and vaccine injured, including women who may have had a stillbirth or a
[01:05:04.480 --> 01:05:13.120]  miscarriage due to the shot. So if you go to my website, there's a page called Vigil. And if you'd
[01:05:13.120 --> 01:05:17.920]  like to submit a name of a loved one, you don't have to tell us anything more, just the name of
[01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:23.680]  a loved one. You could even just put, you know, baby boy or baby girl, if you like. And we're going
[01:05:23.680 --> 01:05:32.080]  to be lighting a candle in remembrance of your loved ones. So if you like, please go and submit
[01:05:32.080 --> 01:05:36.960]  a name and we will honor your loss. That's important. We cannot forget what they've done
[01:05:36.960 --> 01:05:42.800]  to us. And we cannot forget those that they have killed. That's absolutely vital. Thank you so much
[01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:50.480]  for what you do. Again, Zoe Smith, her website is thrillkillmedicalcult.com. And you can find
[01:05:50.480 --> 01:05:57.840]  her on Substack at zoe.substack.com. And she spells Zoe Z-O-W-E. Thank you so much for joining
[01:05:57.840 --> 01:06:13.040]  us. We'll take a quick break, folks, and we will be right back. Stay with us.
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[01:08:02.320 --> 01:08:07.760]  Well, let's take a look at the AI bubble. And of course, it's kind of interesting. SoftBank,
[01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:12.240]  you know, we were just talking about Stargate project with Larry Ellison. And the bank that
[01:08:12.240 --> 01:08:18.960]  came in was this Japanese bank called SoftBank. They're very much invested in technology issues.
[01:08:19.600 --> 01:08:25.680]  And that was what Trump kicked off his second administration with. Well, SoftBank
[01:08:26.320 --> 01:08:32.080]  dumped every single share of NVIDIA. And that had an effect on the entire market,
[01:08:32.080 --> 01:08:38.640]  not just on NVIDIA stock. And remember, we talked about Michael Burry, the guy behind the,
[01:08:42.320 --> 01:08:48.000]  who sussed out Big Short, who sussed out what was going on with the market, real estate market
[01:08:48.000 --> 01:08:56.880]  fraud and bubble. And he focused on shorting NVIDIA as well as Palantir. And so we've had
[01:08:56.880 --> 01:09:02.800]  a lot of big players and people who are very professional, very savvy, who are calling bubble.
[01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:12.320]  And so NVIDIA went down by one and a half percent after SoftBank sold all of their shares. And then,
[01:09:12.320 --> 01:09:17.920]  of course, Palantir is also going down. And Palantir was really the biggest bet that Michael Burry
[01:09:17.920 --> 01:09:22.480]  of the Big Short put on. It was actually when he did the Big Short of over a billion dollars,
[01:09:22.480 --> 01:09:31.200]  which is like 80% of his company or his fund or whatever. So 84% of that short was Palantir.
[01:09:31.760 --> 01:09:43.120]  And 16% was the NVIDIA. And somebody put this up, inverse Kramer. So look at Kramer as being a
[01:09:43.120 --> 01:09:49.840]  contraindicator of what they should invest in. It said, Jim Kramer remains undefeated. And so
[01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:55.440]  what they have there is a tweet that he put out as recently as the 29th of October. And he was
[01:09:55.440 --> 01:10:03.200]  saying, I'm taking my price target for Palantir from 200 to 250! Well, it went from 200 when he
[01:10:03.200 --> 01:10:12.560]  said that down to now about maybe 165 or 170. As I said, he remains undefeated as always being the
[01:10:12.560 --> 01:10:18.320]  counterindicator of where things should go. And you know, when I look at all of this hype
[01:10:18.960 --> 01:10:25.840]  about AI robots that we got from Elon Musk last week and so many others, you know, the AI hype,
[01:10:25.840 --> 01:10:31.360]  the robotic hype and everything, this is Russia and their robot that they wanted to demonstrate.
[01:10:31.360 --> 01:10:38.480]  Again, we always hear about Russian bots, right? They're talking about AI that is putting out
[01:10:38.480 --> 01:10:44.240]  narratives on social media. But here's a literal Russian bot and people's comments about this.
[01:10:44.880 --> 01:10:52.080]  It looks like they used a drunk to teach its robot how to walk. See how it's walking there?
[01:10:52.080 --> 01:10:56.240]  And watch what happens. It takes another couple of steps and just like a drunk,
[01:10:56.240 --> 01:11:01.760]  it falls down on the side. Watch this, it's coming. It's staggering. There it goes down.
[01:11:02.640 --> 01:11:08.560]  Let's hope that that is a metaphor for robotics and for AI. Again, as I said last week,
[01:11:08.560 --> 01:11:12.640]  a lot of people are looking at this and they said, well, you know, how does this end? Well,
[01:11:12.640 --> 01:11:20.400]  there's only two or three combinations of this that could go either the AI hype and the bubble
[01:11:20.400 --> 01:11:28.880]  bursts and takes down the economy big time or global economy big time or it is successful
[01:11:28.880 --> 01:11:35.360]  and it takes everybody's jobs. And I said, well, there's a third alternative that it is sustained
[01:11:35.360 --> 01:11:41.920]  by the governments who use it to control us. And I think that is true of both AI and robotics.
[01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:49.440]  I think that the best use case for all this stuff is tyranny and totalitarianism. Well,
[01:11:49.440 --> 01:11:56.640]  SoftBank dumped their entire Nvidia stake, but they're not getting out of AI completely. So,
[01:11:56.640 --> 01:12:03.200]  it's not a complete pushback against AI. They just decided that they would move
[01:12:03.200 --> 01:12:11.680]  from Nvidia to some other platforms. They're still involved in AI and they had just under
[01:12:11.680 --> 01:12:19.360]  $6 billion stake in Nvidia and the guy who is the head of SoftBank, his name is Gotoo.
[01:12:19.920 --> 01:12:26.640]  I guess he's the Gotoo guy. If you want some tech capital. I can't say if we're in an AI bubble or
[01:12:26.640 --> 01:12:33.120]  not, said Gotoo, adding that the sale was for capital and can be utilized for our financing.
[01:12:33.120 --> 01:12:38.080]  So, he's not going to say that we're in an AI bubble because he's got some other irons in the
[01:12:38.080 --> 01:12:42.640]  fire and he doesn't want to tank this thing. I can neither confirm nor deny that we are in an
[01:12:42.640 --> 01:12:47.440]  AI bubble. Yeah, but a lot of people have been confirming that. As a matter of fact,
[01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:52.080]  ZeroHedge pointed out and said, well, we've had four recent articles that are really must read.
[01:12:52.080 --> 01:13:00.560]  Here's the headlines. The AI bubble watch out metric has just snapped. AI is now a debt bubble
[01:13:00.560 --> 01:13:08.080]  to quietly surpassing all banks to become the largest sector in the market. And Sam Altman,
[01:13:08.080 --> 01:13:13.920]  denying OpenAI needs a government bailout. He just wants massive government subsidies.
[01:13:14.720 --> 01:13:21.040]  So yeah, we do the subsidy so we don't have to do the bailout. So it had an effect, of course,
[01:13:21.040 --> 01:13:28.800]  on Nvidia, but also on a lot of different stocks. The futures slid down as AI jitters returned.
[01:13:28.800 --> 01:13:34.240]  And yet, no matter how many people come out, no matter how many people who are large and connected
[01:13:34.240 --> 01:13:40.800]  come out against this, you still have the bubble continues to inflate. And another company was
[01:13:40.800 --> 01:13:48.640]  involved in that as well, CoreWeave. They rent out access to the AI chips. And they had some
[01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:56.640]  interesting issues there and setbacks as well. But this article from Free Thought Project is
[01:13:57.360 --> 01:14:04.640]  very timely. They said it is time to pay attention. Europe has just eviscerated monetary privacy,
[01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:09.040]  and it's going to be coming here to the United States next. They're basically starting down the
[01:14:09.040 --> 01:14:15.280]  path of banning all cash, state-run digital money. It's a law that has passed, and it goes
[01:14:15.280 --> 01:14:21.040]  live in only 400 days. And so they're going to make it criminal to pay cash for anything
[01:14:21.040 --> 01:14:25.760]  over 10,000 euros. But of course, that level is going to continue to come down. That's why you
[01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:30.880]  need to get into physical gold and silver. You've got to get out of this system. And that's what
[01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.560]  they're talking about. They have a lot of different alternatives in this Free Thought Project article.
[01:14:35.280 --> 01:14:39.520]  One thing they don't mention, strangely enough, is physical gold and silver. I think that is the
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[01:16:53.280 --> 01:17:15.680]  Keith Riegert says that there's only two possibilities for AI. It's either going to
[01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:21.680]  collapse the economy if it doesn't work out, or if it does work out, the use case is to take
[01:17:21.680 --> 01:17:28.160]  everybody's job and make everybody's jobs obsolete. Not a good prospect if those are
[01:17:28.160 --> 01:17:33.280]  the two choices that are there. I think, though, that there is a third choice, and that is that
[01:17:33.280 --> 01:17:38.240]  the government, maybe it won't take everybody's jobs, and maybe it won't collapse the economy
[01:17:38.240 --> 01:17:45.600]  because maybe the AI bubble won't burst, but we will live under a dystopian control surveillance
[01:17:45.600 --> 01:17:50.240]  grid because that's what the government will use it for. So there's a third alternative. AI's
[01:17:50.880 --> 01:17:56.880]  killer use case, folks, is surveillance and control of us, and that's why the government
[01:17:56.880 --> 01:18:02.000]  is going to be so desperate to fund it, whatever it takes. If you want to know why gold and silver
[01:18:02.000 --> 01:18:10.080]  and bitcoin are soaring, it's the debasement of the dollar in order to fund the AI arms race,
[01:18:10.080 --> 01:18:16.720]  they said. And, of course, energy is the reality factor in all of this. That's where it gets real,
[01:18:17.280 --> 01:18:21.840]  and that's one of the reasons why Bill Gates and others are moving back away from the climate
[01:18:21.840 --> 01:18:28.000]  McGuffin. The plandemic McGuffin gives them all the justification that they need, and they need
[01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:34.320]  to have this surveillance control and ID, this control grid that is there. They need to have that,
[01:18:34.320 --> 01:18:38.080]  and they need to have artificial intelligence to run that. So they're pulling back from that
[01:18:38.080 --> 01:18:42.960]  because in order to have the AI control structure, they've got to have massive amounts of energy.
[01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:56.880]  All right, and joining us now is Dr. Richard Restak, MD, and he is a neuroscientist as well,
[01:18:56.880 --> 01:19:04.880]  and he has written a lot of books on the brain, and now this is one kind of the nexus of our brain
[01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:10.080]  and artificial intelligence. So I wanted to get him on because we, as you know, we talk about
[01:19:10.080 --> 01:19:14.560]  AI and its impact on society quite a bit. Thank you for joining us, Dr. Restak.
[01:19:15.440 --> 01:19:18.000]  Well, I'm happy to be here. Thank you, David.
[01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:21.600]  You've written so many books, and the best-selling author, and of course,
[01:19:21.600 --> 01:19:26.400]  people can find this on Amazon. You've written so many books. What is different about the brain?
[01:19:26.400 --> 01:19:29.920]  What is different about this one, and why did you write this book?
[01:19:30.800 --> 01:19:39.520]  I wrote this book to announce and to discuss the dangers that are lurking, so to speak,
[01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:45.600]  in the 21st century and are unique to the 21st century, but are having an effect on the brain
[01:19:45.600 --> 01:19:51.680]  and the negative one, so that we really are imperiled by eight different factors,
[01:19:52.240 --> 01:19:59.920]  one of which is the global warming. We have new diseases that are present in the 21st century that
[01:19:59.920 --> 01:20:05.840]  are increasing, starting with COVID and moving forward. We have problems, of course, with
[01:20:05.840 --> 01:20:12.960]  the global warming, which we'll talk about in more detail, and then the internet, the effect of the
[01:20:12.960 --> 01:20:21.200]  internet, the effect of AI, memory, the alteration, the attempt to alter memory, almost to alter our
[01:20:21.200 --> 01:20:27.600]  memories of what the past was like. This is an ongoing enterprise by various governments in the
[01:20:27.600 --> 01:20:35.120]  world, including our own. We also have surveillance, the seventh, the surveillance becoming increasingly
[01:20:35.120 --> 01:20:42.480]  a surveillance society. It's almost impossible to not be revealing things about yourself,
[01:20:42.480 --> 01:20:47.760]  because there's surveillance cameras everywhere. I can give you several examples of that just in
[01:20:47.760 --> 01:20:54.560]  my own personal life. And then finally, the eighth one is anxiety. All of these things are creating
[01:20:54.560 --> 01:21:02.240]  what I call an existential anxiety. People are being given information, but it's being molded
[01:21:02.240 --> 01:21:08.800]  according to the thoughts and the inclinations of people in power. For instance, let's take
[01:21:08.800 --> 01:21:14.960]  today's, right out of today's New York Times, on page A7, there's an article called,
[01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:23.680]  the air in New Delhi is life threatening. And it tells the tale of the New York Times reporters
[01:21:24.240 --> 01:21:30.400]  who have spread themselves throughout New Delhi from 6 a.m. until late in the evening of a certain
[01:21:30.400 --> 01:21:38.160]  day recently, and they measured the particulate matter in the air, and it was anywhere from 10
[01:21:38.160 --> 01:21:48.000]  times to 30 times as great as would be considered minimally normal. Now, on top of that, you have
[01:21:48.000 --> 01:21:55.840]  the statement that they state that the government is actually trying to hide this kind of insight
[01:21:56.560 --> 01:22:02.560]  to the populace by spraying water and other things like that. It says that they're doing this
[01:22:03.280 --> 01:22:10.240]  around the measuring stations, and they're also losing data from measuring stations during the
[01:22:10.240 --> 01:22:18.000]  worst bouts of pollution. So there you have the molding of the facts, either denying them all
[01:22:18.000 --> 01:22:23.680]  together or trying to improve them so people say, oh well, they measured it down at such and such
[01:22:23.680 --> 01:22:28.000]  a measuring station, and it was really not all that high. Of course, they were spreading
[01:22:28.640 --> 01:22:34.880]  water and other things to try to reduce this. So we've got a capitalist society here in the United
[01:22:34.880 --> 01:22:42.560]  States, which has a vested interest in pushing forward certain scientific points of view.
[01:22:43.360 --> 01:22:49.040]  So science is being put sort of in the back seat, and there's politicians and other people,
[01:22:49.040 --> 01:22:55.600]  all of whom share one thing, capitalistic enterprises in which they're part of or which
[01:22:55.600 --> 01:23:03.840]  they are advancing. And a kind of crony capitalism where they can get protection and subsidies as
[01:23:03.840 --> 01:23:09.600]  well. And the control is being taken away from us because, as I was just reporting earlier today,
[01:23:10.320 --> 01:23:15.280]  they're working very hard to make sure that state and local governments can't enact any
[01:23:16.080 --> 01:23:21.280]  control on artificial intelligence. And that came up in the context of talking about how the
[01:23:21.280 --> 01:23:27.760]  manufacturers of tasers, also big manufacturers of police body cams, how they want to wed that to
[01:23:27.760 --> 01:23:32.400]  artificial intelligence. And the question is, you know, what could possibly go wrong with that?
[01:23:32.400 --> 01:23:38.400]  If they identify you, they misidentify you as a dangerous criminal and warn the police about how
[01:23:38.400 --> 01:23:44.320]  dangerous you are, they could get people killed. Well, not only that, but all of these efforts
[01:23:45.440 --> 01:23:52.640]  set up a sense of anxiety and fear. Let me just tell you what happened to me in one morning.
[01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:59.200]  Called a cab to go to a medical appointment, and we started going down the road. I said to the
[01:23:59.200 --> 01:24:03.920]  driver, you know, you're not going the most efficient or the quickest way. He said, I know
[01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:09.040]  that. He said, but I don't want to go that way because there's speed cameras. I said, well,
[01:24:09.040 --> 01:24:14.400]  you know, you're driving very sensibly and you're not speeding and I'm in no hurry. So what's the
[01:24:14.400 --> 01:24:19.520]  problem? He said, well, they take pictures of everybody that goes by those cameras because they
[01:24:19.520 --> 01:24:25.440]  want to see who's in those photos in those cars. So I asked him to give me a reference for that and
[01:24:25.440 --> 01:24:30.800]  he got sort of didn't say anything else for the rest of the trip. So when I got down to the medical
[01:24:30.800 --> 01:24:38.320]  building, I got in the elevator and said, in this facility, there is surveillance, both obvious and
[01:24:38.320 --> 01:24:50.400]  hidden. This is all one morning. And then when I got up to sign in, I signed the board with an
[01:24:50.400 --> 01:24:57.520]  electronic pen and I didn't see no signature. I said, well, it didn't take. She said, oh, it took,
[01:24:57.520 --> 01:25:02.160]  but we don't allow it to go on the screen so it could be seen. I said, why is that? She said,
[01:25:02.160 --> 01:25:08.240]  well, somebody behind you might see the thing and then remember it and use your signature
[01:25:08.240 --> 01:25:13.200]  to forward something somewhere. Well, first of all, there was a sign that said, stand
[01:25:13.200 --> 01:25:19.200]  10 feet back. And secondly, there's nobody else behind me. So there's three examples just drawn
[01:25:19.200 --> 01:25:25.200]  at random that were becoming an increasingly surveilled society, which is creating a sense
[01:25:25.200 --> 01:25:31.120]  of paranoia and a sense of fear. So the brain has to adjust to these types of things, David,
[01:25:31.120 --> 01:25:37.200]  and it's very hard to do. And I think that is calculated. You know, they've been, they want
[01:25:37.200 --> 01:25:41.840]  to do this even to the extent. And when you talk about these cameras taking everybody's picture,
[01:25:41.840 --> 01:25:45.680]  the flock network that is out there, this corporation that is saying, well, we can do
[01:25:45.680 --> 01:25:52.080]  whatever we want because it's in public space and, you know, we're not government so we can
[01:25:52.080 --> 01:25:57.040]  collect this information. And yet they collect it in order to sell it to the government. So it's
[01:25:57.040 --> 01:26:03.920]  just one level indirect, but they not only grab your license plate, but they also do a complete
[01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:09.040]  profile of your car and all of its idiosyncrasies. Does it have a dent here? Does it have a scrape
[01:26:09.040 --> 01:26:14.080]  there? What about a bumper sticker? So it creates a model of your car. And so they almost have like,
[01:26:14.080 --> 01:26:20.800]  you know, biometric identification of your cars as well as of you. And this is now made possible
[01:26:20.800 --> 01:26:27.920]  because of the advances of AI. But this has been something that has been concerning me. I look at
[01:26:27.920 --> 01:26:32.720]  things kind of from a libertarian perspective. And this has been concerning me for a long time,
[01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:38.720]  the idea that government is using technology many different ways, internet, social media,
[01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:46.080]  things like that to monitor and to manipulate us all the time. And to me, artificial intelligence
[01:26:46.080 --> 01:26:52.800]  just puts this on steroids. And so I think there is something to be anxious about if we're going to
[01:26:53.760 --> 01:26:57.760]  look at this. We should be concerned about it. Maybe not anxious, but we should be concerned
[01:26:57.760 --> 01:27:00.880]  about the goals of people who are putting this kind of stuff together.
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[01:28:03.600 --> 01:28:09.120]  Well, there's that. And then if you can manage to change the present, you can manipulate the
[01:28:09.120 --> 01:28:15.760]  future. Of course, the real way to get it is to get control of the past, as Orwell pointed out.
[01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:21.600]  You control the past, you know, you can control the present and then by the implication control
[01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:28.240]  the future. And we've seen alterations of materials, even government documents,
[01:28:28.800 --> 01:28:35.360]  government films, documentaries, things like that are being altered in ways that are not
[01:28:35.360 --> 01:28:40.400]  visible, not, I should say detectable, not detectable to the ordinary person.
[01:28:40.400 --> 01:28:47.520]  So they get ideas about what the past was like, which are wrong and don't show you,
[01:28:48.320 --> 01:28:56.720]  as I mentioned in the book, if you were at a dance in 1850 before the civil war, and it's a
[01:28:57.360 --> 01:29:03.040]  film we're watching, let's say we're watching a film about 1850 and we're seeing people ballroom
[01:29:03.040 --> 01:29:08.560]  dancing, all that. Then one of them pulls to the side and pulls out a cell phone and you say,
[01:29:08.560 --> 01:29:12.720]  wait a minute, we didn't have cell phones then. Well, you know, there were a lot of things that
[01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:20.320]  were going on now that were not going on in the past. And it's not to our advantage to try to
[01:29:20.320 --> 01:29:25.920]  pretend that they were, they weren't. We have to understand the past, understand the future.
[01:29:26.560 --> 01:29:36.880]  And we're not only creating situations that are false, but we're also, like in 1984, Orwell
[01:29:36.960 --> 01:29:43.360]  created a character called Commander Ogilvy. He was a war hero. He got all sorts of
[01:29:44.080 --> 01:29:50.320]  medals and it was all the proletariat were all told to honor him and so forth. Well, he never
[01:29:50.320 --> 01:29:57.200]  existed. He actually was made up entirely. And that's one of the things that the narrator is
[01:29:57.200 --> 01:30:05.760]  doing in the job at work is filling in photographs of see, inserting Ogilvy into historical events
[01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:11.600]  that happened, war time scenarios, et cetera. And while reading it, we'll say, wow, this is
[01:30:11.600 --> 01:30:17.440]  some man. Well, he was a complete fabrication. We're just about at that point with Sora
[01:30:18.240 --> 01:30:25.840]  out the AI out, which could take you and had you, you know, to say, let's get David Knight and have
[01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:31.120]  him leading some sort of a parade or whatever. And, you know, suddenly people say, well, gosh,
[01:30:31.120 --> 01:30:37.760]  I saw with my own eyes. So what's happening is that the actual seeing is believing is being
[01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:42.400]  turned on its head. So that's no longer true. You're talking about a completely fabricated
[01:30:42.400 --> 01:30:48.240]  character out of Orwell. It's just recently they had Tilly Norwood, who is a completely fabricated
[01:30:48.240 --> 01:30:54.240]  AI personality. And the person who came up with it has got agents representing her. They got her
[01:30:54.240 --> 01:31:00.720]  out there as an actress. It was like, so I've created an AI actress, which will do a lot of
[01:31:00.720 --> 01:31:06.560]  different roles for you. She probably does her own stunts as well. I mentioned people in SAG,
[01:31:06.560 --> 01:31:12.080]  the Screen Actors Guild, and they're furious about this and said any agent that represents
[01:31:12.080 --> 01:31:17.520]  this AI character is not going to do any business with us. But we're already at that point. It
[01:31:17.520 --> 01:31:23.360]  truly is interesting. Yeah. And one of the ways of neutralizing it is to create the situation that
[01:31:23.360 --> 01:31:28.320]  exists right now between you and me. You're laughing and I'm laughing because it seems funny
[01:31:28.320 --> 01:31:34.640]  and it is funny, but it's a very serious purpose behind all this. Yes. It's all a matter to try to
[01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:41.680]  alter people's perceptions so that they begin to doubt the veredity of what they're seeing.
[01:31:41.680 --> 01:31:47.120]  That's right. Yes. And I've talked for the longest time about how the whole idea for the internet
[01:31:47.120 --> 01:31:51.920]  was created by DARPA psychologists. And I've been concerned that it was all about psychological
[01:31:51.920 --> 01:31:58.400]  manipulation from the get-go with all of this. But as a physician and as a neuroscientist,
[01:31:59.520 --> 01:32:04.800]  I'd be interested in your take on what is currently going on. Because besides manipulating the past
[01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:09.760]  by changing information about the past or memory-holing it or writing a new alternative
[01:32:09.760 --> 01:32:15.200]  history of it, they're also concerned. And there's been projects that have been put out by DARPA.
[01:32:16.160 --> 01:32:19.520]  And I don't know if they've been successful or not, but they're putting out requests for
[01:32:19.520 --> 01:32:25.200]  people to come up with things to manipulate people's memories. So you've got a soldier,
[01:32:25.200 --> 01:32:31.440]  they say, who's got bad PTSD. Let's get rid of that memory. Let's give them different memories.
[01:32:32.720 --> 01:32:36.720]  What do you see in terms of someone who studies the brain and neuroscience?
[01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:41.680]  What do you see about that? What do you think is the state of the art with that?
[01:32:42.560 --> 01:32:46.800]  Well, my last book was called The Complete Book of Memory. It had to do with memory. I studied
[01:32:46.800 --> 01:32:53.280]  memory in great detail. And of course, you have to do away with the concept that memory is like a
[01:32:54.000 --> 01:32:59.040]  videotape or something that you just store in your brain. And when you get and want to get it,
[01:32:59.040 --> 01:33:04.720]  you just bring it out like you bring out a videotape. It's not like that. It's a reconstruction.
[01:33:04.720 --> 01:33:12.400]  Each time you think back to a certain event, you alter that memory so that you have memory one,
[01:33:12.400 --> 01:33:18.880]  memory two, memory three, on and on and on. That's the nature of memory. And memory can be
[01:33:18.880 --> 01:33:24.560]  manipulated. It's always, you know, in the courtroom, they're always trying to avoid the
[01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:30.400]  contamination of the witness. An example of that would be, well, which car went through the red
[01:33:30.400 --> 01:33:37.600]  light? And to ask a witness, he said, oh, it was the red car went through the red light. Well,
[01:33:37.600 --> 01:33:42.960]  wouldn't it surprise you to know that it wasn't a red light, but it was a stop sign, Mr. Witness?
[01:33:43.920 --> 01:33:51.040]  Of course, his credibility is gone because he took the suggestion that it was a red light instead.
[01:33:51.040 --> 01:33:56.480]  And it'd be very easy to do because you don't necessarily have that image, that intersection
[01:33:56.480 --> 01:34:03.120]  in your mind. So that's why there's protections even in the courtroom against leading the witness,
[01:34:03.120 --> 01:34:08.240]  they call it. In other words, providing information that's either not true at all
[01:34:08.240 --> 01:34:14.720]  or half true. So we've got that cause. This is not, this didn't start in the 21st century.
[01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:20.560]  That started, you know, as long as we've had courtrooms. This is more an emphasis now on
[01:34:20.560 --> 01:34:26.560]  altering memory so that people will get up there and under cross-examination, they'll do pretty well
[01:34:26.560 --> 01:34:31.360]  because their whole memory's been altered. They've changed it by various mechanisms,
[01:34:31.360 --> 01:34:36.960]  suggestion, repeating the information, which is false, of course, which is the misinformation.
[01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:46.400]  There's a cartoon about a week ago by Ramirez in which he spoke to prize winner. He has three
[01:34:46.400 --> 01:34:53.920]  doctors in an operating room, in a laboratory. One of them is looking into a microscope and he
[01:34:53.920 --> 01:35:00.080]  looks up and he says, this is the most dangerous pathogen we have ever encountered. And the second
[01:35:00.080 --> 01:35:06.400]  doctor says, well, is it bubonic plague? Is it smallpox? And then the one that he says, no,
[01:35:06.400 --> 01:35:14.640]  it's misinformation and disinformation. That's right. And we've got to be very careful because
[01:35:15.200 --> 01:35:20.800]  many times the people who will tell us about that are the people who want to be the ones who define
[01:35:20.800 --> 01:35:25.360]  what the information is for us. And they will ask those leading questions. You know, when we talk
[01:35:25.360 --> 01:35:31.040]  about leading questions and manipulating people, there's been a lot of reports about artificial
[01:35:31.040 --> 01:35:41.040]  intelligence, people who have particular psychosis or something, and they get involved with the AI
[01:35:41.040 --> 01:35:46.000]  and it starts to confirm the things that they want because that's what it is set up to do in terms of
[01:35:46.000 --> 01:35:52.480]  bias. They want to be empathetic and sympathetic to people. And so it starts doing that and leading
[01:35:52.480 --> 01:35:57.680]  them further and further down a particular rabbit hole. There's been situations of, you know,
[01:35:57.680 --> 01:36:02.640]  people who got into severe mental distress, some suicides of some young children and other things
[01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:09.760]  like that speak to that aspect of it and the real danger of that. That is really kind of, I think,
[01:36:09.760 --> 01:36:15.040]  speaks to the psychological aspect and potential of artificial intelligence. And that could be
[01:36:15.040 --> 01:36:20.880]  weaponized. Right now it's just kind of happening out of their business model, right? But that could
[01:36:20.880 --> 01:36:24.880]  definitely be weaponized against people. Well, I talk about that in my book in the
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[01:36:29.440 --> 01:36:38.720]  suicided right on the Internet live feed, and they've been manipulated to doing that by other
[01:36:38.720 --> 01:36:44.880]  people who've encouraged them, said this would be a sign of strength, this would be a sign of
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[01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:19.520]  got him to do it. Wow. That's amazing. That's amazing. So there's something about the internet
[01:38:19.520 --> 01:38:27.760]  and about, uh, uh, that actually brings out sadistic criminal psychopathic trends. And we
[01:38:27.760 --> 01:38:33.920]  don't know why. Is it the fact that you don't necessarily can't be identified? It's something
[01:38:33.920 --> 01:38:39.600]  that is going to be influencing and has influenced the internet greatly. And it will continue to do
[01:38:39.600 --> 01:38:45.280]  so until we understand it. I think that's one of the things that's so dangerous about the things
[01:38:45.280 --> 01:38:50.800]  that we saw with lockdown and other aspects of it. There, there's an atomization here, uh, and
[01:38:50.800 --> 01:38:56.720]  so many different ways the government and tech and tech companies are trying to make sure that
[01:38:56.720 --> 01:39:01.840]  we don't, we're not in person with each other. You know, many cases like for example, in this
[01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:06.480]  interview, uh, we couldn't do this interview if we both had, if one of both of us had to travel,
[01:39:06.480 --> 01:39:12.800]  uh, we're able to do this because we can do it over zoom or whatever. Uh, but, um, uh, just taking
[01:39:12.800 --> 01:39:19.600]  ordinary things that you would normally do, um, in terms of interacting with people in school or in
[01:39:19.600 --> 01:39:24.240]  church or in your community or whatever, taking that away and putting a screen between the two of
[01:39:24.240 --> 01:39:28.240]  you, it really does change the way people interact with each other. I remember Errol Morris, the film
[01:39:28.240 --> 01:39:33.600]  director, was able to get people to, uh, say all kinds of things to him. He got a murderer to
[01:39:33.600 --> 01:39:40.720]  confess. He got, uh, he got, uh, Robert McNamara to confess to about the false flag of the Vietnam
[01:39:40.720 --> 01:39:44.800]  war. He got people to say all kinds of stuff because there was that distance between him and
[01:39:44.800 --> 01:39:50.000]  them. He could have interviewed them in person, but what he did was he put an interrotron, which
[01:39:50.000 --> 01:39:55.040]  is what he called it. It was basically a teleprompter that he had set up so he could do two-way
[01:39:55.040 --> 01:40:00.800]  communication at the time. And once he had that distance there, then it, it completely changed
[01:40:00.800 --> 01:40:05.760]  the dynamics that he would have, uh, versus with somebody person to person. And that's what we're
[01:40:05.760 --> 01:40:09.760]  talking about here, isn't it? Yeah, we're talking about that. And of course there's
[01:40:09.760 --> 01:40:15.280]  gradations of this and it continues. Like we're, we're, you're interviewing me, we're discussing,
[01:40:15.280 --> 01:40:20.560]  I feel like it's a discussion. Uh, if I were to say something, uh, that later I regretted,
[01:40:20.560 --> 01:40:23.440]  I could probably say, Oh, well, that wasn't me. That was my avatar
[01:40:25.920 --> 01:40:29.760]  or my agent, right? I got an AI agent that's out there.
[01:40:33.040 --> 01:40:39.200]  That's right. It's crazy. We also see though, as a doctor, you're seeing, um, people have noticed
[01:40:39.200 --> 01:40:43.920]  actual physical changes that can be observed in people's brains from I'm thinking of the story
[01:40:43.920 --> 01:40:49.120]  about the London taxi drivers who would do the knowledge and they would find that after they
[01:40:49.120 --> 01:40:55.760]  memorized, uh, all these factual details and, and drew on that all the time in order to take people
[01:40:55.760 --> 01:41:00.960]  to, uh, you know, this very complicated city with its complicated streets, that they had a particular
[01:41:00.960 --> 01:41:06.720]  part of their brain that was larger than, um, uh, the typical person. And then they found that, uh,
[01:41:06.720 --> 01:41:11.120]  once they stopped doing that, it started to shrink again. And we're starting to see that happening
[01:41:11.120 --> 01:41:15.680]  with, uh, people in a lot of different areas of their life, that kind of atrophy and it's
[01:41:15.680 --> 01:41:20.480]  physically observable, isn't it? Well, it is. You have to learn, you have to use
[01:41:21.200 --> 01:41:25.840]  the things that you have learned to do. Like I mentioned in my memory book, there's all kinds
[01:41:25.840 --> 01:41:32.000]  of memory exercises that you can do. I do them every day and they're very easy and they keep,
[01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:38.000]  help you to continue with your, with your memory, uh, to keep it sharp. Give us some examples. I'm
[01:41:38.000 --> 01:41:41.440]  sure everybody would love to know that. We'd all like to have a better memory. What kind of,
[01:41:41.440 --> 01:41:45.440]  what kind of things do we, can we do to exercise? Well, think about the fact that
[01:41:45.440 --> 01:41:52.320]  you never had to learn pictures. When you were an infant and a young child, uh, a picture was
[01:41:52.320 --> 01:41:56.240]  something that you could, you know, may not know what you're looking at, but you could see it
[01:41:56.240 --> 01:42:02.320]  without an intermediary. Press language is something that you have to hear from other people.
[01:42:02.320 --> 01:42:08.080]  It's something that's sort of added on to the brain. Okay. So as a result, the most
[01:42:08.240 --> 01:42:17.680]  best way of remembering something is to make a, uh, uh, image for it. Okay. For instance,
[01:42:17.680 --> 01:42:24.400]  um, I have a little dog called a skipper key. Skipper key is a Belgian dog. He's a nice little
[01:42:24.400 --> 01:42:29.360]  fellow, but it was embarrassing to me when walking the street, people say, what kind of dog is that?
[01:42:29.360 --> 01:42:34.960]  And I couldn't come up with a name because it was such complicated. And I thought that's skipper
[01:42:35.920 --> 01:42:41.520]  key. I didn't speak any Dutch or anything. So then I got this image of a small boat
[01:42:41.520 --> 01:42:49.760]  with a large captain with a beard holding a big key. So it was skipper key. And I remember
[01:42:49.760 --> 01:42:55.120]  forever. So I was going to have the picture. Once I have the picture, it's easy to do. Um,
[01:42:55.120 --> 01:42:59.440]  another way, easy way to do it. And you can do that with all kinds of times, all the time.
[01:42:59.440 --> 01:43:05.280]  I was going upstairs, uh, before I came down to the office and I wanted to get my wallet
[01:43:05.840 --> 01:43:12.960]  and I wanted to get my cell phone. So I just had an image of a wallet in the form of a cell phone.
[01:43:12.960 --> 01:43:18.880]  And I was walking up the stairs, talking into the wallet cell phone. So I got up and I knew I had
[01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:24.720]  these two elements to get be very easy to get one and forget the other. So you have these images
[01:43:24.720 --> 01:43:30.160]  all the time. And the quickest, you know, this is sort of off the topic of the book, but if you
[01:43:30.160 --> 01:43:41.600]  want to have a firepower memory for, um, a load of things, let's up to 10 things and get 10 areas
[01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:48.880]  that you are familiar with that you see every day. And then you could put on those images,
[01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:55.360]  the thing you're trying to remember. So if I'm trying to remember a loaf of bread,
[01:43:57.360 --> 01:44:04.480]  milk, um, maybe a batteries, I have a regular way of doing that. I have, like, I remember my,
[01:44:05.120 --> 01:44:12.960]  the library that's near my home, the, uh, coffee shop, liquor store, Georgetown University medical
[01:44:12.960 --> 01:44:20.000]  school where I went, Georgetown University, uh, cafe Milano, which is a place in Washington,
[01:44:20.000 --> 01:44:28.240]  everybody gathers, and then, um, Key Bridge, Iwo Jima Memorial and, uh, Reagan airport.
[01:44:28.960 --> 01:44:33.440]  So that brand would be, for instance, the loaf of bread. I would look in the window of the library
[01:44:33.440 --> 01:44:39.360]  instead of seeing books, I see bread, loaves of bread. And when I get down to the, to the liquor
[01:44:39.360 --> 01:44:44.480]  store, instead of it being filled with liquor, that'll be milk bottles. So that's how I get to
[01:44:44.480 --> 01:44:50.240]  it. So I have those 10, so I can get 10 items together without any, uh, any problems at all.
[01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:55.680]  That's great. Yeah. I, you know, it's interesting to talk about the, uh, the importance of a
[01:44:55.680 --> 01:45:00.400]  visualization. It's one of the things that I do, um, in terms of preparing for the show,
[01:45:00.400 --> 01:45:05.680]  I have a lot of articles that I go through and it's really when I highlight things or when I
[01:45:05.680 --> 01:45:09.600]  write them down, that's when I can remember them. If I don't do that, if I were just to read these
[01:45:09.600 --> 01:45:14.320]  things, I wouldn't remember them. But if I interact with it and write it down, that helps me to
[01:45:14.320 --> 01:45:20.560]  remember it. So that is a kind of visualization there, I guess, as well. Um, it is, um, it truly
[01:45:20.560 --> 01:45:24.320]  is interesting. And what you said earlier about memory not being something that is stored in a
[01:45:24.320 --> 01:45:29.760]  place as somebody coming from a computer science background, um, that was a very different thing.
[01:45:29.760 --> 01:45:35.120]  When you construct your, your memory, you know, how do you reconstruct that? I mean, that, that,
[01:45:35.120 --> 01:45:40.960]  that as opens up a whole new area of questions as well. In other words, if every time somebody
[01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:46.400]  brings up a subject, I mean, there, there isn't something that's stored initially to reference
[01:45:46.400 --> 01:45:51.920]  that and then rebuild from that. Um, there's that, there's the inner, there's the interconnections.
[01:45:51.920 --> 01:45:56.880]  Like, you know, somebody listening to us might say, well, gee, this is called the 21st century
[01:45:56.880 --> 01:46:00.720]  of brain, but I haven't heard that much about the brain. Well, let me just link that up. So
[01:46:00.800 --> 01:46:06.240]  these things make sense. Um, we have a new version, or I should say a new understanding
[01:46:06.240 --> 01:46:12.320]  of the brain called the connectomic brain in which there's all kinds of interactions
[01:46:12.320 --> 01:46:18.640]  in the brain of parts of the brain, which you don't, we're just learning about. I have the,
[01:46:18.640 --> 01:46:24.560]  I use the metaphor of a bowl of spaghetti. You pull out one of the strains of spaghetti
[01:46:24.560 --> 01:46:30.240]  and you never have any idea what it's connected to. How many other strains of spaghetti this is
[01:46:30.240 --> 01:46:38.400]  connected to. So that's, if you think of the brain as being kind of set to make connections,
[01:46:38.400 --> 01:46:43.920]  that's as natural process. So it gets back to these things that we were talking about earlier,
[01:46:44.480 --> 01:46:49.520]  you know, global warming and memory and surveillance and all that. How are we going
[01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:55.760]  to solve all those? Well, somehow or other, those things are connected with each other.
[01:46:56.720 --> 01:47:04.480]  That's the take home message to this book. And the basic goal is to try to figure out what it is
[01:47:04.480 --> 01:47:12.160]  that connects these things, what it is that would allow us to, uh, to, by solving one of them,
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[01:48:18.320 --> 01:48:25.680]  experts so far haven't done it. So it's useful as Hayek said to get ordinary people
[01:48:25.680 --> 01:48:31.200]  to give, when I say ordinary, I mean, non specialized people to give their ideas.
[01:48:31.280 --> 01:48:36.000]  Do you wonder what such and such would happen? What would happen about global warming for a
[01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:40.880]  while? There was in fact, there's still experiments going on on the effect of sulfur
[01:48:40.880 --> 01:48:49.760]  that would would help the CO2 problem. And, you know, shooting sulfur up into the into the
[01:48:49.760 --> 01:48:57.440]  atmosphere. Of course, the reason for that was the volcano 1980 something in which after that
[01:48:57.440 --> 01:49:05.840]  volcano in Hawaii, it was noted that the air was clearer and it was less pollution. So that's
[01:49:05.840 --> 01:49:11.280]  something to think about. Is there some way of using that particular sulfur experiment to
[01:49:11.920 --> 01:49:18.880]  decrease global warming? War, for instance, we don't think of war as a cause of global warming,
[01:49:18.880 --> 01:49:25.200]  but it is. Oh, yeah. CO2. Thermonuclear warming. Yeah. Yeah. But what upsets the
[01:49:26.640 --> 01:49:33.280]  Ukraine war and the Gaza war, then, you know, tremendous amount that's going to overcome
[01:49:33.840 --> 01:49:37.680]  and exceed the benefit of any of these things like, you know,
[01:49:38.960 --> 01:49:45.520]  non gasoline engines, but using things like that. Absolutely. Yeah, it's kind of like, you know,
[01:49:45.600 --> 01:49:52.160]  shooting up rockets in order to put satellites up, you know, how many, how many cars and lifetime
[01:49:52.160 --> 01:49:56.320]  use of cars from people would that be equivalent to? And then you start talking about all the
[01:49:56.320 --> 01:50:01.920]  missiles that are being shot and then you get to the explosives as well. It is really interesting
[01:50:01.920 --> 01:50:08.880]  how they focus on their objectives for their ways to control it. The manipulation has been going on
[01:50:08.880 --> 01:50:16.320]  for quite some time. And so, yeah, that is, that is pretty amazing. And I guess that's my,
[01:50:16.320 --> 01:50:20.720]  you know, my, my, when you look at this stuff, it really does look like science fiction. And I'm
[01:50:20.720 --> 01:50:25.280]  almost inclined to write it off when I first see it, when DARPA is saying, well, we need to find
[01:50:25.280 --> 01:50:31.440]  some way that we can, you know, erase memories and people and insert new memories into them.
[01:50:31.440 --> 01:50:38.080]  I'm going to go back to total recall, right? So it sounds like something from a Philip K. Dick novel,
[01:50:38.080 --> 01:50:41.760]  but they're really working on that. And I guess one of the most striking things that we saw,
[01:50:41.760 --> 01:50:47.040]  we reported on a couple of weeks ago, and it was a company that was bragging about how
[01:50:47.680 --> 01:50:53.360]  they could read your mind more accurately and quickly than their competitors, because there's
[01:50:53.360 --> 01:50:59.680]  a lot of different companies that are doing this and how they could, it was called Brain IT was
[01:50:59.680 --> 01:51:06.320]  the name of the company. And so they had a way that they would do MRI and they could
[01:51:08.160 --> 01:51:11.920]  essentially train it on your brain in a much shorter period of time than the other people.
[01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:15.120]  And they could get much better results. And our producers just pulled this up.
[01:51:15.120 --> 01:51:19.680]  So what they do is they show you an image and you're looking at that image, and then it's
[01:51:19.680 --> 01:51:24.800]  reading your mind and reconstructing what you're looking at, which I thought was absolutely amazing
[01:51:24.800 --> 01:51:30.240]  and terrifying at the same time. How is this going to be used? I guess that's the real issue.
[01:51:30.240 --> 01:51:35.680]  When we start talking about all these different things, I think that is the real case that it's
[01:51:35.680 --> 01:51:40.480]  difficult for people to understand just how far and how quickly the technology has progressed,
[01:51:41.040 --> 01:51:46.480]  and then to say, and how do we control this from it being used for bad purposes?
[01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:53.280]  Well, that's a specifically 21st century problem, because all of these things have
[01:51:53.280 --> 01:52:00.400]  either originated in the 21st century, or they have in fact, further developed and become
[01:52:00.480 --> 01:52:06.560]  increasingly threatening. And bear in mind, we have to solve these problems because they're not
[01:52:06.560 --> 01:52:11.280]  something that's going to go away. And then the most important thing to remember, David,
[01:52:11.280 --> 01:52:17.760]  is that all of these things harm the brain and the brain is the thinking processor
[01:52:18.400 --> 01:52:24.560]  that's going to save us. It's going to figure out what the solutions to the problems are.
[01:52:24.560 --> 01:52:32.480]  So we know now that wildfire smoke, for instance, it creates dementia, it enhances the likelihood
[01:52:32.480 --> 01:52:39.600]  of somebody becoming dementia. So as the brain is affected negatively, increasingly, over longer
[01:52:39.600 --> 01:52:45.280]  and longer periods of time, our ability to solve these problems is going to decrease. So we've
[01:52:45.280 --> 01:52:50.560]  got to do it now. We've got to get serious about it. And this business of people getting up and
[01:52:50.560 --> 01:52:57.040]  saying that global warming is fiction and all that is really very, very disturbing.
[01:52:58.320 --> 01:53:03.200]  Yeah. Well, you know, the example that you gave earlier of the fact that the Indian government
[01:53:03.200 --> 01:53:08.080]  was manipulating the temperature at some of the stations there, that kind of works both ways.
[01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:14.000]  They have put some of these temperature stations on the airport tarmacs. And in the UK, they have
[01:53:14.800 --> 01:53:18.640]  a lot of the temperature stations that they've got there. They're just extrapolating the data.
[01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:23.200]  They don't have real temperature measurement stations there. So it all really gets back,
[01:53:23.200 --> 01:53:27.840]  I think, to the scientific method. And that's really where we have to hold people's feet to
[01:53:27.840 --> 01:53:32.320]  the fire. We're talking about something like that. We can have an absolute standard of what
[01:53:32.320 --> 01:53:38.000]  truth is. And that truth is going to be being able to measure something accurately and being
[01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:43.440]  able to reproduce that. And then I think a good yardstick for that is when somebody is trying to
[01:53:43.440 --> 01:53:48.960]  hide their data, that's the clue right there that they're not doing science because if they're
[01:53:48.960 --> 01:53:53.440]  doing science and they've come to the right conclusion, they don't have a problem with
[01:53:53.440 --> 01:53:59.040]  somebody looking at their data. And so I've got a question here for you from a person in the
[01:53:59.040 --> 01:54:05.280]  audience asking if you know about Drs. James Giordano and Charles Morgan and their work with
[01:54:05.280 --> 01:54:09.200]  military. I'm not familiar with those names. I don't know if you know anything about that or not.
[01:54:09.920 --> 01:54:15.440]  The Giordano says familiar. What particular thing are they asking about them?
[01:54:15.440 --> 01:54:18.160]  I don't know. It just says their work with military. I guess it would have to do with
[01:54:18.160 --> 01:54:20.640]  something. But you haven't heard of it? I'm not sure.
[01:54:21.360 --> 01:54:24.960]  I could say Giordano did this or did that. No.
[01:54:24.960 --> 01:54:30.240]  Sure. I understand. Yeah. Let's talk a little bit about the things that we have been anxious
[01:54:30.240 --> 01:54:35.600]  about. And of course, as Christians, we have one answer to it. But you talk about how this
[01:54:35.600 --> 01:54:42.720]  is something that has been around pretty much all of our life. I grew up with anxiety about
[01:54:42.720 --> 01:54:49.920]  nuclear war, for example. That was on everybody's television and that was forefront of our minds,
[01:54:49.920 --> 01:54:54.640]  especially growing up in Florida when the Cuban Missile Crisis was happening. They got us really
[01:54:54.640 --> 01:54:58.160]  afraid of that when I was in elementary school. It's like there's not going to be enough time
[01:54:58.160 --> 01:55:04.000]  for you to get home when the nuclear bombs start falling. And so there's all these different ways
[01:55:04.000 --> 01:55:09.280]  that you can panic people. I guess part of it is how do we identify the real problems
[01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:15.600]  and how do we deal with those problems? Because there's always things that are competing
[01:55:16.240 --> 01:55:21.600]  for our attention and our anxiety, many of which are not real. And usually the things
[01:55:21.600 --> 01:55:26.240]  that you're really the most concerned about don't happen. And it may be sometimes because
[01:55:26.240 --> 01:55:30.800]  you have taken a precaution about it. What would you say about that, about anxiety?
[01:55:34.640 --> 01:55:38.800]  You're starting to break up a little bit. Can you hear me clearly?
[01:55:38.800 --> 01:55:42.640]  I hear you. Yes. Yes. Sorry about that. You're talking about breaking up a little bit.
[01:55:43.280 --> 01:55:49.440]  You're talking about traumatizing a population. What do we do to guard against that type of thing?
[01:55:49.440 --> 01:55:55.840]  And of course, that's going to really escalate with the ability of AI to create a narrative.
[01:55:55.840 --> 01:56:04.240]  Yeah. Well, let's talk about it as an avenue to get into that. Let's go back to what you brought
[01:56:04.240 --> 01:56:10.080]  about the atomic weapons and the atomic war and the fears of the people that there's going to be
[01:56:10.080 --> 01:56:16.640]  another atomic war. I mean, you know, this is not unrealistic. There's even been a move has just
[01:56:16.640 --> 01:56:22.720]  come out that's getting all kinds of attention, as you know, and it has to do with the threat of a
[01:56:22.720 --> 01:56:30.960]  nuclear war. If you look at what's happening in Europe right now, there's all kinds of suggestions
[01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:36.640]  that could lead to a nuclear war. I mean, Ukraine now has announced that they're under no conditions
[01:56:36.640 --> 01:56:44.240]  willing to give up any land. And Stalin is, I mean, Putin is thinking what he can do to change that.
[01:56:44.240 --> 01:56:50.800]  But maybe he'll attack another country. I mean, this is scary stuff. So what's happening in
[01:56:50.800 --> 01:56:56.320]  response to the government is to try to show that, oh, we shouldn't worry about it. We have
[01:56:56.320 --> 01:57:03.520]  things under control, but I don't think things are under control. And we've talked about the
[01:57:03.520 --> 01:57:09.280]  problems and we talked about problems. You have your final chapter is new ways of thinking.
[01:57:09.920 --> 01:57:16.320]  And I'd like to talk about that. One of the things that you say is Ockham was wrong. Ockham's razor
[01:57:16.320 --> 01:57:20.560]  that, you know, people are familiar with. Tell us a little bit about that. Why does Ockham wrong?
[01:57:22.480 --> 01:57:27.600]  Well, because he says that, you know, the entities are not to be multiplied, meaning that we can
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[01:58:34.000 --> 01:58:39.840]  One. One cause of every fact. That's not true. It's certainly not true in the 21st century,
[01:58:39.840 --> 01:58:47.200]  where there's all kinds of interactions between factors and causes. So that Ockham was wrong in
[01:58:47.200 --> 01:58:52.960]  that basis. We have to think of an interconnecting pool, just as in the brain of interconnections of
[01:58:52.960 --> 01:58:57.760]  neurons, interconnections of these problems. And they're all related. They're all related.
[01:58:57.760 --> 01:59:02.880]  All eight of them that I talk about in my book, they're all related. And if you can figure a way
[01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:08.880]  of influencing one, you influence all the others. I mean, who would think there'd be a connection
[01:59:08.880 --> 01:59:16.560]  between global warming and the amount of partisan and cheese, for instance, high end cheese? Well,
[01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:22.160]  there is because chickens don't lay many eggs and there'd be all these various other things
[01:59:22.400 --> 01:59:29.200]  to come on in terms of making cheese. I learned that the other day. That was something that was
[01:59:29.200 --> 01:59:33.520]  a surprise to me. You know, it's kind of interesting when you talk about connections so much. There was
[01:59:33.520 --> 01:59:38.160]  a series that was on, I think it was on PBS. I think the guy's name was Burke. I can't remember
[01:59:38.160 --> 01:59:43.600]  his first name. I'm not sure about the last name, but he had a series called Connections. And I
[01:59:43.600 --> 01:59:48.960]  thought it was fascinating because what he would do is he would take a whole series of connections
[01:59:48.960 --> 01:59:55.440]  to show how a particular technology had evolved. So he might go from the quill to the
[01:59:56.560 --> 02:00:03.040]  jet engine or something like that. And it was a fascinating thread of things. It's very much
[02:00:03.040 --> 02:00:10.640]  like what you're talking about. It really is. And I did consult his work, actually.
[02:00:10.640 --> 02:00:15.840]  Did you? I was writing this book because he did that Connections. He did a book called The Day
[02:00:15.840 --> 02:00:21.440]  the World Changed and all this. He also did a book called Circles, in which he would start with one
[02:00:21.440 --> 02:00:26.640]  particular event that occurred in history. And if you go around the circle, you come back
[02:00:27.200 --> 02:00:32.320]  to the beginning where it started, where this particular inventor invented something. What
[02:00:32.320 --> 02:00:37.680]  led up to it? What was the circle leading to that? So yes, we're talking about connections
[02:00:37.680 --> 02:00:44.480]  and we're talking about the inability to understand things without reference to supporting and
[02:00:44.480 --> 02:00:49.920]  accessory factors. We have that going on all the time, denying things that are going to be
[02:00:49.920 --> 02:00:55.760]  happening. And of course, I think the fearful thing is that the government is aiding in this denial
[02:00:56.880 --> 02:01:02.720]  because if you deny that there's a problem, then there's very little impetus to try to solve it.
[02:01:03.680 --> 02:01:07.680]  You know, if there ain't no problem, don't try to solve it.
[02:01:08.640 --> 02:01:14.880]  They're throwing out their own chaos and uncertainty and anxiety that's out there all
[02:01:14.880 --> 02:01:21.520]  the time, always, I guess. So the question is, she's talking about volatility, uncertainty,
[02:01:21.520 --> 02:01:26.240]  complexity, and ambiguity. I mean, that sounds like a government policy. I think they've got
[02:01:26.240 --> 02:01:32.240]  bureaucracies that specialize in that. Yeah. Well, actually, that's true.
[02:01:32.240 --> 02:01:36.640]  Yeah. That's in your section there about new ways of thinking. And so how do we incorporate that
[02:01:37.280 --> 02:01:40.480]  into new ways of thinking that help us to solve this riddle?
[02:01:42.320 --> 02:01:50.400]  Well, each of those factors is a factor that helps you to understand things and to have more
[02:01:50.400 --> 02:01:54.880]  control. It doesn't necessarily mean it helps you to link them together. That has to be done by
[02:01:54.880 --> 02:02:00.960]  original thinking. You have to be, you know, under those things, things evolve. Well, you don't have
[02:02:00.960 --> 02:02:08.720]  a basic situation that doesn't change. It changes all the time. So the other thing that I want to
[02:02:08.720 --> 02:02:16.560]  emphasize the most is the role of capitalism in all of this. I mean, there's all this, like the
[02:02:16.560 --> 02:02:23.440]  private equity, the business of people having a point of view that is going to advance them
[02:02:24.400 --> 02:02:30.960]  financially and that blinding them to the problems that are here. Like, for instance,
[02:02:30.960 --> 02:02:35.840]  we talked about global warming. Well, the rich people, the very rich people, are buying
[02:02:35.840 --> 02:02:43.120]  multimillion dollar apartments and condominiums, which have special air filters, which will keep
[02:02:43.120 --> 02:02:51.920]  wildfire smoke out and will try to keep the global warming effect at bay by super power
[02:02:54.240 --> 02:03:00.320]  air conditioners. Of course, they're building their own bunkers too. They're building things
[02:03:00.320 --> 02:03:07.760]  that are creating all kinds of chaos and weapons of war, mass destruction. They're building super
[02:03:07.760 --> 02:03:12.240]  bunkers in various places as well. So I think they're somewhat pessimistic about what they're
[02:03:12.240 --> 02:03:18.400]  doing. Well, it's basically the idea is that, you know, we don't care about the ordinary person.
[02:03:18.400 --> 02:03:23.440]  We're going to survive. We're going to see to our own survival. And in order to do that,
[02:03:23.440 --> 02:03:29.440]  we have to deny certain things that are going on. We'll do so. Now, incidentally, all of this is not
[02:03:29.440 --> 02:03:35.680]  conscious thinking. They don't necessarily say, well, I'm going to deny global warming because
[02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:42.320]  it'll be to my advantage financially because all my investment is in the oil and gas industry.
[02:03:42.800 --> 02:03:48.880]  They don't do it that way. They come up with pseudo logic, things that seem to make sense to them.
[02:03:48.880 --> 02:03:55.120]  But if they didn't have a financial thrust in the matter, they would look out upon it quite
[02:03:55.120 --> 02:03:59.200]  differently. That's right. We can always find a justification for what it was, what it is that we
[02:03:59.200 --> 02:04:04.240]  really want. Everybody should understand that if you're a parent this time of year at Christmas
[02:04:04.240 --> 02:04:08.720]  time, you can always understand that people will come up with a justification for what they want.
[02:04:08.720 --> 02:04:13.520]  And that's as true of a government as it is of corporations out there. And it's really dangerous
[02:04:13.520 --> 02:04:16.960]  when the two of them connect with each other. I think that's one of the things, you know,
[02:04:16.960 --> 02:04:21.760]  you talk about connections and the importance of it and how we can try to connect these different
[02:04:21.760 --> 02:04:26.880]  factors, each of us individually. But I think it's the human connection that is out there,
[02:04:26.880 --> 02:04:30.960]  that is going to be essential for all of this. It's going to be our collective
[02:04:31.840 --> 02:04:34.960]  work on all this. What do you think about that? Would you agree with that?
[02:04:34.960 --> 02:04:40.400]  Well, I'd agree with it. But there's so many things that are taking place now that are
[02:04:40.400 --> 02:04:49.120]  causing the schisms and splitting people into factors and belief systems and political points
[02:04:49.120 --> 02:04:54.320]  of view. And that's very dangerous because then you can't get together any kind of unity,
[02:04:55.200 --> 02:05:00.480]  even in the face of an emergency. Well, I think we've always had these
[02:05:00.480 --> 02:05:04.720]  factor, you know, factions and things like that. You know, the founders of the country warned about
[02:05:04.720 --> 02:05:09.600]  factions and political parties. But I think what makes it unique is that when you're interacting
[02:05:09.600 --> 02:05:15.280]  with people on a personal basis, you interact with them a little bit differently than if you've got
[02:05:15.280 --> 02:05:20.400]  that separation between you that technology is giving us now. Because now you're interacting
[02:05:20.400 --> 02:05:25.120]  with something that's abstract, it's not with another person. And there's also the body language
[02:05:25.120 --> 02:05:29.840]  that you're not picking up on. But it makes it easier for you to be harder on people when there's
[02:05:29.840 --> 02:05:34.160]  that distance there, I think. That's why I think, you know, the personal connection,
[02:05:34.160 --> 02:05:39.520]  I think, is really vital to making these connections and coming up with an understanding
[02:05:39.520 --> 02:05:44.000]  of what's going on. We talk about the hidden factors that are out there, hidden unrelated
[02:05:44.000 --> 02:05:49.360]  topics. Other people, as you pointed out earlier, just talking to ordinary people about what it is
[02:05:49.360 --> 02:05:54.800]  that you see with different things. I think that is the genius of the collective free market out
[02:05:54.800 --> 02:06:01.440]  there, that there's so many observers who are looking at things and thinking about them.
[02:06:01.440 --> 02:06:06.960]  And it's kind of their collective decision that is kind of guiding things along, as opposed to
[02:06:06.960 --> 02:06:12.800]  having a central planner who's doing that. What do you think about that? You've got in your final
[02:06:12.800 --> 02:06:19.040]  chapter, a new way of thinking, you have what you call a sensible solution. What does that really
[02:06:19.120 --> 02:06:25.680]  involve? I'm sorry, I didn't hear what you said. What's the last part? You have a sensible solution.
[02:06:25.680 --> 02:06:32.800]  What do you think a sensible solution to the kind of stress and chaos and anxiety that we have,
[02:06:32.800 --> 02:06:37.360]  manipulation that we have? What is the solution to that? Well, I think the Wikipedia is a good
[02:06:37.360 --> 02:06:42.880]  example of that. They have people from all walks of life, all levels of education,
[02:06:42.880 --> 02:06:50.320]  and free to contribute to whatever topic they may want to do that. It may be health. I mentioned
[02:06:50.320 --> 02:06:57.840]  earlier about the effect of global warming on the making of cheese. There might be somebody who makes
[02:06:57.840 --> 02:07:02.640]  cheese that's going to come up with some idea. You know, we don't know that. We don't know that
[02:07:02.640 --> 02:07:08.320]  that may not be where comes some original idea about what to do about global warming. And you
[02:07:08.320 --> 02:07:14.160]  put it on what I'd like to think, and I hope it will be developed, a kind of Wikipedia where the
[02:07:14.160 --> 02:07:19.920]  ordinary person can feel free to put forth their ideas about it. Now, you say, well, we already
[02:07:19.920 --> 02:07:26.320]  have that. We have the internet. No, we don't. The internet is a commercial situation. It's all done
[02:07:26.320 --> 02:07:32.400]  for making money and grab attention and all that. And there's no criticism on it. There's no pure
[02:07:32.400 --> 02:07:37.200]  review, if you will. Whereas in the Wikipedia, I mean, you know, people get right in and say,
[02:07:37.200 --> 02:07:42.640]  well, that particular contribution is bonkers. And then give an example why it is, or that was
[02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:49.840]  a very good idea. And after that, you begin to get things coming together in unpredictable ways
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[02:08:49.360 --> 02:08:58.240]  You know, the problem is, it seems like whenever you wind up having a form or a place where
[02:08:58.240 --> 02:09:02.320]  things can be, and that's true of the internet, it's also true of Wikipedia, then it becomes,
[02:09:02.320 --> 02:09:09.280]  you have gatekeepers who are there. And we saw this in spades throughout the COVID stuff that
[02:09:09.280 --> 02:09:16.400]  if somebody's got a different idea, rather than debate them, the impetus is to silence them by
[02:09:16.400 --> 02:09:22.400]  the people who are in authority. And so that really, I think, is the key thing. And I think
[02:09:22.400 --> 02:09:33.840]  as part of that, we see a continuing rise in disgust and deprivation of free speech. People
[02:09:33.840 --> 02:09:38.560]  are not interested in the principle of free speech. They don't want to have open debate.
[02:09:38.560 --> 02:09:42.800]  And I see this regardless of where people are coming from on the political spectrum.
[02:09:42.800 --> 02:09:50.560]  There is a declining interest in debate and thinking. The debate is critical to critical
[02:09:50.560 --> 02:09:56.320]  thinking. And so the people who are in charge, the gatekeepers, whether it's Wikipedia or the
[02:09:56.320 --> 02:10:03.280]  internet or any other form of information, they are weighing in on that. And they don't want
[02:10:03.280 --> 02:10:07.360]  things that they disagree with. And it might be because they've got an agenda or it might
[02:10:07.360 --> 02:10:11.680]  be because they've just got a particular prejudice about something. They want to
[02:10:12.400 --> 02:10:19.280]  make sure that the contrary views don't get out there. That I think is the real key that's there.
[02:10:19.280 --> 02:10:25.840]  And again, this is part of this atomization that we have of people feeding that tribalism in a way
[02:10:25.840 --> 02:10:30.800]  that we've never seen it before using technology. I would agree with everything you've just said.
[02:10:30.800 --> 02:10:38.400]  Exactly. And I think we have to try to get beyond that. But we get back again to this business of
[02:10:38.400 --> 02:10:45.520]  people having their own personal financial point of view and position and pushing that
[02:10:46.240 --> 02:10:51.680]  basically on the fact that they look upon it as so maybe we're talking about a capitalism problem.
[02:10:52.880 --> 02:10:56.800]  We've got capitalism. That's what this country is all about. But I mean, it's in certain parts of
[02:10:56.800 --> 02:11:02.320]  it now. We've gotten to the point where people are unable to take another point of view if it's
[02:11:02.320 --> 02:11:09.680]  going to be financially harmful and hurtful to them. Yeah. I think that, you know, we start
[02:11:09.680 --> 02:11:13.920]  looking at the tech companies. I don't think that their capitalism would exist. I don't think they'd
[02:11:13.920 --> 02:11:19.920]  have billions of dollars if they weren't unified with the government. So there's a symbiosis there
[02:11:19.920 --> 02:11:27.040]  that the two of these entities feed off of each other. And I think that that nexus right there is
[02:11:27.040 --> 02:11:33.600]  the difficult thing. And so I think, you know, when I think of capitalism, I don't like to
[02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:39.120]  refer to capitalism anymore because I think of it as a partnership, a public-private partnership,
[02:11:39.120 --> 02:11:44.640]  some kind of an economic fascism where they are working together. But I like to think of a free
[02:11:44.640 --> 02:11:49.760]  competitive market where the government doesn't have any role except as some kind of a referee
[02:11:49.760 --> 02:11:54.800]  between two parties that have a conflict or something. But yeah, that's the thing that's
[02:11:54.800 --> 02:11:58.320]  really driving this. You know, many people, when they talk about AI, they said, well, you know,
[02:11:58.320 --> 02:12:02.560]  here's a couple of different outcomes. Maybe this stuff really works the way it's supposed to work
[02:12:02.560 --> 02:12:07.120]  and takes everybody's jobs and we wind up with a depression. Or maybe it doesn't work at all,
[02:12:07.120 --> 02:12:12.640]  in which case the big AI stock bubble that we've got bursts and everybody loses their job because
[02:12:12.640 --> 02:12:17.920]  of that. And so there's a third alternative, and that is that the government keeps propping it up
[02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:25.840]  with public funds because it feeds their surveillance and manipulation needs, their
[02:12:25.840 --> 02:12:31.760]  ability to surveil and to control us. And I really think that that's where this is all going to head.
[02:12:31.760 --> 02:12:36.080]  I don't really, you know, those other two things may happen and they may be true, but I think
[02:12:36.080 --> 02:12:41.760]  there is a customer out there for the AI stuff that is driving all this stuff that has been
[02:12:41.760 --> 02:12:45.360]  putting out these proposals for the longest time. And that's governments, governments around the
[02:12:45.360 --> 02:12:50.080]  world. I mean, we look at the brain project that we had a few years ago. That was during
[02:12:50.080 --> 02:12:55.840]  the Obama administration, but things like the brain computer interface that Elon Musk and many
[02:12:55.840 --> 02:13:01.040]  other tech companies are doing out there. There's Neuralink and there's a lot of them that are doing
[02:13:01.040 --> 02:13:07.840]  that. That's being driven by the government wanting to connect into our minds, hack into our minds,
[02:13:07.840 --> 02:13:12.000]  really. And they've been funding that kind of stuff. So how do we, how do we break that?
[02:13:12.000 --> 02:13:17.520]  Yeah. On the Musk side, it's he's doing it for money. I mean, obviously to make money.
[02:13:17.520 --> 02:13:22.400]  That's right. So that there's an unholy alliance, if you will, between someone who's
[02:13:22.400 --> 02:13:26.720]  can't see anything other than the dollar and another side, the government can't see anything
[02:13:26.720 --> 02:13:32.320]  other than increasing power and surveillance over the population. Yeah, that's right. Absolutely
[02:13:32.320 --> 02:13:38.000]  true. Well, it's a fascinating book. It's fascinating take on this. And of course, you've
[02:13:38.000 --> 02:13:44.400]  written many books on the brain, the memory one, very interesting. And you do have sections about
[02:13:44.400 --> 02:13:50.320]  memory in this book as well. And people be able to find this on Amazon, I guess is the best place
[02:13:50.320 --> 02:13:58.000]  that they can find it, looking for the title of this. And it is, you know, it is something that
[02:13:58.560 --> 02:14:04.720]  I think we all need to think about how we're going to operate the effects that this technology is
[02:14:04.720 --> 02:14:09.920]  having on our brains in the 21st century. And that is the title of the book, The 21st Century Brain
[02:14:10.720 --> 02:14:15.760]  by Richard Restak. Thank you very much, Dr. Restak. Thank you. Appreciate you coming on.
[02:14:15.760 --> 02:14:19.520]  Good day. I enjoyed it very much. Thank you. Very interesting conversation. Thank you. Have
[02:14:19.520 --> 02:14:24.320]  a good day. Folks, we're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.
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[02:16:30.640 --> 02:16:35.760]  All right, welcome back. And joining us now is Wayne Morrow. He is the CEO of the John Birch Society.
[02:16:36.480 --> 02:16:43.680]  And he's got something I think is very interesting to talk about. And that is Fabian socialism.
[02:16:44.240 --> 02:16:49.280]  You probably heard this term before, but maybe you don't understand what it is or the difference
[02:16:49.280 --> 02:16:56.160]  between it and the Marx and Karl Marx's approach, and how much more dangerous it is. You know, for
[02:16:56.160 --> 02:17:04.080]  me growing up, Fabian was a teen idol. And I saw Fabian socialism is like, what is that, you know,
[02:17:04.080 --> 02:17:13.120]  but actually he was a famous Roman general. And the and I guess Fabian's parents were Italian,
[02:17:13.120 --> 02:17:18.160]  and I guess maybe that was the namesake or they might have been socialist. I don't know. But
[02:17:18.880 --> 02:17:23.920]  anyway, it is, it is important to understand the distinction because they have very different
[02:17:23.920 --> 02:17:29.520]  tactics that they use to achieve the same totalitarian goals. So joining us now is
[02:17:29.520 --> 02:17:33.280]  Wayne Morrow, CEO of the John Birch Society. Thank you for joining us, sir.
[02:17:33.280 --> 02:17:39.680]  Thank you, David. Appreciate being here. And yeah, it's Fabian's much like the Council on
[02:17:39.680 --> 02:17:44.320]  Foreign Relations, very little known about people in their respective countries. It's
[02:17:44.320 --> 02:17:49.040]  sort of that secretive behind the scenes group, you know, that's part of the plan, you know.
[02:17:49.040 --> 02:17:53.280]  And you mentioned, you told me just as we were talking here, just before you came on, how you,
[02:17:53.280 --> 02:17:58.000]  there is also a book that the John Birch Society sells called the Fabian Freeway.
[02:17:58.000 --> 02:17:58.800]  Yes, exactly.
[02:17:58.800 --> 02:18:00.400]  Very in depth book. Yeah.
[02:18:00.960 --> 02:18:05.840]  Yeah, it's a book we written past and we republished it. We have our own publishing company
[02:18:05.840 --> 02:18:11.280]  called the Western Islands. And the Fabian Freeway is a book about the genesis of the Fabians
[02:18:11.840 --> 02:18:17.200]  and how we impacted our, even our US policies and our foreign policies. It all ties together,
[02:18:17.200 --> 02:18:22.960]  but it's a real good book and it's over about 600 pages. So it's not a quick read, but it's
[02:18:22.960 --> 02:18:28.000]  in depth. And I think it's for people who are serious students about history and what goes
[02:18:28.000 --> 02:18:33.120]  on today. Surely I call, we're the top of the puzzle box, you know, now we understand what
[02:18:33.120 --> 02:18:36.640]  goes on. That's right. That's right. But tell us a little bit about us,
[02:18:36.640 --> 02:18:41.520]  about Fabian socialism. You know, what was it about that general that they liked and how does
[02:18:41.520 --> 02:18:45.600]  that tell us about their tactics and how is it different from Marxism?
[02:18:46.560 --> 02:18:51.360]  Well, that's a good question. Well, anyway, the genesis is, as you mentioned, Quintus Fabius
[02:18:51.360 --> 02:18:58.720]  Maximus. He was a Roman general, very slow moving. He was very, you know, quiet, but he was
[02:18:59.200 --> 02:19:06.720]  slow and unforceful. And much like the Fabians took his name because that's the process they want,
[02:19:06.720 --> 02:19:11.920]  you know, their moniker originally was a wolf in sheep's clothing and that didn't work over
[02:19:11.920 --> 02:19:16.480]  too well. Look at that one now for a while. And they said, now we'll go switch to a turtle.
[02:19:18.000 --> 02:19:20.640]  The Republicans and Democrats could use that imagery as well,
[02:19:20.640 --> 02:19:24.720]  instead of a donkey and an elephant, they could have a wolf in a sheep's clothing for both of them.
[02:19:25.520 --> 02:19:28.880]  They had to change their moniker because it wasn't going over well. But, you know,
[02:19:28.880 --> 02:19:35.680]  if you go back to the genesis of it all, Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner were involved in forming
[02:19:35.680 --> 02:19:42.000]  this elite group. And George Bernard Shaw was certainly one of the members and the web,
[02:19:42.000 --> 02:19:47.760]  Sidney Webb and all. And, you know, they were very open about socialism. And, you know,
[02:19:48.160 --> 02:19:55.120]  their dispute they had between Marx and themselves was they wanted to believe in
[02:19:55.120 --> 02:20:04.560]  the more the ethical, slow moving educational route versus violence. And so that was their goal.
[02:20:05.760 --> 02:20:11.440]  So, you know, they formed, you know, the London School of Economics. And out of that school,
[02:20:11.760 --> 02:20:19.680]  they put in place various key legislators in government and even in institutions around the
[02:20:19.680 --> 02:20:26.960]  UK. And they knew that by influencing public policy, it didn't make any difference who was
[02:20:26.960 --> 02:20:31.680]  the elected official, because they were setting the policy. They do that today, as a matter of
[02:20:31.680 --> 02:20:38.960]  fact. And so George Bernard Shaw was also very large on eugenics. Matter of fact, I don't have
[02:20:38.960 --> 02:20:44.000]  that video clip, but if you can listen to the audio clip, he talks about once every five years,
[02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:48.000]  listen to this one, we'd have to stand in front of this board to determine if we should be
[02:20:48.640 --> 02:20:54.880]  worthy of staying alive or not. He actually said that, you know. So he's going to go imagine that.
[02:20:54.880 --> 02:20:58.560]  Just destroyed my appreciation of my fair lady, right?
[02:20:59.520 --> 02:21:03.280]  Can you imagine? You can listen to it now. Don't believe me? You can look them up. You can listen
[02:21:03.440 --> 02:21:10.560]  to the audio clip. It's amazing. And, you know, and so every prime minister, every Labour Party
[02:21:10.560 --> 02:21:19.120]  member of the UK is part of, is a Fabian. And so the Fabian's goal is, is always has been,
[02:21:19.840 --> 02:21:25.520]  as we call it, socialism with a slow walk to Marxism. And what they want to do is govern
[02:21:25.520 --> 02:21:31.440]  every aspect of your life and force globalism. So as you see now today with Keir Starmer,
[02:21:31.440 --> 02:21:36.720]  who by the way is a Fabian, as well as the mayor of London, you're watching it happen,
[02:21:37.280 --> 02:21:43.920]  the country being destroyed. And I have podcasts with folks in London and I tell them,
[02:21:44.640 --> 02:21:51.840]  this is all to Q. This is exactly what the plan is to destroy their heritage, their history,
[02:21:51.840 --> 02:21:57.920]  to bring in usher in world government. Now, when you say, when you say they're Fabians,
[02:21:58.880 --> 02:22:03.440]  is there still an organization that they belong as an active member, like somebody would belong
[02:22:03.440 --> 02:22:09.200]  to the John Birch Society? So they actually have the Fabian Society there? Yeah. Yeah. Tony Blair
[02:22:09.200 --> 02:22:15.440]  is a member of the Fabians, you know, he's very active with it, by the way, you know, with the
[02:22:15.440 --> 02:22:20.480]  World Economic Forum. Interesting. But if you go online, you can look up the Fabian Society. They
[02:22:20.480 --> 02:22:25.760]  have organization in Australia, they're young Fabians, you know, but they exist. I mean,
[02:22:25.840 --> 02:22:32.160]  they exist today. And when I speak to the British, very few really understand the Fabians.
[02:22:32.720 --> 02:22:36.960]  Liz Trust, I met Liz Trust, the past prime minister, I was at a CEO conference,
[02:22:37.520 --> 02:22:43.200]  and I gave her my card and I said, I'll send you a copy of the Fabian freeway. Now she's actively
[02:22:43.200 --> 02:22:48.640]  doing YouTube phenomenon. It's not because they said you never mentioned the Fabians, Liz. But,
[02:22:48.640 --> 02:22:55.280]  you know, I think she knew exactly what they were. But the whole thing was David back in
[02:22:55.280 --> 02:23:02.400]  Woodrow Wilson's days, when he actually worked with Colonel Mandel House, another globalist,
[02:23:02.400 --> 02:23:06.640]  they formed this thing called the Inquiry. And the Inquiry was a group of men,
[02:23:06.640 --> 02:23:12.160]  we're British and US, and they've they disguise how we how are we going to work together
[02:23:12.160 --> 02:23:17.440]  and kind of really conquer the world as far as a political agenda, and then eventually total.
[02:23:18.000 --> 02:23:23.600]  And so that was a genesis of the Council on Foreign Relations. So the Council on Foreign
[02:23:23.600 --> 02:23:29.680]  Relations, which is housed in New York City, they and the Fabians work together as we speak today
[02:23:30.720 --> 02:23:36.000]  and setting governance and policy. And they do that regardless what the elections look like.
[02:23:36.640 --> 02:23:41.840]  They're behind the scenes doing foreign policy. And that's why we always look at each other.
[02:23:41.840 --> 02:23:47.680]  Why doesn't everything change? Well, that's because behind the scenes, the same folks have
[02:23:47.680 --> 02:23:53.040]  been working the agenda. That's what's going on. And we have to bring the light to the UK people,
[02:23:53.040 --> 02:23:59.440]  as well as the United States, that this group, these groups are hard at work directing our
[02:23:59.440 --> 02:24:04.800]  foreign policy, but our future. It is for world government. It's nothing to do with freedom.
[02:24:04.800 --> 02:24:10.640]  And our job at the Bird Society is through education to make people aware of who they are.
[02:24:10.640 --> 02:24:15.600]  So we know what to do. It's not mystical. It's not magical. It's not a beauty contest when you
[02:24:15.600 --> 02:24:21.840]  elect somebody. But we have to know the threats are real. And we see it today. Yes. It sounds
[02:24:21.840 --> 02:24:26.720]  very much like Antonio Gramsci, the father of the Italian Communist Party's strategy,
[02:24:27.360 --> 02:24:32.800]  where he wanted to march through the institutions. How is it different than Gramsci's communism?
[02:24:33.680 --> 02:24:40.160]  And I mentioned Antonio Gramsci because Pete Buttigieg is what I call him because he's very
[02:24:40.160 --> 02:24:45.600]  proud of that. But his father spent his entire career at Notre Dame. That was really his
[02:24:45.600 --> 02:24:51.520]  specialty, Antonio Gramsci. And he had him go to Harvard, where he studied under
[02:24:52.960 --> 02:25:00.160]  Sokvan Berkovich, who was also very much a fan of Italian communism. He changed his name
[02:25:00.160 --> 02:25:09.040]  to honor Sokko and Vanzetti. And so, you know, I've learned something about Antonio Gramsci
[02:25:09.040 --> 02:25:12.960]  because of Buttigieg, but I also called him Buttimarks because that's really where they're
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[02:26:21.600 --> 02:26:28.560]  predominantly English and American, kind of Anglo? Yeah. Well, Gramsci was involved as an Italian.
[02:26:28.560 --> 02:26:36.000]  He's from Sardinia and he grew up in that area of farm. He watched the farmer owners take advantage
[02:26:36.000 --> 02:26:41.760]  of the farmer workers. He actually has a book called, David, called the Gramsci papers, prison
[02:26:41.760 --> 02:26:46.800]  papers. And that's about this thing I have behind me in my library. And it was written on toilet
[02:26:46.800 --> 02:26:55.440]  paper, by the way. And he passed it to his sister. And it became the Gramsci papers, the prison
[02:26:55.440 --> 02:27:02.960]  papers. And Gramsci was a threat to the Nazis in Germany. And that's why it was called the Frankfurt
[02:27:02.960 --> 02:27:07.200]  School. And Hitler tossed them out of the United States. They ended up in Columbia University.
[02:27:08.000 --> 02:27:17.520]  And so the goal then was then to indoctrinate and reduce the morality of young college students
[02:27:17.520 --> 02:27:21.440]  and shove down their throats socialism, communism. So now we have the professors
[02:27:22.880 --> 02:27:28.960]  from various institutions in the country. Remember that then the 60s about the hippie
[02:27:28.960 --> 02:27:33.120]  move and all that was all coming from the Frankfurt School through Columbia University
[02:27:33.120 --> 02:27:39.360]  destroyed. They knew they had this way. Gramsci said, David, I can't we can't destroy the United
[02:27:39.360 --> 02:27:45.600]  States or Western societies. We talked to it economically. That's hard. Yeah. We have to
[02:27:45.600 --> 02:27:50.720]  change them morally because if we could do that, we could destroy the morality because that's the
[02:27:50.720 --> 02:27:56.160]  glue that holds them together. Then we can destroy them. And that's what that's the whole story with
[02:27:56.160 --> 02:28:00.720]  the Frankfurt School, which ended up at Columbia University. If you think about it, where we are
[02:28:00.720 --> 02:28:04.880]  back in the forties to where today you could see the morality of the United States going the other
[02:28:04.880 --> 02:28:09.440]  direction. And that's all according to plan. And that's why they got so heavily involved in
[02:28:09.440 --> 02:28:14.000]  Hollywood and the entertainment business as well. Absolutely correct. And that's what happened. So
[02:28:14.000 --> 02:28:20.480]  they knew that's exactly one of the key points that makes the United States and Western civilization
[02:28:20.480 --> 02:28:26.080]  so strong is our moral behavior and our beliefs. So that's what we see today. But that's the
[02:28:26.080 --> 02:28:31.280]  difference between the two. And so they're Marxist, but they use that social element.
[02:28:31.280 --> 02:28:36.080]  They said Karl Marx wasn't right. He thought economics was the only way. No, we're going to
[02:28:36.080 --> 02:28:40.240]  have to do the moral end of it. So that's they morphed it into another strategy. But it's all
[02:28:40.240 --> 02:28:45.920]  the same. Angola stole slavery. And you can see that very much in what Sack Van Berkowitz
[02:28:45.920 --> 02:28:54.640]  focused on there at Harvard. Everything for him was a product of Puritanism. And so we've got to
[02:28:54.640 --> 02:28:59.840]  overthrow this whole the Puritan roots of America, and we've got to attack it at its foundation. But
[02:28:59.840 --> 02:29:05.040]  he was really what he was trying to do was to attack the moral foundation of the country.
[02:29:05.040 --> 02:29:10.480]  That's why he focused on that so much. But everything he talked about was in terms of that,
[02:29:10.720 --> 02:29:16.080]  well, this is because of the Mayflower, and we've got to get rid of that. But
[02:29:16.960 --> 02:29:21.600]  it is kind of interesting. And of course, we see other approaches as well. You had people like
[02:29:25.600 --> 02:29:31.360]  Bill Ayers. They decided that they would, they said, well, we've had class struggles over,
[02:29:32.480 --> 02:29:36.720]  for Marxism in Europe. That's not going to work here. It's not working here that well.
[02:29:36.720 --> 02:29:39.920]  So let's go to a race struggle. So there's yet another
[02:29:39.920 --> 02:29:45.120]  approach that the communists have taken. They've got so many different prongs to get all of them
[02:29:45.680 --> 02:29:53.440]  take us to the same hell, don't they? We do the dirty work for them. We have, you know,
[02:29:54.320 --> 02:30:00.000]  class struggles, men against women. That's another big one right now. Children against their parents,
[02:30:00.640 --> 02:30:09.120]  black versus white or tan. It's all about conflict and war. That's their goal because they need that
[02:30:09.680 --> 02:30:14.400]  to enforce more rules and regulations of the government and less freedom. You guys can't play
[02:30:14.400 --> 02:30:20.480]  nice. Okay, well, we're going to incite that. And, you know, the Marxists knew that's one of the
[02:30:20.480 --> 02:30:26.640]  goals. And it's written over a period of time, lots of documentation on how that works. But
[02:30:26.640 --> 02:30:34.080]  that's the goal. So they're playing to our frailties of humans, you know, rich versus poor,
[02:30:34.080 --> 02:30:40.800]  black versus white, tan versus white, Chinese, whatever doesn't make a difference because their
[02:30:40.800 --> 02:30:45.840]  end game is world government. And they know that they can't have a lot of us. So we have to,
[02:30:45.840 --> 02:30:51.680]  we have to exterminate some. So let those guys exterminate themselves. And that's what we see,
[02:30:51.680 --> 02:30:56.320]  you know, and we're seeing that now in the UK, as we start our conversation about the Fabians,
[02:30:56.880 --> 02:31:02.640]  as I talk to the folks in the UK, we're watching their country and I used to live there, work there
[02:31:02.640 --> 02:31:09.200]  in Oxfordshire. So I know the country rather well, and I'm watching those folks being destroyed by
[02:31:09.760 --> 02:31:16.080]  the invaders on purpose, but they're doing their dirty work, destroying all their history and
[02:31:16.480 --> 02:31:23.760]  terror and terror into those folks in Ireland as well as the UK. And they're concerned,
[02:31:23.760 --> 02:31:29.440]  but I'm seeing a resurgence of the British citizen rising up. It was about a month ago,
[02:31:29.440 --> 02:31:38.400]  you recall in London, they had people marching with the British flag. It wasn't 200,000, David,
[02:31:38.400 --> 02:31:42.160]  we had people that were there and they said it was more like 3 million people were there.
[02:31:42.720 --> 02:31:49.120]  You'll see farmer trucks now marching into London with their tractors. They don't want to be slaves
[02:31:49.120 --> 02:31:53.040]  and I've talked to enough Europeans. They don't want to be a part of the European
[02:31:53.760 --> 02:31:58.800]  EC any longer. They're losing their sovereignty. They love their history, David, and they really
[02:31:58.800 --> 02:32:04.800]  respect it. And when I travel throughout Europe, when I live there, they really love their history
[02:32:04.800 --> 02:32:11.440]  and they love their heritage. It's being destroyed systematically and it does not work. One thing I
[02:32:11.440 --> 02:32:17.200]  wanted to tell you, which is interesting, I found out talking to several of the folks within past
[02:32:17.200 --> 02:32:24.080]  legislators, they tell me they get their news about the United States in two ways, CNN and
[02:32:24.080 --> 02:32:34.800]  the New York Times. What does that tell you, David? You're going to see CNN. I go, what is
[02:32:34.800 --> 02:32:42.720]  that doing? I'm in Hungary or I'm in Italy. I'm watching CNN. But that's how they look at the
[02:32:42.720 --> 02:32:47.600]  United States. I said, well, that's totally upside down. Well, I had a friend who worked in the
[02:32:47.600 --> 02:32:55.280]  Pentagon about 20, 30 years ago and when I talked to him, he said, yeah, CNN is playing on the screen
[02:32:55.280 --> 02:33:03.920]  all over the Pentagon, all the different rooms and everything. That's right. It's very important
[02:33:04.320 --> 02:33:13.680]  who you listen to. I've always tried to listen to various sources. I always preferred people
[02:33:13.680 --> 02:33:19.040]  who would tell me what they think and why they think it rather than the people who try to be
[02:33:19.040 --> 02:33:25.520]  this mushy middle like Time and Newsweek. I was always looking at The Nation or National Review
[02:33:25.520 --> 02:33:30.960]  or something like that. Even though I don't support their views, I'd like to see that conflict that
[02:33:30.960 --> 02:33:35.600]  was there because a lot of times that would help me to understand where I stood on the issue,
[02:33:35.600 --> 02:33:39.840]  so I try to get these people that are opposed to each other. But most people just go for something
[02:33:39.840 --> 02:33:45.360]  like Time or Newsweek or CNN and it's kind of the mushy middle that's put out there by
[02:33:45.920 --> 02:33:50.640]  the Mockingbird programs that are out there for people. But that's why it's very important
[02:33:50.640 --> 02:33:54.800]  for people to educate themselves and that's a very important thing that you do at the John
[02:33:54.800 --> 02:33:58.400]  Birch Society. Tell us a little bit about the John Birch Society and how it's organized at
[02:33:58.400 --> 02:34:04.080]  local level. Yes, thank you. We started in 1958 and our goal is education. You know,
[02:34:04.080 --> 02:34:09.520]  education is really critical for us, educating people about American values. Our job is limited
[02:34:09.520 --> 02:34:14.640]  government. You know, so people call us far right, that's not true. We're actually constitutional
[02:34:14.640 --> 02:34:20.160]  moderates. Some form of government but not total. All the left is all the isms, clearly fascism,
[02:34:20.160 --> 02:34:25.440]  right? And our job is to teach American. Americanism is not taught anymore, so we have free courses
[02:34:25.440 --> 02:34:31.280]  online, the JBS.org teaching about the Constitution. And we said, how do you elect
[02:34:31.280 --> 02:34:36.560]  constitutional moderates, representatives, state, local or federal, if you don't know the playbook?
[02:34:37.120 --> 02:34:42.080]  So how do you hold them accountable? And it's not taught on purpose. So now it becomes a
[02:34:42.080 --> 02:34:46.640]  personality contest. We don't want that. So we teach people Americanism and we give them the
[02:34:46.640 --> 02:34:51.280]  history and we show them who's behind the curtain. Like we mentioned the Fabians and the CFR and
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[02:36:11.680 --> 02:36:23.280]  It's interesting. As we look through time and look through history, I always go back to my
[02:36:23.280 --> 02:36:28.560]  UK experience where Audis Huxley was a Fabian. I'll go back to that for a second to answer your
[02:36:28.560 --> 02:36:33.040]  question. And what happened is he was writing, this guy was a young author writing all the
[02:36:33.040 --> 02:36:38.640]  information about what he heard. He was so excited about it that he decided to write a book.
[02:36:39.600 --> 02:36:44.000]  And he said, I can't use my pen name. My name is Eric Blair. I can't use that.
[02:36:44.000 --> 02:36:50.080]  I have to use a pen name. So I think my name is George. And George Orwell is really the
[02:36:50.080 --> 02:36:56.880]  Eric Blair. And he wrote 1984 about the Fabians. And the question becomes, why is it 1984? Well,
[02:36:56.880 --> 02:37:03.040]  January 4th of 1884 is the foundational of the Fabians. And they said, within 100 years,
[02:37:03.040 --> 02:37:06.640]  we have a world government. That's why that book is titled 1984.
[02:37:09.520 --> 02:37:15.120]  I heard people say, because he wrote it in 1948, but yeah, it's the 100th anniversary.
[02:37:16.560 --> 02:37:22.400]  Because he was indoctrinated by H.G. Wells and Audis Huxley about when he writes about Big Brother
[02:37:22.400 --> 02:37:28.480]  and Newspeak, that's all about the Fabians. And now that's in vogue, I'm saying, hey, look,
[02:37:28.480 --> 02:37:35.280]  that wasn't done as a science fiction. That was really his telling you. And he couldn't hold
[02:37:35.280 --> 02:37:42.240]  himself. He said, I have to really talk about this. That's why it's in 1984. It's 100 years
[02:37:42.240 --> 02:37:48.400]  of existence. And of course, I mentioned the Council on Formulations is a child of the Fabians.
[02:37:48.400 --> 02:37:53.840]  And now we have an American version, and we have the European version working in unison. So our job
[02:37:54.160 --> 02:38:00.160]  in British society is educate people what's going on to be personally responsible to elect
[02:38:00.160 --> 02:38:05.840]  constitutional moderates and constitution-minded representatives, state, local, and federal,
[02:38:05.840 --> 02:38:12.800]  so we can monitor not only our behavior, but go back to constitutional-based law and not
[02:38:13.520 --> 02:38:20.400]  rule by elitists. And that's what we see today. Yeah. And it's important for people to understand
[02:38:20.400 --> 02:38:26.080]  how many different ways they come at us in order to set up a totalitarian government.
[02:38:26.080 --> 02:38:30.400]  They have so many different tactics and strategies. And of course, one of those,
[02:38:30.400 --> 02:38:34.880]  I think that you're talking about Aldous Huxley and others like that, H.G. Wells and Huxley,
[02:38:34.880 --> 02:38:39.360]  the technocracy that was there. I mean, talk a little bit about technocracy as well. That's
[02:38:39.360 --> 02:38:43.440]  really kind of coming to us. People don't really know where to fit that, you know, because it
[02:38:43.440 --> 02:38:48.560]  doesn't really fit into the left-right paradigm. And yet that seems to be on the ascendancy as
[02:38:48.560 --> 02:38:52.320]  well. Talk a little bit about that. Well, you know, the story about technology,
[02:38:53.120 --> 02:38:58.320]  you know, but next to have a fellow used to be a member of the birth site was a C.I.A. He said,
[02:38:58.320 --> 02:39:01.200]  smile a lot because your picture gets taken about 300 times a day.
[02:39:02.240 --> 02:39:07.600]  That's right. More than that now, I guess. Yeah, you go bang, grocery store, go get gas.
[02:39:08.320 --> 02:39:16.880]  But technocracy is a tool for monitoring and governance. And that's why you see A.I. data
[02:39:16.880 --> 02:39:21.840]  centers and all every little thing that you've done. And they openly said this in the Bank of
[02:39:21.840 --> 02:39:26.000]  International Settlements. They want to have this digital currency where they can monitor every
[02:39:26.560 --> 02:39:32.560]  any of your expenditures from a hundred dollars on up so they can determine by checking China.
[02:39:32.560 --> 02:39:37.280]  If you have a bad social score, then you're not going to buy anything. So if you think about
[02:39:37.280 --> 02:39:42.720]  technology is going to be their weapon or tool to keep you in line. That's where I see it happening.
[02:39:42.800 --> 02:39:46.560]  And they're doing it through a lot of different angles. It looks kind of cool,
[02:39:46.560 --> 02:39:50.800]  but that's really the goal. One of the things I began the program with today was talking about
[02:39:50.800 --> 02:39:57.040]  the fact that, you know, I mentioned all the time about how artificial intelligence is really going
[02:39:57.040 --> 02:40:02.880]  to be a superpower for any kind of government tyranny to be able to monitor you and everything
[02:40:02.880 --> 02:40:07.760]  you're doing as you're just talking about, but also to manipulate opinion as well. And that's
[02:40:08.320 --> 02:40:15.360]  very concerning to me to see that this latest executive order from Trump that essentially
[02:40:15.360 --> 02:40:21.600]  presumes to prohibit any state laws that would curb things that are happening with A.I. companies.
[02:40:21.600 --> 02:40:26.400]  Because I think where that would really happen would be with the data centers. I think it's
[02:40:26.400 --> 02:40:32.240]  where the big conflict is going to come. And, you know, that is the bottleneck for them. And that
[02:40:32.240 --> 02:40:36.560]  would be one of the ways that you could limit them to buy a little bit of time to try to get some
[02:40:36.560 --> 02:40:43.920]  control of the situation or structure to keep some of these things at bay. But, again, to prohibit
[02:40:43.920 --> 02:40:50.080]  that at the federal level. And that is in direct conflict with the 10th Amendment. And, of course,
[02:40:50.080 --> 02:40:53.680]  the Democrats will tell you that now because they're not in Bauer. But as soon as they get
[02:40:53.680 --> 02:41:00.720]  in Bauer, they don't care about the 10th Amendment either. But it is really a real concern about this
[02:41:00.720 --> 02:41:07.600]  concentration of power and the destruction of the 10th Amendment. And, of course, the
[02:41:07.600 --> 02:41:12.880]  enforcement mechanism that it's going to run through is going to be to use financial carrots
[02:41:12.880 --> 02:41:17.040]  and sticks for people coming out of the federal government. That's the way they always get around
[02:41:17.040 --> 02:41:22.800]  the 10th Amendment, isn't it? Absolutely correct. Yes, the technocracy. That's exactly what we call
[02:41:22.800 --> 02:41:28.640]  technocracy. The techno-bureaucrats. That's where they use that technology, as I call it,
[02:41:28.640 --> 02:41:32.960]  digital prison. That's basically where you're looking at. And that's kind of where we're at.
[02:41:32.960 --> 02:41:37.360]  And that's what they're setting up, digital prison. So you can't go anywhere to do anything
[02:41:37.360 --> 02:41:42.800]  within your 15-minute city, whatever you want to be, to monitor where you are to lose all your
[02:41:42.800 --> 02:41:46.640]  freedoms. They're constantly coming up with different justifications to take us to the
[02:41:46.640 --> 02:41:52.080]  same kind of Orwellian hell that they want to set up. And that's why, you know, when you look at the
[02:41:52.080 --> 02:41:57.120]  Chinese communists, many times I'd look at them and say, OK, so are they really communist anymore
[02:41:57.120 --> 02:42:01.760]  or are they fascist? Because they've kind of merged economics and politics to a great extent
[02:42:01.760 --> 02:42:05.600]  there. And it's highly nationalistic and all the rest of these other things. So it's important to
[02:42:05.600 --> 02:42:10.560]  understand all these different strains, but then to not get boxed in by any of them. To understand
[02:42:10.560 --> 02:42:15.600]  these people mix and match. They'll take whatever they can use, maybe these different strategies.
[02:42:15.600 --> 02:42:20.160]  And, you know, when you look at them, if you were to construct a Venn diagram, it seems like they're
[02:42:20.160 --> 02:42:25.600]  all starting to reach convergence instead of one little point of overlap, doesn't it? Yeah, exactly.
[02:42:25.600 --> 02:42:30.400]  Well, you know, communism is just a tool. That's all it is, a tool for global governance.
[02:42:30.960 --> 02:42:36.000]  It's not the be all end all, just like any other religious things that we see. It's got nothing to
[02:42:36.000 --> 02:42:41.120]  do with it at all. Matter of fact, the men who are globalists are not communists. That's a tool.
[02:42:41.120 --> 02:42:45.920]  They're not fascists, but they use that mentality. But it's all the tool for world government. It's
[02:42:45.920 --> 02:42:51.840]  all going to come through the United Nations. And you see the UN, that's the center point of it all.
[02:42:52.160 --> 02:42:58.320]  We have a magazine called The New American. And matter of fact, we're actually launching it in
[02:42:58.320 --> 02:43:04.320]  there called The New European. And I can show you this. Oh, good. Yeah. Matt here, David,
[02:43:04.880 --> 02:43:09.760]  these little bubble diagrams, if you can see this all, these are all the UN offices in the world.
[02:43:10.560 --> 02:43:15.200]  They're not just one location in, you know, these rivers in Brussels. Yeah. What are these people
[02:43:15.200 --> 02:43:20.640]  doing in all these locations? Well, you're on the menu. That's what's going on. So you can imagine
[02:43:20.720 --> 02:43:24.880]  all those, you know, it's all over the United States. So I'd be happy to send this to you in
[02:43:24.880 --> 02:43:31.680]  a New American magazine. We have this one called The Global Power Grab. We did this one and it talks
[02:43:31.680 --> 02:43:37.840]  and I show this around the Australians and the New Zealand's and UK folks and the lady in France.
[02:43:37.840 --> 02:43:43.760]  They were totally amazed the depth of the United Nation, all these offices all over the world.
[02:43:43.760 --> 02:43:50.240]  Yes. And they're busy carving up the world for global governance. So that's, that's our part of
[02:43:50.240 --> 02:43:55.600]  our job at the Birch site, expose what's happening through education and making the way is it's not
[02:43:55.600 --> 02:44:00.720]  too late because there's more of us than them. And they know that our job, their job is to keep us
[02:44:00.720 --> 02:44:07.200]  off message and looking at sports figures or Hollywood or this or that the same time they're
[02:44:07.200 --> 02:44:12.240]  destroying our, our foundational principles of freedom. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. I've had Alex
[02:44:12.240 --> 02:44:18.800]  Newman on many times. I've talked to Alex and a great guy there at the New American and I've had
[02:44:18.800 --> 02:44:23.360]  other people as well from the New American. It's a great publication. And as you point out with that
[02:44:23.360 --> 02:44:28.880]  map and you see all the different areas where they have areas of responsibility and actual physical
[02:44:28.880 --> 02:44:33.200]  locations and everything, I think that's the key thing for people to understand is that it's not
[02:44:33.200 --> 02:44:36.800]  necessarily going to be, as you point out in Brussels, when you say, well, there's the seat of
[02:44:36.800 --> 02:44:42.640]  government or whatever, or the East river in New York. It really is not so much about that. It's
[02:44:42.640 --> 02:44:48.240]  about global governance. It's about this network of different organizations that are out there.
[02:44:48.240 --> 02:44:53.600]  And that's one of the things that I see about technocracy is really that not just, you know,
[02:44:53.600 --> 02:44:57.840]  the, the electronic network networking that's out there, but actually the political networking
[02:44:57.840 --> 02:45:03.280]  that is there and the interlocking of these different financial interests that are out there.
[02:45:03.280 --> 02:45:09.200]  So they can all have their own goals and things, but it is all pushing us towards this global
[02:45:09.200 --> 02:45:14.800]  governance. And, and the technology is really giving them power that they've never had before.
[02:45:15.440 --> 02:45:20.800]  That's the key thing that's really concerning me. So we saw that with COVID-19 was a good
[02:45:20.800 --> 02:45:26.240]  status, a beta test for them. I had the whole world under control. I'm sure they were absolutely
[02:45:26.240 --> 02:45:31.440]  laughing and amazed how easy it was to make that happen. I know. I was absolutely astounded how
[02:45:31.440 --> 02:45:36.400]  easy it was for them as well. And again, I think, you know, you look at the stimulus checks and all
[02:45:36.400 --> 02:45:42.000]  the rest of this stuff that was training wheels for universal basic income, which was something
[02:45:42.000 --> 02:45:47.280]  that Elon Musk has always been focused on when you had Andrew Yang come out, said he was going
[02:45:47.280 --> 02:45:51.840]  to run for president and that was going to be his issue. The main issue he branched out in some
[02:45:51.840 --> 02:45:56.480]  other things later on, but as soon as he came out and said universal basic income, Elon Musk handed
[02:45:56.480 --> 02:46:01.120]  him a million dollars. You know, he wanted him to push that idea. Well, it got pushed really big in
[02:46:01.120 --> 02:46:08.240]  2020. That's all part of the, that's all part of the program, the universal income to the UN.
[02:46:08.240 --> 02:46:13.440]  Of course it is. The whole job, they want you to be industrious. They want you to be collective,
[02:46:13.440 --> 02:46:18.880]  not individualists. And we fight collectivism. We believe in individualism, not collectivism.
[02:46:18.880 --> 02:46:24.640]  That's all part of the rule. You know, there's a called the herd mentality and that's exactly
[02:46:24.640 --> 02:46:30.000]  what they need to control us. It's all, that's the end game is that world government and they'll
[02:46:30.000 --> 02:46:35.520]  determine, as I mentioned early on, we started the show, George Bernard Shaw before the eugenics
[02:46:35.520 --> 02:46:41.120]  committee who lives and who dies. And you may not have that choice. If you're a strong crowd
[02:46:41.120 --> 02:46:45.120]  Christian or belief, you may not fit into it because they're amoral. They don't have any
[02:46:45.120 --> 02:46:49.760]  beliefs. The state is their belief. You may not fit into their program. If you can't be indoctrinated
[02:46:49.760 --> 02:46:55.360]  correctly, you may be exterminated. That's right. And that's written about that. So it's these guys
[02:46:55.360 --> 02:47:02.320]  play for keeps and it's serious. And our job has been to expose their plan since the late fifties
[02:47:02.320 --> 02:47:07.200]  and really what they want to do. And they're very open about it. Not more so than ever because they
[02:47:07.200 --> 02:47:14.320]  feel like young adults have been so indoctrinated through the universities and school that socialism
[02:47:14.320 --> 02:47:20.800]  is good. Like we saw the last mayor race in New York City. Can you imagine? Yeah. Nothing's free.
[02:47:20.800 --> 02:47:26.080]  The schools have indoctrinated that. But then we also have the situation where the, you know,
[02:47:26.080 --> 02:47:30.640]  the Gen Z people are finding it very, the kids are finding it very difficult to find a job.
[02:47:30.640 --> 02:47:34.640]  Even if they go to college, they're finding it difficult to find a job. And that is something,
[02:47:34.640 --> 02:47:40.320]  I think, that really drives this. Because again, one of the things that socialism has always pushed
[02:47:40.320 --> 02:47:45.280]  out there, I think, is envy. You know, they find these different, at its core, I think, like
[02:47:46.640 --> 02:47:50.960]  Saul Alinsky, you know, dedicated his book Rules for Radicals to Satan. And I think at the core of
[02:47:50.960 --> 02:47:57.600]  it, there's all these different satanic appeals to the evil aspects of our nature. You know,
[02:47:57.600 --> 02:48:02.400]  whether it's about greed, whether it's about envy, whether it's about hatred, racism,
[02:48:02.400 --> 02:48:08.640]  tribalism, all these different things. And they identify these things and seek to exploit them
[02:48:08.640 --> 02:48:14.320]  with these different approaches that they take. You know, and so that's what I think is you have
[02:48:14.320 --> 02:48:18.240]  to be aware of the tactics and the strategies that are there if we're ever going to be able
[02:48:18.240 --> 02:48:22.800]  to defeat them. Otherwise, we're just putting in their hands, aren't we? That's exactly, and
[02:48:22.800 --> 02:48:26.400]  you're exactly correct. That's exactly what they do. They pit one group against another,
[02:48:26.400 --> 02:48:32.400]  one philosophy, because it's all about conflict. It's all about the conflict. That's critically
[02:48:32.400 --> 02:48:37.600]  important. But we have to identify what it is and expose what it is. That's really important. So we
[02:48:37.600 --> 02:48:45.040]  know the game. It's a charades. You remember the movie where we had with Julie Garland,
[02:48:45.040 --> 02:48:48.400]  follow Yellow Vic Road, you know, and all of a sudden, who's the man behind the curtain?
[02:48:48.400 --> 02:48:53.840]  Don't pay attention to him. Well, we expose who's behind the curtain, you know, and that's really
[02:48:53.840 --> 02:48:59.440]  what it's all about. It's really a plan. It's not done by accident. And we see a lot of Kubuki
[02:48:59.440 --> 02:49:05.200]  theater. Yes. But the thing is, is that we identify really what it is. And to tell you what,
[02:49:05.200 --> 02:49:10.480]  it's very difficult for people to believe it because some of their heroes of the past
[02:49:10.480 --> 02:49:14.320]  were not good people. That's right. And I'm sorry, folks. Or the heroes of the present.
[02:49:15.120 --> 02:49:18.880]  Or the present. Yeah. I mentioned about George Bernard Shaw. The guy was, you know,
[02:49:18.960 --> 02:49:23.840]  think about that one. Well, I mean, I can go on, but there's a lot of them. And they were not who
[02:49:23.840 --> 02:49:28.720]  they thought they were. I mean, yeah, he wrote Pygmalion, which was then turned into My Fair Lady,
[02:49:28.720 --> 02:49:33.840]  you know, the musical and the play. And, you know, we enjoy the music with that. But yeah,
[02:49:33.840 --> 02:49:38.240]  the guy who was there. And even when you look at all these different science fiction novels,
[02:49:38.240 --> 02:49:41.920]  they've basically become a blueprint for them. But when you're talking about how they like to
[02:49:41.920 --> 02:49:46.800]  set up conflict between different groups, that's why I think we really need to have our guard up
[02:49:47.360 --> 02:49:52.560]  about partisan politics. Because that is another way they do it. They don't just do it by race or
[02:49:52.560 --> 02:49:58.800]  by sex or this or that. They do it also with political factions. And, you know, when people
[02:49:58.800 --> 02:50:03.360]  buy into these things and start to excuse the actions of their leaders, what they really need
[02:50:03.360 --> 02:50:08.880]  to do is to look at the longer historical view and say, where were the Fabian Socialists trying
[02:50:08.880 --> 02:50:12.480]  to take us? You know, where were the Gramsci Socialists trying to take us? Where were the
[02:50:12.480 --> 02:50:20.080]  Marxists trying to take us? And if the actions of the person that's the hero of your party
[02:50:20.080 --> 02:50:26.720]  is going to move us in the direction of these Socialists and Marxists, they need to pull back
[02:50:27.280 --> 02:50:31.920]  and say, we're not going to follow that, even though that's part of our tribe here or whatever.
[02:50:31.920 --> 02:50:35.920]  I think that's a very important thing, you know. Right. Elections change government,
[02:50:35.920 --> 02:50:40.320]  but institutions, you know, change nations. That's really important. They actually,
[02:50:40.320 --> 02:50:45.040]  Fabian has even said that. They also said power shifts from representation to management.
[02:50:45.040 --> 02:50:49.600]  And that's where we are. No matter, you know, it's left or right, you know, in the politics scene,
[02:50:50.640 --> 02:50:55.360]  the policy being set forward doesn't make a difference who runs back and forth. It's all
[02:50:55.360 --> 02:51:01.120]  Kabuki theater for us because they're not setting the policy someone else is. And we identify who
[02:51:01.120 --> 02:51:06.080]  they are. That's really critically important. So it's all a big game in front of us, but
[02:51:06.080 --> 02:51:10.800]  we have to identify really who they are, what's happening. And that's all part of what we do,
[02:51:10.800 --> 02:51:16.400]  educate people and make them aware. There's more of us than them, but our job is to wake people
[02:51:16.400 --> 02:51:20.400]  up. And sometimes they don't want to, they want to hear about it. You know, our job is to wake
[02:51:20.400 --> 02:51:24.880]  people up and tell them really what's going on, much like the story I gave to the UK folks about
[02:51:24.880 --> 02:51:31.440]  the Fabians. I said, look, they're destroying your country on plan. It's not by accident.
[02:51:31.920 --> 02:51:36.240]  That's why, you know, I question, you know, so do they still have a Fabian society that people
[02:51:36.240 --> 02:51:41.360]  belong to? Because typically these things are done in secret, you know, or quietly. So you have
[02:51:41.360 --> 02:51:45.440]  secret societies, you know, things like the Masons or whatever, but, you know, people will be
[02:51:45.440 --> 02:51:49.840]  members of this. But I don't think, do we have a Fabian society that you have politicians that
[02:51:49.840 --> 02:51:56.880]  are part of here in the U.S. or is it mainly the CFR that you'll see? Mostly the CFR. Yeah. Yeah.
[02:51:57.200 --> 02:52:02.240]  Exactly. What's the deal? It's a, it's a, it's more what it's a partner of with the Fabian. So
[02:52:02.240 --> 02:52:07.760]  back to Cecil Rhodes and Lord Milner and, and, you know, Woodrow Wilson took command of house.
[02:52:07.760 --> 02:52:12.320]  They had this thing called the inquiry back in the 1900s or so, and they, they formed this group
[02:52:12.320 --> 02:52:17.040]  and they want the United States and council for relations born in 1921. And they're going to set
[02:52:17.040 --> 02:52:22.320]  foreign policy up mark through, through David Rockefeller. And today you have members of the
[02:52:22.320 --> 02:52:28.640]  cabinet of 40, 50% of the people in presidential cabinets were part of the CFR. I had Clinton,
[02:52:28.640 --> 02:52:32.960]  Eisenhower, all those guys were all involved in the CFR. They knew exactly what was going on. So
[02:52:32.960 --> 02:52:38.640]  they were tearing the water for the CFR policy group. And that's exactly what goes on. So it was
[02:52:38.640 --> 02:52:44.560]  all, it looked good, you know, but reality is one of the stories that goes this way.
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[02:53:48.000 --> 02:53:53.300]  We have an election. It's like when you're in high school, you know, the room a president of the student council
[02:53:53.300 --> 02:53:55.300]  Remember those back in high school?
[02:53:56.580 --> 02:54:00.180]  Yeah, yeah, and by the way, I'm gonna have longer lunch hours
[02:54:00.180 --> 02:54:05.720]  We're gonna have less homework, right and all of a sudden they get elected and they're like who's running this show the
[02:54:06.720 --> 02:54:10.480]  Principal high school may never happen and that's it. Sorry with the CFR
[02:54:10.480 --> 02:54:15.360]  We have a beauty contest which is a public, you know, either presidential election or congressional
[02:54:15.720 --> 02:54:18.120]  And then who's running a show behind the scenes?
[02:54:18.120 --> 02:54:23.680]  That's really it's really those groups those unelected bureaucratic officials are unelected
[02:54:24.200 --> 02:54:28.840]  And we expose what they are. We have that book called the shadows of power
[02:54:29.320 --> 02:54:34.200]  another book that we published years ago called the shadows of power exposes
[02:54:34.760 --> 02:54:38.520]  the council on foreign relations war one or two
[02:54:39.080 --> 02:54:41.080]  Korean Vietnam how they all
[02:54:41.640 --> 02:54:45.480]  Morphed into all part of the plan that's called the shadows of power
[02:54:45.480 --> 02:54:51.840]  So we know we did so the Fabians is freeways about the Fabians the shadows of power is about the council on
[02:54:52.140 --> 02:54:58.740]  Formulations and once people look at history they get pretty angry because they know it's all been a theater for not for us
[02:54:58.740 --> 02:55:03.600]  But for for them, yeah, and they play the game to make it look like you're running the show
[02:55:03.600 --> 02:55:06.640]  But you're not you're just a victim of the globalist plan
[02:55:06.640 --> 02:55:09.160]  I agree and I when I think of the John Bursch Society
[02:55:09.160 --> 02:55:16.400]  I you guys have done a great job of educating people about the council on foreign relations the CFR stuff and yet we still have
[02:55:17.040 --> 02:55:20.880]  These people run for office and I think you'll see them proudly list that
[02:55:21.520 --> 02:55:26.280]  as part of their CV, you know that yeah member of the council on foreign relations and
[02:55:29.080 --> 02:55:31.760]  It's like, you know, I'm part of this satanic group over here
[02:55:32.640 --> 02:55:37.440]  But it's you know, they see it as a you know, because it really does have a lot of
[02:55:40.000 --> 02:55:45.800]  Panache or whatever a clout in Washington to be a member of that club and they're proud of it and
[02:55:46.640 --> 02:55:50.120]  We need to call them out on it. We need to understand the history of it
[02:55:50.120 --> 02:55:52.120]  We need to understand really just how
[02:55:52.480 --> 02:55:55.560]  Evil the actions have been and how that has really been there
[02:55:55.560 --> 02:55:59.720]  So I guess in the UK they still have people who are part of the Fabian Society
[02:55:59.760 --> 02:56:03.320]  But here you'll see it in the CFR and they'll be doing the same
[02:56:03.320 --> 02:56:09.840]  Yeah, Bill Clinton was a member of mountain Albury was a member Robert Rubin was a member of being Cohen Larry Summers
[02:56:10.200 --> 02:56:18.120]  George W. Bush was gonna leave rice colon power Robert Gates Henry Paulson Burke Obama was president scribe a candidate to be Gaithered
[02:56:18.440 --> 02:56:25.240]  Susan Rice, you know, John Bolton Henry McMaster and Mike Pompeo. I don't I want you I see what's going on here
[02:56:25.360 --> 02:56:32.800]  So they're there in strategic locations to to monitor and steer public policy, that's what it's going on
[02:56:32.800 --> 02:56:39.320]  So when you see this we hear the song we guys it was Democrat Republican you get to the same place all the time
[02:56:40.040 --> 02:56:43.640]  That's the key and I remember when Reagan got elected people were excited
[02:56:43.640 --> 02:56:46.660]  Oh, look, he's not CFR, you know, and we I can't remember last time
[02:56:46.660 --> 02:56:53.000]  We had a president that wasn't CFR and yet what he did was he put CFR people in all the different positions around him
[02:56:53.160 --> 02:56:56.660]  You know, that's exactly well Trump is not a member of the CFR
[02:56:56.660 --> 02:57:00.680]  I can tell you that so he's not a member but he's got people around and make sure he doesn't get too far off
[02:57:01.680 --> 02:57:05.600]  Of the script although he does that's right. That's right. Oh, it's yeah
[02:57:05.600 --> 02:57:10.840]  I think what Trump is really as much as anything it's the technocracy because these guys are writing the checks there
[02:57:11.160 --> 02:57:16.360]  I'm very concerned that you know, we all know now what the CVD CVDC is and
[02:57:17.080 --> 02:57:18.560]  yet
[02:57:18.600 --> 02:57:24.040]  I think the same thing can be accomplished with a stable coin and they can make a lot of money
[02:57:24.240 --> 02:57:26.360]  Putting the stable coin out there at the same time
[02:57:26.720 --> 02:57:28.720]  So it's one way they can get rich
[02:57:28.720 --> 02:57:32.040]  They can get rich off of that or they can't get rich off of the CVDC
[02:57:32.040 --> 02:57:35.360]  And since everybody's kind of wise to the game of the CVDC
[02:57:35.360 --> 02:57:38.200]  They don't realize that stable coin is still going to have those
[02:57:38.760 --> 02:57:43.880]  Capabilities to be able to turn off your ability to trade and do other things like that
[02:57:44.280 --> 02:57:46.460]  Tell us a bit about the John burst society
[02:57:46.460 --> 02:57:50.940]  I know you guys have had a lot of fights and that have you been hit with any kind of
[02:57:51.420 --> 02:57:58.540]  debanking or stuff like that because I mean I have and I've been kicked off of PayPal and VIMO and other other formats like that because
[02:57:59.060 --> 02:58:06.220]  Of things that I was saying in 2020 about the lockdown and the pandemic and the vaccine climate change and all the rest of stuff
[02:58:06.660 --> 02:58:08.660]  Are you seeing that kind of?
[02:58:08.940 --> 02:58:14.820]  Debanking and deep platforming in various places. Yeah. Well, sometimes we say that we get to to
[02:58:15.500 --> 02:58:21.200]  To too much of truth that YouTube will take us down for a while or something like that and we'll come back on again
[02:58:22.020 --> 02:58:28.000]  You know, we don't have that issue with banking per say but they ignore us because they don't need attention
[02:58:28.000 --> 02:58:32.620]  We get attacked, you know, we start to grow so they try to tell we don't exist any longer
[02:58:32.900 --> 02:58:37.660]  Yeah, that's when I first learned of the John burst society was when William F. Buckley was on a tear
[02:58:38.260 --> 02:58:40.260]  You to come after you
[02:58:40.540 --> 02:58:45.300]  Well, I think I agree with these guys and I'm a Buckley so he's a CFR member by the way
[02:58:48.820 --> 02:58:54.860]  Probably CIA as well. So I'm bones, you know from Yale, you know, I can go on he was a good guy, right?
[02:58:54.860 --> 02:59:00.160]  Yeah, sure. You know, there's organizations just today. They don't look at don't listen to those guys over there. You know, yeah
[02:59:01.860 --> 02:59:05.580]  That's why he was he was a good guy. That's why MPR had him on that's right. Yeah, right
[02:59:06.580 --> 02:59:10.700]  People go we wrote a book about that called the Pied Piper of the establishment
[02:59:10.700 --> 02:59:14.540]  We wrote that book Jack McMaster past president. You may have known him
[02:59:14.540 --> 02:59:19.940]  He wrote the book about Buckley and he was you know, he was all put together to make sure that he steers
[02:59:20.460 --> 02:59:25.700]  The the conservative movement their direction of the CFR in which he was a member of the CFR
[02:59:25.700 --> 02:59:30.380]  Yeah, so, you know, it's like, you know, as I said, it's not matter who it's all controlled
[02:59:30.380 --> 02:59:35.220]  You know, it's and he was control opposition. He's a very poster child for that. Isn't he controlled?
[02:59:35.900 --> 02:59:41.500]  Correct and people still hold him up as he was something, you know, super conservative. He was yeah, I remember, you know
[02:59:42.020 --> 02:59:44.020]  wrestling ball really I analyzed him
[02:59:45.780 --> 02:59:49.140]  You don't realize who this guy is that that's kind of telling but
[02:59:49.740 --> 02:59:56.500]  anyway, it's a it really is a great organization and really do appreciate what you guys do and
[02:59:57.420 --> 02:59:58.740]  again the
[02:59:58.740 --> 03:00:01.860]  the the quiet ideology reshaping policy
[03:00:02.380 --> 03:00:05.020]  from London parlors to DC power
[03:00:05.580 --> 03:00:08.860]  Set a book or is that an article because that's how I found out about
[03:00:10.380 --> 03:00:16.820]  About something that's a it sounds like the Fabian freeway. That's what it sounds like. Okay, that's just a pilot over
[03:00:16.820 --> 03:00:20.540]  Yeah, the JBS been around for a long time. We have area chapters
[03:00:20.700 --> 03:00:24.260]  We educate people on the voting record of their representatives
[03:00:24.260 --> 03:00:30.300]  And so we try to encourage people to be active participants in the process. How do you change?
[03:00:30.860 --> 03:00:38.060]  Your representative David is if you don't understand the Constitution or at least go visit them say why did you vote unconstitutional?
[03:00:38.060 --> 03:00:40.060]  So we have this thing called the scorecard
[03:00:40.060 --> 03:00:43.780]  We print it out every quarter and it talks about the voting record
[03:00:44.140 --> 03:00:47.980]  Constitutionally, we picked them on Congress, you know Senate as well as the house
[03:00:48.580 --> 03:00:55.080]  Where they are so people know if they're voting in Constitution not and it's our personal responsibility as Americans
[03:00:55.440 --> 03:00:57.440]  To uphold remember the
[03:00:58.200 --> 03:01:05.600]  Representatives work for us and say hey, why are you voting this way and would they have not I mean representative called me said no one ever
[03:01:06.240 --> 03:01:11.220]  Very rarely calls me on the phone and talks about anything. Yeah, and so
[03:01:11.760 --> 03:01:15.140]  We can't it's not you know, we can't sit back and I said in one day
[03:01:15.140 --> 03:01:19.720]  We have a handsome young conservative show up in Congress. It doesn't happen that way
[03:01:19.720 --> 03:01:25.720]  Yeah, so what my biggest goal is fight complacency in Americans and
[03:01:26.320 --> 03:01:32.080]  It's life is too good. And even though the economics today is hurting them now, they're listening
[03:01:32.640 --> 03:01:37.880]  But life is too good and they have to you know, we have to get behind and spend a little time
[03:01:38.760 --> 03:01:42.080]  Protecting our sovereignty and our freedoms, but we have to know
[03:01:42.600 --> 03:01:44.940]  Who we are first and that's what we try to teach
[03:01:45.140 --> 03:01:50.860]  Americanist principles and hold up representatives who work for us to make sure that happens. I agree
[03:01:50.860 --> 03:01:54.780]  Yeah, and that's what I liked about the John Birch Society was the focus on
[03:01:55.340 --> 03:02:01.060]  Local activism as well and you know what is happening locally in your state as well
[03:02:01.060 --> 03:02:03.260]  And I've seen what you're talking about in terms of
[03:02:03.900 --> 03:02:09.300]  Representatives who say nobody ever calls me. I saw the power of that and I've talked about this on the program when I lived
[03:02:09.300 --> 03:02:12.140]  in North Carolina, I was involved with homeschooling and
[03:02:12.900 --> 03:02:17.580]  At that point in time all of North Carolina's government was Democrat
[03:02:18.380 --> 03:02:21.580]  Democrat House and Senate as well as the governor and all the rest of stuff
[03:02:21.580 --> 03:02:27.300]  So they they decided the teachers unions decided that they're what's going on, Texas. It's bluff here
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[03:03:26.020 --> 03:03:29.460]  We're going to shut down homeschooling and it looked like they were going to be able to do it
[03:03:29.940 --> 03:03:31.940]  because it was all Democrats and
[03:03:32.660 --> 03:03:39.280]  An active minority of homeschoolers, which was really small at the time. There wasn't a lot of people homeschooling
[03:03:39.700 --> 03:03:41.700]  So many more who were doing it today
[03:03:41.820 --> 03:03:48.300]  But everybody got actively involved and started writing and it made them look so much bigger than they actually were and
[03:03:48.740 --> 03:03:55.500]  Actually beat down the teachers unions in a Democrat state that we're going to try to regulate homeschooling out of
[03:03:56.380 --> 03:04:02.540]  Existence and so that is a was a very important first-hand lesson to learn but it's difficult to get people to do that
[03:04:02.540 --> 03:04:05.300]  That's one of the things that John Birch Society does I think it's excellent
[03:04:05.380 --> 03:04:10.980]  which is to educate each other about what is happening locally within your state and
[03:04:11.660 --> 03:04:17.100]  And how you can take action at a local level. I remember my probably my earliest
[03:04:17.860 --> 03:04:23.540]  Memory of the John Birch Society was to support your local sheriff stuff being concerned about the federalization and
[03:04:24.180 --> 03:04:30.100]  Of the police and that is something that is now really escalating isn't it? Yeah
[03:04:30.220 --> 03:04:34.220]  Yeah, we actually have it we have that group is still exists called support your local police
[03:04:34.220 --> 03:04:38.500]  We want to keep them independent. I've federalized. We have a group. We have an affiliate not-for-profit
[03:04:39.580 --> 03:04:45.060]  Called support your local police and we also have a you mentioned school with the homeschool
[03:04:45.260 --> 03:04:51.140]  We've been existing for 15 years called the Freedom Project Academy. It goes from kindergarten to high school
[03:04:51.140 --> 03:04:54.980]  We have live we you know education of course online
[03:04:55.340 --> 03:05:00.580]  Or you can buy a recorded version of it and that's been around so we're educating
[03:05:01.100 --> 03:05:03.100]  all over the world adults
[03:05:03.980 --> 03:05:08.240]  Are having their children sign up to learn really Americanism who we are
[03:05:08.860 --> 03:05:10.860]  not
[03:05:11.860 --> 03:05:16.820]  Fabricated history and we teach you how to kids how to write cursive and do math or read books
[03:05:16.820 --> 03:05:18.820]  How about that for a change and so we?
[03:05:19.460 --> 03:05:25.220]  You know it hasn't happened above us so I can tell you that and we spent more time in education than your social
[03:05:26.060 --> 03:05:30.060]  Emotional learning but the thing is and it goes you mentioned Alison we're a lot of books about that
[03:05:30.060 --> 03:05:35.860]  But the thing is is that so we look at education where our children or adults bring the bring it to view
[03:05:36.340 --> 03:05:39.580]  Really who we are what we're all about because we've been indoctrinated
[03:05:40.220 --> 03:05:45.660]  And we know that brainwashing has existed through all the mass media David all the mass media
[03:05:45.660 --> 03:05:48.140]  So, you know very well because you're in the media business
[03:05:48.140 --> 03:05:53.700]  That's all controlled by the Council on Foreign Relations every one of those your time the other networks including Fox
[03:05:53.700 --> 03:05:58.820]  No, it's all controlled media and they all say the same thing same deal. So guess what?
[03:05:59.540 --> 03:06:05.540]  That's the only thing you hear. That's the only thing you believe so we said no timeout. Let's talk about reality here
[03:06:05.900 --> 03:06:09.820]  And it's hard for some people to swallow. But once you've been red-pilled
[03:06:10.340 --> 03:06:14.340]  All of a sudden the world changes like now I see what's going on here
[03:06:14.340 --> 03:06:17.760]  So our that's our job in the birth decide we've there with kids with school
[03:06:18.020 --> 03:06:23.220]  You're right about the law enforcement want to keep them independent. We teach the Constitution. We get people involved
[03:06:23.660 --> 03:06:28.160]  It's about education get people activated and evolve. That's really important
[03:06:28.160 --> 03:06:34.060]  I absolutely agree get activated involved and that's how we save our country as well as the people over in England
[03:06:34.100 --> 03:06:40.140]  They see the problem now because they're watching their country be destroyed and I mentioned the Fabians
[03:06:40.140 --> 03:06:46.780]  We first came on because that's coming attractions for the United States. What you see in Europe is coming attractions for here
[03:06:46.780 --> 03:06:51.060]  Oh, yeah, just a little bit. Yeah, it's a warning. Yeah, that's right
[03:06:51.260 --> 03:06:55.400]  Yeah, and and so, you know getting back to the the federalization of the police, you know
[03:06:55.400 --> 03:06:58.040]  We look at these things and we say okay
[03:06:58.060 --> 03:07:03.060]  Even if you like the guy who's doing it and even if you agree with the stated goal
[03:07:03.060 --> 03:07:05.140]  You have to look at this and say yeah
[03:07:05.140 --> 03:07:09.140]  but that policy is going to establish a precedent of the federalization of
[03:07:09.460 --> 03:07:13.820]  Law enforcement and so I know where that leads right? So we pull this back
[03:07:14.660 --> 03:07:21.480]  Okay, so let's let's walk this back and and we have to oppose this even if we agree with the stated purpose
[03:07:21.480 --> 03:07:25.760]  That's the wrong way to do it and it is so important that we not
[03:07:26.540 --> 03:07:28.260]  sacrifice the
[03:07:28.260 --> 03:07:30.020]  that the
[03:07:30.020 --> 03:07:34.900]  You know that the means does not it's not just that the end does not justify the means
[03:07:34.980 --> 03:07:40.760]  That's how these people always get us there and and it's understanding those principles and what America is about
[03:07:41.260 --> 03:07:46.980]  Understanding the Constitution and what that's about and why those things are there those important safeguards
[03:07:47.500 --> 03:07:53.180]  Against tyranny and understand that if we wipe those things away because it's going to make it more expedient
[03:07:53.380 --> 03:07:56.540]  For us to achieve this particular policy goal
[03:07:57.300 --> 03:07:59.580]  We are going to pay the price the longer we
[03:08:00.420 --> 03:08:02.420]  Nationalized police force is one of Marx's
[03:08:02.740 --> 03:08:07.940]  Carl Marx's plan and so that's where we're trying to avoid keep them local and independent
[03:08:07.940 --> 03:08:12.460]  Your sheriff is a very important person in your county very important person
[03:08:12.460 --> 03:08:15.540]  And I was I encouraged people to know who the sheriff is
[03:08:15.860 --> 03:08:22.120]  And talk to them and making sure that you understand and they understand about America's principles in our in our rights
[03:08:22.300 --> 03:08:25.820]  And they have you have to know who the sheriff is so they know who you are
[03:08:26.140 --> 03:08:33.900]  Much like your legislators and state legislator, you know go back to our basics of our country our United States were formed as
[03:08:34.340 --> 03:08:36.580]  independent states sovereign states
[03:08:37.260 --> 03:08:43.580]  Over a period of time David that we've given the states have given power from themselves to the federal government
[03:08:43.580 --> 03:08:49.820]  That's not the way it was supposed to operate. Yeah, the government supposed to defend us against public and domestic enemies, you know
[03:08:50.300 --> 03:08:57.180]  And that's very limited powers look at article 1 section 8 of the Constitution very limited powers Congress has right and government
[03:08:57.180 --> 03:09:03.620]  And so we have actually given more power to the federal government why it's all upside-side and distorted distorted today
[03:09:03.620 --> 03:09:09.140]  So we spend time with our local legislators in each state to make sure they would hold the constitutional responsibility
[03:09:09.700 --> 03:09:15.420]  Each state has a constitution the word democracy does not exist. It's always a republic
[03:09:15.460 --> 03:09:21.740]  That's all nothing we teach people that word does not appear in our Constitution or any state Constitution and people don't even know that
[03:09:22.100 --> 03:09:27.820]  And I said you have to understand states are sovereign. Make sure you make this is where it begins
[03:09:28.020 --> 03:09:31.020]  So if you look at our history, it was done with that
[03:09:31.740 --> 03:09:34.780]  Phenomenal idea that keep them sovereign independent states. So
[03:09:35.500 --> 03:09:41.000]  Those basic things I just said to you most Americans I talked to do not understand that. Yeah, they don't
[03:09:41.460 --> 03:09:43.460]  that's right, absolutely do not and
[03:09:44.180 --> 03:09:46.460]  And it's so important that we
[03:09:46.820 --> 03:09:52.980]  Do we understand a foundation of principles and why these things were set up the way they were actually is a good plan
[03:09:52.980 --> 03:09:55.740]  You know, even though the Constitution has been completely violated
[03:09:56.580 --> 03:09:59.820]  It's still a good plan and we should try it someday in our lifetime. I think
[03:10:00.980 --> 03:10:05.220]  It's like the Ten Commandments. It's not the ten suggestions, you know, that's right. That's right
[03:10:06.740 --> 03:10:09.340]  You have to know it before you can hold it, you know and
[03:10:10.340 --> 03:10:15.500]  Everybody pretty much whether they're local or state or especially federal they take an oath to the Constitution
[03:10:15.940 --> 03:10:22.380]  As a requirement of their authority and so when they violate that they no longer have any illegitimate authority
[03:10:22.380 --> 03:10:28.180]  But they do have a lot of power and so we need to understand that we can have power collectively and that's one of the things
[03:10:28.180 --> 03:10:33.660]  I think the John Birch Society does bring to the table. Thank you so much for joining us. It's been a fascinating discussion
[03:10:34.540 --> 03:10:36.540]  Mr. Morrow Wayne Morrow
[03:10:36.820 --> 03:10:41.940]  Thank You Wayne Morrow the CEO of the John Birch Society always great talking to you guys
[03:10:41.940 --> 03:10:43.220]  We're gonna take a quick break folks
[03:10:43.220 --> 03:10:47.820]  And we'll be right back want to talk a little bit about what's going on with cars here in just a second
[03:10:47.820 --> 03:10:49.820]  So we'll be right back stay with us
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[03:14:15.140 --> 03:14:19.780]  Welcome back folks. We got a lot of comments and Jersey boy. Thank you so much for the support
[03:14:19.780 --> 03:14:23.780]  He says can you please ask if he was ever heard of William Cooper who wrote behold a pale horse?
[03:14:23.780 --> 03:14:26.580]  I'm sorry. I didn't see that comment in time. I'm sorry
[03:14:27.060 --> 03:14:34.060]  And does he know about Jimmy from Brooklyn who JBS interviewed who I'm trying to get on your show. Okay
[03:14:34.580 --> 03:14:41.300]  Well, yeah, I'm sorry. I missed that. I'm very sorry. Yes apologies. Mm-hmm. Oh and 61. Thank you so much for the support
[03:14:41.300 --> 03:14:45.260]  He just says thank you. Well, thank you Owen. Appreciate it. Yes. Thank you so much
[03:14:45.260 --> 03:14:50.640]  And Jersey boy again says I remember a few years ago from JBS an email history of and I need to
[03:14:51.640 --> 03:14:57.520]  History of Republicans it was started by a communist does he know what it was and what does he think of JFK?
[03:14:57.520 --> 03:14:59.520]  You know, it's interesting
[03:15:00.240 --> 03:15:02.240]  Book I really enjoyed
[03:15:02.720 --> 03:15:08.880]  Was an alternative history book by Harry Turledove. He's written a lot of alternative history books and
[03:15:09.700 --> 03:15:14.140]  This one was about the Civil War is called how few remain and in it
[03:15:15.000 --> 03:15:17.000]  You know, you may know the history that
[03:15:17.760 --> 03:15:19.760]  Entitum as bloody as a battle was
[03:15:22.640 --> 03:15:27.480]  Nearly was it could have been a victory for the South except that when the couriers
[03:15:27.960 --> 03:15:34.760]  Dropped the orders that he was carrying and they fell into the Union's hands. And so in his book
[03:15:35.680 --> 03:15:38.320]  Guys say hey you dropped those orders better pick those up
[03:15:38.320 --> 03:15:44.640]  Can you imagine what would happen if the other guys got that right? And so that causes an early end to the war and
[03:15:45.200 --> 03:15:51.680]  Pretty much all the major figures of both north and south survive and the
[03:15:53.280 --> 03:15:57.240]  Causes early end of the war and the South to gain its independence and
[03:15:58.520 --> 03:16:05.120]  In the in his alternative history Lincoln is entirely discredited because he lost the war
[03:16:05.440 --> 03:16:11.440]  But then he makes a comeback as this book is picking up a couple of decades on at that point in time
[03:16:11.440 --> 03:16:16.840]  I think he's got Stonewall Jackson as the as a president of the Confederacy and
[03:16:17.160 --> 03:16:21.600]  Lincoln makes a political comeback as head of the Socialist Party and
[03:16:22.040 --> 03:16:27.480]  that's one of the things that made that book so interesting was he really did understand these people what motivated them and
[03:16:28.440 --> 03:16:33.600]  the the things behind them and so yeah, there was an early connection with that and
[03:16:34.360 --> 03:16:36.360]  if you look at
[03:16:36.400 --> 03:16:40.080]  Always think about the Pledge of Allegiance that was put in by the Grand Army the Republic
[03:16:40.760 --> 03:16:43.400]  most the veterans especially if they were
[03:16:44.120 --> 03:16:47.000]  Well known or successful played an important part in the war
[03:16:47.520 --> 03:16:54.240]  they got very big positions and the subsequent governments that were there and the Grand Army the Republic which was the
[03:16:55.200 --> 03:17:00.720]  Organization of Civil War veterans for the north had a tremendous amount of influence
[03:17:00.720 --> 03:17:07.800]  They were the ones who instituted the Pledge of Allegiance and it initially did not have under God in it until the mid
[03:17:08.120 --> 03:17:12.760]  1950s and so the emphasis was on one nation indivisible and
[03:17:13.520 --> 03:17:16.480]  that you know very harsh with that and the
[03:17:16.760 --> 03:17:20.520]  It was the pledge was done with one arms extended out
[03:17:21.000 --> 03:17:26.560]  Palm down just like the Nazi salute they changed it to hand over your heart
[03:17:27.000 --> 03:17:33.720]  Because the Nazi salute but yeah socialism and a lot of other things were were there and the
[03:17:34.320 --> 03:17:38.240]  As well as the concentration of power and really talking about the destruction of
[03:17:38.880 --> 03:17:46.160]  The states as sovereign entities and the understanding that the states had created the federal government all that stuff disappeared
[03:17:46.320 --> 03:17:48.320]  with Civil War go ahead
[03:17:49.160 --> 03:17:54.560]  We have usernames 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 AI will be kosher and DEI
[03:17:56.800 --> 03:18:02.260]  Nibiru 2029 says we have the best government money can buy and that's a quote from Mark Twain
[03:18:03.720 --> 03:18:09.160]  And they spend more and more every single day has a novant a 1776
[03:18:09.440 --> 03:18:16.360]  Ask the guest his take on war Gaza Trump's anti-semitism czar and the Heritage Foundation's project. I apologize
[03:18:16.360 --> 03:18:19.240]  I didn't see that. Yes, the conversation was too good
[03:18:21.560 --> 03:18:29.200]  Goldsmith says curiously people often claim Marx was focused solely on economics, but his entire worldview was cultural based on envy and hate. Yeah
[03:18:30.120 --> 03:18:36.280]  Conflict yeah, they go in dialectic. That's why you know, we can we have to look at the different ways that they divide us
[03:18:36.280 --> 03:18:40.440]  You know, it was very explicit what Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn the weather
[03:18:41.080 --> 03:18:43.480]  Weathermen wanted to do they wouldn't have a race war
[03:18:44.880 --> 03:18:50.560]  Marx focused the thing about economics was there but that was really a class struggle, right and
[03:18:52.480 --> 03:18:55.920]  The economics was a part of that class struggle and
[03:18:56.560 --> 03:18:59.800]  But it's always about dividing us and that's why I said, you know
[03:18:59.800 --> 03:19:06.120]  We have to be very careful about the Republican versus Democrat thing any kind of division that they can use like that
[03:19:06.120 --> 03:19:12.040]  And and when we attach ourselves to a different ethnic group or a different political group
[03:19:12.840 --> 03:19:18.760]  These different types of things those attachments draw us away from the principles that can be the bulwark
[03:19:19.440 --> 03:19:22.600]  Against this kind of socialist hell that they want to put us in
[03:19:23.120 --> 03:19:29.640]  Yeah, and mama see 1996 as I never learned so much as when I was homeschooling my kids, that's right
[03:19:29.640 --> 03:19:31.640]  that's right, that's excellent and
[03:19:32.160 --> 03:19:38.200]  That was the thing that really missed about it. That was um, that was where I put all of my effort before I had the show
[03:19:38.480 --> 03:19:43.120]  as a matter of fact, that was at one point it was kind of bothering me because
[03:19:44.280 --> 03:19:48.280]  I was filling in for Alex at the very beginning. He said, you know, there's gonna be millions of people listening to you
[03:19:48.280 --> 03:19:50.280]  I said don't tell me that
[03:19:51.040 --> 03:19:54.160]  Right now but because I was not very much into
[03:19:54.840 --> 03:19:56.840]  public speaking or anything like that and
[03:19:57.120 --> 03:20:02.480]  I said no the way I think of this and that was in his original studio, which was really small and intimate
[03:20:02.480 --> 03:20:06.120]  I said the way I think of this is I'm talking to the guys over there running the board
[03:20:06.120 --> 03:20:10.440]  I could see them and I said I'm just thinking like I'm doing homeschooling with my kids
[03:20:10.720 --> 03:20:15.320]  So I said don't talk to me about millions of people listening to that'll freeze me up
[03:20:15.360 --> 03:20:19.840]  So that's the way I always looked at it and it was such a wonderful thing because
[03:20:20.640 --> 03:20:28.160]  gave us an opportunity to go back and look at content that was compelled on us in the schools and
[03:20:28.640 --> 03:20:29.840]  to
[03:20:29.840 --> 03:20:31.840]  to view it in a different way and
[03:20:32.280 --> 03:20:34.280]  That's one of the things I've always said about
[03:20:35.200 --> 03:20:42.240]  Biology and evolution, you know what it's taught to us in the schools. It was always dumbed down into skeletons and death, right?
[03:20:42.840 --> 03:20:44.840]  for the evolutionists death
[03:20:45.560 --> 03:20:48.760]  Is the thing the engine of creation for us?
[03:20:48.760 --> 03:20:54.640]  It is the giver of life and we didn't look at comparative anatomy of skeletons
[03:20:54.640 --> 03:21:00.480]  We looked at the unique design of each and every animal and that was a thing that was so fascinating
[03:21:00.560 --> 03:21:03.680]  So it really is a blessing and an opportunity
[03:21:03.680 --> 03:21:07.080]  I hope if you have the opportunity you take that to homeschool your kids. Have a good day
[03:21:07.080 --> 03:21:08.960]  Thank you take a photo on a phone
[03:21:08.960 --> 03:21:10.960]  There is machine learning in the background
[03:21:11.000 --> 03:21:15.060]  Highest quality video capture ever in a smartphone in the metaverse
[03:21:15.280 --> 03:21:22.720]  We're going to need AI that is builder on helping people navigate virtual worlds as well as our physical world with augmented reality
[03:21:23.400 --> 03:21:26.280]  Augmented reality is a profound technology
[03:21:26.800 --> 03:21:33.960]  Includes like your position in 3d space your your body language facial gestures and we invented new intimate ways
[03:21:34.680 --> 03:21:36.760]  to connect and communicate
[03:21:37.720 --> 03:21:39.680]  directly from your wrist
[03:21:39.720 --> 03:21:47.320]  Everything from virtual reality to designing our own data centers describing what's coming even it's just so different and new I've been in this
[03:21:47.480 --> 03:21:50.680]  Infrastructure business for you know, three decades. No one has ever seen it
[03:21:52.080 --> 03:21:57.240]  Now I expect that these trends will only increase in the future in the last few months
[03:21:57.680 --> 03:22:03.400]  We launched voice and vision capabilities so that chat GPT can now see hear and speak
[03:22:03.400 --> 03:22:10.640]  What's up to a hundred and twenty eight thousand tokens of context that's three hundred pages of a standard book, that's all AI generated
[03:22:10.640 --> 03:22:14.880]  That's 300 pages of a standard book. That's all AI generated
[03:22:16.080 --> 03:22:18.720]  Actually, let's add in some alto cumulus class
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